I have the Picopresso and love it. I also have the 1ZPresso K-Plus. I’ve seen a few manual grinder reviews and none of them have made me regret buying the K-Plus.
Nice! I bought the Picopresso since I love the Nanopresso. I am having trouble getting the crema on it with the Pico. I am saving up for the grinder you have as I think my crappy Mr coffee grinder is the problem. My Nanopresso makes the best espresso for that grinder but it also could do much better with a better grinder.
I've just hit my 1st year on my Cafelat Robot. I still love the brewer, preheating the portafilter and screen with the steam from my Stagg unlocked the kind of light roasts that made me fall in love with espresso. Really love the control and quick workflow with it.
Very clear and concise video, man. I’m digging it. Thanks for getting this together! It’s so rad that you create coffee content based on what your following is interested in. Cheers, my friend!
I’ve had the JX for over a year now. Got it based of your opinion from watching your vids. I love love love it. Thank you so much for your honest advice.
Went with a 1ZPresso K-Max and it was great! Brought it everyday if I needed a grinder in a pinch through barista training, and used it for my routine for my finals. They're so versatile and reliable that they're just great grinders even if you have a great electric grinder as your main. I find it better than even the C40 IF you're using it for other brew methods/you're using it for work because I find it way easier to calibrate for multiple brew methods. Though I still prefer the C40 if you're purely making espresso.
@@KyleRowsell yeah it's been a blast! Getting it also meant I can stop bothering my brother to lend me his C40 when I go to class/need a secondary grinder. Love your videos, man. Definitely adds to my understanding and curiosity about coffee even as I pursue a career in the industry! Much love from The Philippines!
There's so many new grinders coming onto the market and I have the exact same evaluation procedure for all of them. I load a video from a trusted reviewer (in this case Kyle) and then open a new tab and google the product to find the product page and look for grind adjustment. If that number is above 15 - 20µ I immediately decide I'm not interested and then go back to the video and watch it anyways simply because I enjoy their content. Thanks for the review! Hope to see more in the future.
Ahh that rubber sleeve loosening on the 1zpresso drives me nuts! I’ve seen the same thing happen on so many other review models 😤 Cleaning and soaking the sleeve in a baking soda water solution helps regain that grip for a bit but it’s temporary. They really need to source a more durable material or change it altogether.
I was starting to want a picopresso for the office and travel...instead I got a gaggia classic to mod. I guess I need to get a pelican case for it at some point so I can still travel with it. The Decent Espressso Suitcase doesn't quite fit in overhead compartments for flights.
I got a Picopresso as a first espresso maker and I love it. The workflow is pretty tedious bit I've also been looking at the Gaggia Classic as an upgrade, how is it?
@@thatroykid I’ve only used it for two shots so far as it’s living in my office. Coming off of the Decent espresso machine I’m very pleasantly surprised at the gaggia. I got it used for $100 used with plans fo mod with full flow and pressure control. If it were my first semi-auto machine I’d be pleased. I’m mostly excited for its modding potential
@@MWSJoey I love modding things so thats whats making me consider the Gaggia. I really like the Decent's but they're so damn expensive, its just not in my budget right now.
The wacaco exagrind was on my list of hand grinders including the 1zpresso, but in the end, i decided to splurge and go for the C40 Mk4, which immediately, i noticed the upgrade in flavour compared to the Timemore C3, that i was using before. totally enjoying Comandante C40 results and no regret!
Great comparison! I agree with you about the superior build with the 1zpresso grinders . My K-pro is my travel grinder of choice, and together with an aeropress + prismo it makes travel ”espresso” a real treat!
Did you notice the rubber sliding during grinding. Mine slides up since I got it which is annoying since I have to stop to readjust it so it doesn’t block the handle
I got a 1zpresso JX Pro for my Picopresso (this didn't exist at the time or I probably would have gotten it). It ended up being so good that I use it for my BBE and V60 too.
I have a tricked out early model slayer, classic that I really love. But it isn’t super portable, so the Picopresso and nanopresso is starting to look appealing.
Started out with a Helor 101 and a 9Barista. That combination produced some good shots and was an excellent learning experience. I've since upgraded to a Breville Barista Pro and have replaced my daily Aeropress with an Americano made on the Pro. The lattes that I've made recently far outshine what I've had in cafes. Now to work on latte art.
I haven't used it since I got the Barista Pro. The 9Barista makes some excellent drinks but I really like having a build-in grinder and all the other conveniences of a "normal" espresso machine. I haven't tried a picopresso.
Nice sound design on that intro 👌😉 Production value is 💯🔥 I’ve had the Lido E for about 6 years now, back when it was Commandante, kinu and Orphan espresso. Not I have the Saint Anthony Industries Millwright grinder. It’s awesome, but I would definitely recommend normcore, or exa to a new coffee person.
I've been trying to find the wording but it'd be helpful for the gear buyers syndrome if we can get a numerical value in quality... like these are similar and the differences are like 20 percent better. It's super subjective but yeah. These vids are great to watch but often I feel like my gear isn't good enough when I'm reality the differences are inches on a mile
Awesome vid as usual. It's great to see Wacaco making new stuff. Where would the 1Zpresso Q2 Heptagonal fit between these grinders ? At a 100$, Is it better than the Wacaco / Normcore and would it still be way worth it to jump to the JX instead ? Thanks !
Awesome video, been using mine for the past month and have enjoyed it. How do you take this apart to clean the exagrind? I assume fine grinds will build up over time between the burrs and grind adjustment
I have a Breville Infuser machine and am looking for a very good espresso grinder. Hoping for something under $950 CAD that gives good clarity, more texture, and brings out the beans complex notes. I only would use it for espresso and often only grind 19g to 38g/day. Any recommendations for a solid hand grinder or electric grinder that fits this purpose, Kyle?
Flair 58 v2.0 x halfstep modded comandante c 40 mk3 inside, picopresso x Hept Q2 outside :D thats what i got at least id like to upgrde my grinder to one in the 1zpresso heptagonal 48mm range though. Update: got a jx-pro secondhand, and enjoy it even more than my comandante 😍
you said espresso brewer? We have a Decent. We haven't traveled in a long time, doubt we'd try to brew or press if and when we do travel. & we use Flair58 too but less often than Decent. Grinders we use for espresso, mostly Option-O Lagom P64, sometimes a Niche.
LOL! OMG! You must have read my mind - been looking for exactly this the last few weeks! Have any thoughts on the 48mm contenders like the Kingrinder K2/3 (the Arco is too big..)?
Hi.Thanks for the great video. Would you recommend Wacaco exagrind for somebody who has a dedica 685? I'm not a very picky espresso drinker. I've recently bought a naked portafilter for my machine . So I'm gonna use my 685 with its standatd pressurized basket or with my new naked portafilter.
The Kingrinder K4 costs the same (even less in aliexpress sales) and offers many advantages: 48mm titanium coated burrs, external grind level adjustment similar to 1Zpresso higher end J-Max and K-Plus, 16 micron steps, robust enough to officially support the use of electrical screwdrivers. I love Wacaco (the Picopresso is amazing in so many ways), but the Exagrind is nowhere near the K4, at least in terms of features and value.
@@Yirgamalabar they have a 48mm burr too. Unless Amazon is incorrect. It looks very similar to the jx style burr from photos I’ve seen. Excited to test it.
Kyle! I'm torn and I'd love your input, if you'd be buying and choosing - Comandante C40 or....? Even though I'd be mainly using it for travel with picopresso, I want it to be versatile for espresso, v60s, flair and so on. Kinda like buy once and forget it for all methods. What you'd be buying?
Why nobody try the Timemore C3 Pro? is even cheaper than this one and seems to work with espresso... haha maybe timemore is being underrated in pourpose 😅🤣
Great video as always! A cupping probably isn’t the best way to compare two grinders because of how forgiving cupping is to grind size. Espresso or filter is better (though understandably hard to be consistent between brews).
First, thank you! Second, a cupping is the gold standard to remove any additional variables. Done properly it will be a magnifying glass to astringency, acidity etc
Oh yeah They seem to love suing everyone that joins the competition haha Btw I own a C40 and really like it. Just not as much as I love my Kplus. A superior grinder on every aspect.
Really enjoy your video Kyle. Just bought a little bambino espresso machine. On a budget (senior stuffs) i think I'm going to wait the little extra and buy that JX grinder. It seems to stand the test of all reviews....and this will be a very educational experience going forward. Thank you!!
Is it time to revisit the budget hand grinder showdown? Hept Q2, Kingrind, normcore 48mm… etc. LET ME KNOW
yes pls
Timemore C3 maybe?
please review kingrinder k2
The heptagonal Q2 absolutely demolished everything else if you can actually get your hands on it.
@@Andrew-wp1bz I’ve already done a video on it! But I gave it away to a patreon. Time to purchase one again…
I’m sorry. That intro was super bowl commercial level. Whoever does your editing is incredibly gifted!
I do my own editing :) Thanks for watching!
I have the Picopresso and love it. I also have the 1ZPresso K-Plus. I’ve seen a few manual grinder reviews and none of them have made me regret buying the K-Plus.
Kplus is fantastic! You shouldn’t regret it!
K series by 1Zpresso are the best hand grinders on the market today
Nice! I bought the Picopresso since I love the Nanopresso. I am having trouble getting the crema on it with the Pico. I am saving up for the grinder you have as I think my crappy Mr coffee grinder is the problem. My Nanopresso makes the best espresso for that grinder but it also could do much better with a better grinder.
I've just hit my 1st year on my Cafelat Robot. I still love the brewer, preheating the portafilter and screen with the steam from my Stagg unlocked the kind of light roasts that made me fall in love with espresso. Really love the control and quick workflow with it.
I miss my robot!
Very clear and concise video, man. I’m digging it. Thanks for getting this together! It’s so rad that you create coffee content based on what your following is interested in. Cheers, my friend!
Thank you Jacob! I agree... it's such an honour to make this content for all y'all. I don't take it for granted.
That looks awesome! Great video as usual. Your positivity is contagious, and is deeply needed at these times.
Oh, it’s my greatest pleasure. I love y’all. Truly 🙂
I’ve had the JX for over a year now. Got it based of your opinion from watching your vids. I love love love it. Thank you so much for your honest advice.
My pleasure my friend
Would love to see your review on the new 1Zpresso X-Pro, I wonder if you'll swap the JX for it!
I truly want to try it!
Welp, a love my barista express for what it is, learned to make it the best it can be with tools, knowledge and technique
Love that lance. The most important aspect of brewing better coffee. Far more important than new gear.
New studio layout looking 🔥!
Thank you friend, I’m so glad you like it!
Can't believe this is the 100th vid! Such a long way! Cheers for a 100 more!
Wow.. didn't even realize! Thank you!!!
Went with a 1ZPresso K-Max and it was great! Brought it everyday if I needed a grinder in a pinch through barista training, and used it for my routine for my finals. They're so versatile and reliable that they're just great grinders even if you have a great electric grinder as your main. I find it better than even the C40 IF you're using it for other brew methods/you're using it for work because I find it way easier to calibrate for multiple brew methods. Though I still prefer the C40 if you're purely making espresso.
Agreed. The kmax is a wonderful grinder and easy to swap between brews.
@@KyleRowsell yeah it's been a blast! Getting it also meant I can stop bothering my brother to lend me his C40 when I go to class/need a secondary grinder. Love your videos, man. Definitely adds to my understanding and curiosity about coffee even as I pursue a career in the industry! Much love from The Philippines!
There's so many new grinders coming onto the market and I have the exact same evaluation procedure for all of them. I load a video from a trusted reviewer (in this case Kyle) and then open a new tab and google the product to find the product page and look for grind adjustment. If that number is above 15 - 20µ I immediately decide I'm not interested and then go back to the video and watch it anyways simply because I enjoy their content. Thanks for the review! Hope to see more in the future.
The only part I'm confused about is that you say it has 30 clicks but on the product page it says 60.
Ahh that rubber sleeve loosening on the 1zpresso drives me nuts! I’ve seen the same thing happen on so many other review models 😤 Cleaning and soaking the sleeve in a baking soda water solution helps regain that grip for a bit but it’s temporary. They really need to source a more durable material or change it altogether.
I added a thick rubber band at the top of the grip and that keeps it in place
Ha! Just shows I USE it 💪🏼
Your B-roll game has got so good
Appreciate it!
I was starting to want a picopresso for the office and travel...instead I got a gaggia classic to mod. I guess I need to get a pelican case for it at some point so I can still travel with it. The Decent Espressso Suitcase doesn't quite fit in overhead compartments for flights.
I got a Picopresso as a first espresso maker and I love it. The workflow is pretty tedious bit I've also been looking at the Gaggia Classic as an upgrade, how is it?
A gaggia and pico are very different but love that you found something that you enjoy. You’re travelling on flights with a gaggia?!
@@KyleRowsell not yet, but it’s in the works. Parts coming in to do the gaggiuino mod and then I’ll look into a custom flight compliant pelican case.
@@thatroykid I’ve only used it for two shots so far as it’s living in my office. Coming off of the Decent espresso machine I’m very pleasantly surprised at the gaggia. I got it used for $100 used with plans fo mod with full flow and pressure control. If it were my first semi-auto machine I’d be pleased. I’m mostly excited for its modding potential
@@MWSJoey I love modding things so thats whats making me consider the Gaggia. I really like the Decent's but they're so damn expensive, its just not in my budget right now.
The wacaco exagrind was on my list of hand grinders including the 1zpresso, but in the end, i decided to splurge and go for the C40 Mk4, which immediately, i noticed the upgrade in flavour compared to the Timemore C3, that i was using before. totally enjoying Comandante C40 results and no regret!
Enjoy! I love my comandante it’s the results it creates.
Great comparison! I agree with you about the superior build with the 1zpresso grinders . My K-pro is my travel grinder of choice, and together with an aeropress + prismo it makes travel ”espresso” a real treat!
I’ve got the almost exact same setup, except the grinder is the J-MAX. I grabbed the Prismo to avoid the need to travel with the paper filters.
1zpresso is a different breed
Another Cafelat Robot. Absolutely love it, so easy and low maintenance.
Super helpful to see it next to the 1Zprezzo JX. Thanks!
Glad to help 😄
Man those B-Roll shots are freaking amazing.. do you do them all yourself? Also quality content as always 😎
I do. I’m a one man show 🤓
Did you notice the rubber sliding during grinding. Mine slides up since I got it which is annoying since I have to stop to readjust it so it doesn’t block the handle
Knowing that Kyle loves me makes my coffee taste just that bit sweeter
❤️
I got a 1zpresso JX Pro for my Picopresso (this didn't exist at the time or I probably would have gotten it). It ended up being so good that I use it for my BBE and V60 too.
I have a tricked out early model slayer, classic that I really love. But it isn’t super portable, so the Picopresso and nanopresso is starting to look appealing.
Love the lighting in this video
That's a like before I see it. I personally requested it from you so thank you for that!!
I use the picopresso regularly so I wanted the perfect grinder to go with it. Great vid!
Thanks for watching mark!
@@KyleRowsellThank you! Patreon link not working btw!
@@markalfons2020 it seems to work for me? What happens when you click?
Started out with a Helor 101 and a 9Barista. That combination produced some good shots and was an excellent learning experience. I've since upgraded to a Breville Barista Pro and have replaced my daily Aeropress with an Americano made on the Pro. The lattes that I've made recently far outshine what I've had in cafes. Now to work on latte art.
Do you still enjoy the 9Barista? Also have you tried picopresso?
I haven't used it since I got the Barista Pro. The 9Barista makes some excellent drinks but I really like having a build-in grinder and all the other conveniences of a "normal" espresso machine. I haven't tried a picopresso.
I'm going to be honest- my favourite is moka, cause it's easy in the morning and out of easy morning options I like coffee that it makes the most.
My local which is a 7 min walk is my espresso choice.
What’s it called?
Yo I've been using the flair pro2. It's the only espresso brewer I've ever had or used (long time filter coffee boy) and I'm loving the journey.
Right on!
I was waiting for this review. Thanks Sir Kyle for the video!
My pleasure
What is that apparatus behind your right shoulder? Roaster? Thanks for the review.
Yes a roaster!
Nice! Can’t wait for that content! I’ve been toying with the idea but I am a hack so not sure how it’ll work out. 😀
@@db7069 lots of roasting content incoming
loving my new flair neo, and am excited about these coffee grinders that would help me in some of the flairs upgrades in the future!
Neo is a great little brewer ❤️
I thought that Escarpment Coffee Roasters were iDrinkCoffee? But the bag looks different. I'm curious about the coffee you used, Kyle?
It’s neither of those. It’s escape from Montreal
@@KyleRowsell Lol. My brain filled in what was not there. Cool! I love that you try different coffees :)!
Nice sound design on that intro 👌😉
Production value is 💯🔥
I’ve had the Lido E for about 6 years now, back when it was Commandante, kinu and Orphan espresso.
Not I have the Saint Anthony Industries Millwright grinder. It’s awesome, but I would definitely recommend normcore, or exa to a new coffee person.
Appciate the kind words Braxton! Means the world, truly!
I don't have a lot of experience with espresso makers, but I love my Flair Pro 2 with an 1zpresso K-Max
Right on! Enjoy Alan! Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for your honest opinion 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😃
I've been trying to find the wording but it'd be helpful for the gear buyers syndrome if we can get a numerical value in quality... like these are similar and the differences are like 20 percent better. It's super subjective but yeah. These vids are great to watch but often I feel like my gear isn't good enough when I'm reality the differences are inches on a mile
Awesome vid as usual. It's great to see Wacaco making new stuff.
Where would the 1Zpresso Q2 Heptagonal fit between these grinders ? At a 100$, Is it better than the Wacaco / Normcore and would it still be way worth it to jump to the JX instead ?
Thanks !
I hope the Q2 is better. I just ordered one.
@@RoninDosho I think it is but really unsure. The Q2 is really tempting, still think you'll get the most out of it though so no regrets 🤙
Q2 is unreal. Especially if you can find the hept. Which is readily available again.
@@KyleRowsell Awesome. Thanks again !
Q2 no other is as good in the budget range
Awesome video, been using mine for the past month and have enjoyed it. How do you take this apart to clean the exagrind? I assume fine grinds will build up over time between the burrs and grind adjustment
Any plans to review the staresso mirage against the picopresso?
Not currently but if there’s enough interest possibly
I have a Breville Infuser machine and am looking for a very good espresso grinder. Hoping for something under $950 CAD that gives good clarity, more texture, and brings out the beans complex notes. I only would use it for espresso and often only grind 19g to 38g/day.
Any recommendations for a solid hand grinder or electric grinder that fits this purpose, Kyle?
1zpresso jmax
1zpresso Q2 heptacore
Flair 58 v2.0 x halfstep modded comandante c 40 mk3 inside, picopresso x Hept Q2 outside :D
thats what i got at least id like to upgrde my grinder to one in the 1zpresso heptagonal 48mm range though.
Update: got a jx-pro secondhand, and enjoy it even more than my comandante 😍
My fav for the time being is the Cafflano Kompresso (it’s the only espresso-type device I own for now)
Enjoy my friend!
Would like to see the Mavo Wizard reviewed. Under $85CDN with delivery and taxes. It sets a different bar when is comes to accessibility.
I’ll check it out Ian!
“Wacaco Picopresso” is extremely fun to say
Say it 20 times fast
you said espresso brewer? We have a Decent. We haven't traveled in a long time, doubt we'd try to brew or press if and when we do travel. & we use Flair58 too but less often than Decent. Grinders we use for espresso, mostly Option-O Lagom P64, sometimes a Niche.
Thanks for sharing Sim!
LOL! OMG! You must have read my mind - been looking for exactly this the last few weeks! Have any thoughts on the 48mm contenders like the Kingrinder K2/3 (the Arco is too big..)?
I’ll make some videos on the kingrinder in the future! Enjoy!
How did you get ahold of an AT-AT for your new studio setup?
Called up palpatine for a favour
JX-Pro vs K-Max what do you prefer?
Hi Kyle,
Love your videos.
I ended up buying the Normcore, how many clicks would you recommend for Aeropress and V60 please?
Hi.Thanks for the great video. Would you recommend Wacaco exagrind for somebody who has a dedica 685? I'm not a very picky espresso drinker. I've recently bought a naked portafilter for my machine . So I'm gonna use my 685 with its standatd pressurized basket or with my new naked portafilter.
can you recommend the exagrind for pour over? I happened to have wacoco cuppamoka please help. thank you.
I'd love to see a comparison between kingrinder and 1zpresso. They're the two giants in affordable grinders imo
Very true!
1Zpresso is a better quality product.
Thanks for another great video!
Thank you for watching!
How does the Exagrind compare to the Vssl Java?
The Kingrinder K4 costs the same (even less in aliexpress sales) and offers many advantages: 48mm titanium coated burrs, external grind level adjustment similar to 1Zpresso higher end J-Max and K-Plus, 16 micron steps, robust enough to officially support the use of electrical screwdrivers. I love Wacaco (the Picopresso is amazing in so many ways), but the Exagrind is nowhere near the K4, at least in terms of features and value.
I hope to give it a look. Normcore has also released a 48mm burr grinder at around $100.
@@KyleRowsell I think the new Normcore uses 44mm burrs. I wonder who they sourced them from? Not a common diameter.
@@Yirgamalabar they have a 48mm burr too. Unless Amazon is incorrect. It looks very similar to the jx style burr from photos I’ve seen. Excited to test it.
Please i need information...how much rotation needed for grind 18g of coffe?
is this grinder good for moka pot and french press?i have hario slim plus and want upgrade
Can you review the Kingrinder K2 as well?
Kyle! I'm torn and I'd love your input, if you'd be buying and choosing - Comandante C40 or....? Even though I'd be mainly using it for travel with picopresso, I want it to be versatile for espresso, v60s, flair and so on. Kinda like buy once and forget it for all methods. What you'd be buying?
Are you asking this vs c40? Or JX vs c40?
@@KyleRowsell no, anything from Kinu to K-max, what would be your choice? do you think comandante's results in the cup justifies its price tag?
1z Q2 hepta
My favorite shots have been from my buddies flair neo
Rad 🔥
You should totally do a staresso sp300 the pro version vs picopresso.. staresso has very good review among the asian community.
Maybe I will!
@@KyleRowsell fyi, i am able to use bottomless 51mm vst basket.
Why nobody try the Timemore C3 Pro? is even cheaper than this one and seems to work with espresso... haha maybe timemore is being underrated in pourpose 😅🤣
Great video as always!
A cupping probably isn’t the best way to compare two grinders because of how forgiving cupping is to grind size. Espresso or filter is better (though understandably hard to be consistent between brews).
First, thank you!
Second, a cupping is the gold standard to remove any additional variables. Done properly it will be a magnifying glass to astringency, acidity etc
Definitely LaPavoni Europiccola :D
Very informative video. I have a question. Do you know how many clicks to grind espresso for picopresso?
Around 15. Give or take
@@KyleRowsell great, thanks! 🙏🏼
@@Intentional_soundscapes13 welcome!
Kyle, can you do a new shootout with the new Time more C3 Pro?
I will be soon
@@KyleRowsell Sweeet ☺️
Waiting for Comandante to start a lawsuit against WACACO.
Oh yeah
They seem to love suing everyone that joins the competition haha
Btw I own a C40 and really like it. Just not as much as I love my Kplus. A superior grinder on every aspect.
Dude! Is that a Sniper? :P Going to be doing some roasting vids soon? :D
Yes it is 😊
Really enjoy your video Kyle. Just bought a little bambino espresso machine. On a budget (senior stuffs) i think I'm going to wait the little extra and buy that JX grinder. It seems to stand the test of all reviews....and this will be a very educational experience going forward. Thank you!!
I hope you enjoy friend!
@@KyleRowsell well if I have questions, I know you got the answers...lol....great station Kyle
Flair Pro 2!
Right on!
Does it fit inside an aeropress plunger?
unfortunately not.
@@KyleRowsell thanks for the checking.
@@PrinceAndTheHarper my pleasure
Lelit Bianca club here 👌
It's a good club
Flair pro2 😎
Nice!
Why this when the king grinder k6 is in the same price bracket.
Might be time to do another budget grinder showdown
@@KyleRowsell Yes, please! I'll love to hear your opinions on Kingrinder K4 (or K6) because looks like the natural competition to a 1zpresso 🙂
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I’ve got one of these and it is sooooo rubbish inconsistent grind far to coarse for espresso or their equally rubbish picopresso