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Man, this video was SO HELPFUL thank you very much! I’ve been playing disc priest for a while and wanted to check out monk- this video really helped me to understand what the hell is going on with the different interactions of the class. Great resource!
@@ChiefLiveGamingWI haha I'm so glad!!!
We the new Disc priest lmao
What a guide. On top! Thank you. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much!!
Loving the guides/information. It has helped me out a ton. I tried out Master of Harmony for the first time since playing this xpac and have to admit I love the feel of it. Keep the content coming, sir. Thank you for your information and time with this stuff
Many thanks - been playing WW monk and loving the rotations and was scared about MW. Appreciate the thoughtfulness here!
I've been following you for a long time, and I gotta say you've become very good at these videos. The passion is inspiring, and your knowledge is oozing!
You're awesome!
Love the videos... im going to be changing to Monk for the next raid and these have been helpful to learn. Only thing I would add is maybe some time stamps for specific sections of the video. Ether way great videos!
Incredible guide, really cleared up a lot of my questions, thank you!
Thanks man! I gave MoH a try but i've been using it wrong, focusing on Jade Empowerment too much, but it's actually Aspect of Harmony / Coalescence carrying the damage, jesus, 500k+ overall as a healer is really fine. For me now it's 30% Aspect, 20% CJLK, and the rest is rotational stuff.
One thing I’ve tried this week is going focused thunder instead of peer into peace.
While I love peer into peace I often felt like I was reacting to poor planning on my part and with focused thunder I can still get two instant enveloping mists (four if I have two stacks of TfT) and continue to DPS and extend those HoTs with rising mist.
Not sure I’ll stick with it but it’s made the gameplay feel smoother in general. I still miss peer into peace in emergency situations though.
Completely sold on master of harmony. Noticeably faster trash kills with my contribution to dps and double stack CJL is basically a replacement for conduits CD.
Keep it up man you’ve been so helpful this season. First time ever reaching 2k rating and I’m only a few timed 10s from 2500 now. New goal is to time all 12s by end of the full season.
thunder focus into lightning = massive heals
This is so helpful :’3 tysm for the tips
Timely video, been having so much fun with MoH. Took a little adjusting originally.
Glad you made the soothing mist point at start. Personally I don’t run it if I’m celestial since there’s enough in the toolkit. But it does feel necessary for MoH as a safety net. Particularly pugging as an emergency button that isn’t a burnt cooldown you’ll regret later or a risky hope on AT
Yea I just swapped to soothing/peer to peace and it really helps fill the gap of losing celestial CD
Yeah when I play cotc I usually drop it nowadays, especially with jade empowerment!
Thanks for the video! Really liked that breakdown and disply of spinning crane kick not being a good aoe option unless counting the amount of mobs isnt easy, or there's a bit of movement going on
I did have one noob question. When should I be casting enveloping mist while playing master of harmony?
One thing I’ve tried this weak is going focused thunder instead of peer into peace.
While I love peer into peace I often felt like I was reacting to poor planning on my part and with focused thunder I can still get two instant enveloping mists (four if I have two stacks of TfT) and continue to DPS and extend those HoTs with rising mist.
Not sure I’ll stick with it but it’s made the gameplay feel smoother and in general. I still miss peer into peace in emergency situations though.
Completely sold on master of harmony though. Noticeably faster trash kills with my contribution to dps and double stack CJL is basically a replacement for conduits CD.
Keep it up man you’ve been so helpful
thank you for the guide! Didn't know monks were this fun to play!
I tested MoH for the first time with friends in 11 mist and man, it was so fun and im blasting tons of dmg, did a 10 arakara afterwards with MoH too and we 3 chested it lol. Today i removed deep clarity to get peer into peace and it feels so much better in a couple of 10s and 11s i healed. Thx for the guide Lbn ❤
Good video man! One point i might add is Chiji when on bosses with only one target can feel abit weak (Ex. on 2nd boss of Dawnbreaker when she does the group aoe channel). From my experience i need to bank up atleast two chi harmonys and put them on the less survivable classes or else they will not reciev enough healing.
It does scale down on single target a bit with boks not cleaving, but if you cj>bok>envm>tp>bok>envm you can have every third global be envm and it still does incredible healing. using vivacious charges or rsk in there boosts the healing a ton as well after you have some envm out!
Really love healing with this build but pushing keys with pug parties is proving tough. It's hard to pump heals party wide especially with on demand burst healing and on ranged classes. Conduit cooldown seems imperative to offset Chi-Ji. Heals feel weak outside of the Chi-Ji/Conduit windows.
Have you tried the new caster build? The ranged rising sun kick does a lot of damage.
Because you have such good healing with tear of morning, you can use it and aoe lighting on cd for damage. I end up doing more damage than with fistweaving.
Ranged is more viable than ever.
Hey, from fistweaver to another, i would love to see you try my build, it has both damage and HPS but requires planning and focus to pull off, is there a way to share with you? email, twitch, youtube DMs? what do you prefer?
Hey! Just wondering what Weak Aura you're using to show when youre standing in your Jade Fire Stomp? Mine from Megasett currently isnt working.
It's very easy to make yourself. I can share you mine if you still need one
What is that vitality meter?
Thank you
Can I get the weak aura for the harmony bar?
Hey LBN - question about using your FIRST Thunder Focus Tea when going into fights. Is it better to use Tea right on the pull to get it on CD? Or is it always better to now wait until your Vitality is filled up?
I'd recommend holding it until at least near full generally, however since you have 2 charges, you can rip the first one at the start. it sets up your tempo through a dungeon nicely to be able to rip it every pull.
I use peer into peace a lot in raid and it feels like it breaks way too often, using a vivify before using enveloping mist will just make it so the cast gets completely interrupted and its so annoying when im fully ramped up and my soothing mist cast gets interrupted by what i assume is a bug.
I think that bug is caused by misty peaks, the talent that has a chance to proc random envm. Remove that point and you should be fine!
Maaaan! I thought I was going insane.
The HPS of Spinning Crane Kick in the end was so much higher. But that's bc no Renewing Mists and lots of friendlies around, isn't it?
Is there any place with target dummies that is more isolated, or like more suitable for decent testing?
No the healing from spinning crane kick comes from awakened jadefires buff while the healing from our single target spells is tied to jadefire teachings. So while I was spinning crane kicking, I still had awakened jadefire so it was healing. But then the jadefire teachings buff fell off by the time I started doing the single target rotation! That's why the healing was low there!
@@LBNinja7 ooh ofc tyvm!
They should make Dance of Chi ji buff permanant or stackable. Currently it lasts only few seconds and you can't potentially save it for a big trash pack or big incoming damage. As you said, the fact that you can control when you want to use jade empowerment is mush more reliable than a randomly 400% buffed spinning (even if on paper it can be more powerful).
peer into peace is almost a healing cd in itself. Anybody who is not running that talent is playing with dps who are way better than mine.
How do you properly use it as a min CD?
@@samhavard2982 I mean you press SM then EM+Vivify... you can literally heal through events like 2nd boss of dawnbreaker or city of threads final boss with it, especially if you use a little forethought.
Thank you for the video! Random thoughts
1. What mouse do you use?
2. Wish blizzard would make a full melee and full caster variant of monk and paladin healers
@virtualb01 i use the razer trinity, but the 12 button attachment!
Also yeah, I do dream that they give each variation a full dedicated talent tree, and split it like how druid has feral and balance druid!
Thanks alot for the guide! Just started playing melee healing monk, and love it, but could you send me a link or tell me how to get those addons, i really like how clean your bar is and would really like to know where you got the addon where you see the vitalty increse is, and the lay out for your action bar
One question, how are you supposed to use the soothing mist with peer into peace? i really dont get it, isnt it better to just stack blackout kicks if you want healing? i think im getting confused by the talent description since english is my second language, any clarification would be appreciated :)
@@adamvanko5763 they heal very differently. You will spend most of your time healing by doing damage, but peer into peace is great to lean into for mechanics like the "corrupt" mobs at the end of grim batol, or to heal the aoe pulsing damage of the final boss there as examples!
@@LBNinja7 yeah i just went into the GB, found out i was understanding it wrong but now... man peer into peace is my favourite tool :D the fact that we dont run out of mana and we can use this is such a bliss its like a healing CD in itself but with no CD :D mana is the limit and we cant possibly run out of mana :D
although I can't watch your live steam since I'm in a different time zone.. but I do appreciate your vids for MW :)
Hey thanks for the video I just started up again last week, what are your professions and do they help gain any advantage in mythic plus
Heya mate, do you got a Weakaura string from your UI that we can use? Would be lovely. Nice guide!
What's the name of that addon that tracks vitality? this video totally converted me to MoH, and I just want to be able to manage that resource better
Its a weakaura! Search mistweaver vitality tracker and it should pop up!
This video helped me a lot, thanks, can I ask u some info about ur interface? Like addon for vitality bar and ur general ui addon?
Theres an updated guide posted yesterday! Also for my ui, join my discord and check the #my-ui channel. Everything's there!
Hi, I just watched your guide. I am great at packs with aoe cleave, but struggle healing on bosses. When the boss has no minions to cleave would you just recommend spamming enveloping mist then vivify?
No on bosses you still want to maintain your rsk>tptp>bok rotation as much as you can. Then you plan your cooldowns for when the damage spikes are. For example, on the giant boss in siege of boralus, use chiji just before the big swirly damage, or sheiluns after it. Other than that, your base rotation will heal through the base damage of the boss! Once you start vivifying and enveloping misting, it's easy to get trapped in that loop and be forced to keep casting those spells!
Can someone help with a Thunder Focus Tea and Crackling Jade Lightning Macro? When I macro them together I get the increased damage (using Jade Empowerment) but it doesn't chain aoe for some reason?
I try to advise against macroing tft to a certain spell because it has many different uses, but if you are going to do it i would do it to a spell it enhances like enveloping mist, rising sun kickN or renewing mist! jade empowerment lasts until you use it so you don't need to tft>cjl right away!
but to answer your question lol, make sure that tft is above the spell it's macrod to in the macro
/cast thunder focus tea
/cast crackling jade lightning
For example. If that still doesn't work then let me know!
Curious about why you spinning kick rather than just go into tp,bok,rsk sfter TFT?
I don't, the only time I mentioned spinning crane kick was talking about how I use it very rarely now
@LBNinja7 ahh ok sorry misinterpreted then. Awesome video btw
@bezerker04 no worries at all!
I'm trying to do the jade empowerment + crackling jade lightning combo. I don't see any healing when doing the training dummy tests. If I compare it to the spinning crane kick spam I do see healing. I haven't tried it in dungeons in a party yet. Is that what I am missing? I guess it will work in a party?
The reason you don't see it is the wording of jadefire teachings! It splits the healing that it does between your allies that need the healing. This means the game says "is there one to five allies missing any hp? If so, split the healing between them. If not, don't heal"
If the tank is the only one that's missing any health, and you cjl with jade empowerment, then 190% of the damage will all go into the tank as healing. But if you and the tank are missing hp, you'll each get 95% of the damage.
But the wording of awakened jadefire (what makes sck heal) just says: this heals 3 allies for 110% of the damage done.
All this to say, the dummies are seen by the game as having full hp when looking for targets to heal with jadefire teachings, so it just doesn't heal vs the dummies. In a dungeon you'll almost never have all 5 allies at 100% hp.
What you can do is mount up, fly in the air a bit, dismount, take fall damage, then crackling jade lightning the dummies and watch it all heal into you!
@@LBNinja7that makes sense thanks for the explanation, just made a new monk for the event and your guides have helped so much
Do honestly think we will ever go into a raid and be able to be a full fistweaving monk?
Its happened before and it's totally up to the devs, so i think so!
Do you plan on doing a fw raid guide? Also nice vid
hey LB, im still not understanding when you are soothing mist in between with this "rotation" thanks in advance
Can you try not putting three points into Sheilun’s Gift, and move them to more dps? I’m trying that and haven’t needed Sheilun’s Gift.
Sheilun's healing is very strong
For homework keys/farming I didnt need Sheilun's heal either, but Shaohao's Lessons instead of Veiled Pride is some noticeable dps increase. I dont see anything else in our talent that could add more :)
Im not clear on how you get crackling jade lightning to also heal... absolute noob mw here. A quick explanation would be great!
go to your spellbook and type in Ancient teachings. It's a passive that you have that transfers 30% of the damage that some of your spells do into healing. Then the talent on the mistweaver tree called Jadefire Teahcings boosts that by an additional 160%, to a total of 190% of the damage those spells do will also transfer into healing!
Will you make a raid guide?
Great guide! Learned so much, but I feel like I still have some questions left about single target options we have.
You touched a lot upon the options we have during multiple targets but during single target bosses some of these options are much less powerful. For example, blackout kick during chi ji won't give me instant enveloping mists. Crackling jade lightning is just a minor top up at best against a singletarget boss. I know you said to watch the add spawns but not all bosses have it. Do you have some tips on how to deal with tough situations then? Because right now I feel like my monk is a true gigachad during 2 or 3+ target encounters, but others I feel significantly weaker.
Ty! Again great vid and subbed.
Use the fact that your tiger palm hits twice in your jadefire to get to 3 stacks of chiji quickly in ST! So tiger palm(hits twice)>bok(will &it 3 times=3kicks) > enveloping mist. It is still a ton of healing and enough to heal all boss mechanics. You can even use your vivacious vivify after you apply one or two enveloping mist for a nice mid chiji top up! Also sometimes I will expel harm myself to full hp so my chiji masteries/jadefire teachings only has to heal the other 4 members, and can condense the healing done per target!
Is it possible to get that AoH weakaura?I wouldn't know where to start to make my own.
can we precast before key start? to store it?
I know you can during the 10s countdown, but I haven't tried any before that tbh!
you can!
Im new to Monk and have trouble healing Headless Horseman with 550ilvl gears using the Rising Mist build from icy veins. Is this one easier to use?
yooo wish weak aura are u using bro : 0
Is it much better than Celestials?
Can we see the UI / frames you use for raid?
Just use cell addon
Nice experimental build for lower keys and Hc raids, well done :)
Sadly you are giving yourself a handicap using this above 10+, because of few primary functionalities of CotC:
1) in higher keys, damage prevention is everything and CotC does something MoH doesn't - it procs Niuzao's bubble for 3% of your HP (5x in group equals to 1M HP+ shield) = call it a mini Chi-ji bubble,
2) Celestial Conduit is not only an additional cooldown for ticking damage prevention, it also gives you 15% DMG reduction for its duration and 8 seconds after = this saved me so many times I stopped counting,
3) Celestial conduit applies shield from point 1) at 2x efficiency = call it a bigger Chi-ji bubble.
Making a simple comparison of getting an extra ~100-150k DPS (multi target, single is much lower) or getting DR + reliable bubbles you can pre-apply every 5 - 10 sec on your team, there's a reason why every single mistweaver above 10+ is using CotC.
U are probably right, but doing anything sub 10, it is reliable and mad fun :P
I'm not denying it's strength at all! I spent time at the beginning saying it is in this video because i already have a guide on cotc and havent covered moh yet! However it's also about a 68/32 split between cotc and moh in top 100 keys right now.
I am using focus tea build and doing 550-600 k dps overall and timed 12 . Adding 250-300k dps more than normal build . You might say its not worth it but in reality it makes super easier by killing stuff faster and easier to avoid mechanics.
i wish blizzard would just go full fistweaving and stop making 50% spellcasting 50% melee
No thanks I want %0 melee %100 spellcasting
@@dipsy4005 either way, i wish blizzard would go 100% one direction instead of this 50% non-sense. I feel like they cant balance it correctly without the fear of making one of them absurdly good/bad.
@@grl02im playing %100 caster on high keys and feels amazing after anniversary update.
@@dipsy4005 same - love it! feels so good
@@dipsy4005 Also nice to be on range and still provide with some nice dmg with Jade empowerment