Which Modlite PL350 Head Is For You? | PLHv2, OKW, PLH5k
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- Which Modlite PL350 pistol light head is right for you? We do an in-depth comparison of the PLHv2, PLH5k, and OKW. Which one has the longest runtime? The most candela? Brightest output? Find out in this light lab video.
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This channel = flashlight geek meets gun enthusiast. Nice work.
PLH5k for handguns and CQB applications, PLHV2 and OKW for rifles.
Once I learned about how modlite was smoking the competition, my plan was OKW for .308, PLHv2 for 5.56, and PLH5k for 9mm.
Marshmallows are yummy in my tummy tum
I’m not sure I’d ever want the OKW. It has almost no spill, but def more candela than the others. I guess that would work if you’re trying to PID at ONLY 100 yards away. I chose the PLHv2, for my pistol but wish i would have waited for the PLH5K :/
For my AR-15, I’m still looking at the Cloud Defensive OWL. But time will tell
@@WoodrowWoods2007 I hate my CD rein.
@@guitaristguy20 Could you explain why that is?
These flashlight reviews are just as awesome as your holsters and are both very much appreciated.
This video was exactly what I needed to decide on which one to get, gave me the information that I needed
That was our intent! Make it useful for folks such as you trying to decide!
Thanks for the work you put into this. I really needed to see how the PLH5k compared to other heads, and it seems that's the one I really want after all.
Thanks for the feedback! My intent with this video was to help folks like you come to an informed conclusion on which light head is right for you.
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Awesome explanation and thorough presentation.
Thank you!
Great info! Seen your Surefire X300 video and your previous Modlite video and i got to say that i trust your opinion and data over other reviewers!
Thank you. Our desire is to be neutral and fair so that you can make an informed decision.
@@WerkzHolsters that goes a long way in my book. Thank you and keep up the great work and vids!
My first light was a PLHv2, but I currently run the OKW on my PL350. I wasn't too interested in the PLH5k before this video, but now I am having second thoughts.
The PLH5k is a lot wider than the other two... possibly depends upon your environment.
This video is amazing!!!
Thanks
Fantastic video!!!!
Great Work! Thx for the comparison:)
My pleasure!
Great content!! Thank You
Great analysis!
Thanks much!
Great review. Really helps us get an idea of which light to get. Cant wait to see what Cloud does with the new lights though,
I'm anxious to see what Cloud does as well.
I think cloud’s lights will be similar to the PLHK5 and the OKW.
PLH5K perfect for a pistol light (PL350). OKW and PLHV2 perfect on rifles. I've only owned the PLHV2 and PLH5K until now so I'm excited to try out the OKW. I tested all 3 in my backyard last night but heavy mist/fog washed them all out, could hardly tell the difference in any of them which is crazy considering how different they are. Light performance impacted by weather conditions is a super important factor to consider as well.
Seems like you have a good handle on how to use these heads for your needs. And yes, environmental conditions are one of the key things to think about. Good feedback!
Interesting to see that the 5k looks like it’s actually close to the advertised lumen output.
Well done.
If you realize the Okw adds a “blind” and semi-stun to your presentation, it’s actually the best at actual fighting.
When I run a Modlite, it usually has the OKW on it.
This is it. I love that someone is doing this with weapon lights. There used to be a couple blogs that did testing of this quality with handhelds a few years ago, but even that stuff has disappeared for the most part. I especially like the candela at angle charts. Very useful in quantifying beam profile. Another test that I've done myself on a few lights which you might consider is repeat startup output testing to see how well the light returns to full output after it has been run to its step-down. This is a "realistic" output test since lights are cycled on and off during real use. Most lights perform well in returning to full output, but I haven't seen much data on these newer lights that have very high outputs. Thanks for doing all of this work!
That's an excellent suggestion. I'll see if we can integrate. TBH, there are so many lights, that simply getting decent lumen and candela data on all lights is tough enough. If I can figure out how to standardize something like this, then probably we can integrate. Great feedback!
The way I used to do the test on my own lights (to satisfy my own curiosity) is to run them to the first programmed step-down and then power off for a determined amount of time before repeating. The output charts generated might only be 1-2 minutes each, but you can take a higher sample rate of output during the shorter duration to get a detailed view of that first couple minutes of the runtime in which you will spend most of your time in during real use. Total runtime at full power will be much lower and would also be an interesting data point. But again, the content you're already producing is above and beyond anything else available on this topic and I'm subbed.
@@coffeeandlifting Thanks for the input. It's giving me some ideas...
Excellent vid! I'm still waiting for them to make a hand focusable head so I could make the light have a wider spill for when indoors and when I'm outside I could focus it down to really see in the distance
That's interesting. Does Modlite have something like that planned?
@@WerkzHolsters If they don't already then they should
My theory as to why no one else except Maglite is doing that is bc Maglite has a patent on it. I have absolutely no research to support this theory though. I use Maglite as reference to my customers when explaining the difference between lumens and candela
If the guys at work knew about these videos, I'd never hear the end of it. They already call me "the ilLUMENator".
Still think the plhv2 is the way for everything 100-150yds and in. Even on a pistol.
Plhv2 pl350
Great comparisons. I do disagree somewhat with all these high candela lights for close up work. They are great for outdoors at distance. Go to 7:03 . Now imagine a scenario where you enter the room and there are 3 purps each about 8 ft from each other and you flash your light on the guy in the middle. Would you rather have the surefire or the modlite? With the Modlite you cant even see 8 ft from him. With the Surefire the whole area is lit up. Lumens is the LED or light source and candela is the reflector. If you want to see how many pimples the guy in the 7ft wide beam has then you want go for the high candela focused beam. If you want to see that he is a guy with a gun and he has a couple friends to his side 9-10ft then a wide , lower candela but same lumen beam is better i think.
I agree that when outside, and there is nothing to reflect off of, many of the highly focused lights don't provide enough spill for such a scenario. Indoors has the benefit of walls / ceiling / floor to bounce off of. Like all things, lights have tradeoffs, and everyone has a different set of concerns.
Have you guys done the plh5k vs tlr1 hl?!
I need light for defence when I am walking in dark streets for blindenning. what would you recommend? I like PLHv2, but not sure is it works for that kind of settings.
All 3 of these heads are strong. If you want the most focused hotspot to blind someone, the OKW has the highest candela.
Think you’ll ever test some Malkoff Devices heads? Think any of those are a good alternative for Surefire & Modlite?
We are happy to queue up tests for any of the mid to high end manufacturers. There are quite a few folks out there, and I've not personally investigated Malkoff. You have any contacts there?
Anyone know if these modlites on glocks fit a safariland holster?
I think the OKW is too focused for short to midrange engagements. It seems that you either are able to disorient the subject or see what he’s doing with his hands but not both at the same time at those distances. I think the PLHV2 is a decent compromise and will go with that for everything but my rifle. That will get an OKW.
Thanks for your inputs!
@@WerkzHolsters of course after I said that, I bought a handheld 18650 OKW as a defensive light when in NPEs. I figured I wanted as much disabling light as possible in those instances.
@@Stealther Thanks for circling back and letting us know what you decided! I think that "painful+" effect on subjects is real.
I’m curious if the PLH5k is any different than the original PLH heads
We don't have an original on hand to test, unfortunately.
There should be some new lights coming out in shot show. Right?
Modlight is beast in the meantime
I'm hoping we will see some new stuff on the market. Cloud has been teasing their handheld, so maybe they'll get us something for pistol soon...
It's a shame the 5k was discontinued
Ok, finally I know the difference.
I'm glad it's helpful!
Are these the same heads that the rifle lights use?
I believe those are the 3 heads that Modlite has, and I understand the same heads are used handheld, pistol, or rifle. Actually Modlite has 4 heads, but one is IR.
would the 5k light head fit on their carbine light?
I would ask Modlite directly for a definitive answer. However, my guess is "yes". The heads all interchange on my handheld and all interchange on the PL350 pistol light. Hope that helps!
anyone know why the 5k was discontinued?
I would be curious as well if anyone knows the answer...
Why is the 5K head gone?
I'm asking the same question. It might be discontinued.
Did you ever get it figured out regarding modlite products not actually putting out the numbers stated by them?
Nope. Though I've heard from another light manufacturer that Modlite has started removing claims or changing the output claims on the Modlite site... could be just rumor.
@@WerkzHolsters gotcha. Yeah I’m torn. I want the new CD items. But only downside I have if that CD isn’t coming out with a light with similar numbers to the PLHV2 which are numbers I’d prefer.
@@johnathankim6721 I agree! The question is how they compare head to head in the lab and in real world use. I'll probably just test the Cloud direct to the Modlite and TLR-1HL and see how it does.
@@WerkzHolsters looking forward to that review!
Hope to see your review of the new cloud defensive heads!
Solid as fak!
Thats a far cry from the 54k advertised candela from modlite
I think all the light manufacturers are having trouble meeting candela claims. What may be more important is to get a data using the same test rig (mine) for comparison purposes. Most people cannot tell the difference between 54,000cd and 30,000cd without lab equipment. And that may be why we see so many lights falling short of claims -- no one is out there to dispute the ratings.
Till this day, the subject is blind.
Heh.