The BEST Motorhome SAFETY Upgrade - Roadmaster Front Sway Bar Installation!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Hi everyone and welcome back to another video. In this video we unbox and install the Roadmaster front anti-sway bar. This is an easy DIY job that will drastically improve the stability of your motorhome while reducing side to side lean. After a detailed installation we take our motorhome out for a test drive and show you how much the handling and cornering have improved. This was one of the BEST safety upgrades we have done to our Newmar motorhome.
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Man, you guys are killing it with these videos. This community is so appreciative to have you guys! Great Video....
Thanks so much Paul. Right back at ya. 🙌 - MJ
Ford has know this for years. As a mechanic for 40 years I have seen these problems over and over. The motorhome manufacturers should have addressed this issue before the motorhome was sold. The issue is so bad I have know some people that just gave up there motorhome because of the drive. Thanks for the video 🚙🚙👍👍
Yeah it’s pretty bad out of the factory. Thanks for sharing.
Izzy
I just recommended to a fellow Newmar owner to call Safe-T-Plus to help with sway and crosswinds this morning. He had an older pre- Comfort Drive® Newmar diesel. The Blue Ox TruCenter has the ability to adjust from the cockpit so, say you're in strong crosswinds, you can strengthen the resistance. Kinda like the Comfort Drive® on Newmars. Anything is better than the stock on most MHs.
Yes we have heard of the TruCenter. Thanks for sharing Roy.
Izzy
I just ordered the RM 22000# front sway bar , the safe-T-plus has been great ,now it's time for the sway bar. 2015 Adventurer 32D
This was one of the many reasons I decided to go from a class A gas to a DP. Trucks were throwing me all over the road every time they flew past me. DP solved that problem. Big difference between the gas coach and DP. Much more relaxing drive.
We agree. We have driven both DP and Super C’s and they are certainly different. Thanks for sharing.
Izzy
Thanks much for the DIY video, glad you did a test drive to show us how much better.
Oh it was such a big difference. So happy we did it. Thanks! - MJ
I am glad that helped out, I guess I don’t understand why these manufacturers don’t put these on at the factory. I am sure they would say cost,but if you are dealing in volume like they do it can’t be that much difference in cost. My Super C has great big sway bars on it from Freightliner and as You know they are very stable. Thanks Guys class A owners should hop on this for sure !!
Hey Don it’s about cost but I believe the new f53 comes with a 2 inch sway bar now which should help a lot.
Izzy
Thank you Izzy! I wish I could be mechanic and upgrade an Rv like that. Great job. Look like it handles pretty well. Thank you again Izzy! See you soon! Stay safe.
Thanks Sherri!!
Excellent presentation! I'm going to order the sway bar for our F53 along with the KONI shocks and Sumo Springs. Also, thanks for pointing out the proper torque for the sway bar bolts. Most videos I've watched do not mention this. Many thanks for sharing your experiences and expertise.
I did the cheap fix sway bar front and rear from your early video, added timbren bump stops front and rear and a rear track bar. A lot better ride!!!!!!
Awesome thanks for sharing.
Izzy
The ride seemed very smooth.
It was much different. Amazing! - MJ
I just did the safe t plus steering stabilizer . It helped a lot . Just took it to Maine and back from Long Island . So windy on the way there and was getting blown around . I have a class C 26’ . Definitely want to add sway bars too . Not sure if that will help with bad wind but going give it a try . The steering stabilizer definitely helped
The sway bar was a noticeable difference in reducing lean. Thanks for watching and comment.
Another great video! BTW Nice dance moves at Dylan’s with Abby and Jim.
Haha thanks David! It was fun. - MJ
My sway bar just arrived #1139-148. Sweet Jesus is it heavy! Since I ordered it a week ago, I learned the 2020 F53 may have significant upgrades from Ford to include front/rear sway bars and a rear track bar. I am hopefully picking up the coach within a few days and will be inspecting the upgrades promptly. If I don't need it, I'll return it and get sumo springs. Great video folks!
Thanks for sharing.
Izzy
Great video. I never even thought of sway bars when it comes to Class A’s. TY
Such a big difference. We love it! Thanks Lori. :) - MJ
Be safe. Please remember to and maybe you did it but just didn’t mention it like you did the park and emergency brake, though you’re in front of the tires always chock your rear wheels when working under your vehicle. Great channel by the way.
Yes we do chock. Thanks for checking out our channel.
Izzy
As always great video! Next time use better light under the RV to show the details better! As you said simple installation. Stay safe and healthy! Safe travels!
Thanks for the feedback.
Izzy
Keep 'em coming.
Will do. 👍 - MJ
Good video, I just wish there was better lighting when you were working under the RV, so I could have a better view of exactly what you were doing.
That's a little difficult. If you want to get us a lift, it would make things easier to light it up. 😂
Awesome. If you want to install the rear sway bar I have a 600 lb torque wrench you guys can borrow to help install.
Thanks Chris we have a Milwaukee Fuel that will break anything. I use that little Ryobi for smaller jobs. Thanks for the offer.
Izzy
Dude, you were flying!! 😂😂
We pushed it a bit to give the viewers an better idea of how the sway bar was working. Thanks for watching and the comment.
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Izzy
Good video. My last RV was a 28ft Gas with the F53 chassis. I did an alignment, CHF, Roadmaster Steering Stabilizer and new front tires. I admit it rode a TON better but just getting pushed by Semis was terrible. My wife drove 30mins of our 10 hour trip and said she's done.
I wanted to get the rear Trac Bar, so I'm wondering how you would rate that part.
I ended up getting a Pusher since then because I couldn't see spending thousands of dollars and still have the ride like it was. Shocks, sway bars would have just been a lot.
Thanks for the awesome videos.
Rear Trac Bar helps as well as the sumo springs. Even if we go all out with suspension upgrades we are still significantly less cost than a Newmar 37 ft DP. Granted we won’t get the same ride but we won’t have the same operating and maintenance cost either.
Thank for watching and the comment.
Izzy
Thanks for the info guys. Good job. 👍
Thanks so much Tony! 🙌 - MJ
Liking the video so far but thought I noticed some white stuff falling. If so holy crap. We can see it good. Looks like a pretty easy install overall accept for the space and weight. Very well explained. Nice share y'all.
Hey William no snow falling yet. Hopefully very little this year. Pretty easy install and big handling improvement.
Thanks for watching.
Izzy
Maybe pay attention to that white sign with big black numbers especially on a curved road... might help with the handling too... lol
:) Good point!
Great video!! I think this and the quadshock might be next on our upgrade list. The sumo springs and safety plus have made a huge difference but I heard the quadshock really smooths out the ride. I think the sway bar upgrade will be first. Thanks!!
Definitely the cheaper of the 2 mods and it does make a big difference in reducing lean. Thanks for watching guys.
Izzy
I have installed the Hellwig rear anti sway bar and that helped a lot.. but I have read several reviews that customers said the front anti sway bar didn't make a noticeable difference.
I'm installing quad shocks. Just got the 4 new ones on today.
My f53 only has 20k miles so I'm only going to add 4 more Bilistein.
I'll post the results.
@@Terryblount thanks for sharing Terry.
Is this the V8 Godzilla or the old V10? I hear the new Godzilla V8 has improved suspension front and rear.
V10 and yes new f53 chassis does have improved suspension.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
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Izzy and MJ, thanks for the additional detail on the Roadmaster Front Sway Bar. I know you did the cheap fix first, so you noticed a big difference with the Roadmaster even over the cheap fix? Was just wondering if it's worth the effort to do the cheap fix, or to simply go right to the Roadmaster. Thanks in advance.
There is a big difference with the roadmaster. I would recommend just upgrading the sway bar.
Thanks for watching
Izzy
I know there is a big difference in the size/thickness of the new sway bar but with that in mind how "much" difference did you notice between this upgrade and compared to the CHF? I know there is a difference but is it that much more significant, more of I feel safer with the new gear and really didn't trust the CHF or was it a WOW moment? Considering the cost difference are you satisfied with the new SB in the way you were when you did the CHF? Or, were you not that pleased with the CHF which is why you went to the upgraded SB? I know this is a lot of questions but inquiring minds want to know. Thanks man! Safe travels 😎
We are much happier with the SB. Definitely worth it. 👍 - MJ
Did youtube CHF f53. With the safe t steer and rear and front end fix i drive with one hand. Used Stock sway bar front and rear.
We did the CHF also. The sway bar is a big improvement over the CHF.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
Hey guys. I am sold on these upgrades for the safety and confidence it will give us.
Would you rank the upgrades you have done in the order of most dramatic and safety improvements. You have the Suma springs, front Safety-T- Steer and the front sway bar.
Did you or plan to do a rear stabilizer upgrade and the “tail-wag” stabilizer also?
Tom Yuhas
Hi Tom we have quite a few suspension upgrades. They do make a big difference in drive
Rank in order from best to least (simply my opinion)
Sumo springs (front and rear)
Front sway bar
Safe T plus
Supersteer Rear Trac bar
We are installing super steer front radius rods probably next weekend
I also want to upgrade rear sway bar and go a koni quad shocks in the rear and double up front.
Amazon was the cheapest place we found our parts. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Izzy
Hey Izzy and MJ, checking out all your videos on suspension upgrades. Now that you've had it for a few months, what are you impressions after driving for a while? I'm thinking of sway bar and steering stabilizer. Thanks for all you do, used to be on the job too...
It’s a great upgrade however we are having a liquid spring suspension installed which is another level.
Thanks for watching and the comment
Izzy
@@EndlessRVing Yeah I love the liquid spring, but can't afford the $20k to get it done.
Is the torque on the saddle brackets bolts the same as ones on links bolts (66lbs)? Going to order Roadmaster next week. Thanks BIG time for the video!
Hi Jim, I believe it’s 75-80 lbs on saddle brackets.
There are two mounting holes for the end links...did you try both to see a difference?...I installed this bar but think it could use a bit more stiffness
No the roadmaster itself made a huge difference in stock hole position.
Thanks for watching
Great video Izzy! I have a question: Does the Safe-T-Plus bar perform similar job (to make drive more controllable) as the Sway Bar? Do I need both? Thanks for sharing your knowledge👍👍
They do different jobs. The sway bar reduces sway the Safe T plus helps control the steering wheel and keep it tracking straight. They compliment each other.
Izzy
@@EndlessRVing Thank you Izzy. You're the best!
You not say and I can’t tell if you put the connecting rods back to the FRONT holes or the back ones that you did for the CHF
Hey Jim
We used the OEM position.
Izzy
So would you say the CHF or having the connecting rods back in the front holes on new anti sway bar provided the most improvement?
Hey Jim, New anti sway bar is a noticeable difference vs CHF. I hope that came through in the driving portion. I was taking the turns pretty hard.
So if the Roadmaster comes with new bolts why do you think they say to use the stock ones?
Hey Jim, That’s a good question that I don’t have the answer for lol, but the instructions do say to use the stock bolts.
Izzy
Do you think the Roadmaster sway bar was better than the Cheap Handling Fix?
100% yes
Izzy
Would the same apply to class C's also
Depends on what chassis they are on.
Thanks for watching and the comment.
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I really wish that you'll do an update after real world driving through construction zones and big trucks blowing you around.
I've installed the Hellwig rear anti stabilizer and it helped a lot but after reading countless reviews on the front stabilizer I find most people saying that the front doesn't make a significant difference. I would expect a better performance after spending $600 and having to remove the factory install and replacing it.
I finally got my bilistein shocks today. I'm going to install quad shocks. My f53 only has 20k miles so I'm just going to add 4 more bilistein gas shocks and keep the ones on that it came with.
That's the plan but I'll see how it goes.
Sorry Terry we do our best on these videos. As you may or may not know we both work full time and run the channel. I don’t believe we have seen any other channel doing a road test after install but we could be wrong.
Perhaps you can provide the information you request through a detailed video. The community would appreciate it
Izzy
@@EndlessRVing
Understood. I have posted about 35 videos... some very long .... but I haven't installed a front sway bar so I was just hoping for an update from someone who had.
We may do an overall video review when we are complete with all our suspension upgrades
Izzy
Will a impact driver work or do you recommend a impact wrench …thanks for your video
We used an impact wrench. Thanks for watching and the comment
Depends on the driver. But most newer generation impact drivers should be able to take those 15mm bolts off with ease if they’re not rusted to pieces. The bolts should be torqued well under 100ft lbs from the factory.
@@ndoc8889 Thanks for the info . My Milwaukee 1/4 driver should do the trick.
Should have more than enough power. The Milwaukee Gen 2 and 3 are beasts.
Sounds to me you say model number 1139148 but when I click on your link it takes me to model number 1139140. I have same chassis as you do so which number is correct one?
148 is the model you need. 24-26k chassis.
Izzy