Honestly, this is the most underrated channel I've seen. Such a long and well thought out video goes largely unnoticed. Keep up the good work and this is only the beginning! :)
Two things 1: should they make a remake of the first three paper Mario games/ the three most popular Like 3D all stars 2: the quality of this channel is way to good to just have 10 k subs
@@Fierywell They were dying _before_ the remakes. That's why they tried using the remakes as a way to pull themselves out of the hole they were falling into. I mean, what better way to build up some cash than simply re-using your newest game engine to remake some of your older, popular games? In theory, you should be able to do that much quicker/easier than a completely new one. They were just stuck with unfortunate timing, since by the time they released even the 1st remake, the Switch had already been out for several months. No one really wanted to look at the 3DS anymore by that point, so that naturally crippled the potential sales on its own.
@@King_Luigi Not to mention how stiff the Turn-based RPG competition was on the 3DS by then. You have one of the best games of all time in SMT: Devil Survivor. And then like 5 other highly rated SMT games. Etrian Odyssey, Dragon Quest, Tales, etc. Why would I ever pick up a turn-based Nintendo game at that point?
Honestly, I wish they just brought games like earthbound, paper Mario, Pikmin, etc on switch through a game pass like system because people like me never played them so it’d be kinda cool and also 4 ppl wanting to replay them but on the switch
So what, the gameplay of origami king and the world building/characters/story of ttyd? I honestly don’t see what you can take from this game that ttyd didn’t just do but better.
I don't think that works. I mean, it's like combining cake, spaghetti, and pizza. All are really good, but putting them together makes something called "shit"
I was genuinely scared for this one, this looked awkwardly similar to color splash, I played a bit of origami king and actually, it's good, and I adore the music and the battle system, but keep in mind it isn't perfect, it's just a-okay! :I
13:37 Danerade: says he's only going to show footage of the first 5 chapters Also Danerade: shows the second to last boss that takes place in the 6th chapter immediately before the final boss
I feel like even though origami king has some generic worlds, they really make those generic worlds unique one way or another. The woods section had the talking trees, the dessert section had the Vegas town and the lack of sunlight, the water area was literally wind waker, and the sky world had an awesome thing going on with bowsers castle, pretty much the darkest most villainous area in all of mario, crashing into this heaven like spa, meant to renew your mind and body. Also as a side note, literally every single paper mario game since the first one had a generic grassland as the first chapter area. Its basically a staple in the series at this point, just like the gameshows
I think a super paper Mario approach where there’s no turn based combat you just fight the enemies in the over world would be the best approach sure it’s not the best corse of action but if they keep messing up the battles it would probably be best to just get rid of it and focus on the games strengths of the levels themselves
I honestly disagree because the original charm of the battles was using Mario and your partners in the right way to beat the enemies, if it was just over world battles then that part of the game would be lost.
@@James-sm7kn I’m not denying that the originals are good cause they are its just I’ve lost faith in modern paper Mario being able to make a decent rpg game with the half and half method they got going is just not working for me oragami kong and color splash the best parts in the game had nothing to do with battles it was the levels/areas themselves so if they can’t do an rpg right why bother and just rebrand it as an action platformer where the game can play to there strengths
@@zegop5736 and what I am saying in terms of battles I think they are slightly going in the right direction I would take origami king battles over what the 3rd paper Mario game had going for it.
I'd be perfectly fine with this. If the developers want to make an action-adventure game, then make a fucking action-adventure game. Why do they continue to cling on to RPG elements like turn-based combat if they don't want to make an RPG? I'll never understand the identity crisis that the newer Paper Mario games have.
8:34 I get your salt about the easier gameplay objects, but like mind you I was nine when I picked up my first Paper Mario game because of how kiddy and cute it looked. Nine year old me would've been fucked trying to solve puzzles in this game without a hand, and it's not like they can't be turned off.
Are you meaning that switch games are really bad or Paper Mario are really good? Note: this was the first paper mario I had (but I played Super Paper Mario) I loved it. I want to play the thousand year door now.
Well I mean, first 2 paper mario games were the turn based ones, spm was the platformer, and the next 2 were turn based but you have use cards/stickers, they're all different but when the devs think they can push an idea further they make another before changing it up again, I do get what you mean though.
This is my favorite game but there is a mechanic that make the bosses way too easy (except scissors) and that system is cheering it gives you lots of hp just for 999 coins
I think this game is a solid 7-7.5/10. Not a masterpiece as you said, and not sticker 3. This game was super fun and charming. Definitely being hated for the wrong reasons.
I feel that if they throw out the stupid rule of having no original Mario characters then paper Mario will benefit from it. Some of the best Mario characters were not toads like Francis, magus con grapple, Vivian, goombella, bobery, count blek, dooplis. They were diverse and added depth and works building to Mario’s world. What ever happened to that? Having an antagonist that’s not bowser and having some enemies that act as partners is a step in the right direction. By the way if you like classic Paper mario then look at bug fables.
Hey I have a idea:You know Eclise Right? Well what about if you do "Eclise"But with the levels of the REGULAR PVZ 2 levels You basically play 10 Levels of each world and go in the same other the worlds are played in the PVZ 2 Eclise...Even Include PVZ2 Modern Day... Then "Eclise" Part 2 Starts in Ancient Egypt Play the levels like this for Eclise Part 3 Eclise Part 1(You can't use PlantFood at ALL(Only when the game forces you after that,you can NEVER use it at all)) World 1 Ancient Egypt Day 1-10 World 2 Lost City Day 1-10 World 3 Dark Ages Night 1-10 World 4 Pirate Seas Day 1-10 World 5 Frostbite Caves Day 1-10 World 6 Wild West Day 1-10 World 7 Big Wave Beach Day 1-10 World 8 Jurrassic March Day 1-10 World 9 Far Future Day 1-10 World 10 Neon Mixtape Tour Day 1-10 World 11 Modern Day Day 1-10 "Eclise" Part 2(NOW you can use PlantFood!) Ancient Egypt(World 12) Day 11-18 Lost City(World 13) Day 11-25 Dark Ages(World 14) Night 11-13 Pirate Seas(World 15) Day 11-21 Frostbite Caves(World 16) Day 11-23 Wild West(World 17) Day 11-18 Big Wave Beach(World 18) Day 11-25 Jurrassic March(World 19) Day 11-25 Far Future(World 20) Day 11-23 Neon Mixtape Tour(World 21) Day 11-25 Modern Day Day 11-25 "Eclise" Part 3 Ancient Egypt(World 23) Day 19-25 Lost City(World 24) Day 26-32 Dark Ages(World 25) Night 14-20 Pirate Seas(World 26) Day 22-25 Frostbite Caves(World 27) Day 24-30 Wild West(World 28) Day 19-25 Big Wave Beach(World 29) Day 26-32 Jurrassic March(World 30) Day 26-32 Far Future(World 31) Day 19-25 Neon Mixtape Tour(World 32) Day 26-32 Modern Day(World 33) Day 26-34 You have beaten "Eclise"! Hope you do this... Probably not Forgot to mention you are NOT allowed to use powerups Forgot to ALSO mention that in Zen Garden,you can ONLY GROW Marogolds,nothing else
Not really, badges function like badges. The level up system is the max up hearts. Unlike syicker star, where they only increase your health, the max up hearts in TOK increase your health, increase your attack, and over time allow you to kill certain enemies on the overworld without entering battle
i'm still mad that in another interview they said they are limited to mario characters. there are OTHER mario characters you could use as NPC's from super mario sunshine, galaxy, odyssey, but ill give them the benefit of the doubt that they can't use those characters
I also understand that there are probably legal reasons that the general player base doesn’t see but they could still reuse old paper Mario characters or even make up new memorable characters.
@@randominternetuser5872 because it felt like I had to fight all enemies to get xp and that annoyed me. Not that I didn't enjoyed the games, I just didn't liked to much about fighting enemies over and over to get xp. Now you don't need to fight all enemies if you don't want to.
Paper Mario fan base: We want original characters Nintendo: Ok we will make it so non of the characters are original instead they must be characters already created Paper Mario fan base: that’s not what we wanted Nintendo:We don’t care
I feel like in the battle system, instead of Leveling up and getting stronger like a normal rpg, you "level up" your puzzle skills and quick decision making and it definitely rewards you for it by satisfyingly attacking a row of enemy all at once.
Hear me out, they can't copy the thousand year door every 4 years, so what i feel Tanabe is tryna say is that we need new experiences, and as much as we love the thousand year door, if nintendo keeps saying "here's the thousand year door", then yeah, then we would get bored
im just gonna be honest, i dont think ivce ever used a single healing item due to enemies you fight, ive only ever used it once because OVERWORLD HAZARDS did more damage to me then the actual enemies
Personally origami king is my absolute favorite game of all time, I really like seeing how others think of it (even if they don’t like it). I find others perspectives very interesting and cool!
So true, I like the original worlds (also the music there is the best in the game). Pretty much the worlds you said in the video and some more. Yet I played this one after Spm so that influenced me and I got feeling of disappointment when I played this game, with its good things it still luck many things in gameplay, characters and story. I will say that the music fine in my opinion, its just my taste but I liked Spm music much more. With all of that still good game, yet I dont like the direction that the series going to.
eh I think Origami King's world's are better than Color Splash I do like Color Splash world and there are some that are unique but in my opinion Origami King has more unique world also 15:33 Sticker Star and Color Splash has New Super Mario Bros Worlds not Origami King, and World 1 for Origami King is not lazy because 1. every Paper Mario game and every Mario game starts with a grass level, 2. Origami King's World 1 is unique in my opinion because it's called Picnic Road the grass I think is yellowish-green and it a grassland-mountain, 20:50 Olivia is funny,
I personally thought that the second game was far worse in terms of pacing, especially in the third, fourth and sixth chapters. The only point where I think this game slogged at the pacing was in the beginning, which was acceptable because it was similar to holding a child's hand before they get to school.
Am I the only person in the world that doesn't hate this game despite playing the first 3 titles? I don't see this at all as a failure, I love this game more than Super Paper Mario at least. People judge the battle system for the worst reason when this is finally a different mechanic than just Mario on the left and 2 enemies on the right, I genuinely enjoyed it having to think a bit more plus the bosses were really fun, every one of them had a unique mechanic that kept the ring-style from going stale. Olivia is my favorite traveling partner for Paper Mario, she is adorable and naive to a fault, I can't hate her for being new to a world that she just started to learn about, it makes it more fun than having a know-it-all with you all the way. Yes the game uses some generic world themes as usual(exception being shogun studios), but they all have a unique twist to them that makes them standout more, like the desert having no sun, and a spa in the sky with a jungle and Bowser's Castle having crashed into it. There are other reasons I love this game too, but I can't list them all, some I don't know how to put into words. Keep in mind I've played the TTYD and SPM several times, so don't assume I'm not aware of a few things this game could've taken from its RPG roots.
This game really messes up what it does right, and somehow polishes its lameness to perfection (with an exception of the soundtrack, the music is good and there’s no denying that). I don’t get how they screwed up the battle system in a bunch of ways with its potential. I can’t imagine designing the office supplies the way that the developers did. I hate that world 3 is the extremes of dead where you’re just driving around a desert for hours then going to Shroom City which is amazing but even then they still messed that up because you can’t do much there. Btw something you should’ve mentioned was the final boss. The game legit gives you boots and a hammer right before it, and you don’t even get to use it. It was extremely underwhelming in the gameplay department, and felt much more anti-climactic than it should’ve been. If you could sum this game up in one word, it’s controversy. It really depends on how you value the things that the game does. For me, the rights and wrongs just cancel each other out. But just as I was optimistic for this game, I’ll still be optimistic for the next. This game imo wasn’t bad nor good overall, and I’m hoping that the next will have more going for it.
This game is especially infuriating for if you look in just the right places, every single complaint is catered to in the worst way possible as if the creators of this wanted to rebel but couldn’t. The lack of a deep turn-based system? They have the turn based system and it’s deep, but it’s also deeply repetitive. The lack of party members? You technically have one but it’s only for every single area. They don’t even attack on command, or even do a Miitopia-like event where your automatically-attacking partners learn new skills that may reflect their abilities even though that still wouldn’t solve this problem. You also have Olivia, but she’s vexing either because she is too naive or because she dies because she is a new character. Character depth? You have Bobby, who is lazy but loyal and somehow his sacrifice is deeply moving, but you never get that again. Olly doesn’t count because he is completely genocidal for a stupid reason. The NPCs are at least not just Toads but they still don’t stand out, and the Toads, while relegated to quirky revealings, are still just Toads and not Toads in a believable world. New characters? You get them but it’s all quickly reverted back. The same goes for unique enemies who are undone by the death of Stapler. A talking silly Bowser? You get him but only in the beginning and the end. Depending on the person, some may count the fact he doesn’t do much as a flaw. Unique environments? You do get them, but they are merely variants of the same eight worlds without any good style. Snif City, the most unique, is naturally reverted given Hole Puncher possessed all the Toads by punching out their faces. The next most unique, Shanghai-Spa, has a distinctly Jungle area. At least they do mix it up nicely. Memorable bosses? Yes, they are memorable, but that is only because each bosses has a one-note personality (if part of a Legion of Stationary) and a unique gimmick that somehow 10 bosses do not seem to make stale. It does not make up for anything else, and they’re still gone per the “no new characters except from mainline Mario” rule. Different powers as for customizability? You have jumps and hammers, the only two reliable things. Since both work nicely, all other options will almost never be used except deliberately. The Vellumentals are unique summons but they are all part of the puzzles and you’re going to be using the Earth Vellumental the most. And while you can do different things each turn you are roughly going to be performing the same actions overall. (for example, the Rubber Band boss you will always be looking to stretch it really far with the 1000-fold hands each turn then fling it far with the last hit.) Even the badges only affect how you line up the characters or is a mere HP boost or timer boost. It does not meaningfully change you options in battle. Collectibles? Yes, but they are the Toads so you still have problems. Visuals? As always, they are neat, and this time dramatic, but that style is always traumatic for many old-time fans. New situations? Yes, but none that are permanent or imposing. The scary trees turn out to just sing. Snif City is undone. The ocean is a downgraded Wind Walker’s first half. The final castle is imposing but is necessarily temporary. The amusement park isn’t amusing when you go back. The spa has neat baths but after those events they feel like flavor. Background lore? It’s there, but it’s just one story related to the ancient Captain. Different designed NPCs, party members, and enemies? Bobby only lacks a fuse (but at least it’s well-executed). The ancient Captain and the Archaeologist Toad are the exceptions that prove the rule and harken to previous usages to well-dressed NPCs (the previous archaeological NPCs and the reference to previous games’ usage of it). Olivia and the enemies are differently designed but they’re different, and your main enemies are just flavored standard enemies (though the bosses are all unique). They give you everything in just the worst way. That is why this game is so contentious. This is the most well-polished turd and the most well-sculpted turd, it would be art if it were not clear it were a turd.
There is unfortunately so much to talk about. What is good? What is bad? Is the literal version of turn-based gameplay a neat optimization minipuzzle or a slog? And if you enjoy the battle system, do you like only the bosses or the system in its entirety? Are the characterizations clever and memorable or the same wacky characters? How sad (meaning frustrating) is it that all the unique characters die given that an interview reveals that a rule to never use anything but mainline characters is enforced? Is Snif City a unique innovation or just a temporary gimmick given it goes away when Hole Puncher does? Is Bobby a nice subversion of “the unique Bob-omb character” that has depth and uses its subtle design to convey that or just a reminder of how closely all Paper Mario games hew to counterproductive standards? Finally, is it the best of the worst (meaning it’s lumped with Sticker Star), worst of the best (lumped with the true RPGs and possibly Super Paper Mario), unique and one of the best (meaning comparable to TTYD and 64, or if you pick up on the fact that the story is one of its incontestable strengths Super Paper Mario), or part of some other arbitrary ranking since there are 6! types of Paper Mario fans, 7! if you lump in Bug Fables?
In the Mario and Luigi games it said the number of damage u did and the enemies didn’t have health bars…and Super Paper Mario had that too I guess but u can scan them BUT they don’t have health bars so nitpick
Exactly, and honestly I feel like some of the challenge in the battles is experimenting with the different degrees of weaponry you equip along the way to discover what weapon can kill which enemy on your own instead of just having the life bar give it away
I love this game a lot. But I hate when people say this is the darkest paper Mario game. HAVE THEY PLAYED SUPER AT ALL. But those interviews make me cringe so hard
I think they say that it's the darkest because of all of the body horror used in the game, it makes sense when putting yourself in the perspectives of these people in paper.
The best way to enjoy Origami King, do what I did. It’s my first Paper Mario game. If you’ve played the original and Thousand year door, well that sucks, you probably hate this installment.
I love this game, but I never played a Paper Mario game so idk if it's really good Edit: When you say it's not hard, are you just joking? No? I'm the only one bad at games then? Oh. Ok.
I feel like people are a little unreasonable with Paper Mario. It's okay for games to change, and I don't mind the new direction. ....as long as there's a good reason to actually play. I only played Sticker Star, and I rarely got into battles unless it was a new foe or I got a cool new sticker to play with.
Agree. SPM was my first one. I'd be fine in particular with the gameplay of this game if the progression of it felt like actual progression, like in game mechanics. The main gameplay doesn't really change or become more difficult in a natural way, the bosses are often divorced from the main mechanics, and also vary widely in difficulty.
There exist such a thing as a bad change though. And the direction the new Paper Mario takes is a bad change. They change it to the point it does not resemble the first three Paper Mario games anymore. Not to mention they also restricted the creativity of original characters and world-building in the modern Paper Mario games. How is that a good change? And not to mention that the modern Paper Mario games screwed up the purpose by saying that it takes place in the paper world, when Paper Mario 64, TTYD, and SPM made it clear that it takes place in the actual main Mario universe, just that the story is told through a storybook. It's not about that the argument is change, it's mainly about how Paper Mario got screwed up these days and how it's forgotten what the original games's purpose is supposed to be. It's supposed to be Mario Story, not Paper Mario.
This comment should get pinned, this is one of best descriptions for the series' change that I've seen, I was originally called Mario Story and then renamed to Paper Mario. I don't think people would mind if it was to be a Paper universe to 3D Mario if it kept its story-telling like it originally intended.
29:12 You… Probably have the wrong clips, what you showed shows an entirely different emphasis than what you said. Every one of those clips focused an unique characteristics, not partners! I have to say again it feels like you’re taking the worst interpretation of all of this.
the wait was worth it
oh my god my comment got pinned
Noice
Neat dude
Nice
"Actually good?"
*Title: Executive greed*
Yeah, Something ain't matching up
Did you even watch the video?
wow that was a great intro, I wonder who did it
Good question, I’ll look into it.
So it turns out it was some guy named Morel, dunno if you’ve heard of him.
@@derphunk5338 no idea, but I think he has a very great channel
Me
ikr who did it
Honestly, this is the most underrated channel I've seen. Such a long and well thought out video goes largely unnoticed. Keep up the good work and this is only the beginning! :)
In Color Splash Bowser can talk but he doesn’t talk a lot…also I love the Origami King
your profile picture.... why....
Two things
1: should they make a remake of the first three paper Mario games/ the three most popular
Like 3D all stars
2: the quality of this channel is way to good to just have 10 k subs
I mean making remakes kinda killed the mario & luigi franchise
@@Fierywell They were dying _before_ the remakes.
That's why they tried using the remakes as a way to pull
themselves out of the hole they were falling into.
I mean, what better way to build up some cash than simply re-using
your newest game engine to remake some of your older, popular games?
In theory, you should be able to do that much quicker/easier than a completely new one.
They were just stuck with unfortunate timing, since by the time they released
even the 1st remake, the Switch had already been out for several months.
No one really wanted to look at the 3DS anymore by that point,
so that naturally crippled the potential sales on its own.
@@King_Luigi oop fair points there, yeah I guess I was pretty wrong lol (paper jam was pretty meh though)
@@King_Luigi Not to mention how stiff the Turn-based RPG competition was on the 3DS by then.
You have one of the best games of all time in SMT: Devil Survivor. And then like 5 other highly rated SMT games. Etrian Odyssey, Dragon Quest, Tales, etc. Why would I ever pick up a turn-based Nintendo game at that point?
Honestly, I wish they just brought games like earthbound, paper Mario, Pikmin, etc on switch through a game pass like system because people like me never played them so it’d be kinda cool and also 4 ppl wanting to replay them but on the switch
I think if they combine the best elements of TTYD and Origami King, they'd have the perfect Paper Mario game.
So what, the gameplay of origami king and the world building/characters/story of ttyd? I honestly don’t see what you can take from this game that ttyd didn’t just do but better.
I don't think that works. I mean, it's like combining cake, spaghetti, and pizza. All are really good, but putting them together makes something called "shit"
@@scotterboi9 a mistake, if you will
I was genuinely scared for this one, this looked awkwardly similar to color splash, I played a bit of origami king and actually, it's good, and I adore the music and the battle system, but keep in mind it isn't perfect, it's just a-okay!
:I
16:22 why does this sound like something Scott the Woz would say
Yes
13:37
Danerade: says he's only going to show footage of the first 5 chapters
Also Danerade: shows the second to last boss that takes place in the 6th chapter immediately before the final boss
I feel like even though origami king has some generic worlds, they really make those generic worlds unique one way or another. The woods section had the talking trees, the dessert section had the Vegas town and the lack of sunlight, the water area was literally wind waker, and the sky world had an awesome thing going on with bowsers castle, pretty much the darkest most villainous area in all of mario, crashing into this heaven like spa, meant to renew your mind and body. Also as a side note, literally every single paper mario game since the first one had a generic grassland as the first chapter area. Its basically a staple in the series at this point, just like the gameshows
18:15
For some reason the tone looks like Scott and this is also something Scott would say
I think a super paper Mario approach where there’s no turn based combat you just fight the enemies in the over world would be the best approach sure it’s not the best corse of action but if they keep messing up the battles it would probably be best to just get rid of it and focus on the games strengths of the levels themselves
I honestly disagree because the original charm of the battles was using Mario and your partners in the right way to beat the enemies, if it was just over world battles then that part of the game would be lost.
@@James-sm7kn I’m not denying that the originals are good cause they are its just I’ve lost faith in modern paper Mario being able to make a decent rpg game with the half and half method they got going is just not working for me oragami kong and color splash the best parts in the game had nothing to do with battles it was the levels/areas themselves so if they can’t do an rpg right why bother and just rebrand it as an action platformer where the game can play to there strengths
@@zegop5736 and what I am saying in terms of battles I think they are slightly going in the right direction I would take origami king battles over what the 3rd paper Mario game had going for it.
I'd be perfectly fine with this. If the developers want to make an action-adventure game, then make a fucking action-adventure game. Why do they continue to cling on to RPG elements like turn-based combat if they don't want to make an RPG? I'll never understand the identity crisis that the newer Paper Mario games have.
Bowser did talk in Color Splash, Sir
He did, that's why I loved color splash way more than sticker star cause he didn't talk once in that game.
Nobody ever wants to remember the good stuff from Color Splash 😭
@@lazilyymade To be fair, it's kinda difficult to "remember"
something when so few people _actually_ experienced it.
@@King_Luigi it really is a tragedy because color splash really does deserve more love. I honestly wish it would get ported to the switch
The black possessed paint talk, not Bowser himself.
8:34 I get your salt about the easier gameplay objects, but like mind you I was nine when I picked up my first Paper Mario game because of how kiddy and cute it looked. Nine year old me would've been fucked trying to solve puzzles in this game without a hand, and it's not like they can't be turned off.
As a paper mario game, not very good. As a game, one of the best on the switch, definitely my top 10
Very stark contrast 😂
Are you meaning that switch games are really bad or Paper Mario are really good? Note: this was the first paper mario I had (but I played Super Paper Mario) I loved it. I want to play the thousand year door now.
@@Martin-fb9pb I meant that as it didnt really stay true to the series, but it was still an awesome game.
Well I mean, first 2 paper mario games were the turn based ones, spm was the platformer, and the next 2 were turn based but you have use cards/stickers, they're all different but when the devs think they can push an idea further they make another before changing it up again, I do get what you mean though.
Best out of the Modern series
This is my favorite game but there is a mechanic that make the bosses way too easy (except scissors) and that system is cheering it gives you lots of hp just for 999 coins
I think this game is a solid 7-7.5/10. Not a masterpiece as you said, and not sticker 3. This game was super fun and charming. Definitely being hated for the wrong reasons.
Origami King is basically Sticker Star 3.
I feel that if they throw out the stupid rule of having no original Mario characters then paper Mario will benefit from it. Some of the best Mario characters were not toads like Francis, magus con grapple, Vivian, goombella, bobery, count blek, dooplis. They were diverse and added depth and works building to Mario’s world. What ever happened to that? Having an antagonist that’s not bowser and having some enemies that act as partners is a step in the right direction. By the way if you like classic Paper mario then look at bug fables.
Thise channels is getting more professional, good job!
8:53 guess what you can do for a message at the end of the game
Hey I have a idea:You know Eclise Right?
Well what about if you do "Eclise"But with the levels of the REGULAR PVZ 2 levels
You basically play 10 Levels of each world and go in the same other the worlds are played in the PVZ 2 Eclise...Even Include PVZ2 Modern Day...
Then "Eclise" Part 2 Starts in Ancient Egypt
Play the levels like this for Eclise Part 3
Eclise Part 1(You can't use PlantFood at ALL(Only when the game forces you after that,you can NEVER use it at all))
World 1 Ancient Egypt
Day 1-10
World 2 Lost City
Day 1-10
World 3 Dark Ages
Night 1-10
World 4 Pirate Seas
Day 1-10
World 5 Frostbite Caves
Day 1-10
World 6 Wild West
Day 1-10
World 7 Big Wave Beach
Day 1-10
World 8 Jurrassic March
Day 1-10
World 9 Far Future
Day 1-10
World 10 Neon Mixtape Tour
Day 1-10
World 11 Modern Day
Day 1-10
"Eclise" Part 2(NOW you can use PlantFood!)
Ancient Egypt(World 12)
Day 11-18
Lost City(World 13)
Day 11-25
Dark Ages(World 14)
Night 11-13
Pirate Seas(World 15)
Day 11-21
Frostbite Caves(World 16)
Day 11-23
Wild West(World 17)
Day 11-18
Big Wave Beach(World 18)
Day 11-25
Jurrassic March(World 19)
Day 11-25
Far Future(World 20)
Day 11-23
Neon Mixtape Tour(World 21)
Day 11-25
Modern Day
Day 11-25
"Eclise" Part 3
Ancient Egypt(World 23)
Day 19-25
Lost City(World 24)
Day 26-32
Dark Ages(World 25)
Night 14-20
Pirate Seas(World 26)
Day 22-25
Frostbite Caves(World 27)
Day 24-30
Wild West(World 28)
Day 19-25
Big Wave Beach(World 29)
Day 26-32
Jurrassic March(World 30)
Day 26-32
Far Future(World 31)
Day 19-25
Neon Mixtape Tour(World 32)
Day 26-32
Modern Day(World 33)
Day 26-34
You have beaten "Eclise"!
Hope you do this...
Probably not
Forgot to mention you are NOT allowed to use powerups
Forgot to ALSO mention that in Zen Garden,you can ONLY GROW Marogolds,nothing else
The badge system is sort of a level-up system
@YÜGEEPIE38 but the easiest way to get coins is via battling and the overworld coins are limited. Sooo
DashingIb yea I agree idk what the other person means. Battling gives waaay more coins than not battling
Yeah honestly the game doesn’t rlly need a level up system because coins are a fine enough reward.
Not really, badges function like badges. The level up system is the max up hearts. Unlike syicker star, where they only increase your health, the max up hearts in TOK increase your health, increase your attack, and over time allow you to kill certain enemies on the overworld without entering battle
@@chickennoodlegamer915 that id true yes. But the accessories work more like a level up system because you "exchange something for better stats"
Rlly like ur reviews danerade. Keep up the good work.
i'm still mad that in another interview they said they are limited to mario characters. there are OTHER mario characters you could use as NPC's from super mario sunshine, galaxy, odyssey, but ill give them the benefit of the doubt that they can't use those characters
I also understand that there are probably legal reasons that the general player base doesn’t see but they could still reuse old paper Mario characters or even make up new memorable characters.
4:04 Mario and his army
0:49 bruh we have the same carpet
To be honest, I'm glad they take off the xp thing.
@Jovanni Ramsey Well then, eat me!! EAT ME AS YOU CAN!!! I'm not sorry!!!
Why? I would like to understand why you disliked the exp system?
@@randominternetuser5872 because it felt like I had to fight all enemies to get xp and that annoyed me. Not that I didn't enjoyed the games, I just didn't liked to much about fighting enemies over and over to get xp. Now you don't need to fight all enemies if you don't want to.
@@rocbenaa1963 but now, without the exp, What's the point of fighting other than to waste your time?
Chronicle Zombie to get coins to buy more badges and weapons. Battling is the easiest way to get coins not just finding them around the world btw
Danerade should make a video on Psychonauts
I just want super paper mario virtual console
your jokes remind me a lot of scott the woz, very nice.
That's what I was thinking
Paper Mario fan base: We want original characters
Nintendo: Ok we will make it so non of the characters are original instead they must be characters already created
Paper Mario fan base: that’s not what we wanted
Nintendo:We don’t care
Great video as always!
I have lost all hope in ever seeing Paper Mario return to form. Might as well play Bug Fables instead.
I feel like in the battle system, instead of Leveling up and getting stronger like a normal rpg, you "level up" your puzzle skills and quick decision making and it definitely rewards you for it by satisfyingly attacking a row of enemy all at once.
Great video! But I would disagree that the middle of the game dragged on, those were some of my favorite parts (Especially the groovy hole puncher)
It feels like everyone enjoys different parts of the game, like there isn't really a part of TOK most can agree drags on
@@enderallygolem yeah it has something for everyone i guess
danerade: WOW, 19 and 12 are SOOO big
Hear me out, they can't copy the thousand year door every 4 years, so what i feel Tanabe is tryna say is that we need new experiences, and as much as we love the thousand year door, if nintendo keeps saying "here's the thousand year door", then yeah, then we would get bored
I want a soup review
I spent way to much time playing this game danerade is poaggers btw
im just gonna be honest, i dont think ivce ever used a single healing item due to enemies you fight, ive only ever used it once because OVERWORLD HAZARDS did more damage to me then the actual enemies
Theres some stuff that's taken out of context
Great video! I can definitely see you becoming a big youtuber in the future!
Origami king and color splash realky need more love
I'm hyped for this but I can't join
So the real enemy in this game is Nintendo themselves-
They just hate us dont they
Personally origami king is my absolute favorite game of all time, I really like seeing how others think of it (even if they don’t like it). I find others perspectives very interesting and cool!
Origami king was realised awhile ago now but I remember a few things one was bowser at the start of the game just thinking he’s god
lemon ball candy
i think i heard the theme park was based on an actual theme park in japan.
lol ur the 69th comment
@@someonerandom7398 NiCe
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WILL I SURVIVE THE WAIT
OMG AAAAAAAAAA
I MISSED IT BECAUSE I WAS OUT DAAAARN
So true, I like the original worlds (also the music there is the best in the game). Pretty much the worlds you said in the video and some more. Yet I played this one after Spm so that influenced me and I got feeling of disappointment when I played this game, with its good things it still luck many things in gameplay, characters and story. I will say that the music fine in my opinion, its just my taste but I liked Spm music much more. With all of that still good game, yet I dont like the direction that the series going to.
You need more views.
Sticker star was my first paper Mario game
eh I think Origami King's world's are better than Color Splash I do like Color Splash world and there are some that are unique but in my opinion Origami King has more unique world also 15:33 Sticker Star and Color Splash has New Super Mario Bros Worlds not Origami King, and World 1 for Origami King is not lazy because 1. every Paper Mario game and every Mario game starts with a grass level, 2. Origami King's World 1 is unique in my opinion because it's called Picnic Road the grass I think is yellowish-green and it a grassland-mountain, 20:50 Olivia is funny,
27:00 You didn’t link the first quote. Why should I trust you?
Amen. This game was fun. That is the only thing that mattered to me.
I personally thought that the second game was far worse in terms of pacing, especially in the third, fourth and sixth chapters. The only point where I think this game slogged at the pacing was in the beginning, which was acceptable because it was similar to holding a child's hand before they get to school.
Am I the only person in the world that doesn't hate this game despite playing the first 3 titles? I don't see this at all as a failure, I love this game more than Super Paper Mario at least. People judge the battle system for the worst reason when this is finally a different mechanic than just Mario on the left and 2 enemies on the right, I genuinely enjoyed it having to think a bit more plus the bosses were really fun, every one of them had a unique mechanic that kept the ring-style from going stale. Olivia is my favorite traveling partner for Paper Mario, she is adorable and naive to a fault, I can't hate her for being new to a world that she just started to learn about, it makes it more fun than having a know-it-all with you all the way. Yes the game uses some generic world themes as usual(exception being shogun studios), but they all have a unique twist to them that makes them standout more, like the desert having no sun, and a spa in the sky with a jungle and Bowser's Castle having crashed into it. There are other reasons I love this game too, but I can't list them all, some I don't know how to put into words. Keep in mind I've played the TTYD and SPM several times, so don't assume I'm not aware of a few things this game could've taken from its RPG roots.
This game really messes up what it does right, and somehow polishes its lameness to perfection (with an exception of the soundtrack, the music is good and there’s no denying that). I don’t get how they screwed up the battle system in a bunch of ways with its potential. I can’t imagine designing the office supplies the way that the developers did. I hate that world 3 is the extremes of dead where you’re just driving around a desert for hours then going to Shroom City which is amazing but even then they still messed that up because you can’t do much there.
Btw something you should’ve mentioned was the final boss. The game legit gives you boots and a hammer right before it, and you don’t even get to use it. It was extremely underwhelming in the gameplay department, and felt much more anti-climactic than it should’ve been.
If you could sum this game up in one word, it’s controversy. It really depends on how you value the things that the game does. For me, the rights and wrongs just cancel each other out. But just as I was optimistic for this game, I’ll still be optimistic for the next. This game imo wasn’t bad nor good overall, and I’m hoping that the next will have more going for it.
This game is especially infuriating for if you look in just the right places, every single complaint is catered to in the worst way possible as if the creators of this wanted to rebel but couldn’t.
The lack of a deep turn-based system? They have the turn based system and it’s deep, but it’s also deeply repetitive.
The lack of party members? You technically have one but it’s only for every single area. They don’t even attack on command, or even do a Miitopia-like event where your automatically-attacking partners learn new skills that may reflect their abilities even though that still wouldn’t solve this problem. You also have Olivia, but she’s vexing either because she is too naive or because she dies because she is a new character.
Character depth? You have Bobby, who is lazy but loyal and somehow his sacrifice is deeply moving, but you never get that again. Olly doesn’t count because he is completely genocidal for a stupid reason. The NPCs are at least not just Toads but they still don’t stand out, and the Toads, while relegated to quirky revealings, are still just Toads and not Toads in a believable world.
New characters? You get them but it’s all quickly reverted back. The same goes for unique enemies who are undone by the death of Stapler.
A talking silly Bowser? You get him but only in the beginning and the end. Depending on the person, some may count the fact he doesn’t do much as a flaw.
Unique environments? You do get them, but they are merely variants of the same eight worlds without any good style. Snif City, the most unique, is naturally reverted given Hole Puncher possessed all the Toads by punching out their faces. The next most unique, Shanghai-Spa, has a distinctly Jungle area. At least they do mix it up nicely.
Memorable bosses? Yes, they are memorable, but that is only because each bosses has a one-note personality (if part of a Legion of Stationary) and a unique gimmick that somehow 10 bosses do not seem to make stale. It does not make up for anything else, and they’re still gone per the “no new characters except from mainline Mario” rule.
Different powers as for customizability? You have jumps and hammers, the only two reliable things. Since both work nicely, all other options will almost never be used except deliberately. The Vellumentals are unique summons but they are all part of the puzzles and you’re going to be using the Earth Vellumental the most. And while you can do different things each turn you are roughly going to be performing the same actions overall. (for example, the Rubber Band boss you will always be looking to stretch it really far with the 1000-fold hands each turn then fling it far with the last hit.) Even the badges only affect how you line up the characters or is a mere HP boost or timer boost. It does not meaningfully change you options in battle.
Collectibles? Yes, but they are the Toads so you still have problems.
Visuals? As always, they are neat, and this time dramatic, but that style is always traumatic for many old-time fans.
New situations? Yes, but none that are permanent or imposing. The scary trees turn out to just sing. Snif City is undone. The ocean is a downgraded Wind Walker’s first half. The final castle is imposing but is necessarily temporary. The amusement park isn’t amusing when you go back. The spa has neat baths but after those events they feel like flavor.
Background lore? It’s there, but it’s just one story related to the ancient Captain.
Different designed NPCs, party members, and enemies? Bobby only lacks a fuse (but at least it’s well-executed). The ancient Captain and the Archaeologist Toad are the exceptions that prove the rule and harken to previous usages to well-dressed NPCs (the previous archaeological NPCs and the reference to previous games’ usage of it). Olivia and the enemies are differently designed but they’re different, and your main enemies are just flavored standard enemies (though the bosses are all unique).
They give you everything in just the worst way. That is why this game is so contentious. This is the most well-polished turd and the most well-sculpted turd, it would be art if it were not clear it were a turd.
So basically like the first three games.
21:37 *She's the one boys, that's a JoJo character if I've ever seen one*
Hi, can you make a video about how angry birds was ruined?
Who watched the live stream
I remember you
Me
8:09 were did the I don't like were this going, STOP, STOP come form.
I personally like sticker star, most likely because it was my first paper mario game (I am 14)
You got off the song at the beat drop :(
It's not that long. Arlo talked about it for the equivalent of a full length movie.
There is unfortunately so much to talk about. What is good? What is bad? Is the literal version of turn-based gameplay a neat optimization minipuzzle or a slog? And if you enjoy the battle system, do you like only the bosses or the system in its entirety? Are the characterizations clever and memorable or the same wacky characters? How sad (meaning frustrating) is it that all the unique characters die given that an interview reveals that a rule to never use anything but mainline characters is enforced? Is Snif City a unique innovation or just a temporary gimmick given it goes away when Hole Puncher does? Is Bobby a nice subversion of “the unique Bob-omb character” that has depth and uses its subtle design to convey that or just a reminder of how closely all Paper Mario games hew to counterproductive standards? Finally, is it the best of the worst (meaning it’s lumped with Sticker Star), worst of the best (lumped with the true RPGs and possibly Super Paper Mario), unique and one of the best (meaning comparable to TTYD and 64, or if you pick up on the fact that the story is one of its incontestable strengths Super Paper Mario), or part of some other arbitrary ranking since there are 6! types of Paper Mario fans, 7! if you lump in Bug Fables?
And those are just the obvious topics. The Origami King is so contentious that every single part can be nitpicked and made into an argument.
@@iantaakalla8180 Wow! Thanks for the replies. I read every single word!
It's so nice that you gave my comment so much attention! =D
Not the paper Mario game we wanted, but a good game nonetheless.
I guess
In the Mario and Luigi games it said the number of damage u did and the enemies didn’t have health bars…and Super Paper Mario had that too I guess but u can scan them BUT they don’t have health bars so nitpick
Exactly, and honestly I feel like some of the challenge in the battles is experimenting with the different degrees of weaponry you equip along the way to discover what weapon can kill which enemy on your own instead of just having the life bar give it away
I see somebody has been watching ZackScott.
Some people don’t like ttyd I’m not one of them but still it’s surprising
I love this game a lot. But I hate when people say this is the darkest paper Mario game. HAVE THEY PLAYED SUPER AT ALL. But those interviews make me cringe so hard
I think they say that it's the darkest because of all of the body horror used in the game, it makes sense when putting yourself in the perspectives of these people in paper.
9:06 ok listen I’m suck
15:48 i don't think thats japan
25:49 how is he “neglecting” criticism in this quote? This snippet ain’t even the whole interview!
"I enjoyed this game" *spends 90% of the video complaining about it* Sure.
Will you notice me
I would get it IF it wasnt easy as hell.
Not my favorite one sticker star is definitely still my favorite but i did enjoy the game a lot
Or they can make a hard mode for more experienced players
25:35 why did you seemingly take the worst out of these quotes? It felt like you looked at the interpretations with the most malice and went with it.
Not bad
The best way to enjoy Origami King, do what I did. It’s my first Paper Mario game. If you’ve played the original and Thousand year door, well that sucks, you probably hate this installment.
I love this game, but I never played a Paper Mario game so idk if it's really good
Edit: When you say it's not hard, are you just joking? No? I'm the only one bad at games then? Oh. Ok.
Why can't they just make more games like the first two for fucks sake
I feel like people are a little unreasonable with Paper Mario. It's okay for games to change, and I don't mind the new direction.
....as long as there's a good reason to actually play. I only played Sticker Star, and I rarely got into battles unless it was a new foe or I got a cool new sticker to play with.
Agree. SPM was my first one. I'd be fine in particular with the gameplay of this game if the progression of it felt like actual progression, like in game mechanics. The main gameplay doesn't really change or become more difficult in a natural way, the bosses are often divorced from the main mechanics, and also vary widely in difficulty.
There exist such a thing as a bad change though. And the direction the new Paper Mario takes is a bad change. They change it to the point it does not resemble the first three Paper Mario games anymore. Not to mention they also restricted the creativity of original characters and world-building in the modern Paper Mario games. How is that a good change? And not to mention that the modern Paper Mario games screwed up the purpose by saying that it takes place in the paper world, when Paper Mario 64, TTYD, and SPM made it clear that it takes place in the actual main Mario universe, just that the story is told through a storybook. It's not about that the argument is change, it's mainly about how Paper Mario got screwed up these days and how it's forgotten what the original games's purpose is supposed to be. It's supposed to be Mario Story, not Paper Mario.
This comment should get pinned, this is one of best descriptions for the series' change that I've seen, I was originally called Mario Story and then renamed to Paper Mario. I don't think people would mind if it was to be a Paper universe to 3D Mario if it kept its story-telling like it originally intended.
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the more I watch this video the more I realize danerade is just ripping off Scott the woz's tone and comedy and the more it annoys me
29:12 You… Probably have the wrong clips, what you showed shows an entirely different emphasis than what you said. Every one of those clips focused an unique characteristics, not partners! I have to say again it feels like you’re taking the worst interpretation of all of this.
17:29 damn that looks like high quality steak with how much intermusclaur fat it seems to have
No wonder why Larry gives you the paint Star. His meal must have been really legendary and he knows his meat.
fucking hell how much zackscottgames do you watch?
wazzup
Worst of all.
I am the person that likes ALL the paper mario games, from RPG to platformer to STICKER to PUZZLE
Lol
The world DID end 3:38