Why It's a "Flank" When Kyo Does It But "Feeding" When You Do
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I saw Kyo yesterday in Anarchy Open and had no idea. Still got beat soundly though
@@obscurequestions same 😭
You do feeding.
Kyo does flanking.
I do fleeing.
We are not the same.
i'd like to think of it as a tactical retreat
trust me, bro. my 20 deaths are definitely necessary for flanking bro
It's okay guys I run like 20 AP of quick respawn
@@randomusername1735 hold on you don’t run 57AP of QR when you play tetras? Man some people…
Wait this is the average gear of a stick controls tetra player💀
The Kyo boss meter had me dead. Just accurate experience.
You're a skirmisher now, you're a slayer now 🎶
I once faced Kyo in a Ranked Open match. I didn't realise who the Tri Nouveau was who kept killing me but then I read the name.
"... is that actually Kyo?"
Wouldn’t it be cool if I could actually flank due to the maps having flank routes
in MOBA competitive analysis efficiency is a really big topic because of the RTS roots, so there are two terms for flanks: ganks and space. Ganks (as was discussed on the wonderful April Fools video) are flanks designed to kill, like the fight you broke down, a simple 2v1, whereas when someone is "making space" they're flanking on the map, so pushing somewhere the rest of their team isn't. Instead of withdrawing and giving up something on the map to guarantee a 5v5, a player may engage into a losing fight with the aim of stalling the enemy team, just taking up their time: they can't ignore the random player engaging on their backline so they will fight them, where in the meantime the engaging player's, the player "making space", team can do something that would ordinarily be really risky, since the enemy team can't punish the 4-man (or 3-man in Splatoon) while they're all busy with the lone player. I think it's valuable to distinguish between these because a player making a gank is looking to win (to get value from a 2v1 you need to get a splat without any significant losses) but a player making space is looking not to lose, and I think that Kyo's play at bunker is much more like the second. Great analysis as always, Gem! I 100% agree with reasoning you talk about in the video.
I think the term you're looking for is "split-pushing"
@@malcovich_games that's only if they're pushing a lane, there are other ways to make space like OP explained
8:20 one example that I find very funny is in Museum d'Alfonsino, the player going right at the start of a match will immediately be splatted 90% of the time. Every time I see a player going the flank route at the start I'm like "so you chose death"
Especially when there’s an e liter on snipe. Like bro you ain’t slick 💀 once I got someone there and the moment they respawned they did it again
the boss music at the beginning jumpscared me 😂
Mission accomplished.
The short version is that it's about attack timings. Attempting to flank when your team is dead or not in a position to take advantage of it gets no value even if it succeeds. This is obvious, but something people definitely struggle with, as anyone who played Tricolor during the Splatfest can attest.
I think there's also some hindsight bias, where any play that succeeds is automatically a brilliant idea and any play that fails is a stupid idea. You see this a lot with fighting games and Dragon Punches. If the DP hits, it's a godlike read, if the DP is blocked, you're an idiot, why would you DP there?, even though it's basically just luck either way.
Hey gem! I'm pretty sure you aren't gonna read this but I wanted to say thank you. I'm slowly getting into the competitive scene thanks to your discord and I am learning some fact I never would have thought.
So yeah I can say that you taught some cool knowledge to me
That intro is perfect lol
Thanks Gem you just contextualized what I've been doing. I'm probably going to refine my strategy with your advice.
Note to self: spam tf outta missiles whenever facing comp players just to really annoy them 😂
I'm a casual player and I've seen Kyo an *unhealthy* amount of times in my matches it's scary 💀
8:20 I might be completely overthinking this and getting caught up on the whole idea of skirmishing, but what _would_ be the right way to play this situation? Assuming 1. you're playing an aggressive skirmisher weapon that wants to flank (like wiper), 2. you're already near mid by yourself, and 3. the rest of your team is still coming back to mid. Should you be trying to stay hidden while you wait for your team, or should you be painting defensively and stalling?
I ask because I had a similar situation on museum zones last night and I'm not really sure how I should have handled it. I took the right flank out of spawn right at the start of the match and made it to mid before the rest of my team. I was trying to draw attention away from mid so that the other team wouldn't get paint control of mid for free, but I just ended up getting cornered and picked right away which really hurt my team. Should I have just held back from even dropping from the flank until my team was there, at the expense of giving up zone control while the match was still in neutral?
Some good options could be getting stealthily into position and waiting for your teammates and painting for special
Personally, in random match, whenever the entire rest of the team is slow to get out of base I just paint there too.
If you go out on your own you're gonna get taken out. Even though getting mid early is better, approaching mid as a team is still better than going alone.
Defenitely get the most wins when the whole team paints base on their way to mid, rather than covering base fully at the start.
The rare good talks I like from this channel.
S+ tier title
that was an awesome opening
Thanks
so that explains why when i live for so long up near enemy perches and spawn and they all try to kill me and fail, we get massive pushes going ( assuming my team even bothers to notice let alone take advantage of it which they never do until i die and the entire enemy force turns on them next )
my biggest flex is splatting kyo once in a turf match
"there are some weapons that SLAY better than others" i couldnt have said it better myself
Its only Kyo, just ignore the guy.
Because i plan to feed
I've been on teams with kyo twice now
am i silly for not knowing who kyo is or
Naw, you're not silly. While kinda sad, it's pretty normal to not know the top players (who aren't already content creators). There's another video that Gem has that addresses this issue.
One of the best players in North America; plays sloshers. Formerly played for FTWin, a team with a very long uninterrupted major tournament win streak in Splatoon 2. Hyper aggressive playstyle; plays every bucket like it's a tri-slosher. Very loud when he gets excited. Streams a good amount at twitch.tv/kyochandxd
@@SquidSchool thanks for the info! i'll check 'em out sometime
I tossed a like at this video purely for that opening
Gem = everyone's sensei
He ain't mine
@@Doceli-dg3cn It shows
9:10 I'd say the goal is not to splat them, but to get them splatted.
The tl;dr to answer the title is team cooperation. If you're getting around the opponent while your teammates are taking attention, that's a flank. If you're going off into enemy territory on your own, that's feeding.
Going to be completely real here i just watched this video but my brain did not retain anything i just heard
You have nothing to fear from top ranked players until they can win as the 1 in a 1v4 at top rank.
Then you're facing god.
common gem W
Sorry, but I'm simply built different and I will flank as such
you can flank in this game?