Top 4 Grip Mistakes with a Handgun - World Champion Mike Seeklander - Going Tactical ep28
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- Mike Seeklander, the IDPA World Champion, has expert knowledge on gripping a handgun. As an instructor, he has identified the same problems over and over with his students' handgun grips. Here are his top 4 common mistakes when gripping a handgun. Mike demonstrates his solution to each mistake with his Wilson Combat SFX9 3.25". If you can fix these problems, you will improve your speed and accuracy.
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Currently Mike Seeklander is owner of Shooting-Performance LLC (www.shooting-performance.com), a full service training company and the American Warrior Society. Mike is also the former co-host of The Best Defense, the Outdoor channels leading firearm instructional show.
Previously, mike was Chief Operating Officer, Director of Training and a Senior Instructor at the U.S. Shooting Academy in Tulsa, Ok. He was directly responsible for the development of all U.S.S.A. training programs.
Prior to that as an employee of the Federal Government, Mike has served as the Branch Chief and Lead Instructor for the Firearms division with the Federal Air Marshal Service as well as a Senior Instructor at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC).
He has extensive formal training and experience in all phases of military and law enforcement training. Mike is a highly sought after tactical and competitive trainer and a high level performer on the competition handgun circuit. Currently a nationally ranked competitor on the practical handgun competition circuit, Seeklander has authored/produced instructional books, DVD’s and has developed hundreds of lesson plans specifically related to basic and advanced firearms training.
As a local law enforcement officer with the Knox County Sheriff’s Department as well as the Knoxville Police Department mike worked in corrections as well as patrol and with the Organized Crime division.
In 1990 Mike joined the United States Marine Corps and was trained as an Intelligence Specialist with Top Secret clearance. Mike is a combat veteran of Desert Storm/Shield (Gulf war 1). He holds secondary MOS’s of Combat Engineer and Primary Marksmanship Instructor.
Mike is the recipient of numerous awards and honors in the law enforcement community, and as a semi-professional shooter.
Shooting accomplishments are as follows:
2013 and 2014 IPDA BUG (Back up Gun) National Champion
2011 Steel Challenge World Champion (production division).
2007 European Championships (2nd overall)
USPSA National Championships (top 5 overall numerous times)
Area Championship wins: Area 7, Area 4, Area 1 (USPSA)
State Championship wins (multiple times in some states): Oklahoma (USPSA and IDPA), Badlands Regional (IDPA), Tennessee (USPSA), Arkansas (IDPA and USPSA), South Carolina (USPSA), Georgia (USPSA), Texas Limited (USPSA), New Jersey (USPSA)
2018 IDPA ESP National Champion
2019 The Inaugural IDPA PCC (Pistol Caliber Carbine) National Championship (4th Place Master & High Military)
2019 The IDPA World Championship (High Overall, ESP Division Championship)
0:00 - Top 4 Grip Mistakes
0:45 - 1. Strong Hand Placement
3:15 - 2. Support Hand Placement
5:35 - 3. Grip Then Pull
6:45 - 4. Not Gripping Hard Enough
8:20 - 4 Handgun Grip Mistakes
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For this demonstration Mike is using a Wilson Combat SFX9 3.25" 15-round with a Trijicon RMR.
Yeah thanks, Im now having to get my wallet out.....lol.
Very nice gun and grip
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I’ve watched countless grip technique videos over the years. This is literally the only video anyone ever needs to watch. By explaining what not to do and showing what you should do at the same time, this covers everything perfectly and promptly. Great stuff.
all grip technique videos need to be prefaced with "do chin ups and deadlifts to develop your grip" because you need a minimum level of grip strength to perform these techniques
ACTUALLY... everything about it is wrong. And I am amazed that this keeps going.
VERY SIMPLE PHYSICS EQUATIONS show that all "grip mastering techniques" are utter bullsh.
At this point I am very convinced that there is a plot to have everyone have the worst possible grip on pistols, so if things ever kick off, everyone will be disarmed immediately.
Everyone else's grip, I can take a gun away from you in 5s.
With MY grip, lol... I can pull you onto the ground with my gun. Almost a judo move.
@@m4rvinmartian Whatever you say, Marvin.
@@m4rvinmartian Thanks very much super duper, shooting wizard for saying something so really very helpful. What's the name of your shooting channel again?
@@cagneybillingsley2165 technique trumps muscle , juat ask small framed woman shooters. No offense woman. But usually less muscle mass and strength.
Thank you for tutoring me. After years of not shooting well, I finally have someone teach me the correct way to hold my handgun. I can't wait to try these principles at the range. I appreciate you more than you know.
Same I always tried to line my support thumb with the side of the slide…never felt good. Also I think I tightened my grip as I pulled the trigger instead of before and pull the trigger separately. Definitely gonna try this next time I go to the range. I’m always low left and want to correct that problem
I can tell you when I learned this grip about two years ago it made an amazing difference!
@@greatcornholio5541 I'm still confused about where to place the support thumb. In the video it looks like it is floating/not touching the slide nor the frame.
@@geopietro it’s up but not riding the slide…only problem is sometimes when that’s done it can cause slide lock. I’ve seen it many times at the range when someone shoots a different gun
@@greatcornholio5541 Thanks.
Since taking your class in March, I've been working hard relearning my grip, as described here, as well as my draw, as taught in your class. After tens of thousands of dry fires, increased range time and IDPA, I'm seeing definite improvement. Thank you!
I just started IDPA. First match in May 17! Pretty pumped. Have 5k rounds since the beginning of April. Really excited to put the training to work.
You are the best teacher i have ever had. I noticed with years of doing one shot accuracy, I don't grip the pistol as hard as I should. I also lose sight picture when I have more muzzle flip. I'm going to go back to shooting one shot drills and watching my sight picture. If I lose sight picture, I know I ruined my grip.
Mike has a gift for teaching - he really does. I haven't encountered anybody at the range or on TH-cam that can break down shooting technique like he does. Excellent.
EXCELLENT video! Great demo and explanations. The "do not rotate that left hand too far forward" is the opposite of what many other high-end YT guns channels are showing. Just an observation. I like Mike's explanation and technique.
perfect explanation! I would only add that one of those cheap spring loaded hand exercisers, used diligently every day, works wonders!
Great tip!
Wow! This is the only video anyone needs to watch on this topic! What a legend!
I’ve watched this video 4 or 5 times, practicing every move. I’m a new shooter and thoroughly enjoy your instructional videos. Keep ‘em coming!
Thanks Mike for the grip tip can't wait to give it a workout
You're content is very much appreciated Mike! I'm a father of 6 children so my life is pretty busy. I have not got the chance to seek actual training from a instructor but I do go and figure things out on my own this video just reassured me that I'm on the right track thanks again man love you're stuff!
well this premiere was good, cant wait for the vid
Thank you. Great tips!!!
I “practice” pull and point every time I open my drawer. I noticed how low I hold the pistol when I draw !😳 I have taken note and changed my grip!!
"take my strong hand!"
Thanks for the tips Mike. I can’t wait to try these at the range. I find your videos to be easy understand and implement into my practice.
How has the new grip worked out for you?
I'm new to shooting and this should be standard viewing for all beginners. I was doing all four wrong and that's after having a lesson (not the instructor's fault - he was trying to have me focus on some of these elements). Thank you for putting this out in the world.
When I use to attend Government Schools
or firearm schools that
my supervisors wanted
me to attend I had one
philosophy. Now that was after 25+ years of service.
It was very simple I may have had more or less experience
than the instructor. But I
could always learn something from the class.
I found that always true
as a government employee,
a firearms instructor, both
for military & police &
as an instructor pilot.
To the persons making the video thank you!!!👍😊🇺🇸
Love this, question do the same rules apply to a revoler?
You are an incredible instructor! Ever since I found the Going Tactical series, Ive been watching out for your videos. You have a very natural way to teach, demonstrate, and instruct. Thanks!
Awesome lesson with amazing tips! You just helped me realize an error I was making with my support hand. Practicing with dry fire I can already tell a difference. Can't wait to go to the range and put these tips into practice!
I want to see a Video from you about finding the right gun for the individual
Your instructions are impeccably perfect, you are the only one on TH-cam whoe’s explanation is Cristal clear.
Mike, this is helpful. I’ve been shooting for years, I still make some mistakes. Your advice helps me to re-center on basic principles. I don’t make as many grip mistakes as I do trigger control mistakes.
This was great instruction that I needed
love the intros! so cinematic
I've got the P320 Wilson Grip module. Love that thing
These series of pistol videos are simply fantastic 👌 👏 🙌
MIke, love this...was practicing as you walked through the steps....thanks!!
Mike, sometime ago I watched a video here with Mr. Wilson and. Ayoob on the low thumb grip much like the revolver grip. And I have been using it for almost a year now and I have to say I’m very satisfied with my results. Plus I also like the fact that it’s a grip that I can use with pistol, revolver and if I have to shoot with one hand it’s more secure grip on the weapon. Thanks for sharing.
Outstanding video! I've been shooting for 35 years, and this was a great reminder.
Again, Thank you so much! Very helpful info. Really appreciate it
Glad it was helpful!
RSO, Instructor and veteran competitor here. A great refresher course, too, IMO. Mistake number 3 has annoyingly crept back into my shooting. I need to get "grip then trigger" back (or revived) on the hard drive. Thanks, WC and Mike.
Thanks for the tips
You bet
Nice info.. I need to correct support thumb too foreward.... thanks any tips for eye stigmatzm
Great instructions
Thank you!
Thanks Mike! I’ve saved your previous grip/ trigger press training videos to my playlist and this one as well! As a Range Safety Officer I’ve used these principles to help new shooters and those who blame the gun or the ammo for their various problems. I’ve found that if I don’t shoot regularly, I will have to remind myself of these principles of the grip! Thanks again Mike, you’re awesome!
@08:39, there are so many many people on the internet teaching others to rotate the wrist and point the support thumb forward.
Great video presentation! With so much information out there about what is/are a relatively simple concept(s) it can get confusing. This presents those simple concepts clearly and concisely. Well done, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Enjoy the training videos. Thank you.
I hit steel at 80 today with a compact 9mm using this technique. I’ve done it before but I’m doing it much more efficiently now. Thank you for the amazing tips.
I can’t believe how effective your instructional videos are. My shooting technique continues to improve by watching these tips, then applying them in my range sessions. Thanks!
Essential technical points, thank you!l
Thanks for that Mike. I'm going to be sharing this link with all of my students. These are all concepts that I try to impart, however you've simplified it for me. Thanks also for the part about over gripping the trigger pull. I can't tell you how often I hear folks at my range telling someone to squeeze with your whole hand...... NO! Maintain your grip and press the trigger independently of your grip. All great advice, as usual. Keep giving us great content.
Thanks for sharing!
Fine vid Sir! I am ancient and have a badly crippled left hand that I must be careful with do to my continuing work as a guitarist (not real big on being a “cripple” as true with most people who deal with a handicap….we adapt and move forward) so my grip is pretty messed up. I can still deal with a 1911 but pressing both hands together even close to as tightly as you show is just not possible. I use a modified weaver stance and make adjustments there to mitigate recoil. This was a superb vid. I will be conscious regarding the high strong (right) hand grip. I bet I can improve with that. Thanks
Thanks, Mike. I’ve been shooting for over 40 years and you definitely helped me improve my grip. You’ve made me conscious of not pressing my support palm into the grip and making that clamp. Great video!
Really good stuff. I discovered your steps as I finally got my health and got back on the range after three strokes. Also, I just switched to a red dot reflex sight (not co-presenting with the front sight) on my Steyr L9A1. It was almost like starting over, even though I have been shooting since I was a young kid and I am now 56.... The high grip, along with the tight pressure on the weapon actually made me look like I knew what I was doing after 300-400 rounds downrange. Thanks man.
Mike. Excellent advise. Keep the training videos coming.
Thanks Mike… love your videos and can’t tell you how much they’ve helped improve my shots.👍🏽
Brilliant again, great information to bring to the range
Knowledge is power
Great info, Mike. Thanks.
Any time!
Excellent video Mr. Seeklander! I agree with this 100%. All of it helps trigger pull. I’ve followed you and Rob Leatham for years. Keep up the great things you do.
Great instructions, thanks!
You're welcome!
That’s why my support hand kept on losing grip. I can’t wait to go tothe range and try it out.
I enjoy this type of video's thank you
Glad you enjoyed!
Great lesson!!! Please keep them coming!!!!
More to come!
Great presentation. Concise tips without sarcasm, boasting, or other egoic attempts at humor. Wilson Combat videoes are always professional and matter of fact. Thank you!
Thank you thank you thank you. Former correctional professional, now retired, who qualified once a year with firearms. I wish they'd been able to show your video back then. We were taught the old cup and saucer method and no matter what, only a few of us ever really got it. Keep up the good work. Going out to the range here in a few days and will see if this makes a difference, which I'm sure it will.
Another good video Mike, like always. Thank you for addressing the “rotate your thumbs forward” topic that seems to be all over the internet now a days. When my Dad taught me to shoot years ago he always wanted me to focus on gripping the gun high and tight. And that thumbs forward thing never really felt right to me.
I am here again .I did follow this four recommendations and my groups where tight then ever before and not more pulling down left .Nice Job Mike !,Thanks ,Please keep posting videos like this .
Great! 👍
I love this kind of content thanks now I need to buy more ammo to practice
maravilloso video muchas gracias
Thank you for your pistol tutorials. Excellent advice.
Mike, Thank you and the time you took to do this video.
Best video I’ve seen on proper grip technique. My recoil management and accuracy improved immediately after implementing these 4 basic principles. Thanks!
I will definitely be following your your instructions!! Thanks for sharing your expertise!!
These tips helped me see where I need to improve & practice on my grip. Thanks.
The 4 Grip Mistakes are true on; most importantly you explain the theory well. When you explain common mistakes and the corrective measures the audience can identify with your logic.
Tremendous instruction. Thanks, Mike.
What about using the Weaver/modified Weaver stance?
Mike, just saw this. Though I've had your "Your Defensive Handgun Training Program" for about a week, this video is a fantastic companion to the book and absolutely the best instructional piece I've seen anywhere on developing a good grip. I've shot well over a thousand rounds already with my 3 month old M&P 9 M2.0 Metal, but have not been able to get rid of either the recoil anticipation problem (though that has gotten a little less bad) or other gun movement issues. After watching this video several times I think I know why.
I am eager to get out to the range today to begin working on my grip in accordance with the absolutely clear and spot on instructions you have provided to us novices in this great video. Thanks much for all you do. (I've watched several other of your videos and they are all good. But this one ranks up there as one of the best, IMO.)
Thank you Mike ! Your a hell of a shot and Shooter!
Mike I love this grip, it has helped me tremendously. More of the same thank you Mike.
Great instruction, thank you.
These tips greatly helped my shooting. The squeeze then pull the trigger along with don’t roll your support hand all the way forward made my groupings tighter. Wish I found this months ago!
Always appreciate Mike’s tutorials
Absolutely, the very best instructional videos on TH-cam. Stay Safe!
Thank you. This will help.😊
Thank you!
Thanks for covering these fundamentals. It is so easy to drift away from the important fundamentals.
This is cleanest and most make sense 4 steps gun griping technique I have ever watched! I have finally realized that my grip was high and tight, but missing the clamping action on the back of my gun.
Thank you!
Great Tips! Thanks!
straight forward no bs love it
Fantastic master class!
Outstanding Mike. Thank you for another awesome video.
Thank you, These videos really help disspell the bullshido of people who I have had spoken with and claim to be experts.
I'm SOOOO glad he cleared that up for me about rotating your left hand and palm down. Lots of people teach that but it's just NOT right and doesn't feel natural. I should have known better
Man this video made me so much more proficient. Now im starting to transition from 1000yd benchrest matches to taking an interest in pistol competition
Always appreciate a reminder of the oh-so-important fundamentals of handgun shooting. Thank you very much!
Excellent instruction!
Thank you sir!
Best video!
very practical, easy steps to follow. Thanks Mike
Really excellent advice, thank you!
Keep up the informative videos. Very good advice!
I try to incorporate your
suggestions in my dry fire
practice to apply during actual live fire training. 👍😊🇺🇸
I enjoy these training vids. Thanks for posting them.
Great lesson.. I used to teach safety classes with handguns and how to use it to shoot good enough and the too low of a grip with strong hand happened almost always.. It was so hard to get people to grip high enough, especially if they didn't have a gun with a beaver tail.
Love this channel.
Thanks so much..
Great tips that kind of tips helps I think even guys that shoot a lot sometimes you get making a mistake with out knowing it 👊
Thank you for your advice. I loved it and will start applying them
Great presentation! On my compact pistols I use a finger around the trigger guard. For me, at 70 years young, my upper body strength isn't what it was 20 years ago. This method, in conjunction with your points help me control muzzle flip! I do see the dynamics of your system being great for people just starting to shoot as well as is old geezers! By this I mean that if a young shooter starts the "correct" way he will be a solid shooter hopefully? 5 decades ago we didn't have you- tube, LOL!
Best to us',,,,!
Hi Walter. I'm an instructor with my states wildlife commission and I concentrate mostly on brand new shooters. With the recent developments in our ever changing world I have been quite busy as you can probably imagine. I have many older shooters (and I'm not that far behind you) that are buying guns and getting training, and I see the gripping around the trigger guard quite a bit. If it's working for you and you aren't losing contact and having to readjust then I say to keep doing it along with the great tips Mike laid out in this very good video. One thing I have been incorporating into the platform is to lock your support arm and leave a bit of slack in your strong arm. This was suggested by a federal LEO trainer buddy of mine when discussing those of us who are losing hand strength. It sends the bulk of the energy into your non dominant shoulder allowing you to remain on target and not having to re grip. Hope it helps. Great to know you guys are still hitting the range. I sleep better knowing good men are training at every age. Be well and God bless.
@@bennettprice3968 First Thank-you for your reply. I see a lot of competion shooters as well as SPEC-OP's guys doing videos on the proper pistol grip. Mike's video is one that is just to the point. Now, I was watching Jerry Mikulek's daughter Lena shooting and she used two fingers around the trigger guard. Then Massad Ayoob's "Wedge Grip". Rob Leatham and Ken Hackathorn has videos as well. So there is an abundance of information out there.
30 years ago I could shoot the cent out of a playing card at 15 yards with a plain jane Colt Military issued pistol. Today I concentrate on getting a good hand size group at 15 yards or more.
Now, you being just a little younger that me will remember that unless a person was military or L.E. you were pretty much on your own developing your skills. Plus, the selection of handguns was almost nothing compared to today! The problems many younger shooters face now is getting a "Solid" person who really knows what they are doing to give them proper training. A reliance solely on You-Tube isn't a great educational diet. People have to research and really Vette the people they are going to listen to.
Be Blessed!
Best to ya',,,,!