Thank you for that - I think it's a great product otherwise I wouldn't be effectively advertising it here, its the fit and forget nature of it I particularly like....
Thanks as usual for your honesty, the costs of your Garage Queen must have really added up over the years ! I know she’s beautiful ! The Sizzapp is definitely something I’m considering.
Good bit of kit Andy. I would wire it up differently, not directly to the battery. Also hide the unit away. Easy to rip it out if you can see it all once the seat is off. Hide it all!
Indeed - for obvious reasons I didn't go into disguising strategy and location in more detail! By the way if it is ripped out it alerts you about it (it has built in power too)....
I love them, I've had it for 15 months now and moved it from my old bike to my new one. the software has got better after an upgrade, in that there are extra features. Never had an issue with it and get a message within a minute of moving my bike. Well worth the money as it's a one off payment you do save over time. I have the other smaller version, the 2G-2 wire not the 4G-2 wire and it works fine, not sure how long 2G is with us for. I've never had an issue with my battery either and pleased it's always getting power. Well worth it
What a great, simple and inexpensive tracker. Interested to see how it is in 12 months time. They could be onto a winner here. An updated video later, when you get used to the app and it's functions would be a good idea, which I'm sure you already have penciled in. Just a case of finding a day free in your diary haha.
Thanks for posting. Sounds like a great product. One piece of advice, you should always connect the positive terminal to the battery first and then the negative. When disconnecting you should take the negative off first then the positive. Otherwise, you risk shorting the battery (and many of the bike's electronics) and take it from the voice of experience, you don't want to do that. :)
I was having heart failure as you DIDN'T disconnect the Earth when you did the install, Nearly had a "How not to Install" vid on your hands. I was waiting for the sparks if you touched the frame with that screwdriver.
To be fair to Andy he can do that safely, due to the angles the battery is at, and the open eye connecters on tracker it's just a matter of 1/4 turn and slide connecter in. But yes normally you would always disconnect the negative first think he would have done it correctly if set up was different.
Yep - I agree. First thing a thief does is to check for additional wires to the battery. With a Monimoto tracker, it can go anywhere on your bike and is independent. The batteries last at least 1 year, so not a big deal. I also like that it links to Google maps if the bike moves, so it is really easy to get directions to where the bike is....
@@KLRJUNE That's good to know thanks. I still think the Monimoto is a more elegant and better solution. The price difference is enough for 3 years Monimoto subscription.
Monimoto is a dodgy company i have their latest and they disabled it after a couple of months and demanded an additional £36 . No explanation either you pay or they disable the tracker, pisstakers 😤
Fair enough! I like the fact I can fit it and at all times know where the bike is (including where I parked it!) for no ongoing cost - “fit and forget” is the appeal to me…I accept no solution is 100% perfect. Most pro-criminals I understand first move a bike a short distance to see if a tracker is fitted before actually hustling the bike away to a lock up - so in that scenario the sizzapp works a treat.
Thats a great pocket friendly tracker Andy. However, it defeats the object if its easily found. Personally i would try to locate the unit under the tank or behind a side panel at the very least, & make the connection to the battery look factory & tape the wires to the factory harness to disguise them. Otherwise, looks great to me 👍
@ Rich Helm Agreed. Thieving scrotes can simply snip two wires and throw the unit in a ditch/hedge/down a drain and within mere seconds it's effectiveness is completely null and void. Unless it is so well hidden/disguised and made as tamper proof as possible on the bike then the whole point of it as a tracker is moot.
You get an alert soon as the bike is moved, so that gives you time to take action and it also alerts if power is cut, it has a 3 hour backup power, granted if it's taken out before you take action the bike is gone, however I would rather have it than not 👍
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I think it would be okay if you did do that as long as it's drawing the same power, however I can't guarantee it, worth looking into, I'll ask Sizzap HQ 👍
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I have been informed that it can be done Graham, I'm in the Sizzap pro testing group, I have also been told that you can lengthen the wires, it will also not affect the warranty, hope this helps you 👍
I got one of these just before Christmas and they are highly recommended the support i got between Christmas and new year was excellect as like yours Andy it was offline but all good now as they expalined I needed to go out for first ride sometime to get it to kick off
looks pretty good Andy, id be inclined to install it behind one of those side covers, take the thieves a little longer to find and disconnect that way ;)
Sounds like a great product. I would like to have several except I have no confidence in our law enforcement to do anything with the information provided to recover the motorcycle. I've had two motorcycles stolen in August with six surveillance cameras recording the theft and all that they would do is take a police report over the telephone. I had the feeling that I could given them the name and addressed of the thieves and where the bikes were and no effort would have been made to recover the motorcycles. I knew I was in trouble as soon as they asked if the bikes were insured and if anybody was injured. However, if we did have a functioning police department for nonviolent crime I would have some trackers.
I've used trackers for years - the £30 battery-powered ones you get on AliExpress (TK-905 to be exact). I've recovered two motorbikes using them. Total cost was £30 plus £10 sim that lasted for years. However the main problem I had was their size and having to charge the battery every month. I've recently switched to Samsung SmartTags which are like Apple AirTags but they work better because you can see a tracking history and see the movement of them, plus the range is more like 100m rather than 10-20m. I've tested them loads and they are really accurate and get pinged everywhere - obviously cities are better because they don't use GPS but rather, other SmartTags and Samsung phones. Great thing is they are tiny, cheap (£20 each) and the battery lasts about a year. It means I can hide two of them in each bike for redundancy. Definitely recommend them if - only catch is you need a samsung S21 or S22.
Also, as others have mentioned, I steered clear of trackers that use the bike's own battery because if you connect straight to the terminals it's really obvious and the first place thieves will look, and if you connect elsewhere in the loom, it's also possible to find but it's also a pain to install. Benefit of the SmartTags is you can be really sneaky with where you hide them!
Yes several have mentioned them - the more security the better! Persoanlly tags wouldn't work for me as I'm often riding in the countryside with no phones or tablets (or tags!) nearby....
Yes, you can connect a device in another place where there are both a negative and +12V wires and hide a device. A lot of our customer are doing like that. The main things are that power should remain constant on these wires, even when ignition is turned off, and that device should be located (hidden) in such place to have enough satellites for a correct location and speed detection.
Good morning Sir.. Just a quick holiday trick.. I was worried about my steed when on a touring holiday. I looked at trackers and realised that they were out of my budget. So I bought a second hand phone android and hid it in the panels. Then every time I went to do the tourist stuff l merely linked it to my main phone by what three words. Of course this means that there ware no, Your Steed is moving warnings. BUT at least when I used parking spots in unfamiliar cities and wondered about there was an easy find your steed map to follow. Of course if you check it and find the steed is way away from your parking spot you have to give your main phone to the police to use as a tracker.. 🤙🤙🤙
Worth having - I just brought a similar tracker off Amazon more generic type that you charge via USB (or you can connect to bike battery) and battery last about a month between recharge and just uses a roaming SIM card that can use roam across many networks, globally. Works on both 4G and 2G, the key benefit for me is the ability to send SMS as soon as bike or moved, vibration alarm. So even if thief finds and removes tracker you know bike has moved quickly, you can then also use other apps such as IFTTT to do other things. What has been useful for is when I have done a good route I can use it to review the route and record it somewhere for future reference. More peace of mind I think that a real deterrent to thieves but often bikes are stolen and hidden to see if they have a tracker.
I've used both, didn't pay for either of them, and I prefer this - which is why I swapped, I like the "fit and forget" nature of it - no fob to carry around seperate to your keys, no SIM subscription...just easier to manage. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....I can assure you there's no such thing as a "freebie"!!
Mark Davies. Looks good but what happens when the potential thief disconnects your battery? what power does it use and how much does it drain your battery.
If it gets disconnected internal power kicks in and it alerts you it has been disconnected. Doesn't drain the battery as much as the other trackers I have, I think it draws up to 100mA a day - alerts you before the battery gets too low so you know to plug the charger in (takes about a week or so in my experience).....
Yep, I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
I use monimoto too, but it seems every year I have to change the units battery. With hiding it well on the bike, it's a pain to keep taking it out. Seriously considering this Sizzapp
I use a small apple AirTag hidden away and stuck with 3m pad. Lasts for 2 years then you can change the battery. Works just as good and doesn’t drain your battery
@@triradio wouldn’t that make you think twice about staying with the bike? If it’s hidden inside the bike and you know people are looking for it. Much better than a unit directly under the seat which you can just disconnect
I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
Great review Andy but similar function to my TruTrak FMT100. That cost me about £30 with a £6 monthly charge. One bonus was that mine gave me a great overview of the route I took on my 5500 mile trip round Europe. The only problem I had was a couple of slight blind spots in Bosnia Herzegovina but I suspect dueto its reliance on the 4G connectivity that the Sizzapp will be the same.
@@TheMissendenFlyer agree 100%. The advantage I've found is there being no need to shell out such a large upfront fee (albeit small compared to many). The other advantage being that by paying monthly but with no standing contract, I've no need to pay when it's locked all secure in the garage over winter, simply reactivate it when it's in a higher theft use situation. Horses for courses. Keep up the reviews.
I put an Apple AirTag on my bikes. £29 and you can find me app to find the AirTag. Got one on my dog too!😀 . Only the side of a 10p piece and it lets you know if the battery is failing. Lasted a year so far . Just a thought. Love your channel. Best there is along with Fortnine.
Thank you very much! Trouble with airtags is they rely on beinbg near an Apple prodict to work - OK in town, maybe not in the country. That said I have just ordered one to see how it works and to compare....
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah you may be right but it’s better then nothing and very easy to conceal on the bike. Lots of IPhones even in the country. By the way, they are not recognised by insurance companies as a tracker. Cheers. Keep up the good work.😀
Yes I'm curious to try one when mine arrives - and for what it's worth I've never had a discount from an insurance company for any tracker I have.....so who cares if they recognise it as one! (unless it's T&Cs stipulation of course) - like those trackers on my cars are (ie no tracker no insurance)
Well it does draw a small amount and the good news is Sizapp alerts you if the battery gets too low - it's done that once since I've had it fitted (had it about 2 months now) so I got prompted to connect up the trickle charger. Doesn't seem as power hungry as the datatool and vodaphone trackers I have fitted on my other bikes (I suspect it's becuase they periodically check in with the phone network) - they flatten the battery in a matter of days. So far so good..but I am watching as that's the one downside of a powered tracker like this.....
I just bought some to try - so far not impressed (I'm sitting less than 20 metres from two of them yet my phone can't find them!) - good in some applications but not if you live in the countryside with few passing apple devices.
To check out its working you could always get someone to nick it. 😉👍. Also I’d plug it into a auxiliary connection so it’s not connected directly to the battery (fused), and a sneaky thief would take a while to find it!
Hi Andy . Can you connect this to a ignition source I’m not a fan of having gps Permanent live .? . At the moment I use biketrac £10 month which I think is not a lot of money to cover my 28k trike . Thanks again Andy 🇬🇧👍
Well I've been experimenting with them this week given all the comments here - so far I'm not impressed - I'm sitting less than 20 meters from 3 of them and yet my phone cannot detect any of them! I put one in my kid's car too, very patchy in terms of knowing where the car actually is.....sometimes they work, more often they don't....
I have a question. How does the tracker "know" its you when u go out for a ride? Sending out notifications everytime u go riding your own bike sounds terrible to me. And as many commented already but u surely already know, Connecting streight to the battery seems like a designflaw to me. Now maybe a different always powered connector on the bike where u can hide the device.
Good question! It doesn’t send me an alert every time I ride….no idea how it works, maybe it’s proximity to my phone?? Come to think of it now I’m not sure if it does send an alert if stolen or if it just relies on you asking it where it is….I shall try and find out and report back….
I have one of these on both my bikes and they are easy to install and setup. With some thought before installing you can hide them and you don’t need to use the battery terminals if they are easily seen but this means it is not quite as simple as you showed. It does drain the battery slightly but I have a trickle charger and don’t worry about it. The app has good features and the positioning is accurate. I like that it doesn’t need a subscription but it is only as secure if you hide it.
Seriously considering purchasing, already have Datatool installed with yearly subscription and an Apple AirTag hidden away, but there’s always room for more, especially as it’s a one off purchase with no on-going cost. My thinking is if thieves bypass one of them, there’s two more as backup. @Andy, has sizzapp offered any of your subscribers with discount codes we can use?
Happy new year Andy. I'm a great believe in multi-layered security.....As you obviously have..ie:- garage security..My Triumph has a front wheel choke as well as paddock stand with chain. This Tracking unit looks a useful addition, although I'm bound to say it looks harder to hide plus the extra wiring is a bit of a give away...l prefer the independent powered types. In the past I've used Invoxia which is very small. The app has a proximity 'radar' useful when within a few metres the of 'Bike'.. handy if the thief has the bike in a lock-up...These very small units can be used for many applications beside a Motorcycle. l presently use a German PAJ system, very accurate tracking route/stop/parked, is easier to hide. However, it does have a subscription which is, for my unit about 50 € annually...
International Mobile Equipment Identity I think. It is a unique identity for your Sizzapp box (normally the mobile phone). The first part (8 characters I think identifies the device type) Be aware people that mobile networks are planning to retire 2 and 3g networks as they need to reuse the frequencies for 4/5g. One last tip, the ground on the battery should be disconnected first and reconnected last so don't do what Andy did 🙂. The rational is that if you short the +ve battery terminal to the frame you will get some pyrotechnics. People wearing a ring be particularly careful
Thabjks for that - I can never remember which way round to connect/disconnect - having learned the hard way in the past I am always very careful not to create a short though....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Just think that the -ve is connected to the frame. If that is disconnected then connecting the +ve to the frame with a spanner, screwdriver or your wedding ring for an instant won't matter. Nobody wants an exploding ring do they?
Great video, thanks for sharing. If the unthinkable happened and your bike was stolen, is there a simple way of sharing the information with the police via the app? Also is there any functions linked to breakdown location sharing etc?
The police will only do something if someone is killed / injured. You will get a crime number & that’s it. The days of the police dealing with theft is long gone.
I had a tracker fitted when I bought my bike brand new, I do have issues with the tracker. 1, It does seem to draw more out of your battery than normal. My battery is having to be charged a lot more than you would expect. 2, They have my bike located at a different address, I contacted them about this and they said they use Google maps so it's an estimate, this doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm thinking of having an alarm fitted instead..
I backed the kickstarter edition, and I’m very happy I did! Mine will work only until 3G antennas will still be around, but so far I’ve moved it from bike to bike without a problem. The only downside is, imho, the mobile app. I started developing my own for iOS, would anyone be interested?
Yes - I found having to constantly replace the batteries in the monimoto plus fob a pain, as was carrying the fob as was renewing the SIM card. Not so bad if you only have one bike and one Monimoto, but a pain with several. The Monimoto will suit some more than the Sizzapp, but for me the "fit and forget" nature of the Sizzapp outweigh any disadvanteges...
Yes, me too. I only have one bike and I find the battery changing an issue especially when you've hidden the unit well in the first place and then having to dig it out to change the batteries
Lots of talk about how this can be easily found. This is true. And yea the app will tell you when it’s been disconnected but that doesn’t really matter to you the user once that happens. What I did was take apart a good portion of the bike, breaking down to heavy wire loom. Used a shop manual to find a positive and negative line and installed this tracker that way. I then wrapped it in automotive wire tape. It’s 100 percent hidden and even if a garbage thief gets it down to where it’s at, they have to know what they’re looking for. I have it looking like it’s all stock. I recommend y’all do it that way.
Hi Andy being following you for a while now like your videos and couldn't decide what bike to go for a z900rs or speed twin 🤔 speed twin won out thanks for your input kind regards Ben
Correct - I found having to manage two batteries, an annual subscription and a seperate fob too much of a faff on several bikes - this with it's "fit and forget" nature works better for me. Monimoto is good if you only have the one bike....
Could you give me some idea how long the bikes battery would last using this device. My bike is fairly secure but I can’t fit a trickle charge. Is it days weeks or months? Just an indicator please?
The question is... Will it drain the battery if you don't start it for some time? I currently have the monimoto 7 which is absolutely independent. Yes,there is a tiny £37 subscription but is also only £129. Also works well . Ideally you want to hide this on the non removable panels of the bike,no way that they will find it until you found them .
Yes it does drain a small amount - way less than my more industrial grade trackers though and it gives you plenty of warning before your battery gets too low....I find it less of a hassle than the batteries in my Monimotos/keyfobs (+ the subs - particularly tiresone if you have more than one!)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer If it does notify you when you're battery getting empty that should be enough... The network could be a concern as well. You mentioned it's only 4G if not mistaken
Apple AirTags - three tags for £99. I have a Monimoto on my new GS - which I’ve owned for years (thank you TMF), but the other two (and my e-bike) are covered with Air Tags. No Alarm as such, but you always know where the tags are via the app on your iPhone, and they’re easy to hide, being not much bigger than a 50p.
Trouble is, as I understand it, they need to be near Apple phone or tablet in order to report their position - might work well in populated ares (I dunno, does it??) but in the wilds of Scotland on a tour I'm not so sure. That said as many layers of security as you can are good, so the more the better.....
How will a Company provide long term service without subscription cost? Sim / data plan cost money, app updated and maintenance cost as well. Cannot understand thier website description calling the sim card provided a "special sim" can someone elaborate?
Nope - no SIM - that’s the brilliant thing about Sizzapp versus say Monimoto like I used to use (which required you to top up the sim every year….). I don’t know how they do it as presumably there is sim functionality in the device. Really is “fit and forget”.
@@TheMissendenFlyer well worth it then ! And for me the bonus is you can easily swap it over to a new bike without any charges as most will insist on there engineers doing it for a fee
There is a SIM card installed into the device, but there are no any fees ever, all the duties we cover by ourselves. For users it is an one time payment and life-time licence.
@@junkie1128 of course, SIZZAPP needs the network to send the data to the SIZZAPP mobile app. But in case somewhere is no network coverage, the SIZZAPP will still work and record all the data and send it to you as soon as the network is available again.
Hi, can you still charge your battery up with the sizzapp still in place. Won't effect the sizzapp etc when you charge battery up? Or do you have to remove the sizzapp?
Might be useful for a car (can be easier to hide) assuming the signal goes through the bodywork, especially the low battery warning, can the alert levels be changed on this feature? TIA 🤔
I guess there are a number of pros and cons to one of these devices, and let's be fair about it, if a professional bike thief wants your bike,it's going to go. I would spend a little more time trying to locate it somewhere a little more tricky for a thief to find, but that's bike dependant. For £220 one-off payment with no monthly subscription fee, I think it's definitely worth a punt. One more layer of security can't hurt anyone this day and age!! You have a more chance of getting your pride and joy back with one fitted than without 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@TheMissendenFlyer My Insurance only covers my bike if it is in the locked garage or out away from home. If the bike is outside my house and stolen within 500 metres it is not covered. Are yours? 🤔
I have trackers on my bikes, prefer ones that don’t wire direct to the battery for reasons, most thief’s will lift the seat and cut any wiring to the battery other than the main 2 leads. While I do see a benefit with devices like these is the battery monitoring via phone app but the main one could be use this as a bluff for the thief to cut if stolen and have another battery tracker onboard like Monimoto, that way the thief thinks they have disabled but hey Ho you have it still tracked. Not trackers are not cheap so to have 2 on each of your bikes is an expensive thing. Maybe I need to come up with a dummy box with wires coming out to the battery 🤔😆
How much power does it draw and so how long can it be left without draining the battery? Good that it has a low battery alert. Will that alert be received with the App switched off?
Yes I received an alert once since I had this installed, was after about 4 weeks and gave me plenty of warnbinbg to get the bike on charge before the next ride. Of course it does drain some power (thats the disadvantage of all wired in trackers) but it seems to last longer than the Datatool tracker I have on my GS for example.
Yes but you have the inconvenience of carrying the key fob seperate to your keys, the hassle of two batteries to change and the ongoing cost of the SIM subscription - I used moni for a couple of years, but for me, this is way better - just fit it and forget it...only downside is needing to ensure your batteries don't get drained (and it even warns you well before that happens...unlike my expensive trackers!).....
Hi Andy, my only concern is the bike battery, how long does this operate before impacting the starting ability of the bike. My garage doesn’t have a power source, so I can’t use a charger. I’m using the Mini Moto you recommended a few years ago. Are you still using yours on the other bikes ? Regards, Colin
I prefer this - which is why I swapped, I like the "fit and forget" nature of it - no fob to carry around seperate to your keys, no SIM subscription...just easier to manage. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....
Colin , another TH-cam tester, tested the battery drain, and it worked out to be point 1v per day.. So over 10 days its 1v loss from the battery... or 3 volts per month....
Seems a decent device and hiding it better and the wiring would make it a really good device . Be good on the car also. But don't be letting the Mrs have the app 😮😮😮 😁👍
It looks like a good product and could easily be better hidden with extended wiring to somewhere other than directly to the battery. We installed a relay to a permanent live feed but it drained the battery in a couple of weeks so I moved it to an ignition switched live. I guess the same could be done with the Sizapp, if necessary, as it would presumably re-register itself to the network every time the ignition was switched on. Can you tell us what the quiescent current drain is as it is easy to calculate how long you will get before the battery is getting low? Richard
I don't know what it is I'm afraid (Sizzapp will know) - I know mine lasts abput 3/4 weeks before I get an alert from the device reminding me to connect my charger.
One guy on youtube monitored the battery voltage over a week of non use, His battery lost .7v (point seven) over a week, so thats .1 v drain per day or 1v per 10 days being left idle.....
Hiya Mr Flyer. 👋 Im not one to normally comment but watch and enjoy all your videos. My question is slightly of topic but im looking for a bar across my garage door and I noticed you have one to protect your bikes. What make is it???? TIA Jim. 🙂👍
I’ve bought quite a lot of stuff based upon your recommendations or reviews and I’ve never gone wrong yet!!! This looks an ace bit of kit👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for that - I think it's a great product otherwise I wouldn't be effectively advertising it here, its the fit and forget nature of it I particularly like....
Thanks as usual for your honesty, the costs of your Garage Queen must have really added up over the years ! I know she’s beautiful ! The Sizzapp is definitely something I’m considering.
Good bit of kit Andy. I would wire it up differently, not directly to the battery. Also hide the unit away. Easy to rip it out if you can see it all once the seat is off. Hide it all!
Indeed - for obvious reasons I didn't go into disguising strategy and location in more detail! By the way if it is ripped out it alerts you about it (it has built in power too)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the great things you cover. Looking forward to 2023. I live in Germany, maybe we'll see you out here some time.
I love them, I've had it for 15 months now and moved it from my old bike to my new one. the software has got better after an upgrade, in that there are extra features. Never had an issue with it and get a message within a minute of moving my bike. Well worth the money as it's a one off payment you do save over time. I have the other smaller version, the 2G-2 wire not the 4G-2 wire and it works fine, not sure how long 2G is with us for. I've never had an issue with my battery either and pleased it's always getting power. Well worth it
Great feedback - thanks Dale!
Hi Dale, we are happy you like your SIZZAPP device!
What a great, simple and inexpensive tracker. Interested to see how it is in 12 months time. They could be onto a winner here. An updated video later, when you get used to the app and it's functions would be a good idea, which I'm sure you already have penciled in. Just a case of finding a day free in your diary haha.
"free in your diary haha.". Was going to tell you off for misspelling "diarrhoea".
Thanks for posting. Sounds like a great product. One piece of advice, you should always connect the positive terminal to the battery first and then the negative. When disconnecting you should take the negative off first then the positive. Otherwise, you risk shorting the battery (and many of the bike's electronics) and take it from the voice of experience, you don't want to do that. :)
I was having heart failure as you DIDN'T disconnect the Earth when you did the install, Nearly had a "How not to Install" vid on your hands. I was waiting for the sparks if you touched the frame with that screwdriver.
Been there done that!!!
To be fair to Andy he can do that safely, due to the angles the battery is at, and the open eye connecters on tracker it's just a matter of 1/4 turn and slide connecter in. But yes normally you would always disconnect the negative first think he would have done it correctly if set up was different.
@Jay Harrod Have you been on ice for last 58 years, that's the last positive earth vehicle I recall.
I prefer the Monimoto because it doesn't connect to the bike battery so it's genuinely possible to conceal it.
Yep - I agree. First thing a thief does is to check for additional wires to the battery. With a Monimoto tracker, it can go anywhere on your bike and is independent. The batteries last at least 1 year, so not a big deal. I also like that it links to Google maps if the bike moves, so it is really easy to get directions to where the bike is....
I fully agree and over the past 12 months had absolutely no issues with mine
Prefer not to have to connect to the bikes power be it via the battery or the loom. Monimoto all the way for me.
@@KLRJUNE That's good to know thanks. I still think the Monimoto is a more elegant and better solution. The price difference is enough for 3 years Monimoto subscription.
Monimoto is a dodgy company i have their latest and they disabled it after a couple of months and demanded an additional £36 . No explanation either you pay or they disable the tracker, pisstakers 😤
Sizzapp approached me to review this, but I declined. The wires will lead any thief straight to the tracker🤔
That’s what I was thinking RM
Or the manhoosive unit with Sizzapp printed on it.
And the fact that if any thief didn’t know what it looked like and where people might install it, thanks to this vid they do now! 😂
Fair enough! I like the fact I can fit it and at all times know where the bike is (including where I parked it!) for no ongoing cost - “fit and forget” is the appeal to me…I accept no solution is 100% perfect. Most pro-criminals I understand first move a bike a short distance to see if a tracker is fitted before actually hustling the bike away to a lock up - so in that scenario the sizzapp works a treat.
Agreed, its virtually pointless as a security device.
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If you connect anything directly to the battery, please use a FUSE. If you don't it's a fire hazard.
Easy to fit love the app...the battery indicator is brilliant specially when it's being stored in a garage over the winter..
I have received this I have tried it a few times and it works great ..this review helped..plus the discount link ..thank you
My pleasure 😊
Thats a great pocket friendly tracker Andy. However, it defeats the object if its easily found. Personally i would try to locate the unit under the tank or behind a side panel at the very least, & make the connection to the battery look factory & tape the wires to the factory harness to disguise them. Otherwise, looks great to me 👍
Yep good tip! Incidentally if it is just pulled out it alerts you of that too (it has 3 hours worth of inbuit power source)
@ Rich Helm
Agreed. Thieving scrotes can simply snip two wires and throw the unit in a ditch/hedge/down a drain and within mere seconds it's effectiveness is completely null and void. Unless it is so well hidden/disguised and made as tamper proof as possible on the bike then the whole point of it as a tracker is moot.
Looks a good piece of kit TMF, easy to fit and bonus journey data also. Thanks for sharing 👍
My pleasure!
Battery terminals are the first place a thief will look for a tracker, it's too easy to find and un hook.
That’s exactly what I was thinking, I just don’t get it.
You get an alert soon as the bike is moved, so that gives you time to take action and it also alerts if power is cut, it has a 3 hour backup power, granted if it's taken out before you take action the bike is gone, however I would rather have it than not 👍
Would it be possible to hard wire it in somewhere else on the bike so it would be totally hidden?
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I think it would be okay if you did do that as long as it's drawing the same power, however I can't guarantee it, worth looking into, I'll ask Sizzap HQ 👍
@@grahamcunliffe9352 I have been informed that it can be done Graham, I'm in the Sizzap pro testing group, I have also been told that you can lengthen the wires, it will also not affect the warranty, hope this helps you 👍
I got one of these just before Christmas and they are highly recommended the support i got between Christmas and new year was excellect as like yours Andy it was offline but all good now as they expalined I needed to go out for first ride sometime to get it to kick off
looks pretty good Andy, id be inclined to install it behind one of those side covers, take the thieves a little longer to find and disconnect that way ;)
Yes fair point…
That’s the first place a thief is going to check.
Seems to be useful and hassle free. Happy new year!
Nice one FLYER, I like it. Happy New Year
Happy new year!
I like the idea of not needed to purchase another subscription for something. I'm going to look into this.
Me too - major selling point for me....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just ordered one.
Sounds like a great product. I would like to have several except I have no confidence in our law enforcement to do anything with the information provided to recover the motorcycle. I've had two motorcycles stolen in August with six surveillance cameras recording the theft and all that they would do is take a police report over the telephone.
I had the feeling that I could given them the name and addressed of the thieves and where the bikes were and no effort would have been made to recover the motorcycles.
I knew I was in trouble as soon as they asked if the bikes were insured and if anybody was injured. However, if we did have a functioning police department for nonviolent crime I would have some trackers.
Well that is a good point - and I thought it was just over hear that the police didn’t react to that sort of thing. Sorry to hear about your bikes….
@@TheMissendenFlyer 👍
I keep thinking about getting a tracker and that is quite appealing...
Works for me! I’ve also now tried the Apple AirTags…..my advice, don’t bother!!!
I've used trackers for years - the £30 battery-powered ones you get on AliExpress (TK-905 to be exact). I've recovered two motorbikes using them. Total cost was £30 plus £10 sim that lasted for years. However the main problem I had was their size and having to charge the battery every month. I've recently switched to Samsung SmartTags which are like Apple AirTags but they work better because you can see a tracking history and see the movement of them, plus the range is more like 100m rather than 10-20m. I've tested them loads and they are really accurate and get pinged everywhere - obviously cities are better because they don't use GPS but rather, other SmartTags and Samsung phones. Great thing is they are tiny, cheap (£20 each) and the battery lasts about a year. It means I can hide two of them in each bike for redundancy. Definitely recommend them if - only catch is you need a samsung S21 or S22.
Also, as others have mentioned, I steered clear of trackers that use the bike's own battery because if you connect straight to the terminals it's really obvious and the first place thieves will look, and if you connect elsewhere in the loom, it's also possible to find but it's also a pain to install. Benefit of the SmartTags is you can be really sneaky with where you hide them!
Yes several have mentioned them - the more security the better! Persoanlly tags wouldn't work for me as I'm often riding in the countryside with no phones or tablets (or tags!) nearby....
Bike sounds great on the Go-Pro. Wow great sound.
It does!
Hmmm interesting, I’ve got a thunderbox on my Africa twin I assume it could be wired into that rather than straight to battery?
Yes, you can connect a device in another place where there are both a negative and +12V wires and hide a device. A lot of our customer are doing like that.
The main things are that power should remain constant on these wires, even when ignition is turned off, and that device should be located (hidden) in such place to have enough satellites for a correct location and speed detection.
Of course...
Cheers guys
Good review TMF and a neat idea.
Thanks!
Good morning Sir.. Just a quick holiday trick.. I was worried about my steed when on a touring holiday. I looked at trackers and realised that they were out of my budget. So I bought a second hand phone android and hid it in the panels. Then every time I went to do the tourist stuff l merely linked it to my main phone by what three words. Of course this means that there ware no, Your Steed is moving warnings. BUT at least when I used parking spots in unfamiliar cities and wondered about there was an easy find your steed map to follow. Of course if you check it and find the steed is way away from your parking spot you have to give your main phone to the police to use as a tracker.. 🤙🤙🤙
Worth having - I just brought a similar tracker off Amazon more generic type that you charge via USB (or you can connect to bike battery) and battery last about a month between recharge and just uses a roaming SIM card that can use roam across many networks, globally. Works on both 4G and 2G, the key benefit for me is the ability to send SMS as soon as bike or moved, vibration alarm. So even if thief finds and removes tracker you know bike has moved quickly, you can then also use other apps such as IFTTT to do other things. What has been useful for is when I have done a good route I can use it to review the route and record it somewhere for future reference. More peace of mind I think that a real deterrent to thieves but often bikes are stolen and hidden to see if they have a tracker.
Thought you were a monimoto fan?marvellous how a freebie changes people’s minds.
I've used both, didn't pay for either of them, and I prefer this - which is why I swapped, I like the "fit and forget" nature of it - no fob to carry around seperate to your keys, no SIM subscription...just easier to manage. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....I can assure you there's no such thing as a "freebie"!!
Seems a decent unit for the one off price. I will go have a nosey on tinternet and read up the specs now.
Mark Davies.
Looks good but what happens when the potential thief disconnects your battery?
what power does it use and how much does it drain your battery.
Dan gaat die nog een paar uur door met de backup batterij
If it gets disconnected internal power kicks in and it alerts you it has been disconnected. Doesn't drain the battery as much as the other trackers I have, I think it draws up to 100mA a day - alerts you before the battery gets too low so you know to plug the charger in (takes about a week or so in my experience).....
I bought the Monimoto Tracker four years ago after watching TMF’s review. Works perfectly and the annual cost is very low. Not sure about Sizzapp 🤔
Yep, I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
Do you have to pay for the sim card with the moni moto ?
@Chris Hart no, just a very low yearly subscription to keep the sim card active
I use monimoto too, but it seems every year I have to change the units battery. With hiding it well on the bike, it's a pain to keep taking it out. Seriously considering this Sizzapp
I use a small apple AirTag hidden away and stuck with 3m pad. Lasts for 2 years then you can change the battery. Works just as good and doesn’t drain your battery
Not sure I'd trust having to be near an iphone for it to work....
@@triradio wouldn’t that make you think twice about staying with the bike? If it’s hidden inside the bike and you know people are looking for it. Much better than a unit directly under the seat which you can just disconnect
What happens if only have 3G or no signal for a long period of time ?
Good question!
I have a monimoto but I need an extra tracker for my other bike, looks very promising so will take a serious look.
we will be happy to see you among our happy customers 😀
I think I much prefer my (Two) Monimoto's I have in my bike and car. No need to connect to the bikes battery and be a constant power drain, and hiding is a lot easier as you aren't restricted by tracking wires back to the battery.
When 'reconnecting' battery terminals/leads, always connect positive first then negative last.
What's the special bar you used across the garage door, feel like need one? 😁👍
It's my Guardsman from Image4Security.....
Great review Andy but similar function to my TruTrak FMT100. That cost me about £30 with a £6 monthly charge. One bonus was that mine gave me a great overview of the route I took on my 5500 mile trip round Europe. The only problem I had was a couple of slight blind spots in Bosnia Herzegovina but I suspect dueto its reliance on the 4G connectivity that the Sizzapp will be the same.
That £6/month adds up - Sizzapp is FOC once purchased, that’s the appeal to me “fit and forget”….
@@TheMissendenFlyer agree 100%. The advantage I've found is there being no need to shell out such a large upfront fee (albeit small compared to many). The other advantage being that by paying monthly but with no standing contract, I've no need to pay when it's locked all secure in the garage over winter, simply reactivate it when it's in a higher theft use situation. Horses for courses. Keep up the reviews.
I put an Apple AirTag on my bikes. £29 and you can find me app to find the AirTag. Got one on my dog too!😀 . Only the side of a 10p piece and it lets you know if the battery is failing. Lasted a year so far . Just a thought. Love your channel. Best there is along with Fortnine.
Thank you very much! Trouble with airtags is they rely on beinbg near an Apple prodict to work - OK in town, maybe not in the country. That said I have just ordered one to see how it works and to compare....
@@TheMissendenFlyer yeah you may be right but it’s better then nothing and very easy to conceal on the bike. Lots of IPhones even in the country. By the way, they are not recognised by insurance companies as a tracker. Cheers. Keep up the good work.😀
Yes I'm curious to try one when mine arrives - and for what it's worth I've never had a discount from an insurance company for any tracker I have.....so who cares if they recognise it as one! (unless it's T&Cs stipulation of course) - like those trackers on my cars are (ie no tracker no insurance)
Awesome video. Different and much appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed it!!
Brilliant tmf just what I wanted how about battery drawing ? Thanks from Danny
Well it does draw a small amount and the good news is Sizapp alerts you if the battery gets too low - it's done that once since I've had it fitted (had it about 2 months now) so I got prompted to connect up the trickle charger. Doesn't seem as power hungry as the datatool and vodaphone trackers I have fitted on my other bikes (I suspect it's becuase they periodically check in with the phone network) - they flatten the battery in a matter of days. So far so good..but I am watching as that's the one downside of a powered tracker like this.....
Nice one Andy it’s a cost thing having 4 bikes apple air tags cheaper and no hiding problems
I just bought some to try - so far not impressed (I'm sitting less than 20 metres from two of them yet my phone can't find them!) - good in some applications but not if you live in the countryside with few passing apple devices.
To check out its working you could always get someone to nick it. 😉👍. Also I’d plug it into a auxiliary connection so it’s not connected directly to the battery (fused), and a sneaky thief would take a while to find it!
Morning Andy, is Corona one of your new sponsors? Only I saw their logo prominently displayed in your garage😁
Hi Andy . Can you connect this to a ignition source I’m not a fan of having gps Permanent live .? . At the moment I use biketrac £10 month which I think is not a lot of money to cover my 28k trike . Thanks again Andy 🇬🇧👍
Thoughts on hiding an apple airtag on your bike as a basic tracker
Well I've been experimenting with them this week given all the comments here - so far I'm not impressed - I'm sitting less than 20 meters from 3 of them and yet my phone cannot detect any of them! I put one in my kid's car too, very patchy in terms of knowing where the car actually is.....sometimes they work, more often they don't....
I have a question. How does the tracker "know" its you when u go out for a ride? Sending out notifications everytime u go riding your own bike sounds terrible to me.
And as many commented already but u surely already know, Connecting streight to the battery seems like a designflaw to me. Now maybe a different always powered connector on the bike where u can hide the device.
Good question! It doesn’t send me an alert every time I ride….no idea how it works, maybe it’s proximity to my phone?? Come to think of it now I’m not sure if it does send an alert if stolen or if it just relies on you asking it where it is….I shall try and find out and report back….
I have one of these on both my bikes and they are easy to install and setup. With some thought before installing you can hide them and you don’t need to use the battery terminals if they are easily seen but this means it is not quite as simple as you showed. It does drain the battery slightly but I have a trickle charger and don’t worry about it. The app has good features and the positioning is accurate. I like that it doesn’t need a subscription but it is only as secure if you hide it.
Yes this was a quick demo - I won't go into any more details about locating my devices!
Indeed - people in the comments don’t always realise that 😉
Seriously considering purchasing, already have Datatool installed with yearly subscription and an Apple AirTag hidden away, but there’s always room for more, especially as it’s a one off purchase with no on-going cost. My thinking is if thieves bypass one of them, there’s two more as backup.
@Andy, has sizzapp offered any of your subscribers with discount codes we can use?
YES! Sizzapp are kindly offerring a 10% discount if you use the code "TMFTRACK" at checkout!
Happy new year Andy. I'm a great believe in multi-layered security.....As you obviously have..ie:- garage security..My Triumph has a front wheel choke as well as paddock stand with chain. This Tracking unit looks a useful addition, although I'm bound to say it looks harder to hide plus the extra wiring is a bit of a give away...l prefer the independent powered types. In the past I've used Invoxia which is very small. The app has a proximity 'radar' useful when within a few metres the of 'Bike'.. handy if the thief has the bike in a lock-up...These very small units can be used for many applications beside a Motorcycle. l presently use a German PAJ system, very accurate tracking route/stop/parked, is easier to hide. However, it does have a subscription which is, for my unit about 50 € annually...
International Mobile Equipment Identity I think. It is a unique identity for your Sizzapp box (normally the mobile phone). The first part (8 characters I think identifies the device type)
Be aware people that mobile networks are planning to retire 2 and 3g networks as they need to reuse the frequencies for 4/5g.
One last tip, the ground on the battery should be disconnected first and reconnected last so don't do what Andy did 🙂. The rational is that if you short the +ve battery terminal to the frame you will get some pyrotechnics. People wearing a ring be particularly careful
Thabjks for that - I can never remember which way round to connect/disconnect - having learned the hard way in the past I am always very careful not to create a short though....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Just think that the -ve is connected to the frame. If that is disconnected then connecting the +ve to the frame with a spanner, screwdriver or your wedding ring for an instant won't matter. Nobody wants an exploding ring do they?
'Insulating your tool' is also good advice!
Great video, thanks for sharing. If the unthinkable happened and your bike was stolen, is there a simple way of sharing the information with the police via the app?
Also is there any functions linked to breakdown location sharing etc?
I don't think so...
The police will only do something if someone is killed / injured. You will get a crime number & that’s it. The days of the police dealing with theft is long gone.
I had a tracker fitted when I bought my bike brand new, I do have issues with the tracker.
1, It does seem to draw more out of your battery than normal. My battery is having to be charged a lot more than you would expect.
2, They have my bike located at a different address, I contacted them about this and they said they use Google maps so it's an estimate, this doesn't fill me with confidence.
I'm thinking of having an alarm fitted instead..
Sounds fair enough in that case!
How can recognize that movement are by the owner in a normal ride rather than an unauthorized ride? Can the app turn on and off the "alert engine" ?
I don't know how it works - but it does!
Where’d you get that security pole system for your garage door?
Image4Security - see the link in the descripton below....
Andy have you got a dater tool tracker on you new bike is that Monimoto 7 tracker better than the sizzapp pro
I do t know - I’ve not used the Monimoto 7 yet
Always thought it a disadvantage having an FZ6 with the battery located under the tank, seems not!
Its a bit on the largish Betty size 😄Otherwise it might work inside the headlight fixture, room permitting and providing the casing is not all metal.
I backed the kickstarter edition, and I’m very happy I did! Mine will work only until 3G antennas will still be around, but so far I’ve moved it from bike to bike without a problem.
The only downside is, imho, the mobile app. I started developing my own for iOS, would anyone be interested?
Wow - clever fella!
we are now developing new SIZZAPP Pro app which will be available pretty soon :)
Because it doesnt have a 'fob' How does it know the difference between authorised and Non Authorised movement of the bike.. For sending notifications?
I've no idea but it works! I suspect your phone doubles up as a BT "fob" but a great question I'd be intrigued to know the answer myself...
When you reviewed the Monimoto being battery powered was a good thing, have you changed your mind?
Yes - I found having to constantly replace the batteries in the monimoto plus fob a pain, as was carrying the fob as was renewing the SIM card. Not so bad if you only have one bike and one Monimoto, but a pain with several. The Monimoto will suit some more than the Sizzapp, but for me the "fit and forget" nature of the Sizzapp outweigh any disadvanteges...
@@TheMissendenFlyer ahh I understand it must be a pain with a few bikes, I get it. Thanks for your reply!
Yes, me too. I only have one bike and I find the battery changing an issue especially when you've hidden the unit well in the first place and then having to dig it out to change the batteries
Lots of talk about how this can be easily found. This is true. And yea the app will tell you when it’s been disconnected but that doesn’t really matter to you the user once that happens.
What I did was take apart a good portion of the bike, breaking down to heavy wire loom. Used a shop manual to find a positive and negative line and installed this tracker that way. I then wrapped it in automotive wire tape. It’s 100 percent hidden and even if a garbage thief gets it down to where it’s at, they have to know what they’re looking for. I have it looking like it’s all stock. I recommend y’all do it that way.
Good tip!
Hi Andy being following you for a while now like your videos and couldn't decide what bike to go for a z900rs or speed twin 🤔 speed twin won out thanks for your input kind regards Ben
Good choice!
While you were out riding, did someone pinch some of your other bikes? Your garage looks less crowded than normal…
@themissendenflyer - does this mean you are no longer a fan of or using the Monimoto devices?
Correct - I found having to manage two batteries, an annual subscription and a seperate fob too much of a faff on several bikes - this with it's "fit and forget" nature works better for me. Monimoto is good if you only have the one bike....
@@TheMissendenFlyer that makes sense. Also for those that cannot put the bike on a battery tender the monimoto suits best so the battery doesn't drain
Is this tracker also good to track your motorbike when it is being shipped in a truck across the U.S.?
Probably not if it's in a metal container!
Could you give me some idea how long the bikes battery would last using this device. My bike is fairly secure but I can’t fit a trickle charge. Is it days weeks or months? Just an indicator please?
Closer to weeks I’d guess….
Can i ask what tracker system did you have installed on the panigale
I had one from Biketrac on it - good tracker but expensive to buy/install and then drained the battery!
Does it draw much power from the battery
100mA/day I believe - alerts you if your battery gets low....
The question is... Will it drain the battery if you don't start it for some time? I currently have the monimoto 7 which is absolutely independent. Yes,there is a tiny £37 subscription but is also only £129. Also works well . Ideally you want to hide this on the non removable panels of the bike,no way that they will find it until you found them .
Yes it does drain a small amount - way less than my more industrial grade trackers though and it gives you plenty of warning before your battery gets too low....I find it less of a hassle than the batteries in my Monimotos/keyfobs (+ the subs - particularly tiresone if you have more than one!)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer If it does notify you when you're battery getting empty that should be enough... The network could be a concern as well. You mentioned it's only 4G if not mistaken
Thanks for the vid 👍😊
My pleasure!
Apple AirTags - three tags for £99. I have a Monimoto on my new GS - which I’ve owned for years (thank you TMF), but the other two (and my e-bike) are covered with Air Tags. No Alarm as such, but you always know where the tags are via the app on your iPhone, and they’re easy to hide, being not much bigger than a 50p.
Trouble is, as I understand it, they need to be near Apple phone or tablet in order to report their position - might work well in populated ares (I dunno, does it??) but in the wilds of Scotland on a tour I'm not so sure. That said as many layers of security as you can are good, so the more the better.....
Problem with airtags - it send message to nearest iPhone so if it’s stolen and thief has an iPhone then he gets a message 🤔
@@MOTOUK1 more than that, it’ll notify the thief they are being tracked. It’s intended to stop stalking.
How will a Company provide long term service without subscription cost? Sim / data plan cost money, app updated and maintenance cost as well. Cannot understand thier website description calling the sim card provided a "special sim" can someone elaborate?
I wish I knew!
Is there no cost for the 4g surely it has a SIM card
Nope - no SIM - that’s the brilliant thing about Sizzapp versus say Monimoto like I used to use (which required you to top up the sim every year….). I don’t know how they do it as presumably there is sim functionality in the device. Really is “fit and forget”.
@@TheMissendenFlyer well worth it then ! And for me the bonus is you can easily swap it over to a new bike without any charges as most will insist on there engineers doing it for a fee
There is a SIM card installed into the device, but there are no any fees ever, all the duties we cover by ourselves. For users it is an one time payment and life-time licence.
@@Sizzapp the only thing then would be regarding network coverage I guess but that’s the same with any tracker
@@junkie1128 of course, SIZZAPP needs the network to send the data to the SIZZAPP mobile app. But in case somewhere is no network coverage, the SIZZAPP will still work and record all the data and send it to you as soon as the network is available again.
How's the miss getting on with the bike? Or has it been to cold... 🥶
See todays video!
Don't know if this has been asked, but is there a way of disabling the unit for ferries or Eurotunnel?
Err I dunno…..why would you need to do that…?
@@TheMissendenFlyer just thinking on a cross channel ferry or Eurotunnel, I didn't want the endless notifications of unauthorized movement
Hi, can you still charge your battery up with the sizzapp still in place. Won't effect the sizzapp etc when you charge battery up? Or do you have to remove the sizzapp?
Yes no problem
Might be useful for a car (can be easier to hide) assuming the signal goes through the bodywork, especially the low battery warning, can the alert levels be changed on this feature? TIA 🤔
If you change bikes can you reuse it with the next bike? Great vid as always👍
Sure can!
Hello great material very nice filmed ;)
Thank you very much!
I use the Monimoto on my bike and car. Would be good to see a comparison between the Sizzapp & Monimoto.
Do you still recommend the moni moto tracker?
This one suits me better hence why I changed….less faff with the key fob and it’s “fit and forget”…
I guess there are a number of pros and cons to one of these devices, and let's be fair about it, if a professional bike thief wants your bike,it's going to go. I would spend a little more time trying to locate it somewhere a little more tricky for a thief to find, but that's bike dependant. For £220 one-off payment with no monthly subscription fee, I think it's definitely worth a punt. One more layer of security can't hurt anyone this day and age!! You have a more chance of getting your pride and joy back with one fitted than without 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Agreed 100% Matt.....
Apple Air Tags seem much simpler and cheaper to use, and won’t drain your battery. And also easier to hide on your bike too.
Yes but they rely on a thief having an iPhone, iPad or Mac
@@sergentcolon1 or someone who is passing with an iPhone which highly likely.
@@thornscoop2 a lot of thieves stick bikes in shipping containers so no signal can get out though.
@@sergentcolon1 That would also stop any other tracking system working too.
Apple tag is useless if there is no one around with an apple product, especially out in the country side
I'm interested to know where all your bikes are too. Where have they all gone?
On the driveway so I had room to film.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Phew! Thought you'd had a clear out. 😂
@TheMissendenFlyer
My Insurance only covers my bike if it is in the locked garage or out away from home.
If the bike is outside my house and stolen within 500 metres it is not covered.
Are yours? 🤔
Yes to no recurring charges!
I have trackers on my bikes, prefer ones that don’t wire direct to the battery for reasons, most thief’s will lift the seat and cut any wiring to the battery other than the main 2 leads. While I do see a benefit with devices like these is the battery monitoring via phone app but the main one could be use this as a bluff for the thief to cut if stolen and have another battery tracker onboard like Monimoto, that way the thief thinks they have disabled but hey Ho you have it still tracked. Not trackers are not cheap so to have 2 on each of your bikes is an expensive thing. Maybe I need to come up with a dummy box with wires coming out to the battery 🤔😆
Moniomot 7 subscription year -£36 and the datertool tracker £250 for 3 years
How much power does it draw and so how long can it be left without draining the battery? Good that it has a low battery alert. Will that alert be received with the App switched off?
Yes I received an alert once since I had this installed, was after about 4 weeks and gave me plenty of warnbinbg to get the bike on charge before the next ride. Of course it does drain some power (thats the disadvantage of all wired in trackers) but it seems to last longer than the Datatool tracker I have on my GS for example.
Nice and simple .
Can it be detected by thieves ?
The Moni looks better as small to hide and cheaper.
Yes but you have the inconvenience of carrying the key fob seperate to your keys, the hassle of two batteries to change and the ongoing cost of the SIM subscription - I used moni for a couple of years, but for me, this is way better - just fit it and forget it...only downside is needing to ensure your batteries don't get drained (and it even warns you well before that happens...unlike my expensive trackers!).....
Was there not a TMF discount code ?
Yes - Sizzapp are now kindly offerring 10% off the price if you order using the code "TMFTRACK" when you order!
Hi Andy, my only concern is the bike battery, how long does this operate before impacting the starting ability of the bike.
My garage doesn’t have a power source, so I can’t use a charger. I’m using the Mini Moto you recommended a few years ago.
Are you still using yours on the other bikes ?
Regards, Colin
I prefer this - which is why I swapped, I like the "fit and forget" nature of it - no fob to carry around seperate to your keys, no SIM subscription...just easier to manage. Only downside is potential for battery drainage but that seems minimal so far - compared to my "heavy duty" trackers - and it alerts me well before low battery is an issue - you can of course hide the tracker (this was only a demo of how to fit).....
Colin , another TH-cam tester, tested the battery drain, and it worked out to be point 1v per day.. So over 10 days its 1v loss from the battery... or 3 volts per month....
Seems a decent device and hiding it better and the wiring would make it a really good device . Be good on the car also. But don't be letting the Mrs have the app 😮😮😮 😁👍
It looks like a good product and could easily be better hidden with extended wiring to somewhere other than directly to the battery. We installed a relay to a permanent live feed but it drained the battery in a couple of weeks so I moved it to an ignition switched live. I guess the same could be done with the Sizapp, if necessary, as it would presumably re-register itself to the network every time the ignition was switched on. Can you tell us what the quiescent current drain is as it is easy to calculate how long you will get before the battery is getting low?
Richard
I don't know what it is I'm afraid (Sizzapp will know) - I know mine lasts abput 3/4 weeks before I get an alert from the device reminding me to connect my charger.
One guy on youtube monitored the battery voltage over a week of non use, His battery lost .7v (point seven) over a week, so thats .1 v drain per day or 1v per 10 days being left idle.....
Scott the Goldwing Guru has done a similar video & covered the battery drain.... th-cam.com/video/go5Zli5okL4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GoldwingDocs
Where are all your other bikes Andy? Hope they haven’t been nicked! Happy New Year, by the way.
Outside to make way for filming in the garage....
10:00 flips up internal sun visor to reveal more sunglasses 😄
so if your bike gets stolen, how do you get the data to the police?
Well you can give it to them - but somehow I doubt they’d be interested!
Hiya Mr Flyer. 👋
Im not one to normally comment but watch and enjoy all your videos. My question is slightly of topic but im looking for a bar across my garage door and I noticed you have one to protect your bikes. What make is it????
TIA
Jim. 🙂👍
Image4Security guardsman barrier - see the link in my description.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thankyou very much.