The devs behind StarSim: Mining Conglomerate are a full fledged (albeit small) dev studio of about a dozen developers. They said in their Discord that they have a patch already sent to Bethesda and are waiting on them to approve it. They also confirmed what you said in the video: they have no control over pricing once released and Bethesda has full control of all paid mods after release as well as whether or not they go on sale. Another thing I thought I'd mention is that rhey predict most of the promised features to be implemented by either two or so months and that once finished they plan on continuing StarSim into another creation involving salvaging and manufacturing ships. This is just the first of a 5 part series to massively transform Starfield.
That's great to hear. It's a great mod even in its current state, adding an amazing gameplay loop with the mining. Those coming features will make it a phenomenonal mod
@@superandy2k13 you can use it on an existing save. I did when I first bought it. However, according to the devs, you might not be so lucky as people have also reported the stations not loading in properly on existing saves. It's worth a shot though, certainly. Some future features may require a new game, though, but they'd be sure to let people know this when they come.
@@joeswanson3058A workaround for the station not appearing would be to go to New Game Plus instead of just starting a new game, you'd lose a lot less progress that way then just starting a new game
The main problem that I have found with the way Bethesda deals with paid mods/creations even in the past is that the mods released didn't really have enough substance or were not really fleshed out or had no voice acting and they were asking for too much for the price. If they were promoting big weapon/armor packs , spells/power packages, big meaningful questlines, ship building and settlement building packages or new systems people actually want to see added to the game that were seamlessly integrated into the world and they were charging reasonable prices for, I don't think it would be as big of a problem. I personally think that $7 for a single quest is still a bit of a rip, but something like StarSim for $5, that actually adds new features and that looks like the dev is going to be updating it with even further features and fleshing it out for said $5 is a lot better value for money. I'm sure the mod author who worked on The Vulture quest creation and voice actors involved put in a lot of hard work for it, but I feel it should have been more of a bounty quest package with a bunch of quests for the new Tracker Alliance and not just a single one.
@@alien0gamer139 If it's the only mod you ever purchase, and you didn't get 1000 credits along with buying the upcoming DLC. IRL it's 700 credits, not dollars, and there are multiple ways to obtain 700+ credits. And I agree that 700 credits for the Vulture bounty is too high all by itself. I think it was a bad decision to price it above 250-500 credits.
This mod looks cool and very much like Elite Dangerous when it first released, but this mod does need just alittle more to it before I get it and I do want it.
@@mediabrandslife - I doubt it will be necessary I'm sure they'll do it themselves but it takes time to create the interiors (multiple stations after all) and populate. They'll probably going to at least need to do some voicing of some NPC's, it's going to take a bit.
@@NetraAmorosi I hear yeah but it doesn’t take that long really I’m a game developer and if you know how to code your game or games and general you can create scripts and make any game your heart desires cheers.
This mod seems very inspired by Egosoft's X3 or X4, maybe more the later. Also, as a verified and charging Creation Club content creator, I believe this dev group has an agreement with BGS to keep this up to date.
The road map helps a lot on selling this one over any other creation To answer why I think they will keep there promises is the paid creation is all about reputation if your reps im going to promises something and not deliver people will find out and look elsewhere. each paid mod is a long-term investment on a moder end they only get paid if someone pays for the mod
I had two of the mods, one mod was the new companion npc, she required me to buy a drink from a bar in the Well - I was a lowly level character with no money and then I went to protect the Argos station against Spacers and got well enough to get the drink and companion who I will use to help out further with the StarSim Mining stuff and bounties from the non-paid side of the Tracker's Alliance.
I'm going to hold off until the mod is feature complete. The idea is amazing and I am totally on board with it. I'm just of the opinion that I am already playing one paid beta. I'm not interested in another one right now.
Thanks for the video. thanks to the devs for their hard work. Got couple other modders i' wanna support its cool add on but wont buy this for now. Will definately buy this if they include fleshed out space ship interiors.
I’ve seen a mod called Starvival that looks interesting. It has a main download and a few add ones, one which affects ships such as fuel usage. Would be interested on your thoughts.
I like it, but it will be much more useful when they add those coming features. I can see using it for resource gathering role play and bounty hunter/mercenaries. I am about mid-game and ready to push through the major quests and main quest in my current play-through. I wish I had it earlier. It will be quite useful to me whenever they add the ability to scan asteroids for what resources it contain.
By the way. If anyone has noticed the cargo at 11:35 below the space station. I have encountered these when picking up materials/ destroyed enemy ships and they appear not far from you to pick them up. And it’s worse at the key because there so many of them it causes slow down. And if I move too fast at any direction it will freeze up. It’s a great mod but it definitely has some problems.
I’m divided as there are great payed mods, but others that aren’t so amazing. But it would be nice to see them reduce the restrictions so we can still get achievements on our games. I noticed that only Bethesda mods are allowed while the verified ones aren’t… that’s rather disappointing considering you would be paying for them.
I think you need to do 25 missions to get to a point to manage a station or something, just something I saw looking via the CK while tweaking reward money for myself. As for actually being able to go on the space stations that'll probably take some time to do, as they need to make and populate the interior of multiple space stations.
the only thing that i feel really missing from this is options to mine things.. like update mining lasers has been a big part of what i want for a long time.. like minecraft where i can mine faster or longer. or have a perk of getting more resorces from what i'm mining... it be fun to use a Old Earth pickaxe to gather some things or a old earth sludgehammer.
The ships look like the Silent Runner / Star Semi (colours look closer to the first one though), wonder if they will be getting replaced by the new ships as time progresses Also noticed on the description that you either need to start a new game or go to NG+ to “activate” the POIs from this, unless that’s been updated already
@@CrimsonFlyboy On the other end you would hear people complain why is this game 500gb or whatever. I am just glad modders are adding things, It is the reason I am getting this game.
Yep, but sadly internet neckbeards love crying on the internet 24/7 and be part of a hate group because they have no friends on the internet It's so pathetic
The price won't increase. The mods will worth more than 5. You buy now if you want to support the author and want to take a peak of what is already there.
(Sarcasm on) Of course Bethesda should have offered the Vultur mod for free. After all, developers, translators and dubbers don't need to be paid. They're rich enough as it is. Tomorrow, if my boss asks me to work for free to please consumers, I'll say yes and even work overtime. I'm hoping their next game will be delivered straight to my house by a supermodel on a silver platter, who'll give me a big smile when I open the door. Come on Bethesda, make an effort (Sarcasm off).
Ye, 100%. Bethesda once again with the nickel-and-diming. And the thing that bugs me the most is that it's not just paid directly, but it's via their in-game store points system. So that 700 point mod you might have interest in? Well, sorry. That'll be 10 bucks and get that 1000 points one, because we don't do just 700 points. The fact that these awful store point mechanics have not yet been banned in certain countries is just baffling
This video is about a mining overhaul by a mod team. It's nothing to do with bethesda. If your talking about bethesda specific paid mods I don't disagree, but your commenting on the wrong video
@@CrimsonFlyboy fair enough. Some of the mods on there are well worth it. However, if you are already on the cusp of a bad reputation, paid mods isn't the way to repair it. If so, make the items/missions available for free in game like Warframe does. You can farm anything in the game OR you can pay for it if you don't want to farm for it. There is a way to do it that doesn't look like a blatant money grab.
You can play on your current save, you just need to git it a few minutes to full install. It will give you two notifications, one when it's first installed, and another when it's done
If you're after the space station management mini game I'd hold off on purchasing it till your ready to go through unity. But if your content with the asteroid mining and bounty board missions. I'd grab it
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The devs behind StarSim: Mining Conglomerate are a full fledged (albeit small) dev studio of about a dozen developers. They said in their Discord that they have a patch already sent to Bethesda and are waiting on them to approve it. They also confirmed what you said in the video: they have no control over pricing once released and Bethesda has full control of all paid mods after release as well as whether or not they go on sale.
Another thing I thought I'd mention is that rhey predict most of the promised features to be implemented by either two or so months and that once finished they plan on continuing StarSim into another creation involving salvaging and manufacturing ships. This is just the first of a 5 part series to massively transform Starfield.
That's great to hear. It's a great mod even in its current state, adding an amazing gameplay loop with the mining. Those coming features will make it a phenomenonal mod
If I download this can I continue on my current save or do I have to start over at level one? Thank you in advance!
@@superandy2k13 you can use it on an existing save. I did when I first bought it. However, according to the devs, you might not be so lucky as people have also reported the stations not loading in properly on existing saves. It's worth a shot though, certainly. Some future features may require a new game, though, but they'd be sure to let people know this when they come.
@@joeswanson3058A workaround for the station not appearing would be to go to New Game Plus instead of just starting a new game, you'd lose a lot less progress that way then just starting a new game
the pricing of everything on the creation shop make a lot more sense knowing Bethesda determines pricing.
The main problem that I have found with the way Bethesda deals with paid mods/creations even in the past is that the mods released didn't really have enough substance or were not really fleshed out or had no voice acting and they were asking for too much for the price. If they were promoting big weapon/armor packs , spells/power packages, big meaningful questlines, ship building and settlement building packages or new systems people actually want to see added to the game that were seamlessly integrated into the world and they were charging reasonable prices for, I don't think it would be as big of a problem. I personally think that $7 for a single quest is still a bit of a rip, but something like StarSim for $5, that actually adds new features and that looks like the dev is going to be updating it with even further features and fleshing it out for said $5 is a lot better value for money.
I'm sure the mod author who worked on The Vulture quest creation and voice actors involved put in a lot of hard work for it, but I feel it should have been more of a bounty quest package with a bunch of quests for the new Tracker Alliance and not just a single one.
For 5$ this mod is definitely a lot more worth it with all it's feature compared to the 7$ Vulture mod from Bethesda
$5 too dear
Well "7$" you gotta buy 10$ worth of points to get it, so it's not really 7$
@@alien0gamer139 If it's the only mod you ever purchase, and you didn't get 1000 credits along with buying the upcoming DLC. IRL it's 700 credits, not dollars, and there are multiple ways to obtain 700+ credits.
And I agree that 700 credits for the Vulture bounty is too high all by itself. I think it was a bad decision to price it above 250-500 credits.
@@martyk656 It's 10$ dollars at the bare minimum, unless you wasted your money on the better editions
@@martyk656 it should be F’ing free mate, it’s just a quest like hundreds of others in the game, monetising it is just greed
This mod looks cool and very much like Elite Dangerous when it first released, but this mod does need just alittle more to it before I get it and I do want it.
A bit disappointing that you can’t enter the stations but as a means to get minerals without having to setup and manage outposts is a large bonus.
I believe since the creation kit is out someone will add it to the game very soon.
@@mediabrandslife - I doubt it will be necessary I'm sure they'll do it themselves but it takes time to create the interiors (multiple stations after all) and populate. They'll probably going to at least need to do some voicing of some NPC's, it's going to take a bit.
@@NetraAmorosi I hear yeah but it doesn’t take that long really I’m a game developer and if you know how to code your game or games and general you can create scripts and make any game your heart desires cheers.
They will add it later on
There's already a nod that adds space stations you can board
Mods bork your save by editing too much script, after a while you'll get loading time of about 5 to 20 minutes for initial launch.
This mod seems very inspired by Egosoft's X3 or X4, maybe more the later. Also, as a verified and charging Creation Club content creator, I believe this dev group has an agreement with BGS to keep this up to date.
The road map helps a lot on selling this one over any other creation
To answer why I think they will keep there promises is the paid creation is all about reputation if your reps im going to promises something and not deliver people will find out and look elsewhere. each paid mod is a long-term investment on a moder end they only get paid if someone pays for the mod
It's like Asteroids (1979) the Atari arcade game on steroids.
on a-steroids even
I had two of the mods, one mod was the new companion npc, she required me to buy a drink from a bar in the Well - I was a lowly level character with no money and then I went to protect the Argos station against Spacers and got well enough to get the drink and companion who I will use to help out further with the StarSim Mining stuff and bounties from the non-paid side of the Tracker's Alliance.
I'm going to hold off until the mod is feature complete. The idea is amazing and I am totally on board with it. I'm just of the opinion that I am already playing one paid beta. I'm not interested in another one right now.
Thanks for the video. thanks to the devs for their hard work. Got couple other modders i' wanna support its cool add on but wont buy this for now. Will definately buy this if they include fleshed out space ship interiors.
I’ve seen a mod called Starvival that looks interesting. It has a main download and a few add ones, one which affects ships such as fuel usage. Would be interested on your thoughts.
Lolol I remember having that 3D map table idea and bringing it up in the discord MONTHS ago Wykkyd and I had a short discussion about it.
Probably my favourite Creation as of right now, this one actually feels like it’s worth the money you pay and might even be upgraded in the future
I like it, but it will be much more useful when they add those coming features. I can see using it for resource gathering role play and bounty hunter/mercenaries.
I am about mid-game and ready to push through the major quests and main quest in my current play-through. I wish I had it earlier.
It will be quite useful to me whenever they add the ability to scan asteroids for what resources it contain.
By the way. If anyone has noticed the cargo at 11:35 below the space station. I have encountered these when picking up materials/ destroyed enemy ships and they appear not far from you to pick them up. And it’s worse at the key because there so many of them it causes slow down. And if I move too fast at any direction it will freeze up. It’s a great mod but it definitely has some problems.
I’m divided as there are great payed mods, but others that aren’t so amazing. But it would be nice to see them reduce the restrictions so we can still get achievements on our games. I noticed that only Bethesda mods are allowed while the verified ones aren’t… that’s rather disappointing considering you would be paying for them.
I think you need to do 25 missions to get to a point to manage a station or something, just something I saw looking via the CK while tweaking reward money for myself. As for actually being able to go on the space stations that'll probably take some time to do, as they need to make and populate the interior of multiple space stations.
Thanks. Looks like this will be worth getting for me. Hopefully the modder will keep working on it.
Yeah, it's a great base with the mining, but those additions they are planning would make it so much more
the only thing that i feel really missing from this is options to mine things.. like update mining lasers has been a big part of what i want for a long time.. like minecraft where i can mine faster or longer. or have a perk of getting more resorces from what i'm mining... it be fun to use a Old Earth pickaxe to gather some things or a old earth sludgehammer.
The ships look like the Silent Runner / Star Semi (colours look closer to the first one though), wonder if they will be getting replaced by the new ships as time progresses
Also noticed on the description that you either need to start a new game or go to NG+ to “activate” the POIs from this, unless that’s been updated already
SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD EASLY BE IN GAME ALREADY, JS
You could spend all day listing things that should/could be in the game, and you'd end up with a game that would never release
@@CrimsonFlyboy On the other end you would hear people complain why is this game 500gb or whatever. I am just glad modders are adding things, It is the reason I am getting this game.
I love the look of that ship, have you done a video on it?
not yet, im still tweaking it and decorating the interior
never pay for mods because it gives them precedent to monetize all mods and ruin modding forever if you wanna give devs money donate instead
Looks good, but locking mods behind paywalls at Creation Club only, it's kind of wild move.
Coffee time! Excellent synopsis, thanks for posting this series.
Since its optional, it is worth it for people who want to buy it. Like in any other store.
These wars against payed mods is a joke.
I wouldn't go so far to call it a war. I'm just reviewing them and giving my opinion on whether they are worth the money or not
Yep, but sadly internet neckbeards love crying on the internet 24/7 and be part of a hate group because they have no friends on the internet
It's so pathetic
No considering it was a free mod do8ng that
I play this and love it best mod out there
The price won't increase. The mods will worth more than 5. You buy now if you want to support the author and want to take a peak of what is already there.
Mine freezes up every other time I enter the argos. Tried deleting and reordering. Still doesn’t function properly ☹️
Did you try going to venus when you install, wait 24 hours on the planet, then save and reload that save
I'll hold on for awhile- then maybe
Thanks for this. Very informative
When i try to do the protection missions the enemies wont spawn no matter what i try
Its broken
What do you mean by it's broken
is your ship custom built?
It is, I'll have a video up showcasing it next week
Can you review the Nomad armor and weapons mod?
I'll have to wait until it gets added to the creation tab, as I only rewllt review mods that csn be gotten on xbox and pc
I’m pretty sure it is on Xbox
Your ship looks sick
Thank you
(Sarcasm on) Of course Bethesda should have offered the Vultur mod for free. After all, developers, translators and dubbers don't need to be paid. They're rich enough as it is. Tomorrow, if my boss asks me to work for free to please consumers, I'll say yes and even work overtime. I'm hoping their next game will be delivered straight to my house by a supermodel on a silver platter, who'll give me a big smile when I open the door. Come on Bethesda, make an effort (Sarcasm off).
horse armor 3.0. Hard pass
This isn't horse armour, it's not made by bethesda. It's made by a mod team
Ye, 100%. Bethesda once again with the nickel-and-diming.
And the thing that bugs me the most is that it's not just paid directly, but it's via their in-game store points system.
So that 700 point mod you might have interest in? Well, sorry. That'll be 10 bucks and get that 1000 points one, because we don't do just 700 points.
The fact that these awful store point mechanics have not yet been banned in certain countries is just baffling
This video is about a mining overhaul by a mod team. It's nothing to do with bethesda. If your talking about bethesda specific paid mods I don't disagree, but your commenting on the wrong video
Paid mods are never worth it.
I dont think that's always the case, as some paid mods act as psuedo dlcs
@@CrimsonFlyboy fair enough. Some of the mods on there are well worth it. However, if you are already on the cusp of a bad reputation, paid mods isn't the way to repair it. If so, make the items/missions available for free in game like Warframe does. You can farm anything in the game OR you can pay for it if you don't want to farm for it. There is a way to do it that doesn't look like a blatant money grab.
I will figure out a way to pirate paid mods
Bought this mod day one.
If I download this can I continue on my current save or do I have to start over at level one? Thank you in advance!
You can play on your current save, you just need to git it a few minutes to full install. It will give you two notifications, one when it's first installed, and another when it's done
I heard in other reviews that it needs to be a new game or NG+. Maybe that's why the space station management isn't working for you?
I appreciate both comments. But which one is right? I'm not spending $5 if I can't play the game thank you very much for your answers
If you're after the space station management mini game I'd hold off on purchasing it till your ready to go through unity. But if your content with the asteroid mining and bounty board missions. I'd grab it
That's some good advice. I am far far away from Unity but I'm happy with mining jobs. Thank you very much for answering my questions