Panasonic Lumix S9: It's Compact, Full Frame and Brilliant...if you can overcome these things.

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    00:00 INTRO
    00:25 The Lumix S9
    01:31 Stabilisation is Top
    03:45 Who is it for?
    04:22 Internal Mic Test
    05:17 Open Gate
    06:02 Controls and Ergonomics
    08:16 Real Time LUTS
    12:56 What Lens?
    15:35 Sharing
    15:55 Will It Work? Conclusion
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    18:45 More S9 Comments
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  • @ohwhoaitzjoe
    @ohwhoaitzjoe 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +147

    This episode brings back the DR nostalgia for some reason.

    • @emricquito5107
      @emricquito5107 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Asia hits different.

    • @ikoyDaPnoy
      @ikoyDaPnoy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Where's Alamby?! lol jk.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I agree, something happens with these two when they are back in familiar territory (Yes I know HK is not exactly like Japan)
      Their UK videos are, I must say, they lack the energy and the characteristic chaotic nature these two have when they did DR in the olden days.
      Kind of surprised they did not move to Taiwan which is far more familiar to HK, share a lot of the same laws and while does not speak Canton as much its still culturally similar.

    • @alexandrfedorov4565
      @alexandrfedorov4565 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      UK feels depressing, HK/Japan are much more vibrant and lively.

    • @user-bt7vc7eh6f
      @user-bt7vc7eh6f 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only difference is their interaction, I think back then it was funnier when Lok was the stoic guy while Kai is outrageous and play tricks on Lok.

  • @krishnakumarr9619
    @krishnakumarr9619 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +180

    26mm f8 was made just for getting product shots of the s9 with a pancake lens.

    • @MPD90
      @MPD90 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      True tbh. The lens makes no sense, no point going FF just to put F8 glass in front of it.

    • @VoltLover00
      @VoltLover00 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Who tf is that lens for?

    • @GungKrisna12
      @GungKrisna12 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Meanwhile both Canon and Nikon managed to make f/2.8 auto-focusing pancakes

    • @christophmuller3511
      @christophmuller3511 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@GungKrisna12autofocusing and with an aperture.

    • @spacelord1913
      @spacelord1913 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      lol ikr, it don't even got a filter thread

  • @fadiheterjag
    @fadiheterjag 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    My main gripe with this camera is that it’s made with a lot of compromises all for the sake of making it full frame (because TH-camrs love that), while it could have been a M43 camera with a lot fewer compromises such as a hell of a lot of compact lenses already there for it, a mechanical shutter and even room for an evf. A bit of a missed opportunity to make a really cool M43 camera in my opinion…

    • @wakeywarrior
      @wakeywarrior 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      M43 is dead. G9 mkII sold poorly.

    • @fadiheterjag
      @fadiheterjag 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@wakeywarrior I don’t have sales numbers but from an outcome perspective there is nothing wrong with M43, it’s just that TH-camrs have been harping on about full frame so much that everyone now thinks that you need full frame above everything else, even if it comes at the expense of actually useful shit you want to have in your camera 🤷‍♂️

    • @wakeywarrior
      @wakeywarrior 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@fadiheterjag I’ve had many cameras, including a G9. But full frame offers many serious advantages - mainly that image quality and low light performance. I think we’ve seen the last of full size M34, now it will be used in cheaper compacts only. APSC is a significant step up over M43 and makes more sense and I think that will remain the ‘budget’ ‘proper camera’ sensor for a while.

    • @fadiheterjag
      @fadiheterjag 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@wakeywarrior "Cheaper compact" is exactly what the S9 is, is it not?

    • @wakeywarrior
      @wakeywarrior 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@fadiheterjag I mean as in a $300 -$500 camera. The S9 is hugely expensive for most people. The M43 will be in those much cheaper cameras.

  • @Skux720
    @Skux720 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    26mm f/8 is a joke when both Canon and Nikon have f/2.8 pancake lenses

    • @stalman
      @stalman 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah this is a miss. Sigma is picking up their slack

    • @MPD90
      @MPD90 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Not only f/8, it's only manual focus...!

    • @donflamingo795
      @donflamingo795 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Even Chinese manufacturers make 2.8 compact lenses.

  • @vermis8344
    @vermis8344 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +142

    No evf, no mechanical shutter, no hot shoe, etc etc...
    Yup, it's definitely a tiktoker-tier camera.

    • @VoltLover00
      @VoltLover00 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Such a dumb camera

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      And complete lack of grip, which makes no sense on a camera with protruding lenses anyway.

    • @Thefuror38500
      @Thefuror38500 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      This could be a really great camera for landscape astrophotography. Since you basically just need a sensor and a screen, all the rest is useless.
      If the internal software is not doing too many modifications to the raw files, obviously.

    • @griegomas
      @griegomas 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The lack of a shutter will create banding in tiktoker-relevant scenarios - there are already reports of it.

    • @traveldopes
      @traveldopes 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@VoltLover00get an A1

  • @ComUnSas
    @ComUnSas 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Released with an f8 26mm lens to take advantage of its full frame to generate some super dreamy bokeh 😅. Stick something longer and faster on it and discover that full frame lenses are a lot harder to shrink than camera bodies. This is a camera for people who dont know what they want and are willing to pay top dollar for it

    • @replaygoplay7919
      @replaygoplay7919 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The release of the lumixts9 really shows who has integrity and whosya shill on TH-cam

    • @Centauri27
      @Centauri27 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "to generate some super dreamy bokeh"--with the f/8 pancake? I assume you had your tongue firmly planted in your cheek here... (complete with an eye roll) 😉

  • @Ottointtl
    @Ottointtl 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    Panasonic has recognized the market that everyone else has missed. The need for a blue, green, red or black FF interchangeable lens mirrorless camera that does not have a viewfinder.
    Kudos Panasonic, kudos.

    • @sauzefilms
      @sauzefilms 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      ohh and dont forget, vloggers LOVE slow f8 pancake lenses with manual focus capabilities. Panny boi is truly the camera company of all time.
      love the sarcasm tho lol.

    • @9billiondogs
      @9billiondogs 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      mmmmmm i love a camera with no viewfinder, no ability to use flash and an f8 manual focus lens combo so i can only shoot in bright conditions where I have to heavily squint to get focus using only the screen 😍

    • @Ferunetto
      @Ferunetto 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      You copy and paste this comment in all Panasonic S9 videos?

    • @Ottointtl
      @Ottointtl 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Ferunetto is that a question. You can't figure it out?

    • @replaygoplay7919
      @replaygoplay7919 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ah yes a ff with horrible battery life ,no evf and recording limits🤡

  • @beyondthecutworldwide1
    @beyondthecutworldwide1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    "Happy go lucky IG folks that likes hanging by cliff edges" dude, Kai's writing still at his best.
    Jokes aside, I want one now.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why? And what for do you want one?

    • @beyondthecutworldwide1
      @beyondthecutworldwide1 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SMGJohn Dual iso, full frame, always in my pocket, capable of 4:2:2 recording? For my work it would be fantastic. I often shoot random plate for VFX. Carrying a R5 at all time is not realistic, but having that S9 in my backpack would be lovely

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@beyondthecutworldwide1
      Fair enough, I suppose for quick shoots like that its more than capable.

    • @oetproductions8101
      @oetproductions8101 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hanging by a cliff edge and edging rn

    • @beyondthecutworldwide1
      @beyondthecutworldwide1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SMGJohn also, it screams a little less "mug me"

  • @TimHunold
    @TimHunold 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    Bokeh Bros are now the Lut Nuts

    • @veivoli
      @veivoli 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TimHunold Is that what he said? I'm a wee bit hard of hearing (long story involving a rifle), bit I could have sworn they said "LUT sluts"... 🙂📷
      Note: Camera emoji *without* a flash!!

  • @kennyadvocat
    @kennyadvocat 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Sad they didn't make a new M43 camera instead.

    • @albert_gyorgy
      @albert_gyorgy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      This really should've been a M43 camera

  • @demasrusli
    @demasrusli 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    So awesome meeting you in Osaka! Always a great and entertaining video 😀

  • @actyon20
    @actyon20 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Kai is slowly turning into an Chinese dad.

    • @KaiManWong
      @KaiManWong  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I am a Dad, and I’m Chinese. Your observations are not all that groundbreaking.

    • @actyon20
      @actyon20 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@KaiManWong Regards. I'll never forget Olympus E-PL 1 on the streets on ... to this day I am not sure if its Hong Kong or Mong Kong! Damn you with your subtle jokes!

  • @PavSZ
    @PavSZ 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    such a good and entertaining review!
    It was good to see you both in person again

  • @blackbugmedia
    @blackbugmedia 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    I rarely see “content creators” use evf or hot shoe, so its omission is understandable, but they didn’t slash the price enough.

    • @9billiondogs
      @9billiondogs 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I have no issue with a cool looking (to me atleast) rangefinder style "content creator" camera with all these traditional stills features removed but to not include things like dual card slots in place of them and having so many recording time limits makes me see no point in this camera at all

    • @dragontakers
      @dragontakers 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊​@@9billiondogs

  • @Gremlack13
    @Gremlack13 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    That pancake lens being a f8 is insane.
    There are many pancake lenses for various brands that are 1.8. 2.8, and otherwise.
    F8 is unacceptable.

    • @MPD90
      @MPD90 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      1.8 pancake full frame reference model please?

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MPD90
      Stop being such a lazy toss and look it up.

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@MPD90 Nikon made a 50mm f1.8 Series E pancake lens.

    • @albert_gyorgy
      @albert_gyorgy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@borderlands6606 That's an SLR lens with a much larger flange distance. I doubt it would be possible to make for mirrorless cameras with decent image quality at least.

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@albert_gyorgy I was under the impression that decreased flange distance of mirrorless cameras made lenses more compact, not less. The Fuji X100 series has an aperture of f2 in aps-c, and m43 has a 1.7 lens. I fail to see why Panasonic cannot make a compact, high quality short focal distance lens with a f3.5 aperture, but it would cost more than the budget f8.

  • @GeekyNerdyTechy
    @GeekyNerdyTechy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great stuff, Kai! Well done.

  • @brocktonbensch1356
    @brocktonbensch1356 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Was very happy to see Locke just appear!

  • @Schykle
    @Schykle 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Never seen your channel before until now but I love the vibe and really enjoyed this video! New subscriber and also love that you highlighted the playback button issue during shooting!

  • @jazzechos1372
    @jazzechos1372 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have been watching Kai and Loc since their days way back in Hong Kong when it was Kai, Loc and Alamby @ DigitalRev...Kai and Loc still produce the most informative videos that are completely unbiased.
    Yes I do agree that Kai is starting to adopt a Chinese dad style of walking.

  • @Coup0705
    @Coup0705 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Big mistake without the viewfinder. The main marketing for Fuji xv100 series was the retro style of taking photos.

  • @shogoth
    @shogoth 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ha, one more memory. I remember when I needed 4k, and GX80 just came out... It was very well priced, but I wasn't really happy about this modern Leica like design... But comparing to this atrocity, GX80 is beautiful!

  • @ScottEdwards
    @ScottEdwards 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Great video Kai and so good to meet you last week too! 😎

  • @anothorestes
    @anothorestes 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    It's like a leica for people who don't like photography

    • @9billiondogs
      @9billiondogs 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      or video with all those recording limits

    • @Malick333
      @Malick333 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Opulentvlog
      @Opulentvlog 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂

  • @emricquito5107
    @emricquito5107 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love your hair Kai show more of it!

  • @TimHunold
    @TimHunold 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Not the Sigma FP killer we wanted

  • @rakuuun4582
    @rakuuun4582 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    the only problem is the lack of good quality L mount pancake lens

    • @justyjust
      @justyjust 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Got that right F8 that’s a joke might be good for day time street photography

    • @LOTOVIII
      @LOTOVIII 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Panasonic is developing some new ones apparently

  • @Dubsys
    @Dubsys 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That gives some great quality out of such a small camera, I'm sure it's well out of my price range though

  • @sammy_sam_leonardo
    @sammy_sam_leonardo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I’m going to be honest, those sample LUTs look horrendous 😂

    • @grahamhobson2875
      @grahamhobson2875 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hooray , I am not the only one who saw this! The colour was dreadful...

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl2636 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why would you want to bake in a look and not preserve the option to make adjustments later?

  • @GuernB2
    @GuernB2 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Sigma Contemporary 45mm prime seems like a perfect fit for this, much better than the silly new pancake lens.

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Panasonic would be wise to quite franky take this camera back and do a few modifications, hotshoe added, headphone jack added, a better integrated mic like Sony does, I am not sure how much more could be done to fix the limited rec time they would need an entirely different sensor or turn it into a 6 megapixel sensor with pixel binning like A7s3 does.
    They should also make accessories like a hotshoe mounted EVF, hotshoe mounted mic, maybe they could add the headphone jack via USB-C adapter like Fuji.
    They definitely should not release this as is, its gonna be a flop. The F8 pancake is also just an insult, there plenty of F2.8 that are like 80 - 100g but are same size as this, so it makes no sense for Panasonic to do an F8.

  • @atthelord
    @atthelord 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Kai, You've got a great watch collection- so what gear would you recommend to shoot watches? A video on watch photography would be amazing and very much appreciated.

  • @RohamBroccoli
    @RohamBroccoli 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Really struggling to understand why this camera was made, for whom🤔

    • @ComUnSas
      @ComUnSas 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      And ... yet, YT reviews I've seen so far range from generally OK to 'almost perfect'

    • @LOTOVIII
      @LOTOVIII 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Video focused content creators...and people like myself that want a compact full frame for travel with those sweet built in luts

  • @ComUnSas
    @ComUnSas 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Oo-er, sixteen hundred sheets for a brick-shaped camera that will be a pain to use in bright light and with rubbish flash capability but which does come with a fashionably coloured skin. Can we get one in lemon colour?

    • @ComUnSas
      @ComUnSas 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      My bad, eighteen hundred sheets if you want a lens on it, outstanding

    • @nAcolz
      @nAcolz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It comes in black too, flash is of course rubbish, as is most built in flashes. The price for a full frame seems adequate

    • @ComUnSas
      @ComUnSas 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@nAcolz It lacks a mechanical shutter. That's what limits its flash capabilities. This is not a camera designed for stills/ enthusiast photographers. It's for social media content producers as alternative to their iphone (but without the crutch of computational features). It was designed to meet a marketing spec. It had to be full-frame to justify the target price, rather than the other way round

  • @Snapkyoto
    @Snapkyoto 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Oh you were in kyoto. I wish I could have bumped into you. I shoot in all those locations you visited. If I look carefully I think I am in one of your scenes. Wow.

    • @ThirdLens
      @ThirdLens 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which scene.

  • @pauldby1479
    @pauldby1479 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I expect big discounts on this coming soon

  • @rambr0vids
    @rambr0vids 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kai's back!

  • @jmanhuntley
    @jmanhuntley 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Lumix has always been a.great go to 👍

  • @Kdkjdjewerdnxa
    @Kdkjdjewerdnxa 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    The rolling shutter is really the Achilles heel of this thing. Compact full frame cameras like this are the dream but there are very few solid options. If this had a global shutter or a mechanical shutter, it would be so much easier to recommend but it seems like there's heavy rolling shutter even on relatively slow movement.
    Lack of a hotshoe is insane given how bad the internal mic is and they seem to be targeting this to vloggers. Hotshoe mics could've mitigated the poor microphone issue for vlogging but now people have to use external mics.

    • @MPD90
      @MPD90 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      TBH as with every compact FF camera, I just wonder what's the point? If size isn't an issue, go FF. If size is an issue, don't go FF. There's zero point getting a FF just to put F8 glass in front of it, and similarly there's no benefit to 'compact' FF if you put a whopping great lens on the front. Personally I just don't get trying to blend FF + compact, the trade offs are always high, that's just physics.

    • @albert_gyorgy
      @albert_gyorgy 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@MPD90Exactly, FF lenses will always be big and that defeats the whole purpose of making a small camera by itself. An APS-C or a Four Thirds sensor would be more than enough for a camera like this, just like how Sony does it. In this case I feel like it being FF is actually a disadvantage rather than an advantage.

    • @LOTOVIII
      @LOTOVIII 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It has a mic port, a cold shoe can still be used to mount an external mic...

  • @pl2061
    @pl2061 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Curious at what countdown was on the Tsūtenkaku tower @15:07?

  • @kristoffergo6294
    @kristoffergo6294 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is this perfect for adapting Leica M lenses? Too bad it doesn't have any EVF.

  • @hermanzhang6494
    @hermanzhang6494 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is the LUT basically the equivalent of the Leica 'Looks' on the q3 ad sl3?

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl2636 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What’s with the tape or whatever it is stuck on the back under where your thumb rests?

  • @Democratiser
    @Democratiser 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just couldn’t stop looking at the leopard print hat!!! 😂

  • @Kevon420
    @Kevon420 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hopefully Panasonic release the Lumix S7 or something later on that is actually the camera people want: a similar compact body design, a good proper offset EVF (think the Leica Q2 or CL or Fuji XPro/XE, or even Sony α7C), an actual mechanical shutter, and a full-on hotshoe that takes flashes and digital mics. This camera isn't bad per se but it doesn't quite feel like it belongs anywhere either.

  • @demofilm
    @demofilm 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's nuts all those luts

  • @donald5378
    @donald5378 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The G100D OLED is surprisingly good - if it was built into the S9 then I would have bought the S9 for use with small voigtländer M lenses, but happy for now sticking to m43 with fast compact lenses like 9/1.7, 15/1.7, 20/1.7, 25/1.4.

  • @NotoriousEDC
    @NotoriousEDC 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    f/8 is wild. Who’s making these decisions?

    • @iam.neekeeteen
      @iam.neekeeteen 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      have you heard "f/8 and be there"? so now you did

    • @BrendonKPadjasek
      @BrendonKPadjasek 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@iam.neekeeteenhahah true. Street photography cameras usually have a viewfinder though 😂

    • @MPD90
      @MPD90 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@iam.neekeeteen Yea but no. It makes zero sense to lug around FF just to put F8 glass in front of it.

    • @VoltLover00
      @VoltLover00 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bean counters, it probably costs $10 to manufacture

    • @griegomas
      @griegomas 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It looks good in product shots - that is likely a very big part of why it exists

  • @Max-mh5yo
    @Max-mh5yo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You always a have little "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" Style. 😊💕

  • @arrangearrange
    @arrangearrange 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So…kind of like the sigma FP/L but not as good? But tilty screen? (Although, I’d hope the autofocus is better)

  • @benokanruzgar8863
    @benokanruzgar8863 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So they made a full frame GM1 ?

  • @oetproductions8101
    @oetproductions8101 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope I will live to see the day where they release a small full frame camera with an electronic shutter. The sigma fp was almost amazing.

  • @DS-cf1zc
    @DS-cf1zc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    For the audience its meant to be there for - this looks like a lovely bit of kit.
    However, add an EVF, and a fixed lens, perhaps even the mechanical shutter - and you have something to compete with the Fuji x100 series, and I would suggest a replacement for the Leica CL/X series.

    • @VoltLover00
      @VoltLover00 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      X100 and Leica cameras are trash. They pale in comparison to an A7C

    • @DS-cf1zc
      @DS-cf1zc 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@VoltLover00 I see it differently, probably like many, I have used Sony cameras, and have no love them - they are soulless, and yes they give decent results, but so does a Leica, Nikon, Fuji or Canon. They are certainly not trash when you look at award winning images worldwide.

  • @edwinhession1887
    @edwinhession1887 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ll be curious to see Canon’s version of the compact FF format. Any heads up on a future Canon release? I do see balance issues with these very small bodies and lenses larger than pancakes. 14:57

  • @Tomherbs
    @Tomherbs 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone know the best camera to take with you for travelling? Must be easily carried and rugged

  • @JohnNugroho
    @JohnNugroho 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    for me, not having a View Finder in that price range is the biggest deal breaker
    im super open to reducing post editing time with in-cam LUT integration
    im somewhat so-so with mechanical shutter gone
    the cold shoe, im only using my hot shoe for flash stuff, and i got a compact mobile video light, not a biggie (yet again for the price range, is it that hard to integrate the hot shoe as a standard? hmmm)

  • @ohwhoaitzjoe
    @ohwhoaitzjoe 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would love it as a secondary camera but the price point is a bit too high. Hopefully this kicks off a huge influx of compact cameras for all lens mounts, not just the l-mount. Competition breeds innovation and lower prices so I’m excited for the future.

  • @gamingmisthios
    @gamingmisthios 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what other cameras are there like this? I meant the software features

  • @sandeepraiphotography2111
    @sandeepraiphotography2111 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The colour scheme reminds me of my Camp Snap camera

  • @kierenkd
    @kierenkd 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review - spot on about launching with a series of small F2.8 lenses. 28mm / 50-55mm and maybe a slightly larger 100m - not unlike the Nikon Series E (1980's) size.

  • @stephenfox5133
    @stephenfox5133 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    This is bonkers. Set aside the 1-2 stop image quality improvement FF gives you over m43, and a m43 cam would trounce it. It’s utter madness. M43 is smaller, better IBIS, smaller lenses, add in viewfinder (gm5) and flash. It all adds up to a vastly better travel package. And it would be cheaper. GX85? GX9? Why would you choose marginally better image quality with all the drawbacks it adds..🙈. Lord. I sure hope this cameras existence doesn’t prevent the LUT feature coming to m43 cameras.

    • @kkobayashi1
      @kkobayashi1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s 2 stops difference, and that’s not exactly marginal. F/2.8 on FF is equivalent to F/1.4 on M43. F/1.4 on FF is equivalent to F/0.7 on M43 which I don’t think even exists.

    • @Centauri27
      @Centauri27 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kkobayashi1 If you really need the bokeh of a f/1.4 FF, then m4/3 clearly isn't for you. But with the f/8 pancake, m4/3 can easily trounce the S9 by two stops with an f/2 prime.

    • @kkobayashi1
      @kkobayashi1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Centauri27 I never said anything about bokeh so I don't know what you mean. If you're just saying the F/8 pancake is stupid then I agree.

    • @Centauri27
      @Centauri27 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kkobayashi1 I just kind of assumed that. Because when you say "f/1.4 on FF is equivalent to f/0.7 om m43", people usual mean bokeh ability. That's because, exposure-wise, an f/1.4 on M43 is the same as f/1.4 on FF.

    • @kkobayashi1
      @kkobayashi1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Centauri27 That's because the ISO scale is defined that way. But in reality, ISO 100 on M43 is equivalent to ISO 400 on FF in terms of image quality (signal to noise ratio) assuming the same number of pixels and same read noise per pixel.

  • @THSimagery
    @THSimagery 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    mannnnn, that IBIS is crazy!

  • @masyulgo
    @masyulgo 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your glasses are really cool what is the name of the product?

  • @oregonduc
    @oregonduc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ZV-E1 challenger but taking away hot shoe is a negative for photography. But they do have a platform they can build on now.

  • @kangchem
    @kangchem 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    this is my first time i heard Kai call it "Lumix"

  • @CartyCantDance
    @CartyCantDance 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This looks great for the next generation of photographers who are used to phone shooting without EVF. Anyone who has established their style of shooting already clearly doesn’t need this camera, but it looks like a lot of fun. I have 2 s5ii’s don’t think I’ll “upgrade”

  • @polardiscoball
    @polardiscoball 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the iphone shots are the best clips

  • @787UrbanApparel
    @787UrbanApparel 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I ❤ Lumix !!! ... Since 2006 I been using Lumix and still rocks .

  • @TomCalton
    @TomCalton 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I can confirm, my pants remain dry. Which is a shame because I packed my wipe clean boxers for the trip in anticipation. Nevermind. At least it was great meeting you guys in Japan 👋🏻

  • @johnnybrabus2967
    @johnnybrabus2967 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A hotshoe to provide an evf option would have done the trick

  • @znhatgan8782
    @znhatgan8782 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Imagine this was a gx9 successor with the g9ii sensor and video function.

  • @asimplefarmer
    @asimplefarmer 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice Kapital bandana!

  • @LM43243
    @LM43243 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No iso exposure correction dial :(((( So used to having it on my x100v

  • @user-sd3ik9rt6d
    @user-sd3ik9rt6d 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wouldnt mind it being a little wider with an evf

  • @henrytong8707
    @henrytong8707 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love my Lumix S-LUT.

  • @RodCine
    @RodCine 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bruh this guy is funny. He actually about to make his own channel go 1 mil soon. wow

  • @masterche1980
    @masterche1980 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have a smartphone for mobile photography every day. Has Panasonic decided to compete with smartphones? We wish him good luck, he will need it.

  • @pop44n89
    @pop44n89 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A leica Q with a mount and interchangeable lens?

  • @nazrhael3660
    @nazrhael3660 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't know about the stabilisation. A lot of the footages look a bit jerky/twitchy?

  • @hadai4135
    @hadai4135 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    could u compare it with the sigma FPL in term of "compact, color science,..."

  • @MyLifeFrAiurGaming
    @MyLifeFrAiurGaming 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Beautiful camera!

  • @ClearComplexity
    @ClearComplexity 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As someone that uses an fp L as a side camera just for stills, most of the "issues" with the S9 aren't really issues for me. I prefer e-shutter and rarely put the EVF module or whatever on the fp, so this is just a better fp for me in most situations (fp, not fp L since I can't use APS-C mode and still have around 25mp). My main cameras are MFT; when I work I'm carrying an OM-5 with a 75mm f1.8 or 45mm f1.2 on for portraits that I focus on and a Pen F with a 15mm f1.7 or 20mm f1.4 for wider shots if I need something quick (those would be FF equiv field of views: 150mm, 90mm, 30mm, and 40mm for the few that don't know). I really wish the S9 would have just been a GX10 with the G9.ii sensor package and processor. I'd even be fine with a G100.ii, G110, or whatever that would have been a GH7/G9.ii Jr that fixed the few design issues with the G100 that took it from a great camera to pointless (lack of IBIS being one of them). Panasonic opting to go with the FF sensor package here kind of shows they're finished with more budget/cheaper MFT offerings. The G9.ii really comes across as their last way to testing the waters to see if it's worth releasing photo centric MFT cameras while just using the same R&D they're already doing for the GH7 put into a modified S5.ii shell. It didn't really sell well for that, people bought it as a better GH6. I might be wrong, they may release another MFT photo camera, but I highly doubt it since the G7 is still being sold. They're doing what OM-Sushi is doing, milking what they have for all it's worth before shutting it down to leave high-end video for MFT with the GH line, and that's about it.
    Shame, I have a G9 in my bag with a 12-40 f2.8 or 12-100mm f4 after giving away my EM1.iii to my work partner. I was hoping that the stars would align, and I would get a GX8 mark ii to replace it and possibly take over as my main body in general.
    Design wise, this is just an obese GM1. Imagine if they actually released a GM10 as the replacement for the G100 fiasco that was basically just a GM5 with a flip screen and as much of a G9.ii or GH7 spec wise they could fit in the body, losing the 1/500 mechanical shutter and everything else like the S9 to get the new MFT sensor package with IBIS.

  • @3423fdsfdsfdsf2
    @3423fdsfdsfdsf2 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is the model of the other camera?

  • @dominatememagonline6334
    @dominatememagonline6334 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This reminds me of a FF version of the Leica TL2. It was designed for cellphone users also. We see what happened with that camera.

  • @sturmgold
    @sturmgold 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Next time fixed F16 please, we embrace the darkness! And about the compact size, remember the RX1 series :D that was a nice one even though it was a fixed lens system!

  • @LilaWolken1987
    @LilaWolken1987 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    they should have instead put out the S1 II - S1R II - S1H II. the only reason the S5 was a banger over the others was, it had the superior autofocus. they just need to put it into the other cameras.

  • @iggytse
    @iggytse 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would have preferred a successor to the gx9 so I can use smaller lens. Panasonic seems to have borrowed the Canon cripple hammer to make this S9. This should have been the full frame interchangeable version of the Fuji X100VI. Better off getting a Nikon Zf if you want a cool looking full frame.

  • @yvesleroy5740
    @yvesleroy5740 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    What a weird camera 😂
    No EVF and those lenses ...

  • @lensboi1229
    @lensboi1229 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This camera seems just absolutely hobbled , and at $1500, it seems absurd. The biggest issue here is the lack of a mechanical shutter coupled with a slow readout sensor.
    First, it only shoots 12 bit RAW, so DR is going to be closer to APS-C cameras than most full frame bodies. Second, the camera can’t even shoot with a flash. Third, indoors you will often get severe banding due to artificial lights (even with their flicker matching). Fourth, the rolling shutter is bad enough that you can’t shoot action. So it’s $1500 but just not really usable for any serious photographic work that isn’t outdoors.

    • @LOTOVIII
      @LOTOVIII 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If only global shutter technology was more widespread...maybe a mark ii will have a global shutter, hotshoe, and a headphone port

  • @VinceWatches
    @VinceWatches 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Panasonic wants to fight against Fuji x100 and Leica Q3 with a similar design. But without viewfinder I do not see this camera marketed towards experienced photographers but more to content newcomers.excellent vidéo as always

  • @bdssoaz
    @bdssoaz 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    5:11 Jordan's face...🤣

  • @justyjust
    @justyjust 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This just reminds me of the LUMIX GM1 but bigger, small body but big lenses which was odd apart from the compact lens they had.
    It’s lecia like but lacking a viewfinder they could of at least give it a hot shoe with viewfinder attachment
    I wanted to love it but it’s just not there for me I’ll wait for the mark ii which should have all the bits it should have had.

  • @bradl2636
    @bradl2636 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Accountants can finally be content creators

  • @HeikoBertram
    @HeikoBertram 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It could have been a Leica q with interchangeable lenses if they had sticked with the GX-9 lay-out. A big missed chance.

    • @HeikoBertram
      @HeikoBertram 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If only the buttons were ther and the option to vit an external evf I would have been happy

  • @RoweFilms
    @RoweFilms 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great little camera

  • @BRNDNSLVRA
    @BRNDNSLVRA 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hopefully other companies follow

  • @AndrejsZavadskis
    @AndrejsZavadskis 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wow. only what is this mount ?

  • @pcprincipal9889
    @pcprincipal9889 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    45mm f2.8 dg dn is perfect on an FP, would be ideal for this too

  • @rollingtroll
    @rollingtroll 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really like the video imagery actually. I own an X-T4. I really don't need this as I also do a lot of photography, but it somehow works for me. I must be beautiful and instagrammable (HAH!)

  • @davidbolduc828
    @davidbolduc828 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the capabilities and features, but it still looks like a rough prototype to me. It also needs an excellent small kit lens to make it compact and shine.