Apostle Paul, an Implicit Universalist? - Douglas Campbell

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  • @Joe6pack4
    @Joe6pack4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So glad I found your channel. I am now a closet universalist in my church.

    • @Denise0752
      @Denise0752 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Joe6pack4: Same here. I would not be at all surprised that there are plenty more who hold this belief in the church

    • @thecarlitosshow7687
      @thecarlitosshow7687 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here

    • @True2blue71
      @True2blue71 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes us those that research and care enough to value scripture, holy spirit, and true Identity in Christ. I can only share so much at a time to those open enough and before they get too indoctrinated . Saying that I know they’re see me the same way

  • @miguelangelous
    @miguelangelous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love Captain Picard’s take on Paul’s universalism 🙌🏼

  • @ImprovforGodsglory
    @ImprovforGodsglory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "Love Unrelenting" popping up puts a smile on my face almost every morning. Bless you for your ministry. (I'm just finishing a book about the lie of ECT. All glory to God.)

  • @ethanbergen3217
    @ethanbergen3217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is great Dr Campbell is an amazing theologian

  • @stevenfrasier5718
    @stevenfrasier5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love Unrelenting, more Douglas Campbell, please.

    • @LoveUnrelenting
      @LoveUnrelenting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One more is coming in December. There will be three videos with him in total (if you have not seen the video about Karl Barth and universalism, you can see a bit of him in that one). 🙂

    • @stevenfrasier5718
      @stevenfrasier5718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LoveUnrelenting 🙂

  • @jimstrahan3271
    @jimstrahan3271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I appreciate Campbell’s point of view. However, I respectfully disagree. I believe Paul was an explicit universalist and see no place in the scriptures where he promotes annihilation. There is a second death, but there is also a resurrection from that state, and from what I read, Paul’s writings are in line with that position. I would like to hear more from Dr Campbell on this subject, so that we could have a better discussion on the topic.

    • @johnkristofftimbal5053
      @johnkristofftimbal5053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Second death is the lake of fire annhilated

    • @jimstrahan3271
      @jimstrahan3271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@johnkristofftimbal5053 I agree the second death is the lake of fire. And there is a resurrection from that lake when the purification of this third group has been accomplished. The first group to be harvested/resurrected is the barley crop/anointed first fruits, the second group is the wheat/those that are His at His coming, and the last group is the grapes/His former enemies. These three groups are spelled out in the 14th chapter of Revelation. They are also referred to in Leviticus by Moses when he speaks of Israel’s three major feast celebrations, and by Paul in 1 Corinthians15:20-28. It’s one of the most fascinating studies I’ve ever seen.

    • @stevenwilliamson2291
      @stevenwilliamson2291 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree Jim, Rom 11:32 and Rev 21 God will make all things new. If the Son of Man be lifted up he will draw all men to himself.

    • @paulallenscards
      @paulallenscards 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimstrahan3271the lake of fire is not a place ordained for any human according to the very text that invokes this place’s name.

  • @jimstrahan3271
    @jimstrahan3271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Specifically, I would like to know where in the scriptures Dr Campbell believes that Paul spoke about the annihilation of non-believers as a final outcome. As I said in the previous comment, I don’t believe Paul ever said that, nor even insinuated it.

    • @paulfischer288
      @paulfischer288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These are probably the texts Campbell is referring to:
      1 Cor 6:9-10
      Eph 5:5
      2 Thess 1:8-10

  • @robstewartstewart98
    @robstewartstewart98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I confess.....the idea of it being more implicit than explicit bums me out. ☹️. Would have hoped original disciples would have more explicitly known that universalism was the way.

    • @SadieMeadors
      @SadieMeadors 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The would have been explicit about it. They were not because they did not believe in Universalism, at least not in the sense that it’s presented now. For them, the only way to redemption was in the Messiah, and clearly taught that there exist people who rejected God and the Messiah, or became apostates, and that there are consequences for such actions

  • @PatriotsConnectProject
    @PatriotsConnectProject 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Somehow I am now getting you in my feed each morning. Thank you dear person who is working so hard to upload these videos. I wish I could be in contact with you. I'm guessing you are a "closet universalist". Isn't it terrible the persecution we who believe this endure?

    • @LoveUnrelenting
      @LoveUnrelenting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello! I have quite a few videos right now, so I am putting out one a day for the first half of this month, but that probably won't continue past that. I'm sorry to hear you have suffered for your belief in universalism. I hope the people around you see the beauty in it soon! On my part, though, I have not suffered persecution. I am not in the closet about it at all. My name is Steven HAuse. I have no problem with people knowing I believe in Christian universalism.

  • @christopherbridges7314
    @christopherbridges7314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a link or a name of the artwork you're including in this message? I particularly love the Christ crucified with the rainbow print. By the way, love Douglas Campbell.

    • @LoveUnrelenting
      @LoveUnrelenting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the time, if it's a religious painting, I get it from Wikimedia Commons. The painting of the crucifixion and the rainbow is "The Triumph at Calvary," c. 1874 by George Inness.

    • @christopherbridges7314
      @christopherbridges7314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LoveUnrelenting Thank you!

  • @pbwbh
    @pbwbh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I quite like Saint Paul.

  • @robstewartstewart98
    @robstewartstewart98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We can still assume the OG apostles were we would recognize as universalists, right?

  • @Mrm1985100
    @Mrm1985100 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:00 I strongly doubt 'all of Israel will be saved' in the sense that Campbell means is true. Paul qualifies what he is saying in the previous chapters, especially chapter 9.

  • @BenClemens-ok9fp
    @BenClemens-ok9fp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Paul is certainly an explicit universalist. His annihilationism is about destroying the 'old man', a prerequisite to restoration. This is entirely consistent with Jesus' teachings as well as those of John and Peter.

  • @vincesarigumba5452
    @vincesarigumba5452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why there are many Christians have A Vision and Revelation, Dreams and Near death experience Believe have Said that Hell Is Eternal place or Eternal Conscouis torment after death In there visions Dreams and revelation they experience and others uploads in youtube and other Christian people says that Hell is a place for eternal lake of fire

  • @aSonOfAbba
    @aSonOfAbba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Paul is the false priest spoken of in Habakkuk

    • @dorinamary7863
      @dorinamary7863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Paul wasn't a priest, though. He said he was an apostle.

    • @bradleymarshall5489
      @bradleymarshall5489 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      but was accepted by Jesus' disciples?