@@KirbyStarAnimation yeah fair but I think we all know which one is the better villain overall, I do think jinx vs the human world was rushed abit they could of made it a 2 part episode like kinda season 1 the Villians in this show could of been so much better in every way, Its like they wanted to make something worse than change your mind from SU which is bad episode depending on your perspective
@@TheTakenGamer I agree that bill is a better villain. And to be fair they probably wanted to do more with her but the show only having 2 seasons instead of its intended 3 so they probably had planned to have maybe one more part of an episode to lead up to the intended season finale.
So agreed! Jinx barely did anything! When I watched the episode, I noted that Jinx was the Chairman, and I thought she was going to do something like a curse at one point... She didn't. She didn't really do anything. She had all that power and she never used it! In general, I always thought Scratch being the chairman was more like a crutch for the season than something actually important to the plot, as it just felt like something to be "used" in a sense rather than something that would actually be expanded upon or developed. Sigh. I didn't even realize how little she appeared, lol
All Jinx wanted to do was take over the human world but like, why? She already rules the entire afterlife, all the people she would conquer by taking over the human world she would conquer any way when they just die. The only reason she wanted to take over the human world was because she can I guess💀. It just feels like the writers did it as a lazy way to raise the stakes
@@theghostwiththemost789 Oh yeah, I never really considered that Jinx doesn’t have the most solid reason to take it over. I just saw it as “more power” or something. Step 1: conquer the ghost world Step 2: conquer the human world Step 3: ??? Step 4: profit
@@theghostwiththemost789She literally said it’s because she wanted to do something no chairman or ghost had done before since she wanted to make a big impression.
@@CHECommonHumanErrorShe destroys almost the entire ghost world, makes a new flow of failed phantoms where almost every ghost was trapped and implied tortured, drains Molly’s joy to feed her son goblins to take over the living world, uses transmutation and reality warping powers from the robe that are similar to Molly’s joy powers but in reverse since she made everything more miserable in the living world instead of happier in the ghost world. What do you mean she didn’t do anything.
@@KirbyStarAnimation When she gets to the human world, she just stands by and lets the sobgoblins do her work. Then when they try to stop her, she again stands by and lets the sobgoblins defend her. After they’re defeated, she‘s basically disabled.
Total agreement, buddy. The writers barely gave Jinx and the Chens any screen time even though they were supposed to be the main threats of this season. And we still know literally nothing about the Chairman! He never talked and we never explored his past. All in all, Season 2 felt like it had too many filler episodes, instead of ones that moved the plot along. 👻
Definitely. People say “the story isn’t what the show is about. It’s an episodic comedy” and to that I say, WHY IS THE STORY STUFF IN THE SHOW THEN! I think the show is really great when it’s being a fun episodic comedy, but I think it’s fails in almost every one of its story beats, not just the villains. I’m planning on making a follow up video where I talk about how the show fails at story in general
@@theghostwiththemost789The three story arcs were the chens, jinx, and scratch’s past plot. The show had 14 episodes dedicated to its story arcs with 4 of them being full length episodes. There are 38 episodes in the season so that’s a bit over 1 third dedicated to the story arcs. There were 3 dedicated to jinx but she was already set up in season 1 and had a full length episode dedicated to her story. 4 dedicated to scratch’s past with the last one being the finale and a full length episode. And 7 technically 8 dedicated to the chens plot with 2 full length episodes dedicated to it. As an episodic show having over a third of your episodes and all your full length ones dedicated to your story arcs is pretty impressive. Compare this to big city greens for example a show l love but the main plot was the chip plot and by chipocalypse now chip had appeared only 6 times in half length episodes over the span of 2 seasons. Now he’s brought back and they’ve had one episode about him so far and even though I think he’s a great villain it shows the ghost and Molly McGee could do a lot worse with its story arcs. The show doesn’t have filler since it’s a mainly episodic one with an overarching story like regular show for example. That doesn’t mean regular show had only filler for 6 seasons. The chairman in season 1 was just a means to an end of ghosts being forced to cause misery and the reason he wasn’t a big factor is the fact the actual main plot was molly enhappyfying Brighton which lead to the finale where Molly has to save scratch. The finale of this season was a personal and more heartfelt story rather than a action packed defeat the villain one since that’s not what the show was about but that didn’t mean it couldn’t have villains. Villains aren’t always the one driving the main conflict and usually their defeat is the means to an end but that doesn’t mean all the problems are solved by beating the bad guy which this show showed perfectly in the finale.
@@theghostwiththemost789 Episodic show can have story elements here and there and still be episodic. And even then I would still consider the The Ghost and Molly McGee doing a good job with its story elements despite a few flaws. Plus what people don't notice was that TGAMM team had to struggle with the fact that the show was already cancelled by Disney during the 1st season according to one of the creators. They were fighting a not winnable battle and at least tried to tell the story they wanted and for what it's worth, I feel they succeeded in that regard.
I see the ghost council as being incredibly smart humans who knew a lot about ruling and getting stuff done so the chairman hired them and even though they loved the work they were also terrified of him. They became so dependent on him since they didn’t have much time just relaxing as a ghost and human so they felt like they needed a leader.
10:34 To be fair she had to take it off because of how itchy is was and she grabbed it the human world so it probably didn’t work the same as if she got it in the ghost world.
@@theghostwiththemost789Chip whistler, the core, warmonga and warmongo, and Morlak all didn’t have much or in the last two’s case any before their final confrontation and in at least chip and morlaks case were great villains. Bill cipher who jinx is oddly similar to in how they set them up with being in the penultimate episode before the finale of the first season where they worked for the main antagonist of the first one and then had two major appearances in the second season where they are the main antagonist is an amazing villain didn’t even much of an appearance before weirdmaggedon since he only had two episodes where he played a major role before that and he was the main antagonist of a serialized show. Even emperor belos who was another great villain only had one major appearance in season 1 and in season 2 still didn’t have much with only elsewhere and else when and hollow mind having him being very important in at least his amount of dialogue and screen time before king’s tide and in elsewhere and else when he wasn’t even in his villain phase yet. Even in thanks to them he was not talking until the last 10-15 minutes where even then during the last 5-7 he wasn’t there and it was mainly build up for the majority of the episode, in for the future he barely appears for at max 4-5 minutes, and in watching in dreaming it’s the final battle against him where he gets an extremely satisfying death.
I have to strongly disagree. Jinx felt like she was meant to be a petty villain. And IMO it works. Nit wvery villain meeds to be Darcy or Belos to be great. In ny eyes Jinx works as a villain but kinda like why people like Doofenshmirtz as a petty villain. Also yes it is a hot take. The songs in TGAMM SLAP.
I’m fine with a petty villain. My problem is that Jinx is super under developed. Unlike Darcy, Belos or Doof, we know almost nothing about her. The Chairman has the same problem. My problem isn’t that she’s petty, it’s that we literally know nothing about her. We don’t know any of her motives for anything she does besides the fact that she liked the old chairman for a reason that is never explained. Even if we disagree, thank you for watching the video :3
@@theghostwiththemost789Jinx is just a ex joy hunter who was a big old chairman fan. Darcy only had 4 episodes of appearing before her 5th episode where she gets defeated and even then in all of them she except her last one she barely appears.
@@theghostwiththemost789Bill’s backstory was he destroyed his dimension because he was bored and wanted to rule the multiverse in order to party. That was his motive and backstory. The stuff between him and ford wasn’t a backstory it was him tricking ford to letting him enter the 3rd dimension.
7:45 See, I have this little headcanon theory that the true villain was Molly all along. Aside from Andrea who's being the local bitch, she's the perturbing element. Molly always goes out of her way to force people to do things. Except for Libby, everyone was doing okay in their lives before Molly appeared, and with or without Scratch's help, she would have shoved her "happy mood" down everyone's throat anyway. I mean, you mentioned it : she killed an entity and didn't feel bad about it, simply because said entity was doing and made others doing the opposite of what she likes. And have you seen her mad goblin energy whenever she's got an idea ? Or when something doesn't go her way ? She's a bully with puppy and flowers theme, wearing multicolored clothes and always smiling. Always assetive, rarely listening, always forgiven because she's the one who actively participated in Brighton's enhancement, but also always the source of some questionable roll of events. Toxic positivity at its finest. Kind enough to be loved, Too raw to be able to love. Oh, and I forgot to mention that the Chairman that Molly atomized, he was the guardian of the balance and segregation between the world of the living and the dead : he jailed those i-dont-remember-their-names ghost in the Halloween special because they were too vile ; the chairman is not evil, it just feeds on misery.
As much as I tried to like it, there’s no denying that “Jinx vs. the Human World” was majorly rushed. The events were happening way too fast and things just came out of nowhere. I don’t know if this was the crew’s fault or if they did the episode before they knew about the cancellation. But regardless, characters like Jinx and the Chens were a failure in being fleshed out properly.
Jinx was never meant to be super deep and was meant to be a petty evil ghost who’s fun to hate. She was executed perfectly in that regard with all her episodes. Jinx vs the human world wasn’t as rushed as you may think since stuff like them entering the ghost world to stop her was mainly to trap molly there so she could be drained by jinx’s sobgoblins. The chens were the ones to finally put an end to jinx by trapping her in the canister. Jinx had a whole song about her causing misery around the ghost world and taking it over which was at the 3 minute mark. The final song was a perfect parallel to jinx’s song and it was a way to stop big threats in the sobgoblins. Jinx was defeated after an ambush and save by Darryl giving June the spectrinuim so jinx definitely wasn’t easy to take down.
7:54 We know molly can get a bit crazy when it comes to her keeping her friendships and was never shown to be opposed to killing evil characters in the show so it more felt like we were seeing more of her and how like Sharon she can have a rage side.
Yep I do have to agree with you there was wasted potential in season 2 I was really hoping the chairman would return in season 2 like molly killing the chairman was her biggest mistake but nope he was wasted and never return and seeing jinx with the chairman robe that was biggest missing opportunity we could’ve gone to see the chairman vs molly, scratch, Libby and andrea, jinx was a okay villain but she didn’t get a lot of screen time, lord doom could’ve been a good villain too but he was stuck inside a baby doll which is stupid, and I thought the biz mart was going to do something similar like scheck from hey Arnold the movie but that didn’t happen and I really wish the Chens were villains too like there opposite of the ghostbusters
@@Welcometoweirdmaggedon It has the main characters separate in a way that makes total sense but also hits you in the feels while being smart about it. The message is also very good. It doesn’t have to be flashy to be a good climax.
Glad we agree that althought of all her flaws and I mean ALL HER FLAWS as a main villain, her song Back to Misery was amazing!!!!! Also like to this video just because it mentions Ninjago
Because she loved how miserable he made everything. Misery gave her joy because it was fun to see others suffer and since she was on a such a high position being the best joy hunter she was apart of the elite ghosts who watched everyone else.
Chairman certainly could be reverse-built up. I liked how through Scratch taking the chairman's robe we get to see the responsibilities the role has. I thought they would make more and more points about why Chairman kept things as they were and maybe give the character some nice and tragic backstory about sacrifices or the greater good. It would be an interesting lesson. "If you are going to do something about the system - be ready to fulfill the roles that the previous system had." Many pre-teen and teen-grade stories rarely focus on that. Not that every story needs this. Sometimes good-old good guys beat bad guys - happy end is sufficient, but I just find the addition of the consequences of that quite deep, especially if you keep the narrative to go after that.
Atleast we can all agree jinx has had the best Disney villain song in the past decade of Disney.
Yes.
Remember Bill Cipher had a Villian song but it was cut I do think Belos and Andrias should of had some sort of Villian song
@@TheTakenGamer I know it was cut but I still think jinx is better than the cut song.
@@KirbyStarAnimation yeah fair but I think we all know which one is the better villain overall, I do think jinx vs the human world was rushed abit they could of made it a 2 part episode like kinda season 1 the Villians in this show could of been so much better in every way, Its like they wanted to make something worse than change your mind from SU which is bad episode depending on your perspective
@@TheTakenGamer I agree that bill is a better villain. And to be fair they probably wanted to do more with her but the show only having 2 seasons instead of its intended 3 so they probably had planned to have maybe one more part of an episode to lead up to the intended season finale.
Im just glad JInx wasnt the ghost version of Scarch's old friend
So agreed! Jinx barely did anything! When I watched the episode, I noted that Jinx was the Chairman, and I thought she was going to do something like a curse at one point...
She didn't.
She didn't really do anything. She had all that power and she never used it! In general, I always thought Scratch being the chairman was more like a crutch for the season than something actually important to the plot, as it just felt like something to be "used" in a sense rather than something that would actually be expanded upon or developed. Sigh.
I didn't even realize how little she appeared, lol
All Jinx wanted to do was take over the human world but like, why? She already rules the entire afterlife, all the people she would conquer by taking over the human world she would conquer any way when they just die. The only reason she wanted to take over the human world was because she can I guess💀. It just feels like the writers did it as a lazy way to raise the stakes
@@theghostwiththemost789 Oh yeah, I never really considered that Jinx doesn’t have the most solid reason to take it over. I just saw it as “more power” or something.
Step 1: conquer the ghost world
Step 2: conquer the human world
Step 3: ???
Step 4: profit
@@theghostwiththemost789She literally said it’s because she wanted to do something no chairman or ghost had done before since she wanted to make a big impression.
@@CHECommonHumanErrorShe destroys almost the entire ghost world, makes a new flow of failed phantoms where almost every ghost was trapped and implied tortured, drains Molly’s joy to feed her son goblins to take over the living world, uses transmutation and reality warping powers from the robe that are similar to Molly’s joy powers but in reverse since she made everything more miserable in the living world instead of happier in the ghost world.
What do you mean she didn’t do anything.
@@KirbyStarAnimation When she gets to the human world, she just stands by and lets the sobgoblins do her work. Then when they try to stop her, she again stands by and lets the sobgoblins defend her. After they’re defeated, she‘s basically disabled.
Total agreement, buddy. The writers barely gave Jinx and the Chens any screen time even though they were supposed to be the main threats of this season. And we still know literally nothing about the Chairman! He never talked and we never explored his past. All in all, Season 2 felt like it had too many filler episodes, instead of ones that moved the plot along. 👻
Definitely. People say “the story isn’t what the show is about. It’s an episodic comedy” and to that I say, WHY IS THE STORY STUFF IN THE SHOW THEN! I think the show is really great when it’s being a fun episodic comedy, but I think it’s fails in almost every one of its story beats, not just the villains. I’m planning on making a follow up video where I talk about how the show fails at story in general
@@theghostwiththemost789The three story arcs were the chens, jinx, and scratch’s past plot.
The show had 14 episodes dedicated to its story arcs with 4 of them being full length episodes.
There are 38 episodes in the season so that’s a bit over 1 third dedicated to the story arcs.
There were 3 dedicated to jinx but she was already set up in season 1 and had a full length episode dedicated to her story.
4 dedicated to scratch’s past with the last one being the finale and a full length episode.
And 7 technically 8 dedicated to the chens plot with 2 full length episodes dedicated to it.
As an episodic show having over a third of your episodes and all your full length ones dedicated to your story arcs is pretty impressive.
Compare this to big city greens for example a show l love but the main plot was the chip plot and by chipocalypse now chip had appeared only 6 times in half length episodes over the span of 2 seasons.
Now he’s brought back and they’ve had one episode about him so far and even though I think he’s a great villain it shows the ghost and Molly McGee could do a lot worse with its story arcs.
The show doesn’t have filler since it’s a mainly episodic one with an overarching story like regular show for example.
That doesn’t mean regular show had only filler for 6 seasons.
The chairman in season 1 was just a means to an end of ghosts being forced to cause misery and the reason he wasn’t a big factor is the fact the actual main plot was molly enhappyfying Brighton which lead to the finale where Molly has to save scratch.
The finale of this season was a personal and more heartfelt story rather than a action packed defeat the villain one since that’s not what the show was about but that didn’t mean it couldn’t have villains.
Villains aren’t always the one driving the main conflict and usually their defeat is the means to an end but that doesn’t mean all the problems are solved by beating the bad guy which this show showed perfectly in the finale.
@@theghostwiththemost789 Episodic show can have story elements here and there and still be episodic.
And even then I would still consider the The Ghost and Molly McGee doing a good job with its story elements despite a few flaws.
Plus what people don't notice was that TGAMM team had to struggle with the fact that the show was already cancelled by Disney during the 1st season according to one of the creators. They were fighting a not winnable battle and at least tried to tell the story they wanted and for what it's worth, I feel they succeeded in that regard.
We could have a greater Villain, if we had SEASON 3!!!
13:21 Also this shot it so raw and menacing looking.
I see the ghost council as being incredibly smart humans who knew a lot about ruling and getting stuff done so the chairman hired them and even though they loved the work they were also terrified of him. They became so dependent on him since they didn’t have much time just relaxing as a ghost and human so they felt like they needed a leader.
10:34 To be fair she had to take it off because of how itchy is was and she grabbed it the human world so it probably didn’t work the same as if she got it in the ghost world.
I think that the focus of the show with the constraints by Disney didn't give enough to flush out their villians.
The chairman is without a doubt the most wasted character in the entire series.
Nah. I think the most wasted villain is the corporate that lead the Davenport to bankrupcy.
I do agree that I wish there was an awesome fight between jinx with the robe and the ghost friends where Molly just lays a smack down at the end.
My problem with Jinx was that she doesn't really appear much
That’s one of my problems with her. She supposedly the main villain of Season 2 but she’s barely even in it
@@theghostwiththemost789Chip whistler, the core, warmonga and warmongo, and Morlak all didn’t have much or in the last two’s case any before their final confrontation and in at least chip and morlaks case were great villains.
Bill cipher who jinx is oddly similar to in how they set them up with being in the penultimate episode before the finale of the first season where they worked for the main antagonist of the first one and then had two major appearances in the second season where they are the main antagonist is an amazing villain didn’t even much of an appearance before weirdmaggedon since he only had two episodes where he played a major role before that and he was the main antagonist of a serialized show.
Even emperor belos who was another great villain only had one major appearance in season 1 and in season 2 still didn’t have much with only elsewhere and else when and hollow mind having him being very important in at least his amount of dialogue and screen time before king’s tide and in elsewhere and else when he wasn’t even in his villain phase yet.
Even in thanks to them he was not talking until the last 10-15 minutes where even then during the last 5-7 he wasn’t there and it was mainly build up for the majority of the episode, in for the future he barely appears for at max 4-5 minutes, and in watching in dreaming it’s the final battle against him where he gets an extremely satisfying death.
9:54 They do say he technically vanquished the chairman.
I have to strongly disagree.
Jinx felt like she was meant to be a petty villain. And IMO it works. Nit wvery villain meeds to be Darcy or Belos to be great. In ny eyes Jinx works as a villain but kinda like why people like Doofenshmirtz as a petty villain.
Also yes it is a hot take. The songs in TGAMM SLAP.
I’m fine with a petty villain. My problem is that Jinx is super under developed. Unlike Darcy, Belos or Doof, we know almost nothing about her. The Chairman has the same problem. My problem isn’t that she’s petty, it’s that we literally know nothing about her. We don’t know any of her motives for anything she does besides the fact that she liked the old chairman for a reason that is never explained. Even if we disagree, thank you for watching the video :3
@@theghostwiththemost789does bill cipher need backstory
@@rofutureman Bill cipher has a backstory. We know what his motives are. Jinx doesn’t have either of those things
@@theghostwiththemost789Jinx is just a ex joy hunter who was a big old chairman fan. Darcy only had 4 episodes of appearing before her 5th episode where she gets defeated and even then in all of them she except her last one she barely appears.
@@theghostwiththemost789Bill’s backstory was he destroyed his dimension because he was bored and wanted to rule the multiverse in order to party.
That was his motive and backstory.
The stuff between him and ford wasn’t a backstory it was him tricking ford to letting him enter the 3rd dimension.
7:45 See, I have this little headcanon theory that the true villain was Molly all along. Aside from Andrea who's being the local bitch, she's the perturbing element. Molly always goes out of her way to force people to do things. Except for Libby, everyone was doing okay in their lives before Molly appeared, and with or without Scratch's help, she would have shoved her "happy mood" down everyone's throat anyway. I mean, you mentioned it : she killed an entity and didn't feel bad about it, simply because said entity was doing and made others doing the opposite of what she likes. And have you seen her mad goblin energy whenever she's got an idea ? Or when something doesn't go her way ? She's a bully with puppy and flowers theme, wearing multicolored clothes and always smiling. Always assetive, rarely listening, always forgiven because she's the one who actively participated in Brighton's enhancement, but also always the source of some questionable roll of events. Toxic positivity at its finest. Kind enough to be loved, Too raw to be able to love.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that the Chairman that Molly atomized, he was the guardian of the balance and segregation between the world of the living and the dead : he jailed those i-dont-remember-their-names ghost in the Halloween special because they were too vile ; the chairman is not evil, it just feeds on misery.
As much as I tried to like it, there’s no denying that “Jinx vs. the Human World” was majorly rushed. The events were happening way too fast and things just came out of nowhere. I don’t know if this was the crew’s fault or if they did the episode before they knew about the cancellation. But regardless, characters like Jinx and the Chens were a failure in being fleshed out properly.
Jinx was never meant to be super deep and was meant to be a petty evil ghost who’s fun to hate.
She was executed perfectly in that regard with all her episodes.
Jinx vs the human world wasn’t as rushed as you may think since stuff like them entering the ghost world to stop her was mainly to trap molly there so she could be drained by jinx’s sobgoblins.
The chens were the ones to finally put an end to jinx by trapping her in the canister.
Jinx had a whole song about her causing misery around the ghost world and taking it over which was at the 3 minute mark.
The final song was a perfect parallel to jinx’s song and it was a way to stop big threats in the sobgoblins.
Jinx was defeated after an ambush and save by Darryl giving June the spectrinuim so jinx definitely wasn’t easy to take down.
Also the cancellation was known since s2 was in the writing stages.
Apparently in season three they were planning on doing more with the robe but since the show was cancelled they couldn’t.
7:54 We know molly can get a bit crazy when it comes to her keeping her friendships and was never shown to be opposed to killing evil characters in the show so it more felt like we were seeing more of her and how like Sharon she can have a rage side.
14:10 Well she was caught off guard and did try to attack after even though she didn’t have the robe.
Yep I do have to agree with you there was wasted potential in season 2 I was really hoping the chairman would return in season 2 like molly killing the chairman was her biggest mistake but nope he was wasted and never return and seeing jinx with the chairman robe that was biggest missing opportunity we could’ve gone to see the chairman vs molly, scratch, Libby and andrea, jinx was a okay villain but she didn’t get a lot of screen time, lord doom could’ve been a good villain too but he was stuck inside a baby doll which is stupid, and I thought the biz mart was going to do something similar like scheck from hey Arnold the movie but that didn’t happen and I really wish the Chens were villains too like there opposite of the ghostbusters
They just killed off the main villain
Jinx vs the human world is the final battle while the end is the climax. Not every finale without a villain to defeat is just the falling action.
Not Much Climatic Happens In “The End”. It’s Just A Conclusion.
@@Welcometoweirdmaggedon It has the main characters separate in a way that makes total sense but also hits you in the feels while being smart about it.
The message is also very good.
It doesn’t have to be flashy to be a good climax.
@@KirbyStarAnimation I Know That, I’m Just Saying That It’s Not A Climax
They should have had the Chairman come back like his DNA was still around and Jinx brought him back as where would a ghost even go super afterlife ?
Glad we agree that althought of all her flaws and I mean ALL HER FLAWS as a main villain, her song Back to Misery was amazing!!!!! Also like to this video just because it mentions Ninjago
I’ve made a few videos about Ninjago before. I’m going to make another one soon
@@theghostwiththemost789 Oh yes I see, I just clicked in this video without really knowing What your content Is about 😅😅😅
@@DayR-sk8yq I kind of just making videos about whatever. Mainly TV shows and occasionally video games
I do think that all of the songs in this series were great.
I can see the Chariman being a weak villain as he never speaks nor do we know what he thinks on Molly and Scartch and why did JInx praise him so much
Because she loved how miserable he made everything. Misery gave her joy because it was fun to see others suffer and since she was on a such a high position being the best joy hunter she was apart of the elite ghosts who watched everyone else.
Chairman certainly could be reverse-built up. I liked how through Scratch taking the chairman's robe we get to see the responsibilities the role has. I thought they would make more and more points about why Chairman kept things as they were and maybe give the character some nice and tragic backstory about sacrifices or the greater good. It would be an interesting lesson. "If you are going to do something about the system - be ready to fulfill the roles that the previous system had." Many pre-teen and teen-grade stories rarely focus on that. Not that every story needs this. Sometimes good-old good guys beat bad guys - happy end is sufficient, but I just find the addition of the consequences of that quite deep, especially if you keep the narrative to go after that.
off cam arc to goodness
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