Thanks for this video. Your videos are the best I have seen. Straight and to the point with no nonsense. So much easier to watch a 15-20 minute video and get to tuning instead of watching other 1 hour + videos and being confused.
Hands down the best tuning videos on TH-cam but I know this is an old video but when you talked about P.E settings when tuning MAF just leave the P.E on stock settings and tune that way I'm new at this so please help me thanks so much for your hard work
I started over at the MAF Tuning and Scaling Video for GEN IV, then ended up over here when the GEN IV stuff looked so odd (I'm working with a very simplified 0411 - thankfully one of the commenters on the GEV IV video was in a similar situation and asked my question). Once I got to this video I didn't understand how the wideband was getting into the logging, but upon rewatching a few times I believe that the "AFR Error Math" must pull it in automatically from the serial port when it sees it (makes sense). For some reason that was really tripping me up, but I think I get it now. Also, the fact that adding a graph is under "graphs layout" somehow slipped by me in the GEN IV videos, so I couldn't figure out how to build a graph, but here I caught it. Thanks for all these videos - I would stand no chance without them.
As follow up, went out and put everything on the truck - weird issue where when I start scanning, all my channel configurations (which I set up based on this video and the Gen IV videos) go back to some sort of default setup. From that default setup if I go to add channels, it looks like the other channels (the ones I actually want) are selected, but they don't appear on the list. Must be a software problem (running 4.4.4 - latest version - checked for updates), or I just really don't understand how this is supposed to work. Either is possible.
Figured it out. Watched the video on the VCM Scanner and it talked about having too many channels / PIDs logging - that was my problem. I'm sure the 0411 is very limited in this area - once I got it down to the three I really needed it worked immediately.
One thing I found when doing this is that STFT is still enabled and making changes to fueling when following these steps. There is a setting under the "Open Loop/Base" tab that allows you to disable STFT in open loop. I did this and it makes the fueling solely based on the MAF without STFT.
Hey kyle thanks so much for the videos they've all been super helpful. just wanted to drop a small correction here even though it probably doesn't apply to many people. manual transmissions use the same dfco as autos the clutch transition just delays dfco kicking on when you press the clutch so that your rpms don't drop like a rock to idle while your trying to shift. in my truck it seams to work like a lazy version of auto rev matching.
Finally got all my stuff in and installed on my 98 vette, I got the maf dialed in today! Thanks Kyle your videos made me believe I could. Now to watch sd 30 more times and on to the next step.
Loving it so far. Sat here at work and setup the scanner for datalogging so I can go out and start tweaking on my 2003 2500HD after work. Just got it today and this thing is a TURD! Seems like this will be a good platform to get my feet wet tuning. Thanks for the vids!
Thank you, Kyle. This is quite helpful to me. Have done zero tuning myself. Like Busa0069 said--the reason why something is done is just as important to learn as how it is done.
Hey buddy this was very helpful in ur honest opinion where would the beginner no laptop no nothing not just ur set up but everything a person needs to learn and purchase I'm disabled and can't get around to good but I still need a in come I'm not the smartest tool in the shed but everything u have said and showed in ur videos it really makes sense one of the 1st I've actually could understand with all that being said just a brief list of thing I need and dont where I can't be cheap and what's pointless thank u ahead of time buddy keep u the good work
Hey Adam, HPTuners is a great platform to learn on and the nice thing about it is that it will run on almost any decent laptop, in fact I tested out the cheapest one I could buy on Amazon, and while it didn't run blazing fast, it was still good enough to get data logs and make changes.
Let me first say that you are one of the best video instructors out there for HP Tuners GM tuning in TH-cam. There is something that I still find confusing. Can you please clarify the logic behind the “multiply by % half” and how that gets you close to the actual MAF value? I’m having trouble getting my head wrapped around the mathematical logic behind this. Lets say that at a current value of 100g/s at a given MAF frequency the log reads AFR to be 25% off error to the richer side (error of -.25), does this mean you multiply by %half of this value meaning it will multiply 100 x -.125 and just put this new result on the cell? This doesn’t make sense, unless it adds the multiplication result of 100 x -.125 which is -12.5 to the original 100, bringing it down to 87.5. This makes more sense in my mind. Please clarify. Many thanks.
Thanks man! You are right, if you are multiplying by half, say you have a 10% error (10% error would be 10% lean in this case, -10 would be rich), when you do the multiply by % - half it is going to take that and convert it to the equivalent of 105%, effectively multiplying by 1.05. If you were to do the same for -10% it would be .95 by the time you used the mulitply % by half. Thanks for watching!
Thanks man! You are right, if you are multiplying by half, say you have a 10% error (10% error would be 10% lean in this case, -10 would be rich), when you do the multiply by % - half it is going to take that and convert it to the equivalent of 105%, effectively multiplying by 1.05. If you were to do the same for -10% it would be .95 by the time you used the mulitply % by half. Thanks for watching!
only problem I see so far is that someone brand new like me - has zero knowledge of the pages on HP, nor what each box does - and you are teaching like it is second nature for us. Go here do this do that :)
Finally found someone making videos that are truly educational! I’ve watched some multiple times learning something new each time! I have a question, (it is close to a comment below). When building the chart in your MAF tuning video ( Tuning Series Vol. 3 ). You creat a new math filter using the math from “EQ Ratio Error”, then replace the EQ Ratio [sensor] variable with the AEM input. But when building the chart in this video you use AFR Error instead. I will be tuning on my 98 Trans Am and I have an AEM 30-4110. Can I build the chart from Tuning Series Vol. 3 or would it be better to build the chart from this video?
I have done this and it seemed to help a little bit. I did a complete engine rebuild and it has aftermarket air intake headers no cats and a btr stage 4 v2 truck cam. I have played with the spark advance a little but i don't wanna get too crazy and destroy anything. I have the AEM wideband on it and its running lean.
New to tuning, figured this is the best place to start. Thanks for the great videos. Im trying to dial in my MAF and get between plus and minus 1. Each day it logs different, cooler days its reading rich (-1.5 to -2.5) after it sits for a few or on hotter days i can dial it in and keep it pretty consistent around zero. My question is, how do i know what is correct? its obviously temp related. I thought the maf compensated for IAT. Its brand new by the way. Stock engine with long tubes, CAI, and AEM wideband
Correct, that is why it's imperative you have a wideband that can produce correct error ratios. First mod should always be a wideband if you're getting into tuning
Love the videos mate very informative. Great for people starting out. I have a question can you elaborate more on what issues the larger cam will have tuning with maf as I want to keep my maf and I’ve just gone large cam lol, thanks mate
Under open loop tab, Do you need to disable the Open loop STFT? If we're forcing open loop for tuning with the wideband wont the STFT Still function if you leave that enabled? I'm new to tuning so trying to get it all straight so my afr err ratio is correct.
Watching this video, made me realize ,I know nothing about tuning. I have 2007 Pontiac solstice gxp with 60000 miles. What kind of tune is the best for it
Can you do a tutorial on MAF tuning for gen 3 with cam & smaller chamber heads? It just wants to run lean??? Maybe one on SD too if wouldn't mind? Thanks
Love your videos. Do you think you could make one covering o2 switching points and what might be gained by altering them? I've heard you can gain fuel mileage. Also what needs to be done when installing headers as far as transport delay and anything else I may have missed?
What's the advantages of going to the LS7 MAF over the stock one in the Gen 3. The motor that's going in the truck is a Summit Racing 450hp 5.3. The intake is a Fast LSXRT with the Nick Williams 103mm throttle body. The air cleaner is one of the Volant air systems.
Got directed here from a Sloppy post. Great content! Is there a video on the high level operation of GM ECUs? From startup to closed loop, when is MAF vs VE used, how are fuel trims calculated and used. Most driving is done on the narrow band O2 sensor feedback, going rich/lean to maintain stoich, so why tune MAF and VE, just for PE?
I have watched numerous videos, where you change the values prior to logging maf, then changing them back. Is there a reason you aren't just copying the MAF calib changes to the "as found" file and then writing that, rather than going back and re-enabling all the LTFT trims?
May have scrolled through this too fast when coming back, but in your intro to tuning series on your truck you pulled 5 degrees spark and added some early fuel to start rich. Would you do that here too? I just got long tubes, full exhaust, and CAI and am hitting low 15 AFR at idle and wondering if I should do like a 1.05-1.1 multiplier before going out and MAF tuning. Thoughts?
Hey man I'm setting everything up in the histogram the same way but when I try to log data all that populates are green "100.00's" across the board. Any idea what on what might be causing this? any help is greatly appreciated thanks!
I cannot get this graph to work. When copying the data using copy labels it only copies column axis headers and will not work for logging or anything else. Any ideas as to why this is?
Hey man, no clue what I am doing, but I followed the directions and setting up the Histogram and nothing is populating. So my AEM wideband populates the table? Does the AFR Error automatically know to use the wideband AFR from the AEM. I purchased the 30-0334 without realizing it doesn’t work with pre-2007 PCMs and that’s probably why it’s not populating. Sorry, I am literally one day into doing this and have zero prior FI experience.
Thank you for this video! straight to the point! Question: During MAF tuning, how can I avoid the IVT vs Map gains within open loop. I am afraid to set the Gains to 1.0 for tuning process. Is it possible to do a graph to recalculate commanded AFR vs EQ for this case? Thanks!
Thanks for all the awesome videos, you’ve helped me decide to learn how to tune my car after the build! My question is does this work the same if Ive went to a card style maf? Or do I need to change something first? P59 and my iat sensor is in the lid of my lsa..
When done with MAF how many of the disabled parameters do we enable? I have the MVPI3 and wideband 2000 WS6 Firebird with mild cam, LS6 intake and longtube headers. Thanks for the Great videos. I have yet to make any changes, I paid to have the car programmed. Little confidence in the guy that did the tuning, only one in the area.
I just got my HP Tuners and I have never tuned anything. Lol I have a 2017 chevy Silverado. I put a cold air intake and a cat back exhaust on it. I used HP Tuners to disable DOD and thats it so far. What else could I or should I do to help this truck with a little more power and/or better efficiency? Love your videos. Thank u.
I made a mistake by not following your videos sooner. I also made a mistake by not saving my base tune from my truck. Any advice? 2012 silverado 6.2l. I was told my GM dealer could reinstall the original tune. Is this correct? You go through tuning so fast it reminds me of me talking about curling ice!!
My ltft will not disable, i did every step in the video and checked after myself multiple times on a checklist but still cant get the ltft to disable on a p01 pcm,
I'm a first time tuner of a 2005 Chevy SS with the turbo and a mild cam I need to know how to tune it or begin to tune it and get my afrs where they need to be and I have no mass air flow sensor
I’m working with a 2003 5.3 so I purchased your scanner package and it’s awesome BUT I can’t get any readings on the maf or vve graphs. I’ve made sure all the parameters are selected that are needed. Looking at the predetermined maths the pids are white and should be scanning. I have maf sensor, eq commanded, air-fuel ratio commanded, mass airflow, absolute pressure, rpm. Still graphs not showing data. Please help
For some reason hp tuners is not populating my afr error histogram. The button to repoll is greyed out. I also have the aem 4110 when I do the user defined and divide it by 10. The computer side shows 1.49, but the gauge it self shows 14.0. In order for it to read right I have to use gas 14.7
Great video. I'm following along step by step, but I cannot get my scanner to log AFR error to copy and paste back into my editor. Not sure why...any ideas? I do not have my wide band feeding to the comp yet. Would that matter?
Do I have to have a wide band on my silverado to tune my stock truck? I am wanting to clean up the fuel curve and maybe make a little more efficient power over the factory tune. Thanks.
I have a question brother have u ever had an issue with the mass air flow senor .. not stop pooping up I've had my truck tuned twice an there nothing wrong with my mass air flow senor.. needless to say I still have the engine light still on for that an primary ignition h light .. I'm lost an have no clue what to do. Any help would be helpful
Hey Kyle Great video as always thank u for all ur help in tuning community. Maybe u could help me out here don’t have anything to do with this lesson. Having trouble with my 2011 Silverado 2500Hd. Bank 1 sensor 2 just went out on me. Iv put 3 different 02 sensors in 2 new 1 stock. Tested all three with OEM’s meter all seem to be fine. I cant get any MV’s to read maybe 1-2 like it’s trying to work. Iv tested the 02 lead or connector from wiring harness with test light get good connection on power wire and pulse wen truck is running I believe that would be the heater wire or connection rite. But anyhow im at at a standstill here just thought maybe u could help. Any advice or ides would be very appreciated along with all ur videos. Keep up the good work. Thanks Josh.
Should I interpolate everything past 9000hz because when I paste special by half my graph spikes up a lot but everything past 9000hz doesn't change because there is no data to multiply there
Video was great but in my channels it shows the AFR and EQ ratio as external inputs. Would I have to run the pro version MPVI2 to be able to get those values?
I just updated size of tubing and intake and maf using 12576410 maf card from ls3 or 7 now only 1500 cell populates? Still ok hz but now can’t log maf curve….. any ideas?
Just buying hp tuners had it tuned by a shop with it comes off the line very weak I have a 2006 Chevy 1500 with a 5.3 cammed , ported heads , 4.10 rear end and a 4l60 with a 2800 to 3200 circle d stall and a Corvette servo please any help will be appreciated
Should I be using AFR error or Eq error? I am using a uego wide band. If I have eq error table but it does not read afr error. Are these essentially the same for tuning maf? I can use AFR err or EQ error for the same result?
I'm super late. But I run a mystic teal filp flop chameleon Gm factory paint code LS gen 3 nitrous small tire car. So does this apply for us nitrous guys. Thank
When I’m MAF tuning I can get couple decent tunes in but it seems once my IAT’s begin to heat up I begin to see lean readings in the EQ error. I’m curious why this happens? I have closed loop disabled. It is a gen 3 with a cold air intake and long tube headers. Oh yeah and I live in South Texas so it always hot. If you have any pointers. I’d appreciate it.
This may be a dumb question, but what would be the reason for doing this? How does this benefit the engine itself? I have an lq4 in my 03 2500hd with true duals and a k&n intake... So not much is done to it at all, the thing has zero torque management and the power enrichment is actually able to be activated.. unlike the factory tune. As for how far I can go without changing timing, is that about it? (91 octane is too expensive and I hear stories about gas stations putting 87 in the 91 tank when they can't get 91) so needless to say I just stay away from changing the timing at all
On gen 3 is the afr error and eq error math interchangeable and able to be used on maf and ve tuning? I have been using eq error and probably doing it all wrong.(2000 Pontiac trans am ws6)
I cant get my graph setup on my scanner for the oldschool 98 v6 camaro ecu. I have the maf error on my Gen V and Gen 3 LS working fine, but this one doesnt want to work. Have HPT Pro with Innov LC2 logging on input 1 for AFR. I tried custom math for the LC2 and AFR commanded, as well as just following this vid. Neither worked. Any ideas?
Okay I did everything you did but when I go out and do a pool it doesn't record anyting the numbers that you had that popped up and green all of them staid 0
You say to keep power enrichment enabled for MAF tuning. What about some vehicles like my 03 chevy 2500hd, where power enrichment is effectively disabled from the factory?
Thanks for this video. Your videos are the best I have seen. Straight and to the point with no nonsense. So much easier to watch a 15-20 minute video and get to tuning instead of watching other 1 hour + videos and being confused.
Bud..your truly into this stuff..but dam, you blasé through so fast! I have to keep hitting rewind!..lol good stuff bud, keep it up!
play it at .5 speed
This video has helped me so many times. Every time I go to tune a new project I come back to these for invaluable information. Thanks again.
Hands down the best tuning videos on TH-cam but I know this is an old video but when you talked about P.E settings when tuning MAF just leave the P.E on stock settings and tune that way I'm new at this so please help me thanks so much for your hard work
You from Mobile? Rebuild transmissions and such? I'm from the other side of the bay.
I started over at the MAF Tuning and Scaling Video for GEN IV, then ended up over here when the GEN IV stuff looked so odd (I'm working with a very simplified 0411 - thankfully one of the commenters on the GEV IV video was in a similar situation and asked my question). Once I got to this video I didn't understand how the wideband was getting into the logging, but upon rewatching a few times I believe that the "AFR Error Math" must pull it in automatically from the serial port when it sees it (makes sense). For some reason that was really tripping me up, but I think I get it now. Also, the fact that adding a graph is under "graphs layout" somehow slipped by me in the GEN IV videos, so I couldn't figure out how to build a graph, but here I caught it. Thanks for all these videos - I would stand no chance without them.
As follow up, went out and put everything on the truck - weird issue where when I start scanning, all my channel configurations (which I set up based on this video and the Gen IV videos) go back to some sort of default setup. From that default setup if I go to add channels, it looks like the other channels (the ones I actually want) are selected, but they don't appear on the list. Must be a software problem (running 4.4.4 - latest version - checked for updates), or I just really don't understand how this is supposed to work. Either is possible.
Figured it out. Watched the video on the VCM Scanner and it talked about having too many channels / PIDs logging - that was my problem. I'm sure the 0411 is very limited in this area - once I got it down to the three I really needed it worked immediately.
One thing I found when doing this is that STFT is still enabled and making changes to fueling when following these steps. There is a setting under the "Open Loop/Base" tab that allows you to disable STFT in open loop. I did this and it makes the fueling solely based on the MAF without STFT.
Cheers for all the videos mate, I put a LFX into a 2017 MX5 and your tips have helped me heaps
Glad to hear it!
Man I’m relearning everything I dove into 12 years ago. Back before TH-cam is what it is today. Finally getting my C5 tune dialed in after a cam swap.
Best tuning channel i have come across! Extremely smart and great infornation
Hey kyle thanks so much for the videos they've all been super helpful. just wanted to drop a small correction here even though it probably doesn't apply to many people. manual transmissions use the same dfco as autos the clutch transition just delays dfco kicking on when you press the clutch so that your rpms don't drop like a rock to idle while your trying to shift. in my truck it seams to work like a lazy version of auto rev matching.
Thanks!
Finally got all my stuff in and installed on my 98 vette, I got the maf dialed in today!
Thanks Kyle your videos made me believe I could. Now to watch sd 30 more times and on to the next step.
Finally a new tuning vid. Keep em coming. Really want to see a vid of you doing a tune for a cam install on a gen 4 truck or something close.
andrew geary I agree! And gen 4 idle tuning.
@@drewgraff7748 I'm in on this also!!!
I third this!
I got fourth!
Loving it so far. Sat here at work and setup the scanner for datalogging so I can go out and start tweaking on my 2003 2500HD after work. Just got it today and this thing is a TURD! Seems like this will be a good platform to get my feet wet tuning. Thanks for the vids!
great video and thanks for doing Gen 3. Suggest a Gen 3 Idle video as well. Good work
Dude you’re awesome. Thank you for these videos
best tuner !!!😂 bought ur layout for tuning graphs and everthing
Thank you, Kyle. This is quite helpful to me. Have done zero tuning myself. Like Busa0069 said--the reason why something is done is just as important to learn as how it is done.
Hey buddy this was very helpful in ur honest opinion where would the beginner no laptop no nothing not just ur set up but everything a person needs to learn and purchase I'm disabled and can't get around to good but I still need a in come I'm not the smartest tool in the shed but everything u have said and showed in ur videos it really makes sense one of the 1st I've actually could understand with all that being said just a brief list of thing I need and dont where I can't be cheap and what's pointless thank u ahead of time buddy keep u the good work
Hey Adam, HPTuners is a great platform to learn on and the nice thing about it is that it will run on almost any decent laptop, in fact I tested out the cheapest one I could buy on Amazon, and while it didn't run blazing fast, it was still good enough to get data logs and make changes.
Let me first say that you are one of the best video instructors out there for HP Tuners GM tuning in TH-cam. There is something that I still find confusing. Can you please clarify the logic behind the “multiply by % half” and how that gets you close to the actual MAF value? I’m having trouble getting my head wrapped around the mathematical logic behind this. Lets say that at a current value of 100g/s at a given MAF frequency the log reads AFR to be 25% off error to the richer side (error of -.25), does this mean you multiply by %half of this value meaning it will multiply 100 x -.125 and just put this new result on the cell? This doesn’t make sense, unless it adds the multiplication result of 100 x -.125 which is -12.5 to the original 100, bringing it down to 87.5. This makes more sense in my mind. Please clarify. Many thanks.
Thanks man! You are right, if you are multiplying by half, say you have a 10% error (10% error would be 10% lean in this case, -10 would be rich), when you do the multiply by % - half it is going to take that and convert it to the equivalent of 105%, effectively multiplying by 1.05. If you were to do the same for -10% it would be .95 by the time you used the mulitply % by half. Thanks for watching!
Thanks man! You are right, if you are multiplying by half, say you have a 10% error (10% error would be 10% lean in this case, -10 would be rich), when you do the multiply by % - half it is going to take that and convert it to the equivalent of 105%, effectively multiplying by 1.05. If you were to do the same for -10% it would be .95 by the time you used the mulitply % by half. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for another video 👍🏼
only problem I see so far is that someone brand new like me - has zero knowledge of the pages on HP, nor what each box does - and you are teaching like it is second nature for us. Go here do this do that :)
Finally found someone making videos that are truly educational! I’ve watched some multiple times learning something new each time! I have a question, (it is close to a comment below). When building the chart in your MAF tuning video ( Tuning Series Vol. 3 ). You creat a new math filter using the math from “EQ Ratio Error”, then replace the EQ Ratio [sensor] variable with the AEM input. But when building the chart in this video you use AFR Error instead. I will be tuning on my 98 Trans Am and I have an AEM 30-4110. Can I build the chart from Tuning Series Vol. 3 or would it be better to build the chart from this video?
Build the one that matches what you're tuning, these are just general guidelines
Am I missing something… I’ve made the AFR Err table three times and still can’t get any values to show up after a drive.
I love this channel ❤
Learning alot from these vids, looking to tune my 04 Chevy 4.3L in my overlanding adventure camping rig.
Those still use a distributor?
Yeah, with a triggered coil to adjust timing, so you have wide bars that connect the rotor giving you electronic timing adjustments
Really glad the gen 3 videos are out there. What wideband would you recommend if you use a hp tuner MPVI2 on a Ls1.
very good explanation
I have done this and it seemed to help a little bit. I did a complete engine rebuild and it has aftermarket air intake headers no cats and a btr stage 4 v2 truck cam. I have played with the spark advance a little but i don't wanna get too crazy and destroy anything. I have the AEM wideband on it and its running lean.
No bullshit, straight to the point. Thanks!
Huge help brother!
Can you talk a little about what a "good" tune run looks like? Is a 10 minute drive, 30 minutes? Drive fast, slow, etc?
great video
i have learned so much from you. thank you
Help me tune my 5.3 with a truck noris cam new to tuning been binge watching videos for three weeks
New to tuning, figured this is the best place to start. Thanks for the great videos.
Im trying to dial in my MAF and get between plus and minus 1. Each day it logs different, cooler days its reading rich (-1.5 to -2.5) after it sits for a few or on hotter days i can dial it in and keep it pretty consistent around zero. My question is, how do i know what is correct? its obviously temp related. I thought the maf compensated for IAT. Its brand new by the way.
Stock engine with long tubes, CAI, and AEM wideband
gen 3 L33
You should always disable STFT when doing MAF and SD VE correct? Otherwise I would think the computer is making adjustments.
Correct, that is why it's imperative you have a wideband that can produce correct error ratios. First mod should always be a wideband if you're getting into tuning
@@GoatRopeGarage So on a gen 3 with p59 computer, I should disable STFT under Engine-Fuel-Open Loop-STFT open loop?
Loving this videos man ... any plans to address trans tuning ? Just did a 4l80e and segment swap in my NNBS.
Yeah, there will be some very soon.
Yes I need some 4l80 tuning info also!
Can you do a vid on e38 maf calibration, also stuff we should look at when swapping intake manifolds/ cold air intakes
Yep, it's on the to do list!
Great vids bro!
Love the videos mate very informative. Great for people starting out. I have a question can you elaborate more on what issues the larger cam will have tuning with maf as I want to keep my maf and I’ve just gone large cam lol, thanks mate
Most times it won't be too bad as SD is doing some fuel adjustments where the cam had the biggest effect on the MAF which is lower rpms
Good video
Under open loop tab, Do you need to disable the Open loop STFT? If we're forcing open loop for tuning with the wideband wont the STFT Still function if you leave that enabled? I'm new to tuning so trying to get it all straight so my afr err ratio is correct.
Watching this video, made me realize ,I know nothing about tuning. I have 2007 Pontiac solstice gxp with 60000 miles. What kind of tune is the best for it
Can you do a tutorial on MAF tuning for gen 3 with cam & smaller chamber heads? It just wants to run lean??? Maybe one on SD too if wouldn't mind? Thanks
Nothing changes, you can tune a stock Gen 3 or a Gen 3 with the craziest cam and twin turbos and the process is the same
Love your videos. Do you think you could make one covering o2 switching points and what might be gained by altering them? I've heard you can gain fuel mileage. Also what needs to be done when installing headers as far as transport delay and anything else I may have missed?
I'll try and dive into then eventually, Cam. Thanks, as usual, for watching!
You on a Ford platform?
I have a ford with the "Spanish oak" ecu. And also a p01
Sounds a little harder than I know , but might be willing to donate to you have you look at my tune see why it won’t idle at lower rpm’s
What's the advantages of going to the LS7 MAF over the stock one in the Gen 3. The motor that's going in the truck is a Summit Racing 450hp 5.3. The intake is a Fast LSXRT with the Nick Williams 103mm throttle body. The air cleaner is one of the Volant air systems.
Got directed here from a Sloppy post. Great content! Is there a video on the high level operation of GM ECUs? From startup to closed loop, when is MAF vs VE used, how are fuel trims calculated and used. Most driving is done on the narrow band O2 sensor feedback, going rich/lean to maintain stoich, so why tune MAF and VE, just for PE?
Yep, pretty much! That's the critical place on the tables anyhow. Check out the playlists because I cover a lot of the topics you're asking about.
I have watched numerous videos, where you change the values prior to logging maf, then changing them back. Is there a reason you aren't just copying the MAF calib changes to the "as found" file and then writing that, rather than going back and re-enabling all the LTFT trims?
Nope, you could do it that way too.
May have scrolled through this too fast when coming back, but in your intro to tuning series on your truck you pulled 5 degrees spark and added some early fuel to start rich. Would you do that here too? I just got long tubes, full exhaust, and CAI and am hitting low 15 AFR at idle and wondering if I should do like a 1.05-1.1 multiplier before going out and MAF tuning. Thoughts?
Should add it’s a ‘98 vette with first iteration gen 3 ecu
Hey man I'm setting everything up in the histogram the same way but when I try to log data all that populates are green "100.00's" across the board. Any idea what on what might be causing this? any help is greatly appreciated thanks!
I cannot get this graph to work. When copying the data using copy labels it only copies column axis headers and will not work for logging or anything else. Any ideas as to why this is?
Hey man, no clue what I am doing, but I followed the directions and setting up the Histogram and nothing is populating. So my AEM wideband populates the table? Does the AFR Error automatically know to use the wideband AFR from the AEM. I purchased the 30-0334 without realizing it doesn’t work with pre-2007 PCMs and that’s probably why it’s not populating. Sorry, I am literally one day into doing this and have zero prior FI experience.
Thank you for this video! straight to the point!
Question: During MAF tuning, how can I avoid the IVT vs Map gains within open loop. I am afraid to set the Gains to 1.0 for tuning process. Is it possible to do a graph to recalculate commanded AFR vs EQ for this case? Thanks!
Thanks for all the awesome videos, you’ve helped me decide to learn how to tune my car after the build! My question is does this work the same if Ive went to a card style maf? Or do I need to change something first? P59 and my iat sensor is in the lid of my lsa..
Hey great video , so after your done tuning maf ,switch back to closed loop maf tune ? just wanted to make sure ,thanks
When done with MAF how many of the disabled parameters do we enable? I have the MVPI3 and wideband 2000 WS6 Firebird with mild cam, LS6 intake and longtube headers. Thanks for the Great videos. I have yet to make any changes, I paid to have the car programmed. Little confidence in the guy that did the tuning, only one in the area.
I just got my HP Tuners and I have never tuned anything. Lol I have a 2017 chevy Silverado. I put a cold air intake and a cat back exhaust on it. I used HP Tuners to disable DOD and thats it so far. What else could I or should I do to help this truck with a little more power and/or better efficiency? Love your videos. Thank u.
I'm waiting on my AEM AF gage. It was on back order. It should be here this week.
I made a mistake by not following your videos sooner. I also made a mistake by not saving my base tune from my truck. Any advice? 2012 silverado 6.2l. I was told my GM dealer could reinstall the original tune. Is this correct? You go through tuning so fast it reminds me of me talking about curling ice!!
My ltft will not disable, i did every step in the video and checked after myself multiple times on a checklist but still cant get the ltft to disable on a p01 pcm,
I'm a first time tuner of a 2005 Chevy SS with the turbo and a mild cam I need to know how to tune it or begin to tune it and get my afrs where they need to be and I have no mass air flow sensor
Can you explain how to do this with logging wideband through the egr circuit?
I will see what I can do, that might be a tricky one without physically doing it...
Same as above cant get the pro at this time
I’m working with a 2003 5.3 so I purchased your scanner package and it’s awesome BUT I can’t get any readings on the maf or vve graphs. I’ve made sure all the parameters are selected that are needed. Looking at the predetermined maths the pids are white and should be scanning. I have maf sensor, eq commanded, air-fuel ratio commanded, mass airflow, absolute pressure, rpm. Still graphs not showing data. Please help
I’m not using a wide band also maths are in lambda...
I’m can not get it to work, my ve table is on manifold pressure bar. On my channel I don’t have manifold pressure on bar only in volts.
Tips
For some reason hp tuners is not populating my afr error histogram. The button to repoll is greyed out. I also have the aem 4110 when I do the user defined and divide it by 10. The computer side shows 1.49, but the gauge it self shows 14.0. In order for it to read right I have to use gas 14.7
Hey, goat rope garage, MAF screen in or out?
Great video. I'm following along step by step, but I cannot get my scanner to log AFR error to copy and paste back into my editor. Not sure why...any ideas? I do not have my wide band feeding to the comp yet. Would that matter?
Do I have to have a wide band on my silverado to tune my stock truck? I am wanting to clean up the fuel curve and maybe make a little more efficient power over the factory tune. Thanks.
I have a question brother have u ever had an issue with the mass air flow senor .. not stop pooping up I've had my truck tuned twice an there nothing wrong with my mass air flow senor.. needless to say I still have the engine light still on for that an primary ignition h light .. I'm lost an have no clue what to do. Any help would be helpful
Im trying to convert your information from hp tuners to tunerpro... when disabling maf, what are some steps I can take to so so?
Will you be doing a transmission tuning video anytime soon?
Yep, have a laundry list of videos to try and get out!
Hey Kyle
Great video as always thank u for all ur help in tuning community.
Maybe u could help me out here don’t have anything to do with this lesson.
Having trouble with my 2011 Silverado 2500Hd. Bank 1 sensor 2 just went out on me. Iv put 3 different 02 sensors in 2 new 1 stock. Tested all three with OEM’s meter all seem to be fine. I cant get any MV’s to read maybe 1-2 like it’s trying to work. Iv tested the 02 lead or connector from wiring harness with test light get good connection on power wire and pulse wen truck is running I believe that would be the heater wire or connection rite. But anyhow im at at a standstill here just thought maybe u could help. Any advice or ides would be very appreciated along with all ur videos.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks
Josh.
I keep getting a p0101 and then the fuel trims start changing all my readings
Hey Goat Rope, why didn't you disable Open Loop STFT's?
I was wondering the same thing, may STFTs still seem to be factoring in.
EQ Err came in out of nowhere. Is it unrelated for tuning the MAF?
Should I interpolate everything past 9000hz because when I paste special by half my graph spikes up a lot but everything past 9000hz doesn't change because there is no data to multiply there
Video was great but in my channels it shows the AFR and EQ ratio as external inputs. Would I have to run the pro version MPVI2 to be able to get those values?
It won’t populate the tables for me🤦♂️ I’ve set it up exactly like you have but it won’t put any data into the tables.
I just updated size of tubing and intake and maf using 12576410 maf card from ls3 or 7 now only 1500 cell populates? Still ok hz but now can’t log maf curve….. any ideas?
What are your thoughts on welding a o2 bung in a X pipe for the wide band ? Is it to far back?
Ehh, won’t be too bad
Just buying hp tuners had it tuned by a shop with it comes off the line very weak I have a 2006 Chevy 1500 with a 5.3 cammed , ported heads , 4.10 rear end and a 4l60 with a 2800 to 3200 circle d stall and a Corvette servo please any help will be appreciated
Do you have a video or a suggest video on the very basics of H.P. tuners? I’m thinking of getting one but I want an over view on how to use it.
Check out www.tuning101.com and the playlists, there is some basics covered in the HP Tuners 101 series
I've been just turning off LTFT and Closed Loop via the VCM scanner. I assume that's just as good?
Yep!
@@GoatRopeGarage thanks man!
Should I be using AFR error or Eq error? I am using a uego wide band. If I have eq error table but it does not read afr error. Are these essentially the same for tuning maf? I can use AFR err or EQ error for the same result?
Do you have any vids on converting from a gen3 style maf to a card style?
I'm super late. But I run a mystic teal filp flop chameleon Gm factory paint code LS gen 3 nitrous small tire car. So does this apply for us nitrous guys. Thank
When I’m MAF tuning I can get couple decent tunes in but it seems once my IAT’s begin to heat up I begin to see lean readings in the EQ error. I’m curious why this happens? I have closed loop disabled. It is a gen 3 with a cold air intake and long tube headers. Oh yeah and I live in South Texas so it always hot. If you have any pointers. I’d appreciate it.
This may be a dumb question, but what would be the reason for doing this? How does this benefit the engine itself? I have an lq4 in my 03 2500hd with true duals and a k&n intake... So not much is done to it at all, the thing has zero torque management and the power enrichment is actually able to be activated.. unlike the factory tune. As for how far I can go without changing timing, is that about it? (91 octane is too expensive and I hear stories about gas stations putting 87 in the 91 tank when they can't get 91) so needless to say I just stay away from changing the timing at all
On gen 3 is the afr error and eq error math interchangeable and able to be used on maf and ve tuning? I have been using eq error and probably doing it all wrong.(2000 Pontiac trans am ws6)
Yep, it's the same thing just that one targets AFR and the other EQ ratio, which is easier to use on later generations
are you able to log your wideband AFR with only the standard version of HP tuners? if not how do you work around this
You can if your wideband supports serial.
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So I have a mpvi2 and I do have a wide band in my car but it doesn’t support serial, can I still do this?
5.3 sloppy stage 2 cam.
Thanks to you, I just completed a couple rounds of maf tuning, and I’m wondering , what % of error I should be calling this good?
Anything less than 5% is usually solid, your narrowband sensors will easily correct the rest
@@GoatRopeGarage thanks much!
So even if it's running lean I still paste special multiply%-half
If it's lean you can do paste special %
Thanks you
I really hope you see this, Could I still tune my afr without a wideband or tune my Maf sensor or anything in general
Not in a way that is going to provide a safe tune
I cant get my graph setup on my scanner for the oldschool 98 v6 camaro ecu. I have the maf error on my Gen V and Gen 3 LS working fine, but this one doesnt want to work. Have HPT Pro with Innov LC2 logging on input 1 for AFR. I tried custom math for the LC2 and AFR commanded, as well as just following this vid. Neither worked. Any ideas?
Okay I did everything you did but when I go out and do a pool it doesn't record anyting the numbers that you had that popped up and green all of them staid 0
You're not getting all the data in, check your wideband and make sure it is reading
Do you need an external wideband to do this kind of tuning. It's not mentioned on this video.
why did you choose 25% when building the table
When your done scaling the MAF do you turn dynamic back on? Or do the cars just run off MAF all the time? Thanks
You say to keep power enrichment enabled for MAF tuning. What about some vehicles like my 03 chevy 2500hd, where power enrichment is effectively disabled from the factory?
Yeah, you can look at some it in to see if you get some performance out of it, if you're modifying I'd highly suggest it