I Added A Desktop GPU To This Mini PC And Now It's A Full On Gaming PC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2024
- I turned this already powerful mini PC into a full-blown Tiny Gaming PC!
The Minis Forum HX90 is powered by an AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX and it puts out some good gaming performance but I wanted a little bit more so I added an M.2 eGPU, Spaciffcally an Nvidia RTX 3060 using the ADT Link R3G M.2 to Pciex16 external GPU dock.
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Someone was in a real hurry editing the voice track))
Lmao i thought i was the only one who noticed that😂
@@-.......................- no it's all of us 😂LOL
Sometimes youtubers leave stuff like that in because the mistakes are funny, so it seems even more jarring when it becomes obvious it was actually a bad edit. I can't recall a time I've seen ETA make an editing mistake before though.
Hi my name is "someone who focused too much on sound" jk ur cool!!
@@wanggaard this comment aged badly, its many of his videos that have repeated words from editing failures
M.2 E-GPUs are getting popular now, I hope mini pc manufacturers would consider making an m.2 slots to be the same as MicroSD card slot so you can plug your E-GPU without making the mini pc expose its internals.
it exist, it is called thunderbolt 3.
@@javiej m.2 still outperforms TB3/4 by a non-trivial margin. It's not quite the same.
Why not just a 16x slot that hooks up to an optional stand so you can slot in a GPU into the stand like the old cartridge game consoles did. Or just hook up a riser to it.
I wish we could encourage manufacturers to give us a way to have an external 8 or 16 lane PCIe slot on these mini-PCs.
@@javiej i thought of that already but thunderbolt only gives 4 lanes of pcie which isn't enough to maximize the performance of powerful gpus.
"It makes no sense..." except when you are a mini pc enthusiast and it makes perfect sense!
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It makes sense for me! I need a gaming PC that isn't ALWAYS a gaming PC. This with a small portable monitor for work and a dedicated 3080 home with my 4k TV seems the best of everything. Just need to know how much the m.2 bottlenecks.
But it's no longer mini...
@@FinneousPJ1 how do you mean? You had to connect it to a monitor anyway, what difference is it if it stops at a gpu first? Honest question, not sarcasm. Do you mean just the principle or aesthetic? Or is there some other actual advantage to being a mini?
@@nottyseel949 I mean the footprint of the miniPC +adapter +GPU is the same as a SFF case, so you lose any advantage of this miniPC over the SFF case.
ETA PRIME hair reveal? Massive moment, this is going to be on the news. Jokes aside, this is amazing for people getting laptops and don't want to throw away their laptop when they want more power (a 5600h will last, 3050 ti won't lol)
I hope my 5600H and 3060 (130w) will last though
@@Chakeis 3060 will last for a good while, especially with dlss. Remember that a laptop screen is way smaller than a normal 24 inch fhd one, which most people use to complain about anything under dlss quality being blurry. To get the same ppi as a 24 in fhd, you can go down to 720p and still get similar quality. Also your 3060 has lots of power so I wouldn't worry about it.
I don't think you realize the editing got a bit messed up here. You repeat the same thing back to back at least a couple of times in the video. Figured you would want to know. Love the content!
It's a glitch in the Matrix.
Noticed this too. Past videos seem to also have a bit repetitive wording, which is kind of annoying. But I enjoy the content too.
I thought my phone was messing up. Rewound it to double check lol
I heard it too...I heard it too.....🙄🙄😀
Around 2:18 yeah lol
You would think these mini PC makers would finally understand some people would actually like to hook up a GPU and use them to game
"and once that and once that and once thats in place" - scratched record i think :)
I never get bored watching your video projects… so inspiring to do a build project!!!
what I like about this setup (minipc + external GPU) is it has the smallest form factor. You can come up w/ some clever and minimalistic mounting solutions. Perhaps you can mount behind the monitor / TV or under desk. Much harder to do with a mini gaming PC
And another one! Amazing ETA!
love your vids! enjoying watching your reviews of the mini pcs
What an unnecessarily complicated setup - I love it!
Its really simple 😂 just not encased
Cool! I could totally see adding a 10gig nic or a storage controller to a mini-pc with that adapter. An m.2 nvme slot is a 4 lane pcie slot in a different shape.
I like mini PCs and SBCs. Have you watched Jeff Geerling as. A raspberry pi lover, take and add unsupported graphics and modify code to get them to work?
He stretches the Raspberry Pi always. He has found many other vendor hardware that is compatible and leverages the R Pi beautifully..
You are the best! Thank you for doing this. Really interesting stuff. Subscribed
Good Livingroom Setup! And i Love that you keep the Bloopbers in your Videos 2:19 :D something like this add the right amount of spice on your Videos. Youre Awesome!
I don't know why i watch this channel...i don't game at all...but i'm ADDICTED to your videos!! I know this is a gaming oriented channel, but how would this PC perform for photo/4k video editing (may be a dumb question, I don't really keep up with computer tech much anymore)? would be nice to have a such a small rig (even including an external GPU). Thanks so much for your great content!! Have a great holiday season and 2022, I can't wait to see what you have in store for us!!
I just ordered a minisforum HX 90 512 + 32 to replace my 2013 Celeron desktop pc. Thanks for all your work, I am a fan of your videos and I like how you invent some ways to push HW to the max! Regards from Spain.
How many Spaniards watch this
@@hermenegildoc3933 Are you sure?
@@HoaxTube we not too many here
This actually makes a lot of sense. I bought a laptop and will never do so again because of the lack of upgradeability and enormous cost. However I don't want a full on tower either cause its nice to have something portable. This solves both those issues as at home I can have the most powerful graphics card available and easily upgrade it (unlike a laptop) and I can just use the built in one for travelling. All this is waaaaay cheaper than a laptop.
Facts bro I just thought of this but I didn't get the HX I got the H RIP 😢 hopefully I can still do something with it
your forget a laptop comes with display, keyboard, and a pointer.
you gonna lug around a monitor with that mini pc to class?
@@pikkyuukyuun4741 Yes they have portable monitors and I will never use a laptop keyboard I always plug my ergo in and a mouse.
glad to find your video, I bought the same adapter from amazon from the link you provided, and finally, I can game on my mini pc with an RX6600, thanks for sharing the idea.
That looks like it would be a great idea for the arcade 1 up that you shared earlier
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
I love these vids. Especially the ones with smartphones and mobile SOC's.
I've been testing Hisilcon's Kirin 9000 on a custom SBC and in the Mate 40 Pro.
The Kirin 9000/E has 15.3 Billion transistors in a 5nm package the size of a dime. That's just crazy to me. It also uses ARM's 2nd Gen Valhal ARM Mali-G78 MP24 24 core monster and 22core version in the 9000E. Its rated at 2.6TFlops of FP32 compute which is still more powerful than anything in its class. Its just made to utilize the Vulkan API and demolishes anything Vulkan based. Its like AMD's VEGA for desktop. In each of its 24 cores, it has 128 EU's or ALU's, vector units with FP16,32 and int8,16, 32 capabilities. This thing surprised me with it 3,072 EU's. Yesb it has that many. 128x24 = 3,072 EU's. It can sustain 1 Teraflop of FP32 compute at 5watts. Inside a phone but, on a open SBC it can run at it rated 2.6TFlops. I've also been testing the SD865 in the LG V60, modded with some voltage and frequency by way of BLunlock and ROOT tweaks. It has USB-c to HDMI out via the Type 3.1 port and has MicroSD expansion. It also has all the other bells and whistles like a 5000mAh battery and 2Vrms 3.5mm headphone jack with an ESS SABRE 9128 32bit qDAC. This along with the V10, V20, V40 and V60 are all capable of doing all this at a price way below anything else. These are new phones. The V60 has the SD865 and Adreno 650 though. It has just 1,024ALU's but can also sustain its 1.2TFlops with tweaks. People might think LG mobile is dead but, there anything but that. Find a phone with as many features as the LG V-series and has a SD865 SOC but, costs just $350 new. It doesn't exist.
Can't wait for USB 4 so AMD thin and light laptops can support E GPUs :p. Looking forward to you doing the tests
Congratz friend, im new in your channel and love all content.Unfortunately in my country this kind of hardware is expensive.
I'm honestly in love with this channel.
Gotta love ETA, dude delivers.
Just awesome !!
2:19 "and once that and once that and once that's in place" lol
It's actually starting to make more sense to do this with used mini PCs and older i7 laptop becoming super cheap
damn bro i cant wait for some next gen APU's imagine we could run AAA titles at max setting 60 fps 1080p without any eGPU
The next 6000 series APU should do it. 🤞
Well if we take into account the performance that steam deck seems to have which is around 40-50percent faster than the Vega 8, a 10 cu rdna2 Apu should do the trick at high settings
@@gamingoptimized But based on rumors, AMD would be using RDNA (1st Gen) for its next Zen 4 6000 Series APU's, they won't be using RDNA2.
So, something like the Steam Deck's "Zen 2 + RDNA2" won't be available for some years.
@@Sup_D that's kinda stupid, RDNA 2 has a 50 percent performance per watt improvement over RDNA 1, in apus and especially in laptop apus that is really important
@@gamingoptimized Well, according to rumors, they are going to use RDNA for the first APU's because "they have a smaller die size (compared to RDNA2), due to a lack of ray tracing logic and generally higher transistor density. And smaller die size means lower cost, and for some applications, that's the key priority."
Keep in mind, AMD APU's are generally targeted towards Business PC's, which don't usually require discrete or high-end GPU's.
The rumored APU's are supposedly code-named "Cyan Skillfish" (or its the name of the Zen + RDNA architecture).
There's a couple of huge benefits to this vs. a standard gaming machine... footprint and keeping it clean. This is way easier to just hit with the canned air every couple of days or so and keep your fans and fins looking and working great. Plus, you get to see your stuff. :)
You might as well go for a mATX build or even a Mini ITX at this point lol.
Thank you, this might save me buying a new pc for a GPU I just got.
The most portable and killer machine 🔥
Am really digging the case on this mini PC.
Living in small apartment in Japan, looks perfect. Also seeing the GPU work is cool.
Ya know what, it's not a rediculous notion. I've been looking for a laptop replacement as I work mobile professionally . I'm frequently disappointed with the gaming performance of gaming laptops in my budget. For this money, I could spend the same, and just take the mini out for work (I always plug into external screens anyway) and leave the GPU at home.
Exactly! I'm always moving for weeks at a time so I need gaming in the smallest most convenient footprint possible, but also a workstation that won't get eyebrow raises. I'd love to see this with a 3080 to see if 4k gaming is viable (not sure how much the m.2 bottlenecks).
Won't the driver had conflict though (2 different graphic drivers). I assume you must uninstall the integrated graphic driver before installing the external one
@@MrWillypanda88 well i already run a laptop with two graphics options. even the nvidia driver itself supports swapping between them, including setting which per app. Don't see it being a pain. Windows will default won't it?
@@BuzzaB77 yeah, but that's iGPU+dGPU option isn't? Between Nvidia dedicated GPU and Intel integrated graphics. I think you better confirm yourself whether plugging/unplugging is possible. Also, the M.2 connector was held by a screw, might be too much of a hassle to unplug it every time.
@@MrWillypanda88 yeah the connection would definitely be inconvenient, and probably isn't designed to last being plugged/unplugged alot
And once that's, once that, Once that's in place
I have gone Mini PC crazy i have brought 3 and on the way to a 4th a slightly older Skull canyon i7 nuc its so fun testing on these things and setting them up around the house.
Yessss. Loving thiss
I know it doesn't make sense and appreciate your honesty. But this minimalist approach is so attractive. Great demo to show it's top performance 👍
I have a setup similar to this, A Mini PC Ryzen 5 3550H with RTX2060 using ADT Link. Of course is less powerful than this, but it is way more cheaper and can run most of the games at 1080p pretty well.
This makes sense for me. I just started a career in programming. I wanted something a little more capable than a laptop with an easier upgrade path. I didn't want to buy a $1500 - $2000 laptop with a mobile 3060 or 1660, only for it to be slightly dated in a year and not replaceable. I don't game often but I enjoy the occasional Sunday Apex or Valorant session. I also needed something that I could move from my office to my master if I wanted to work in a different environment. 16g and a Ryzen 9 is perfect for me to do my actual work on. Then if needed I can upgrade storage and ram later. When it's time to game just slap on a decent GPU in there for some better frames.
I would just build a mini itx size pc. But if this works for you, that is good
Just dangling that video card in front on me like that ...... LOL!! I hate scalpers!! Awesome video as always!!
Very keen to see how this little beast handles emulation 🤠
The more modular my PC is, the better my life is. This makes tons of sense for me, thanks for this! Any idea how much the 3080 (or similar) gets bottlenecked by the m.2?
amazing videos as always, can you make a video talking about the raspberry pi boards price skyrocketing in 2021?
I want an eGPU solution like that, but over Thunderbolt, without costing a few hundo.
SAME HERE!
@@aaronmoralina is it true that through TB3/TB4 connection performance would be worse? I read this often but I've never seen a proper test out
What you want is an Intel NUC11 mini-PC.
That ADT-Link M.2 Key looks as a very good option to an Mini ITX PC Build
would be nice if they put a m.2 conection on frontal panel, something similar to card readers, and then u can just stick an egpu with no hassle
Man those temps are insane on that gpu
And once that...and once that in, and once mine comes in the mail I can't wait to set it up!
Confirmed: ETA Prime is not bald!!
He did sound bald. I was surprised.
Top channel 👌. should have subscribed long ago
Hey ETA prime, I really enjoy your videos, and it would be good if you could get yours hands on the minisforum elite mini b550. This got me pretty excited because it has a ryzen 7 5700g apu, along with a gpu dock, so you can attach your own gpu. I would be awesome if you could review it. I think the product info is on their website.
peresonally i think someone shold make a soc set up thats shaped like a gpu then have a proper psie slot on it and have a actual gpu mirroring it on the other side that would look neat as a tower pc... then the power supply on the bottom...
that would be kind of a sweet compact design... plus a gpu shroud cooler should be plenty to cool a cpu of that type...
This video just made my day just a question if it was just plug and play exprience or u used Nando's app to avoide the error 43 ???
I wonder if anyone ever runs their gpu on their desk like just for fun.. I feel like this has high potential for temp control and cool factor.. They make these gpu's look awesome only for them to be face down in the case. I for sure dont have room on my desk for my build, but i would for my gpu!
The one I saw is expensive but shout-out to you for the purchase ✊.
Hi, Could you do the same review with the new Minis forum HX99 ? Thank you ! Keep doing the good videos that you do ! Super Cool !
Already had the pc so thanks
This is the future.
outside Port for external GPU and better accessory-s for GPU connection, with Mini Game PC all in the package.
Wow, almost saw ETA Prime at 2:10
This things are awesome, you can get the adapter for as low as $35 give or take.
Now if only the thunderbolt eGPU adapter can come down in price to reasonable levels...
This gave me an idea.
I just built this but with RX6600. Getting average 90FPS. Wee~! It really helps to keep the my desk neat and clean.
I love it too, it's a pity that I live in Brazil and can't buy any of this
I did similar with a GTX1080ti and a hx90 with 32Gb ram and it works really well with great performance but the Dell DA2 cuts out if you start pushing the resolution too high. I found running a 49" ultrawide. If I ran full resolution it just couldnt cope. However with a 600W evga w2 atx psu powering the card it runs perfectly right up to 5120x1440 and still manages a steady 60fps on Forza Horizon 4 at ultra settings, which is pretty respectable for a mini PC and relatively old GPU.
how did you managed the driver set up? i can find the wright ones
Sorry for the late reply, I just used the standard current nvidia drivers. I also run msi afterburner but not for overclocking, just for a more aggressive fan curve to keep the temps down as my 1080ti is a zotac mini so can run a bit hot when gaming.
This makes sense if you already have a mini PC or if you get a good Ryzen 5 beelink on sale
5:06 20gb vram on a 3060? That's some next level binning lol
It's a pity that Jeff Gerling has still been stymied on getting the Pi CM4 to talk to GPUs. I can just see, "today we're hooking an RTX 3090 to a CM4..." /s
Id settle for a pi5 with a gpu at 1.1 gb
might as well go for a ITX full build.
I would love to see you do some builds using Pop os.
eta , i think what you wanted to say is "its only running on 4x pcie bandwidth , not the full 16x of a full slot pcie slot" cuz an nvme ssd IS using pcie lanes for connectivity , just a connector that happens to be named m.2 . ps always loved your videos even if i got frustrated a couple times because you never made a clear video on how to rip your own games for gamecube wiiu etc and be able to play on your pc on an emulator . cheers from a passionate gamer .
The reason why is because if you rip it yourself, you have to go through a lot of work to mod your console(s), it's a different process between each console (some are way more involved than others), and there are guides all over the internet for this.
I know, really old comment, but for anyone who still cares about doing this for yourself I'd recommend GBATemp for some really useful guides and links to modding your consoles.
I have the hx90 and a radeon xt 6800 that is not in use really. Thanks for the video!
The gpu usage is always in the 90s. I think you could even go with a stronger gpu 🤯 absolute madness is what this mini pc is
Awesome
2:17
THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!
Excelent.
Kinda has a Max Headroom kind of sound!!
"But so far it's actually functioning quite well. But so far it's actually functioning quite well." ... dude did the matrix just glitch?
Hey bro. Typo in description. I think you meant "specifically" and there must've been a transcoding error as there is a triple stutter around 2:19 mark. And in several other spots on audio track for this one. Cheers.
I have dell laptop. Intel 8750h, 2060rtx. Man this thing is hot and loud. Put liquid metal, temps dropped by 15c, but it lasted for about half a year. Tried reapplying lm, didn't help. And now it got even worse. I want laptop internals, but with much better cooling, quiet and effective. Mini pcs seem like a good option, and they are lighter. Only it's rare to find one with a good gpu. The ones that on the market are super over priced. Minisforum looks promising. Hope eventually they will add powerful mobile gpu.
I can't wait for iG to be good. The 3060 really smoked the onboard in benchmarks and play.
Have a great day.
Hey man, love the video, think it would be possible to use the Razer core X for easy connecting via the usb c?
Nice intro :)
on my laptop, disabling the iGPU actually decreases CPU performance for some reason. might be smart shift related....
Emulators with this setup, please! Let's go, ETA PRIME!!!
i wonder how this would go as a streaming pc in a dual pc setup, using a capture card instead of the gpu and the APU only
Hey ETA PRIME can you do a review on a Intel NUC on this setup or Intel MINI PC. Cool REVIEW!
I Love Tiny Computer
This is a dope setup.
The 80gbps Thunderbolt 5 spec is going to make eGPU gaming the best approach thanks to eliminating the current 40gbps bottlenecks.
Thunderbolt 5 is currently being developed by Intel and will be exclusive to next gen Intel based systems.
felt like a twilight zone episode when u kept repeating stuff
Mini forum should sell a modular setup like this, with proper cable and easy and robust plug
Isn't an ultra compact SFF PC with a single PSU and cable be a neater option than this abomination?
Could you do one with the inwin chopin case with 5700g cpu using the back m.2 slot which require a little bit of modding. Kinda curious on how it would perform.
3:42 "But so far, it's actually been functioning quite well. But so far, it's actually been functioning quite _well"_
Me: relieved by the assurance that's it's functioning pretty d*** well
How does this compare to the Beelink GR 9 ?
Unfortunately I don't know how to build a computer so I'm stuck having to purchase one. I'm thinking about doing the same thing you showed with attaching a dedicated external gpu, how much was the one you show in the video.
If this is any help in regards to what I'll be using this computer, primarily for....
Video DJing (1080 mp4 vids), music production, streaming and running a radio station once I get the studio fully equipped.
It would be awesome if they put a mobile graphics chip in these mini PC's. Like this with a mobile 3070 or a 6800m. Seems like it would be a good alternative to a prebuilt.
Alienware already did. I bought recently one for £120. They used to come with Steam Os but they switched to Windows. They can play titles before 2015
I like this approach and the video is great. But in terms of portability I think there is room for improvement: Have you considered adding a pico psu such as HDPLEX? it is a tiny little thing that gives you the ability to use standard 20V chargers that are much smaller than the old 12V Dell brick.
Also, using an Intel NUC 11th gen can cut the mini-pc size to half without any performance impact, while giving you the ability to connect the adt-link via thunderbolt 3 by just adding a NVme to thunderbolt 3 adapter.
Intel NUC11 mini-PCs support Thunderbolt 4
@@Patrick73787 My NUC 11th is the i3 model, which has one TB3 port and one TB4 port . But the speed is the same, so I use the TB3 for the adt-link, to save the extra flexibility of the tb4 for other purposes. So that's why I mentioned tb3.
Several double statements one after the other in this vid. You feelin alright boss? xD
He's forgot to edit. Must have been short on time.
It's how you do overdub dialog. If you mess up you just repeat and then hopefully you spot the same shape waveform in the editor so you can chop em out.
I thought I was hearing things, why is he saying everything twice, saying everything twice.
@@gtech66 wait, why do I read you twice? wait, why do I read you twice?