Haven't had a chance to test if it holds zero, but mounts just fine and has nice clear glass. Centered vertically true to a plumb line with the crosshairs which is always a plus!It's a great th-cam.com/users/postUgkxc4K63Fd5LglDMObu7-Bgapxp_ef0W8hE scope. There's no parallax adjustment or focus ring, so may be limited to 3-7x, have to see how it is on the range. Also be aware that the rings are "look through" so you can still use irons, but they are really tall if you only intend to use the optics. On a 22LR no biggie since I'm not shooting competitions or worried about a hard cheek press. Will boresight and range test, if all goes well, I'll leave it at that!
Thanks for the review. I was really looking out for one. (and you beat Russ and Bruce to it) I already bought one last week, but after my first try out I was a little put-off that the reticle wasn't in the middle after zeroing. Like you said "two shims in the back" is most of the time nessisairy. And so it was with mine.. and now it is perfect!! Same for the ballistic calculator. YESYESYES It works perfectly! I had different targets set out at random distances, en everytime (after LRF-ing) the .22 pellet was spot-on in the middle! ..almost boring.. Make sure that all the required numbers are filled in (weight, BC etc) and the Pard does the rest. I'm happy with my purchase, but there are a couple of things I do not like very much. ..the rubber eye-piece is a little too sturdy, and doesn't give me a good view on the screen. (my big nose is in the way) So maybe when I have the guts to do it.. I'll remove it eventually. Second thing; ..when focussing all the way left or right.. the focusring gets a little stuck. Maybe it will loosen eventually by using?! ..but also it gets blocked by either the IR on the left,or the rail on the right. ..or anyway.. it feels like so for me. I dont know how it is for you guys in the UK, but I bought mine with a 940nm IR on board, 'stead of the normal 850nm ..wich I find that the rats really CAN see!! ...but not so for 940nm. With that you are truly invisible.! I bought mine from JL-vision in the Netherlands for €995,00 incl tax.. and yes.. they do speak English Furthermore I found a difference between the LRF and a real 30 mtr measure thing. (dont know the name in English) They where not the same... But who cares what the real distance is.. as long as it works and the pellets land perfectly ..right?! All in all ...I am truly happy with my Pard nv008s LRF in 940nm. Go get yourself one before they get sold out. Grtz. Theo
Thank you Richard for the info. just one thing, everyone says that you need to put the shims on the rear of the scope. Well I did that. But on my FX crown I had to put them on the front of the scope. Just something to think about. The scope sits 52 and a half mm from center of the scope to center of the barrel. The Pard NV008s LRF is an outstand product. Thank you.
So helpful Richard thank you. Just ordered one of these as an alternative to NV and LRF add-ons. As you mentioned I was one that was a bit concerned about the need to shim or buy extra mounts but all seems simple now.
Thanks for this, was trying to find out about this ballistics calculator. This has made it so much easier, many thanks for this review, it was most helpful 👍
Laser is there for UK as well,all you need is take off front and back screws and plug in disconnected little two wires cable into the socket(only one is free to connect),long press activate red laser and again long press to deactivate.You're welcome
@@bobbytheboy1 I think it's more a case of different standard Bob. As I understand it, there was doubt as to whether the laser was compliant with UK regulations. To play safe the laser was disabled. I don't see why you'd need one anyway.
@@airgunextra You're probably right Richard,if so, it shouldn't be there to begin with,ready to plug and play.Can it be useful,not for most of as but from reselling point of view could be.
Thanks Alpha Militaria . I can figure out a little bit on how to use Rangefinder and ballistic calculator, hope u make another video about PARD NV008sLRF , I just made an order for this PARD from China , It was difficult to buy between ATN and PARD . After learning , Comparing , Reviewing from Expert on TH-cam make me go for PARD > both products are made from China
Thanks this was just what i needed to know, it seems the calculator is doing it's job quite nicely till 50M and it gets my interest all above 70M yet it is still off a little and the cross hair does not have any distance (drop) markings so it is not going to do the job for 100 till 200M very well, a decent scoop has these drop markings but then you need to know the distance adding the need of a distance meter ... i still prefer the old school way or i might look at some other higher end , this one is OK till 50M if you ask me.
Nice vid as always. I have a Hw100k, Pard008 on top, with a Boblov strapped to the side. Rectical A set at 20yards, B set at 25yards ect out to 40 yards. Daystate sounds strange, twangy, is it ok ? Those groups are ok, but not that tight.
Thanks Stephen. The microphone tends to pick up sounds you wouldn't ordinarily notice. And regarding groups, I was looking to show the difference the ballistic calculator makes rather than do an accuracy test. Thanks for watching.
@@airgunextra I’m in Kent bud. I’m pretty convinced anyhow. Just going to wait until month end as I’ve gone full bore “wolf of wall street” this month (less the narcotics). The missus can’t wait for the scope though. I told her earlier and she can barely contain herself 😆
Why is it on the 40m 12ftp target to the left with the componsater on when you go to the target by the magic of editing black tape appears to cover the first low shot you did? Plus does that daystate sound right to you it seems to have a lot of hammer bounce several times that I haven't heard on and other videos I have watch on this rifle?
Hi Robert. I really don’t know. Probably I had to put some more tape on the board to stop it flapping about. I’m afraid our continuity editor had the day off. Re the rifle noise, I think that is down to having a sensitive microphone pointed at the rifle as it doesn’t make that sound in ‘real life’. I hope that helps and that you found the video helpful.
@@richsaunders6515 Hi Richard I wasn't sure about the sound it seamed very strange for a daystate to make that noise. Thanks for the reply pal great videos 👍 keep them coming pal stay safe.
Very comprehensive review as usual, Richard. I'm really interested in using the recoil-activated video recording feature. Could you confirm whether my FX Maverick will have sufficient recoil to activate this feature? Regards. Mike
Hi. To be honest I've never even bothered using this feature as I've always assumed that a PCP would not have sufficient recoil to activate the record function. I'll give it a try though and let you know...
Great review as always Richard, would there be any chance you could do a review of the new 007 v also? cheers again for your time to review all these toys.
Hi I have been watching your posts and I'm amazed what knowledge you have with guns and sights I have a pard NV008S-LRF and I'm trying to input the BC and I'm totally lost I'm using. 177 JCB diablo exact heavy and my Velocity is 219.2 m/s can you please help me with the figures to put in the chart many thanks john
Hi John. Thanks very much. What weight are the JSB Heavies you're using? Are they 8.26 grain? You velocity is 719 feet per second. If you can confirm pellet weight I'll get back to you re the BC.
@Alpha Militaria I've got 0,670g /10,34gr Then 4.5mm M47/08 But when itry to put Bullet wt/gr it won't let me put anything over .10 below the decimal point it goes to 1.0 and it goes after high as 500.0
It should due to it having a gyro inside. It should take angles into account. However it does not take the can’t into the equation. Needs to be level for the calculator to be spot on
Thanks. I think it's fair to say that in my regards it is similar to the old NV008LRF model - which I really rate (and use) by the way - but with the added benefit of the ballistic calculator. There are some neat design improvements too like the focus ring throw lever for example. Currently using mine on a 12 ft lbs .22 Delta Wolf. Zeroed at 30m, I use it to shoot rats from 12m. (Great film btw!)
@@airgunextra thanks for the reply,I do also have the pard 008,also find kinda strange the the pards 008 are similar in price to the newer version..I haven't checked side by side comparisons yet,but am thinking of buying this but still keeping the old pard..again excellent reviews fella.
Hi good review thanks a question if you shim the scope does that throw the ballistic calculator off slightly as the scope is not parallel to the barrel
Yo Paul, after shimming you re-zero the Pard anyway.. so it has nothing to do with parallel or not. Only if the reticle is zero'd. So no! you can shim-away.. with no problems. (I just did it myself today) grtz Theo
I believe the method of attaching changed and they are a little more permanent now so you have to make a decision as to whether you want the eye cup attached...or not. I prefer to remove mine which, as a glasses wearer, I find much better.
Hi Richard, I have the exactly same hardware set-up in .22 as you in this video. but could you please tell me which pellet you are using and what settings have to programmed into your pard nv800s lrf ballistic calculator for this please as when i use the ballistic calculator the pellet don't hit where the ballistic calculator tells me to aim. If you could please help ?🙏
Hi Peter. I believe I was using Air Arms Diabolo Field in the Delta Wolf and JSB King Heavy mk2 in the .25. I have been fiddling around with a few scopes that have a ballistic calculator function and thought I'd pass on two main learnings: 1. If you've zeroed your rifle and then find the groups are higher/lower at longer distance when you use the ballistic calculator, try adjusting the setting for feet per second. This will alter the impact point at those longer distances. If your groups are going high, then drop the FPS down. If they are going low then increase the FPS. Its a bit of trial and error, but once your group is on with the BC at a longer distance you should find it more accurate at other distances. Just check that your zero is still on. 2. If you find that your groups with the BC at longer distance are left or right, then re-adjust your reticle accordingly so that you are aiming and hitting the impact point. I've found that what appears to be a good zero at say 30 metres could in fact me out by a quarter or eighth of inch. When you add another 30 metres on top of that, that quarter or eighth of an inch turns into two or three inches. Again, just make sure your original zero still works. I hope that makes sense and is helpful. Good luck!
Thanks very much. Yes indeed. Take your time to set the profile up properly and spend some time on the range to fine tune and hold over is a thing of the past!
I use the same PARD 008SLRF scope as you, how do I set the "ScopeHt" value on the ballistic calculator? The default ScopeHt(mm)=70.10, what should this value be set to on FX Impact M3? Thanks!
Hi Ashwa. I simply measure the approximate distance between the middle of the barrel to the middle of the scope in mm with a ruler/tape measure. In the video I said that its worth fine tuning the set up once you've put a few shots through to ensure the ballistic calculator is working accurately for your set up. Playing around with the value you enter for scope height is one of the things you can adjust along with the other settings. At the end of the say, time spent on the range to ensure you have everything set up just right is the only way forward in my opinion. I hope that helps.
Hi Richard great review as ever. One question I may have missed this in the review, but does this product still have the 5 profiles as per the pard oo8 ? Thanks Garry.
Hi Gary. Sorry for the delay in responding. I believe the answer is 'yes'. I'll double check when I get the rifle out again and will let you know if any different.
Hi Richard, I have a question for you about the rubber eyepiece. I notised that you removed it before testshooting, and also in the previous vids about the old 008p. Was it a easy operation? ...I guess it's glued on.. true? I want to remove it also, but I guess I'm a little cowardly sinds it costs so much.. and I'm afrayd I won't be able to put it back on.. should I regret it later on. Right now I struggle to align my eyes to the screen to see all the info on it. And also compared to the rubber of the 008P, the new one seems even thicker and sturdier thus blocking a clear view. And another thing that's holding me back is that maybe the light radiating from the screen, might lit up my face in the dark and spook the rats. I'm really curious about your thoughts on this, and especially how you went about to remove the rubber eyepiece. Thanks in advance! ..I realy enjoy your extended-in-dept revieuws. grtz. Theo
Hi Theo. Thanks very much, I'm glad you like our vids. Personally I find the scope much easier to use without the eye cup and I get a much better picture. The eyecup is attached...a bit. Having removed it I can still put it on again as there is a small recess around the ocular lens. However, as I know I prefer to use the Pard without the cup I'm not too both about putting it back on again. I wouldn't worry too much about eye shine - I've not found it an issue with either rats or rabbits. However, you can turn the brightness down on the settings, or wear a face mask if you are concerned. Thanks again, Rich.
@@airgunextra I also really enjoy your videos - they've been a great help to a novice airgunner! I also get a better view of the screen without the eyecup, but in certain lights outdoors I've found the scope almost impossible to use without it. As you say it's easy enough to put back on if necessary ...so long as you get it off in one piece! Mine was pretty securely glued on, but came off OK with a bit of care.
That was a great review Richard. Going to fit one on a 22 rim fire that only has a 11mm dove tail. What would you suggest make of waver rail to fit as I here the snap on ones leave a lot to be desire. Also is there a max GB of micro card recommended.
Hi Joseph. I'd recommend a dovetail to Picatinny rail rather than go with the clip on converters. Optics Warehouse sell a reasonably priced universal adapter that should do the trickwww.opticswarehouse.co.uk/utg-universal-dovetail-to-picatinny-weaver-rail-adaptor With regards to the mx GB, I'm not sure. I've been using a 32 in mine without issue and it's got hundreds of shots on it so far! Thanks for watching.
Morning Joseph, I'm using a 128GB MicroSD card in my new Pard008S-LRF as standard, just as I did for my older (pre-P) Pard008-LRF and it works nicely. Pards record at approx' 100MB/minute so a 32GB card stores approx' 5 hours of video footage. Hope this helps, loads of 008S-LRF reviews coming soon to my channel, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 Hey Russ, I'm still waiting (longing, craving etc) for your in-dept nitty-gritty review. And when you get to it, see if you can find out how to move the LRF-cursor more to the middle of the reticle if you want?! ...your humble follower. grtz Theo
@@oo-lp1wb Thanks for your patience Theo, I'm working on it. But (as I commented here two days ago for everyone's information, though sadly my comment was deleted 🤷🏻♂️🤨) -Pard have already updated the 008S-LRF firmware at least once since release. Mine does display the BC aiming point on recordings (though at shorter ranges there are still some inaccuracies), and @SportsmanGunCentre have just informed me another update in already available. 👏 I'm confident this awesome compact scope's ballistic calculator will very shortly be working perfectly at all ranges. 🤞🎯 Thanks for your patience, cheers. Russ
Hi. There are two versions - the NV008S does not have a range finder or ballistic calculator. The NV008S LRF is the model with the range finder and ballistic calculator. The previous model (NV008P LRF) also had a range finder but no ballistic calculator. The range finder works by with a quick press on a button and the ballistic calculator works with another quick press of the same button which marks your revised aim point on the reticle. I hope that helps.
Hi Richard, happy subscriber here from WA state and new to the PCP fun. Just received an FX Wildcat BT and am looking for an available NV008S LRF. Two easy questions: which scope mount are you using in the vid, and how much more desirable is the -008S than the -008P? I ask because the 'P' is available here stateside but the 'S' is rarer than an intelligible Biden sentence.
Hi. Thanks for subscribing. I love WA - spent a lot of time in Redmond and Bellevue for work... The good news is that the Pard NV008 comes with a mount and will go straight onto your Wildcat without the need to buy any kind of additional mount. The main difference between the S and P models is in the LRF (laser range finder) models of both. The S LRF has a ballistic calculator mode whereas the P LRF does not. If you're not bothered about having a range finder/ballistic calculator function, then the non LRF versions of the S and P are pretty much the same. I have both the NV008P LRF and the NV008S LRF models. Other than the ballistic calculator function they are the same in terms of optical performance and features. I hope that makes sense (at least more than if Biden explained it!).
Good review, would be interesting doing the same test with a .177 sub 12ftlbs rifle zeroed at 30yds and then use ballistic calculator 40,50 and 55 yards
(Re-typing this as Richard assures me his trio didn't delete it)... Thanks for the informative video Richard, good to see the 008S in use at longer ranges (I've concentrated at
@@airgunextra Thanks very much Richard. Hmm sounds like yours is running Feb's firmware, so you could leapfrog the March update and get the newest one installed. Did you see my post on the Airgun forum Pard008S-LRF thread, with an annotated screenshot explaining how the eyepiece's BC displayed reticle is slightly out at 6m, but the recorded BC reticle is almost spot-on? I think if (in time) they get the BC firmware tip-top and I can get an adjustable-iris sunshade to fit the new Pard (because just like the older Pard, the Wülf 4K and many other digital scopes, bright oncoming/direct sunlight can wash-out the image), I might well also replace my remaining Pard 008-LRF with an 008S-LRF. Just a shame this new wonder-scope's not also 4K... never satisfied are we? 🤣🤣 Cheers. Russ
Yes, as explained in the video, you'll need to enter details relating to your set up - pellet weight, BC, fps, height between middle of the barrel and middle of the objective lens etc...You can save several different profiles.
@@MasonStormSunny Hi. Have you tried one yet? I did with a range of different pellet and slug types and shapes. It worked just fine for me. Don't forget this is zero-eye relief so not appropriate to use on centre-fire rifles that recoil.
@@airgunextra well, there is that rubber piece which distances your eye. 008S was designed for centerfire rifles. This is why the IR and RF in on the left side of the scope so that it does not colide with the action of the rifle during reloading.
I think you might be confusing the scope with the video camera at 21:00. You do realise that I walked up to the target with the video camera at 21:00 and its not footage through the scope right?
@@airgunextra Yes, I knew you walked up to the target. My question no scope has the power of it (21:00). Unless I am using my uncle ATG's Hensoldt scope.
@@angelisone I'm sorry, I don't know what point you are making. The Pard Nv008S has 6.5 and 13x magnification, which is ample for airgun use (you do realise this is an airgun channel right?). That said, I use it on a .17 HMR out to 130 metres without a problem. It's not suitable for recoiling rifles. If I'm missing something please let me know. The Pard NV008S is a fantastic product. Have you used one?
Your ballistic calc will not work correctly especially the further you push the distance out to. The scope height measurement needs to be the point of aim (POI) of the scope to centre of barrel at the muzzle NOT the height from objective lens to barrel centre vertical when mounted.
A lot of people who are new to digital scopes struggle with what they perceive to be complexity. Explaining all the features, as well as how to shim (something that's often needed on this scope) and then shooting on the range is going to take time. I could have left a bunch of information out and done it in less time. I am not motivated by views - £0 is made from these videos. Instead all I aim to do is provide what is hopefully a useful and unbiased resource for those who are considering making a purchase. Thanks for watching anyway.
@@airgunextra I think it is a fair question when others got freebies for their review. It speaks to the credibility of the review. If you bought yours that puts your review out in front of the pack. No need to be offended by a simple question. If you let things like that upset you on the Internet you are going to be upset a lot. Thanks for your review, and now I know how much weight to give it. Others haven't earned the respect that you did by your conduct. Regards.
@@rwizard I'm not offended and my skin is plenty thick enough. I just wanted to offer to substantiate what could have been an empty statement. I don't own every single product I review, but I'm only ever loaned them and not gifted them - they all go back. Hopefully my reviews are warts 'n all regardless of how I obtain the product as there is no financial consideration direct or indirect. Thanks for watching.
Hi Jenny. Thanks for your concerns but I do ok thanks very much. I'd love to see one of your videos to see how it should be done. Feel free to post one...
Haven't had a chance to test if it holds zero, but mounts just fine and has nice clear glass. Centered vertically true to a plumb line with the crosshairs which is always a plus!It's a great th-cam.com/users/postUgkxc4K63Fd5LglDMObu7-Bgapxp_ef0W8hE scope. There's no parallax adjustment or focus ring, so may be limited to 3-7x, have to see how it is on the range. Also be aware that the rings are "look through" so you can still use irons, but they are really tall if you only intend to use the optics. On a 22LR no biggie since I'm not shooting competitions or worried about a hard cheek press. Will boresight and range test, if all goes well, I'll leave it at that!
Ideal, thank-you Richard.
Thank you Richard, a more concise demonstration of the 008s lrf ballistic calculator's abilities, one could not ask for.
Thanks Henry. Glad you liked it...
Cracking Review Rich - a product I have been eagerly awaiting!
Thanks Luke...
Thanks Richard, a very comprehensive review with practical demonstration, much appreciated the time you put into these reviews.
Thanks very much Peter...
Mine is on order, just waiting for it! Can’t wait to get started with it!
I'm sure you'll love it!
Can't wait to get my hands on one.
Really good as always just gone and bought one.
Thanks for the review. I was really looking out for one. (and you beat Russ and Bruce to it)
I already bought one last week, but after my first try out I was a little put-off that the reticle wasn't in the middle after zeroing. Like you said "two shims in the back" is most of the time nessisairy. And so it was with mine.. and now it is perfect!! Same for the ballistic calculator.
YESYESYES It works perfectly!
I had different targets set out at random distances, en everytime (after LRF-ing) the .22 pellet was spot-on in the middle! ..almost boring..
Make sure that all the required numbers are filled in (weight, BC etc) and the Pard does the rest.
I'm happy with my purchase, but there are a couple of things I do not like very much. ..the rubber eye-piece is a little too sturdy, and doesn't give me a good view on the screen. (my big nose is in the way) So maybe when I have the guts to do it.. I'll remove it eventually.
Second thing; ..when focussing all the way left or right.. the focusring gets a little stuck.
Maybe it will loosen eventually by using?! ..but also it gets blocked by either the IR on the left,or the rail on the right. ..or anyway.. it feels like so for me.
I dont know how it is for you guys in the UK, but I bought mine with a 940nm IR on board, 'stead of the normal 850nm ..wich I find that the rats really CAN see!!
...but not so for 940nm. With that you are truly invisible.!
I bought mine from JL-vision in the Netherlands for €995,00 incl tax.. and yes.. they do speak English
Furthermore I found a difference between the LRF and a real 30 mtr measure thing. (dont know the name in English) They where not the same...
But who cares what the real distance is.. as long as it works and the pellets land perfectly ..right?!
All in all ...I am truly happy with my Pard nv008s LRF in 940nm. Go get yourself one before they get sold out.
Grtz. Theo
I'm glad you like it and it's been useful...
Just wanted to say a massive thanks for that very informative and clear
Thanks very much Davey. We're glad it was useful. Please let us know if we can help with anything else. You can reach us at hello@alphamilitaria.com
This was just what I was looking for.. Thank you so much..
You're very welcome. Thanks very much for watching.
Thank you Richard for the info. just one thing, everyone says that you need to put the shims on the rear of the scope. Well I did that. But on my FX crown I had to put them on the front of the scope. Just something to think about. The scope sits 52 and a half mm from center of the scope to center of the barrel. The Pard NV008s LRF is an outstand product. Thank you.
Great tip. Thanks Steven...
Really nice Richard, interesting review.
Thanks very much Jan-Bert.
Thank you, very interesting and informative video
Excellent video. I really appreciate your scientific method
Thanks very much David.
Great review of the bit which has changed and so counts. Ordered one as a result of this informative review. Thanks.
NICE vid.....again!!! Greetz from the Netherlands!!!
Thank Jan...
An excellent review
Thanks very much...
So helpful Richard thank you. Just ordered one of these as an alternative to NV and LRF add-ons. As you mentioned I was one that was a bit concerned about the need to shim or buy extra mounts but all seems simple now.
I'm sure you'll love it. Just take your time setting it up...
Are you finding that constant annoying high pitch beeping when the LRF is on as in the previous version of the 008?
Holy hammer bounce, Batman!
Thats impressive !
Thanks Rich as usual.
And also thanks for your time going into the BC some more, I definitely see the benefits you mentioned at the range. 👍
Cheers John. See you tomorrow.
@@airgunextra I wish, sadly not… family stuff, next week for sure.
Great information helped me out no end including were to find co if thanks
You're welcome Andrew. Please let us know if there's anything else we can help with.
Very very helpful ,,, thank you Sir
You're welcome Carlo. Thanks for watching.
wonder if this could be used on a crossbow with some tinkering ?
Thanks for this, was trying to find out about this ballistics calculator. This has made it so much easier, many thanks for this review, it was most helpful 👍
Hi Ady, and thanks. If you're using JSB Jumbo Heavy 18.13gn the BC is 0.035. I hope that helps. hardairmagazine.com/ballistic-coefficients/
@@airgunextra 0.035 GA. What if you shoot slugs which has the BC of 0.07 G1? It simply cannot work good.
Great video with explanation!
Thanks very much for watching.
fantastic and thanks to share it with us
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Laser is there for UK as well,all you need is take off front and back screws and plug in disconnected little two wires cable into the socket(only one is free to connect),long press activate red laser and again long press to deactivate.You're welcome
I wouldn't recommend doing that. It's been disabled for a reason.
@@airgunextra Hello there,could you explain for what reason please
@@airgunextra The answer is;poor trading standards for Brits.We have to paid more for less as usual,how pathetic is that
@@bobbytheboy1 I think it's more a case of different standard Bob. As I understand it, there was doubt as to whether the laser was compliant with UK regulations. To play safe the laser was disabled. I don't see why you'd need one anyway.
@@airgunextra You're probably right Richard,if so, it shouldn't be there to begin with,ready to plug and play.Can it be useful,not for most of as but from reselling point of view could be.
Thanks Alpha Militaria . I can figure out a little bit on how to use Rangefinder and ballistic calculator, hope u make another video about PARD NV008sLRF , I just made an order for this PARD from China , It was difficult to buy between ATN and PARD . After learning , Comparing , Reviewing from Expert on TH-cam make me go for PARD > both products are made from China
Well reviewed Richard,have the P LRF version and love it👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎
Thanks Alan. Great products. Love mine!
Thanks this was just what i needed to know, it seems the calculator is doing it's job quite nicely till 50M and it gets my interest all above 70M yet it is still off a little and the cross hair does not have any distance (drop) markings so it is not going to do the job for 100 till 200M very well, a decent scoop has these drop markings but then you need to know the distance adding the need of a distance meter ... i still prefer the old school way or i might look at some other higher end , this one is OK till 50M if you ask me.
Well explained...
Thanks Robert. And thanks for persevering through all 40 minutes!
@@airgunextra still need plenty of range time to get the best of the system..lik e u said...
Nice vid as always. I have a Hw100k, Pard008 on top, with a Boblov strapped to the side. Rectical A set at 20yards, B set at 25yards ect out to 40 yards. Daystate sounds strange, twangy, is it ok ? Those groups are ok, but not that tight.
Thanks Stephen. The microphone tends to pick up sounds you wouldn't ordinarily notice. And regarding groups, I was looking to show the difference the ballistic calculator makes rather than do an accuracy test. Thanks for watching.
I use one of these scopes out to 300 yards with the onboard IR light just fine
Dammit ! Going to have to buy one of these now
🤣 sorry about that! Please let us know if we can help you with that (alphamilitaria.com).
@@airgunextra sure thing 👍
@@findingneutral426 I'm not sure where you are based, but if you're anywhere near Berkshire and want to try one out please just me know...Rich.
@@airgunextra I’m in Kent bud. I’m pretty convinced anyhow. Just going to wait until month end as I’ve gone full bore “wolf of wall street” this month (less the narcotics).
The missus can’t wait for the scope though. I told her earlier and she can barely contain herself 😆
@@findingneutral426 😂she's a lucky lady! I'm sure you won't be disappointed with the NV008S LRF. The ballistic calculator works a dream...Take care.
Micro SD card not mini, but excellent review. Thanks for your hard work, keep it up.
Micro, mini. Tomayto, tomarto 😂. Thanks very much and thanks for watching.
@@airgunextra 🤣 Perfect spelling there Sir!
Why is it on the 40m 12ftp target to the left with the componsater on when you go to the target by the magic of editing black tape appears to cover the first low shot you did? Plus does that daystate sound right to you it seems to have a lot of hammer bounce several times that I haven't heard on and other videos I have watch on this rifle?
Hi Robert. I really don’t know. Probably I had to put some more tape on the board to stop it flapping about. I’m afraid our continuity editor had the day off. Re the rifle noise, I think that is down to having a sensitive microphone pointed at the rifle as it doesn’t make that sound in ‘real life’. I hope that helps and that you found the video helpful.
@@richsaunders6515 Hi Richard I wasn't sure about the sound it seamed very strange for a daystate to make that noise. Thanks for the reply pal great videos 👍 keep them coming pal stay safe.
Very comprehensive review as usual, Richard. I'm really interested in using the recoil-activated video recording feature. Could you confirm whether my FX Maverick will have sufficient recoil to activate this feature? Regards. Mike
Hi. To be honest I've never even bothered using this feature as I've always assumed that a PCP would not have sufficient recoil to activate the record function. I'll give it a try though and let you know...
Gracias
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
Great review as always Richard, would there be any chance you could do a review of the new 007 v also? cheers again for your time to review all these toys.
Hi Andy - yes, we'll see what we can do on that front. Thanks for watching.
see the irony light on the 940nm right? What about the 850 version? Is the light more visible?
Wanted to see it at night time!!!
Not much I agree, but a little bit of night footage right at the end 39:58
Great as always.can you write the address of the ballistic coefficient site that has the information of all the pellets.tanks
Here's the same website/table I found when setting-up my own Pard008S-LRF:
hardairmagazine.com/ballistic-coefficients/
Cheers. Russ
Hi I have been watching your posts and I'm amazed what knowledge you have with guns and sights I have a pard NV008S-LRF and I'm trying to input the BC and I'm totally lost I'm using. 177 JCB diablo exact heavy and my Velocity is 219.2 m/s can you please help me with the figures to put in the chart many thanks john
Hi John. Thanks very much. What weight are the JSB Heavies you're using? Are they 8.26 grain? You velocity is 719 feet per second. If you can confirm pellet weight I'll get back to you re the BC.
@Alpha Militaria I've got 0,670g /10,34gr
Then 4.5mm
M47/08
But when itry to put Bullet wt/gr it won't let me put anything over .10 below the decimal point it goes to 1.0 and it goes after high as 500.0
My Velocity is 11.8 fps
@@ved4s1 Hi John. Do you want to email me a phone number hello@alphamilitaria.com and I can walk you through it?
@@airgunextra yes that would be great
Does the ballistic calculator also allow for shooting at up or downward angles ?
It should due to it having a gyro inside. It should take angles into account. However it does not take the can’t into the equation. Needs to be level for the calculator to be spot on
Buen dia tiene opinion de este nuevo modelo NEW PARD DS35 70RF gracias.
Thanks very much.
Hi, good work nice video. Should i enter wind speed data to BC or it can run without wind speed data ? What should have to do in windy situation?
Hi. Thanks very much. Unfortunately there's no profile entry for wind speed.
Olá amigo , a minha pard nv008 lrf não está agrupando os disparos , e o retículo ao regular vem muito para a esquerda ,
Hi there. They can be tricky. You might need an adjustable mount like the one from Eagle Vision will solve the problem.
Is it really a good upgrade from the 008?...Great review.
Thanks. I think it's fair to say that in my regards it is similar to the old NV008LRF model - which I really rate (and use) by the way - but with the added benefit of the ballistic calculator. There are some neat design improvements too like the focus ring throw lever for example. Currently using mine on a 12 ft lbs .22 Delta Wolf. Zeroed at 30m, I use it to shoot rats from 12m. (Great film btw!)
@@airgunextra thanks for the reply,I do also have the pard 008,also find kinda strange the the pards 008 are similar in price to the newer version..I haven't checked side by side comparisons yet,but am thinking of buying this but still keeping the old pard..again excellent reviews fella.
Do they still move zero point when going from 6.5 to 13 zoom,?
Hi. yes, the ballistic calculator works regardless of the mag used and when you change it. Thanks for watching.
@@airgunextra well known issue that when you move from 6.5 mag to 13 mag there is a shift in zero,just wondered if they resolved this
Hi good review thanks a question if you shim the scope does that throw the ballistic calculator off slightly as the scope is not parallel to the barrel
Hi Paul. No, I don't believe so...
Yo Paul, after shimming you re-zero the Pard anyway.. so it has nothing to do with parallel or not. Only if the reticle is zero'd. So no! you can shim-away.. with no problems. (I just did it myself today) grtz Theo
Hi! How to remove the rubber eyepiece?
It's very attached to mine...
I believe the method of attaching changed and they are a little more permanent now so you have to make a decision as to whether you want the eye cup attached...or not. I prefer to remove mine which, as a glasses wearer, I find much better.
@@airgunextra Thank you for your reply, I'll buy a spare eye cup and take it apart, knife, fork, scissors, axe at home, it will come off for sure! :-D
Hi Richard,
I have the exactly same hardware set-up in .22 as you in this video. but could you please tell me which pellet you are using and what settings have to programmed into your pard nv800s lrf ballistic calculator for this please as when i use the ballistic calculator the pellet don't hit where the ballistic calculator tells me to aim.
If you could please help ?🙏
Hi Peter. I believe I was using Air Arms Diabolo Field in the Delta Wolf and JSB King Heavy mk2 in the .25.
I have been fiddling around with a few scopes that have a ballistic calculator function and thought I'd pass on two main learnings:
1. If you've zeroed your rifle and then find the groups are higher/lower at longer distance when you use the ballistic calculator, try adjusting the setting for feet per second. This will alter the impact point at those longer distances. If your groups are going high, then drop the FPS down. If they are going low then increase the FPS. Its a bit of trial and error, but once your group is on with the BC at a longer distance you should find it more accurate at other distances. Just check that your zero is still on.
2. If you find that your groups with the BC at longer distance are left or right, then re-adjust your reticle accordingly so that you are aiming and hitting the impact point. I've found that what appears to be a good zero at say 30 metres could in fact me out by a quarter or eighth of inch. When you add another 30 metres on top of that, that quarter or eighth of an inch turns into two or three inches. Again, just make sure your original zero still works.
I hope that makes sense and is helpful.
Good luck!
Excellent insight! So, would the ballistic calc help with the age old .22 hold over situation?
Thanks very much. Yes indeed. Take your time to set the profile up properly and spend some time on the range to fine tune and hold over is a thing of the past!
@@airgunextra Sounds like cheating 😆 So im ordering one this evening!
I use the same PARD 008SLRF scope as you, how do I set the "ScopeHt" value on the ballistic calculator? The default ScopeHt(mm)=70.10, what should this value be set to on FX Impact M3? Thanks!
Hi Ashwa. I simply measure the approximate distance between the middle of the barrel to the middle of the scope in mm with a ruler/tape measure. In the video I said that its worth fine tuning the set up once you've put a few shots through to ensure the ballistic calculator is working accurately for your set up. Playing around with the value you enter for scope height is one of the things you can adjust along with the other settings. At the end of the say, time spent on the range to ensure you have everything set up just right is the only way forward in my opinion. I hope that helps.
@@airgunextra Thanks for your reply, I benefited a lot from your video, thanks again！
Do you need shims when your picatinny rail already has a 20 moa?
Yeah - afraid so...It's worth investing in an Eagle Vision adjustable mount...
Although to be fair, I've put a Pard Nv008 on some rifles and it's dropped straight on without the need for any shims...
@@airgunextra I plan on putting it on my .30 Leshiy 2. I guess I will find out 😉 thanks
Hi Richard great review as ever. One question I may have missed this in the review, but does this product still have the 5 profiles as per the pard oo8 ? Thanks Garry.
Hi Gary. Sorry for the delay in responding. I believe the answer is 'yes'. I'll double check when I get the rifle out again and will let you know if any different.
When setting up the BC is there a place for wind direction and wind speed?
Hi Wally. No, there's no capacity to add in wind speed and direction unfortunately.
Can multiple zeroing profile be stored thus allowing use with different rifles
Hi Ivan - yes indeed.
What in gods name is that rattling sound at the end of your barrel seems like it’s clipping I have no idea it happens at this time stamp 18:51
It's just the sound the Delta Wolf makes. But many times exaggerated by the microphone.
Hi, a request to you,- create a review in night using ir. So i can see the resolution
Like this one? (watch to the end). th-cam.com/video/AB0_rLi8Nj8/w-d-xo.html
Hi Richard, I have a question for you about the rubber eyepiece.
I notised that you removed it before testshooting, and also in the previous vids about the old 008p.
Was it a easy operation? ...I guess it's glued on.. true?
I want to remove it also, but I guess I'm a little cowardly sinds it costs so much.. and I'm afrayd I won't be able to put it back on.. should I regret it later on.
Right now I struggle to align my eyes to the screen to see all the info on it. And also compared to the rubber of the 008P, the new one seems even thicker and sturdier thus blocking a clear view.
And another thing that's holding me back is that maybe the light radiating from the screen, might lit up my face in the dark and spook the rats.
I'm really curious about your thoughts on this, and especially how you went about to remove the rubber eyepiece.
Thanks in advance! ..I realy enjoy your extended-in-dept revieuws.
grtz. Theo
Hi Theo. Thanks very much, I'm glad you like our vids. Personally I find the scope much easier to use without the eye cup and I get a much better picture. The eyecup is attached...a bit. Having removed it I can still put it on again as there is a small recess around the ocular lens. However, as I know I prefer to use the Pard without the cup I'm not too both about putting it back on again. I wouldn't worry too much about eye shine - I've not found it an issue with either rats or rabbits. However, you can turn the brightness down on the settings, or wear a face mask if you are concerned. Thanks again, Rich.
@@airgunextra Thank you very very much. good info!
@@airgunextra I also really enjoy your videos - they've been a great help to a novice airgunner! I also get a better view of the screen without the eyecup, but in certain lights outdoors I've found the scope almost impossible to use without it. As you say it's easy enough to put back on if necessary ...so long as you get it off in one piece! Mine was pretty securely glued on, but came off OK with a bit of care.
That was a great review Richard. Going to fit one on a 22 rim fire that only has a 11mm dove tail. What would you suggest make of waver rail to fit as I here the snap on ones leave a lot to be desire. Also is there a max GB of micro card recommended.
Hi Joseph. I'd recommend a dovetail to Picatinny rail rather than go with the clip on converters. Optics Warehouse sell a reasonably priced universal adapter that should do the trickwww.opticswarehouse.co.uk/utg-universal-dovetail-to-picatinny-weaver-rail-adaptor
With regards to the mx GB, I'm not sure. I've been using a 32 in mine without issue and it's got hundreds of shots on it so far!
Thanks for watching.
@@airgunextra Cheers Richard for the info
Morning Joseph, I'm using a 128GB MicroSD card in my new Pard008S-LRF as standard, just as I did for my older (pre-P) Pard008-LRF and it works nicely. Pards record at approx' 100MB/minute so a 32GB card stores approx' 5 hours of video footage.
Hope this helps, loads of 008S-LRF reviews coming soon to my channel, cheers. Russ
@@RussDouglas222 Hey Russ, I'm still waiting (longing, craving etc) for your in-dept nitty-gritty review. And when you get to it, see if you can find out how to move the LRF-cursor more to the middle of the reticle if you want?! ...your humble follower. grtz Theo
@@oo-lp1wb Thanks for your patience Theo, I'm working on it. But (as I commented here two days ago for everyone's information, though sadly my comment was deleted 🤷🏻♂️🤨) -Pard have already updated the 008S-LRF firmware at least once since release.
Mine does display the BC aiming point on recordings (though at shorter ranges there are still some inaccuracies), and @SportsmanGunCentre have just informed me another update in already available. 👏
I'm confident this awesome compact scope's ballistic calculator will very shortly be working perfectly at all ranges. 🤞🎯
Thanks for your patience, cheers. Russ
is there a difference on how to use the ballistic calculator from pard nv008s to nv008s LRF.?
Hi. There are two versions - the NV008S does not have a range finder or ballistic calculator. The NV008S LRF is the model with the range finder and ballistic calculator. The previous model (NV008P LRF) also had a range finder but no ballistic calculator. The range finder works by with a quick press on a button and the ballistic calculator works with another quick press of the same button which marks your revised aim point on the reticle. I hope that helps.
Hi Richard, happy subscriber here from WA state and new to the PCP fun. Just received an FX Wildcat BT and am looking for an available NV008S LRF. Two easy questions: which scope mount are you using in the vid, and how much more desirable is the -008S than the -008P? I ask because the 'P' is available here stateside but the 'S' is rarer than an intelligible Biden sentence.
Hi. Thanks for subscribing. I love WA - spent a lot of time in Redmond and Bellevue for work... The good news is that the Pard NV008 comes with a mount and will go straight onto your Wildcat without the need to buy any kind of additional mount. The main difference between the S and P models is in the LRF (laser range finder) models of both. The S LRF has a ballistic calculator mode whereas the P LRF does not. If you're not bothered about having a range finder/ballistic calculator function, then the non LRF versions of the S and P are pretty much the same. I have both the NV008P LRF and the NV008S LRF models. Other than the ballistic calculator function they are the same in terms of optical performance and features. I hope that makes sense (at least more than if Biden explained it!).
@@airgunextra You explained it perfectly and thank you for the great videos, and for your excellent reply.
Good review, would be interesting doing the same test with a .177 sub 12ftlbs rifle zeroed at 30yds and then use ballistic calculator 40,50 and 55 yards
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Do you know what the cost will be ?
Hi Edgar. £899.99 is the RRP. We'll be selling them from our shop soon...
A comparison video of the Pard NV008s VS Sytong HT 60 LRF- 6.5x-13x, would be very useful.......Over to you sir.
I'll add it to the end of a very long list! Thanks for watching...
(Re-typing this as Richard assures me his trio didn't delete it)...
Thanks for the informative video Richard, good to see the 008S in use at longer ranges (I've concentrated at
Hi Russ. Always welcome your insight on all things NV. The unit I reviewed is running PARD_UK_20220224.
@@airgunextra Thanks very much Richard.
Hmm sounds like yours is running Feb's firmware, so you could leapfrog the March update and get the newest one installed.
Did you see my post on the Airgun forum Pard008S-LRF thread, with an annotated screenshot explaining how the eyepiece's BC displayed reticle is slightly out at 6m, but the recorded BC reticle is almost spot-on?
I think if (in time) they get the BC firmware tip-top and I can get an adjustable-iris sunshade to fit the new Pard (because just like the older Pard, the Wülf 4K and many other digital scopes, bright oncoming/direct sunlight can wash-out the image), I might well also replace my remaining Pard 008-LRF with an 008S-LRF.
Just a shame this new wonder-scope's not also 4K... never satisfied are we? 🤣🤣
Cheers. Russ
What is the minimum pellet weight for the ballistic calculator, ATN is 10 grain would be great if is around 8 grain.
Hi Arthur. You'll be please to know that the range starts at 1.0 gr.
The ballistic calculator cannot work good if there is no ballistic profile selection - G1, G7, GA.
Yes, as explained in the video, you'll need to enter details relating to your set up - pellet weight, BC, fps, height between middle of the barrel and middle of the objective lens etc...You can save several different profiles.
@@airgunextra but there is no place to specify if your BC is G1, G7 or GA which makes the calculator useless.
@@MasonStormSunny Hi. Have you tried one yet? I did with a range of different pellet and slug types and shapes. It worked just fine for me. Don't forget this is zero-eye relief so not appropriate to use on centre-fire rifles that recoil.
@@airgunextra well, there is that rubber piece which distances your eye. 008S was designed for centerfire rifles. This is why the IR and RF in on the left side of the scope so that it does not colide with the action of the rifle during reloading.
@@MasonStormSunny You do understand this is an airgun channel though?
What a joke of a rifle scope.
Which scope (day/night/cal) can zoom up to this or bigger target size (21:00) @ 100 meters?
I think you might be confusing the scope with the video camera at 21:00. You do realise that I walked up to the target with the video camera at 21:00 and its not footage through the scope right?
@@airgunextra Yes, I knew you walked up to the target.
My question no scope has the power of it (21:00). Unless I am using my uncle ATG's Hensoldt scope.
@@angelisone I'm sorry, I don't know what point you are making. The Pard Nv008S has 6.5 and 13x magnification, which is ample for airgun use (you do realise this is an airgun channel right?). That said, I use it on a .17 HMR out to 130 metres without a problem. It's not suitable for recoiling rifles. If I'm missing something please let me know. The Pard NV008S is a fantastic product. Have you used one?
@@airgunextra Most scopes have very low magnifications. It would be nice it's 4-16X56mm.
Your reviews are very nice.
Jos👍👍👍🔥🙏👍
It's impossible to get good groups shooting like that...
Trouble is I rarely take a bench out hunting!
@@airgunextra You only need a bipod not a bench.
Your ballistic calc will not work correctly especially the further you push the distance out to. The scope height measurement needs to be the point of aim (POI) of the scope to centre of barrel at the muzzle NOT the height from objective lens to barrel centre vertical when mounted.
Hi John. The measurement needs to be centre of the bore to centre of the scope. Mine works just fine thanks out to 100 yards. Thanks for watching.
Good easy to follow guide tho on the new pard, nicely done
Great video and a lot of info.... but 🙏🙏🙏 you could do this on half the time and double viewers..
A lot of people who are new to digital scopes struggle with what they perceive to be complexity. Explaining all the features, as well as how to shim (something that's often needed on this scope) and then shooting on the range is going to take time. I could have left a bunch of information out and done it in less time. I am not motivated by views - £0 is made from these videos. Instead all I aim to do is provide what is hopefully a useful and unbiased resource for those who are considering making a purchase. Thanks for watching anyway.
Hmm. Did PARD send you this as a freebie? Other reviewers have made it clear that they got a free unit.
Not sure what your point is but I bought it. Sitting on my Impact .22 FAC. Happy to send you a photo if you require proof?
@@airgunextra I think it is a fair question when others got freebies for their review. It speaks to the credibility of the review. If you bought yours that puts your review out in front of the pack. No need to be offended by a simple question. If you let things like that upset you on the Internet you are going to be upset a lot. Thanks for your review, and now I know how much weight to give it. Others haven't earned the respect that you did by your conduct. Regards.
@@rwizard I'm not offended and my skin is plenty thick enough. I just wanted to offer to substantiate what could have been an empty statement. I don't own every single product I review, but I'm only ever loaned them and not gifted them - they all go back. Hopefully my reviews are warts 'n all regardless of how I obtain the product as there is no financial consideration direct or indirect. Thanks for watching.
Your hand is moving a lot. So with higher power you’ll never got a good group.
Hi Jenny. Thanks for your concerns but I do ok thanks very much. I'd love to see one of your videos to see how it should be done. Feel free to post one...
your rifle doesn't sound to good. It rattles every time you take a shot
You've never shot a Delta Wolf have you? Or been near someone who has?
No I haven't but it sounds awful @@airgunextra
Mega yawn review
Sorry about that Jonny. Please can you send me the link to your review so I can see how it should be done. Thanks, Rich.
@@airgunextra Jonny is still sleeeeeeeping.
@@airgunextra great review.