Caught up with both. Allen and Asta (their place in their respective stories are quite similar and taking all that Allen is used more with the plot of the story compared to Asta) D.Gray-Man and Black Clover since you've brought it up do seem similar in some ways just that asta has life opening for him and slowly give him what he wants While Allen is losing more and more and life seems to be closing for him as he loses what he had regained So far that's how they seem
Black clover is not good... haven't watched the anime but I've read every chapter. It's entertaining, not good. Anime to anime d gray man isn't crazy but the manga is wild at this point. Black clover is extremely mid. Predictable, overdone, nothing new. D gray man starts out kinda similarly but grows very strongly.
You’re right about Komui, I did forget about him. To be fair, Komui doesn’t exactly play a massive role in the first 50 chapters so I’m not really frustrated I forgot about him. Also the Asian branch only appears at the very end of the last arc I read, and they were Japanese, not Chinese.
@@WalkingTheShelf No, Asian branch literally full of Chinese people, who is the Japanese you're talking about? Komui is also superb character, but it seems you for some reason made video about manga you didn't even finish to read, what I don't understand, like, calling dgm Peak shounen while you didn't even reach major arcs and character development, so your impression ended up about just about very surface of everything?
@@ZaytsinaYolka you’re getting pissy because I didn’t read the entire manga? That’s beyond silly. It’s a first impressions video on a manga I make very clear that I didn’t finish all the way. Tamper your expectations to what the video is actually about, rather than what you want the video to be.
@@WalkingTheShelf I'm going to say the Asian branch is based in China. Japan in the story is not explored until the Noahs Ark arc. I assume by now you've probably caught up with the manga.
@@WalkingTheShelf The Asian branch does have Chinese people though. Bak is a great example. I know there are many other's, But I forget them by this point. I was caught up, but that was months ago. But there are a lot of prevalent Chinese characters like that old guy besides bookmen. And other's I'm probably also forgetting
You’ll see later way the Millennium earl is one (if not the) best written villain and how interesting the Black Order will become. I hope you’ll make an update video when you have read everything !
No manga has moved me more than DGM so thank you so much for talking about it ! I'm very biased since i was first reading as a kid, only stopping because the Fallen genuinely scared me so i would read the rewinding town over and over (kinda ironic lol). From characters to the worldbuilding to the power system with the akumas and the noah family, it's such an underrated gem i am so happy to see more and more videos on it ! I also can't wait to see you discover the depht of the Earl, his character ripped my heart tbh in the latest arc, and the way the story become more and more complex. Again, thank you so much for your video and i hope this manga makes you as connected as i am with it
I personally love D Gray Man, it has such a unique lore that not many people will get into because it comes into play later in the story. Unfortunately, most people won’t get into it because the manga is so slow to update and the anime just hasn’t been updated in years. I feel this series would benefit from a fmab treatment
@@WalkingTheShelf The main issue with the anime is pacing, dgm fell back on filler so it wouldn't catch up with the manga and hallow was too short for the amount of content it was supposed to cover. I disagree when it comes to the studio though, TMS is an extremely big name and has put out some of the most well known animes/cartoons
You didn't fully understood the point of Mater arc, it seems. It was introduction and explanation of conflict of views between Kanda and Allen. Which later was resolved in Second Exorcist arc, when Allen eventually saved Alma and Kanda, freeing them from Order. Though, funnily, readers can only appreciate hints and foreshadowing about Kanda's past only with knowledge they gain later, but for me it's actually what makes a good writing, when you can reread previous chapters and be like 'Oh, I see why characters behave like that'. Even Allen's sacrificial nature was fully explained only in recent chapters, turns out, it wasn't only because of guilt for turning Mana in Akuma, it started even before what. So a lot of things packed in interaction of Allen and Kanda in Mater arc, so it's one of my fave arc actually. And Kanda wasn't even shown to be cold? He lets out his emotions pretty easily, and it's visible he is actually caring person. He was even okay with giving Lala and Guzol more time before things turned to worst, and never forced Allen to stop Lala in the end, when there was no danger, even trying to console him in his own way. He is clearly have priorities, which is his survival, and his fellow exorcists. He was angry at Allen because of what, because Allen was willing to sacrifice himself, not because of the mission. Calling him coldhearted typical archetype character seems to be a joke to me. Or you just didn't paid any attention to him at all, to think about him like that.
You obviously have read more of D.Gray-Man but you seem to expect me to have the same level of knowledge about the future of their character arcs as you. That’s not how it works, I can only describe their characters as I see them for the first 50 chapters. I understood the arc just fine. It just wasn’t that interesting & pales in comparison to most of the other arcs that I read. Kanda is a seemingly cold hearted character (using it as a façade to cover up some obvious trauma) in the chapters that I talked about, if he mellows out later than I’ll find that out when I get to it.
@@WalkingTheShelf How the heck Kanda is cold if he is very emotional and pretty vocal about it? What's your definition of cold? He is rude bastard, but he is no way cold.
@@ZaytsinaYolka that’s what I mean by cold. He is seemingly callous but I do mention that it’s obvious that he cares. His cold & callous attitude is a façade.
D Gray Man had been one of my favorite shounens for a "long time". Allen Walker was/is the ideal righteous protagonist any shounen ever had. I would say there are other examples today, but his good nature was so touching. No Manga before gave me so much chills and brought me to tears (attack on the headquarters for example). But! At some point i really lost sight of the series, because of the very large time release shifts of volumes in our country (at least). I also found it a pity that the tone of the series changed completely at some point. There where more comedic panels IN emotional scenes and the Art Style got more lighter and had less the gothic nature of the previous volumes/chapters (so it lost a lot of atmosphere in my view). So overall, i would say its one of the best shounens but not the best shounen (for me). But, tbf, i didnt wrote the newest chapters because i thought once a time "yeah i wait til many chapters came out so i can read through them later", and yeah i lost track on that. Anyway, sorry for the long comments. Its a very good video! :D
I can understand that point of view. Having to wait a long time really hit me hard with Noragami, the author was sick so it was super understandable but it was kinda difficult jumping back in after so long. I’m loving D. Gray-Man but I’m not looking forward to the hiatuses lol.
Ghost of Mater’s writing went over your head, read the Artificial Exorcists arc and then go back to it. Its actually an amazing arc. Lala and Guzol’s story also moved me a lot, more so than Meruem and Komugi despite being so early on.
That’s just your bias speaking. I went into more significant detail on that arc than with many others, so I’m gonna deny any notion of the arc going over my head. It’s cool that the dynamic between lala and Guzol moved you, but it would be hard for them to be more forgettable to me. I understood perfectly what the author was going for, it just didn’t interest me throughout the entire arc.
@@WalkingTheShelf Lala and Guzol’s story was sad af and the play that it may have been based on shouldn’t change that. I’m just saying, btw it will automatically go over your head because you haven’t gotten to the arc I’m referring to, many chapters later where we get strong parallels to these two minor characters. Theres a reason why Ghost of Mater is Kanda’s arc…
I think it’ll be cool to see your change of perspective on the « archetype » characters. I didn’t really like Kanda and Lenalee at first but it’s not the case anymore, especially for Kanda !! I love Road too haha, I think you might change your take on her too later 😌
I am glad you checked out D Gray Man. It is a weird series imo. I do like it very much tho. Next arc is gonna be fire for you. Allen Walker is going to get better and better. So is Linalee. And Earl lmao
More coming in the future. Every couple of arcs that I read I’ll make a video until I’m caught up, then still some videos diving a little bit deeper after I’m caught up.
D gray man does an amazing job at captivating the religious aspects and i feel l fell like it did the M.Earl and God dynamic better than bleach's Aizen and Reio (signifying lucifer and God's dynamic Millennial Earl plays an amazing job at being like satan/lucifer one who refuses to be ruled and live under God so he chooses his ways and does the opposite of what God does you can see Allan Walker departing or loosing fate in God after a few chapters and loosing everything he regained such as his powers,self ect.. And that's thanks to the millennial Earl that we get to see an arc of such with Allan And this is coming from someone that adores bleach with it being my 2nd favourite shonen manga oat i honestly feel like despite bleach being made 4 years earlier DGM did a better job and has a better lore overall W vid tho
you haven't even scratched the surface of what DGM is, keep reading my guy, there is a lot more for you to appreciate if you decide to catch up to where the manga currently is
I think you got bad responses to this video because you're far too early in to really review dgm. I get the point of an early impressions review but it kind of only works for more predictable series inherently, which makes it extremely ironic when some of your criticism seems like you're expecting it to be predictable. No hate for the concept! I just think you created a catch 22 there. There aren't many people who talk about dgm on TH-cam so it will be kind of disappointing to a lot of people to see someone review it based on only 50 chapters: and actually this is what I thought about with your description of Crowley's introduction despite you really enjoying it! Essentially, what these arcs do isn't just introduce characters and their personality but they're all building up the themes or central conflict for the rest of the series, which is with the order and how exactly they should be fighting. Allen is shown seeing the tormented souls in the akuma, Crowley's shown falling in love with an akuma, the Lala arc shows them fighting over taking back innocence when it is essentially killing a sentient being with her own loved ones, and of course Suman Dark shows the order's way of recruiting plus the need to keep relatives in the dark about even exorcists' deaths and corpses has led to more suffering when Tyki Mikk takes advantage of it. So describing anything as episodic in it is a bit weird. I think this is especially a natural impression for people since the anime covered so much extra material while they waited for new chapters from Hoshino, so it feels EVEN MORE episodic there and then cuts out before the plot has time to come together. But I don't think the early arcs in the manga timeline are as episodic as it seems at first, later on Kanda's flashbacks are built up to an arc, Crowley's motivation by the akuma comes back, Allen's eye is used in pivotal moments plus we now feel more and more mystery about what that curse actually is(still not revealed but it's far more complicated than it seems). Lenalee's past is revealed and her motivation will probably change, Allen's motivation changes massively as he develops, and you get more and more of the noahs' perspectives starting from the Noah's Ark arc, which is... More or less I think where the ongoing plot and tone are really set for the rest of it. You're not really seeing why they're great antagonists because you don't get their pov until the exorcists' position is more complicated. It's important to note that dgm is currently at chapter 249, so that means about the latter half is where the plot really heads off, according to Hoshino she's up to halfway through completing it, we don't know how likely it is she'd be able to from that but I believe she has the ability to finish it since she did what most big mangaka haven't, paced herself before her disabilities became too bad to draw, relearned EVERYTHING she does with her other hand around midway, and is now using a lot of digital art in pretty advanced ways compared with most mangaka(or even all??? I don't know of any mangaka who uses so much software so creatively and it doesn't really look like she's trying to be a digital artist if you know what I mean, she does different art media such as collages and stuff I think and also has some much simpler short stories for personally motivated stuff like her cat passing away). Basically I hope she'll keep going because I don't really know about any mangaka with as healthy a career progression with their disabilities than hers and think it's beautiful in itself. I mean. She relearned how to draw it with her non dominant hand and became better. I think that's amazing.
I really lost interest when I got Kandas back story. I thought the whole thing was contrived and I felt nothing and Kanda was my favorite character, I also thought they rushed the characters that where just introduced (don't want to spoil but if you read that arc you'll know what I mean). I also disliked that art change looks too pretty and not a gothic, I think the previous art work looked a lot more fitting for the story and characters.
Black Clover leagues above this doo doo
Black clover is certainly a manga
Lolnope
@@ZaytsinaYolka hater. Black is underrated af. Maybe go actually watch it and you’ll know
Caught up with both.
Allen and Asta
(their place in their respective stories are quite similar and taking all that Allen is used more with the plot of the story compared to Asta)
D.Gray-Man and Black Clover since you've brought it up do seem similar in some ways just that asta has life opening for him and slowly give him what he wants
While Allen is losing more and more and life seems to be closing for him as he loses what he had regained
So far that's how they seem
Black clover is not good... haven't watched the anime but I've read every chapter. It's entertaining, not good. Anime to anime d gray man isn't crazy but the manga is wild at this point. Black clover is extremely mid. Predictable, overdone, nothing new. D gray man starts out kinda similarly but grows very strongly.
D.Gray-Man is a mystery thriller manga disguised as a battle manga. Hold your horses with the Millennium Earl, he’s a subtle and enigmatic character.
i will never ever forget about you D-Grayman
'Lenalee is only member of Ordrer who seems to be Chinese'. The whole Asian branch: are we a joke to you? Also literally Komui, her brother.
You’re right about Komui, I did forget about him. To be fair, Komui doesn’t exactly play a massive role in the first 50 chapters so I’m not really frustrated I forgot about him.
Also the Asian branch only appears at the very end of the last arc I read, and they were Japanese, not Chinese.
@@WalkingTheShelf No, Asian branch literally full of Chinese people, who is the Japanese you're talking about? Komui is also superb character, but it seems you for some reason made video about manga you didn't even finish to read, what I don't understand, like, calling dgm Peak shounen while you didn't even reach major arcs and character development, so your impression ended up about just about very surface of everything?
@@ZaytsinaYolka you’re getting pissy because I didn’t read the entire manga? That’s beyond silly. It’s a first impressions video on a manga I make very clear that I didn’t finish all the way. Tamper your expectations to what the video is actually about, rather than what you want the video to be.
@@WalkingTheShelf I'm going to say the Asian branch is based in China. Japan in the story is not explored until the Noahs Ark arc. I assume by now you've probably caught up with the manga.
@@WalkingTheShelf The Asian branch does have Chinese people though.
Bak is a great example. I know there are many other's, But I forget them by this point. I was caught up, but that was months ago.
But there are a lot of prevalent Chinese characters like that old guy besides bookmen. And other's I'm probably also forgetting
Reading chapter after chapter when Allen leaves the order is CRAZY. It’s a plot twist in a plot twist.
You’ll see later way the Millennium earl is one (if not the) best written villain and how interesting the Black Order will become. I hope you’ll make an update video when you have read everything !
The Earl is my goat fr
No manga has moved me more than DGM so thank you so much for talking about it !
I'm very biased since i was first reading as a kid, only stopping because the Fallen genuinely scared me so i would read the rewinding town over and over (kinda ironic lol).
From characters to the worldbuilding to the power system with the akumas and the noah family, it's such an underrated gem i am so happy to see more and more videos on it !
I also can't wait to see you discover the depht of the Earl, his character ripped my heart tbh in the latest arc, and the way the story become more and more complex.
Again, thank you so much for your video and i hope this manga makes you as connected as i am with it
I personally love D Gray Man, it has such a unique lore that not many people will get into because it comes into play later in the story. Unfortunately, most people won’t get into it because the manga is so slow to update and the anime just hasn’t been updated in years. I feel this series would benefit from a fmab treatment
Both of the anime adaptations seemed pretty bad so I’d be really interested in adaptation by a big name studio known for consistent quality.
@@WalkingTheShelf The main issue with the anime is pacing, dgm fell back on filler so it wouldn't catch up with the manga and hallow was too short for the amount of content it was supposed to cover. I disagree when it comes to the studio though, TMS is an extremely big name and has put out some of the most well known animes/cartoons
You didn't fully understood the point of Mater arc, it seems. It was introduction and explanation of conflict of views between Kanda and Allen. Which later was resolved in Second Exorcist arc, when Allen eventually saved Alma and Kanda, freeing them from Order. Though, funnily, readers can only appreciate hints and foreshadowing about Kanda's past only with knowledge they gain later, but for me it's actually what makes a good writing, when you can reread previous chapters and be like 'Oh, I see why characters behave like that'. Even Allen's sacrificial nature was fully explained only in recent chapters, turns out, it wasn't only because of guilt for turning Mana in Akuma, it started even before what. So a lot of things packed in interaction of Allen and Kanda in Mater arc, so it's one of my fave arc actually.
And Kanda wasn't even shown to be cold? He lets out his emotions pretty easily, and it's visible he is actually caring person. He was even okay with giving Lala and Guzol more time before things turned to worst, and never forced Allen to stop Lala in the end, when there was no danger, even trying to console him in his own way. He is clearly have priorities, which is his survival, and his fellow exorcists. He was angry at Allen because of what, because Allen was willing to sacrifice himself, not because of the mission. Calling him coldhearted typical archetype character seems to be a joke to me. Or you just didn't paid any attention to him at all, to think about him like that.
You obviously have read more of D.Gray-Man but you seem to expect me to have the same level of knowledge about the future of their character arcs as you. That’s not how it works, I can only describe their characters as I see them for the first 50 chapters.
I understood the arc just fine. It just wasn’t that interesting & pales in comparison to most of the other arcs that I read.
Kanda is a seemingly cold hearted character (using it as a façade to cover up some obvious trauma) in the chapters that I talked about, if he mellows out later than I’ll find that out when I get to it.
@@WalkingTheShelf How the heck Kanda is cold if he is very emotional and pretty vocal about it? What's your definition of cold? He is rude bastard, but he is no way cold.
@@ZaytsinaYolka that’s what I mean by cold. He is seemingly callous but I do mention that it’s obvious that he cares. His cold & callous attitude is a façade.
D Gray Man had been one of my favorite shounens for a "long time". Allen Walker was/is the ideal righteous protagonist any shounen ever had. I would say there are other examples today, but his good nature was so touching. No Manga before gave me so much chills and brought me to tears (attack on the headquarters for example).
But! At some point i really lost sight of the series, because of the very large time release shifts of volumes in our country (at least). I also found it a pity that the tone of the series changed completely at some point. There where more comedic panels IN emotional scenes and the Art Style got more lighter and had less the gothic nature of the previous volumes/chapters (so it lost a lot of atmosphere in my view).
So overall, i would say its one of the best shounens but not the best shounen (for me). But, tbf, i didnt wrote the newest chapters because i thought once a time "yeah i wait til many chapters came out so i can read through them later", and yeah i lost track on that.
Anyway, sorry for the long comments. Its a very good video! :D
I can understand that point of view. Having to wait a long time really hit me hard with Noragami, the author was sick so it was super understandable but it was kinda difficult jumping back in after so long. I’m loving D. Gray-Man but I’m not looking forward to the hiatuses lol.
Ghost of Mater’s writing went over your head, read the Artificial Exorcists arc and then go back to it. Its actually an amazing arc. Lala and Guzol’s story also moved me a lot, more so than Meruem and Komugi despite being so early on.
That’s just your bias speaking. I went into more significant detail on that arc than with many others, so I’m gonna deny any notion of the arc going over my head.
It’s cool that the dynamic between lala and Guzol moved you, but it would be hard for them to be more forgettable to me. I understood perfectly what the author was going for, it just didn’t interest me throughout the entire arc.
@@WalkingTheShelf Lala and Guzol’s story was sad af and the play that it may have been based on shouldn’t change that. I’m just saying, btw it will automatically go over your head because you haven’t gotten to the arc I’m referring to, many chapters later where we get strong parallels to these two minor characters. Theres a reason why Ghost of Mater is Kanda’s arc…
I think it’ll be cool to see your change of perspective on the « archetype » characters. I didn’t really like Kanda and Lenalee at first but it’s not the case anymore, especially for Kanda !! I love Road too haha, I think you might change your take on her too later 😌
Her (Road) design just kinda pisses me off too. I’ll try and give her more of a chance though lol
@@WalkingTheShelf Yeah I can see why. I think the Mangaka wasn’t used to draw her yet, later on she looks very cute you’ll see ^^
A D Gray man video in 2023 is always a welcome suprise
I am glad you checked out D Gray Man. It is a weird series imo. I do like it very much tho. Next arc is gonna be fire for you. Allen Walker is going to get better and better. So is Linalee. And Earl lmao
I’m excited for anything Allen Walker related at this point lol
Dude, Lenalee is a great female lead 😂
she had no real development in the first 50 chapters, which was all I read
@@WalkingTheShelf lol fair enough
Befor watching vedio. Hungry D.G-M fan here. Thanks for the meal
More coming in the future. Every couple of arcs that I read I’ll make a video until I’m caught up, then still some videos diving a little bit deeper after I’m caught up.
I fucn love Dgray man, need to get back into reading it
Slept on classic for sure
J stars is how I found out about d gray man and many other anime
Shout out J stars unfortunately it was d listed from online stores I believe
@@WalkingTheShelf yes unfortunately if jump force had a playable Allen I’d probably actually like it just bc Allen is in it
3:43 keep reading man keep reading😂
D gray man does an amazing job at captivating the religious aspects and i feel l fell like it did the M.Earl and God dynamic better than bleach's Aizen and Reio (signifying lucifer and God's dynamic
Millennial Earl plays an amazing job at being like satan/lucifer one who refuses to be ruled and live under God so he chooses his ways and does the opposite of what God does you can see Allan Walker departing or loosing fate in God after a few chapters and loosing everything he regained such as his powers,self ect..
And that's thanks to the millennial Earl that we get to see an arc of such with Allan
And this is coming from someone that adores bleach with it being my 2nd favourite shonen manga oat i honestly feel like despite bleach being made 4 years earlier DGM did a better job and has a better lore overall W vid tho
you haven't even scratched the surface of what DGM is, keep reading my guy, there is a lot more for you to appreciate if you decide to catch up to where the manga currently is
I started it last year..right now im at season 3
Better than bleach.
Bleach is my favorite shonen of all time, so I definitely disagree but I can respect the take regardless
@@WalkingTheShelf catch up, then re-read. I wanna hear your thoughts then.
Bleach suckkss
I think you got bad responses to this video because you're far too early in to really review dgm. I get the point of an early impressions review but it kind of only works for more predictable series inherently, which makes it extremely ironic when some of your criticism seems like you're expecting it to be predictable. No hate for the concept! I just think you created a catch 22 there.
There aren't many people who talk about dgm on TH-cam so it will be kind of disappointing to a lot of people to see someone review it based on only 50 chapters: and actually this is what I thought about with your description of Crowley's introduction despite you really enjoying it! Essentially, what these arcs do isn't just introduce characters and their personality but they're all building up the themes or central conflict for the rest of the series, which is with the order and how exactly they should be fighting. Allen is shown seeing the tormented souls in the akuma, Crowley's shown falling in love with an akuma, the Lala arc shows them fighting over taking back innocence when it is essentially killing a sentient being with her own loved ones, and of course Suman Dark shows the order's way of recruiting plus the need to keep relatives in the dark about even exorcists' deaths and corpses has led to more suffering when Tyki Mikk takes advantage of it. So describing anything as episodic in it is a bit weird. I think this is especially a natural impression for people since the anime covered so much extra material while they waited for new chapters from Hoshino, so it feels EVEN MORE episodic there and then cuts out before the plot has time to come together.
But I don't think the early arcs in the manga timeline are as episodic as it seems at first, later on Kanda's flashbacks are built up to an arc, Crowley's motivation by the akuma comes back, Allen's eye is used in pivotal moments plus we now feel more and more mystery about what that curse actually is(still not revealed but it's far more complicated than it seems). Lenalee's past is revealed and her motivation will probably change, Allen's motivation changes massively as he develops, and you get more and more of the noahs' perspectives starting from the Noah's Ark arc, which is... More or less I think where the ongoing plot and tone are really set for the rest of it. You're not really seeing why they're great antagonists because you don't get their pov until the exorcists' position is more complicated.
It's important to note that dgm is currently at chapter 249, so that means about the latter half is where the plot really heads off, according to Hoshino she's up to halfway through completing it, we don't know how likely it is she'd be able to from that but I believe she has the ability to finish it since she did what most big mangaka haven't, paced herself before her disabilities became too bad to draw, relearned EVERYTHING she does with her other hand around midway, and is now using a lot of digital art in pretty advanced ways compared with most mangaka(or even all??? I don't know of any mangaka who uses so much software so creatively and it doesn't really look like she's trying to be a digital artist if you know what I mean, she does different art media such as collages and stuff I think and also has some much simpler short stories for personally motivated stuff like her cat passing away). Basically I hope she'll keep going because I don't really know about any mangaka with as healthy a career progression with their disabilities than hers and think it's beautiful in itself.
I mean. She relearned how to draw it with her non dominant hand and became better. I think that's amazing.
That’s what I’ve gathered. This video is more or less a first impression video but I think the fans of the series wanted a full review
I really lost interest when I got Kandas back story. I thought the whole thing was contrived and I felt nothing and Kanda was my favorite character, I also thought they rushed the characters that where just introduced (don't want to spoil but if you read that arc you'll know what I mean). I also disliked that art change looks too pretty and not a gothic, I think the previous art work looked a lot more fitting for the story and characters.
I'm curious does anyone else find Johnny Gill like REALLY annoying. Like I love D. Gray Man, but i genuinely can't stand him 😭
He wasn’t really too crucial as far as I got tbh
@@WalkingTheShelfin the most recent arcs he becomes a more crucial character that I kinda wish got swapped with somebody else. You’ll see
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