despite 99% of this video describing how hard it is to kill wukong, I'm pretty sure he still didn't quite describe just how hard it is to kill wukong. :) in all seriousness though, wukong is incredibly difficult to kill.
Whenever I introduce a friend to this game, I always tell them not to waste anything until he uses his 3. Nothing is worse than using an ultimate just to get Nope-birded
MeiaLua trueeeeeee but stil you can ult him all you whant and in the end its just a decoy happend to a few of my friends even thou i was telling them not to attack it but nobody listens :P
MeiaLua Unless you're a burst mage like Anubis who can stun and burn him down, or you can chase with Baka's high movement speed, and Serqets ("fair and balanced") two movement abilities.
Sun Wukong and Guan Yu need a slight buff. Their dmg and sustain are the worst amongst warriors. Play them against other warriors like Chaac and Hercules, you're just going to die over and over again. "Oh wait we have a top pick god, lets nerf him so that he is no longer viable!" - Hirez's logic when nerfing the gods
I have to say, I do agree that he is very tanky and I play him as a guardian due to the poke damage. His basics also lack a lot of damage compared to other warriors too.
I don't know about that I use him a lot and he has good damage. I'm able to beat a lot of so called high tier gods with him. They could stand to buff him a bit so that new players can play him more easily.
***** I played him for a good amount of time and I felt he was very heavy on defense but not so much on damage, I mean I got a lot of kills but that'd be if my team wasn't stealing.
Goku Well my main build for him is Mystical Mail, Warrior Tabi, Stone of Gaia, Witchblade, Jotuuns' Wrath and Qins' Sai. I mainly used him for solo I never really thought of him as good for support. Maybe I will do jungle.
***** i played him all day every day when he came out, I gotta say his damage now is not even close to what it was before, the nerfs were enough to not make me want to play him again
EKasis Yeah thats how I felt too but I got used to it and was able to make him playable to me at least plus the little buff on his 1 with minions reactions and bonus damage is nice.
72 transformations can also be pretty funny when you accidentally use the wrong one. Such as that one time I was trying to get someone in tiger form but accidentally turned into a bird, flew over their head into a tower and was promptly shot.
To be honest, this seems very interesting. I actually play Wukong quite a bit on League of Legends, I like his kit in LoL and this Wukong seems fun to play as too.
I play Sun Wukong alot and I feel that Master's Will needs to get back it's knock up ability. Also I call BS to both Eagle and OX form, because I've been knocked up in Ox form and I've been rooted in Eagle form as well. That being said Sun Wukong can do damage if you give him Critical hit items along with shields this combines quite well with the fact that at Low health he get's the critical hit chance.
I agree, he's not particularly powerful, and still pretty squishy. It's possible to be great with him (as with any god) but as of right now he seems too weak to make him a good pick over a lot of other characters.
joel I played a game of siege against a sun wu kong yesterday. He only built Mytical mail, stone of gaia and witchblade for defense items and our team were all damaging gods yet 2v1 they barely killed him.
Wha, nuuu, Trend! Goshdarnit, sick again? Aww! Have some cookies. And some tea. And some hugs. Get better soon, buddy! D: Also, thankies for the video. And props for making it, despite being un-well. Much appreciated.
Used to play SWK all the time. Hi-Rez castrated him though. So, many, nerfs. Two other things to avoid the tiger. It can be slowed, making it useless. It is hard to hit because you can't make tight circles with it, so if you have move speed make a tight circle and he'll just run around you and miss.
Why does everyone suddenly hate SWK? Just because of his nerf? Remember when Kukulkan got nerfed? His 3 doesn't do as much damage as it used to, yet you still see people wrecking everyone with his ult and his slow. SWK is a damn good solo, jungler, and guardian. Just because he was nerfed does not mean he no longer fits in the role as warrior. He has enough poke to push his lane, and enough clear to keep his lane from being pushed. Take a look at his kit. He has a slow, an escape, a knock up, a damage and a stun, a heal, and a distraction. His kit is everything you need to solo, and more. His slow will, of course, slow his enemies, which could be helpful for him to kill them or to run away from them. His bird is the best way to escape when he's in a bind. His ox is good for team fights. His tiger has high damage and stuns the enemy afterwords, which lets him spam the rest of his abilities on them or lets his teammates go in for the kill. His cloud heals him enough for him to jump back into the fight, or escape if he knows the fight isn't worth it. He also throws down a clone of himself as a distraction. What more could you want in a god? Everyone thinks a warrior has to be invincible. They don't. They need enough poke and wave clear to protect their lane. That is all.
Kuku's 3 is pretty bad now when you compare it to other mages that can do more damage in a similar sized AOE instantly instead of a DOT (scylla, vulcan, agni etc..) his 1 and ult are good but the 3 is really lack luster now...i barely ever see him played anymore. the nerfs were signifigant. SWK isnt as bad as some are making him out to be though i would say he is mid teir... they just took off the knock ups and the ult is really not very good compaired to warriors like vamana and chaac, they took away his balls to an extent.
I diamonded him, playing him more as a cooldown assassin. At max cooldown potential, with that kind of build you can really turn his abilities into real burst damage.
He really, really undersells Wukong's damage, though he just about has it right about his survivability. But that's fine. Better less people know about it so I have an easier time. I'm not that great.
His damage isn't great. His Tiger hurts, but you need to be with someone who can support the not leveling up your clear in Siege, and you need to be a bit bruiserish to initiate in arena or assault while still doing damage. It's not viable at all in conquest. He needs a small buff.
SangoProductions21 I play WuKong too. His damage is usable, but it's lack luster even by Warrior standards. Any physical god does well with in-hands if you built them that way, and the slow on his two helps, I do like running Frostbound Hammer WuKong. If the enemy runs you can chase them down and slow them for your team to catch up. Right now WuKong's is in an awkward spot. He needs a buff to feel satisfying for most, but his skills are too easy to hit to justify one.
SangoProductions21 SWK was nerfed into the ground. Unless you're playing against players who have no idea how to fight SWK and don't build any defense, his damage is pitiful and he's a joke in the solo lane (which is where Warriors SHOULD predominantly be).
I find that wukong is too much of an escape-god to be a tank but at the same time has the crowd control to be one, so I play mostly as a warrior or damage-based god
I had people tell me that Sun is bad. Sun Wukong has a clear, escape, stun, slow, knock-up, defense and crit steroid, a decoy, invisibility, and a regeneration. I think Sun Wukong is the perfect god for any lane and any role, all Sun needs is a little buff and he would be unstoppable.
WAIT! He said '' There are not a lot of flying tigers out there'' so that means some flying tigers are still out there!!!! PUM PUM PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!!!!
I play him solo or jungle because he can deal so much damage quickly that way and drop 1 or 2 people in the space of about 15 seconds with the correct items.
I like to put Deathbringer and Runeforged Hammer on my Wukong. This gives his auto attacks a bit more damage at lvl 20, with his passive's 30% crit chance and 30 extra protections combined with the item's effects. But other than that, I build tanky.
I think SWK can be played as an assassin. He can stick to you. If you buy him crits he can burst you down and he can tower dive with almost no penalthy.
Hears comment about Warriors being Jack-Of-All-Trades Begins to reminisce about the old Warrior Meta Cry Being to dream of a time gone by, of the Glory Days of Warriors
I sort of agree that sun wukong doesn't have a whole lot of damage in his kit, but I am never going to forget the game I went as wukong support with the score 18-2-32 and did almost 40k damage that game and had 3rd or 2nd highest damage in the game. Or the arena game I played a week ago and did 35k. Maybe I was really on point those game with landing my skills or the people I was playing against were really bad/ felt sorry for me.
I know they already changed sun wukong once from an assassin to warrior but they should change it back and buff his damage Because his gank ability with his tiger form is amazing
To me, Sun is only worth having around if there's an actual guardian on your team. Sun is fairly tanky and good at escapes, but I don't find his damage or cc all that much of a threat. He needs to be an offtank- his ability to initiate isn't too great because he can't really lock the enemy down like a Guardian could. He's better at running interference but against a full team, he's not going to do anything too special. In other words, he's almost too much of a warrior generalization.
+anonymous panda Same, nobody has came to counter a SWK in any of my games. He's just a much beafier warrior compared to others, just build super tanky, acquire kills. enemy builds pen, I build shield of the underworld.
I was playing Sun Wukong today and I could not even kill Fenrir. He needs a buff because he does not hold up against all the other warriors. I struggle taking down squishy players. I don't want him to be OP, but I'd like him to be playable in competitive fights.
Ask just needs higher actual god damage his issue now isn't wave clear so much its just that he has really bad scalings on his one two and even his basic attacks. I just want him to be able to do high damage if you chose to build that way but right now it doesn't matter how you build he just isn't up to par with any warriors and is just out of place until he gets a significant buff. Just make it so that his one isn't as easy to poke and a buff to the rest of him would do him well
DEER GOD That's not what he asked. he was asking if World Weaver can target him on his Cloud. Which I'm pretty sure it can't since the only ability that can damage a flying god is Fire Shards.
his 3 2 combo does more damage then hercules 2 1 combo. granted he doesnt have the ult that does a billion damage he does have 4 abilities that do damage where herc has 3. i think he under sold his burst damage and definitely needs to watch some glorious smite.
But he still deals a bit less damage than herc's full combo. And that's only if you use tiger form. His abilities are easier to land, though, I'l give you that.
sory for your sickness again but is sugest Zeus will be next or at least after Artemis sence even though lots of people now him and that he is preaty simple when played corectly he is just unstopable nobady really know how to counter him be it some special items or only certen gods can counter him its just that big dam panic that actualy kill you and makes it very easy for Zeus to finish you and if he is comboed whit Odin you are just done cause first Odin ults you then Zeus puts his ult in the cage and you are done no way out of it even if you do blink or jump out of it at the end you just alwais die
What? no. If you jump out fast enough you will not die. If you're in joust with no god that can escape Odin's ult, then your screwed. Happened to me once, it wasn't a pleasant match.
Reavenator well it also depnds on how much healt you had before he Zeus uses his ability if you are a tanker and you are somewhere around full healt then shure you are safe if you are an lets say assassin ho would have not very much healt and is also damged then by by
I hate wukong as a guardian love playing him in solo/jungle but solo especially cause he's next to impossible to gank and people really underestimate the cudgel allowing him to push really hard if played correctly
i think there should be a goku skin goku was based of sun wukong and sun wukong is actually son goku in japanese his abilitys could be 1=powerpole 2=i dont know what his 2 could be 3=super saiyan levels 4=nimbus
***** Fenrir does plentry of damage with his ult. you just need to make it seem like you're killing minions and then dash toward the enemy when they arent expecting it
I play Sun Wukong as a somewhat harasser. I have unfathomable attack speed and crits so that if you want to lane against me, you are going to be at half health in a couple of seconds and ready to be ganked.
Odin has the raw early game burst that can nearly one shot a target, Herc has strong raw damage throughout the whole game regardless of how he's built. Other than that Warriors don't do noteworthy damage. Chaac does a good amount with his axe toss, and Vamana's Armored Umbrella does a good bit and both clear waves decent enough.
I started playing Smite only because of this hero,i admire this character (from the novel or from animations)You have nerfed him too much,his first skill doesn't do much damage as it should.
it can not be just me who thinks that sun wukong is a god counter to tyr in lane( fore he have evasion and the magic cudgel is a pain in the ass to avoid and farm in the same time that and he do have a pain aoe around him so).
Because it makes sense for him to be a guardian who stocks on aura items, if you think about (and all guardians are magical). And besides, I don't see why a god of war needs to be physical.
SWK is only played like a Guardian because he was so horribly nerfed into the ground to where he's a joke elsewhere. And because he's played as a Guardian so much Hi-Rez seems to refuse to let him gain any real solo lane viability again. Really annoying since he should've been designed as a solo god like most Warriors are. And at the end of the day he's still not as good as real Guardians are, so HR pretty much ruined him with the Great Warrior Nerf. The 20% extra damage on minions and such for his 1 was barely anything.
***** But he's a Warrior, not a support. Hi-Rez could've just tweaked his kit, which they did do (removing the knock-up on his 2 and making it a slow), but they overdid it (nerfed the damage on his 1 to where it's more like a wet noodle than anything, and they also nerfed the health regen from his 4), and completely destroyed SWK's ability to really be anything other than a meh-ish Support that's more of a niche favorite than anything now. If anything they should've nerfed his ability to be a support and then balance him around the solo lanes, like all Warriors *should* be, because Guardians are the ones who are more designed around the support role.
Why is when HiRez nerfs a god, everyone thinks they aren't viable in their roles? SWK is a damn good solo. He has enough wave clear to keep his tower from being pushed. He has enough poke to hurt the enemy enough for them to return home, then he can push their tower with his wave. He has an escape, a heal, a distraction, and damage. Yes, he was nerfed, but that does not mean he cannot be a great warrior. Along with his good solo laning, he can also be played as a guardian and a jungler. He is very versatile. He is basically Thor with a different kit.
Yes Sun Wukong needs a buff, i'd say his 1 is the worst problem for him, and i can comfirm this, since I main him, and I go full damage most of the time and STILL do little to no dmg with his "wet noodle" xD And it bothers me alot that he only has his ult to heal up a bit, when other warriors like tyr have a great spamable ability to heal up. I can't remember how much heal % he had in his ult be4 the nerf, but now it's standing at 25%, wich most of the time isn't enough.
+XCVI Ghost well, yeah League of Legends developers often take inspiration from mythology, for instance from the chinese God Sun Wukong... Or Nasus, in his Lore, more or less is Osiris.
vulcan doesn't have that solid kill potential I find though. He really needs his teammates to back him up cause his pants is always down to any warriors/assassins.
Desynchronizer Slows aren't hard cc. Hard CC is: Banish, Disorient, Grab, Intoxication, Knockback, Knockup, Madness, Mesmerize, Pull, Silence, Stun, Taunt. Soft CC (Which doesn't kill his clone instantly) is: Blind, Cripple, Root, Slow, Reduce attack speed, Tremble. Source: smite.gamepedia.com/Crowd_Control
sun wukong is my main. this guy has no idea haha. "poke damage" no burst damage? please. max your transformation and dont miss your tiger. talk to me then
+Adapt Parkour I watched Sun wukong when I was a little kid when I grew up a bit I read the whole novel in straight 2 days. I watched the series at least 20 times so you are not the only one. In fact, he is very popular character in Asia.
+Stone Li Well originally his 2 had knockup in Smite too. But it made him too good as a support at the time and they wanted Guardians to be support, not Warriors...so they removed it.....
Again, this video seemed more about how to play Sun Wukong and less about how to play against him. While I understand that knowing an opponent's strength is important to knowing how to counter him, this video doesn't really offer up many options on how to counter Sun Wukong other than 'stun him'.
yeah they did not mention that you can abuse him after he uses tiger/ox or bird to engage, or how you can predict and dodge his cudgel (by being closer to him and making him have to turn harder), or how to counteract his other abilities or mention how well he works with teammates. I've stated this since episode one. This isn't know your enemy. This is just know a god. They never actually teach you how to fight them... they just teaach about them. Yay... Hasn't listened to us since episode one, he won't listen to us ever.
Well, he did give a few good points on how to avoid taking the full brunt of Anhur's abilities. And some tips on some of the other gods for ways to counter or avoid their attacks. But over all, he's focusing more on how to play the god, rather than how to play against them.
You don't. You can rush a Titan's bane after Warrior Tabi, or a Obsidian Shard after Magi boots if you don't want to stack, or if you or your jungler is Bakasura the true damage helps. Mid game a Weakening Curse stops his heal and makes him easier to kill, but his ult has damage reduction. If you're an assassin with a good hit chain for it like Kali, Qin's Sais will shred him. It's very situational, and if Chaac is allowed to bully you and out farm you your chances of killing him go away. However if he gets bullied his weak wave clear shows as you push minions in, strip gold, and he becomes dead weight.
''Warrior's are jack of all trade they can do things ok but are not great at one thing''
Hercules disagrees
***** Yeah Herc hits soo hard
if you get jotunns and ninja tabi or breastplate tyr has a op 4.8 sec heal
***** hercs too tanky has too much cc, the damage he pumps out too and has a heal so he has cancerous sustain, why does he need to be so overloaded?
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This is infinity times better because Sean Schemmel voices him. Sun Wukong = Son Goku
despite 99% of this video describing how hard it is to kill wukong, I'm pretty sure he still didn't quite describe just how hard it is to kill wukong. :) in all seriousness though, wukong is incredibly difficult to kill.
Whenever I introduce a friend to this game, I always tell them not to waste anything until he uses his 3. Nothing is worse than using an ultimate just to get Nope-birded
MeiaLua trueeeeeee but stil you can ult him all you whant and in the end its just a decoy happend to a few of my friends even thou i was telling them not to attack it but nobody listens :P
MeiaLua Unless you're a burst mage like Anubis who can stun and burn him down, or you can chase with Baka's high movement speed, and Serqets ("fair and balanced") two movement abilities.
lol, i remember i was ra and there was a wukong decoy and i ulted and everything, but i didn't get a kill after it all and i became depressed. D:
Malik hay serqet is fair and balanced i only have 4 out of my 7 quadras with her
RIP trendkill. you shall be missed. thought id leave a comment on my fav god's Know Your Enemy
Sun Wukong and Guan Yu need a slight buff. Their dmg and sustain are the worst amongst warriors. Play them against other warriors like Chaac and Hercules, you're just going to die over and over again.
"Oh wait we have a top pick god, lets nerf him so that he is no longer viable!" - Hirez's logic when nerfing the gods
if that was hi-rez's logic... why do I still see strong hercules's everywhere?
Hercules has never been a top pick in competitive play.
fuck competetive play.
So true! I hope they're planning to buff Sun Wukong and Guan Yu to get them both back to the solo lane!
FalseMaster From Hell
Sun Wukong is still a very solid god.
11:21 we need music from titanic now!
I have to say, I do agree that he is very tanky and I play him as a guardian due to the poke damage. His basics also lack a lot of damage compared to other warriors too.
I don't know about that I use him a lot and he has good damage. I'm able to beat a lot of so called high tier gods with him. They could stand to buff him a bit so that new players can play him more easily.
***** I played him for a good amount of time and I felt he was very heavy on defense but not so much on damage, I mean I got a lot of kills but that'd be if my team wasn't stealing.
Goku Well my main build for him is Mystical Mail, Warrior Tabi, Stone of Gaia, Witchblade, Jotuuns' Wrath and Qins' Sai. I mainly used him for solo I never really thought of him as good for support. Maybe I will do jungle.
***** i played him all day every day when he came out, I gotta say his damage now is not even close to what it was before, the nerfs were enough to not make me want to play him again
EKasis Yeah thats how I felt too but I got used to it and was able to make him playable to me at least plus the little buff on his 1 with minions reactions and bonus damage is nice.
The bluestone just made him perfect. Now he is pretty strong for early ganks.
bluestone?
a know your enemy for SWK? Psshh, you're hilarious, Hi-Rez
Relax, they want all gods to be put to Know your enemy. :)
Bring Sun WuKong's partner Zhu Bajie the boar demi-god and Sha Wujing the river demi-god !
yeah!
72 transformations can also be pretty funny when you accidentally use the wrong one. Such as that one time I was trying to get someone in tiger form but accidentally turned into a bird, flew over their head into a tower and was promptly shot.
To be honest, this seems very interesting. I actually play Wukong quite a bit on League of Legends, I like his kit in LoL and this Wukong seems fun to play as too.
I play Sun Wukong alot and I feel that Master's Will needs to get back it's knock up ability. Also I call BS to both Eagle and OX form, because I've been knocked up in Ox form and I've been rooted in Eagle form as well. That being said Sun Wukong can do damage if you give him Critical hit items along with shields this combines quite well with the fact that at Low health he get's the critical hit chance.
I think you got stunned not knocked
This is why every rpg should have son wukong, smite and league already have him but idk why others don't, best god/champion ever :)
I don't like him as a Guardian simply because he has very little peel. In general, he's a bit of a misfit right now, needs a bit of a buff.
I agree, he's not particularly powerful, and still pretty squishy. It's possible to be great with him (as with any god) but as of right now he seems too weak to make him a good pick over a lot of other characters.
joel He was the top pick guardian until they removed the knockup on his 2 and changed it to a slow...
joel I wreck people with him but his early game could be better and buffed to match up better against guys like Hercules.
joel I played a game of siege against a sun wu kong yesterday. He only built Mytical mail, stone of gaia and witchblade for defense items and our team were all damaging gods yet 2v1 they barely killed him.
ElmoePlusTwo Thats part of my build lol. It's Mystical Mail, Warrior Tabi, Stone of Gaia, Witchblade, Jotuun's Wrath and Qins' Sai.
Wha, nuuu, Trend! Goshdarnit, sick again? Aww! Have some cookies. And some tea. And some hugs. Get better soon, buddy! D:
Also, thankies for the video. And props for making it, despite being un-well. Much appreciated.
But he got some hugs... And got sick...
jgostling lol
TK where are you I've been dieing for the gamegasm
Sun Wukong Is So Op Both In Running Away And Killing A Running Player.
Sun wukong is my favourite character
Give us the best warrior in the game back Hirez its been way too long we want it we need it
Used to play SWK all the time. Hi-Rez castrated him though. So, many, nerfs.
Two other things to avoid the tiger. It can be slowed, making it useless. It is hard to hit because you can't make tight circles with it, so if you have move speed make a tight circle and he'll just run around you and miss.
I feel you man, they brought disgrace upon the great monkey king just because he was top pick at tournaments.
GG Low-Rez
I was one of those who played him when his 2 was a knockup instead of a slow
Why does everyone suddenly hate SWK? Just because of his nerf? Remember when Kukulkan got nerfed? His 3 doesn't do as much damage as it used to, yet you still see people wrecking everyone with his ult and his slow. SWK is a damn good solo, jungler, and guardian. Just because he was nerfed does not mean he no longer fits in the role as warrior. He has enough poke to push his lane, and enough clear to keep his lane from being pushed. Take a look at his kit. He has a slow, an escape, a knock up, a damage and a stun, a heal, and a distraction. His kit is everything you need to solo, and more. His slow will, of course, slow his enemies, which could be helpful for him to kill them or to run away from them. His bird is the best way to escape when he's in a bind. His ox is good for team fights. His tiger has high damage and stuns the enemy afterwords, which lets him spam the rest of his abilities on them or lets his teammates go in for the kill. His cloud heals him enough for him to jump back into the fight, or escape if he knows the fight isn't worth it. He also throws down a clone of himself as a distraction. What more could you want in a god? Everyone thinks a warrior has to be invincible. They don't. They need enough poke and wave clear to protect their lane. That is all.
Kuku's 3 is pretty bad now when you compare it to other mages that can do more damage in a similar sized AOE instantly instead of a DOT (scylla, vulcan, agni etc..) his 1 and ult are good but the 3 is really lack luster now...i barely ever see him played anymore. the nerfs were signifigant. SWK isnt as bad as some are making him out to be though i would say he is mid teir... they just took off the knock ups and the ult is really not very good compaired to warriors like vamana and chaac, they took away his balls to an extent.
I diamonded him, playing him more as a cooldown assassin. At max cooldown potential, with that kind of build you can really turn his abilities into real burst damage.
He really, really undersells Wukong's damage, though he just about has it right about his survivability. But that's fine. Better less people know about it so I have an easier time. I'm not that great.
His damage isn't great. His Tiger hurts, but you need to be with someone who can support the not leveling up your clear in Siege, and you need to be a bit bruiserish to initiate in arena or assault while still doing damage. It's not viable at all in conquest.
He needs a small buff.
You just think that. lol. I won't complain.
The fact that his 1 blows? Or just because people are not playing SWK by his strengths?
SangoProductions21 I play WuKong too. His damage is usable, but it's lack luster even by Warrior standards. Any physical god does well with in-hands if you built them that way, and the slow on his two helps,
I do like running Frostbound Hammer WuKong. If the enemy runs you can chase them down and slow them for your team to catch up.
Right now WuKong's is in an awkward spot. He needs a buff to feel satisfying for most, but his skills are too easy to hit to justify one.
SangoProductions21 SWK was nerfed into the ground. Unless you're playing against players who have no idea how to fight SWK and don't build any defense, his damage is pitiful and he's a joke in the solo lane (which is where Warriors SHOULD predominantly be).
this is my personal favorite god
One thing TK didn't mention is the mana cost of masters will. It doesn't go up as you upgrade it, it always stays at 50.
they did that so the nerf to his 1 wouldn't outright kill him but unfortunatly his scaling is better on his 1 for lane clearing and poke.
TK! come back to youtube man, we miss you. trend nation!
I find that wukong is too much of an escape-god to be a tank but at the same time has the crowd control to be one, so I play mostly as a warrior or damage-based god
his cc is not that great but he is a good escapee so that's how i prefer to use him. poke poke poke poke poke poke then kill or run.
TK - the links on the intro section in annotation don't seem to be working for me?
I love him, so op.
I had people tell me that Sun is bad. Sun Wukong has a clear, escape, stun, slow, knock-up, defense and crit steroid, a decoy, invisibility, and a regeneration. I think Sun Wukong is the perfect god for any lane and any role, all Sun needs is a little buff and he would be unstoppable.
Sun Wukong is a good god it depends on how you use/hit or miss your skills and the build you have.
I use ox for minion clearing, its pretty good too
WAIT! He said '' There are not a lot of flying tigers out there'' so that means some flying tigers are still out there!!!!
PUM PUM PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM!!!!
I play him solo or jungle because he can deal so much damage quickly that way and drop 1 or 2 people in the space of about 15 seconds with the correct items.
Did you mentioned constantly anoying damage?
I like to put Deathbringer and Runeforged Hammer on my Wukong. This gives his auto attacks a bit more damage at lvl 20, with his passive's 30% crit chance and 30 extra protections combined with the item's effects. But other than that, I build tanky.
6:56 wtf happened to the siege monster? ._.
I think SWK can be played as an assassin. He can stick to you. If you buy him crits he can burst you down and he can tower dive with almost no penalthy.
Hears comment about Warriors being Jack-Of-All-Trades
Begins to reminisce about the old Warrior Meta
Cry
Being to dream of a time gone by, of the Glory Days of Warriors
I sort of agree that sun wukong doesn't have a whole lot of damage in his kit, but I am never going to forget the game I went as wukong support with the score 18-2-32 and did almost 40k damage that game and had 3rd or 2nd highest damage in the game. Or the arena game I played a week ago and did 35k. Maybe I was really on point those game with landing my skills or the people I was playing against were really bad/ felt sorry for me.
Sun Wukong is a myth, but I wish he was REAL!!!
In China we believe he real just as all the heaven people like his master
+TheChineseGamer dont let the communist party hear that XD btw how are you on youtube if your in china? XD
moved to america
I'd say Vulcan is the undisputed king of annoying poke. Damn meatballs.
Also never underestimate Masters wills ability to stop pursuit on low health allies, I've saved many a mage from auto attack beat-downs with this.
Please do Thanatos
He only does the gods on the free rotation. So when thanatos comes back on the rotation he will show case him.
I know they already changed sun wukong once from an assassin to warrior but they should change it back and buff his damage Because his gank ability with his tiger form is amazing
To me, Sun is only worth having around if there's an actual guardian on your team. Sun is fairly tanky and good at escapes, but I don't find his damage or cc all that much of a threat. He needs to be an offtank- his ability to initiate isn't too great because he can't really lock the enemy down like a Guardian could. He's better at running interference but against a full team, he's not going to do anything too special. In other words, he's almost too much of a warrior generalization.
wait you dont feel like getting out of your sweatpants so we cant see your face? But we dont see your sweatpants anyways.
Who is Sun WuKong rival?
+Jeffers Kohr Vamana Prince of all giant babies.
+Michael Eshleman i know this was 2 mounts ago....
everybody is his rival cause he started a war vs everybody (if god reveal lore is accurate)
+anonymous panda Same, nobody has came to counter a SWK in any of my games. He's just a much beafier warrior compared to others, just build super tanky, acquire kills. enemy builds pen, I build shield of the underworld.
I was playing Sun Wukong today and I could not even kill Fenrir. He needs a buff because he does not hold up against all the other warriors. I struggle taking down squishy players. I don't want him to be OP, but I'd like him to be playable in competitive fights.
Ask just needs higher actual god damage his issue now isn't wave clear so much its just that he has really bad scalings on his one two and even his basic attacks. I just want him to be able to do high damage if you chose to build that way but right now it doesn't matter how you build he just isn't up to par with any warriors and is just out of place until he gets a significant buff. Just make it so that his one isn't as easy to poke and a buff to the rest of him would do him well
Odin would be a nice way to go for next episode after Artemis. Tired of seeing people use his ult on one enemy who has a leap.
Sun Wukong is my favourite God..
me too
too
+Yusuf Gazi me too
Fourth for me... Ares is 1, Jing Wei is 2, Thanatos is 3
Does nieth's ult work on sun wukong when he is in his eagle form?
It's a stun. Watch the video again and answer that yourself.
DEER GOD That's not what he asked. he was asking if World Weaver can target him on his Cloud. Which I'm pretty sure it can't since the only ability that can damage a flying god is Fire Shards.
World weaver can hit anyone u can target with it which is usually anyone someone on ur team can see excluding some special situations like thor ulting
AthenaWhisper "Does nieth's ult work on sun wukong when he is in his eagle form?"
Eagle form means eagle form.
AthenaWhisper hehe..sry. i ddint ask this. I asked about the eagle form only. :)
his 3 2 combo does more damage then hercules 2 1 combo. granted he doesnt have the ult that does a billion damage he does have 4 abilities that do damage where herc has 3. i think he under sold his burst damage and definitely needs to watch some glorious smite.
But he still deals a bit less damage than herc's full combo. And that's only if you use tiger form. His abilities are easier to land, though, I'l give you that.
If i have heavy hammer does the decoy slow enemys
Good question, but I'm pretty sure the decoy does not proc on-hit effects... I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Can you do geb?
forgot to mention that ult effects 72 transformation CD
Were Sun Wukong removed???
That ending :D
sory for your sickness again but is sugest Zeus will be next or at least after Artemis sence even though lots of people now him and that he is preaty simple when played corectly he is just unstopable nobady really know how to counter him be it some special items or only certen gods can counter him its just that big dam panic that actualy kill you and makes it very easy for Zeus to finish you and if he is comboed whit Odin you are just done cause first Odin ults you then Zeus puts his ult in the cage and you are done no way out of it even if you do blink or jump out of it at the end you just alwais die
What? no. If you jump out fast enough you will not die.
If you're in joust with no god that can escape Odin's ult, then your screwed.
Happened to me once, it wasn't a pleasant match.
Reavenator well you may escape at really low healt but then if the ult if Zeus also struck you all Zeus needs to is click buton 3 boom you dead
Alpha PHENIX By "fast enough" I meant after the first / second bolt.
That's not enough to kill anyone, unless Zeus is heavily fed.
Reavenator well it also depnds on how much healt you had before he Zeus uses his ability if you are a tanker and you are somewhere around full healt then shure you are safe if you are an lets say assassin ho would have not very much healt and is also damged then by by
I hate wukong as a guardian love playing him in solo/jungle but solo especially cause he's next to impossible to gank and people really underestimate the cudgel allowing him to push really hard if played correctly
i think there should be a goku skin goku was based of sun wukong and sun wukong is actually son goku in japanese his abilitys could be
1=powerpole
2=i dont know what his 2 could be
3=super saiyan levels
4=nimbus
I want sun wukong to get the knock up on his 2 back.
I watched KYE #1 I begun to play Neith. I watched this film , I begun to play Sun W.
NO BURST DAMAGE????
tiger...fully level early game...enemy dead.
***** if you're smart you only use your tiger when you're close to the enemy or when you are chasing someone.
when u transform the enemy also needs some time to know where he needs to go.
the closer u are, the more chance to hit it
***** Fenrir does plentry of damage with his ult. you just need to make it seem like you're killing minions and then dash toward the enemy when they arent expecting it
Wukong OP
Noo His Glorious Beautiful face its gone NUuuuuuuuuuu
Buff his 2 damage a slight bit and buff his basic attacks a bit and I would assume he'd be balanced.
what is utility?
I play Sun Wukong as a somewhat harasser. I have unfathomable attack speed and crits so that if you want to lane against me, you are going to be at half health in a couple of seconds and ready to be ganked.
can somebody say which warrior has the most burst damage
Tyr I guess
I think Odin.
warriors dont have burst budd
Odin has the raw early game burst that can nearly one shot a target,
Herc has strong raw damage throughout the whole game regardless of how he's built.
Other than that Warriors don't do noteworthy damage. Chaac does a good amount with his axe toss, and Vamana's Armored Umbrella does a good bit and both clear waves decent enough.
Odin
I started playing Smite only because of this hero,i admire this character (from the novel or from animations)You have nerfed him too much,his first skill doesn't do much damage as it should.
it can not be just me who thinks that sun wukong is a god counter to tyr in lane( fore he have evasion and the magic cudgel is a pain in the ass to avoid and farm in the same time that and he do have a pain aoe around him so).
question artemis godess of hunt and is a hunter isis goddess of magic and is a mage ares god of war ai'nt even a warrior :[
Because it makes sense for him to be a guardian who stocks on aura items, if you think about (and all guardians are magical).
And besides, I don't see why a god of war needs to be physical.
pfft i mean change his kit keep his ult
make him the strongest if not top tier of warriors as artemis and isis are top tier of mages
i used thor's tectonic rift that worked out
omg warriors are so good. i play solo and warriors make my match. i like sun wukong with mystic mail against adc. too much fun
SWK is only played like a Guardian because he was so horribly nerfed into the ground to where he's a joke elsewhere. And because he's played as a Guardian so much Hi-Rez seems to refuse to let him gain any real solo lane viability again. Really annoying since he should've been designed as a solo god like most Warriors are. And at the end of the day he's still not as good as real Guardians are, so HR pretty much ruined him with the Great Warrior Nerf. The 20% extra damage on minions and such for his 1 was barely anything.
*****
But he's a Warrior, not a support. Hi-Rez could've just tweaked his kit, which they did do (removing the knock-up on his 2 and making it a slow), but they overdid it (nerfed the damage on his 1 to where it's more like a wet noodle than anything, and they also nerfed the health regen from his 4), and completely destroyed SWK's ability to really be anything other than a meh-ish Support that's more of a niche favorite than anything now.
If anything they should've nerfed his ability to be a support and then balance him around the solo lanes, like all Warriors *should* be, because Guardians are the ones who are more designed around the support role.
Why is when HiRez nerfs a god, everyone thinks they aren't viable in their roles? SWK is a damn good solo. He has enough wave clear to keep his tower from being pushed. He has enough poke to hurt the enemy enough for them to return home, then he can push their tower with his wave. He has an escape, a heal, a distraction, and damage. Yes, he was nerfed, but that does not mean he cannot be a great warrior. Along with his good solo laning, he can also be played as a guardian and a jungler. He is very versatile. He is basically Thor with a different kit.
***** But... I thought the point of Smite was to do every single thing the pros did so you can be good? My life is a lie! .-. lol
Yes Sun Wukong needs a buff, i'd say his 1 is the worst problem for him, and i can comfirm this, since I main him, and I go full damage most of the time and STILL do little to no dmg with his "wet noodle" xD And it bothers me alot that he only has his ult to heal up a bit, when other warriors like tyr have a great spamable ability to heal up. I can't remember how much heal % he had in his ult be4 the nerf, but now it's standing at 25%, wich most of the time isn't enough.
Is that fuckin wukong?!
+XCVI Ghost well, yeah League of Legends developers often take inspiration from mythology, for instance from the chinese God Sun Wukong... Or Nasus, in his Lore, more or less is Osiris.
+Elandrianthetrue This is a Smite video......
DinoRanger 1259
this is a discussion about a champion and a god...
The king of the annoying poke Dmg is Vulcan and his Damn meatball (magma bomb)
vulcan is probably the the most op mage imo
vulcan doesn't have that solid kill potential I find though. He really needs his teammates to back him up cause his pants is always down to any warriors/assassins.
What I hate about Vulcan is that the meatball is a knock up and a stun which is BS
What is hard cc?
Hard Crowd Control. Stuns, Roots, stuff like that.
strong crowd control, stuns, slows etc. basically anything that effect enemies in a negative way.
Desynchronizer Slows aren't hard cc.
Hard CC is: Banish, Disorient, Grab, Intoxication, Knockback, Knockup, Madness, Mesmerize, Pull, Silence, Stun, Taunt.
Soft CC (Which doesn't kill his clone instantly) is: Blind, Cripple, Root, Slow, Reduce attack speed, Tremble.
Source: smite.gamepedia.com/Crowd_Control
Jimmy0442 you said slow is hard cc too :D
Miguel Souza no he said slow was soft cc
i doing the build full critic and atack speed and he is the best god for me but in conquist go junlge no solo because is shit much chaacs
SWUKONG!
Do ,,How to know your enemy - Freya"
sun wukong is my main. this guy has no idea haha. "poke damage" no burst damage? please. max your transformation and dont miss your tiger. talk to me then
yeah but his problem is that his tiger is bound to his escape.
and his slow, or ult doesn't help with escaping?
oh no its not that in fact its why he is such a pain to kill. He can tank your burst then just walk away.
Lol, How many people I've killed with my Decoy.
am i the only one who knew about wukong outside of games?
+Adapt Parkour Nope. OOOOOOH FLYING NIMBUS!!!!!
+Adapt Parkour I watched Sun wukong when I was a little kid when I grew up a bit I read the whole novel in straight 2 days. I watched the series at least 20 times so you are not the only one. In fact, he is very popular character in Asia.
pls change his 2 back to knock up plsssss
Like League?
+Stone Li Well originally his 2 had knockup in Smite too. But it made him too good as a support at the time and they wanted Guardians to be support, not Warriors...so they removed it.....
I really miss TK
yes, art is next :)
Again, this video seemed more about how to play Sun Wukong and less about how to play against him. While I understand that knowing an opponent's strength is important to knowing how to counter him, this video doesn't really offer up many options on how to counter Sun Wukong other than 'stun him'.
yeah they did not mention that you can abuse him after he uses tiger/ox or bird to engage, or how you can predict and dodge his cudgel (by being closer to him and making him have to turn harder), or how to counteract his other abilities or mention how well he works with teammates.
I've stated this since episode one. This isn't know your enemy. This is just know a god. They never actually teach you how to fight them... they just teaach about them. Yay...
Hasn't listened to us since episode one, he won't listen to us ever.
Well, he did give a few good points on how to avoid taking the full brunt of Anhur's abilities. And some tips on some of the other gods for ways to counter or avoid their attacks. But over all, he's focusing more on how to play the god, rather than how to play against them.
So basically you are saying swk sucks at killing anything unless you are completely caught out. Bright side is that you take forever to kil -.-
You can actualy use him as an assassin
i wont to know how to kill chaak please
*want *chaac probably the first thing to understand the character is his name :)
You don't.
You can rush a Titan's bane after Warrior Tabi, or a Obsidian Shard after Magi boots if you don't want to stack, or if you or your jungler is Bakasura the true damage helps.
Mid game a Weakening Curse stops his heal and makes him easier to kill, but his ult has damage reduction.
If you're an assassin with a good hit chain for it like Kali, Qin's Sais will shred him.
It's very situational, and if Chaac is allowed to bully you and out farm you your chances of killing him go away. However if he gets bullied his weak wave clear shows as you push minions in, strip gold, and he becomes dead weight.
Hirez should really buff Sun Wukong, at least a bit. And nerf Hercules in the way.
awe poor hel
I love Chinese Gods.ขอบคุณ
Wait did he say Wukong was a guardian... I have not seen one successful Wukong guardian.
Sorry i wasn't very clear what i meant was that he is a trash support
it is supposed to be pronounced as soon wu kong and not sun wu kong but it is spelled as sun wu kong