Practically all the quads in the 7 minute mark were all clean. You can tell they look much more confident, high and sure than her attempts in competition. It looks like she got the rhythm of the quad sal down at that era. Fantastic. Even though almost all her quads in compeition were underrotated, she was evidently able to land them. Quite the genius.
Definitely got better with time. I think the "peak" of a skater's career is sometimes much later than people think. You just have to take good care of your body and any injuries.
Yes I think you are right. The attempts in the last minutes are "closer" to be admitted... I am a Miki fan but most her quad attempts were about 3 1/2 and would't be admitted anyway... even though they were "clean". Waiting for her to come back...
Thank her genetics that she has such flexible knees and ankles because she was always VERY short of rotation on her quad salchow attempts, which could of caused a catastrophic injury.
She is really brave, quad jumps are usually men stuff in figure skating, I wonder if there is already a figure skater who attempted and landed a quintuple jump, that seems to be impossible at all unless he or she could defy gravity
I bet some males have attempted it in practice, but none in competition. There's some videos on TH-cam, but they all seem to be 4.5. Maybe it will happen one day, just not any time soon, just like I think women will start to attempt quads more often. Until not too long ago, men didn't do quads and now it's almost essential.
Scientific American :"The quad is the physical limit, To do a quint, we would have to have somebody built like a pencil, and they can't get much smaller than they already are." Still, certain skaters have the body build and skills to achieve it. But even so, many coaches don't allow skaters to attempt the quintuple due to the risks associated with falling while spinning at such high speeds and with such force. Even falling on a quadruple jump can take a serious toll on the body, In a quadruple jump, you are landing with seven times your body weight, That is a lot of force. When they fall on a jump like that, some say it feels like their intestines end up in their throat."www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-quintuple-jump-in-figure-skating-physically-possible/
@@megabix004well women bearly started jumping triple triples just a few decades ago now they are jumping quads, soon they will learn how to jump quads more consistantly. Miki ando stuggled with the quad sal after she turned an adult but still manage to jump it towards her mid 20s
lets all try and b supportive of her...miki ando is trying her hardest and is the only woman taking it to the next level in competition.....she will be the one who will have changed the sport when she leaves....shes working on big things, while people like Lady Mao senshi, (WHO I LOVE TO DEATH WITH A PASSION) is still cheating triples......we should commend miki as figure skating lovers
According to ISU, she only did one clean quadruple salchow in competition, and she did it in the 2002-2003 JGP Final, the second clip in this video. I don´t know if the judges counted it at that moment
Puckles100 Are you surprised by the fact that there is a physical difference between men and women on a muscular level? It's nowadays a standard form men to do Quads and 3A, while 1 or 2 women have ever attempted those. Why are you automatically assuming I'm referring to the gender in an "inequality" type of perspective? Your comment says more about you than it does about me.
So I'm watching the Olypmics right? Even the lowest group of men ALL do triple axel RIGHT. So later I'm watching the women's short program and what do you know? ONLY ONE woman TRIES to do a triple axel AND FAILS HORRIBLY. Now shut the fuck up you dump bitch.
Gaming Power Puckles100 ahahah, this so so funny, tbh. Just to let you know, in 1984 Scott Hamilton won the Olympics without doing a triple axel. Mao Asada- the woman who "failed horribly", actually only fell for one triple axel in her short program. She landed one in her free skate program. Lastly, Yuzuru Hanyu, the 2014 men Olympic gold winner- fell doing a triple flip, a jump element that has base points as 5.3, while the quad salchow has base points of 10.5. JSYK, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I understand that men's legs are usually stronger than women's in figure skating. For a woman its more "standard" and conventional for a waif figure.
Emmalia Aradeil I was obviously trying to show an example of how men and women differ on a physical muscular level by the sheer number of rotations done. OBVIOUSLY in figure skating jumps are just a part of the whole complicated performance.
Jen Carlyle S. Upper body strength also plays a big factor, which women naturally lack compared to men. Moreover, women tend to store fat in their hips and breasts, making it more difficult.
tendrugimichal yeah but would that count? Shes young, her body is not fully developed yet but i think if she keeps on practicing, maybe in the future she might be the first woman to land 4s perfectly
There are important anatomic differences, regardless of what people are told. But if you really want it dearly... Anna Shcherbakova might land two 4Lz's in her free skating 2 days from now. Kamila Valieva will definitely land two 4T's (likely 4T3T with one of these) this season. Alexandra Trusova is just moving boundaries of impossible.
And indeed did Anna Shcherbakova land these 4Lz and 4Lz3T, with GoE of 3.29 and 2.96. Mesmerizing. Not a single male succeeded with the 4Lz here (at Skate America; three tried, Nathan Chen included).
1) Javier aka javie is gay. 2) I'm not a figure skater but for u gals out there trying to land a quad and to land it cleanly and to do it combo try this..(a Jill trenary cheat landing trick)..instead of landing on your real landing leg..land on the other leg..its already in position for u to land forward and then go up into a salchow jump..thus landing a quad combo jump....someone try and tell me if u get credit...laters
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Several aren't fully rotated, but still really impressive. She left her mark on skating for sure.
This is what determination looks like
Practically all the quads in the 7 minute mark were all clean. You can tell they look much more confident, high and sure than her attempts in competition. It looks like she got the rhythm of the quad sal down at that era. Fantastic. Even though almost all her quads in compeition were underrotated, she was evidently able to land them. Quite the genius.
Some of them at the end are actually clean so I'm not sure why people are saying none of these are clean because some are.
when they didnt' count yes.
she pre-rotates quite a bit, and often her landings are under-rotated
@@Dunika it’s almost impossible to not prerotate especially in salchow
@@L_k08 Thats why there is a rule that penalizes too much rotation, but not all rotation
Some of these jumps are so amazing. She made history, she made figure skating more intresting. I wishe she had tried them more often! Thanks, Miki!
thanks youtube, now I can count in Japanese up to 4
casperado666
Ichi ni San Shi/yon go roku nana/shichi hachi kyuu juu
一 二 三 四 五 六 七 八 九 十
The first and only women to ever successfully do this. Woahh her future kids will be so proud!!
Now not only one.
Archivator-RUS, who else did the quadruple jump?
Geri Jokub Alexandra Trusova of Russia she’s a junior skater
She will not be able to land it after puberty.
How much are you ready to bet for it?
Some of these falls looks so painful and nasty. Gotta admire her for trying and trying.
well damn!!!! I didn't know that there were so many good attempts. bravo
Definitely got better with time. I think the "peak" of a skater's career is sometimes much later than people think. You just have to take good care of your body and any injuries.
The attempts in the last minute of this video are the best... Many were clean. If only she did them clean in competition
The ones between 7:09 and 7:32 are the best, they look quite clean!
GioMariatex97 i checked them in slow mo, they’re clean
the last qadruple was so fast, looks like Yuzuru Hanyu. Japanese skaters are great.
7:10〜 perfect quads
omg your ankles are gonna hurt
Javer Fernandez and Miki Ando make a beautiful couple
The most impressive thing is knowing how many times she had to have fallen without giving up.
well that's more than i can do, i'm learning the single salchow
今、ようやく女子も４回転時代に突入、20年近く前に成功（認定）された安藤美姫は、やはり凄い!
既に3Lz−3Loを成功させていて、しかもスケート⛸️を始めて6年しか経ってないという…正に天才。
エッジエラーの判定が厳しくなるのに合わせFのエラーを矯正。
以後、試合で６種すべてのジャンプで、ただの１度もe判定がない!
フリー後半５回ジャンプにも成功。チャレンジ精神も素晴らしい。なぜか日本のマスコミには当時の女子で最も難しい３−３を跳んでいることも、e判定がないことも、後半５回ジャンプは勇気あるチャレンジということもスルーされていたけど…大丈夫!スケートファン⛸️💖は、ちゃんと解って応援して📣称えてましたよ!
あのインチキなさい 体がなければ 安藤選手は もっと気楽にジャンプに挑戦して 4回転を飛び続けたかもしれませんね
あの時代は 暗黒の時代でしたね フィギュアスケート連盟は その時代を作った 責任を とるべきですよね
What doesn't change the fact that they are EXTREMELY difficult.
Seresu1 yess these jumps are extremely hard Bcz of the pressure on your leg and the falls can hurt and get minor injuries.....
She does all clean in 2007.
2007年ワールド練習時、2002年EX月の光、このあたりは回転も足りてるように見える。
Miki Ando is really my fave Japanese figure skater
アンダーローテーションやいまのクォーターの判定があればもうちょっと試合でもできたと思います
この時代は一人を除いては
点数を厳しく 抑えられていましたよね
フィギュア暗黒時代
それがなければ安藤選手は
もっと 上位に入っていましたよね
Yes I think you are right. The attempts in the last minutes are "closer" to be admitted... I am a Miki fan but most her quad attempts were about 3 1/2 and would't be admitted anyway... even though they were "clean".
Waiting for her to come back...
Thank her genetics that she has such flexible knees and ankles because she was always VERY short of rotation on her quad salchow attempts, which could of caused a catastrophic injury.
what rhe fuck
She is really brave, quad jumps are usually men stuff in figure skating, I wonder if there is already a figure skater who attempted and landed a quintuple jump, that seems to be impossible at all unless he or she could defy gravity
i guess is impossible unless they fart strongly towards the floor
I bet some males have attempted it in practice, but none in competition. There's some videos on TH-cam, but they all seem to be 4.5. Maybe it will happen one day, just not any time soon, just like I think women will start to attempt quads more often. Until not too long ago, men didn't do quads and now it's almost essential.
Scientific American :"The quad is the physical limit, To do a quint, we would have to have somebody built like a pencil, and they can't get much smaller than they already are."
Still, certain skaters have the body build and skills to achieve it. But even so, many coaches don't allow skaters to attempt the quintuple due to the risks associated with falling while spinning at such high speeds and with such force. Even falling on a quadruple jump can take a serious toll on the body, In a quadruple jump, you are landing with seven times your body weight, That is a lot of force. When they fall on a jump like that, some say it feels like their intestines end up in their throat."www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-the-quintuple-jump-in-figure-skating-physically-possible/
@@megabix004well women bearly started jumping triple triples just a few decades ago now they are jumping quads, soon they will learn how to jump quads more consistantly. Miki ando stuggled with the quad sal after she turned an adult but still manage to jump it towards her mid 20s
And here's me, still trying to land a single axel
And here's me who don't even trying to do any jumps and afraid of falling in ice I just writing an ice skating novel and I need ways to fall lol
In 2007 she landed many clean ones
Javier Fernandez's girlfriend
lets all try and b supportive of her...miki ando is trying her hardest and is the only woman taking it to the next level in competition.....she will be the one who will have changed the sport when she leaves....shes working on big things, while people like Lady Mao senshi,
(WHO I LOVE TO DEATH WITH A PASSION) is still cheating triples......we should commend miki as figure skating lovers
This is what you get if you have a beautiful air positon.
has she ever fully rotate one in competition? because all I see are 3.5 on every jump
Some at the end are actually pretty good, the ISU accepts that she successfully did one 4S. I don't know which one though.
According to ISU, she only did one clean quadruple salchow in competition, and she did it in the 2002-2003 JGP Final, the second clip in this video. I don´t know if the judges counted it at that moment
It IS like this NOW my dear but back then it WAS like that. Every score is given according to the rules under which the competition was held.
She should have tried a 3 axel. Don't get why she didn't try it.
걍 봤을 땐 네바퀴인가싶었는데 0.5배속으로 보니 심지어 3바퀴밖에 안 뛴 것도 있음..ㅋㅋ흠...
Severe pre rotation by 75 degrees, 3/4 almost 1/2.
I could tell several in the practices are clean/just a bit underrotated. Not sure about the competitions but Miki is still amazing anyway
A quad salchow can be deduced to 2.5 points!? I’m mean ATLEAST 7 points will be enough but 2.5!?
Technically quad toe and quad sal are only 3 and a half...
this is awesome!
Sasha Trusova has entered the chat
if you fail one jump and be judged as under rotated, the point falls extraordinarily. that is why women dont challenge difficult jump lately.
Actually, lately there are many junior ladies attempting 3A and quads. Most of them still in the pratice, but Kihira, Trusova...
Most of these are a half turn short, but somewhere in there she probably got around enough.
Great attempts, but I didn’t see one that wasn’t under-rotated.
then you didn’t watch the video
If any of you know Alexia Paganini...I think she might get it soon :O
it seems like she really got her technique down after 2006 they got way stronger
I wonder when they will ever give deductions for two footed takeoffs. Good job Miki!
I wish I was as good as Miki... =)
@@imsuingyou2184 A lot of current 4S jumpers are taking off on two feet or coming very, very close to it. There is nothing in the rules forbidding it.
And the '3S=4.5'...nope. It's actually 4S
Fantastic!
Is it just me or do they all just look like Tonya Hardings triple axle.
All of them are underrotated, but still very nice for a woman
Puckles100 Are you surprised by the fact that there is a physical difference between men and women on a muscular level? It's nowadays a standard form men to do Quads and 3A, while 1 or 2 women have ever attempted those. Why are you automatically assuming I'm referring to the gender in an "inequality" type of perspective? Your comment says more about you than it does about me.
Puckles100 Ok I'm really not in the mood to argue with a 12 year old. Go read a book or finish elementary school, or both. bye now
So I'm watching the Olypmics right? Even the lowest group of men ALL do triple axel RIGHT. So later I'm watching the women's short program and what do you know? ONLY ONE woman TRIES to do a triple axel AND FAILS HORRIBLY. Now shut the fuck up you dump bitch.
Gaming Power Puckles100 ahahah, this so so funny, tbh. Just to let you know, in 1984 Scott Hamilton won the Olympics without doing a triple axel. Mao Asada- the woman who "failed horribly", actually only fell for one triple axel in her short program. She landed one in her free skate program. Lastly, Yuzuru Hanyu, the 2014 men Olympic gold winner- fell doing a triple flip, a jump element that has base points as 5.3, while the quad salchow has base points of 10.5. JSYK, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I understand that men's legs are usually stronger than women's in figure skating. For a woman its more "standard" and conventional for a waif figure.
Emmalia Aradeil I was obviously trying to show an example of how men and women differ on a physical muscular level by the sheer number of rotations done. OBVIOUSLY in figure skating jumps are just a part of the whole complicated performance.
can anybody explain me why theres not to much woman who can do a quad?
Jen Carlyle S. Upper body strength also plays a big factor, which women naturally lack compared to men. Moreover, women tend to store fat in their hips and breasts, making it more difficult.
2 days ago a 13yo Alexandra Trusova landed a fully rotated quadruple salchow in competition
tendrugimichal yeah but would that count? Shes young, her body is not fully developed yet but i think if she keeps on practicing, maybe in the future she might be the first woman to land 4s perfectly
omggirl80 wow. it doesnt matter. women are stronger than girls, holy shit lmao. if she can do that at 13, imagine later on
Well 2 14 year old Russians have landed quad Lutz and quad toes
we could do without the writing in the middle of the screen so that we could actually see the jumps!!
회전수 제대로 나오는 점프가 없구만
Without a kid's body and weight, everything changed.......
2007年の練習は調子よさそうで7:39が一番いいね。だけど試合のは全部回転不足😢
mao is a genius on blades...period.............
YURI ON ICE
Yaaass hahahaha
YEEEEEEEEEEES
kwon fire!!!
No, it's not. It's a figure skater.
This is Miki on Ice, not Yuri on Ice.
WOW! a couple of times it looked like she landed them clean xD ou
@Seresu1 oh alright I understand. In that case you're right ☺
자꾸 정경미가 보인다....
なぜ安藤には4回転が跳べるのか→4回転じゃないから
Sasha Cohen's 4S is quite more aesthetically pleasant.
Piznoc Tsauo where to watch?
she could barely do it
Wow actually made it all the way around on some unlike those Russian teens doing 3.25 revs
Полоборота на льду
AND....Miki Ando has a HOT fucking body
I thought female not allowed to do quad in SP?
a h
@Seresu1 definitely agree on that. Gonna sound sexist here but it's true...it's even harder for the women
Hugh Brabyn-Jones because women are told to be thin and pretty
There are important anatomic differences, regardless of what people are told. But if you really want it dearly... Anna Shcherbakova might land two 4Lz's in her free skating 2 days from now. Kamila Valieva will definitely land two 4T's (likely 4T3T with one of these) this season. Alexandra Trusova is just moving boundaries of impossible.
And indeed did Anna Shcherbakova land these 4Lz and 4Lz3T, with GoE of 3.29 and 2.96. Mesmerizing. Not a single male succeeded with the 4Lz here (at Skate America; three tried, Nathan Chen included).
아래사람 미쳤냐
??
뭐여;; 회전수 부족이구만 일본놈은 공중에 올라지도않은거랑 반바퀴돈걸가지고 세고 앉았네;
Javier´s fake girlfriend. Why they are lying the whole time?
lola lmao 😂
엥 너무 비비는거 아닌가
@승리 ㅇㅇ 토가 빙판에서 떨어지는 순간부터 4바퀴인데!!!! 미키가 거의 다 3바퀴만 뛰네요 ㅋㅋㅋ 0.5 바퀴를 프리로테로 인정해줘도 3.5바퀴이고 4바퀴가 안 돼요 .....
많이 돌면뭐함 안이쁜데
1) Javier aka javie is gay. 2) I'm not a figure skater but for u gals out there trying to land a quad and to land it cleanly and to do it combo try this..(a Jill trenary cheat landing trick)..instead of landing on your real landing leg..land on the other leg..its already in position for u to land forward and then go up into a salchow jump..thus landing a quad combo jump....someone try and tell me if u get credit...laters
回転不足です。素人でもわかりますね。
7:10 perfect