Yep!! And when said engine blows up from no oil, then they 😢. And said automanufacturer rejoices at the money they will probably make off the repair or replacement of the engine.
Actually, Honda VTEC owners are probably some of the few owners who would properly maintain a 5.2 the best XD Honda VTEC engines are known for drinking oil
Here is an easy fix for Ford, have a "low oil warning" notification well before it becomes catastrophic for the owner. Problem solved, a win for both Ford and the customer.
The low level indicator is known as the dipstick. It is manual and involves opening the hood and pulling out the dipstick ... Wiping off the oil and reinserting. Pull it out again and read the level and ta da you know the oil level in your engine. I understand the five minutes it takes to do this but how much does a new engine cost?
Great video, Ford covered it in the literature. I think it's all about oil vapors, that's why the type of driving effects it. This is why extremely high performance engines run dry sump systems with multiple pick ups and a huge reservoir. This is simply what happens when you make race cars available to the public. Yes oil level is critical, don't learn the hard way.
They don’t consume the oil because it’s a flat plane crank! If your going to make a video about a specific issue then you should actually have some of the facts. These consumption issue is due to the lack of tension the pistons rings have in the cylinders. I believe ford has changed the part number on upcoming motors , so they may have the issue resolved. Time will tell. Ford probably should of done something a little different to begin with though. This day and age a car shouldn’t need its oil checked every time it needs fuel. High performance motor or not. My GT350 uses oil but not to the point I’m going to worry about it.
Richard Mountford Correct. But there have been many reported issues from owners that their cars have used 2 -3 quarts of oil per 500 miles. Ford has been replacing these engines and know that this is a reoccurring problem. Any engine using more than 1 quart per 500 miles is warrantied and replaced per Ford performance’s warranty department
Aaron Clark, absolutely correct. The design of the crank has nothing to do with oil consumption it has everything to do with the rings. So many people have no idea what they are talking about.
So loose clearances or not, where does the oil go? It gets burned. Is it possible to to a harder engine break in and seat the piston rings better and lessen this oil consumption? I did this with my camaro and I don’t believe it has any oil consumption issues. I could be wrong though
I have a 2019 Nissan 370Z sport coupe 6M with about 14K miles on it. During the first 1500 miles I kept the revs below 3500, accelerated gently and varied engine speed as I drove. I also did an early oil change at 500 miles and another early oil change at about 1500 miles before going to a normal 3K mile oil change interval. The result: the engine runs like a finely made swiss watch with virtually no noise and is currently using oil at the rate of about 1 quart per 10K miles. I also sweep the bottom of the oil pan with a telescoping magnet when I do oil changes to try to remove as much of the iron and steel wear particles that have accumulated there.
Ford recommends first 100 miles to keep revs below 4500rpm. 1500 miles is unnecessary. These are modern engines. They’re built to run perfectly from the showroom floor
The 12-13 Boss 302 has an amazing engine and sound too! Love the Gt 350 but also love my Boss. As a result I loose some oil as well and have to replace about 1/2 quart roughly ever 2 to 3 months and it’s daily driven. Don’t forget the Boss was built to be a track driven car also, and did pretty well even though it had a live rear axle setup. Great review
I owned a 12 Boss 302. Got it with very low miles. Drove it sparingly and tracked it a couple of times. Started to consume oil heavily (before tracking). Ford replaced the long block under warranty. Stood by the product. LOVED the car!!
I owned a 12 Boss 302. Got it with very low miles. Drove it sparingly and tracked it a couple of times. Started to consume oil heavily (before tracking). Ford replaced the long block under warranty. Stood by the product. LOVED the car!!
Running a better oil will solve the consumption issue. If you track the car. Use either pennzoil platinum full synthetic or royal purple full synthetic oil both oils don’t burn off as quickly as other brands and the both have the best wear protection on the market. And also installing a catch can would also help with the oil issue.
I hear a lot of them having rod knock I assume bad rod bearings probably due to the high rpm and the crank on a flat plane is not very good for vibration which causes premature failure.
Greg Williams Well you’re going to have high heat and wear when you run it at higher rpm than not. All vehicle’s will do this under the condition he is driving. The oil goes away because of the heat and that turns it into a vapor which goes by the rings or elsewhere in the engine. The heat is the killer of a engine and it doesn’t matter what you want to say about it shouldn’t be using that much oil. JMO
Mine was verified to consume 1 quart every 125 miles, by my local dealer. I got a new engine, if the second motor eats oil they will buy it back and I’ll head back to Porsche 911. It started to consume oil at 8k miles. All compression, leak down and dye tests were normal. Ford really ought to address this in a public manner.
interesting... but false info. I checked my oil at every fillup, and it started not using oil, but by 5500 miles it started using up to 1 quart every 120 miles. Ford replaced the motor in February 2019 the cause was "excessive oil consumption" currently the new motor is not using oil. the issues seemed to show up worse in the MY 2017 cars more that others. the bore scope pictures on my 2017 GT350 showed cylinder wall damage in #1, #2 and #3, #2 showed Ring failure and glazed cylinder walls. To correct the guys Video, it comes down to break in procedure.. read the manual on break in and follow it. for the first few hundred miles, do not let it idle for extended periods, do not use cruise control, vary the RPMS, don't baby it but don't hit redline until a few hundred miles.
its the most insane thing i have ever experinenced we have the same ride brotha....its UNREAL how much oil it goes through but long as you know about it and you check pretty much everytime you drive lol your good the SECOND you get into the car and drive it any hard feeling towards its oil comsumtion goes away very quickly its the most amazing sounding car pure smile maker but you aint lying about that oil i got so much oil in my garage its crazy lol but you gotta know what your buying and know what it comes with i made a video on it also as i dont think that many people are aware with the amount of blown engines ive seen but if your insane about checking constantly i havent had any issues only other thing thats happen with my car is TWICE the ac line got to hot and broke second year it happen outside of that car is unreal ill never sell it that one will stay with the family for life enjoy the videos bro keep grinding!
Oil consumption is NOT normal!! The only way its normal is if Ford designed it that way in order for it to hopefully fail!! That way you will spend more money at the dealership. Stupid cost cutting crap!! I hate the automanufacturers when they do stuff like this.
How many miles do you have on your gt350? And how many miles per quart is your car burning oil? Has the burn rate changed at all over the 3 years? I do have a 17 gt350 and I just found out mine is burning oil too.
I believe the harmonics of the engine strain the internal components more overtime than an equivalently sized crossplane engine (like the 5.0 or 5.2 supercharged). Ford had to change the oil filter design from a spin on, to a cartridge design, because the engine shook the spin on design loose. I wouldn't be surprised if the new GT500 proved to be more reliable.
That is what is wrong with most people now they never read the owners maual or take care of the cars. Then always wonder why they have issues, take care of it and it would be good to you.
If you listen to ford manual on oil change intervals then you have no common sense. I dont own that cat but a 2014 5.0 and its oil change say evey 10k. Are you crazy. I dont rev and my oil is full synthetic is burnt at 5k. Ford says change the ATF at 100k. Once again their crazy. It looks good on paper for sales but kills the life of the engine. Use common sense and know your car.
@@daniejames2591 I have a GM car and a Subaru. Neither burns more than a half pint between 5000 mile oil changes. With today's technology no car should be burning oil in copious amounts like these Fords.
I know this has been said already but crank causing oil loss? Where do you think the oil goes? Loose bearings it'll still just run back into the pan... Large ring gap is most likely the cause, which is odd because hellcats and zl1s use oil but they run larger gapped rings for the boost. More boost/nitrous you run the more ring gap. But the gt350 being n.a. shouldn't be gapped so much. But nice car though and cool to see you actually drive it like it's meant to be
Check your oil. You would not believe how many people never check the oil. I'm talking about sports cars it's crazy. Something I knew to check at 6yr old on my go kart
The blocks were bad in the 1st gen Ford supposedly fixed it in later models.. sad to spend that much and wait for the $17000 engine. The real reason the filter can come loose is the crossplane crank has internal vibration issues. Ford built a race car for the street but requires alot of maintenence that the average person wont do.
Hey Joe, sorry to hear that man. Any other details u can share? Mine blew on Saturday 11/20/21….. and Im trying to diagnose the issue…. I check my oil often also…. And im only 500 miles from my last oil change. Happened so fast…..
@@vincebooker7142 Hey Vince, yeah sure when the engine blew my oil pressure droped to 0 turned off car right away and the motor was seized, going through a nightmare with the car to get a new engine, been seven weeks and did not even look at the car.. beyond pissed with my dealership. Winter Is here and I'm going to have to get the car shipped in a enclosed trailer to my house at my expense because it's taking so long to get repaired.
Some drivers just flat out abuse these cars. They over boost the block which overextends the capabilities of the actual platform. Listen, you cant expect a 80K car too preform like a 200k car. You get what you actually pay for.Treat it as such and you will love the results.
Every powerful engine I've ever had used oil. What will help is a dropped oil pan so your crank is not whipping it up into the bottom of the cylinders and flooding the rings.....I'm saying this unless the Shelby uses a dry sump (which would be a lot better for everything, especially track use) and would better serve the engine at high rpm's. Even then, certain tolerances in this engine will have to be opened up, due to the heat it will experience and the rpm's it operates at.... If it has forged pistons, like the engines I have built, the top end will generally be set up looser due to more expansion of the forged pistons.
It has, like every car, a windage tray. Regardless, the oil level will be the same with a deeper pan because the sump has to be able to draw oil. Thanks for playing, Tom.
Your correct Tom, unless it actually does have a windage tray. I wonder if you can run thicker oil in this motor. I know a guy that runs 15-40 rotella because he was having oil frothing problems. How he figured that out idk.
What I want to know where did he get his harness from. 2017 uses only 1/4 quart for two track day., but I have change oil and filter after three months or half the driving season.
hey im looking into buying a gt350r 2019 what do you think is a good deal example sticker or how much below?, i used to have a gt350 17 i paid invoice for it.
Not the end of the world as per American car manufacturer standards a quart every 500 miles. Could be worse if that’s the only issue with the gt 350 then so be it. Definitely the coolest mustang to date.
Like your style, Speed. Your commentaries helped convinced me to buy a GT350...I convinced myself to buy an 'R'! 500 miles from new. I don't mind keeping an eye on the oil level. Will be rather pissed if JR551 (build date May 2018) blows up, though I surely don't abuse cars. At least it's under warranty for years. I do NOT, however, believe from any credible source there is a clear root cause analysis for why this happens to various 350/350R....YET.
I love my Chevy Big Block 🇺🇸.... 496cid... 1.7hp per cid... have had it in a 69 Nova & a 69 Chevelle.... I swapped the cam once for a little bigger one when comp cams came out with a new line... it went to 7200-7400rpm regularly and it never uses any oil...
Hey Speed Phenom. I noticed your airbag light is on, as is mine. It came on around 1000 miles. I have 4000 now. Any insight on it? Have you had the dealer look at it?
Yep. You are one of the smart ones. These Ford guys here think its ok for an engine to consume 🛢 from brand new. Poor suckers they are. Fell right into Ford's trap. Ford is just waiting to make boatloads of off poor victims who don't know any better.
The owners manual for my BMW E 46 M3 says it's normal because of the engine tolerances for this vehicle to use a quart of oil every 500 miles. Red line was 8200 like you're talking about that's why
My daily 600wheel 11 tvs 5.0 burns 2.5 quarts every 1k miles. It spins 7200rpm like a swiss watch. It burns oil more when i drive it hard. Ford used low tension rings for decreased friction and more power. I check oil weekly. Not a big deal. Blows no smoke and runs great at 94k miles. Destroys clutches though cause its set up for drag but driven as a daily driver pump gas machine
95% of all mechanical issues are abuse or maintenance related but owners are quick to blame the vehicles and not themselves, not all vehicles are maintained or operated the same so it is up to us to learn and operate them accordingly.
"95% of all mechanical issues are abuse or maintenance related" I guess but isn't the GT350's up-down-up-down crank configuration with heavy counterweights on the crank very unusual for a high-revving V8? Is it definitely not torsional problems (bearings going out of round at high engine load) due to Ford's unusual engine design contributing to the issue?
GREAT VIDEO. AND VERY INFORMATIVE. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THIS--- COMMON SENSE !! GOD BLESS!!! 😎🙏🇺🇸 THANKS FOR YOU HARD WORK AND YOUR VALUABLE TIME. LATER!
hey man.... its scott z,, i am the one that just recently purchaced my 2017 gt350.. i am loving the car soooo much. Unfortunatly it has been super cold here in chicagoland so driving it has been minimal.. Thanks for the good content about the 350,,, its very good to get any advise that i get with having one of these GEMS!! Question,, mine only has 550 miles on it, and i am pretty sure it is the factory oil from 2017.. now i know alot about cars but with this being a totally different platform , do you think I should have the oil changed( my friend is a master mechanic), so he helps me out with things like this, but with you owning one i think you are probably the best person to ask for me.. GOTTA LOVE HAVING THIS TECHNOLOGY these days yo be able to talk with someone like yourself! 20 years ago i would have been on my own,, or having to TRUST a dealership( NOOOO) for answers.. Let me know what you think buddy,,, Scott Z
Regardless of how long the oil has been in your car, you should change it. Being that the engine is in break-in mode. 550 miles is enough for the first oil change. Flush out any of those break-in particles. Examine the used oil and look for metallic flakes. Also, a lot of people are recommending Amsoil. Saying it helps with oil consumption.
@@DH-zj9jb thank you man.. Very good advice.. I will defiantly do that.. Hey I wonser if the oil filter is something the auto parts stores carry. Cause its a special spec as I can tell.. Do you know offhand?
Yes 550 miles change the oil it is a new car with its original oil still in it. I run Redline in my Boss which is a little less expensive than Amsoil and a better oil.
Mustang Scott76 you could check with your local parts store. Or get the filter online. Late model restoration sells um. It’s my understanding that pre 02/17 models use spin on element FL-2069-ST. Post 02/17 cars use the cartridge style unit FL-2062. Maybe just open your oil filter access door and confirm b4 you purchase.
I was a Mustang/'71-'73 Cougar fan for 40+ years. My experience was wrapped around 302 and 351-C engines, inc. both 2 & 4 bbl heads. 50 years of being an enthusiast and a DIY'er tells me that no engine consuming oil at a rate of more than 1 qt every few thousand miles, would be acceptable to me! Period! Ever! Furthermore, I would build for a particular rpm redline and derate that by a thousand rpms as a safety factor. This engine is clearly overrated and the owners can't seem to recognize it. IMO, 450-500 hp in a street car is way more than enough and anymore is insanity. I'm beyond all that stuff these days. My "toy" is my 2013 Challenger R/T Classic w/6 speed. I don't race and my insurance is dirt cheap.
As a direct comparison, I just recently went on a road trip with my 17 Whipple GT and my friends 17 GT350. We drove 7000km from Alberta, Canada down to San Diego, back up the coast and home. Along the way there was many times on the beautiful Interstates that we did some hard roll racing and pulls. When we made it back home I had used maybe 1/2 a quart of oil. He used 3 in his 350.
I have a supercharged gt350. Built originally by Hennessey - has the HPE 850 package. But worked and tuned by DBR High Perf and Lund Perf. Mine consumes oil. Had a discussion about that with some folks and thought maybe it had to do with the blower. Maybe partly, but it’s that high rev. The oil, so I’ve heard (no expert here) gets by the rings because unless you are shifting at a high RPM consistently, the rings aren’t necessarily sealing. Even regular track use, you still street drive it and I assume most of use hear the absolute screaming and short shift. I do. I know I do. And I consume oil. I know that too. So I check my oil....ALL THE TIME.
This is one of the reasons I sold my Shelby GT350. I went on a long tour/rally of Switzerland and Austria in mine (2k miles total). I brought along 5 quarts of oil. I drove the piss out of the car all through the Alps. Mine consumed all 5 quarts 3/4 through the event and I still needed to finish and get home. Luckily some of the guys on the rally gave me a few quarts so I was saved. Still after that I was pissed at the car and sold it. Now I heard Ford will replace the engine if its consuming as much oil as mine was. Thats ok I wouldn't want it without the original engine anyway.
Pop the hood, see that dipstick? Pull it and Check your oil....what an amazing concept 😑 too bad most people need a light or something to tell them what’s going on. Oh nooo let’s blame the car for owners negligence...
I love these cars and yes it’s kept me from buying one. I have a E93 M3 V8 revs to 8400. Burns NO oil. I have lots of other cars they burn no oil. I have a V8 panamera Turbo it burns a little bit if driven very hard. But it’s 130k miles. Love the GT350 and might go for it. I believe it the best mustang ever made and probably ever will be made. Cheers boys.
Hey buddy Love your channel. Quick question. Just bought a 2017 GT350 with only 940 miles on it. I dont want to deal with all the issues that people are talking about with this. Would you sell if you could make 10 grand profit on the car and not have to worry about the engine failures? I bought it dirt cheap. Thanks bro
New cars nowadays have far better tolerances than in decades past thus lower oil consumption. I thought the days of new cars consuming oil were gone. Apparently not with this one.
You guys really believe this crap? obviously there's a ring/piston issue, or could possibly even be valve issues not sealing oil properly, but I think it's a poor piston ring design and 8250 rpm has nothing to do with oil consumption. 4 stroke dirt bikes rev from 11 000 rpm to 14 000 rpm and don't consume oils, street bike revs over 14 000 rpm and they don't consume oil. my procharge 3v gt revs 7800 rpm makes 771 whp and doesn't consume oil. I really wanted to to buy a gt350 next year..... but I guess I'll pass. Now is this harmful for the engine having high oil consumption. Yes and no, if there's too much it will gum up valves, start fouling plugs and eventually might result in low compression and excessive blow by, but it doesn't mean the engine will blow up in thousand pieces, but it means in a few more KM the engine needs to come out and you will need to replace or pay someone to replace all piston rings, and hone the cylinders. to get the engine to seal properly again and so far looking at all the excessive oil consumption problems, they happen around 30 000 to 50 000 miles so every 2 - 3 years. that is pretty sad. Only thing that might get me to buy this car is if an aftermarket company makes aftermarket piston and rings that have a better seal then OEM. Good luck on your top end rebuild. it is coming
I have heard that some of the guys tracking/driving spirited go up to 5W50 weighted oil and it becomes much less an issue. Dunno from personal experience, but from guys I do trust
@@hairedesigned3833 5W - 50 ... is recommended "only" for the 5.2 engine. Read the manual closely! The 5.2 is purpose built as a high performance engine (whether you drive it hard - or not)! Ford manual, for the factory recommendation, on the 5 liter - the recommendation is and has been 5W - 20... for standard passenger car use. This does not cover uses in dusty, high stress, high heat or racing applications. If you are regularly going to stress your 5.0, common sense suggests that you make 'other' choices. Stress can 'reasonably' be assumed if you are running an after market supercharger, blower; matter of fact - if you install any of the popular superchargers - they commonly recommend / require that you need to use 5w - 50 (synthetic) oil.... due to the higher heat caused by extra power as well as 100 lbs power adder siting on top of the intake.
I’ve been busting wrenches for 60 years. I wish young non mechanics with not busted knuckles would stop offering bad advice. It’s well known that the GT350 up to 2019 had oil issues. It had nothing to do about driver input. You look pretty young but rich to run the vast release of info. No hard time building or fixing !
My 98 Ford Escort can go 5000 miles and doesn’t use a drop of oil but it only has like 100 hp. Also I have no idea what the redline is, I don’t even have a tach. It will do over 100 mph though I have confirmed that 😂. Sweet car but that oil consumption would freak me out a bit. Seems like the nature of the beast.
What I never understood was why didn't Ford put a shift light in that crazy complicated gauge package. I'm mean really you can know head cylinder temp but no shift light on a 8200rpm motor. My Honda si had one. My $15000+ over the honda GT and the gt350 does not. Makes no sense
I know only one guy that has a GT350. Unfortunately, the one guy I know with a GT350 had his engine blow up...Ford won't fix it because he had installed solid bushings in the rear suspension. True story.
A 10 minute video about the need to check your oil is something I'd expect from a mustang owner. Like you needed to devote that much time to this as if it's some sort of eye opener. Didn't put the oil filter on tightly enough? Really? Couldn't manage that 20 ft-lbs, huh? Gotta look out for that one lol. Fuck's sake. I see a mustang and think clown immediately. This is part of the reason why.
What makes me laugh is that the same ass clowns that gave rotary engines a bad rap for eating out (by design) are not saying that same about this car. I guess if it’s a Ford it’s okay. 😂 I have a GT350 and an RX-8 and appreciate both.
Thank you for the common sense. Seems there are too many on here that think a new engine consuming oil is acceptable and normal. No it is NOT acceptable and no it is NOT normal unelss the automanufacturers are trying to bleed consumers for more 💰. Fraudulent business practices. What a shame.
@@stfu7800 I have only owned 2 vehicles and neither one consumed oil because they were well maintained by me and well designed. Consuming oil is either a badly designed engine or a poorly maintained engine. The engine uses it yes but it should never require adding a quart between oil changes.
2018-2022 mustang GT with an e85 tune shifts at 7500-7800… Gt350 shifts at 8000-8200 and engines use oil like crazy and explode more then they run good… why the hell would you want a $50-$80k paper weight….
Not only are the cars more fun to drive, they'll also be much more valuable. Sorry you got stuck with the Getrag. You should have at least gotten a Mach 1.
I got rid of mines it was drinking 8 quarts every 1000-1100 miles I only drove the car on the weekends hard. I was very disappointed with ford because of this and walked away from the brand for a while. Extremely fun car to drive but this issue hurt my heart and so I traded it in with only 7400 miles on it. It’s someone else’s issue now
People go from Honda Accord to a GT350 and assume the oil is full and never check it.
Yep!! And when said engine blows up from no oil, then they 😢.
And said automanufacturer rejoices at the money they will probably make off the repair or replacement of the engine.
Nah bro I went from mach 1 4.6 32 valve .. the gt350 drank 5 fucking quarts bro fml
@@buddyywilsonn how much do you spend on it?
Actually, Honda VTEC owners are probably some of the few owners who would properly maintain a 5.2 the best XD Honda VTEC engines are known for drinking oil
@@buddyywilsonn How many miles did you have when you added the oil?
Here is an easy fix for Ford, have a "low oil warning" notification well before it becomes catastrophic for the owner. Problem solved, a win for both Ford and the customer.
19 Coyote 5oh they don’t care about the customers they only car if car makes it to end of warranty.
its called the oil pressure gauge on the dash...
They had that in the 80s and the 90s on the Mustangs.
Yeah when pigs fly
The low level indicator is known as the dipstick.
It is manual and involves opening the hood and pulling out the dipstick ...
Wiping off the oil and reinserting.
Pull it out again and read the level and ta da you know the oil level in your engine.
I understand the five minutes it takes to do this but how much does a new engine cost?
Great video, Ford covered it in the literature. I think it's all about oil vapors, that's why the type of driving effects it. This is why extremely high performance engines run dry sump systems with multiple pick ups and a huge reservoir. This is simply what happens when you make race cars available to the public. Yes oil level is critical, don't learn the hard way.
I check oil all the time and no oil loss on my 18' gt350. I also empty oil seperator as well
I think it's great that Michael Cera is a car enthusiast.
They don’t consume the oil because it’s a flat plane crank! If your going to make a video about a specific issue then you should actually have some of the facts. These consumption issue is due to the lack of tension the pistons rings have in the cylinders. I believe ford has changed the part number on upcoming motors , so they may have the issue resolved. Time will tell.
Ford probably should of done something a little different to begin with though. This day and age a car shouldn’t need its oil checked every time it needs fuel. High performance motor or not.
My GT350 uses oil but not to the point I’m going to worry about it.
All of the information I stated in this video, I learned from Ford Dealers. I appreciate your feedback.
Speed Phenom
Ford dealers tell you what they want you to hear. What’s best for the brand/business. Not necessarily the truth, they usually dodge that.
Richard Mountford
Correct. But there have been many reported issues from owners that their cars have used 2 -3 quarts of oil per 500 miles.
Ford has been replacing these engines and know that this is a reoccurring problem.
Any engine using more than 1 quart per 500 miles is warrantied and replaced per Ford performance’s warranty department
@@SpeedPhenom
There's the problem...
Aaron Clark, absolutely correct. The design of the crank has nothing to do with oil consumption it has everything to do with the rings. So many people have no idea what they are talking about.
So loose clearances or not, where does the oil go? It gets burned. Is it possible to to a harder engine break in and seat the piston rings better and lessen this oil consumption? I did this with my camaro and I don’t believe it has any oil consumption issues. I could be wrong though
Question, should I buy a 2017 Shelby gt350 with 25,000 miles? The more I read the more I wonder if I should. This Shelby is being sold at a dealership
I have a 2019 Nissan 370Z sport coupe 6M with about 14K miles on it. During the first 1500 miles I kept the revs below 3500, accelerated gently and varied engine speed as I drove. I also did an early oil change at 500 miles and another early oil change at about 1500 miles before going to a normal 3K mile oil change interval. The result: the engine runs like a finely made swiss watch with virtually no noise and is currently using oil at the rate of about 1 quart per 10K miles. I also sweep the bottom of the oil pan with a telescoping magnet when I do oil changes to try to remove as much of the iron and steel wear particles that have accumulated there.
Should of drove it like you stole it
Ford recommends first 100 miles to keep revs below 4500rpm.
1500 miles is unnecessary. These are modern engines. They’re built to run perfectly from the showroom floor
@@sschevmale24 Could you cite an authoratative automotive source for that information?
@Jörmungandr drive it like you stole it or seals and rings won't seat right.
@Jörmungandr amateur
The 12-13 Boss 302 has an amazing engine and sound too! Love the Gt 350 but also love my Boss. As a result I loose some oil as well and have to replace about 1/2 quart roughly ever 2 to 3 months and it’s daily driven. Don’t forget the Boss was built to be a track driven car also, and did pretty well even though it had a live rear axle setup. Great review
I owned a 12 Boss 302. Got it with very low miles. Drove it sparingly and tracked it a couple of times. Started to consume oil heavily (before tracking). Ford replaced the long block under warranty. Stood by the product. LOVED the car!!
I owned a 12 Boss 302. Got it with very low miles. Drove it sparingly and tracked it a couple of times. Started to consume oil heavily (before tracking). Ford replaced the long block under warranty. Stood by the product. LOVED the car!!
Lol I forgot about all the gas station warriors ! They have grand stories then get into thier 03 focus or f150
Sometimes they do, have a beast at home tucked in the garage.
@@Vosovogalsyncope Yes, never judge a book by its cover
Running a better oil will solve the consumption issue. If you track the car. Use either pennzoil platinum full synthetic or royal purple full synthetic oil both oils don’t burn off as quickly as other brands and the both have the best wear protection on the market. And also installing a catch can would also help with the oil issue.
GT350 calls for 5/50 weight, limited options
I hear a lot of them having rod knock I assume bad rod bearings probably due to the high rpm and the crank on a flat plane is not very good for vibration which causes premature failure.
Greg Williams Well you’re going to have high heat and wear when you run it at higher rpm than not. All vehicle’s will do this under the condition he is driving. The oil goes away because of the heat and that turns it into a vapor which goes by the rings or elsewhere in the engine. The heat is the killer of a engine and it doesn’t matter what you want to say about it shouldn’t be using that much oil. JMO
@@kimchappell9559 not true!! Not close to true!
Mine was verified to consume 1 quart every 125 miles, by my local dealer. I got a new engine, if the second motor eats oil they will buy it back and I’ll head back to Porsche 911. It started to consume oil at 8k miles. All compression, leak down and dye tests were normal. Ford really ought to address this in a public manner.
Does anyone know why there was so much consumption?
@@gtrance3567 the piston rings that are badly designed can burn oil. most likely a poor design
interesting... but false info. I checked my oil at every fillup, and it started not using oil, but by 5500 miles it started using up to 1 quart every 120 miles. Ford replaced the motor in February 2019 the cause was "excessive oil consumption" currently the new motor is not using oil. the issues seemed to show up worse in the MY 2017 cars more that others. the bore scope pictures on my 2017 GT350 showed cylinder wall damage in #1, #2 and #3, #2 showed Ring failure and glazed cylinder walls. To correct the guys Video, it comes down to break in procedure.. read the manual on break in and follow it.
for the first few hundred miles, do not let it idle for extended periods, do not use cruise control, vary the RPMS, don't baby it but don't hit redline until a few hundred miles.
its the most insane thing i have ever experinenced we have the same ride brotha....its UNREAL how much oil it goes through but long as you know about it and you check pretty much everytime you drive lol your good the SECOND you get into the car and drive it any hard feeling towards its oil comsumtion goes away very quickly its the most amazing sounding car pure smile maker but you aint lying about that oil i got so much oil in my garage its crazy lol but you gotta know what your buying and know what it comes with i made a video on it also as i dont think that many people are aware with the amount of blown engines ive seen but if your insane about checking constantly i havent had any issues only other thing thats happen with my car is TWICE the ac line got to hot and broke second year it happen outside of that car is unreal ill never sell it that one will stay with the family for life enjoy the videos bro keep grinding!
Oil consumption is NOT normal!!
The only way its normal is if Ford designed it that way in order for it to hopefully fail!!
That way you will spend more money at the dealership. Stupid cost cutting crap!!
I hate the automanufacturers when they do stuff like this.
@@extremedrivr ALL cars consume oil.. some more than others.. The gt350 does consume an abnormal amount
How many miles do you have on your gt350? And how many miles per quart is your car burning oil? Has the burn rate changed at all over the 3 years? I do have a 17 gt350 and I just found out mine is burning oil too.
So true. Good Video 👍🏼 no worries with the 2016 GT350
I believe the harmonics of the engine strain the internal components more overtime than an equivalently sized crossplane engine (like the 5.0 or 5.2 supercharged). Ford had to change the oil filter design from a spin on, to a cartridge design, because the engine shook the spin on design loose. I wouldn't be surprised if the new GT500 proved to be more reliable.
That is what is wrong with most people now they never read the owners maual or take care of the cars. Then always wonder why they have issues, take care of it and it would be good to you.
If you listen to ford manual on oil change intervals then you have no common sense. I dont own that cat but a 2014 5.0 and its oil change say evey 10k. Are you crazy. I dont rev and my oil is full synthetic is burnt at 5k. Ford says change the ATF at 100k. Once again their crazy. It looks good on paper for sales but kills the life of the engine. Use common sense and know your car.
@@daniejames2591 I have a GM car and a Subaru. Neither burns more than a half pint between 5000 mile oil changes. With today's technology no car should be burning oil in copious amounts like these Fords.
Danie James agreed. I do ATF every 50K on my Lexus and 3-4K 𝐎il.
@@robj2704 Yep, my Hemi doesn't burn oil like that.
I know this has been said already but crank causing oil loss? Where do you think the oil goes? Loose bearings it'll still just run back into the pan... Large ring gap is most likely the cause, which is odd because hellcats and zl1s use oil but they run larger gapped rings for the boost. More boost/nitrous you run the more ring gap. But the gt350 being n.a. shouldn't be gapped so much. But nice car though and cool to see you actually drive it like it's meant to be
As a buyer potentially looking at buying one of these cars, is it safe to say not to get one without warranty?
Checking the oil level is car maintenance 101. You should be checking it along with tire pressure every week no matter the type of car.
Check your oil. You would not believe how many people never check the oil. I'm talking about sports cars it's crazy. Something I knew to check at 6yr old on my go kart
Exactly!!!! I bet more than half of these blown engines were from people not checking oil.
@@lmjames33
That is a poorly designed engine.
It should NOT EVER consume 🛢 unless it had mayne a few hundred thousand miles on it.
The blocks were bad in the 1st gen Ford supposedly fixed it in later models.. sad to spend that much and wait for the $17000 engine. The real reason the filter can come loose is the crossplane crank has internal vibration issues. Ford built a race car for the street but requires alot of maintenence that the average person wont do.
My gt350 just blown yesterday, meticulously maintained and checked the oil pretty well every time before I would go for a ride.
Hey Joe, sorry to hear that man. Any other details u can share? Mine blew on Saturday 11/20/21….. and Im trying to diagnose the issue…. I check my oil often also…. And im only 500 miles from my last oil change. Happened so fast…..
@@vincebooker7142 Hey Vince, yeah sure when the engine blew my oil pressure droped to 0 turned off car right away and the motor was seized, going through a nightmare with the car to get a new engine, been seven weeks and did not even look at the car.. beyond pissed with my dealership. Winter Is here and I'm going to have to get the car shipped in a enclosed trailer to my house at my expense because it's taking so long to get repaired.
@@joelaframboise9797what year is your car and is it a R model?
The oil pump was another reason 5.0 and 5.2 mustangs blow the engine
how much did the car cost you . was there dealer mark up thanks
A fresh built NASCAR engine will use 2-3 quarts in a 500 mile race
Some drivers just flat out abuse these cars. They over boost the block which overextends the capabilities of the actual platform. Listen, you cant expect a 80K car too preform like a 200k car. You get what you actually pay for.Treat it as such and you will love the results.
People really don't check their oil? On a performance engine? No respect
Every powerful engine I've ever had used oil. What will help is a dropped oil pan so your crank is not whipping it up into the bottom of the cylinders and flooding the rings.....I'm saying this unless the Shelby uses a dry sump (which would be a lot better for everything, especially track use) and would better serve the engine at high rpm's. Even then, certain tolerances in this engine will have to be opened up, due to the heat it will experience and the rpm's it operates at.... If it has forged pistons, like the engines I have built, the top end will generally be set up looser due to more expansion of the forged pistons.
It has, like every car, a windage tray. Regardless, the oil level will be the same with a deeper pan because the sump has to be able to draw oil. Thanks for playing, Tom.
Your correct Tom, unless it actually does have a windage tray. I wonder if you can run thicker oil in this motor. I know a guy that runs 15-40 rotella because he was having oil frothing problems. How he figured that out idk.
What I want to know where did he get his harness from. 2017 uses only 1/4 quart for two track day., but I have change oil and filter after three months or half the driving season.
hey im looking into buying a gt350r 2019 what do you think is a good deal example sticker or how much below?, i used to have a gt350 17 i paid invoice for it.
Depending on where you live, unlikely you will get a 2019 below sticker
This does make a lot of sense. I check my 2017 gt350 oil level at least once a week or more, especially after driving higher up in the rpm’s.
Not the end of the world as per American car manufacturer standards a quart every 500 miles. Could be worse if that’s the only issue with the gt 350 then so be it. Definitely the coolest mustang to date.
Like your style, Speed. Your commentaries helped convinced me to buy a GT350...I convinced myself to buy an 'R'! 500 miles from new. I don't mind keeping an eye on the oil level. Will be rather pissed if JR551 (build date May 2018) blows up, though I surely don't abuse cars. At least it's under warranty for years. I do NOT, however, believe from any credible source there is a clear root cause analysis for why this happens to various 350/350R....YET.
I love my Chevy Big Block 🇺🇸.... 496cid... 1.7hp per cid... have had it in a 69 Nova & a 69 Chevelle.... I swapped the cam once for a little bigger one when comp cams came out with a new line... it went to 7200-7400rpm regularly and it never uses any oil...
See that!!
Thank you for having a properly designed engine.
Hey Speed Phenom. I noticed your airbag light is on, as is mine. It came on around 1000 miles. I have 4000 now. Any insight on it? Have you had the dealer look at it?
do they hold 10 qts. like the regular gts?guess you gotta buy 3 jugs at a time.
I have a 17 Gt350. It’s at the Ford dealer now waiting for Ford to get involved. It’s consuming one quart or oil every 157 miles.
I qt every 500 miles?!?!?!? WTF ! My ZL1 is a trackcar and eats gas and tires but not oil
Yep. You are one of the smart ones. These Ford guys here think its ok for an engine to consume 🛢 from brand new.
Poor suckers they are. Fell right into Ford's trap. Ford is just waiting to make boatloads of off poor victims who don't know any better.
The owners manual for my BMW E 46 M3 says it's normal because of the engine tolerances for this vehicle to use a quart of oil every 500 miles. Red line was 8200 like you're talking about that's why
My daily 600wheel 11 tvs 5.0 burns 2.5 quarts every 1k miles. It spins 7200rpm like a swiss watch. It burns oil more when i drive it hard. Ford used low tension rings for decreased friction and more power. I check oil weekly. Not a big deal. Blows no smoke and runs great at 94k miles. Destroys clutches though cause its set up for drag but driven as a daily driver pump gas machine
Thank you sir. I am looking for a used GT350 and was worried about this issue
I check the oil in my 08 GT500 once a week and after i drive like a teenager.
95% of all mechanical issues are abuse or maintenance related but owners are quick to blame the vehicles and not themselves, not all vehicles are maintained or operated the same so it is up to us to learn and operate them accordingly.
"95% of all mechanical issues are abuse or maintenance related" I guess but isn't the GT350's up-down-up-down crank configuration with heavy counterweights on the crank very unusual for a high-revving V8? Is it definitely not torsional problems (bearings going out of round at high engine load) due to Ford's unusual engine design contributing to the issue?
GREAT VIDEO. AND VERY INFORMATIVE. IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THIS--- COMMON SENSE !! GOD BLESS!!! 😎🙏🇺🇸 THANKS FOR YOU HARD WORK AND YOUR VALUABLE TIME. LATER!
If u run mobile 1 or amsoil u will not have any oil burning issues. If u have piston slap then it will drink oil.
hey man.... its scott z,, i am the one that just recently purchaced my 2017 gt350.. i am loving the car soooo much. Unfortunatly it has been super cold here in chicagoland so driving it has been minimal.. Thanks for the good content about the 350,,, its very good to get any advise that i get with having one of these GEMS!! Question,, mine only has 550 miles on it, and i am pretty sure it is the factory oil from 2017.. now i know alot about cars but with this being a totally different platform , do you think I should have the oil changed( my friend is a master mechanic), so he helps me out with things like this, but with you owning one i think you are probably the best person to ask for me.. GOTTA LOVE HAVING THIS TECHNOLOGY these days yo be able to talk with someone like yourself! 20 years ago i would have been on my own,, or having to TRUST a dealership( NOOOO) for answers.. Let me know what you think buddy,,, Scott Z
Regardless of how long the oil has been in your car, you should change it. Being that the engine is in break-in mode. 550 miles is enough for the first oil change. Flush out any of those break-in particles. Examine the used oil and look for metallic flakes. Also, a lot of people are recommending Amsoil. Saying it helps with oil consumption.
@@DH-zj9jb thank you man.. Very good advice.. I will defiantly do that.. Hey I wonser if the oil filter is something the auto parts stores carry. Cause its a special spec as I can tell.. Do you know offhand?
Yes 550 miles change the oil it is a new car with its original oil still in it. I run Redline in my Boss which is a little less expensive than Amsoil and a better oil.
Mustang Scott76 you could check with your local parts store. Or get the filter online. Late model restoration sells um. It’s my understanding that pre 02/17 models use spin on element FL-2069-ST. Post 02/17 cars use the cartridge style unit FL-2062. Maybe just open your oil filter access door and confirm b4 you purchase.
BTW, those are Motorcraft part numbers
Great content, how many miles so far?
Very informative!! Thank you!
I was a Mustang/'71-'73 Cougar fan for 40+ years. My experience was wrapped around 302 and 351-C engines, inc. both 2 & 4 bbl heads. 50 years of being an enthusiast and a DIY'er tells me that no engine consuming oil at a rate of more than 1 qt every few thousand miles, would be acceptable to me! Period! Ever! Furthermore, I would build for a particular rpm redline and derate that by a thousand rpms as a safety factor. This engine is clearly overrated and the owners can't seem to recognize it. IMO, 450-500 hp in a street car is way more than enough and anymore is insanity. I'm beyond all that stuff these days. My "toy" is my 2013 Challenger R/T Classic w/6 speed. I don't race and my insurance is dirt cheap.
As a direct comparison, I just recently went on a road trip with my 17 Whipple GT and my friends 17 GT350. We drove 7000km from Alberta, Canada down to San Diego, back up the coast and home. Along the way there was many times on the beautiful Interstates that we did some hard roll racing and pulls. When we made it back home I had used maybe 1/2 a quart of oil. He used 3 in his 350.
Exactly how many miles did you drive
@@maximusvonce1381 Well 7000km is about 4300 miles
Sad to say my gt350 motor had blown but the Ford dealership took good care of me and I traded it in for a car that was limited the Dodge demon
Fingers crossed for you on the GT!
I have a supercharged gt350. Built originally by Hennessey - has the HPE 850 package. But worked and tuned by DBR High Perf and Lund Perf. Mine consumes oil. Had a discussion about that with some folks and thought maybe it had to do with the blower. Maybe partly, but it’s that high rev. The oil, so I’ve heard (no expert here) gets by the rings because unless you are shifting at a high RPM consistently, the rings aren’t necessarily sealing. Even regular track use, you still street drive it and I assume most of use hear the absolute screaming and short shift. I do. I know I do. And I consume oil. I know that too. So I check my oil....ALL THE TIME.
What happened to the Fail-Safe for the oil low cut off?
Great video. Great Mustang. Thanks for sharing
Does the 2019/2020 have these issues?
My 2019 GT350R doesn't consume oil
Neve another American muscle car built like the GT350! Good luck on the GT!!!
Thank you Garry!
what year do you have?
Badass ride bro, thank you.
This is one of the reasons I sold my Shelby GT350. I went on a long tour/rally of Switzerland and Austria in mine (2k miles total). I brought along 5 quarts of oil. I drove the piss out of the car all through the Alps. Mine consumed all 5 quarts 3/4 through the event and I still needed to finish and get home. Luckily some of the guys on the rally gave me a few quarts so I was saved. Still after that I was pissed at the car and sold it. Now I heard Ford will replace the engine if its consuming as much oil as mine was. Thats ok I wouldn't want it without the original engine anyway.
Damn that sucks
Other than the oil consumption, was it fun to drive on the tour?
Pop the hood, see that dipstick? Pull it and Check your oil....what an amazing concept 😑 too bad most people need a light or something to tell them what’s going on. Oh nooo let’s blame the car for owners negligence...
Lot of BMW's don't have dipsticks. :D
Just bought a 2013 GT500 sold my 2009 love your channel ..I’m gonna Kenne Bell and build the motor !!!
I love these cars and yes it’s kept me from buying one. I have a E93 M3 V8 revs to 8400. Burns NO oil. I have lots of other cars they burn no oil. I have a V8 panamera Turbo it burns a little bit if driven very hard. But it’s 130k miles. Love the GT350 and might go for it. I believe it the best mustang ever made and probably ever will be made. Cheers boys.
It's a ford furnace....1gt/500 mi is burning oil
The problem is you do not have a cache can on the passenger (dirty) side
Part of the reason is Motorcraft oil is bottom of the barrel Connoco Phillips crap 💩! I’d be running Amsoil if it was my car !
Doese the gt350 have the same issues like the reg gt doese with the bbq ticks and piston sleeves i believe it is.
Take care of your equipment an it will take care of you.😁
Best lessson The Army ever taught me 😁
@@blockbusterflex5319 Yeah but making sure you have a good design to start with really helps.
Hey buddy Love your channel. Quick question. Just bought a 2017 GT350 with only 940 miles on it. I dont want to deal with all the issues that people are talking about with this. Would you sell if you could make 10 grand profit on the car and not have to worry about the engine failures? I bought it dirt cheap. Thanks bro
Ive got a 16. Never lost a drop yet. Hader over 250kph.
it's not just oil consumption. The engine literally can pop gaskets and the oil filter off
Nice! It sounds almost like a Mercedes Benz AMG
New cars nowadays have far better tolerances than in decades past thus lower oil consumption. I thought the days of new cars consuming oil were gone. Apparently not with this one.
I dont track mine but it's got 6K miles on it and I ream the hell out of it. no oil consumption at all.
The Navigator what year ?
I had an old Chevy in college that used a quart a week. What’s the big deal? LOL!
Corey Feldman?
Were you at spring mountain raceway?
You guys really believe this crap? obviously there's a ring/piston issue, or could possibly even be valve issues not sealing oil properly, but I think it's a poor piston ring design and 8250 rpm has nothing to do with oil consumption. 4 stroke dirt bikes rev from 11 000 rpm to 14 000 rpm and don't consume oils, street bike revs over 14 000 rpm and they don't consume oil. my procharge 3v gt revs 7800 rpm makes 771 whp and doesn't consume oil. I really wanted to to buy a gt350 next year..... but I guess I'll pass. Now is this harmful for the engine having high oil consumption. Yes and no, if there's too much it will gum up valves, start fouling plugs and eventually might result in low compression and excessive blow by, but it doesn't mean the engine will blow up in thousand pieces, but it means in a few more KM the engine needs to come out and you will need to replace or pay someone to replace all piston rings, and hone the cylinders. to get the engine to seal properly again and so far looking at all the excessive oil consumption problems, they happen around 30 000 to 50 000 miles so every 2 - 3 years. that is pretty sad. Only thing that might get me to buy this car is if an aftermarket company makes aftermarket piston and rings that have a better seal then OEM. Good luck on your top end rebuild. it is coming
7:28 YT Speed Phenom window decal. PoPo sees that, then you're not going to get the benefit of the doubt when you get pulled over.
I have heard that some of the guys tracking/driving spirited go up to 5W50 weighted oil and it becomes much less an issue. Dunno from personal experience, but from guys I do trust
That's the reccomend oil
@@punjab1captain 5W20 is the stock
@@olikat8 no, 5w-50 is the stock oil
@@hairedesigned3833 5W - 50 ... is recommended "only" for the 5.2 engine. Read the manual closely! The 5.2 is purpose built as a high performance engine (whether you drive it hard - or not)!
Ford manual, for the factory recommendation, on the 5 liter - the recommendation is and has been 5W - 20... for standard passenger car use. This does not cover uses in dusty, high stress, high heat or racing applications. If you are regularly going to stress your 5.0, common sense suggests that you make 'other' choices.
Stress can 'reasonably' be assumed if you are running an after market supercharger, blower; matter of fact - if you install any of the popular superchargers - they commonly recommend / require that you need to use 5w - 50 (synthetic) oil.... due to the higher heat caused by extra power as well as 100 lbs power adder siting on top of the intake.
I’ve been busting wrenches for 60 years. I wish young non mechanics with not busted knuckles would stop offering bad advice. It’s well known that the GT350 up to 2019 had oil issues. It had nothing to do about driver input. You look pretty young but rich to run the vast release of info. No hard time building or fixing !
My 98 Ford Escort can go 5000 miles and doesn’t use a drop of oil but it only has like 100 hp. Also I have no idea what the redline is, I don’t even have a tach. It will do over 100 mph though I have confirmed that 😂. Sweet car but that oil consumption would freak me out a bit. Seems like the nature of the beast.
Two words: Extended Warrany 😉
BTW... My GT350 doesn't consume oil nearly as fast as either of my old E90 M3's
What year?
@@lifeonmars03 2017
@@Michael_00001 been looking at a 16 with 9k on the dash
What I never understood was why didn't Ford put a shift light in that crazy complicated gauge package. I'm mean really you can know head cylinder temp but no shift light on a 8200rpm motor. My Honda si had one. My $15000+ over the honda GT and the gt350 does not. Makes no sense
Vito Augello isn’t there a heads up shift light indicator?
@@ridorr I really don't know. Never seen anything on videos and never heard it mentioned.
Vito Augello my “17 gt350 has it
Because of the crap MC oil in most of the Voodoo engines.
What's the Oil pressure normally ?
I'm having a hard time taking this seriously
keith bailey And that’s why your engine blew. 🤣
I know only one guy that has a GT350. Unfortunately, the one guy I know with a GT350 had his engine blow up...Ford won't fix it because he had installed solid bushings in the rear suspension. True story.
Will a catch can not help with the oil consumption?
no,its not throwing oil out. its burning it
A 10 minute video about the need to check your oil is something I'd expect from a mustang owner. Like you needed to devote that much time to this as if it's some sort of eye opener. Didn't put the oil filter on tightly enough? Really? Couldn't manage that 20 ft-lbs, huh? Gotta look out for that one lol. Fuck's sake. I see a mustang and think clown immediately. This is part of the reason why.
This made me laugh pretty good.
Good info, enjoyed the content. Makes me wonder if the new 5.2 predator cross plane they are putting in the new GT500 will have similar oil issues.
Probably not... That flat plane crank was new territory
if it has similar but increased performance targets you can bet on it
What makes me laugh is that the same ass clowns that gave rotary engines a bad rap for eating out (by design) are not saying that same about this car. I guess if it’s a Ford it’s okay. 😂
I have a GT350 and an RX-8 and appreciate both.
Hes a modern day mouth from goonies hey you guys 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There's just no way I could pay this much for a car and it use oil like that.
Thank you for the common sense.
Seems there are too many on here that think a new engine consuming oil is acceptable and normal.
No it is NOT acceptable and no it is NOT normal unelss the automanufacturers are trying to bleed consumers for more 💰.
Fraudulent business practices. What a shame.
@@extremedrivr lol maybe you haven’t owned many cars... or maybe you don’t do you own oil changes... idk
@@stfu7800 I have only owned 2 vehicles and neither one consumed oil because they were well maintained by me and well designed.
Consuming oil is either a badly designed engine or a poorly maintained engine.
The engine uses it yes but it should never require adding a quart between oil changes.
Chain your grade oil don't keep to just one some work better for your car engine your oil has gone off that is why.
Then why are GTs doing the same thing? And why is Ford replacing motors if that's what it is?
2018-2022 mustang GT with an e85 tune shifts at 7500-7800… Gt350 shifts at 8000-8200 and engines use oil like crazy and explode more then they run good… why the hell would you want a $50-$80k paper weight….
Not only are the cars more fun to drive, they'll also be much more valuable. Sorry you got stuck with the Getrag. You should have at least gotten a Mach 1.
I got rid of mines it was drinking 8 quarts every 1000-1100 miles I only drove the car on the weekends hard. I was very disappointed with ford because of this and walked away from the brand for a while. Extremely fun car to drive but this issue hurt my heart and so I traded it in with only 7400 miles on it. It’s someone else’s issue now
Sounds like a candidate for a motor replacement