Argentina's Welsh-speaking community
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- (24 Mar 2009) SHOTLIST
Gaiman, Chubut Province, Argentina - 7th February, 2009
1. Large pan from hillside across the town of Gaiman in the valley
2. Medium low angle shot of cars driving through tree lined main street
3. Close on red dragon laden sign for tea house as vehicle drives through shot
4. Medium of Welsh shop as customer walks in.
5. Medium of Mayor of Gaiman (Gabriel Restucha)walking towards commemorative plaque to Welsh in park
8. Close on street name signs with name of Gaiman founder Michael D. Jones
9. SOUNDBITE (Welsh) Gabriel Restucha, Mayor, Gaiman, Chubut Province, Argentina
"Here in Gaiman the signs are in Welsh and the people on the streets speak the Welsh language. Children join Welsh classes teaching the language to their grandparents, thus seeing hope in the lingual tongue. Twenty years ago everyone thought the Welsh language was going to die, but the community and language are still live."
10. Large panoramic overview of Puerto Madryn with coast in background
11. Medium of old ships anchored along the coast
12. Medium pan from tide washing in on shore up to old ships
12. Large of first house built in Gaiman
13. Close of sign explaining that it was the first house built in Gaiman
14. Medium of tour guide and tourists walking through doorway of house
15. Medium of tourist taking picture in house
16. Close of picture of Welsh settler
17. SOUNDBITE (Spanish) Fernando Williams, Architectural Anthropologist, Gaiman, Chubut Province, Argentina
"They came to Patagonia thinking of creating a sort of autonomous settlement. After the experience of the migration to the United States, where they were assimilated very easily, especially in linguistic terms with the local population. The manner which...one of the principal ideas of the colony was to maintain certain independence and certain survival of the Welsh language."
18. Large panoramic landscape shop of barren Patagonian landscape
19. Large exterior of Gaiman Welsh museum with person walking through fixed shot
20. Mid of sign
21. Medium of family in Gaiman Welsh museum looking at artefacts
22. Close of family
23. Close of document in museum
24. SOUNDBITE (Spanish) Tegai Roberts, Curator, Welsh Museum, Gaiman, Chubut Province, Argentina
"The organisers of the colony in Wales, they were in contact with the Argentine Government. In 1875 they came here to receive the lands which the government had promised them. There were 25 square blocks for each dweller."
Trelew, Chubut Province, Argentina - 8th February, 2009
25. Medium panoramic of Chubut valley
26. Large of horses drinking from stream in valley
Gaiman, Chubut Province, Argentina - 7th February, 2009
27. Medium of Caitrin Williams and local person sitting at table
28. SOUNDBITE (Welsh) Cathrin Williams, Welsh Teacher, Gaiman, Chubut Province, Argentina
"The first time was a very, very emotional experience, because we were met at the airport by a group of Welsh speaking people. The thought that we were the other side of the world with people the same as us who spoke the same language. By now though I have been here so many times, I don't get the same feeling, but I do see it in other people who come here from Wales. I see that they feel exactly the same as I did when I first came here."
29. Medium of Gustavo Zampini (young local Welsh speaker) leaning on counter in kitchen of his home
30. Medium of mother of Gustavo preparing Mate (Argentina's favourite beverage) and passing it over
32. Medium over shoulder of Mother of Gustavo drinking mate, while both are speaking Welsh
Gaiman, Chubut Province, Argentina - 8th February, 2009
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As a welsh speaker who studies Spanish and French, being able to understand this entire video is very very pleasing. :)
chwarau teg i chdi
How's their accent? Is it very different from the Welsh spoken in Wales? I've heard Argentinian's welsh is like an older version, pretty much what happened with English in the US or Spanish in Argentina as well.
You my friend are in a very special Ben diagram of your own
Martin van Santen it does sound like an older person’s welsh, which makes sense. Was able to understand the most part
@@martinvansanten4417 I'm from North Wales and I can say it sounded like a south Wales/Spanish accent, that's the best way I can put it, I still understood everything that was said
I currently live in North Wales and hear North Walian Welsh spoken everyday and it's really interesting to hear their accent as you can tell there's an Argentine Spanish element in pronunciation but it's also very clearly and quintessentially Welsh.
Its different and similar at the same time, im not Welsh but i hear some differences, like the Spanish pronunciation
Thank you for the input, I'm Argie myself, and was wondering how well my definitely non-Welsh people were faring in their Welsh. Yeah, they got an accent, but accents are sexy! Judging for the spelling (and some disparaging comments from some English people, like you had to rasp your throat really hard) I thought that Welsh was really very guttural and very hard to pronounce. I'm nicely impressed that it sounds much easier than I thought.
sorry what's the pronunciation for corgi....corghi or corgi?
I never heard Welsh spoken in a non Welsh accent before !!
nail worx It’s often spoken in an English accent
@@YangSing1 no its not. It is usually spoken with a welsh accent
@@professorminstrels6460 Usually it is spoken with a welsh accent but he is not wrong, it is often spoken with an English accent as some people born and raised in England speak welsh.
@@rhysgulley1512 I am really confused by your comment. You say it is often spoken with a welsh accent, but then go on to say that it is often spoken with an english accent.
Which is it?
@@professorminstrels6460 I did not say often spoken with a welsh accent, I said usually. Not sure what is confusing about my comment.
I'm Argentinian. My great granparents (Roberts) were among the Welsh who came to Gaiman in 1865. So...pleased to meet you!
My Great Gran Father Was from Wales; I'm from Argentina
Thats really cool. Hello from England
Have you ever visited Wales?
Daniel Morris , i dont likw Wales
Hey Daniel,,, so interesting,,,,, is that Teatro Colon in the background of your pic..
@@fredymelendez4773 Why bother saying so !
Just beautiful Argentina and Wales xx
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no
Cach y bant
no
Yess
Yr Ariannin
This is amazing that people are speaking my hometown language in another country! Adderchog
Na, rydw i'n byw yn de cymru mae'n adderchog* ddim adderchod
Ardderchog*
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It's unusual for a relatively minor language to survive so far from home. Some places in Nova Scotia have communities where Scottish Gaelic is still spoken.
To be fair its also their hometown language...
It's lovely to have that connection between Wales and Argentina. Thank You.
Welsh brothers, it's nice to see we have a community living in my country... Cheers to ya'll from Entre Ríos!
Their Welsh is more traditional and it did not change overtime as Argentina has a majority of Spanish speakers.
Their welsh is not more traditional, welsh in wales hasn’t changed a bit.
I find it bizarre that Spanish is the majority ,language, as the majority are of Italian descent.
@@duncanedwards7840 Is that Argentina belonged to the Spanish crown.
The Italians arrived as immigrants who arrived after 1860.
You can notice the influence of the Italian accent on his "Spanish" (Spanish spoken in Argentina) with idioms and words returned from Italian that you will not find in another Spanish-speaking country.
@@RAULALVAREZarac en realidad hay muy pocas palabras italianas ( yo hablo italiano y mi esposa es argentina), los argentinos siempre dicen asi como si fuese un idioma medio castellano medio italiano. Se dice laburar por ej. pero tampoco es igual (laburar=lavorare, laburo=lavoro) otros como fiaca (en italian es poco usado y el uso es diferente y no se escribe/pronuncia igual) otros como gamba, !guarda¡ se usan mas o menos coloquialmente no mas, no es como si fuera parte del idioma formalmente hablado.
@@duncanedwards7840 Spot on,;the thing was the sons of the Italians had to go to schools in Spanish and do their military service in Spanish, that's how Italian language gradually lost it's power as the upcoming language.
I'm Welsh and love go there to visit.
You are welcome there are also many more places in Patagonia that you will love.
I’m from Wales! Rwyf yn caru Patagonia
Same shame I can’t speak Welsh would feel disrespectful:(
3 years later, but I hope you could visit our lovely land in all this time, and also that you liked it! :) Or if you haven't been able to do it yet, I strongly hope you can in a near future! You'll always be welcome in our homeland :)
Un abrazo, hermano!
@@EveryDay-fc1fy Nah, don't feel like that! We Argies don't think like that, we just love visitors, we're so far off from everywhere else. Maybe you can start learning some basic sentences, like "I like you very much", "Can I have your number?" and other practical stuff like that and, who knows?, maybe you can travel to Patagonia and get yourself a hot Welsh-speaking Latina/o Argie for yourself. The most difficult thing is getting started, and the more you practie, the better it gets, just give it a try!
I lived in Argentina in the mid 90's and was amazed at how many different immigrant communities were still around. Couldn't believe how diverse it was. I met Danes, Armenians, lots of germans, Italian, lots of Irish and one man that still spoke Gaelic (he had a radio program).
It reminded me of Central Texas where I'm from...here you have czech, moravian, German, Danish, Wendt communities where the older folk still speak their forefathers' language.
In the northeast of Argentina, the majority are descendants of Ukrainians, Polish, Germans and Russians, Slavic immigration was centered and influenced regional folkloric culture and music
The lady who describes her reaction when she arrived there is so spot-on. You feel as if you are in a completely alien country but suddenly there are people speaking the same language as you and who have the same frame of reference. I love it so much - the Chubut valley (Dyffryn Camwy) and Gaiman which feels so Welsh and familiar, and the other settlement in Esquel and Trevelin in the Andes, which is very different in terms of climate and landscape but the Welsh welcome is just as strong.
I would love to visit patagonia one day and meet some of the Welsh speakers there. I have a lot of respect for these people who have kept the Welsh language and traditions alive. Its almost impossible to imagine the sheer hardship and sacrifice their ancestors made and went through.God Bless you all.
Todos son bienvenidos a nuestro pais Argentina.
los ingleses tambien?
Hay un monton de descendencia Ingles tambien, mas que nada en Bs As pero tambien en otros lados en el sur, Cordoba etc.
Y Wladfa 🏴❤️🇦🇷
I am happy that I can understand most of this
What a wonderful diverse world we live in
Diversity is overrated.
@@stevebull4578white
@@latinasawntop Thank God!
@@stevebull4578 Your right to speak should be permanently taken away.
@@lycanrocmare6345 Spoken like a true commie rat, or a diversity invader.
A língua galesa é belíssima. ❤️
Não a deixem morrer, por favor. 🙏
I am from Wales, and learning Welsh since my Mother is English and my Dad is Welsh, non of them know how to speak it!
Hi welsh army😊 I'm welsh too
They do know how to speak it just it's a different dialect to the Welsh spoken in Wales. If someone American speak English to a Brit and sound different are you going to say that they can't speak English?
@@aled702 He means his mother & father can't speak Welsh!, I'm sure.
Very few Welsh can actually speak the Welsh language which is unfortunate as it appears to be a dying ancient language.
@@matty6848 Depends where you are, it's still the norm in large parts of Wales, particularly the north. I wouldn't say it's dying out like Irish and Scotts Gaelic are at risk of. By no means all Welsh speak it, but then many who live in Wales are from England or elsewhere
Warms my heart.. a beautiful post. Diolch yn fawr...
this is very interesting i did not know about the welsh in Argentina xXxX
They're kinda hidden in the south , Patagonia
Interesting how they [or at least they did, at the time of this videos] still pronounced the 'wy' dipthong with the emphasis on the 'w', as they did in the 19thC.
I'm learning something new everyday.
Increíble! Quiero ir a Wales y Argentina :-)
A question to the Welsh speakers... Does it sound like they speak it natively or as a second language?... Regardless, its fascinating that it remains spoken so far from Wales.
Welsh is my first language and the quality of their welsh is that of a native speaker! The only difference to me was that they pronounce some of the vowels slightly shorter than you would probably hear from a native speaker in Wales
I'm English and Welsh is my fourth language, but I understood it very well. Sounded the same as Welsh in Wales to me.
I can't express the pride I feel. This wasn't like England; we didn't want to colonise. We wanted to mingle. When we have an idea; we create the NHS...when the English have an idea; they colonise. I know the country that I adore and we have an effing dragon!!!
This is so cool
It's interesting that in Malvinas war (Falklands War) were welsh speakers on both sides
@Shotmanz Milton Rhys, bilingual radio operator. If there were many descendants of Irish and descendants of English too
To be honest, there were only two or three Welsh speakers at most on the Argie side. English descended there were also I think about 6, one of them the son of an Englishman who had fought in WW2, so you imagine the tragedy in that family. Irish descended about the same. The Argie Police Captain was Irish-descended and very dispissed by the islanders for his perceived anglophobia, he was returned to the mainland after a month and they brought in another guy.
@@x2y3a1j5 Deja de decir argie.
@@rufuscasimiro7739 ya fue, a estas alturas creo que nos hemos apropiado de la palabra argie y no le vemos el sentido despectivo original
hay un muchacho de la comunidad walesa que murio de apellido austin
My great grandfather lived in Patagonia for many years, leaving with his nine year old daughter back to North Wales, when his wife was killed
interesting. who killed his wife? the Indians?
@@SembrandoElKaos probably, bc it wasn't until 1890 when civilization was established in the entirety of Patagonia region
@@jackdanila9893 I'm doubtful though, because their population wasn't large and they weren't violent if I remember correctly. If anything it's more likely the weather killed her
Y para todo hombre de bien que quiera habitar el suelo argentino. ❤❤❤
Wow very good camera work
The best part is they drinking the mate (not the "coleague" word) beverage and having a chat in Welsh. Da yawn!
Sadly
Where you go you do what you see.
And mate is a national symbol. They may have welsh blood but, they're Argentinians after all.
Mate (in the friend, buddy, etc form)
Anyone have any idea what language 'hatkü trahakmnük' is? Searched it on google and got literally 0 results. I'm assuming it's the language that the natives spoke/speak?
I recently found out that there was a small Welsh community in my country. They have a very beautiful culture.
No es tan pequeña...hay 10 pueblos galeses en chubut
Viva el dragon rojo de Gales!
Mae'r Gymraeg yn agos I galon bob Cymro a Chymraes...Dyna yw ein traddodiaeth ,a dyna be sy'n neud ni'n unigol drwy'r byd...HEB IAITH,HEB GALON. Cyfarchion Cynes I chi gyd yn Mhatagonia,💕👍Cymru am byth.
There’s always one who has to show off about how many languages they speak
that is awesome... I really thought that Cape Breton in Nova Scotia where they speak Canadian-Scottish Gaelic was the only community in the Americas where a Celtic language was spoken.
Evans is Welsh name. Howd you not know huh
@@teiloturner2760 I have very distant Welsh ancestry but I grew up in Canada. The going's on of modern day Argentina or 19th century Wales are not common knowledge in anglophone Ontario.
@@augustaylissaevans9088 everybody Welsh has to know everything about Wales FFS 🤦
@@teiloturner2760 I am not even Welsh tho 😆 but I am doing Celtic and Medieval Studies at a Uni in Wales so in a few years I will know lots. 👍 Learning Welsh, Middle Welsh, and Old Welsh too 👌
@@augustaylissaevans9088 in fact, the first international Celtic festival in the American continent was in Buenos Aires, the communities that participated were the Irish, Scottish, Welsh, people from Galicia
Is the woman at 3:14 a native Argentinian Welsh speaker? Or is she from Wales?
Es argentina descendiente de galeses
I read that the natives learned some welsh words in Patagonia.
😲😲😲
Yes, I read that too!
@@x2y3a1j5
Yep!!, one of them was "bara"that means bread.Many natives had lost their sources of food to the landowners that they began to starve.There was a case that an indian approached a post begging for food and he kept saying "bara,bara",the Spanish speaking people believed it was an aboriginal word when a settler that was Welsh heard the word and understood what the emaciated native meant.
As a Welshman this is weird to watch😂
Weirder still, I read a few months ago about the Irish indentured servants in the Caribbean islands and how, about 200 years late, there's a Brit ship a bit lost near Jamaica, they send out an Irish fella to ask for information, and this Irish fella couldn't believe those black fellas who were (supposedly) throwing in the odd Irish word in the middle of the conversation. It's maybe a tale, but a funny one to tell!
Hola chicos: soy un canibal y cazador de cabezas argentino.Queria me dijeran cual fue el rey ingles que se apodero de Gales,y en que siglo ocurrió.
Cuando el rey Carlos va a Gales habla en gales?
Everyone goes to Argentina. Everyone.
tarde o temprano todos terminan en argentina es verdad !!! estamos en el fin del mundo
A língua uelch é belíssima ❤️
Não deixem ela morrer, por favor 🙏
Im from Buenos Aires I have one welsh ancestor and I wanted to clearify that this people are argentines. They feel argentine but they respect their ancestry
diolch yn fawr
@@tedsssstubbington9934 I don't speak welsh. Sorry. I have more italian blood than welsh
@@tedsssstubbington9934 Does it mean thanks or something like it?
You don't have to just identify with your citizenship. Your citizenship is different from your ethnicity. These people seem to be Welsh ethnically but Argentine by nationality/citizenship. Countries have always had many ethnicities within them and it can even be awkward to pretend that they're all exactly same. While these people may consider Argentina their home country now, they may still feel distinctly Welsh ethnically.
You can hear the spanish accent in him this is amazing
Their Welsh sounds more fluent than Welsh speakers from Wales
I think it is because a big part of welsh speakers in gales aren't native speakers.
MB7783
Gales???
kinda sad actually
Is their Welsh very different to the dialects of Wales?
Richard Brennan not really, In my opinion South Wales Welsh is more different to North Wales Welsh, In which they speak more similar to in my opinion.
Richard Brennan the first guy sounded like he could have been a farmer from my hometown in snowdonia
I don't speak Welsh, but as an Argentine I could absolutely hear some Argentine in his intonation.
Is that possible?
Arturo Stojanoff yes of course they are people of Argentina and proud of both
Yes..as a Welsh speaker - I hear a Spanish tone in their Welsh.
O bydded i'r hen iaith barhau.
Cymraeg am byth!
to my Swedish ears this Welsh kind of sounds like a mix of Spanish and Dutch
australia tambien tiene una zona llamada nueva gales del sur
Don't understand though how they figured they wouldn't lose their language and culture in a Spanish speaking country but would in an English speaking. Not dissing them, just wondering. I have Welsh ancestry
Because they were the first Europeans to settle that part of the country, so there weren’t many Spanish speakers already there.
@@arwelp what year did they settle in Patagonia?
pj moseley The first settlers arrived on 28 July 1865. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Wladfa
Maybe because the distances were much bigger. You can easily walk from England into Wales, making it easier to conquer and oppress.
@@aragornthebrave nope. The reason is because they were the first civilized inhabitants of the Patagonia. With Swiss, German , french, colonies they were the workers of the south
Im a native speaker, the quality is in no way less than what comes from our tongue. Siarad Cymraeg yn dda iawn, teulu.
Wooooooooooot!😦😦😦
1:27 Que capo Sacheri
Well...I have no clue what's going on
I just like the three gentlemen at 5:05
When spoken with the tipical Lombard/French prosody they sound a bit Egyptian Arabic.
Dda iawn! Mae pobol yn Patagonia yn siarad cymraeg dda iawn!
(For those who don’t speak Welsh: very good! People in Patagonia speak very good Welsh!)
Cariad fawr i ti - ti'n pobl hardd!
The initial settlers were led to believe that the land was fertile...they found a desert and some petitioned the British Government to resettle them in the Falklands. No response occurred..eventually members of the community emigrated to Australia and Canada.
No,the land is fertile.Problems with water.But Sheep were the main business there..
Not really. Some emigrated to North America, the majority stayed and made The Wladfa/Patagonia what it is today.
I think you refer to the first landing site, the place was awkward and they named if Bahía Decepción, (Deception Bay), the local indians got in touch with them and told them were to relocate and that is how Trelew and Puerto Madryn came to exist and later Gaiman. In Argentina the welsh are treasured and the Welsh Patagonia has been a part of the country for more than 150 years.
Thats right Robert, though I think a lot did stay on, but my Grandfather was born there around Gaiman and his father sited the reason for leaving was "lawlessness" and the government putting pressure on them with certain matters including conscription of their sons. My great grandfather & grandfather left there around 1910 and came to Western Australia.
The Welsh *made* the land fertile by creating irrigation channels - hundreds of miles in total - all dug by hand.
cómo me encantaría aprender galés 🥺 pero suena tan difícil que debería nacer de nuevo para eso
Intentalo pa, no perdés nada por intentar tal vez tenés cierta facilidad
Y, la gente que lo habla y que no son para nada galeses sino bien latinos, también tuvieron sus dificultades al principio como cuando empezás cualquier cosa nueva; pero fijate qué bien lo hablan que en todos los comentarios en inglés se están preguntando "che, los que hablan galés, estos chabones hablan bien?" y todas las respuesas son tipo "sí, se les entiende perfecto". Hay una app para aprender gratis (duolinguo), fijate si tienen galés; por ahi conseguis otros cursos gratis por internet.
Me intimidan tantas consonantes juntas!
@@x2y3a1j5 No son latinos, son descendientes de galeses y fundaron colonias para mantener sus costumbres en la Patagonia Argentina.
@@x2y3a1j5 yo estoy viendo este video porque me da curiosidad el idioma galés, yo uso Duolingo y sí, está el idioma galés pero solo para hablantes del inglés
Got slightly distracted at 3:58....
Wow, Welsh spoken with a Spanish Argentine accent is bizarre!
Argentina país de inmigrantes. Como dice nuestro preámbulo constitucional "...asegurar los beneficios de la libertad, para nosotros, para nuestra posteridad, y para todos los hombres del mundo que quieran habitar el suelo argentino..."
Si la comunidad galesa se pudo desarrollar en más de un siglo y medio en la Patagonia argentina, respetando sus costumbres y tradiciones; los kelpers de las Islas Malvinas también podrían mantener sus cultura ancestral y aceptar como lo hicieron los galeses la soberanía argentina sobre esas tierras.
Soreofhing - Well, since the British took over the islands back in 1833 when they were under legit Argentine government, yes, Argentina has a valid claim over the archepelago. The Kelpers have full right to live in the place since they're born there, but should have no authority to decide about national sovereignty. If they had, then we could send a gang of Argentines to stole land in Northern Ireland to found a settlement and say that it will remain Argentine territory as long as its inhabitants want it.
Soreofhing - For some reason, Brit folks seem to not acknowledge that the first legit owner of the archepelago was Spain, who claimed it in 1520 (Ferdinand Magellan's expedition), 170 years before Britain even knew of its existence. British as well as Frenchs went to the islands in the 1700's and illegally settled military bases there, but they were both kicked out by Spain by 1771. In the 1790's, through the Nootka Conventions, it was agreed that Britain would officially stop claiming the islands.
Argentina becomes independent in 1816, Spain abandons the islands and in 1820, the first project for populating Malvinas begun and an Argentine settlement was founded. Britain would come back in 1833 for expelling the Argentine governor, Luis Vernet, and took control of the islands by force (with aid from the USA), with no legit claim ... once again. That's the history of Malvinas, in a nutshell.
Soreofhing - Don't make me laugh. The mere act of setting foot on the islands isn't an argument against the ones who found and claimed them first, even less considering that time later (1790 decade) the British signed for giving up their pretensions over the islands in favour of Spain.
Vernet asking permission to the British Consul makes no sense, that only happens in the fallacius British versions of the history (in which, coincidentally, they do not mention the Nootka Convensions of the 1790's or omit information about them).
Britain did never had legal presence on the islands, everytime British men were there it was because they invaded it, just like invaded Buenos Aires twice (1806-07), like Brits invaded everything around the globe during the XVII, XVIII and XIX centuries.
Nada que ver una cosa con la otra.
an honorable way out for all would be a 1,000 year agreement giving Argentine sovereignty after in a 1,000 years time.
Esi sé ré dhidhúrach.
Gaeleg yr Alban?
@@garethifan1034 no its Irish
So we went over there when we where celts why didn’t we all move there get away from this bad weather
They moved there in the 1860s actually, to get away from England
You all will be welcome here in Chubut
Believe me you dont wanna live here in argentina. This economy can make anyone crazy.
@@ignaciolance4629 back in time when they came to this country it was a good place to start a new life, with impressive economic growth, stable society and freedom
@@jackdanila9893 They came here because the government was giving them land, if they really cared about economic growth or a stable society they would have gone to Buenos Aires, Córdoba or Rosario.
Caru bobl gymraeg Y Wladfa. 11/2019
si los primos gallegos aprenden gales como lengua materno van a ser unos cuantos millones de galeses parlantes, es lo mas parecido a su lengua original
Does the whole of Patagonia speak Welsh??
Oh no, only in 1 state, Chubut.
And only some of the people - mostly descendants of the Welsh settlers
Only some areas in the Chubut province.
No. In Argentina there are 23 provinces, one of them is Chubut. That single province is 10 times bigger than today's Wales. All of Patagonia, it would be a lot, right?
Only some parts of 1 state, Chubut
Dw i'n mynd i dod yn ôl yma pryd dw i'n gallu siarad mwy Gymraeg. Dw i'n byw yng Nghymru a dw i'n dysgu Cymraeg a dw i'n bob amser wedi fy swyno gan Y Wladfa. 🏴☺️
Ti'n sgwennu yn da iawn, dal ati! 👌🏴
@@user-om2bw1cj1r Diolch yn fawr! Fy llysfam yn rhugl a mae hi'n meddwl dwi'n gwneud gwych hefyd! 🥰 Dwi'n dysgu mwy a mwy bob dydd a dwi'n felly balch o fy hun. 🥰🏴
@@xotbirdox Rhaid i ti fod yn falch! Mae mam a dad fi yn Saeson ond geshi fy magu yn Nghogledd Cymru lle neshi ddysgu Cymraeg fel ail iaith. Y peth gorau i jyst siarad, siarad siarad 😊🏴
Being English i know araf,cymru,dioch and heddlu in welsh i adore wales though beautiful country and people ❤
Wonder how this community was treated during Falklands war?
Some of them fought or helped Argentina against UK, but nothing happened to the welsh community in Argentina. I mean, they're still argentines xdd
They're Argentines why would they be treated harsh ?
@@megustaelmate5499 Glad they failed. God Save The King!
Deallwn pob gair
I wonder what their stance on the Falklands is
They probably have a very moderated opinion on the falkliand/malvinas topic.
I was wondering the same lol
We are wlsh, we are argentinian, then las malvinas son argentinas, that is the only answer
They support the Argentinian claim to the Malvinas. Remembet these were a people who fled the British to escape persecution. And gave up sovereignty to the Argentinians in exchange for protection from the British.
What persecution? thats complete rubbish.
Any moonshiners over there? ,banjos or dulcimers?
No entiendo nada porque no hablo galés pero ese chabon esta buenisimo ahr igual si es demasiado lindo lpm
Gay, gay flaquito.
@@SembrandoElKaos y cuál es el drama, gil?
@@anvilapsen361 ahí saltó el marido
🤢🤢🤢
@@SembrandoElKaos Qué te molesta, salame? Te deja su parte de mujeres para vos, agradecido le tendrias que estar, virgo!
Goshhh I can´t understad anything!!!
It was bad enough having it next door but now I can't even go to South America
Why comment this?
Get a life you racist mong
lol anglo cope
@@ghostlymeow8976 What did he say that was racist?
I wonder how did these people fare during The Falklands War? Are they under suspicion?
British-Argentines are Argentines after all so no, they were not under any surveillance or suspicion. In fact, one of the generals leading the junta was of British descent himself.
@@diegobojczuk6855 thx for the reply btw u have an interesting surname. Are you ukrainian argentinian?
@@panjidharma2829 I'm of Polish descent. My grandparents emigrated to Argentina in the late 50's. Poland was already a state back then, I think. I had some friends in high school with similar sounding surnames but of Ukrainian descent, however.
Argentina is a country of immigrants, mainly Europeans, mostly Italians and Spaniards, but we also descend from French, Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, English, Swiss, Germans, Irish, Scots, Netherlands. Many Turks too. It is an interesting mix. But they are all Argentine. Christians, Jews and Muslims living in peace. If you want to use a word to define Argentina, it is diversity.
@@gustavodetigre7472 Diversity and Hysteria. I'm an Argie myself. We're all crazy af. Seriously! But the best friends in the world.
Oedd'n ddiddorel iawn . Gobeithio byddai 'n gallu ymweld â Patagonia in diwrnod.
thought it was messi xD welsh messi
Diddorol iawn (A'r Falklands yn bell o feddwl pawb, am wn i?)
Huw Brown Malvinas.
Wrth gwrs, mae'n normal, dyma nhw'n siarad am rywbeth arall, nid ydym mor obsesiwn â'r pwnc, er ei fod yn rhywbeth pwysig iawn i ni wrth gwrs.
Cosme Fulanito
Falklands
Cuanta gente habla gales en Argentina hoy en dis? No creen que ya es hora que aprendan espanol (los que no lo hablan todavia)?
No es necesario, mientras trabajen y vivan tranquilos por que los íbamos a molestar?
En la fecha actual aprox 10.000+ nativos en la lengua y más de 50.000 reclaman tener ascendencia galesa y/o conocimientos, de todas formas, en la provincia se fomenta en todas las escuelas obligatoriamente por el ministerio enseñar la historia de los inmigrantes durante el primario y un poco de la cultura/idioma. También vienen profesores del norte de gales a las escuelas galesas a fomentar la cultura. Los idiomas en las escuelas galesas se aprenden ambos, español y galés. Es muy importante aprender Galés porque es un proyecto cultural protegido por organizaciones trasnacionales, el galés patagónico es el galés más antiguo que vino desde el norte de gales, es lo que llaman hoy en gales "tradicional o coloquial". Se fue perdiendo incorporando el inglés como primera lengua o modificándolo siendo hoy en día el Galés del sur, influenciado por el inglés, la versión del idioma Galés más utilizada, en gales se habla mayormente inglés. Por eso es tan importante la variante del idioma en Argentina. Hay una segunda colonia argentina puramente de galeses patagónicos en Saltcoats, Canadá pero se perdió el idioma. En Patagonia se busca que eso no suceda, ya que el español no es una lengua extinta no tiene por qué protegerse y no es obligatoria, aunque no todos lo hablen es posible comunicarse perfectamente (algunos saben gales, otros no, otros ambos o tienen conocimientos, conozco personas especialmente ancianos y mayores que solo hablan galés). En las escuelas también es obligatorio el inglés y a veces los últimos 3 años de secundaria se enseña francés. Así me pasó a mi estudiando en coleg Camwy. La colonia se llama Y wladfa. Tenemos bandera e himno inclusive, hay muchas historias y mucha información pero no siempre se comparte. Por ejemplo, los primeros documentos de la provincia están en galés. Celebramos el Eisteddfod, tenemos comida tradicional y muchas recetas galesas que se crearon en Patagonia, frutas que solo se preservan acá como el citrón galés que se prepara en dulce, etc. Te interesa saber más? www.project-hiraeth.com/
@@d.s3980 Increíble proyecto, ojalá no sé pierda
@@d.s3980 tremendo, la Patagonia es todo lo que está bien de argentina , bueno excepto por el gobierno de Santa Cruz pero ese es otro tema
@@d.s3980 Que bueno que existan proyectos así
Dw'i yn hoffi ofyd cwrw
Nid yw'r acen yn dda iawn, ond mae'n braf clywed Cymraeg mor bell i ffwrdd.
Did you know Welsh Gaelic is the oldest Gaelic language in the world.
Welsh isn't a Gaelic language, it's a Brythonic language.
Irish, Manx and Scottish are Gaelic.
siw_ I sounds Gaelic to me.
@@matty6848 It doesn't sound Gaelic. Just listen to Irish, Manx and Scottish Gaelic and then to Welsh. While the first 3 sound really similar, Welsh sounds a lot different from them and has sounds that don't exist in Gaelic languages.
And even if it sounded similar, that's not a factor by which you determine what language family/branch a language belongs to.
Welsh Gaelic 😂😂😂😂
Itz Ryy ha ha ha ho ho ho I know it’s such a hilarious comment isn’t it😐
What??? I dont Understsnd any
This is weird because I’m English-Welsh which means I hate Argentina for the Falklands and maradona in the 86’ World Cup but also love their Welsh influence and language
Do you hate the germans for the first and the second world wars?Maybe the french for the hundread years war?
Then we should thank you twice: We love the Welsh and the Scots and we admire the English. The British brought investments and know-how and along with the French help to establish Modern Argentina at the turn of the XX century. Also, they brought their beloved sports and founded clubs all over the land. That's the reason we love football, rugby, polo, hockey and even cricket. Moreover, the South American Anglican diocesis is based in Buenos Aires and the English language taught in schools is still British English unlike the rest of Latin America where American English is king.
@@juanminotti9809 maybe he still hates the Spanish after the attempted invasion of the Armada to the British isles
Well, half of the world hate UK because of the imperialism. We have more friends than UK 👍
does no one there speak English?????
David James why would they?
nope
Stupid question
No, thank God.
Everyone thinks the world revolves around the english language. I know it’s a popular language but most people in the world don’t even speak english as their first language.
Wow 2nd country on planet where there is some welsh language...well thats good then. We can all just travel back and forth just to please the welsh speakers...blah blah blah..
Stfu you twat.
Coc oen.
The second guys welsh was terrible
Oleiaf man trio de
Was not great, but got the just of what he was saying. He wants to go to Cardiff to learn the language as he feels welsh is close to his heart
Very Spanish sounding
Let's see how well you speak Spanish now ;)
Martin van Santen I can speak spanish and welsh lmao come at me
Feel sorry for the sheep there
Why? Maybe the sheep are happy, they aren't running away, are they? ;-) Show 'em some love!
@@x2y3a1j5 Los ingleses dicen que se las cogen, por eso el comentario.
You’re a funny comedian