One amendment to make: we're keeping the no-FC requirement for "S" grade (the video was using an incorrect table for this). Also, please give us your feedback, either on github: github.com/ppy/osu/discussions/25810 of forums: osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1858702?n=1
I think there should be some kind of indicator that make "fc" score stand out since it is one of the big part of osu standard. Maybe change the font of the "S" grade or add a "+" sign could work. Or just apply it to every other grade. It would be funny to see a D rank fc as D+. just my opinion though
I love how high quality and straightforward these explanation videos are. they are entertaining and even for a noob like me I know what is changing and why really well.
4:45 as an aside to the early hit change; this is important mostly because the followcircle would never be able to track you if the sliderball hadn't appeared yet. if you hit the sliderhead and started following the slider path early, you'd completely miss the ball, and potentially sliderticks, because of your timing misread. lack of late hit leniency is even more annoying, and i'm very happy they've changed it in this release. huge thanks to the dev team for their work on it.
As a much newer player, I love playing Lazer. It just feels very comfortable and fun, the UI is fresh and clean, the newer "popping" hitsound tickles my brain in a way other hitsounds don't, it's easy to download maps online right from within the client, nothing else needed... I immediately felt something different when I switched to Lazer, but got used to it quickly. I feel like a lot of people will have trouble adjusting purely because it's just... not what they've gotten used to playing over several years with the game. But I hope this will at least satisfy people who are open to change and just looking for some quality of life adjustments and minor tweaks. It definitely won't satisfy the diehard oldbies who don't want change, but that's ok. Lazer feels like such a complete, super polished package that could make this game a lot more approachable to a whole new audience. Appreciate all the updates!!
I thought in-game map downloads are only temporarily enabled for everyone on dev builds of lazer (contrary to donator-only on stable), or did I pull that out of my rear?
@@kamild_ From what I remembered it will be freely available now, same as many other parts of the web experience that runs natively in Lazer instead of browser
as a osu!taiko main player i can say that i am very HYPED for pp score submissions to finally release in Lazer, i've tried lazer to play taiko and i've been enjoying A LOT the argon skin (pro) for taiko. Enjoy the last moments of this year ppy and the dev team we love you all, you've been doing an amazing job, see you in lazer 2024
seems the taiko experience is very different to the mania one with that skin, i play mania and when i tried it on lazer i had a terrible experience. my friends who play mania mostly hold similar opinions to me too, and my friends who play taiko have the same opinions as you
@@Konomi_io yeah, i played at high level in std, taiko and mania, and for Lazer i prefer Taiko and Std, the mania skin is terrible to play, for me it's just too bright and tiny... and we should be able to change maybe the shape of the notes...
The slider changes look really good! The ability to change mod multipliers on the fly is super powerful, makes balancing the game proactively much much easier and I'm sure will help in the future.
The update seems great and I can't stress enough how important it is for everyone watching this to actually go and play lazer for the next two weeks, to give feedback and help the developers in the implementation of the pp system ❤❤
Just found my tablet in a drawer and felt like popping circles for the first time in like two years. Saw the lazer build in the downloads and it made me excited about playing just as much as I was back when I was starting out. And, how should I put this... OH MY GOD! I just love the UI changes! You can customize the gameplay hud (pp counter finally), you can download maps directly from client, you can change tablet area right in client, new playing mods, and probably a lot more features yet to be discovered. Everything feels so modern, fresh and seamless! Thank you so much, such a great job! Can't wait to play all my maps again.
idc what anyone else says. no matter what my opinion is on future gameplay changes are, once ranked submission is live on lazer, i am doing my full import to make sure i have everything from stable converted over and i am never touching osu!stable (aside from maybe tourneys before they move over to lazer). the game has so many new amazing features that we used to have to use 3rd party applications for and now its just perfectly contained within the game. i love doing my skill pushing on lazer already so moving over all activity there is something that ive been waiting for for a while!!!
from what i have played recently, lazer has been a big improvement over stable for a LONG time, and it isn't even close. Yeah some things can still be improved but the new systems are just a cut above the old ones!
I agree that lazer is much better than stable now, but for mappers stable will be a first pick, since thera are still mamy features from stable that have to be implemented in lazer. Even the handdrawing tool is kinda useless for most mappers, since we already can do any slidershapes we want, although it its yoo soon to say that , because it needs more exploration.
@@insid3r_90 while absolutely true for long-time mappers, I have a feeling all new mappers will be starting out on lazer from this point on. They don't have the deep ingrained knowledge of how stable editor works so they don't have anything holding them back from taking advantage of the extra tools lazer does have. I know that whenever I start mapping (planning on at least dabbling) i will be using lazer
These slider changes are huge! Things like slider streams immediately feel much more playable on Lazer now, it used to feel like you either SS'd or missed the entire pattern with no in between, now the gameplay feels much more in line with stable.
my favorite thing about lazer is that it gives players more options to play for fun. By that i mean that in stable, a lot of players get shoehorned into caring too much about pp because there isnt a lot of "for fun" mods or ways to play that are rewarding, but lazer reminds us that osu is a flexible game that you can play however you want (within the rules of course)
I would love to see in-built practice difficulty creation or unranked 'start-from-XXX-combo-with-100/200-combo' mod to support FL players. Honestly FL is such a unique and deep mod, I really hope it won't be left by the wayside.
As someone who’s new to osu (since June of 2023) I’m happy with lazer a lot more than stable. It’s easier to learn and more aesthetically pleasing. I’m happy with it as long as note locking isn’t added :/
Just tried lazer again. wow, just wow. The game's performance is MINT! *I love the UI changes!* I haven't tried mania, but I'm so happy with what you've been doing! ! !
I've never in my life seen a dev (team) that is this transparent to and cares this much about their community. If i could choose any person in the universe as the lead dev of osu i wouldn't change a thing. Much love and keep it up, you're doing gods work :))
Bruh, are you new or something? Pepe is lazy ass the most don't give a f dev ever. He stoped caring about osu 10+ years ago, moderation is shit, he promised lazer YEARS AGO and still haven't delivered.
peppy looks genuinely excited for this and the end-of-year release. love to see it. that sliderhead leniency is definitely a game-changer in a good way. a bit of feedback on the "spectator mode" screen: i think it will look cleaner if this entire thing can somehow be condensed into a slightly bigger-than-usual notification card. and when you want to stop spectating, just move your mouse to the top-right corner and click 'Stop Spectating' on the reappearing card. and hopefully, the followcircle will finally be considered in SR calculation sometime in the future.
Very good changes, I expected the video to be done in terms of changes and then realised I was only in the middle. I dont think there needs to be an indicator for a FC, maybe only for perfect combo like previously in Stable. The ScoreV2 scoring is already very good at showing how close a score is to an FC (if you know the multipliers)
I've been playing lazer for a pretty long time now and I gotta say: the slider changes are the one thing this game needed to make it ready for ranked play. Compared to stable, it was very frustrating how the game was created around being able to click early and these changes, in my opinion, are the best thing the game could have received. Hitting a 50/100 on a fast slider and not missing is just a wonderful change.
you know what im missing in the "difficulty adjust" mod? that you cant just put in "x bpm" and it adjusts to that. it would make it 50 times easier swapping inbetween maps for seemless gameplay
Great changes! The logout thing could be a bit annoying for people using multiple devices (like a phone and their main PC) but otherwise this all seems great. I’m excited to see lazer finally in a ranked state :D
I hope they change how the touchscreen mod works so players that play by dragging a stylus on the screen don't get their pp nerf. Only when the cursor teleports is when that mod should activate.
nice, i love these dev vlog, make me feel apreciated as a player, really hope to see more peoples on lazer so there's more lobby at my skill level in multiplayer
What else is there to match? If you're talking about BPM hacks, then it's an absolute no in the short term, as porting literal bugs in stable over isn't something the dev team is willing to do
@@LongNguyen-dh3bm I think we ought to have these "bpm hacks" as features. Stops and teleports are required for any loved SV map to play as intended and frankly I think what we have in stable isn't as powerful as it could be. Take a hint from Quaver for instance. What you're calling a hack is a *feature* in any other VSRG.
They can be officially supported features, but I'd rather see official support for 0x SV or negative SV, rather than having to do absolutely arcane hacks just to make barlines move backwards. Basically, official support = possible, making BPM hacks work = no
@@mekafinchi Since those maps rely on very obscure and complex stable mechanics, I'm not sure maintaining compatibility is a thing that can be done easily. In all cases, stable is still there to enjoy the map at least
can't wait for pp on lazer. i get much better fps on lazer than stable because i am on linux, and i have really liked the changes made to scoring, sliders, and especially notelock
Thank you for making videos that explain all the changes. I've been playing osu! for 9 months but I've been spending most of my time on it for the last three months and I love it. I love the classic version but I also love Lazer! I don't know if this really helps you, but I was already feeling good about it 1 month ago x), and it's all getting better. I'm not the best player but I really feel that the gameplay is already finished. I like what Lazer brings to the table and the only thing that really made me stay with the classic version was the presence of pp (which rhymes with the enrichment of your Osu! profile etc...). However, if Lazer publishes scores, pp and manages rankings on the official site, there's nothing to keep me on the old version x)
Like to see Lazer moving a good direction here. I'm gonna wait until pp releases to make sure bugs can be resolved but then I'm definitely trying to move to lazer
imo, lazer is great, and the part wich might became insane for the game is the playlists. We need more on that, it can open the game in so much ways, improvised tournament, fun map packs, good ranked map pack in game, just sharing a good moment between players etc (and dont forget the potential streams/videos about a streamer trying to get beaten by the community or thing like that. It can become such a good place ^^ anyway, insane update for a kinda old player like me x)
i think it'd be interesting to look at having grade cutoffs have a correlation with how much pp a score is worth (out of the total possible). i know it's a lot more complicated and such but it is a little odd to me that they can be so far apart
I just came back to try out lazer yesterday out of curiosity and the gameplay just feels miles better than stable imo, trying to get used to the new sliders but I’m so excited to switch
I like synesthesia, and it helps a lot on sightread plays, but I'm not convinced it has any place within normal scoring. Pattern reading should come from player skill and experience, not a mod that does all the work for you.
From what they said, 0.8x seems to be the lowest that they will push it, and who knows, they _might_ revert it eventually if the general consensus is in favor of 1.0x. Might as well start low so people might have a lower score with it now, but it can be buffed if people don't think its unfair.
Ngl this is looking great, pp not being almost entirely dependent on combo is an amazing thing. I dont know how ill like the fact that sliders have accuracy based on timing now but i can just learn to play better so losing a bit of pp from acc wont be that bad
i always found competing with years of old scores under the same rules to be most appealing thing about osu, I just never thought about it before now because it's been the same for so long. I wouldn't ever play lazer just on principle bc I don't think it's fair to be competing against the same scores but under different rules, having any advantage simply because i joined later even if my score isn't better.
The slider changes actually look amazing. I never put much thought into why some short (repeating) sliders feel so unintuitive to play, but the fact that you basically had to hit them early is most likely it.
One of the things I think would help to get more users over is better skin support. Last time I checked there was a lot of "coming soon" messages in the skin editor. Mainly song select area and such. Argon definetly helped me move over to Lazer, but I think better skin support would make even more people willing to make the move.
I don't really play osu anymore but as far as I know it's the only community-driven game that stayed in competent hands while getting popular. I haven't seen a single change in lazer that's not a straight up improvement. Keep it up.
My Osu account is from 2009, but I started in 2008. Back then I used a tracker mouse and big tubular monitors. Love this game. But I only play touhou and miku music. And by touhou and miku I mean only touhou
Osu! Lazer should add 3D Mods considering there's so many Fps rhythm based genre, which some people like it and maybe it could be a game changer to an original osu! Gameplay
I've been playing on lazer for the last two months or so and I think I won't play stable again unless for nostalgia or something. It runs better with less issues and I would say it just feels better. Most of the issues i think lie in the ui/hud. Could not be happier with the future of osu regardless! Thank you
Honestly it was a fun ride seeing how lazer changed over the years of development. I still remember back in 2016 when lazer was just an alpha build. Great work guys :D
man i dont understand lazer without classic mod, i really hope you dont make classic unusable by reducing scores, theres a reason why 99% of scores are made with that mod on
@@DeanHerbertMooCow but why make it not usable tho? seriously every change like this makes me want to switch to stable but i cant import all the 1000 or so maps and thousands of scores cause you never gave us an option to go back
One amendment to make: we're keeping the no-FC requirement for "S" grade (the video was using an incorrect table for this). Also, please give us your feedback, either on github: github.com/ppy/osu/discussions/25810 of forums: osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1858702?n=1
Slider break S is gonna be joined by its friend, 1 miss S
Never again will we see a leaderboard starting 'A SS' :(
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I think there should be some kind of indicator that make "fc" score stand out since it is one of the big part of osu standard. Maybe change the font of the "S" grade or add a "+" sign could work. Or just apply it to every other grade. It would be funny to see a D rank fc as D+. just my opinion though
*or
I love how high quality and straightforward these explanation videos are. they are entertaining and even for a noob like me I know what is changing and why really well.
I totally agree on this! :)
Looking forward to its next release for sure.
Yeah, they show how the changes work and stuff, its nice and easy to watch.
4:45 as an aside to the early hit change; this is important mostly because the followcircle would never be able to track you if the sliderball hadn't appeared yet. if you hit the sliderhead and started following the slider path early, you'd completely miss the ball, and potentially sliderticks, because of your timing misread.
lack of late hit leniency is even more annoying, and i'm very happy they've changed it in this release. huge thanks to the dev team for their work on it.
We love ppy! Appreciate the hard work!
Pp lazer*
Amazing slider changes, that's really gonna do a lot to improve I think
As a much newer player, I love playing Lazer. It just feels very comfortable and fun, the UI is fresh and clean, the newer "popping" hitsound tickles my brain in a way other hitsounds don't, it's easy to download maps online right from within the client, nothing else needed... I immediately felt something different when I switched to Lazer, but got used to it quickly. I feel like a lot of people will have trouble adjusting purely because it's just... not what they've gotten used to playing over several years with the game. But I hope this will at least satisfy people who are open to change and just looking for some quality of life adjustments and minor tweaks. It definitely won't satisfy the diehard oldbies who don't want change, but that's ok. Lazer feels like such a complete, super polished package that could make this game a lot more approachable to a whole new audience. Appreciate all the updates!!
I thought in-game map downloads are only temporarily enabled for everyone on dev builds of lazer (contrary to donator-only on stable), or did I pull that out of my rear?
@@kamild_ From what I remembered it will be freely available now, same as many other parts of the web experience that runs natively in Lazer instead of browser
@@Zack-Strife oh that's great if true. I was afraid of getting too used to the convenience of in-game downloads :D
pp in lazer and gta 6 were the two things I thought would just remain a dream for me. Never have I been happier to be this wrong.
It was obvious that lazer would got pp play someday though.
@@Libops so was gta 6, both of which took so much time to get confirmation, it took what feels like half of my lifespan.
@@LibopsDon't underestimate the percentage of a lifetime of 10 year olds playing osu or gta
as a osu!taiko main player i can say that i am very HYPED for pp score submissions to finally release in Lazer, i've tried lazer to play taiko and i've been enjoying A LOT the argon skin (pro) for taiko. Enjoy the last moments of this year ppy and the dev team we love you all, you've been doing an amazing job, see you in lazer 2024
The argon pro skin is clean, tried it out in Taiko too love it. 2023 is coming to an end 😊
seems the taiko experience is very different to the mania one with that skin, i play mania and when i tried it on lazer i had a terrible experience. my friends who play mania mostly hold similar opinions to me too, and my friends who play taiko have the same opinions as you
@@Konomi_io yeah, i played at high level in std, taiko and mania, and for Lazer i prefer Taiko and Std, the mania skin is terrible to play, for me it's just too bright and tiny... and we should be able to change maybe the shape of the notes...
As a sub 10k player, sub 1k in the US, I have been *dying* for Lazer to finally rank. I just can’t play Stable anymore lmao
The slider changes look really good! The ability to change mod multipliers on the fly is super powerful, makes balancing the game proactively much much easier and I'm sure will help in the future.
The update seems great and I can't stress enough how important it is for everyone watching this to actually go and play lazer for the next two weeks, to give feedback and help the developers in the implementation of the pp system ❤❤
Just found my tablet in a drawer and felt like popping circles for the first time in like two years. Saw the lazer build in the downloads and it made me excited about playing just as much as I was back when I was starting out.
And, how should I put this... OH MY GOD!
I just love the UI changes! You can customize the gameplay hud (pp counter finally), you can download maps directly from client, you can change tablet area right in client, new playing mods, and probably a lot more features yet to be discovered. Everything feels so modern, fresh and seamless!
Thank you so much, such a great job! Can't wait to play all my maps again.
idc what anyone else says. no matter what my opinion is on future gameplay changes are, once ranked submission is live on lazer, i am doing my full import to make sure i have everything from stable converted over and i am never touching osu!stable (aside from maybe tourneys before they move over to lazer). the game has so many new amazing features that we used to have to use 3rd party applications for and now its just perfectly contained within the game. i love doing my skill pushing on lazer already so moving over all activity there is something that ive been waiting for for a while!!!
from what i have played recently, lazer has been a big improvement over stable for a LONG time, and it isn't even close. Yeah some things can still be improved but the new systems are just a cut above the old ones!
I agree that lazer is much better than stable now, but for mappers stable will be a first pick, since thera are still mamy features from stable that have to be implemented in lazer. Even the handdrawing tool is kinda useless for most mappers, since we already can do any slidershapes we want, although it its yoo soon to say that , because it needs more exploration.
@@insid3r_90 while absolutely true for long-time mappers, I have a feeling all new mappers will be starting out on lazer from this point on. They don't have the deep ingrained knowledge of how stable editor works so they don't have anything holding them back from taking advantage of the extra tools lazer does have. I know that whenever I start mapping (planning on at least dabbling) i will be using lazer
@@fleuphy > VINXIS
These slider changes are huge! Things like slider streams immediately feel much more playable on Lazer now, it used to feel like you either SS'd or missed the entire pattern with no in between, now the gameplay feels much more in line with stable.
thank you for your hard work peppy and all of the staffs and developers
my favorite thing about lazer is that it gives players more options to play for fun. By that i mean that in stable, a lot of players get shoehorned into caring too much about pp because there isnt a lot of "for fun" mods or ways to play that are rewarding, but lazer reminds us that osu is a flexible game that you can play however you want (within the rules of course)
ITS HAPPENING GYZE
Peppy asleep in 727 #livingthelife
Great work pepster, love your work
I didn't expect to see myself in the Online changes
Great video, lazer is super fun
I would love to see in-built practice difficulty creation or unranked 'start-from-XXX-combo-with-100/200-combo' mod to support FL players. Honestly FL is such a unique and deep mod, I really hope it won't be left by the wayside.
Ranked lazer before the end of the year my ass
As someone who’s new to osu (since June of 2023) I’m happy with lazer a lot more than stable. It’s easier to learn and more aesthetically pleasing.
I’m happy with it as long as note locking isn’t added :/
Just tried lazer again.
wow, just wow. The game's performance is MINT!
*I love the UI changes!*
I haven't tried mania, but I'm so happy with what you've been doing! ! !
I've never in my life seen a dev (team) that is this transparent to and cares this much about their community. If i could choose any person in the universe as the lead dev of osu i wouldn't change a thing. Much love and keep it up, you're doing gods work :))
Bruh, are you new or something? Pepe is lazy ass the most don't give a f dev ever. He stoped caring about osu 10+ years ago, moderation is shit, he promised lazer YEARS AGO and still haven't delivered.
peppy looks genuinely excited for this and the end-of-year release. love to see it. that sliderhead leniency is definitely a game-changer in a good way.
a bit of feedback on the "spectator mode" screen:
i think it will look cleaner if this entire thing can somehow be condensed into a slightly bigger-than-usual notification card.
and when you want to stop spectating, just move your mouse to the top-right corner and click 'Stop Spectating' on the reappearing card.
and hopefully, the followcircle will finally be considered in SR calculation sometime in the future.
where pp
Very good changes, I expected the video to be done in terms of changes and then realised I was only in the middle.
I dont think there needs to be an indicator for a FC, maybe only for perfect combo like previously in Stable.
The ScoreV2 scoring is already very good at showing how close a score is to an FC (if you know the multipliers)
I've been playing lazer for a pretty long time now and I gotta say: the slider changes are the one thing this game needed to make it ready for ranked play. Compared to stable, it was very frustrating how the game was created around being able to click early and these changes, in my opinion, are the best thing the game could have received. Hitting a 50/100 on a fast slider and not missing is just a wonderful change.
you know what im missing in the "difficulty adjust" mod? that you cant just put in "x bpm" and it adjusts to that. it would make it 50 times easier swapping inbetween maps for seemless gameplay
Great changes! The logout thing could be a bit annoying for people using multiple devices (like a phone and their main PC) but otherwise this all seems great. I’m excited to see lazer finally in a ranked state :D
I am SO awestruck that you can **FINALLY** freehand draw sliders THANK YOU peppy + the team y’all deserve the best
That's possible since the previous release. Where have you been!?
2:01 I actually used it and missclicked a lot by not hitting the mod itself, appreciate the change
these slider changes are so massive, the fact that the short sliders would cause you to miss hitting late bugged me so much
I hope they change how the touchscreen mod works so players that play by dragging a stylus on the screen don't get their pp nerf. Only when the cursor teleports is when that mod should activate.
A button to import all settings from stable, so lazer doesnt lag or anything would be cool
nice, i love these dev vlog, make me feel apreciated as a player, really hope to see more peoples on lazer so there's more lobby at my skill level in multiplayer
These slider leniency changes are a big improvement!
0:07 wow i cant believe peppy slept for 0hr 00min
I do hope mania SV gets fixed to match stable sooner rather than later
What else is there to match? If you're talking about BPM hacks, then it's an absolute no in the short term, as porting literal bugs in stable over isn't something the dev team is willing to do
@@LongNguyen-dh3bm I think we ought to have these "bpm hacks" as features. Stops and teleports are required for any loved SV map to play as intended and frankly I think what we have in stable isn't as powerful as it could be. Take a hint from Quaver for instance.
What you're calling a hack is a *feature* in any other VSRG.
They can be officially supported features, but I'd rather see official support for 0x SV or negative SV, rather than having to do absolutely arcane hacks just to make barlines move backwards.
Basically, official support = possible, making BPM hacks work = no
@@LongNguyen-dh3bm Exactly. I don't want to lose compatibility in the process, though.
@@mekafinchi Since those maps rely on very obscure and complex stable mechanics, I'm not sure maintaining compatibility is a thing that can be done easily. In all cases, stable is still there to enjoy the map at least
Love the reverse leniency change, always hated how it works in stable
thank you peppy and pishifat!
I would love having the ability to chose to still show the ur bar even when we are hiding the hud
decade player here...were finally getting official lazer??
Thanks for the advice on how to prepare for pp🙏
can't wait for pp on lazer. i get much better fps on lazer than stable because i am on linux, and i have really liked the changes made to scoring, sliders, and especially notelock
Thank you for making videos that explain all the changes.
I've been playing osu! for 9 months but I've been spending most of my time on it for the last three months and I love it.
I love the classic version but I also love Lazer!
I don't know if this really helps you, but I was already feeling good about it 1 month ago x), and it's all getting better.
I'm not the best player but I really feel that the gameplay is already finished.
I like what Lazer brings to the table and the only thing that really made me stay with the classic version was the presence of pp (which rhymes with the enrichment of your Osu! profile etc...). However, if Lazer publishes scores, pp and manages rankings on the official site, there's nothing to keep me on the old version x)
Like to see Lazer moving a good direction here. I'm gonna wait until pp releases to make sure bugs can be resolved but then I'm definitely trying to move to lazer
This entire thing is very exciting, i can't believe the day will finally come
Thank you to the osu!team for all the work
I think I will switch to lazer when the song select is fully customizable
as a mania player, I still probably wont be switching to lazer because it still feels kinda janky, not exactly sure why, but standard looks great
imo, lazer is great, and the part wich might became insane for the game is the playlists. We need more on that, it can open the game in so much ways, improvised tournament, fun map packs, good ranked map pack in game, just sharing a good moment between players etc (and dont forget the potential streams/videos about a streamer trying to get beaten by the community or thing like that.
It can become such a good place ^^
anyway, insane update for a kinda old player like me x)
holy shit. holy shit it's almost time.
i think it'd be interesting to look at having grade cutoffs have a correlation with how much pp a score is worth (out of the total possible). i know it's a lot more complicated and such but it is a little odd to me that they can be so far apart
most likely they're so far apart because of combo; once the combo scaling removal rework gets in, that issue will be significantly reduced
I havent played osu regularly since 5 years ago, but Im really impressed with the progress done in lazer! I might try to get back in
I just came back to try out lazer yesterday out of curiosity and the gameplay just feels miles better than stable imo, trying to get used to the new sliders but I’m so excited to switch
Can't wait for more changes like these.
Well, you may be waiting forever then since this is one of the last updates.
Very high quality video! Looking forward for pp in lazer!
huge fan of Synesthesia and kind of disappointed to see it punish your score now :(
I like synesthesia, and it helps a lot on sightread plays, but I'm not convinced it has any place within normal scoring. Pattern reading should come from player skill and experience, not a mod that does all the work for you.
Same
From what they said, 0.8x seems to be the lowest that they will push it, and who knows, they _might_ revert it eventually if the general consensus is in favor of 1.0x. Might as well start low so people might have a lower score with it now, but it can be buffed if people don't think its unfair.
I've been playing on lazer for a few years so far and I'm all up for this update. Peppy lazer is amazing. Keep it up man.
The developer transparency on this is amazing. LGTM!
OD 9.11
Nice dark jokes
not gonna lie. i'd feel like the classic mod having a 0.5x mod multiplier will be controversial
Guess I'm switching to lazer, finally
thank you for the short slider changes!
repping the COE23 merch, love to see it!
home stretch for lazer, cannot wait for ranked play :)
Hey it's 2024, where pp?
Looking forward to the next release. Amazing videos as always
Collections inside collections 😭 please
SHOUTOUT MY MAN CURISOL 💯 CONGRATS ON MAKING IT INTO THE VIDEO
Ngl this is looking great, pp not being almost entirely dependent on combo is an amazing thing. I dont know how ill like the fact that sliders have accuracy based on timing now but i can just learn to play better so losing a bit of pp from acc wont be that bad
the slider changes look really really good! thanks ppy and osu staff :)
5:26 who is using the windows xp background as a cursor lol
This update is a huge one! Looking forward to the next update!
lazer feels really good now
Been waiting for this
i always found competing with years of old scores under the same rules to be most appealing thing about osu, I just never thought about it before now because it's been the same for so long. I wouldn't ever play lazer just on principle bc I don't think it's fair to be competing against the same scores but under different rules, having any advantage simply because i joined later even if my score isn't better.
its been 2 weeks ppy where is!!!11 /j ily ppy
The slider changes actually look amazing. I never put much thought into why some short (repeating) sliders feel so unintuitive to play, but the fact that you basically had to hit them early is most likely it.
Hope the slider changes are good, thats pretty much my only complaint.
One of the things I think would help to get more users over is better skin support.
Last time I checked there was a lot of "coming soon" messages in the skin editor. Mainly song select area and such. Argon definetly helped me move over to Lazer, but I think better skin support would make even more people willing to make the move.
I don't really play osu anymore but as far as I know it's the only community-driven game that stayed in competent hands while getting popular. I haven't seen a single change in lazer that's not a straight up improvement. Keep it up.
pishifat is having the time of his life with freehand sliders. Anyway, imma go get lazer and try them all out
What were you waiting for to download osu!(lazer) since all these years ago?
@@Libops a bad laptop. It couldn't handle the graphic. The current one I have now can tho, so now I can try it out.
Classic 0.50x 😢
My Osu account is from 2009, but I started in 2008. Back then I used a tracker mouse and big tubular monitors. Love this game.
But I only play touhou and miku music. And by touhou and miku I mean only touhou
Osu! Lazer should add 3D Mods considering there's so many Fps rhythm based genre, which some people like it and maybe it could be a game changer to an original osu! Gameplay
i dont think it would change much
osu! is a rhythm game, not an aim trainer
these are a whole new level of devlogs
Awesome update as always!
Imagine you're in a multiplaye lobby and you're about to set a 2kpp play and the host just aborts😂
add combo bursts
5:40 is a game changer for me
Ngl im switching to lazer once you can submit pp scores. Just more things to do and it just is smoother
good luck new players and upcoming tournament players
Can you change the percentage number font? I still don't like that font. It goes for cool techy thing and completely forgets readability.
0:06 WYSI
love the slider changes
thank you all, everyone working hard for this. thank you so much.
I've been playing on lazer for the last two months or so and I think I won't play stable again unless for nostalgia or something. It runs better with less issues and I would say it just feels better. Most of the issues i think lie in the ui/hud. Could not be happier with the future of osu regardless! Thank you
Honestly it was a fun ride seeing how lazer changed over the years of development. I still remember back in 2016 when lazer was just an alpha build. Great work guys :D
man i dont understand lazer without classic mod, i really hope you dont make classic unusable by reducing scores, theres a reason why 99% of scores are made with that mod on
the 99% scores "with that mod on" are plays on osu!stable which are imported, not people using it on lazer ^^;
@@DeanHerbertMooCow but why make it not usable tho? seriously every change like this makes me want to switch to stable but i cant import all the 1000 or so maps and thousands of scores cause you never gave us an option to go back
My only complaint about lazer is that it's too good, I can't stop playing