CNT muscle fibers from metal gear rising!! let's go! can't wait for brain machine interfacing and CNT muscle fiber tech to improve to a point where humans can have really powerful artificial limbs
5 Years ago... if I had to guess, I'd say that they patented it, so nothing happened. If they'd open-sourced it, there would have been a flowering of developments and new-techs in the last 5 years. As it is, nothing.
Or, for some reason, useful applications of discoveries takes MORE than 5 years, for SOME REASON, and patent law is not the literal embodiment of Satan.
The main reason 3d printing has taken off is that various patents expired. The reason America was so massively behind in combat-capable aircraft at the start of WW1 is that the Wright Brother's spent the rest of their lives fighting patent battles. The reason the movie industry is in California and not on the East Coast, is that the pioneers needed to get away from Edison's patents. And then there's the deplorable state of the US healthcare system. Patents were originally set up to stop people keeping trade-secrets... so ideas could be shared. Today they're having the opposite effect: To kill competition. "Literal embodiment of Satan" is a straw-man... the truth is, that wherever you look, there's this recurring pattern: "IP" is sclerotic to innovation.
I totally agree with Nick. Patents really stifle growth. I don't think people should be able to rip each other off but the whole patent/copyright/trademark system needs an overhaul
exactly. Patents have been stifling growth these past decades where improved communication can result in unprecedented innovation as community participation take a simple concept far beyond what any single person or company can do. Patents are fundamentally against the nature of progress in this era of technology based innovation and prevents people from "standing on the shoulders of giants". Patents are no longer used to "protect" one's idea- it's used to completely monopolize the field for the sake of their own greed.
come on those are innovations for 40-50 years in the future, almost nothing will happen in 60 months with the rate of money invested in science today, if there were a war then governments would invest LOTS of resources into this to create super powerful lightweight exosqueletons for soldiers in matters of 5-7 years with a relative good performance but that will never happen in times of peace.
Interesting. I'm seeing some fascinating applications for not only robotics, but also cybernetics and military aircraft controls. Couple this technology with ZPE (when we get that figured out) and the possibilities are nearly endless. Just imagine a replacement limb with this musculature powered by the brain alone or a replacement heart. Not to mention the control surfaces for aircraft.
this stuff is so much cooler than air muscle.... i simply cant wait for nanotube muscles to finally be put into a commercially available engineering package
la cantidad de musculo es minima! Asi que no solo el precio del material. Sino la inmensa cantidad de energia necesaria para mover uno de tamaño decente. Y Peor aun, para mantenerlo en la posicion se necesita seguir aplicando energia.
@thefatmoop. He is listed as the corresponding author of the paper (just google "Giant Stroke Artifical Muscels"), where their results were published. At that time the lowest observed temperature this would work with was 80K. That was in 2009, two years before this video was published. They tested it near 0K within those two years, as you can see in later publications. This is a popular science video, not a publication, he's explaining stuff to the general public: expect inaccuracies. What he proabbly meant was the operating range goes down to, but doesn't include 0K. Also it's redundant to say it like that, since anyone knows you can't reach 0K.
Very awesome. This guy knows a lot and enjoys his work so much i love it. I love lighter than air flying saucer antigravity craft and carbon nanotubes and metamaterials and advanced robotics and materials science
Wouldn't muscles with that kind of strength and speed be extremely dangerous without very precise control? Like, wouldn't it be able to completely destroy your arm just by flexing if it goes too fast and contracts too far?
No, unless it's built under your human flesh skin or it's used to make an Iron Man suit. For artificial arm or leg, it doesn't bother you a one bit and the amount of electricity you will push in to each fiber will determine how much the muscle expands and how fast so you will be able to have quite decent control over it. Maybe even more precise control than you have over your human hands and if there's need for it, you can go on full blast mode to pick up even a truck.
I hope they know we would need new bones as these muscles would be all too powerful. maybe you should just throw a few in there and fill it in with something cuz you simply can't take every bone out of a body
I be thinking that too. Apparently it hasn't made it out of the lab due to nondescript production problems, or maybe the fact that this muscle can only expand, and horizontally at that. It's pretty much useless for any robot or machine.
Carbon nanotube aerogels are hideously expensive. Check out his lab's later work with electroosmotic CNT yarns, they're a little less costly and also super cool.
But Nylon fiber artificial musclculature is nice and cheap and easy to work with...and is almost as good... and has 30 years of research and case studies
Problem being that they activate with Heat rather then "only electricity". They have to be cooles wich Makes Things so much more complicated and slower then those Carbon Nanotubes Muscles wich can be switched on and of almost instantly. This is a huge Advantage
I wonder if you could make cables out of it then you could make a motor. I would like to know more about this material. The cables would be attached to a offset cam and contracted at the perfect time.
i think the problem of carbon-nanotubes wires is union betwen them and cooper wire...they lose a lot when the interconect( is wath i understund in others videos) any way this year i start my grade of electric enginireng and i expect to learn a lot about this material and electricity.
devi prasad I think they were demonstrating the opacity of the material, not measuring mechanical properties. What I'd like to know is why a large poisson ratio of 15 is a good thing. So say you stretch it 1mm axially, that means it compresses 15mm transversely!? That's massive. Or maybe my understanding is a bit off.
Sam Chang So a poisson ratio is defined as the negative partial derivative of transverse to axial strain. imagine a metal pole "necking" in the middle as you stretch it by pulling on each end. Without talking too much about calculus, you can think of the ratio as the fraction by which a material will "neck" or negatively "neck" when you stretch or squish it. the negative sign designates a swelling instead of a "necking" :) does that help?
es facil. ahora tu tienes un muscolo, con lo cual to puedes construir todo. cellulas roboticos con cola, insectos volandos y con cameras, perros, caballos,ikranos(AVATAR). Se puede reconstruir todo la naturaleza en una manera de actuacion fisico en reversa. Y tambien en una decada, con la llegada de AI primitivos(Memrsitor y cellular networks),pueden tener intelegencia. Eso es una invencion extraordinario. Los robotes pueden ser perfectos.
So r u telling me its possible to create sunny the Robot from the movie iRobot, this is it! this is the final Answer for realistic human like robots! since 2023 is the year that A.I is exploded, i think its a good idea to make the right robot theses days!
should never do it it would be unfair. we should instead learn more about extra cellular matrix and push it's abilities to the max so people can regrow things more naturally
zerpBot I believe what they were implying was that it would use mechanical motion to augment or replace current photovolatic approaches to solar cells. That is, turn the relatively large physical motion from the expansion and contraction generated by the aerogel into electrical current instead of just relying on the photovoltaic effect. Also, solar tracking happens by either diverting some of the generated electricity to battery storage and using that stored electricity to power the tracking motors. In either case a surplus of electricity needs to be generated for tracking to be effective, regardless if a mechanically augmented (aerogel) or conventional solar cell is used. (i.e. if you use more than you generate, you can't generate enough to track the sun, no matter what tech is used)
operates at absolute 0 huh?.... Really.... Sheesh I hope he didn't have anything to do with the research, and i really hope he's not a prof in any science related class.
And where are all the Artificial Muscles now. And the solar cells, and the space elevator and all the rest you have been talking about last decades. Carbon nanotubes you big tease...
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CNT muscle fibers from metal gear rising!! let's go! can't wait for brain machine interfacing and CNT muscle fiber tech to improve to a point where humans can have really powerful artificial limbs
He looks so proud. This is awesome.
So basically Carbon is the single best Element on the periodic table. Dammit Iridium, you were suppose to be my favorite.
Why Iridium?
There's nothing "supposed" about it. It's a fact.
lol
Nanosuit is comming
5 Years ago... if I had to guess, I'd say that they patented it, so nothing happened.
If they'd open-sourced it, there would have been a flowering of developments and new-techs in the last 5 years. As it is, nothing.
Or, for some reason, useful applications of discoveries takes MORE than 5 years, for SOME REASON, and patent law is not the literal embodiment of Satan.
The main reason 3d printing has taken off is that various patents expired. The reason America was so massively behind in combat-capable aircraft at the start of WW1 is that the Wright Brother's spent the rest of their lives fighting patent battles. The reason the movie industry is in California and not on the East Coast, is that the pioneers needed to get away from Edison's patents.
And then there's the deplorable state of the US healthcare system.
Patents were originally set up to stop people keeping trade-secrets... so ideas could be shared. Today they're having the opposite effect: To kill competition.
"Literal embodiment of Satan" is a straw-man... the truth is, that wherever you look, there's this recurring pattern: "IP" is sclerotic to innovation.
i want a link about the details.. share the blessing ::)
I totally agree with Nick. Patents really stifle growth. I don't think people should be able to rip each other off but the whole patent/copyright/trademark system needs an overhaul
exactly. Patents have been stifling growth these past decades where improved communication can result in unprecedented innovation as community participation take a simple concept far beyond what any single person or company can do. Patents are fundamentally against the nature of progress in this era of technology based innovation and prevents people from "standing on the shoulders of giants".
Patents are no longer used to "protect" one's idea- it's used to completely monopolize the field for the sake of their own greed.
5 years left. Where is your "SUPER muscle" ???
come on those are innovations for 40-50 years in the future, almost nothing will happen in 60 months with the rate of money invested in science today, if there were a war then governments would invest LOTS of resources into this to create super powerful lightweight exosqueletons for soldiers in matters of 5-7 years with a relative good performance but that will never happen in times of peace.
Let's give people limbs!
Interesting. I'm seeing some fascinating applications for not only robotics, but also cybernetics and military aircraft controls. Couple this technology with ZPE (when we get that figured out) and the possibilities are nearly endless.
Just imagine a replacement limb with this musculature powered by the brain alone or a replacement heart. Not to mention the control surfaces for aircraft.
This is amazing.
crisis3 nano suit
raul urias think the same ;)
Yeet
Hmmm reminds me of Myomer muscles used in BattleMechs from the BattleTech universe.
Impresionante gracias.
this stuff is so much cooler than air muscle.... i simply cant wait for nanotube muscles to finally be put into a commercially available engineering package
With these muscles man could be like Goku.
Is there a paper describing how they pull the carbon nanotubes into the aerogel?
Chase Lewis it looks like spinning wool into yarn
la cantidad de musculo es minima! Asi que no solo el precio del material. Sino la inmensa cantidad de energia necesaria para mover uno de tamaño decente. Y Peor aun, para mantenerlo en la posicion se necesita seguir aplicando energia.
I've got to find a source of this type of CNTM, but in bundles of set sizes. If anyone knows of a place where I can find this, LET ME KNOW ASAP.
this technology hasn't aged well
How far are you.?
@thefatmoop. He is listed as the corresponding author of the paper (just google "Giant Stroke Artifical Muscels"), where their results were published. At that time the lowest observed temperature this would work with was 80K. That was in 2009, two years before this video was published. They tested it near 0K within those two years, as you can see in later publications.
This is a popular science video, not a publication, he's explaining stuff to the general public: expect inaccuracies. What he proabbly meant was the operating range goes down to, but doesn't include 0K. Also it's redundant to say it like that, since anyone knows you can't reach 0K.
Just put some electromagnets in a elastic tube, it would be way more easy, but also heavy.
Very awesome. This guy knows a lot and enjoys his work so much i love it. I love lighter than air flying saucer antigravity craft and carbon nanotubes and metamaterials and advanced robotics and materials science
awesome
get the super piezo electric ceramic of MJOLNIR spartan body suit out of my way
this is FAR BETTTEEEER!!!!!!
Pueden predecir hacia donde se mueve la tecnologia????
Wouldn't muscles with that kind of strength and speed be extremely dangerous without very precise control? Like, wouldn't it be able to completely destroy your arm just by flexing if it goes too fast and contracts too far?
humans under adrenaline can do that
edit: yeah like the other guy said with a variable voltage
No, unless it's built under your human flesh skin or it's used to make an Iron Man suit.
For artificial arm or leg, it doesn't bother you a one bit and the amount of electricity you will push in to each fiber will determine how much the muscle expands and how fast so you will be able to have quite decent control over it. Maybe even more precise control than you have over your human hands and if there's need for it, you can go on full blast mode to pick up even a truck.
Purple Aki approves
I hope they know we would need new bones as these muscles would be all too powerful. maybe you should just throw a few in there and fill it in with something cuz you simply can't take every bone out of a body
El unico obstaculo es de producir el material barato. Pero si ese obstaculo
desaparece.............
ten year later. Where is this technology ?? being used to create prosthetics and foldable machines stuffs... where is it? D:
I be thinking that too.
Apparently it hasn't made it out of the lab due to nondescript production problems, or maybe the fact that this muscle can only expand, and horizontally at that. It's pretty much useless for any robot or machine.
10 years passed - Where are the artificial muscles? Can someone explain why this discovery has not been turned into an actual product?
Carbon nanotube aerogels are hideously expensive. Check out his lab's later work with electroosmotic CNT yarns, they're a little less costly and also super cool.
But Nylon fiber artificial musclculature is nice and cheap and easy to work with...and is almost as good... and has 30 years of research and case studies
@Maria Madalena Lima why not? nothing lasts forever
Problem being that they activate with Heat rather then "only electricity". They have to be cooles wich Makes Things so much more complicated and slower then those Carbon Nanotubes Muscles wich can be switched on and of almost instantly. This is a huge Advantage
who much cost that fiber or wires? have better conductivity than coper? i want to make one motor with carbon-nanotube wires.
you can make it at home
how? you have any idea?
I wonder if you could make cables out of it then you could make a motor. I would like to know more about this material. The cables would be attached to a offset cam and contracted at the perfect time.
i think the problem of carbon-nanotubes wires is union betwen them and cooper wire...they lose a lot when the interconect( is wath i understund in others videos) any way this year i start my grade of electric enginireng and i expect to learn a lot about this material and electricity.
So don't transfer from carbon to copper make it all carbon.
Can you please explain me how the tensile property is measured
Which one?
Sam Chang the one in which laser is used to get mechanical properties at 1.37
devi prasad I think they were demonstrating the opacity of the material, not measuring mechanical properties. What I'd like to know is why a large poisson ratio of 15 is a good thing. So say you stretch it 1mm axially, that means it compresses 15mm transversely!? That's massive. Or maybe my understanding is a bit off.
devi prasad what is the name of that laser setup
Sam Chang So a poisson ratio is defined as the negative partial derivative of transverse to axial strain. imagine a metal pole "necking" in the middle as you stretch it by pulling on each end. Without talking too much about calculus, you can think of the ratio as the fraction by which a material will "neck" or negatively "neck" when you stretch or squish it. the negative sign designates a swelling instead of a "necking" :) does that help?
finally crysis 3 becomes reality
built a super suit
Imagine if it malfunctions and tightens everything up at once, if you arent crushed or suffocated, you will not be able to move at all
brutsi Cyberlimbs>Exosuits
When will we be able to 3D print artificial muscles?
3d print? r u stupid? 3d printing is getting to be old technology my friend. use full but not bigger than this or even close
es facil. ahora tu tienes un muscolo, con lo cual to puedes construir todo.
cellulas roboticos con cola, insectos volandos y con cameras, perros, caballos,ikranos(AVATAR). Se puede reconstruir todo la naturaleza en una manera de actuacion fisico en reversa. Y tambien en una decada, con la llegada de AI primitivos(Memrsitor y cellular networks),pueden tener intelegencia. Eso es una invencion extraordinario. Los robotes pueden ser
perfectos.
Do you want skynet?
Because that's how you get skynet.
So r u telling me its possible to create sunny the Robot from the movie iRobot, this is it! this is the final Answer for realistic human like robots! since 2023 is the year that A.I is exploded, i think its a good idea to make the right robot theses days!
let's do it
2018 and... nothing
-273°C to 1600°C. Who is the Terminator? LOL
should never do it it would be unfair. we should instead learn more about extra cellular matrix and push it's abilities to the max so people can regrow things more naturally
I don't understand how it would improve solar cells?
Hmm... Now that I see it again, I think this would work for tracking the sun without wasting extra energy.
zerpBot I believe what they were implying was that it would use mechanical motion to augment or replace current photovolatic approaches to solar cells. That is, turn the relatively large physical motion from the expansion and contraction generated by the aerogel into electrical current instead of just relying on the photovoltaic effect. Also, solar tracking happens by either diverting some of the generated electricity to battery storage and using that stored electricity to power the tracking motors. In either case a surplus of electricity needs to be generated for tracking to be effective, regardless if a mechanically augmented (aerogel) or conventional solar cell is used. (i.e. if you use more than you generate, you can't generate enough to track the sun, no matter what tech is used)
zerpBot larger surface area like activated carbons surface area
It’s spelled “artificial”
operates at absolute 0 huh?.... Really.... Sheesh I hope he didn't have anything to do with the research, and i really hope he's not a prof in any science related class.
😆
And where are all the Artificial Muscles now. And the solar cells, and the space elevator and all the rest you have been talking about last decades. Carbon nanotubes you big tease...