1) THEY NEED MORE WRITERS AND MORE TIME, AND ACTUALLY REVIEW AND REVISE THE SCRIPTS 2) THEY NEED TO FINISH OR MOSTLY COMPLETE ARCS BEFORE MOVING TO ANOTHER FREAKING ARC 3) THEY NEED TO LET THE ANIMATORS BE CREATIVE WITH FIGHTS so basically, I agree with all the points made in the video
1) Well duh! XD 2) A problem I noticed after Vol.4 3) And/or actually hire a professional storyboarders specialising in 3D animation. Or just have already hired animators do storyboards in 3D program...
Yeah the higher ups at Rooster Teeth or the company who own Rooster Teeth, really need to stop with this crunch time production, because it's not healthy and strangles creativity.
@@tdfern1 Because Warner Bros Media merged with T&T mobile. That and you know these groups tend to want more content for their ecology since most are competing for streaming supremacy. Kind of hard to work on quality when you need a butt fuck ton of more content to attract more followers.
Honestly, the problem with Blake is that she wasn't finished as a character before the show aired, and there are several places in the script where it shows in the worst way. For starters, as the daughter of the former leader of the white fang, there is no way she could have hidden in plain sight the way she did. It would never have worked, and like she told Sun, she was at the front of every rally, took part in every boycott, and when the white fang went rogue, Blake was still apart of it. When the robberies in season 1 take place in such frequency, she should have been questioned by police for being such a prolific suspect. Hell, she never even changed her name or clothes. Dead givaway. Also, during the fight at the docks, she took her bow off before addressing the white fang members. This is done so that the audience can see her expose herself and so that the gunmen can lower their guard in the presence of another faunus. This, however, makes no sense when you again consider that she should be know by sight alone. Exposing her ears would be unnecessary because as white fang members they should be familiar with the VERY ACTIVE DAUGHTER OF THE FORMER CHIEF. She wouldn't need to prove her faunas heritage, it would be known. The high ranking faunus Weiss fought on the train, hell, Roman Torchwick should have known, as closely as he was working with the white fang. And yet none of her enemies exploit this trait of hers. Finally, someone in Blake's position would have never agreed to participate in the Vital Festival. She's in hiding!!! Having her face all over every broadcast screen would have been the worst idea. Too much exposure for someone hiding from Adam and the White Fang. TL;DR : Blake being the daughter of the former white fang leader was added to her character after season 3, and that's why she doesn't make any sense, she was changed halfway through. That, or they were so intent on hiding this fact that they ignored this vital (pun) piece of info that would have drastically changed her character.
ArcArcanum I agree with you. Even though Blake has become one of my favorites after V5. Another problem is that they keep making her repeat the same character arc over and over again. So I hope they stop regressing her character.
When Blake's dad was in charge, the white fang were peaceful. She was at the front of every rally, but she was holding signs, not robbing or murdering. Perhaps when the white fang began to turn, she stepped more into the background, being forgotten as she aged. That may be why she was able to hide in plain sight?
Well they wrote her as if she were a low ranking faunus and frankly it was refreshing when they were all pretty much nobodies except for Weiss. Not a real issue but something I miss.
Fantastic analysis of how Ruby herself could have been a great paragon character if she had actually affected the people around her. She is so close to being a great character, but the missing part is massive.
@@SocraticMayhem yeah kingdom hearts is crazy for sure and ridiculous still love it though but it at least has its main character be the main character and have an effect on things and all the plots lines matter and connect to eachother
CosmicKnight Yeah I still love Kingdom Hearts too. I think some of the games can be pretty annoying, and some moments from any of them are just random spikes of difficulty, but I love playing them regardless. Except chain of memories that can go die. The story is fine, just the gameplay for the remastered versions make me cry. I can play the hand held just fine though. I still think Heartless designs are more fun than Grimm as well. Aside from deadliness factor. Then again there are pretty deadly heartless
This was the most reasonable and well thought out look at RWBY's biggest problems and its why I love your content. I really hope Miles and Kerry have learned from these mistakes because even post Volume 5 I still love these characters and want them to have a good story to work with.
I reeeeallly hope this video finds it's way to M&K and RT as this video may be one of the better incarnates to be appealing to the interests of fans critical of RWBY and also those who've been antagonistic to the critics.
This a clear, concise analysis of what's currently not good about RWBY. If Rooster Teeth wants the audience to keep being interested in their version of RWBY, the writers need to stop restricting the animators. Also, Miles and Kerry REALLY need to reconsider all of the mediocre plot twists that they've been teasing for ages: Ozpin, Salem, the Relics, the Silver Eyes, team STRQ, and Summer Rose's death. They're trying to keep things a mystery to build suspense and drama, but the longer they keep this essential information from the audience, the more anticlimactic the reveals will be. Just look at what happened to Hazel. When I first saw him, I wondered why a seemingly decent person would work for Salem, the literal devil of Remnant. But when Volume 5 gave us the answer, it was absurdly anticlimactic. Ozpin sums up Hazel's backstory with a few sentences, and Hazel becomes an unintentionally comical villain who says: "I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU DEAD!" The writers have told us that they're listening to criticism, but they also said that right before they gave us Volume 5, so I'm going to lower my expectations for Volume 6.
7:08 As much as I dislike how Yang dealing with trauma has been skipped over so much, I'm actually hopeful with these panic attacks that come and go, because that's the actual nature of panic attacks and PTSD. They can come and go in certain situations, and resolution can come years after the actual incident. I'm hoping they go the route they took with Korra in Book 4, where the first time she thought she'd dealt with her trauma was a false flag, and part of her overcoming the problem was realizing how long it would take. Even by the end of the series, she flat out says she never actually feels 'okay' or 'over it.'
This.writing PTSD in fiction has, IMO the same issues as writing depression. PTSD is not one of those things where there is a strict guideline of symptoms. PTSD affects different people in different ways and those people often have different coping tactics too . This clashes against what is expected of good stories which is a consistent narrative,characters depth/arcs etc. how is anyone supposed to write that without it coming off to the viewers as inconsistent? The only i see is that if the author took the time carefully research PTSD by actually finding people who are affected by it.
@@michaelflores9220 Yang's hand was shaking... When she was confronting the man who took her arm. Her hand was just shaking... I'm not an expert in PTSD, but don't you think she'd fucking break down or at least have some other effect if she met the cause of her traumatic experience? Do you seriously think, her hand fucking shaking is a good representation of PTSD? Are you that daft? Hell, the PTSD barely effected her character and yes it did go away. She literally hasn't brought it up nor have her 'symptoms' shown. Even then, her hand shaking didn't really effect much, as at the end of the day she was still largely the same character, and during the fight with the cause of her traumatic experience, she was capable of pulling off technical moves and fought competently. Never once did her trauma become anymore than a minor inconvenience in the story, it didn't result in a character arc, she never struggled to fight or reconnect with her friends, the only thing showing she had it, was her FUCKING HAND SHAKING. I'm sorry for getting angry, but it's just honestly upsetting to see this poor excuse for a representation of PTSD getting defended
If I must be honest: Mystery is something that can be so great and intriguing if done right in a story. There are 2 stories that I absolutely love and I think are prime examples of how to have such amazing mystery in your story: The Lord of The Rings and Harry Potter. In the case of TLOTRs, we always have this feeling that when we read the books or watch the films that we entered into such a grounded and fleshed out world packed full of mystery and intrigue. Whenever I read or watch The Return of The King, most specifically the scene when Frodo, Sam and Gollum come across Minas Morgul, I always get this chilling feeling when it's described and shown to us, and I end up having such a burning (but not frustrating) question as to what may lay behind it's ghostly illuminated gates. And for the case of Harry Potter, right when you enter it's world you get this feeling of wonder and are just amazed that indeed Magic is real. And the mystery is just so interesting and ripe full of intrigue (and quite a few times those questions you have are answered in satisfying ways). But what I think I love the most about J.K Rowling's and Tolkien's use of mystery is the fact that while a good chunk of questions are answered (most importantly the ones that are kept being brought up and serve the story), there is still some that will forever be left up to speculation and theory, and they will probably never be answered. And I hope that Kerry and Miles take lessons from this. But that's just me! :)
Keeping a sense of mystery in a story whilst still answering some questions is actually a story telling technique known by authors! I think your explanation of RWBY's problems with exposition and mystery are very spot on and I agree 100%. Lately it seems almost every episode, somebody is explaining for ten minutes how the world works, and answers questions that should be left unanswered, whilst ignoring questions they should be asking that are important to the story and to character development.
I would add Babylon 5 to your list because it was conceived as a novel for television w/ a beginning middle and end. Furthermore TLOTRs was one of it's literary influences.
@@rrrosadorr Yeah, Babylon 5 is so awesome! I love it's use of mystery just about as much as I do with TLOTRs and Harry Potter, and I love that LOTR was one of it's influences! :)
I honestly feel as if Rwby didn't need Salem, relics, maidens, magic, etc. It feels like it was added for the sake of adding it, feeling ultimately pointless after volume 3. I would've been cool with just maidens, but that's just me but Honestly I don't know why M&K think all of this was really required to make a good show. They have a fantastic world on their own that they could do just about anything they could think of with, fanfiction alone proves this, but they don't need a save the world plot or God's and magical mystery to pull people in and keep them interested and I don't think that's what Monty would've intended. However M&K knew him far more well that I every would but he seems more like a fluid kinda guy with a fluid story which it was in the first 3 volumes where as onwards seems far to linear somewhat bland story. Also it seems pretty light hearted by comparison to his other works like RvB, or Dead Fantasy, tho I think it was supposed to get darker over time, but anyway I just wonder what do they have planned next with this storyline.
@@brandonontama2415 I'm sorry are you saying that just because it was dark or getting darker it wouldn't be good or... It's hard to understand the way you phrased that sentence.
I like your videos alot. Great analysis, video. I enjoy your videos, they're humorous and informational as well as entertaining/engaging. I enjoy your honest views on the RWBY series. Without fans like you, I probably wouldn't enjoy the series as much as I do. And Weiss is best girl
Yes Weiss is my favorite and the best. At the beginning I loved Blake and thought she was going to be the best and most complex... but no. The writers just really seemed amateurish and didn't really seem to know what they were doing but then again I couldn't write any better so I can't complain or criticize too much. Also they seem to be getting better with the games sort of. They did let team RWVY get into blazblue cross tag battle and they're amazing. Arc system works really is the best at 2d fighters. Also rwby amity arena is fun also so they're doing a bit better
You hit the nail on the head in Volume 5. It really did felt like watching a first draft. A lot of stuff felt disconnected and lack of focus, at least during the first half. At least stuff picked up during the second half although it felt rushed.
i agree with you and my problem with this show is it not feel like RWBY like it's a Ozpin story or something but RWBY is there so the show call RWBY? but in the end it guilty pleasure me i like RWBY like the characters
I think the thing M&K didn't quite grasp is that no one was expecting an epic in the vein of ATLA or One Piece or Game of Thrones from RWBY after they watched Volume 1. Hell, after they watched the first episode. What people saw and liked about the show was the heart put into it, the clear effort and passion put into the project. I'm sure some of the more important epic concepts were developing on the back burner, but what I remember most about the first two volumes (which was when I picked it up) was that they weren't exactly ~good~, conventionally speaking, but they were fun. They were enjoyable. There was a story with real potential beneath all the problems. I don't know if the showrunners realize that was the show's main draw, given volume 5. I hope they have that figured out. Also, editing. They need a better editor or they need to fix an algorithm in maia or something, because their shots linger, just. All the time. Even in the trailer, which was supposed to be a hype thing, seemed to have slow editing. Or maybe just too many fades? I'm honestly not sure but they need to fix it.
This was great. I really enjoyed these countdowns to build up hype. It was well worth it too because V6 is looking great already- I won't spoil it but just know it's really good. Also children be nice to those who critique RWBY because they love the show just as much as you.
Possible explanation for Blake's funky character portrayal early on: sometimes she's acting like herself, sometimes she's trying to blend so no one gets suspicious. Just a thought that struck me and kinda made sense.
I agree with this so much, wow. I also think the characters lack emotions and development throughout the series. I feel as if ruby could've been more sad and angered for the reasons of her mothers death and leading onto pyrrahs-pennys, she could also be more questioning about her eyes. Yang and Blake could've been more angered and maybe PTSD due to what they've experienced with Adam and fighting in general. Weiss could simply be more angered due to her family issues. Anyway I also I think we need more in tell on Ruby's mom Summer Rose bc we know nothing about her, but her silver eyes and maybe a connection through Qrow. So yeah ... characters need more development and emotions, this show just needs time and patience. With that said you've done a great job on this video. Well said. :)
I’m honestly more afraid than excited for v6 if it still sucks I’m done, I will say this though you’re videos have made me feel very excited for your upcoming book given all the knowledge you have on writing and story telling as a craft
I'm the same way as you dude. During the hype for the premiere of Volume 5, I was excited as all can be. There's never been a series of media that's ever gotten me as excited about RWBY other than Nier and Kingdom Hearts. But after Volume 5, disappointing is putting it lightly concerning my feelings toward it. It really did some damage so looking back at all I'm a bit sad that I'm not as hyped about the Volume 6 premiere as I should be. Not because it's underwhelming but because I'm trying to brace myself for the disappointment.
@@edgarmorales9950 yeah I am in the same boat as you. I was hyped for vol5 it started out good but fell apart after a few episodes and they ruined adam. Granted they messed him up in vol3 a little bit with his motivations butttt he cut off yangs arm which is my favorite scene in the entire show. Ive been around since vol 2 started and I loved basically everything rwby just had an innocent charm to it so I forgave many of its short comings. Also I loved roman so he kept me coming back. But yeah vol2 was better then one and 3 imo opinion was great since it felt like yessss rwbys finally growing I got to see mercury fight
Well, Chapter 1 was rather well done and seemed to be pretty high quality, so I'm going to try being optimistic. I was concerned with Volume 5 from the very first chapter, as son as they restored to using stills in the first couple minutes (seriously, it looked like they threw in concept art and intended to replace it with models later). We get a bit of action that flows really well and doesn't seem at all hindered by the small bits of conversation in the same sequence (unlike Volume 5, where the last 4 chapters felt overly drawn-out and lacking any real stakes or impact outside of the Raven v Cinder fight). I'm in the same boat as Unicorn of War - RWBY has a special place in my heart and I'm not willing to be blind to its faults, but I do honestly hope they learn from their past mistakes and given the quality level of this first Chapter, it's going to be heartbreaking if it falls apart like Volume 5 did.
For me even with the problems, RWBY is a guilty pleasure and I still enjoy it. I understand all the flaws etc but I still really like the whole series and characters, even if its not a masterpiece.
@@Lord_Mori Several critics seem to jsut obsess over Adam and focus on as not jsut a reason , but THE CHIEF reason they hate/are quitting the show now..Adam is just a side character, people!
Captain America is a great example of a paragon character. What makes his movies so interesting is not the fact that he changes throughout them, but the fact that he changes the world around him with his unwillingness to change with the times. It would be cool to see Ruby effect the story more. Just a thought.
I certainly agree with the mystery point. I was personally very disappointed that all Jaune got was a healing symblance skill. It really annoyed me and I wanted him to be able to play a deeper role in combat, rather than just a, "strategist". Especially since he's got one of the simplest weapons, imagine what he could do if his semblance enabled him to use his sword and shield (and greatsword form) in all new ways. But nope. Got assigned to be a side-healer for the group, all because he's got a lot of aura to give.
I never quite could explain what my problem with the show was except the animation quality dropping and bad writing, but now I can thanks to you elaborating it out. Also, I want to see you voice acting a character. You've got a really pleasing voice. ^0^
Because asking questions doesn't make them money. They already proved this in the first episode Volume 6! "Why do the grimm want this!?" Ruby: "Who cares?!?" EVERYONE DOES RUBY! QUESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT AND ACTUALLY KEEP YOU AUDIENCE WANTING MORE. But the fact that they keep making the character take stupid pills for the sake of money and plot.
I agree a lot with your point on taking there time Tom. They just crank these volumes out as quick as possible and it doesn’t seem they can put everything they need in the volume. Great vid!
Very spot on. I hope they're listening. I love rwby conceptually and the character designs are great generally. Writing well is unfortunately hard. Volumes 1 and 2 are easier to forgive because of the underdog status the show had and the kinetic fight scenes are fun, but they suffered from poorly executed cliche anime tropes. Volume 3 had a great finale but it rushed right into a climax that the story really wasn't ready for. Thete was srtill so much to do that wasnt done yet. By volume 4 expectations are set and People want volume 3 climax-tier writing. People wanted it to be better. The show has made them so much money so they should have more effort going into it. There were issues in volume 4 but it was mostly competent and got them to volume 5, but there they proceeded to fall flat on their face with it because of all the flaws building up. They need to focus on telling a story they want to tell instead of merely trying to court the anime watching crowd for cash.
One of my problems I have with the show that they make so many characters but barely do anything with them will take time to make the characters and give them a name but they won't actually you know develop them
For me, the story has always played second fiddle to the action sequences. And for the last 2 volumes, we've gotten sparse, bare bones, mediocre action. And tons of slow plodding story. Before, I didn't mind the low quality of the story, as the action sequences held up the show. But now, the story isn't good enough to hold up the low quality of the action sequences.
Hate boner at Blake again at the end I'm not even surprised.. I honestly agree with the list and I will add characters relationship dynamic to the list.
Number One problem was EXACTLY my problem with RWBY. The worst thing about the obsession with mystery and build up is that it doesn’t feel like the writers actually know the endgame for what they’re writing and we get these weird little retcons disguised as new information. We’re all just hoping it gets better but it doesn’t seem like Miles and Kerry want to acknowledge that RWBY needs a writing team, not just the two of them. It’s too big for them at this point.
Well, the hard part about that mystery is that, the change between mystery and exposition was very abrupt. It went from "ooh, mysterious villain who might have a justification for her actions" in Part 3 to "Well, there's these two very stereotypical good and bad gods, and Salem is a manifestation of the bad, oh, and there's these four magical mcguffins that represent each season at each of the academies that we have to protect, oh yeah, and and ozpin moves bodies, and caused a lot of bad things to happen, but they were all for the greater good." in Vol. 4/5. They just dumped a whole lot of exposition on us after keeping us all in the dark for 3 years, all of which seems very stereotypical for a show in the genre. It's all probably just as much of a result as that rushed production you were talking about.
And the bit at the end is exactly why you're the only RWBY critic I actually pay attention to. You like the show, and you don't make personal attacks against the people making them, instead merely acknowledging that mistakes have been made. I'm going to disagree with your ranking, however; not having enough time and money to do things right is absolutely the #1 problem with RWBY. There's so much they haven't been able to do because of constraints, and V5 especially lost so much because everything that wasn't Raven v Cinder during the Battle of Haven was on rushed production and a shoestring budget. More time would give the people waiting for secrets to be revealed something to tide them over and let the producers refine the fights and character arcs, and focus. And if they can't get more time, than bringing in more people so they can get more done in less time is a step in the right direction. I'm desparately hoping RWBY eventually gets a live-action adaptation like Avatar: The Last Airbender is getting, where they can make the story what it could have been had they been able to devote sufficient time and money to it from the start.
I feel like RWBY and SAO are in the same vein for me, I can't stop watching/reading/playing everything about those shows, not because they are the best thing ever, but the potential of being incredible and I keep returning to them for this very reason. I want the show to be the best that they can be and everything new from them is getting the same expectation from me.
Hav you read the light novels for SAO? And what about SAO Progressive? besides, if you think Mother's basements' criticisms of Sia are said, you are drunk. Same with Adel Aka's criticisms of RBWY and Genlock.
@@michaelflores9220 I have multiple questions... 1: "if you think Mother's basements' criticisms of Sia are said", could you elaborate, this sentence doesn't quite make sense for me (even if i am fairly good at english it's my second language so might get lost in translation) 2: "Same with Adel Aka's criticisms of RBWY and Genlock", on this one i still have the same question 3: Where do you get that from? i'm drunk cause i think the shows have an amazing potential, but that they dropped the ball in their story? it's my honest opinion, never heard of "Adel Aka" and "Mother's basements" is hypocritical walking feces of a man Also, yes i have read SAO's light novel and SAO progressive, the only one i liked a lot from that series is SAO alternative: GGO, also i found that SAOA: Clover's Regret was a bit above other SAO stuff On the note for RWBY, i dropped the show with the last season, so... can't talk more about that, once i'll have more time, i'll pick it up again, but MMO + university + familly and friends = no time for anything else
@@ironer100 Critics of RWBy are claiming things never happened on RBWY that clearly happened, and want certain storylines stretched out beyond plausible length, without explaining specifically how they would do that. Or they want every character to have a darker and grittier backstory without which they msust not be good characters
@@michaelflores9220 To be fair, my first comment does make i seem like i don't like these shows, I would give them 7/10, but i do feel they could have hit a 9 if there where less things that made me get out of the experience while watching For RWBY, the actions scenes are good, the story feel like stuff gets pulled out of their ass from time to time, but the big line is great (the bumblebee thing didn't piss me off, but i have to admit it kinda goes in here for an exemple) As for SAO... It has some amazing arc, loved and still love the GGO and Alicisation arc (it goes back to mediocre at the war of underworld IMO)... i will avoid ranting on alfhaim, it would be a few pages of rage essays and mother rosario made me fall asleep... As for Aincrad, loved it, but a few parts took me out of it (mostly the harem stuff... and that's coming from the guy loving "My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!").
All this problem could have been fixed but Kelly and Miles arrogance can't let them do it. If you need time do it, fans can wait and they are your best customers don't disappoint them dudes. I'm with you, I criticed this show just because I love it and I want it to surprise me and make me say again "FUCK THAT WAS AWESOME" I can wait till that day comes because That Is The Day I'm Waiting For.
In the end I feel the same too, I know RWBY has a lot of problems (script, plot, animation problems) but I still want to watch it. I don't know if Im addicted or something with RWBY but I agree the show needs to overcome this problems.
They definitely need more time. It's better for them and better for us. We don't, or at least I don't, mind going on a two-year hiatus. I'll live, honest. Come back strong and fresh with great animation, dialogue, plot, ect. If network and other streaming shows need the time why do Miles and Kerry feel like they don't?
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I full on agree with these points. While personally I do hate the fact that the newer volumes tend to rely more on shocking and suspenseful cliffhangers that tend to go almost nowhere or just lose their impact the very next episode, (excluding volume 3 because it at least tried to put impact in what happened) my biggest problems with the series is the consistent yearly volume release, the dodging of important questions, and the unfocused story or unimportant character arcs getting so much time. I have full on loved RWBY for its action, comedy and characters in the past, and even still do to this day. But sadly, not as much anymore. I have a rwby poster in my room, a pumpkin pete hoodie I wear in the winter, and many of the volumes on disc because I have enjoyed the series that much. so I say this out of care for the series, as well as the people behind it. *TAKE. A. BREAK.* there's no harm in coming back when you're ready. Constantly coming out with volume after volume can lead to a series that goes downhill and hits the burnout phase (which is a phase that every creator who constantly works, like i have in the past, will go through. If you don't stop to think about your creation, it won't end up as good as it could have been.). When the newest season of My Hero Academia is finished, I don't expect another one next year, I expect it when they can finish it. I shouldn't have to get notified that the newest volume of RWBY is right around the corner every year, I want to get notified that they're working hard on it, and will release it when they can finish it. Quality over quantity should be the goal here, not quantity over quality.
I am really happy to see someone mentioning RT's problem with the storyboard ... While it's clear many issues with the show come from the lack of time and communication allowed for the animators rarely do people touch on that specific element (regardless of how well or badly handled the animation team is if they have a bad storyboard and inconsistencies the animations will suffer as a consequence) Another big elephant in the room is wether or not rwby as a show overall had proper preproduction.I really need to do my research to evaluate that .After all,perhaps this is another root of rwby's issues lately.
OH, would you look at that? They addressed the focus by cutting down some of the cast, setting up a couple of the ongoing season-long arcs, and the fight choreography in one episode. Realistically speaking it's a huge improvement from the last volume's complains. Optimistically speaking, I'm hoping they actually keep up the momentum since I am not going withstand another 9 months of the same stuff being said. But once again, we will see. Good video, tom. That message at the end still proves why I would prefer listening to you. Never change.
I'm thankful you pointed out the "years" issue. The anime world evolves around seasons so theres always new and repeating shows to watch. Alot aren't given a second season. Because R.T is privately owned and rwby its cash cow it doesnt suffer that threat. With that said any anime would have a good plot and depth if granted 6 years. The show is only currently getting to an actual point and is worshipped by fans as a piece of gold that can do no wrong. The thing to any fan is that's 6 years of your life and me, I naturally analyze what I watch while I'm watching. Its who I am. I cant turn my brain off or just enjoy/accept things. I criticize everything even the shows I love because as you said, we criticize cause we care. I just have abit of a temper and after 5 years and volume 5 I lashed out at miles on twitter for which I'm sorry. But I do feel fans deserve better than a show with it's current flaws like a inconsistent plot and teleport animation. Thanks for the video Unicorn. Appreciate it.
Interesting, I would honestly add one more important issue, how the writters (including Monty when he was alive), dismiss most criticisms with the "I am the one making it, so you cannot say is not good" card. Yeah I know that receiving harsh reactions and comments from fans can be frustating, also I have seen some times the creators admiting the show flaws and acknowledging some of the criticism and telling fans that they are going to fix those issues. But so far I have seen the "I am the creator, don't question me (Or even worse "I don't care")" response more frequently, and the issues aren't still fixed.
I think she meant to watch the first episode a week before. For that you gotta pay but I would not say lucky. I only really like rwby as of right now, so its not worth it for me to get an account.
Rooster teeth is company that has gone public, so now them telling their investors : "nope we need more time for a better product and you'll get nothing this year" is going to be a tough sell, in contrast this should give them access to more capital which mean more people.(That can also go horribly wrong if you don't have a producer who knows his shit and makes sure everybody is on the same page).
I adore your RWBY content. I love it because it’s constructive, and well thought out in which you give fair, and balanced criticism where you give due credit. While I don’t like dragging other channels, the reason why I can’t stand certain RWBY channels (*cough* Axel Aka *cough*) is because they are so goddamn nit picky. All they ever do is shit on the show incessantly. I like that your critique is balanced and actually objective.
Yang is my favourite which makes me sad and annoyed that they missed the whole PTSD and stuck with '1 chapter is her being scared, next she's back to normal'. I would have loved to seen her struggle especially in the months (maybe) in between volumes. It's even worse in v5. I just hope to God that volume 6 makes yang on edge with blake or very distant. It make it better and maybe she could even question herself about possible feelings for blake, yes I want it to happen, bumblebee for life. The reason I started my fanfic was, well one of your videos, I think it was when you improved v4 and it's focusing on her struggle with PTSD and depression. Takes place in the months between v3 and v4 and improves her story in v4. I hope yang gets good development and in a good way. I love the show and I do agree that miles and kerry need a break. I wouldn't mind. There's still 5 volumes I can watch (can't watch v6 chapter 1 yet, site member not first. I hope I don't get it spoiled.) And love even if it doesn't make sense, there's also the game, which I love, I could just play that as well. There's a lot of options to get your RWBY hole filled in if they take a break.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but ain’t Miles and Kerry pretty much writing most of the animated shows? To me, nothing wrong with trying out new things and experimenting, but when you overwhelm yourself with too many projects that would make any writer crack. So new people need to be lead writers. Someone who is quite promising so they can alleviate stress on M and K. All in all, I totally agree with this video lol
I think the criticism RWBY is getting right now is a opportunity to fix things. I see just dozens of youtubers and fans pointing out their errors and the plot holes and i think if they just value those critiques and try to get something out of them, the show can actually come back to it's prime glory. I say this because at first i found those criticism videos annoying and that they just served as a way to send hate to the show, while in reality it shows how much the fans love this show and care about it. Loved the video and already subscribed to the channel, hope to see more !
It seems like all these problems stem from the same source, not knowing what you're doing and then when called out on it, not taking the criticism and improving/letting people who actually know what they're doing work
so from what i got from the premier of volume 6 was that they have learned at least a bit since there are now more people working on RWBY because they are also doing genelock. that may sound like a bad thing to some but in truth its a really good thing as in order to do that they had to compartmentalize and make new teams of specialized people, this will lead to better animation and script writing as now its more like a made for tv animated series team. in other words the script will be better because miles and kerry wont have to do anything but the final calls on any thing else meaning there will be 3 to 4 edits before they see it leaving them more time to write and edit the script.
another thing is that most of the episodes are too short because almos two minutes are of intro and three or two of ending credits leaving only about 16 or 15 minutes per episode. One recomendation as you said is to extend the time between volumes so the can make a better plot but also to make more episodes per volume like in red vs blue (19 episodes per season). Other thing you said that the rush producction caught rwby in volume 5, let me tell you it also caught red vs blue in season 15 witch was aired in the same time as volume 5
I'd kind of rather Ruby have genuine issues rather than be a perfect ideal. Are there any iconic people in history who didn't have their own personal issues? Also, I actually like Cinder... I just wish we got more backstory for her, and an understanding of her motives, so she could be a slightly more empathetic villain... or at least understand her.
On the note of mystery fetishes, I have gotten so much more engaged with the characters and plot since I can now theorize and feel tension with the relics, the maidens, if Salem is planing on bringing the relics together to try to kill the gods again or something similar. Im so glad this has improved!!!
that one black dude Yeah it was just unnaturally stupid of Ozpin and Qrow to never tell Ruby about those seemingly very useful Grimm defeating silver eyes. They were sitting around that house for like what at least a week they could’ve told her. That honestly feels more like the writers not wanting to tackle the silver eyes and not a thing the characters themselves would do.
@@ryancarson6962 exactly it makes no logical sense for silver eyes to be a secret for this long they should have trained her with that instead of hand to hand it also would have expanded the lore of the world it's almost like there holding it off because not even they know what it is yet which again shows there poor decision making
Between being super effective against grim and maidens, Silver eyes are legitly a bigger threat to Salem than Salem is in general. Seriously if a huntress-in-training can put the strongest grimm we know of into a coma and fodderize one of the most powerful people in remnant with a power she didn't even know she had, imagine what Summer could do if she actually knew how to use them. If Ruby can learn to use her silver eyes that makes 99% of Salem's forces useless.
@@spencergreen9415 correction it only works on Grimm it only hurt cinder because she's part Grimm so not so useful against maidens which is a problem since the only thing it does work on isn't a threat so there basically worthless
Or just give her more emotion in her voice, and clearer motivations. Like seriously, I hate how everytime she talks it's the same tone her voice rarely rises or lowers!
Do you guys know something I don't? Last I checked Cinder was dead (albeit with no body shown), yet y'all are talking like she made an appearance in volume 6 already. (and for the record, yes I have seen v6e1)
@@Atlessa did you not see the poster for vol 6 ? It had someone covers in shadow that was clearly cinder plus she's too much of an important character to just get offended like that
I agree on all points except for the storyboards argument. What seems to be happening to me is that not all of the animators excel at fight scenes, and there were only so many Kim Newman's to go around. However, normally storyboards would be there specifically to make up for a large gap in ability by (literally) illustrating the flow of a given fight--see basically any Avatar storyboards. And storyboards aren't as set-in-stone as a lot of viewers seem to think; the strictness of how closely a storyboard is adhered to varies wildly by company, so even in a given sequence, animators are often given freedom to add in little touches here and there; the "It's Over, Isn't it?" storyboards are an excellent example of this, as you can see how the finished product added in little dramatic flourishes here and there for the big climax of the song. By contrast, interviews with the creators of the Miraculous Ladybug have instances where the producers specifically say that the animators are not allowed to deviate from the storyboards, and even then the quality of scenes from Season 1 vs Season 2 vary wildly in quality because different animation studios worked on each season. I think what happened in past volumes (and this seems to have finally been addressed in Vol 6) is that the content seems to have been largely dictated by the writers rather than by someone with an art background. Now that a (the?) lead animator seems to have some say in the storyboarding process, we should hopefully see better constructed fight scenes.
The problem is that RWBY wasn't a show made to tell some grand, detailed story. It was made to be a fun action series. We just got a whole episode explaining literally everything between Salem and Ozpin and there's still things that don't add up. I don't know why Salem is supposed to be a bad guy, why Ozpin hasn't fulfilled his mission to retrieve the four relics even though he has already retrieved the four relics, why Ozpin against the idea of making humanity a better place, and why is anybody mad at anybody else? It really doesn't feel like there's a bad guy in this show anymore even though they clearly want me to think Salem is the most evilest person in the world when she really isn't. It feels even worse with that episode that there was a big fight scene that we didn't get to see even though *that was exactly what the show was made for!* The more crap they explain the more questions they raise. Ozpin said, when asked what his plan is to defeat Salem (not sure why that's the goal), that he doesn't have one. I almost think that's what the writers have too. The show is a mess with a bloated needless story that just deconstructs itself but still tries to act like nothing is wrong. RWBY ignores its strength and fully embraces its flaws tenfold. In the end, RWBY Chibi is just better.
Well done my war horse, when r u gonna break down episode 1 of the sixth? Also miles and a bit of the new staff talked our ears off for 10 mins in the theater before the actual show on how they did and will improve so we'll see, BUT DAMN it was a strong showing thus far and the fight song made up 4 the lack of the intro for me!!!!
I consider myself an optimist at heart... but I only wish I could share your optimism about Volume 6, Unicorn of War. I enjoyed the first four volumes of RWBY, even counting down the days between episodes of volume 4, but episode 5 felt like such a long, hard slog to get through that I started dreading watching it, and now, watching videos like this is making me realize that there were even more problems than I thought. I am 100% sure that you are right that the show can be salvaged in Volume 6, but at this point... frankly, I don't really trust Miles and Kerry to do it. I don't know... I've enjoyed the show in the past, but lately, I've been feeling disillusioned about it to the point that I don't know if I even want to watch Volume 6. :|
I agree completely! I mean in all honesty, I saw the first 3 volumes as us from Ruby's eyes, as the world was whole hearted and fun. But as volume 2 and 3 can along things got darker and darker, as the story began to unfold. But I didn't care about story because they show was entertaining. Whether because it was hilarious or awesome to watch, i didn't care how bad the animation got. But after volume 3, i haven't been able to connect as well with the show. I don't find it fun anymore. Its more boring if anything but i just try to keep with it. I honestly don't know what more could be done with the show besides added more magical elements to screw with the plot, but I really miss the goofy moments team RWBY had. Now its just seems that they are shipping the team with each other to satisfy the fans instead of giving us more entertainment.
Yo, your ending is literally me. I rant to myself about all the good and bad things about RWBY and still I love this god damn show. Ahhhhhhh love RWBY but hate it’s procedures for making this lovely show
I honestly think another thing they could do which would help the production tremendously is air the episodes when they are fully ready and glossed over sure it'll take longer and though some fans wouldn't be keen it'd help give animators more time instead of feeling rushed with a deadline or at least change the deadline so they have more time to work with what has been made all and all love the video and you definitely made really good points maybe you should be hired and help CRWBY and ALL HAIL THE ICE QUEEN
I 100% agree if I am going to be honest. I love RWBY and probably will always do but I wish the writers would do better. Also, you played Blazblue Cross Tag Battle? That is at least one good official game that stars the RWBY cast.
While I don't like to do this, I kinda blame Monty. Sure he passed away too early which is tragic, but he did write the outlines up to volume 5. Despite Miles and Kerry's flaws, they were working off of a shitty script to begin with. While I dunno how Monty would have done it, if Volumes 1 and half of 2 were any indication, they likely wouldn't have been much better. Hopefully since they don't have to follow any outlines they'll do better from now on.
5:46 I was never perturbed about Blake acting more outgoing than usual in the beginning of the first volume. The audience still doesn't know her whole story, and the cast knows even less. So while I was in the moment with watching that episode, there wasn't a problem. Retroactively examining it, I don't see why Blake would be acting like she has a ton of baggage because she's trying to hide keep that hidden from all the new people she's written. Those scenes like her cheering with Ruby and Yang or waving that RWBY flag just seem so inconsequential due to their small portion of screen time, and the Rule of Funny. So I don't understand why Vaccaro returns to them.
Jacob Bielski Unicorn of war returned to that because like it or not those are canon scenes of her character and those scenes make her character feel disjointed and inconsistent. Which was Unicorn of war’s overall point about the problem with Blake. Heck even before that scene she seemed more of a quiet less outgoing person so that still doesn’t work well with her character even then. When you’re reviewing a character you need to acknowledge everything about them even things like this because actions do define characters, even actions that seem small can define a character and who they are.
Honestly I love this show and if more time would make the show better sure but don’t be like attack on titan and take years if you think an extra 6 months or another year would help maybe they should do that cause quality or quantity would be great
I really think one of the worst mistakes is having Ozpin with them. It would have been better for the story and Oscar as a character to have Ozpin kind of removed, being only a collection of memories and/or knowledge that would slowly become available to Oscar (this could have also helped remove the creepy factor of having Ozpin's mind in Oscar's body). This would also let the main cast to actually make their own decisions on what to do. This is coming from someone who actually liked Ozpin's character during the first 3 volumes. Besides that, i agree with most of your points. Giving the animators freedom during the fights is the easiest thing they could do to improve the show, just hope it happens soon, before the end of V6.
Watching this video from beginning to end I cannot help but get that image of the Joker relentlessly pummeling Harley Quinn while stating with that maniacal grin "But you can feel the luv don't you?" Curious thing that ..
Regarding the video game it suffers due to no attention, grantwd it was their first game but a game like that is very bare to what fans would want. I just feel the combat is pretty empty, the story isnt really a thing but just comedic, amd the game kinda doesnt give you the feeling of the character. I would like to see it grow as much as the show and other games but that is coming from me being a major gamer.
@@malachiowens3423 The RNJR arc is, there were 3 other arcs. Volume 4 had some of my favourite character moments, but in terms of build up, volume 3 is better.
I agree with the rush production especially the fact when they have other on going shows on top of that every year as well. This is too much for Rooster Teeth to handle, with Gen:Lock not that far away. I'm worried its writing and production of that as well.
1) THEY NEED MORE WRITERS AND MORE TIME, AND ACTUALLY REVIEW AND REVISE THE SCRIPTS
2) THEY NEED TO FINISH OR MOSTLY COMPLETE ARCS BEFORE MOVING TO ANOTHER FREAKING ARC
3) THEY NEED TO LET THE ANIMATORS BE CREATIVE WITH FIGHTS
so basically, I agree with all the points made in the video
1) Well duh! XD
2) A problem I noticed after Vol.4
3) And/or actually hire a professional storyboarders specialising in 3D animation. Or just have already hired animators do storyboards in 3D program...
Yeah the higher ups at Rooster Teeth or the company who own Rooster Teeth, really need to stop with this crunch time production, because it's not healthy and strangles creativity.
@@tdfern1 It's owned by the Warner Bros Media, so you can guess why they do it.
@@sasukeuchiha998 why do they do it? Because they love money & hate quality?
@@tdfern1 Because Warner Bros Media merged with T&T mobile. That and you know these groups tend to want more content for their ecology since most are competing for streaming supremacy. Kind of hard to work on quality when you need a butt fuck ton of more content to attract more followers.
“What’s the plan Rwby?”
“Die.”
*This killed me*
You followed the plan perfectly.
not Subaru tho
@@MABfan11 from ReZero?
@@etam8099 yes
@@MABfan11 so what Subaru has to do with this?
Honestly, the problem with Blake is that she wasn't finished as a character before the show aired, and there are several places in the script where it shows in the worst way. For starters, as the daughter of the former leader of the white fang, there is no way she could have hidden in plain sight the way she did. It would never have worked, and like she told Sun, she was at the front of every rally, took part in every boycott, and when the white fang went rogue, Blake was still apart of it. When the robberies in season 1 take place in such frequency, she should have been questioned by police for being such a prolific suspect. Hell, she never even changed her name or clothes. Dead givaway. Also, during the fight at the docks, she took her bow off before addressing the white fang members. This is done so that the audience can see her expose herself and so that the gunmen can lower their guard in the presence of another faunus. This, however, makes no sense when you again consider that she should be know by sight alone. Exposing her ears would be unnecessary because as white fang members they should be familiar with the VERY ACTIVE DAUGHTER OF THE FORMER CHIEF. She wouldn't need to prove her faunas heritage, it would be known. The high ranking faunus Weiss fought on the train, hell, Roman Torchwick should have known, as closely as he was working with the white fang. And yet none of her enemies exploit this trait of hers. Finally, someone in Blake's position would have never agreed to participate in the Vital Festival. She's in hiding!!! Having her face all over every broadcast screen would have been the worst idea. Too much exposure for someone hiding from Adam and the White Fang.
TL;DR : Blake being the daughter of the former white fang leader was added to her character after season 3, and that's why she doesn't make any sense, she was changed halfway through. That, or they were so intent on hiding this fact that they ignored this vital (pun) piece of info that would have drastically changed her character.
ArcArcanum I agree with you. Even though Blake has become one of my favorites after V5. Another problem is that they keep making her repeat the same character arc over and over again. So I hope they stop regressing her character.
G0d damn Someone get a heated butter Knife to cut this story
When Blake's dad was in charge, the white fang were peaceful. She was at the front of every rally, but she was holding signs, not robbing or murdering. Perhaps when the white fang began to turn, she stepped more into the background, being forgotten as she aged. That may be why she was able to hide in plain sight?
Except you would still want to keep tabs on her.
Well they wrote her as if she were a low ranking faunus and frankly it was refreshing when they were all pretty much nobodies except for Weiss. Not a real issue but something I miss.
Fantastic analysis of how Ruby herself could have been a great paragon character if she had actually affected the people around her. She is so close to being a great character, but the missing part is massive.
Yeah i see what they were trying to do with her but she is lacking other things like Kingdom Hearts have done it better in my opinion
CosmicKnight That’s saying a lot considering Kingdom heats is considered as a mess.
@@SocraticMayhem yeah kingdom hearts is crazy for sure and ridiculous still love it though but it at least has its main character be the main character and have an effect on things and all the plots lines matter and connect to eachother
CosmicKnight Yeah I still love Kingdom Hearts too. I think some of the games can be pretty annoying, and some moments from any of them are just random spikes of difficulty, but I love playing them regardless. Except chain of memories that can go die. The story is fine, just the gameplay for the remastered versions make me cry. I can play the hand held just fine though.
I still think Heartless designs are more fun than Grimm as well. Aside from deadliness factor. Then again there are pretty deadly heartless
Yeah lazy writing.
If it meant better fights, I'd gladly accept the animation going back to season one level with the background characters all being shadow people.
I would gladly take that even if the price is less professional voice actors. Honestly I think RWBY already looked really good since Volume 2 alone.
This was the most reasonable and well thought out look at RWBY's biggest problems and its why I love your content. I really hope Miles and Kerry have learned from these mistakes because even post Volume 5 I still love these characters and want them to have a good story to work with.
I agree!!! :)
@Phantomskyler I'm conflicted, I really want to upvote your comment but I don't want it to not have exactly 69 likes.
Big flaw: shoulders. Those animators need to figure out how shoulders work. They really don't look natural.
RWBY volumes should be released every other year. One year be RWBY, the next year being Gen:Lock. We would rather have quality over quantity.
The fact that they now have to share production space with Gen:Lock now too has me a tad worried.
I agree Gen Lock is a mistake. Biting off more than they can chew.
*"bRoThErS oF tHe WhItE fAnG!"*
WhY aRe YoU ADDinG THis ScUm!
That last part was a good cut of triumph into the ruby line. Nice editing job
Blake: "what's the plan, Ruby?"
Ruby: "DIE"
LMAO
I reeeeallly hope this video finds it's way to M&K and RT as this video may be one of the better incarnates to be appealing to the interests of fans critical of RWBY and also those who've been antagonistic to the critics.
It's a never-ending cycle with only Tom standing above that cycle. He's really one of the best out there.
This a clear, concise analysis of what's currently not good about RWBY. If Rooster Teeth wants the audience to keep being interested in their version of RWBY, the writers need to stop restricting the animators. Also, Miles and Kerry REALLY need to reconsider all of the mediocre plot twists that they've been teasing for ages: Ozpin, Salem, the Relics, the Silver Eyes, team STRQ, and Summer Rose's death. They're trying to keep things a mystery to build suspense and drama, but the longer they keep this essential information from the audience, the more anticlimactic the reveals will be. Just look at what happened to Hazel. When I first saw him, I wondered why a seemingly decent person would work for Salem, the literal devil of Remnant. But when Volume 5 gave us the answer, it was absurdly anticlimactic. Ozpin sums up Hazel's backstory with a few sentences, and Hazel becomes an unintentionally comical villain who says: "I'LL KILL YOU! I'LL KILL YOU DEAD!" The writers have told us that they're listening to criticism, but they also said that right before they gave us Volume 5, so I'm going to lower my expectations for Volume 6.
7:08 As much as I dislike how Yang dealing with trauma has been skipped over so much, I'm actually hopeful with these panic attacks that come and go, because that's the actual nature of panic attacks and PTSD. They can come and go in certain situations, and resolution can come years after the actual incident. I'm hoping they go the route they took with Korra in Book 4, where the first time she thought she'd dealt with her trauma was a false flag, and part of her overcoming the problem was realizing how long it would take. Even by the end of the series, she flat out says she never actually feels 'okay' or 'over it.'
This.writing PTSD in fiction has, IMO the same issues as writing depression. PTSD is not one of those things where there is a strict guideline of symptoms. PTSD affects different people in different ways and those people often have different coping tactics too . This clashes against what is expected of good stories which is a consistent narrative,characters depth/arcs etc. how is anyone supposed to write that without it coming off to the viewers as inconsistent? The only i see is that if the author took the time carefully research PTSD by actually finding people who are affected by it.
Critics seem to forget how Yan'gs hand was shaking when she met Adam dn that the PTSD wasn't just dropped.
@@michaelflores9220 Yang's hand was shaking... When she was confronting the man who took her arm. Her hand was just shaking... I'm not an expert in PTSD, but don't you think she'd fucking break down or at least have some other effect if she met the cause of her traumatic experience? Do you seriously think, her hand fucking shaking is a good representation of PTSD? Are you that daft? Hell, the PTSD barely effected her character and yes it did go away. She literally hasn't brought it up nor have her 'symptoms' shown. Even then, her hand shaking didn't really effect much, as at the end of the day she was still largely the same character, and during the fight with the cause of her traumatic experience, she was capable of pulling off technical moves and fought competently. Never once did her trauma become anymore than a minor inconvenience in the story, it didn't result in a character arc, she never struggled to fight or reconnect with her friends, the only thing showing she had it, was her FUCKING HAND SHAKING.
I'm sorry for getting angry, but it's just honestly upsetting to see this poor excuse for a representation of PTSD getting defended
@@TortoiseNotTurtle Did'nt result in a character arc?Never struggled to reconnect with her friends? Did you even watch the show? Or just Adel Aka?
Except I related to it isn't exactly good excuse.
If I must be honest: Mystery is something that can be so great and intriguing if done right in a story. There are 2 stories that I absolutely love and I think are prime examples of how to have such amazing mystery in your story: The Lord of The Rings and Harry Potter. In the case of TLOTRs, we always have this feeling that when we read the books or watch the films that we entered into such a grounded and fleshed out world packed full of mystery and intrigue. Whenever I read or watch The Return of The King, most specifically the scene when Frodo, Sam and Gollum come across Minas Morgul, I always get this chilling feeling when it's described and shown to us, and I end up having such a burning (but not frustrating) question as to what may lay behind it's ghostly illuminated gates. And for the case of Harry Potter, right when you enter it's world you get this feeling of wonder and are just amazed that indeed Magic is real. And the mystery is just so interesting and ripe full of intrigue (and quite a few times those questions you have are answered in satisfying ways). But what I think I love the most about J.K Rowling's and Tolkien's use of mystery is the fact that while a good chunk of questions are answered (most importantly the ones that are kept being brought up and serve the story), there is still some that will forever be left up to speculation and theory, and they will probably never be answered. And I hope that Kerry and Miles take lessons from this. But that's just me! :)
Keeping a sense of mystery in a story whilst still answering some questions is actually a story telling technique known by authors! I think your explanation of RWBY's problems with exposition and mystery are very spot on and I agree 100%. Lately it seems almost every episode, somebody is explaining for ten minutes how the world works, and answers questions that should be left unanswered, whilst ignoring questions they should be asking that are important to the story and to character development.
@@FlowersofJannah Thanks, and I agree! :)
@@heyarnold7256 I quite agree! One Piece is another prime example as well for the reasons you mentioned! :)
I would add Babylon 5 to your list because it was conceived as a novel for television w/ a
beginning middle and end. Furthermore TLOTRs was one of it's literary influences.
@@rrrosadorr Yeah, Babylon 5 is so awesome! I love it's use of mystery just about as much as I do with TLOTRs and Harry Potter, and I love that LOTR was one of it's influences! :)
I honestly feel as if Rwby didn't need Salem, relics, maidens, magic, etc. It feels like it was added for the sake of adding it, feeling ultimately pointless after volume 3.
I would've been cool with just maidens, but that's just me but Honestly I don't know why M&K think all of this was really required to make a good show. They have a fantastic world on their own that they could do just about anything they could think of with, fanfiction alone proves this, but they don't need a save the world plot or God's and magical mystery to pull people in and keep them interested and I don't think that's what Monty would've intended.
However M&K knew him far more well that I every would but he seems more like a fluid kinda guy with a fluid story which it was in the first 3 volumes where as onwards seems far to linear somewhat bland story. Also it seems pretty light hearted by comparison to his other works like RvB, or Dead Fantasy, tho I think it was supposed to get darker over time, but anyway I just wonder what do they have planned next with this storyline.
Given that the intro songs for RWBY have always been things like "world of bloody evolution," I think it was always meant to get dark.
@@jiado6893 It doesn't make getting any better, it was still a bad move rather they planned it or not.
Also yes, someone gets it.
@@jiado6893 Yes that's what I was saying tho it was meant to get dark over time especially given how his other works quite dark also.
@@brandonontama2415 I'm sorry are you saying that just because it was dark or getting darker it wouldn't be good or... It's hard to understand the way you phrased that sentence.
That comment about loving it and being obsessed but it not being perfect is so relatable
I am counting down the hours until tomorrow. I haven’t slept in days. Please, send help.
I like your videos alot. Great analysis, video. I enjoy your videos, they're humorous and informational as well as entertaining/engaging. I enjoy your honest views on the RWBY series. Without fans like you, I probably wouldn't enjoy the series as much as I do. And Weiss is best girl
I thought this was just gonna be bashing RWBY, but I have been pleasantly surprised. Subscribed.
Yes Weiss is my favorite and the best. At the beginning I loved Blake and thought she was going to be the best and most complex... but no. The writers just really seemed amateurish and didn't really seem to know what they were doing but then again I couldn't write any better so I can't complain or criticize too much. Also they seem to be getting better with the games sort of. They did let team RWVY get into blazblue cross tag battle and they're amazing. Arc system works really is the best at 2d fighters. Also rwby amity arena is fun also so they're doing a bit better
You hit the nail on the head in Volume 5. It really did felt like watching a first draft. A lot of stuff felt disconnected and lack of focus, at least during the first half.
At least stuff picked up during the second half although it felt rushed.
i agree with you and my problem with this show is it not feel like RWBY like it's a Ozpin story or something but RWBY is there so the show call RWBY? but in the end it guilty pleasure me i like RWBY like the characters
I love how most of the questions he mentioned in number one were answered in volume six😅
I think the thing M&K didn't quite grasp is that no one was expecting an epic in the vein of ATLA or One Piece or Game of Thrones from RWBY after they watched Volume 1. Hell, after they watched the first episode. What people saw and liked about the show was the heart put into it, the clear effort and passion put into the project. I'm sure some of the more important epic concepts were developing on the back burner, but what I remember most about the first two volumes (which was when I picked it up) was that they weren't exactly ~good~, conventionally speaking, but they were fun. They were enjoyable. There was a story with real potential beneath all the problems. I don't know if the showrunners realize that was the show's main draw, given volume 5. I hope they have that figured out.
Also, editing. They need a better editor or they need to fix an algorithm in maia or something, because their shots linger, just. All the time. Even in the trailer, which was supposed to be a hype thing, seemed to have slow editing. Or maybe just too many fades? I'm honestly not sure but they need to fix it.
All I remember from RWBY was the memes. Doubt that many people actually care for the series as a whole.
I'm pretty sure weren't even expecting bleach.
This was great. I really enjoyed these countdowns to build up hype. It was well worth it too because V6 is looking great already- I won't spoil it but just know it's really good. Also children be nice to those who critique RWBY because they love the show just as much as you.
Possible explanation for Blake's funky character portrayal early on: sometimes she's acting like herself, sometimes she's trying to blend so no one gets suspicious. Just a thought that struck me and kinda made sense.
I agree with this so much, wow.
I also think the characters lack emotions and development throughout the series. I feel as if ruby could've been more sad and angered for the reasons of her mothers death and leading onto pyrrahs-pennys, she could also be more questioning about her eyes. Yang and Blake could've been more angered and maybe PTSD due to what they've experienced with Adam and fighting in general. Weiss could simply be more angered due to her family issues.
Anyway I also I think we need more in tell on Ruby's mom Summer Rose bc we know nothing about her, but her silver eyes and maybe a connection through Qrow.
So yeah ...
characters need more development and emotions, this show just needs time and patience.
With that said you've done a great job on this video. Well said. :)
tylrr cameron Yeah and Yang needs to show more emotion about Summer too, as far as I seen Summer was more her mother than Raven really was.
I’m honestly more afraid than excited for v6 if it still sucks I’m done, I will say this though you’re videos have made me feel very excited for your upcoming book given all the knowledge you have on writing and story telling as a craft
I'm the same way as you dude. During the hype for the premiere of Volume 5, I was excited as all can be. There's never been a series of media that's ever gotten me as excited about RWBY other than Nier and Kingdom Hearts. But after Volume 5, disappointing is putting it lightly concerning my feelings toward it. It really did some damage so looking back at all I'm a bit sad that I'm not as hyped about the Volume 6 premiere as I should be. Not because it's underwhelming but because I'm trying to brace myself for the disappointment.
@@edgarmorales9950 yeah I am in the same boat as you. I was hyped for vol5 it started out good but fell apart after a few episodes and they ruined adam. Granted they messed him up in vol3 a little bit with his motivations butttt he cut off yangs arm which is my favorite scene in the entire show. Ive been around since vol 2 started and I loved basically everything rwby just had an innocent charm to it so I forgave many of its short comings. Also I loved roman so he kept me coming back. But yeah vol2 was better then one and 3 imo opinion was great since it felt like yessss rwbys finally growing I got to see mercury fight
Well, Chapter 1 was rather well done and seemed to be pretty high quality, so I'm going to try being optimistic. I was concerned with Volume 5 from the very first chapter, as son as they restored to using stills in the first couple minutes (seriously, it looked like they threw in concept art and intended to replace it with models later). We get a bit of action that flows really well and doesn't seem at all hindered by the small bits of conversation in the same sequence (unlike Volume 5, where the last 4 chapters felt overly drawn-out and lacking any real stakes or impact outside of the Raven v Cinder fight). I'm in the same boat as Unicorn of War - RWBY has a special place in my heart and I'm not willing to be blind to its faults, but I do honestly hope they learn from their past mistakes and given the quality level of this first Chapter, it's going to be heartbreaking if it falls apart like Volume 5 did.
For me even with the problems, RWBY is a guilty pleasure and I still enjoy it. I understand all the flaws etc but I still really like the whole series and characters, even if its not a masterpiece.
@@Lord_Mori Several critics seem to jsut obsess over Adam and focus on as not jsut a reason , but THE CHIEF reason they hate/are quitting the show now..Adam is just a side character, people!
Yang: What’s the plan Ruby?
Ruby: DIE
We seriously need more of these memes xD
Captain America is a great example of a paragon character. What makes his movies so interesting is not the fact that he changes throughout them, but the fact that he changes the world around him with his unwillingness to change with the times. It would be cool to see Ruby effect the story more. Just a thought.
I certainly agree with the mystery point. I was personally very disappointed that all Jaune got was a healing symblance skill. It really annoyed me and I wanted him to be able to play a deeper role in combat, rather than just a, "strategist". Especially since he's got one of the simplest weapons, imagine what he could do if his semblance enabled him to use his sword and shield (and greatsword form) in all new ways. But nope. Got assigned to be a side-healer for the group, all because he's got a lot of aura to give.
Thank you for all your hard work uni all appreciate it
I never quite could explain what my problem with the show was except the animation quality dropping and bad writing, but now I can thanks to you elaborating it out. Also, I want to see you voice acting a character. You've got a really pleasing voice. ^0^
Excellent list Thomas
Because asking questions doesn't make them money.
They already proved this in the first episode Volume 6!
"Why do the grimm want this!?"
Ruby: "Who cares?!?"
EVERYONE DOES RUBY!
QUESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT AND ACTUALLY KEEP YOU AUDIENCE WANTING MORE.
But the fact that they keep making the character take stupid pills for the sake of money and plot.
Is the premier for everyone or members only?
I'm not a member and I was able to watch the premiere, just didn't get a notification until the premiere was over.
Thank you, Tom. Thank you for all you do. I’ll be waiting for your volume six reviews!
I agree a lot with your point on taking there time Tom. They just crank these volumes out as quick as possible and it doesn’t seem they can put everything they need in the volume. Great vid!
Very spot on. I hope they're listening. I love rwby conceptually and the character designs are great generally. Writing well is unfortunately hard.
Volumes 1 and 2 are easier to forgive because of the underdog status the show had and the kinetic fight scenes are fun, but they suffered from poorly executed cliche anime tropes. Volume 3 had a great finale but it rushed right into a climax that the story really wasn't ready for. Thete was srtill so much to do that wasnt done yet. By volume 4 expectations are set and People want volume 3 climax-tier writing. People wanted it to be better. The show has made them so much money so they should have more effort going into it. There were issues in volume 4 but it was mostly competent and got them to volume 5, but there they proceeded to fall flat on their face with it because of all the flaws building up.
They need to focus on telling a story they want to tell instead of merely trying to court the anime watching crowd for cash.
Thank you unicorn of war for making this video You basically said everything that needed to be said prayer circle for vol 6 🙏
One of my problems I have with the show that they make so many characters but barely do anything with them will take time to make the characters and give them a name but they won't actually you know develop them
So instead of saying first can I say -3 ?
For me, the story has always played second fiddle to the action sequences. And for the last 2 volumes, we've gotten sparse, bare bones, mediocre action. And tons of slow plodding story. Before, I didn't mind the low quality of the story, as the action sequences held up the show. But now, the story isn't good enough to hold up the low quality of the action sequences.
Hate boner at Blake again at the end I'm not even surprised..
I honestly agree with the list and I will add characters relationship dynamic to the list.
Paula Ross where is the hate bone? I missed it.
@@vicente8107
- What's the plan Ruby
- Die
Paula Ross I think that was in general. Like “we all die” not “die Blake”.
Biana Doubt Weiss and Blake are my favorite characters in the show.
@Biana Doubt
I wouldn't mind Nora hammer me down for a moment ;)
Number One problem was EXACTLY my problem with RWBY. The worst thing about the obsession with mystery and build up is that it doesn’t feel like the writers actually know the endgame for what they’re writing and we get these weird little retcons disguised as new information.
We’re all just hoping it gets better but it doesn’t seem like Miles and Kerry want to acknowledge that RWBY needs a writing team, not just the two of them. It’s too big for them at this point.
Yang: _“What’s the plan, Ruby?”_
Ruby: *_“DiE”_*
Well, the hard part about that mystery is that, the change between mystery and exposition was very abrupt. It went from "ooh, mysterious villain who might have a justification for her actions" in Part 3 to "Well, there's these two very stereotypical good and bad gods, and Salem is a manifestation of the bad, oh, and there's these four magical mcguffins that represent each season at each of the academies that we have to protect, oh yeah, and and ozpin moves bodies, and caused a lot of bad things to happen, but they were all for the greater good." in Vol. 4/5. They just dumped a whole lot of exposition on us after keeping us all in the dark for 3 years, all of which seems very stereotypical for a show in the genre. It's all probably just as much of a result as that rushed production you were talking about.
And the bit at the end is exactly why you're the only RWBY critic I actually pay attention to. You like the show, and you don't make personal attacks against the people making them, instead merely acknowledging that mistakes have been made. I'm going to disagree with your ranking, however; not having enough time and money to do things right is absolutely the #1 problem with RWBY. There's so much they haven't been able to do because of constraints, and V5 especially lost so much because everything that wasn't Raven v Cinder during the Battle of Haven was on rushed production and a shoestring budget. More time would give the people waiting for secrets to be revealed something to tide them over and let the producers refine the fights and character arcs, and focus. And if they can't get more time, than bringing in more people so they can get more done in less time is a step in the right direction. I'm desparately hoping RWBY eventually gets a live-action adaptation like Avatar: The Last Airbender is getting, where they can make the story what it could have been had they been able to devote sufficient time and money to it from the start.
lol that Spongebob reference was pure win.
I feel like RWBY and SAO are in the same vein for me, I can't stop watching/reading/playing everything about those shows, not because they are the best thing ever, but the potential of being incredible and I keep returning to them for this very reason. I want the show to be the best that they can be and everything new from them is getting the same expectation from me.
Hav you read the light novels for SAO? And what about SAO Progressive? besides, if you think Mother's basements' criticisms of Sia are said, you are drunk. Same with Adel Aka's criticisms of RBWY and Genlock.
@@michaelflores9220 I have multiple questions...
1: "if you think Mother's basements' criticisms of Sia are said", could you elaborate, this sentence doesn't quite make sense for me (even if i am fairly good at english it's my second language so might get lost in translation)
2: "Same with Adel Aka's criticisms of RBWY and Genlock", on this one i still have the same question
3: Where do you get that from? i'm drunk cause i think the shows have an amazing potential, but that they dropped the ball in their story? it's my honest opinion, never heard of "Adel Aka" and "Mother's basements" is hypocritical walking feces of a man
Also, yes i have read SAO's light novel and SAO progressive, the only one i liked a lot from that series is SAO alternative: GGO, also i found that SAOA: Clover's Regret was a bit above other SAO stuff
On the note for RWBY, i dropped the show with the last season, so... can't talk more about that, once i'll have more time, i'll pick it up again, but MMO + university + familly and friends = no time for anything else
@@ironer100 Critics of RWBy are claiming things never happened on RBWY that clearly happened, and want certain storylines stretched out beyond plausible length, without explaining specifically how they would do that. Or they want every character to have a darker and grittier backstory without which they msust not be good characters
@@michaelflores9220 To be fair, my first comment does make i seem like i don't like these shows, I would give them 7/10, but i do feel they could have hit a 9 if there where less things that made me get out of the experience while watching
For RWBY, the actions scenes are good, the story feel like stuff gets pulled out of their ass from time to time, but the big line is great (the bumblebee thing didn't piss me off, but i have to admit it kinda goes in here for an exemple)
As for SAO... It has some amazing arc, loved and still love the GGO and Alicisation arc (it goes back to mediocre at the war of underworld IMO)... i will avoid ranting on alfhaim, it would be a few pages of rage essays and mother rosario made me fall asleep... As for Aincrad, loved it, but a few parts took me out of it (mostly the harem stuff... and that's coming from the guy loving "My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom!").
All this problem could have been fixed but Kelly and Miles arrogance can't let them do it. If you need time do it, fans can wait and they are your best customers don't disappoint them dudes.
I'm with you, I criticed this show just because I love it and I want it to surprise me and make me say again "FUCK THAT WAS AWESOME" I can wait till that day comes because That Is The Day I'm Waiting For.
In the end I feel the same too, I know RWBY has a lot of problems (script, plot, animation problems) but I still want to watch it. I don't know if Im addicted or something with RWBY but I agree the show needs to overcome this problems.
They definitely need more time. It's better for them and better for us. We don't, or at least I don't, mind going on a two-year hiatus. I'll live, honest. Come back strong and fresh with great animation, dialogue, plot, ect. If network and other streaming shows need the time why do Miles and Kerry feel like they don't?
I full on agree with these points. While personally I do hate the fact that the newer volumes tend to rely more on shocking and suspenseful cliffhangers that tend to go almost nowhere or just lose their impact the very next episode, (excluding volume 3 because it at least tried to put impact in what happened) my biggest problems with the series is the consistent yearly volume release, the dodging of important questions, and the unfocused story or unimportant character arcs getting so much time. I have full on loved RWBY for its action, comedy and characters in the past, and even still do to this day. But sadly, not as much anymore. I have a rwby poster in my room, a pumpkin pete hoodie I wear in the winter, and many of the volumes on disc because I have enjoyed the series that much. so I say this out of care for the series, as well as the people behind it. *TAKE. A. BREAK.* there's no harm in coming back when you're ready. Constantly coming out with volume after volume can lead to a series that goes downhill and hits the burnout phase (which is a phase that every creator who constantly works, like i have in the past, will go through. If you don't stop to think about your creation, it won't end up as good as it could have been.). When the newest season of My Hero Academia is finished, I don't expect another one next year, I expect it when they can finish it. I shouldn't have to get notified that the newest volume of RWBY is right around the corner every year, I want to get notified that they're working hard on it, and will release it when they can finish it. Quality over quantity should be the goal here, not quantity over quality.
I am really happy to see someone mentioning RT's problem with the storyboard ... While it's clear many issues with the show come from the lack of time and communication allowed for the animators rarely do people touch on that specific element (regardless of how well or badly handled the animation team is if they have a bad storyboard and inconsistencies the animations will suffer as a consequence)
Another big elephant in the room is wether or not rwby as a show overall had proper preproduction.I really need to do my research to evaluate that .After all,perhaps this is another root of rwby's issues lately.
Dang it, I missed it. The hype they’ve been building up best not be one of those plot twists like “IT WAS RUBY ALL ALONG WHO KNEW?!”
OH, would you look at that? They addressed the focus by cutting down some of the cast, setting up a couple of the ongoing season-long arcs, and the fight choreography in one episode. Realistically speaking it's a huge improvement from the last volume's complains. Optimistically speaking, I'm hoping they actually keep up the momentum since I am not going withstand another 9 months of the same stuff being said. But once again, we will see.
Good video, tom. That message at the end still proves why I would prefer listening to you. Never change.
I'm thankful you pointed out the "years" issue. The anime world evolves around seasons so theres always new and repeating shows to watch. Alot aren't given a second season. Because R.T is privately owned and rwby its cash cow it doesnt suffer that threat. With that said any anime would have a good plot and depth if granted 6 years. The show is only currently getting to an actual point and is worshipped by fans as a piece of gold that can do no wrong.
The thing to any fan is that's 6 years of your life and me, I naturally analyze what I watch while I'm watching. Its who I am. I cant turn my brain off or just enjoy/accept things. I criticize everything even the shows I love because as you said, we criticize cause we care.
I just have abit of a temper and after 5 years and volume 5 I lashed out at miles on twitter for which I'm sorry. But I do feel fans deserve better than a show with it's current flaws like a inconsistent plot and teleport animation.
Thanks for the video Unicorn. Appreciate it.
Interesting, I would honestly add one more important issue, how the writters (including Monty when he was alive), dismiss most criticisms with the "I am the one making it, so you cannot say is not good" card.
Yeah I know that receiving harsh reactions and comments from fans can be frustating, also I have seen some times the creators admiting the show flaws and acknowledging some of the criticism and telling fans that they are going to fix those issues. But so far I have seen the "I am the creator, don't question me (Or even worse "I don't care")" response more frequently, and the issues aren't still fixed.
You people think you're all so lucky having Rooster teeth accounts
Jamal Davis , It’s free. :/
I think she meant to watch the first episode a week before. For that you gotta pay but I would not say lucky. I only really like rwby as of right now, so its not worth it for me to get an account.
@@vaeris_xyz Real estate
Rooster teeth is company that has gone public, so now them telling their investors : "nope we need more time for a better product and you'll get nothing this year" is going to be a tough sell, in contrast this should give them access to more capital which mean more people.(That can also go horribly wrong if you don't have a producer who knows his shit and makes sure everybody is on the same page).
I adore your RWBY content. I love it because it’s constructive, and well thought out in which you give fair, and balanced criticism where you give due credit. While I don’t like dragging other channels, the reason why I can’t stand certain RWBY channels (*cough* Axel Aka *cough*) is because they are so goddamn nit picky. All they ever do is shit on the show incessantly. I like that your critique is balanced and actually objective.
Yang is my favourite which makes me sad and annoyed that they missed the whole PTSD and stuck with '1 chapter is her being scared, next she's back to normal'. I would have loved to seen her struggle especially in the months (maybe) in between volumes. It's even worse in v5. I just hope to God that volume 6 makes yang on edge with blake or very distant. It make it better and maybe she could even question herself about possible feelings for blake, yes I want it to happen, bumblebee for life. The reason I started my fanfic was, well one of your videos, I think it was when you improved v4 and it's focusing on her struggle with PTSD and depression. Takes place in the months between v3 and v4 and improves her story in v4. I hope yang gets good development and in a good way. I love the show and I do agree that miles and kerry need a break. I wouldn't mind. There's still 5 volumes I can watch (can't watch v6 chapter 1 yet, site member not first. I hope I don't get it spoiled.) And love even if it doesn't make sense, there's also the game, which I love, I could just play that as well. There's a lot of options to get your RWBY hole filled in if they take a break.
Yet another person who didn't see the end of volume 6 which shows she is not back to normal quite.
@@michaelflores9220 this was over a year ago...I saw then end...and I agree.
Watching this one months later, well it answered everything you asked for.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but ain’t Miles and Kerry pretty much writing most of the animated shows? To me, nothing wrong with trying out new things and experimenting, but when you overwhelm yourself with too many projects that would make any writer crack. So new people need to be lead writers. Someone who is quite promising so they can alleviate stress on M and K. All in all, I totally agree with this video lol
I think the criticism RWBY is getting right now is a opportunity to fix things. I see just dozens of youtubers and fans pointing out their errors and the plot holes and i think if they just value those critiques and try to get something out of them, the show can actually come back to it's prime glory.
I say this because at first i found those criticism videos annoying and that they just served as a way to send hate to the show, while in reality it shows how much the fans love this show and care about it. Loved the video and already subscribed to the channel, hope to see more !
It seems like all these problems stem from the same source, not knowing what you're doing and then when called out on it, not taking the criticism and improving/letting people who actually know what they're doing work
so from what i got from the premier of volume 6 was that they have learned at least a bit since there are now more people working on RWBY because they are also doing genelock. that may sound like a bad thing to some but in truth its a really good thing as in order to do that they had to compartmentalize and make new teams of specialized people, this will lead to better animation and script writing as now its more like a made for tv animated series team. in other words the script will be better because miles and kerry wont have to do anything but the final calls on any thing else meaning there will be 3 to 4 edits before they see it leaving them more time to write and edit the script.
another thing is that most of the episodes are too short because almos two minutes are of intro and three or two of ending credits leaving only about 16 or 15 minutes per episode. One recomendation as you said is to extend the time between volumes so the can make a better plot but also to make more episodes per volume like in red vs blue (19 episodes per season). Other thing you said that the rush producction caught rwby in volume 5, let me tell you it also caught red vs blue in season 15 witch was aired in the same time as volume 5
I'd kind of rather Ruby have genuine issues rather than be a perfect ideal. Are there any iconic people in history who didn't have their own personal issues?
Also, I actually like Cinder... I just wish we got more backstory for her, and an understanding of her motives, so she could be a slightly more empathetic villain... or at least understand her.
On the note of mystery fetishes, I have gotten so much more engaged with the characters and plot since I can now theorize and feel tension with the relics, the maidens, if Salem is planing on bringing the relics together to try to kill the gods again or something similar. Im so glad this has improved!!!
I’ll give up on ruby in we get nothing about the silver eyed warriors at this point if this new volume doesn’t deliver.
Yep and as he said it wouldn't be your fault it's theres for holding it off for to long We honestly should have learned about silver eyes in vol 5
that one black dude Yeah it was just unnaturally stupid of Ozpin and Qrow to never tell Ruby about those seemingly very useful Grimm defeating silver eyes. They were sitting around that house for like what at least a week they could’ve told her. That honestly feels more like the writers not wanting to tackle the silver eyes and not a thing the characters themselves would do.
@@ryancarson6962 exactly it makes no logical sense for silver eyes to be a secret for this long they should have trained her with that instead of hand to hand it also would have expanded the lore of the world it's almost like there holding it off because not even they know what it is yet which again shows there poor decision making
Between being super effective against grim and maidens, Silver eyes are legitly a bigger threat to Salem than Salem is in general. Seriously if a huntress-in-training can put the strongest grimm we know of into a coma and fodderize one of the most powerful people in remnant with a power she didn't even know she had, imagine what Summer could do if she actually knew how to use them. If Ruby can learn to use her silver eyes that makes 99% of Salem's forces useless.
@@spencergreen9415 correction it only works on Grimm it only hurt cinder because she's part Grimm so not so useful against maidens which is a problem since the only thing it does work on isn't a threat so there basically worthless
11:50 a few weeks later...
Remove Cinder from RWBY then the show will great 😂😂
Or just give her more emotion in her voice, and clearer motivations. Like seriously, I hate how everytime she talks it's the same tone her voice rarely rises or lowers!
@@BladeOfSteel-Sword_Saint let her show other emotions and show her backstory and her end goal and she's good
Oh better yet, let Cinder get brutally defeated by Ruby or Jaune, a proper satisfying death for what she did in Volume 3.
Do you guys know something I don't? Last I checked Cinder was dead (albeit with no body shown), yet y'all are talking like she made an appearance in volume 6 already.
(and for the record, yes I have seen v6e1)
@@Atlessa did you not see the poster for vol 6 ? It had someone covers in shadow that was clearly cinder plus she's too much of an important character to just get offended like that
I agree on all points except for the storyboards argument. What seems to be happening to me is that not all of the animators excel at fight scenes, and there were only so many Kim Newman's to go around. However, normally storyboards would be there specifically to make up for a large gap in ability by (literally) illustrating the flow of a given fight--see basically any Avatar storyboards.
And storyboards aren't as set-in-stone as a lot of viewers seem to think; the strictness of how closely a storyboard is adhered to varies wildly by company, so even in a given sequence, animators are often given freedom to add in little touches here and there; the "It's Over, Isn't it?" storyboards are an excellent example of this, as you can see how the finished product added in little dramatic flourishes here and there for the big climax of the song. By contrast, interviews with the creators of the Miraculous Ladybug have instances where the producers specifically say that the animators are not allowed to deviate from the storyboards, and even then the quality of scenes from Season 1 vs Season 2 vary wildly in quality because different animation studios worked on each season.
I think what happened in past volumes (and this seems to have finally been addressed in Vol 6) is that the content seems to have been largely dictated by the writers rather than by someone with an art background. Now that a (the?) lead animator seems to have some say in the storyboarding process, we should hopefully see better constructed fight scenes.
The problem is that RWBY wasn't a show made to tell some grand, detailed story. It was made to be a fun action series.
We just got a whole episode explaining literally everything between Salem and Ozpin and there's still things that don't add up. I don't know why Salem is supposed to be a bad guy, why Ozpin hasn't fulfilled his mission to retrieve the four relics even though he has already retrieved the four relics, why Ozpin against the idea of making humanity a better place, and why is anybody mad at anybody else? It really doesn't feel like there's a bad guy in this show anymore even though they clearly want me to think Salem is the most evilest person in the world when she really isn't. It feels even worse with that episode that there was a big fight scene that we didn't get to see even though *that was exactly what the show was made for!*
The more crap they explain the more questions they raise. Ozpin said, when asked what his plan is to defeat Salem (not sure why that's the goal), that he doesn't have one. I almost think that's what the writers have too. The show is a mess with a bloated needless story that just deconstructs itself but still tries to act like nothing is wrong. RWBY ignores its strength and fully embraces its flaws tenfold. In the end, RWBY Chibi is just better.
Honestly, you made some great points. And honestly, they have done a great job with it for the first few episodes of Volume 6
Well done my war horse, when r u gonna break down episode 1 of the sixth? Also miles and a bit of the
new staff talked our ears off for 10 mins in the theater before the actual show on how they did and will
improve so we'll see, BUT DAMN it was a strong showing thus far and the fight song made up 4 the lack
of the intro for me!!!!
Me @ volume six: *for the love of the gods, please be good*
I consider myself an optimist at heart... but I only wish I could share your optimism about Volume 6, Unicorn of War. I enjoyed the first four volumes of RWBY, even counting down the days between episodes of volume 4, but episode 5 felt like such a long, hard slog to get through that I started dreading watching it, and now, watching videos like this is making me realize that there were even more problems than I thought. I am 100% sure that you are right that the show can be salvaged in Volume 6, but at this point... frankly, I don't really trust Miles and Kerry to do it.
I don't know... I've enjoyed the show in the past, but lately, I've been feeling disillusioned about it to the point that I don't know if I even want to watch Volume 6. :|
I agree completely! I mean in all honesty, I saw the first 3 volumes as us from Ruby's eyes, as the world was whole hearted and fun. But as volume 2 and 3 can along things got darker and darker, as the story began to unfold. But I didn't care about story because they show was entertaining. Whether because it was hilarious or awesome to watch, i didn't care how bad the animation got. But after volume 3, i haven't been able to connect as well with the show. I don't find it fun anymore. Its more boring if anything but i just try to keep with it. I honestly don't know what more could be done with the show besides added more magical elements to screw with the plot, but I really miss the goofy moments team RWBY had. Now its just seems that they are shipping the team with each other to satisfy the fans instead of giving us more entertainment.
Yo, your ending is literally me. I rant to myself about all the good and bad things about RWBY and still I love this god damn show. Ahhhhhhh love RWBY but hate it’s procedures for making this lovely show
I honestly think another thing they could do which would help the production tremendously is air the episodes when they are fully ready and glossed over sure it'll take longer and though some fans wouldn't be keen it'd help give animators more time instead of feeling rushed with a deadline or at least change the deadline so they have more time to work with what has been made all and all love the video and you definitely made really good points maybe you should be hired and help CRWBY and ALL HAIL THE ICE QUEEN
I 100% agree if I am going to be honest. I love RWBY and probably will always do but I wish the writers would do better. Also, you played Blazblue Cross Tag Battle? That is at least one good official game that stars the RWBY cast.
While I don't like to do this, I kinda blame Monty. Sure he passed away too early which is tragic, but he did write the outlines up to volume 5. Despite Miles and Kerry's flaws, they were working off of a shitty script to begin with. While I dunno how Monty would have done it, if Volumes 1 and half of 2 were any indication, they likely wouldn't have been much better. Hopefully since they don't have to follow any outlines they'll do better from now on.
5:46 I was never perturbed about Blake acting more outgoing than usual in the beginning of the first volume. The audience still doesn't know her whole story, and the cast knows even less. So while I was in the moment with watching that episode, there wasn't a problem. Retroactively examining it, I don't see why Blake would be acting like she has a ton of baggage because she's trying to hide keep that hidden from all the new people she's written. Those scenes like her cheering with Ruby and Yang or waving that RWBY flag just seem so inconsequential due to their small portion of screen time, and the Rule of Funny. So I don't understand why Vaccaro returns to them.
Jacob Bielski Unicorn of war returned to that because like it or not those are canon scenes of her character and those scenes make her character feel disjointed and inconsistent. Which was Unicorn of war’s overall point about the problem with Blake. Heck even before that scene she seemed more of a quiet less outgoing person so that still doesn’t work well with her character even then. When you’re reviewing a character you need to acknowledge everything about them even things like this because actions do define characters, even actions that seem small can define a character and who they are.
Honestly I love this show and if more time would make the show better sure but don’t be like attack on titan and take years if you think an extra 6 months or another year would help maybe they should do that cause quality or quantity would be great
I’m willing to wait.
I really think one of the worst mistakes is having Ozpin with them. It would have been better for the story and Oscar as a character to have Ozpin kind of removed, being only a collection of memories and/or knowledge that would slowly become available to Oscar (this could have also helped remove the creepy factor of having Ozpin's mind in Oscar's body). This would also let the main cast to actually make their own decisions on what to do. This is coming from someone who actually liked Ozpin's character during the first 3 volumes.
Besides that, i agree with most of your points. Giving the animators freedom during the fights is the easiest thing they could do to improve the show, just hope it happens soon, before the end of V6.
My fave is Blake, tell me yours
Watching this video from beginning to end I cannot help but get that image of the Joker relentlessly pummeling
Harley Quinn while stating with that maniacal grin "But you can feel the luv don't you?"
Curious thing that ..
1st/ Most of season 5 and 6
Both rwby and bleach have the same issues. We shall see what happens.
They need to get the dragon balls so Monty could finish and animate the story it was meant to be in the first place.
Volume 7
1. More action
2. Longer time to work on it
3. Wrap up of mysteries
Regarding the video game it suffers due to no attention, grantwd it was their first game but a game like that is very bare to what fans would want. I just feel the combat is pretty empty, the story isnt really a thing but just comedic, amd the game kinda doesnt give you the feeling of the character. I would like to see it grow as much as the show and other games but that is coming from me being a major gamer.
Volume 4 is my favorite volume. Don’t even @ me.
Daniel Smi really? Why? It’s just them walking.
@@malachiowens3423 The RNJR arc is, there were 3 other arcs. Volume 4 had some of my favourite character moments, but in terms of build up, volume 3 is better.
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I agree with the rush production especially the fact when they have other on going shows on top of that every year as well. This is too much for Rooster Teeth to handle, with Gen:Lock not that far away. I'm worried its writing and production of that as well.