LUMIX S9 - A Photographer’s Dream & Nightmare
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2024
- To be honest, my first impression of the new Lumix S9 was kinda "meh". However, after getting the chance to use it over a week or so, I weirdly started to love it. It's quirky for sure, but it's also very capable and a blast to take photos with! Let me know your thoughts below.
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This felt like a travel show. 🔥
Thanks man! I wish all my videos could have that vibe
If it had mechanical shutter and hot shoe, I would buy it. The LUT system is so cool. Maybe the mark II.
Yeah when I was talking to Lumix they seemed stoked on this overall design. I’m hopeful mark ii will be awesome 👏
Personally, they should've released 2 options just like they did with the S5 II. The second one being a less video centric version, with an EVF, a mechanical shutter, and just a tilt screen. That's why I don't consider this a Fujifilm V100 killer. It's more of a 1500-dollar web cam to me at least.
Honestly who knows, that might be the plan. The S52X was released a good bit after the S52. We can hope
I agree! It’s a super fun camera. Also, love the way this video was shot and put together. Really enjoyable to watch!
Yeah man, this camera was way more fun than I was expecting! Looking forward to seeing your video! I always appreciate your support bro
This camera looks like heaps of fun! Can't wait to get my hands on one and try out the LUTs youre mentioning. Great video!
Thanks man!!
The one thing that I hate is no view finder, I purchased my first DSLR 15 years ago because the point and shoot cameras started doing away with the view finder, this is the same reason that I hate taking photos with a phone, the photograph experience sucks.
You no viewfinder sucks for sure. I really want them to make a “S9 Pro” or something like that with the features it’s missing
Hey! Is it possible to further edit LUT attributes or stack LUTs? I'm trying to visualize if you can shoot video and emulate glow/halation/noise and other cool characteristics within the same in-camera LUT system or does it only messes with the color science? Thanks!
There is a LUT staking feature! Also, you can further adjust the LUTs in camera after they are made in the app
That smallgrip / handle addition is gonna be MANDATORY ! lol. Nice flicks man.
Thanks man!
Excellent video dude. Great meeting in Japan 👊🏿
Yeah man! We need to get some whiskey at the next one!
I'm revisiting this video again because it really just makes me want to go to japan and make a cool cinematic.
Thanks for watching it again! Yeah bro, Japan is pretty much the coolest place! It’s worth making time for
Beautifully shot review. I def think this is the best choice for beginner photographers over the x100. I think being a full frame interchangeable lens camera makes it exponentially more dynamic than a fixed lens APSC camera. The LUTs are great, but adapting some affordable vintage lenses will give your photography and video a natural unique flavor, that people are obviously craving right now. The full frame lenses they collect will work perfectly with a larger, more expensive camera body if they decide to upgrade in the future.
Appreciate your comment James!
Btw, love this video. Beautiful yet professional. ❤
Very kind of you to say! Means a lot
the leather strap with the green 😍😍😍
It’s a vibe!
My first interchangeable lens cameras were the Zenit B followed by a Nikkonrmat FTN, bought well over 50 years ago. I look back to those days of camera simplicity when I managed without multiple button dials and a menu system. Cameras such as this S9 give me a little hope. Much of the missing stuff wouldn't bother me - I have shot extensively with electronic shutters and the rarely encountered distortion sometimes adds to the artistic look of the photo. It doesn't bother me. I probably would miss having an EVF and would swap the mode dial for an exposure comp dial. But I have enough cameras already.
Yeah I feel like this camera harkens back to a simpler time in a good way. It’s just fun
What app are you using to stack the X-pan photos. I'm having hard time finding one that does this properly.
I just did it by hand in IG
@@connormccaskill Lol, thanks, I'll try that!
Thanks Connor..everyone seems to find some great things and a few issues as well. For me the 15 minute clip limit doesn’t make sense, given it seems to be able to run for 4 or 5 15 minute clips with no issues. That said, not really a camera for any one to do long sessions. Seems focused on folks who,want to turn something creative and turn around around in the short term for social media etc. but like any camera, you can use for almost anything if you work around the limitations. I thought DP review stated it well ‘ if you,learned photography using something camera shaped, then this likley isn’t who this was designed for…if you learned photography using something flat and phone like, this is for you’. Suspect most would still find often fun to use at times, which says a lot. Btw I do think the green version was the best choice and produces the best results! Highly subjective perhaps.
Oh yeah the green one actually takes better photos for sure ha. Yeah this camera has many limitations. It was for sure confusing at first, but I agree, this is made for phone users to get their first camera. The weird thing is, it is kinda super capable too. Idk it’s goofy.
Epic photo at 1:59 - where’d you find someone that good looking? 😅 Great video and such a fun trip. Question; I saw you shooting with the Osmo there; are any of those shots in the video? I’m curious how so many folks love that little thing!
Haha oh that might be the best photo of my career. I think a few Osmo shots snuck its way in here. It’s just so convenient!
good camera movie, glad you had fun in japan brother
Thank you brother! I wish you were able to join. Next time you have to!
Zach shoulda said "I cant go but my friend JP is a fanboi and would love to go in my place"
I'm struggling to decide between this and a used Fuji X-T30 ii for a travel cam because I can't bother taking my S5ii or S5... To be honest, the only things that are keeping me from ordering an S9 right away are the lack of flash for some cool night shots and the lack of EVF.
I think if you only want one camera, its the S5II...its not much more, does almost everything this one does, and more.
Very true. I think the S9 almost favors being a “B” camera more than anything
I love those super wide shots
Yeah man there’s something fun about it
great thumbnail!
Thanks man! Appreciate you always helping me with my thumbnails
Interesting release - as a long time photographer, I can say that at no time in the last 35 years that I I've ever dreamed of a camera that had no flash though. Seems focused more on video shooters on the go - maybe street photographers, as long as they aren't panning at anything. I love the look though - the small rig grip makes it look like Lumix should have out of the design studio. Your review seemed fair, and spot on about 1.5K not being a good price point. I'm a Lumix user and own three of their bodies - I think they missed a large section of the market looking for a compact Fuji alternative.
Yeah I’ve been hearing that the lack of flash support is kinda a big deal. I’ve actually never shot photos with flash, I’ve always favored constant light or natural light. But Cam was saying flash support would have been better.
I love that they added 65:24 aspect ratio. With Fuji I think you have to go to GFX medium format to get it and now there are rumors stating that Fuji is thinking of releasing Xpan model when they could simply add this aspect ratio at least to their 40mpix APS-C sensors. Ridiculous.
Anyone know if anamorphic desqueeze is available for stills on this thing? I don’t have any interest in the video aspects of it, but I’m semi interested in shooting stills only with anamorphic lenses.
As of now, I can't figure out how to do that. Maybe they can add it in an update though.
@@connormccaskillBummer! Back to zero interest for me until that’s remedied. THANK YOU for the reply! I’ve been looking everywhere for an answer to that question.
Connor, I fully agree… if this was $1300 this would an absolute no brainer.
Yeah the price is my biggest hiccup, but it’ll probably go on sale at some point! Might be a good snag then
If 200$ is where you draw the line on purchasing,you were never in the market for said camera.
Honestly seems like an even $1000 would be a solid price. Seems like a great Vlog/BTS cam once I can upgrade to the s5IIX
I think $1000 is the right price point: probably $1200 around Christmas!!! And $1000 by May of next year..
@@VantaBlackhole not necessarily, it’s not about $200 😅, it’s about the market.
I have multiple Camera applications, with S5 II s’ but I am in the market for a EDC that can match my Cameras for a Safety Angle for Event Shooting.
Due to the great image quality, I could use the S9 even though the recording limitations would make me rethink my Event workflow. But Connor is right, with a limited recording time in today’s market this should not as close in price to the S5 II. The price lends itself to a debate of why not just buy the S5 II, whether you are a content creator, newbie, etc.
YOU are the only one who used the camera as intended by Panasonic!
shoot and upload immediately.
BUT you did't use their intended lens....hahahaa
That’s because that lens is garbage
I bet there will be a "pro" version with all the functions it is missing, like s5m2 and s5m2x
That would be awesome if true
Nice review! I have a thought that the S9 $1,500 + lens $700-900 replaces your phone!! Vs the S5ii ..:-)
Wish the GX9 be replaced by an GX10 with all the goodies the S9 is offering but still in MFT .. I am NOT buying L mount lenses. With the LUTS option for mft !
I'm selling my Canon R8 to get this. I will be shooting Fuji X-E5 that is coming next year and this Panasonic S9 and I will have ton of fun doing so. I am getting older and traveling with kids, wife and DSLR like body gets boring quickly. Those small rangefinder forms are great.
The new Lumix LUT ecosystem would be great if we are able to import LUT from lightroom or DxO or other programs
Well you can import LUTs from Davinci Resolve, but I agree. I wish I could use my Lightroom presets
i did look at this and ordered the xt50, too many limitations for the £1500 price point. Yes i know its not FF, but really not an issue, but its small, has a good array of small lens options, and an evf. I thought £1300 was high, but still less than £1500 with lower features.
So is this basically the new 70D?
In a way I suppose.
Luts aren't like film simulations, correct? LUTS are built off of VLOG, which doesn't have the dynamic range of a RAW image... Wish they made a system that allowed us to use these cool looks without sacrificing the ability to make some adjustments later.
I also wish we could build off the RAWs. Fujifilm system is similar to this in a way though. Just jpegs basically. I think they went with LUTs because it’s open source
I need that green grip If i get one of these lol
Yeah the green is awesome 👏 although it would be cool if there was a leather option
That aspect ratio for photos ala Xpan mode 👍🏻
Yeah it’s a nice touch. Wish other brands incorporate it soon
0:18 Jim Green African Ranger 🤘🏻
You know it!
Fujifilm will make their X-E5 similar to this, but it's still not full-frame
Yeah I think we are all waiting for that full-frame Fujifilm
First, the notion that the only camera worth using is full frame is nonsense, you can take beautiful photos with any camera, using a full frame camera will not make you a better photographer, and for many people that don't print huge photos it won't matter as most people will never photograph events, do a high end photo shoot or print their own work. For many people a full frame camera is a status symbol or to feed their ego. My self I have been involved in digital photography for over 15 years, I own 1 Pentax K1 MKII, Panasonic S5 and S5 MKII, Nikon Z6 MKII and ZF, and a Sony A7II along with APSC camera from all the above plus Fujifilm XT5, XT3 AND XH2. Lastly 5 micro 4/3, from Olympus and Panasonic. All the above serve a purpose with all the different types of photography I am involved in and for the most part I use the APSC and micr 4/3 more than the full frame cameras.
Even my xe 2 has a view finder and mechanical shutter..
To each their own. Full frame does make a difference, same as medium, same as large format. People have preferences.
Mark II, an EVF please
I’ve been happy with my X100VI so far… only took 71 days. Ha
Haha
My biggest problem with these reviews is that yall keep trying to compare it to the Fujifilm X100VI and this camera is nothing like it.
Yall going to convince some amateur who wants an x100 to get this and then they find out they have to invest into huge FF lenses
Personally I think they are in use. Both the X100 and S9 are vibe cameras to me. They’re there to capture a quick moment and move on. But obviously the ecosystem is going to be very different.
A real photographer wouldn't even consider this. Guess there are more vloggers than photographers these days
I mean that’s definitely true
It doesn’t look like an M11.
I mean, it kinda does ha. At least in shape
No mechanical shutter means we wont be able to shoot indoor in most scenarios.
Are you talking about artificial light artifacts? I shot a bit indoors without issues.
@@connormccaskill i mean banding, due to the low frequency of indoor lighting or leds you will get heavy color banding in your images with the electronic shutter.
please give us a GX10 or LX1003 this is too big
I mean for a full frame camera, I don’t think it could get much smaller than this just due to physics.
A camera that makes Sony a7c great again 😂
No viewfinder is an L, interesting camera though!
Definitely a L, but it’s still weirdly good? Idk ha
The stupidity of not putting a view finder .. why ? It does not make any sense .. totally a deal breaker for me ..!absolutely mental
Yeah no viewfinder definitely sucks. I thought for sure that’d be a dealbreaker for me, but it was surprisingly fun to use regardless for what that is worth
@@connormccaskillit’s fun until it’s sunny and you have no way to see the screen😂 then you have to buy a silly, bulky screen shade that makes your compact camera a rig
Overheats. Quickly. Pricey. But you got a free trip...wow
I didn’t talk about it for video. Just photography. No need for shade
A stupid camera lol
Maybe. I think it’s pretty cool for certain things, kinda bad for other things. I think it’s probably just not for you bro
They lost me at no evf
So if you rig it out, you wont miss the lack of grip (cage with handle), EVF and limited recording (Atomos), hot shoe (LED lights), and headphone jack (Rode with zero latency monitoring).
So I wonder why PRO-fessional youtubers are complaining so much when thats what they do with every camera they have.
Nope… it’s a brick.
Nope it’s a camera
Liked the video but a little constructive criticism I have for you is I think you are speaking way too fast. Feels rushed and chaotic. Slow down, Im not old but sure felt like it watching this video. Had to stop half way.
Interesting, I have others saying I talk too slow ha! I’ll keep that in mind though
@@connormccaskill I hear you. It was mostly certain parts you I felt as though you were talking details a little too fast but if people think it’s fine then just keep going. You’re the one being sent to Japan and not me haha.
@@manuelrodriguez7200 Yeah, no worries ha. Honestly I could probably stand to slow down at times!
You can adjust video speed to your liking. Though I must say I watched it on 1.5x and didn't miss anything.
To all those going wah wah wah…no mechanical shutter. The camera is useless ! Wah wah wah. The iPhone has no mechanical shutter and yet it, the pro max especially, is one of the world’s greatest photography and cinematic tools. I don’t see any wah wah wah-ing over it. And there is so much the s9 can do that the iPhone pro max can’t.
A complete nonsense statement when comparing Fujifilm with S9. Beside the size and similar price they have nothing else with each other. S9 is not photography camera and Fujifilm X100VI is not vlog style camera. When you make video then try to compare to something in the same style which is probably Sigma FP in this case.
Personally I disagree. But I see how you'd come to that conclusion. I feel like it's a camera you'd have to try to understand
@@connormccaskill There is nothing to try , they are two different things and S9 has nothing to do with photography. You compare camera without any mechanical shutter and EFC shutter with a leaf shutter which can use any flash to a hyper sync speed. One has no View finder and other one has OVF/EVF and higher resolution. For meter of shooting X-pan format one is probably better with second hand GFX 50R then with S9. For about same money it will blow away S9 when it comes to still image quality. As mentioned S9 is entry vlog content maker camera.
It's beyond comprehension: a camera that cannot be a real camera due to lack of a mechanical shutter: Night photos with dark bars (irrecoverable) and distortions of moving subjects because the electronic shutter is mediocre! A video mode that overheats and limits sequences of max 15 minutes with unpredictable cuts! A crude copy of film simulations that has nothing to do with the Art of Fujifilm. Can we really make fun of consumers who are not experts and who will buy this Lumix S9 with their eyes closed? When will there be a version without diaphragm adjustment to align with smartphones? They should also remove the SD card connection and limit its use to the small internal memory like a ‘carbon pass’! No mic jack, obviously. We have pushed the limits of ridiculousness.
Just don’t buy it, nobody forces you man
😂😂 haters gonna hate hate hate 🎉 Then buy one of what feels like a hundred other cameras that can do this
Man tbh, I felt pretty similar to you when I saw the announcement video. But truly it was a blast to use. It’s definitely not a camera for everyone, but it sure is for some!
I can say that the absence of a mechanical shutter makes it a no for me (bars in the photos is a constant problem for me indoors), but I really like the LUT/app stuff.
Cannot be a Real camera,What does that even mean? You either don’t know anything about photography or are simply a snob that thinks you can only get results with ultra high end equipment.
Look like the LUMIX GM5 but a bit bigger and w/ no rfinder. Heavy on hands? Unbalance with lens? Need to see and try before go ahead to buy.
Yeah it’s a weird camera for sure. I’m glad I got to use it so I could understand what it’s good for
Yes, it's a lot of features, good for starters, with Lut features, around $1300, a deal. L mount could use Leica lens 😮
Yup! Personally I’d wait for it to go on sale to make it more worth it
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