So, you will never buy a keyboard again, because you already have a keyboard. Haha, wow, very deep thinking. When I saw that title, I was expecting something entirely different.
Finally someone who has a sense of humour. But honestly I wouldn’t spent 5k on any keyboard/ stage piano / workstation nowadays. I do own the Roland V-Piano which came out in 2009.
Nice. And you are right. I’ve enjoyed the software and controller route with my MacBook pros for over 12 years. Each keyboard I’ve bought in that time frame has not quite measured up to my virtual setup unless it offered hybrid setup or audio interface or DAW specific features.
Same, ive been using vsts live for over 10 years, it's at the point now I feel comfortable fading out my hardware workstations and just using a controller and mainstage.
Software instruments plus laptop is great alternative to keyboard workstation in a studio. In a real world live playing setting, they are often a pain. When things go wrong, it’s a nightmare to troubleshoot different hardware and plugin. Another issue is the velocity mapping. Different MIDI controllers and softwares are often not well tested and integrated. Each giving uneven response, sometimes totally unplayable.
Well, I own the V-Piano and live I use the SL 88 Grand MIDI controller. Regarding posibile crashes, I always have a backup. That’s why I switched to Mac. My Windows laptop crashed too many times but luckily it never happened live.
great music! I bought synthsizers couse of Pc couldnt handle some processor burning vsts together. But for few instruments (tones or romplers) it is great, and also for the effects.(IMHO)
Keyboard workstations lock up in live situations too. I had a Kronos ( which is basically a computer in a keyboard housing lock up on me at a gig. Fortunately I was able to reboot it and finish the gig with it. Another problem with keyboard workstations is bringing them in for repair and parts availability. Also there seems to be fewer authorized repair centers
The keyboard sounds are all from Spectrasonics. You can download the product online. It’s called Keyscape. The strings and pads are from the Crowhill Company. The main pad is from u-he and the plugin is called Hive 2. The drum groove is made with Superior Drummer from Toontrack.
I am happy using software and hardware. I mean, I don’t think a plugin really replaces a good analog synth, specially vintage synths or modern synths like Prophet 5 rev 4. But for acoustic sounds, sound libraries are way better in general, except for some sounds like Nord organs, or Yamaha electric pianos which could be as good as them.
Beautiful sounds. Beautiful playing. 👌 Had not heard of String Murmurations before, but seems interesting. Am looking into it, but can you affect the accompanying strings by how you play or is it randomly responding to the harmonies?
You can select and automate the key and you can affect the phrases depending on how long you hold the chords. It’s not random but you have a lot of presets to choose from. You can also velocity trigger the melodic gestures.
Alright I’ll bite here. It seems based on your comments in here and even the name of your channel, that you are mainly referring to workstation keyboards. I fully understand why you might feel this way about them, but regardless, they still have their place. Live music for instance. Lugging a laptop to a gig is a pain. That said, not every keyboard is created equal. There are some boards out there that are unique and have their own sound. Things like the Waldorf Quantum, Oberheim SEM, Prophets, Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave. Sorry but your “blanket” statement doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense.
I agree with you that some hardware instruments are legendary but most aren’t. Even for live performances it’s easier to have 20 instruments in my computer instead of having to bring them with me.
Haven’t personally tried it. I would assume they have the best technology in their flagship grand but for that price I would honestly look for an acustic grand.
@sale6257 Listening to the demos online I can hear the similar tone qualities the German Concert has. I think the keybed is superior. But I wouldn’t pay that amount of money for an instrument that still doesn’t come close to an acustic piano.
@@rolandv-piano Thank you, Mr. V, for sharing your views. In addition, I heard the introducer call the third sound he played in a YT GP9 introduction video the German Concert
You don’t need my setup to be able to do this. A Mac M2 laptop is a few grand and other than that you only need Keyscape and a MIDI controller. The software that I’m showing in this video is about 1k including the DAW.
@@rolandv-piano No each sound doesn't use 256 polyphony. And I did not hear 16 layers in what you played unless it was subtle. I am just agreeing with you if I had a laptop, my Studio One and the Yamaha MODX7, I could pull it off that way to adding my VST's to the overall. I only have 2 keyboards myself, mostly VST's. I am a classical/jazz player so my RD88 with PH4 feels great for piano and my MODX7 for the rest. With laptop, VST's and 2 synths, it is about 4K. I have a lot of high level VST's like East West, Diva, Pigments, Spire, Addictive Keys, etc.
And Yamaha sells Genos for $5.5+ K ! Irony. With this price, you get a powerful computer, dozens of soft synths, dozens of piano libraries, a quality midi keyboard, quality midi controllers and there'll still be some money left.
Exactly, I guess they target a different audience and take advantage of them by using false advertising. They’ll have another model in 3 years from now.
Yeah, such ridiculously overpriced instruments. Genos are nothing more than a glorified sampler with MIDI styles. If I want a Genos, I would just buy the next SX series. Yamaha should focus on making decent affordable arrangers rather than extorting customers luring them to spend an arm for just a few better sounds.
Não sinto força em instrumentos virtuais. A base, a força da música ainda está nos sintetizadores analógicos. O resto pode apenas complementar. É difícil pensar em uma música feita por teclados que não possua, pelo menos, 70% de sons analógicos.
I started to use VSTs live many years ago, because no hammond organ on workstations could compare to my first version of Vintage Organs by Native Instruments. With years we see always better plugins and obsolete workstations coming out. No workstation can compete with plugins like Keyscape or Omnisphere. Or IK Multimedia Hammond B3X. Incredible news: if you buy an hardware Yamaha MontageM they give you a plugin of that. See the trend? Simulations are better on real computers than on embedded computers (contemporary workstations have a CPU and an operating system). If you build a system with a host like GigPerformer and some VSTs you get a sound quality and an automation level that no workstation can offer. Try for yourself. Yes, you need a computer and you must learn to use it. Sorry guys, it's 21st century...
Your computer will become obsolete, lost in the ever-growing sea of e-waste. Meanwhile, my analog synth will continue to produce beautiful sounds, cherished by those who appreciate its timeless value. Your little plugin that shows you a photo of a prophet 10 when you load it up is not the same.
I have no problem with you owning a prophet. This video was meant for people who buy “workstations” and “arrangers”. I use my computer for a variety of tasks not just music. You’ll need a computer anyway for recording and video editing. Nothing lasts forever whether it’s my computer or your type of “e-waste” ;)
I agree. Some of my hardware synths are still going strong after 40 years! But with software and computers I used in the last 20 years, you can be happy if a certain set-up lasts you about 5-6 years. Then a software update or hardware crash will make your old set-up obsolete and you need to look for a modern replacement.
@@MacXpert74 yall just don't know what a computer is or how it works. Treat it the same as your hardware synth. Don't change your setup or update it ever, and it will work better than your hardware synth and for longer. It will never go out of tune. It will have repeatable settings. You will never have to clean or replace pots. hardware synths are fun and it is a good feeling to have real knobs to play with. But acting like you're better just because you spent more money, or acting like the software instruments are worse just to justify the money you spent is a bad take. And realize that unless you're talking about an analog synth, the rest of them are just specific software that doesn't get updates in a specific computer made for it. No different whatsoever from your computer at home except for how you treat it and use it.
@@smugler1 "Don't change your setup or update it ever, and it will work better than your hardware synth and for longer." I have to disagree. This doesn't work for most people, as computers are multi-purpose and require to be up to date to be able to use online services for instance. And even if you if you don't update anything, hardly any computer will last you as long as a hardware synths. Harddisks for instance have a limited lifespan, even the SSD type. If it lasts 10 years, you're already pushing it. Not so much with hardware synths. More than 25 years lifespan is not uncommon at all for hardware synths. As I said some of my synths are over 40 years old and still work good. Modern CPUs are more fragile than old generation stuff and will not last as long as an old Z80 or something you might find in an old synth. So NO, a computer will NOT last as long, not even close!! "But acting like you're better just because you spent more money" here you're just projecting. I never made any claims about 'superiority'. This comment is just silly and basically ruins your otherwise reasonable comment. "unless you're talking about an analog synth" Yes I'm talking about analog synths, not so much digital workstations which are indeed more like computer inside a keyboard.
I agree with you. I can’t even open certain projects because my DAW was updated and the versions are not compatible. Also there’s and advanced to virtual instruments regarding space, maintenance and logistics when performing live. I wish I could have all acustic, analog and digital instruments that I like. But we have to work with what we have. And limitations are not always bad.
That’s fine for home or studio use but gigging with mouse clicks, opening VSTs, is a fools game for live sets where songs transition quickly. Use what you want. Nobody really cares about your personal choices. I’d advise you to stop using Roland’s trade names in your channel name. When they finally get around to you with a cease and desist, you’ll have no choice so you might as well get an early jump on things before they jump on you.
@@matthewgaines10 I literally use no mouse or keyboard when I perform live with this setup and the Akai controller is shown in the video. Also every song is prepared and ready to go in my Ableton template. You clearly care about what I use because you clicked on the video and left a comment.
So, you will never buy a keyboard again, because you already have a keyboard. Haha, wow, very deep thinking. When I saw that title, I was expecting something entirely different.
Finally someone who has a sense of humour. But honestly I wouldn’t spent 5k on any keyboard/ stage piano / workstation nowadays. I do own the Roland V-Piano which came out in 2009.
Interesting. I enjoyed seeing your setup in action.
Thanks for watching!
Good playing. Especially the end.
Nice. And you are right. I’ve enjoyed the software and controller route with my MacBook pros for over 12 years. Each keyboard I’ve bought in that time frame has not quite measured up to my virtual setup unless it offered hybrid setup or audio interface or DAW specific features.
They don’t even know what they’re missing on. And they still won’t believe it.
Beautiful music!
@@zoltanns Thank you very much!
AWESOME!!! I use a similar setup using my MacBook Pro M1. Thanks for sharing.
M1 processors are powerful. I’d rather invest in computers than outdated and overpriced hardware instruments.
Same, ive been using vsts live for over 10 years, it's at the point now I feel comfortable fading out my hardware workstations and just using a controller and mainstage.
Software instruments plus laptop is great alternative to keyboard workstation in a studio. In a real world live playing setting, they are often a pain. When things go wrong, it’s a nightmare to troubleshoot different hardware and plugin. Another issue is the velocity mapping. Different MIDI controllers and softwares are often not well tested and integrated. Each giving uneven response, sometimes totally unplayable.
Well, I own the V-Piano and live I use the SL 88 Grand MIDI controller. Regarding posibile crashes, I always have a backup. That’s why I switched to Mac. My Windows laptop crashed too many times but luckily it never happened live.
@@rolandv-pianowhich piano vst do you use live? I found keyscape (and most others that sound ok through headphones) to be lacking
@jakob5947 You can send it to a reverb and add resonance by using PSP PianoVerb2.
I’m still experimenting getting the best Yamaha sounds out of my RD-800 and Keyscape combo. Nice setup
Try tweaking the velocity parameters in Keyscape. That can drastically change your sound.
Korg and Roland did a great job with their bundles. I'm waiting for Korg M3 in VSTi. Who knows Kronos...
@@trancosomarcus That would be nice. The M3 had some amazing synth sounds.
great music! I bought synthsizers couse of Pc couldnt handle some processor burning vsts together. But for few instruments (tones or romplers) it is great, and also for the effects.(IMHO)
Thanks! The right computer is more powerful than any hardware synthesiser and cheaper in the long run.
Beautiful x
Thanks!
I can agree with you in that, only buy what is necessary.
It’s all marketing today. They’ll sell you thousands of sounds but you only need a few good ones that suit your playing style.
Got a Fantom 8 four months ago and still learning how to tweak and get the right piano sound I need...love the keybed and tpuch
@@rolandv-piano Just buy a grand piano. No need for electricity anymore.
Awesome setup. Can you share how they are configured to work as mentioned?
What exactly do you want to know? I can make a video with more details.
@@rolandv-pianoon how you can make this amazing setup. A video would be awesome. Thanks.
Keyboard workstations lock up in live situations too. I had a Kronos ( which is basically a computer in a keyboard housing lock up on me at a gig. Fortunately I was able to reboot it and finish the gig with it. Another problem with keyboard workstations is bringing them in for repair and parts availability. Also there seems to be fewer authorized repair centers
Where do you buy the sounds for the MIDI? Thanks
The keyboard sounds are all from Spectrasonics. You can download the product online. It’s called Keyscape.
The strings and pads are from the Crowhill Company. The main pad is from u-he and the plugin is called Hive 2.
The drum groove is made with Superior Drummer from Toontrack.
@@rolandv-piano many thanks
I am happy using software and hardware. I mean, I don’t think a plugin really replaces a good analog synth, specially vintage synths or modern synths like Prophet 5 rev 4. But for acoustic sounds, sound libraries are way better in general, except for some sounds like Nord organs, or Yamaha electric pianos which could be as good as them.
Beautiful sounds. Beautiful playing. 👌
Had not heard of String Murmurations before, but seems interesting.
Am looking into it, but can you affect the accompanying strings by how you play or is it randomly responding to the harmonies?
You can select and automate the key and you can affect the phrases depending on how long you hold the chords. It’s not random but you have a lot of presets to choose from. You can also velocity trigger the melodic gestures.
@@rolandv-piano
Interesting! Cheers
Great piano sound. What is it?
Keyscape + 2 reverbs
Alright I’ll bite here. It seems based on your comments in here and even the name of your channel, that you are mainly referring to workstation keyboards. I fully understand why you might feel this way about them, but regardless, they still have their place. Live music for instance. Lugging a laptop to a gig is a pain. That said, not every keyboard is created equal. There are some boards out there that are unique and have their own sound. Things like the Waldorf Quantum, Oberheim SEM, Prophets, Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave. Sorry but your “blanket” statement doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense.
I agree with you that some hardware instruments are legendary but most aren’t. Even for live performances it’s easier to have 20 instruments in my computer instead of having to bring them with me.
How do you think the German concert of RD2000 compares with the new sound source of Roland GP9?
Haven’t personally tried it. I would assume they have the best technology in their flagship grand but for that price I would honestly look for an acustic grand.
@sale6257 Listening to the demos online I can hear the similar tone qualities the German Concert has. I think the keybed is superior. But I wouldn’t pay that amount of money for an instrument that still doesn’t come close to an acustic piano.
@@rolandv-piano Thank you, Mr. V, for sharing your views. In addition, I heard the introducer call the third sound he played in a YT GP9 introduction video the German Concert
@@rolandv-piano Therefore, the German concert may use the GP9 sound source to be transferred to the RD2000
OK... but what is the cost of all of your equipment and software...? It's well into 5 figures...
You don’t need my setup to be able to do this. A Mac M2 laptop is a few grand and other than that you only need Keyscape and a MIDI controller. The software that I’m showing in this video is about 1k including the DAW.
@@rolandv-piano Most of what I hear on can do on my Yamaha MODX7+ as well. It has 256 polyphony, drums, top shelf sounds.
256 polyphony for each individual sound when you have a layer with 16 sounds?
I doubt that.
2-3 GB memory. Top shelf sounds for sure…
Compare that with 6 TB SSD memory and 192 RAM.
@@rolandv-piano No each sound doesn't use 256 polyphony. And I did not hear 16 layers in what you played unless it was subtle. I am just agreeing with you if I had a laptop, my Studio One and the Yamaha MODX7, I could pull it off that way to adding my VST's to the overall. I only have 2 keyboards myself, mostly VST's. I am a classical/jazz player so my RD88 with PH4 feels great for piano and my MODX7 for the rest. With laptop, VST's and 2 synths, it is about 4K. I have a lot of high level VST's like East West, Diva, Pigments, Spire, Addictive Keys, etc.
And Yamaha sells Genos for $5.5+ K ! Irony. With this price, you get a powerful computer, dozens of soft synths, dozens of piano libraries, a quality midi keyboard, quality midi controllers and there'll still be some money left.
Exactly, I guess they target a different audience and take advantage of them by using false advertising. They’ll have another model in 3 years from now.
Yeah, such ridiculously overpriced instruments. Genos are nothing more than a glorified sampler with MIDI styles. If I want a Genos, I would just buy the next SX series. Yamaha should focus on making decent affordable arrangers rather than extorting customers luring them to spend an arm for just a few better sounds.
Não sinto força em instrumentos virtuais. A base, a força da música ainda está nos sintetizadores analógicos. O resto pode apenas complementar. É difícil pensar em uma música feita por teclados que não possua, pelo menos, 70% de sons analógicos.
What do mean? Is this clickbait?
Up to you to determine :)
that is super low latency wow
@@benjaminklunkim4549 Ableton shows 4-5 ms latency, I only need to switch to RME audio interface
I started to use VSTs live many years ago, because no hammond organ on workstations could compare to my first version of Vintage Organs by Native Instruments. With years we see always better plugins and obsolete workstations coming out. No workstation can compete with plugins like Keyscape or Omnisphere. Or IK Multimedia Hammond B3X.
Incredible news: if you buy an hardware Yamaha MontageM they give you a plugin of that.
See the trend? Simulations are better on real computers than on embedded computers (contemporary workstations have a CPU and an operating system).
If you build a system with a host like GigPerformer and some VSTs you get a sound quality and an automation level that no workstation can offer. Try for yourself.
Yes, you need a computer and you must learn to use it. Sorry guys, it's 21st century...
Take a look at who still buys those keyboards. Do you see demographic they are targeting?
Your computer will become obsolete, lost in the ever-growing sea of e-waste. Meanwhile, my analog synth will continue to produce beautiful sounds, cherished by those who appreciate its timeless value. Your little plugin that shows you a photo of a prophet 10 when you load it up is not the same.
I have no problem with you owning a prophet. This video was meant for people who buy “workstations” and “arrangers”.
I use my computer for a variety of tasks not just music. You’ll need a computer anyway for recording and video editing. Nothing lasts forever whether it’s my computer or your type of “e-waste” ;)
I agree. Some of my hardware synths are still going strong after 40 years! But with software and computers I used in the last 20 years, you can be happy if a certain set-up lasts you about 5-6 years. Then a software update or hardware crash will make your old set-up obsolete and you need to look for a modern replacement.
@@MacXpert74 yall just don't know what a computer is or how it works. Treat it the same as your hardware synth. Don't change your setup or update it ever, and it will work better than your hardware synth and for longer. It will never go out of tune. It will have repeatable settings. You will never have to clean or replace pots.
hardware synths are fun and it is a good feeling to have real knobs to play with. But acting like you're better just because you spent more money, or acting like the software instruments are worse just to justify the money you spent is a bad take.
And realize that unless you're talking about an analog synth, the rest of them are just specific software that doesn't get updates in a specific computer made for it. No different whatsoever from your computer at home except for how you treat it and use it.
@@smugler1 "Don't change your setup or update it ever, and it will work better than your hardware synth and for longer."
I have to disagree. This doesn't work for most people, as computers are multi-purpose and require to be up to date to be able to use online services for instance. And even if you if you don't update anything, hardly any computer will last you as long as a hardware synths. Harddisks for instance have a limited lifespan, even the SSD type. If it lasts 10 years, you're already pushing it. Not so much with hardware synths. More than 25 years lifespan is not uncommon at all for hardware synths. As I said some of my synths are over 40 years old and still work good. Modern CPUs are more fragile than old generation stuff and will not last as long as an old Z80 or something you might find in an old synth. So NO, a computer will NOT last as long, not even close!!
"But acting like you're better just because you spent more money" here you're just projecting. I never made any claims about 'superiority'. This comment is just silly and basically ruins your otherwise reasonable comment.
"unless you're talking about an analog synth" Yes I'm talking about analog synths, not so much digital workstations which are indeed more like computer inside a keyboard.
I agree with you. I can’t even open certain projects because my DAW was updated and the versions are not compatible. Also there’s and advanced to virtual instruments regarding space, maintenance and logistics when performing live. I wish I could have all acustic, analog and digital instruments that I like. But we have to work with what we have. And limitations are not always bad.
What keyboard is it tho lol 😅
@@ageshero It’s a Roland V-Piano but the sounds come from my computer. I just use it as a MIDI controller.
@@rolandv-piano that’s awesome. I wonder if roland sells a model that’s just a really nice keybed without the extra internal engines.
@@rolandv-piano I’m currently a bit of a Korg guy, but my Korg krome’s keybed kinda is not doing it for me and I’m outgrowing it
@@ageshero Look up Roland A-88
What's that at all?
That’s fine for home or studio use but gigging with mouse clicks, opening VSTs, is a fools game for live sets where songs transition quickly.
Use what you want. Nobody really cares about your personal choices.
I’d advise you to stop using Roland’s trade names in your channel name. When they finally get around to you with a cease and desist, you’ll have no choice so you might as well get an early jump on things before they jump on you.
@@matthewgaines10 I literally use no mouse or keyboard when I perform live with this setup and the Akai controller is shown in the video. Also every song is prepared and ready to go in my Ableton template.
You clearly care about what I use because you clicked on the video and left a comment.