Wild Camp French Cuisine and Plans for 2020
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- Peak District wild camp in January overlooking the city of Sheffield.
A three course french style meal comprising of tiger prawns, tuna steak and creme brulee, and of course plenty of wine.
Later on in the video we will have a look at what videos I have planned for 2020
An inspiration ! I’m just an old guy looking to have a bit fun before dementia or the grim reaper come for me, and your videos make me want to just go do it . Thank you 👍
I,am just a old guy wandering the hills of Sheffield, would,nt have it any other way, thanks Pat
Don't wait for either dementia or the grim reaper. They can wait. It's none of their business anyway. It's YOURS. Just go ahead and do it.
Thanks Pat for all your vids. You've taken them to a new level in 2020 with a drone ! That certainly makes your vids a lot more enjoyable and interesting. All the best.
Patrick you are forever young.you will school the grim reaper.lot of youth out there could not explain your lifestyle,let alone exercise it.respect pat!!
I'm at the Beatles song age, you are never too old to have fun in the wild !
You should get a TV program Pat.
Your an excellent presenter . Like the Michael Palin of wild camping.
Superb video as usual.
Your a Legend
You can see would be a natural "Made for Television"
Thanks Ian very kind of you to say, may stick with retirement though, all the best Pat
Patrick Dickinson Pat reminds me more of a Michael Clegg and Cleggs world presenter if you remember his programs
I could watch him all day
Michael Palin is also a Sheffield lad, just like Patrick and I 👍🏻
The drone gives a much greater overall impression of the area - great video Pat!
Yes really impressed with the footage, thanks Pat
Agreed that opening drone tracking shot was brilliant.
Who's flying the drones ? Perhaps you have a friend in intelligence who says they work for goggle
@@chrisbodum3621 hi Chris, it's so clever it flies itself, then comes back for new instructions, they will be taking over soon, Pat
Just sitting here at home in France remembering how I watched this the first time round with all your plans for the following months.....Who'd have thought how bizarre our lives would become. I'm sure a lot of us would happily return to the days when that fantastic tent was new. Thanks Pat.
Hi Richard, lovely to hear from you, I had so many plans back then, Last march 2020, I had a flight booked for berlin, at 2-00 in the mornimhg due to a few cases of covid in Germany i deceided not to go, little did I think 15 months later I havbe not ventured out of my local area....unbelievable....all the best Pat
Brilliant start to the new year Pat you've certainly brightened my day.
Tony Thomason good job 👍
That's great, and all the best for the coming year, thanks Pat
Perhaps 2021 might start off better!
Oh good, I haven't commented on this vid yet! Lol. Gotta say, just came from your "The Pleasures of Drinking" video for about the 12 time. (I usually tune in when I'm enjoying a few glasses of wine.) At any rate, gotta love prawns, but those beady little black eyes staring back from the cooking pot was a little disconcerting... Lol 👍 😆
Hi there, yes loved the French camp, basically it was a excuse to enjoy some nice French food and drink....nice to share a few glasses of wine..... thanks Pat 👍
"so I shall have to eat both of them"! great work pat, looked a great night.
Yes somtimes you, ve just got to go that extra bit, great camp, thanks Pat
Hi Pat, brilliant addition the new drone. Also great to see the good old faithful tent is making a significant return! Ta Paul B
Amazing that drone, far more clever than me, be using it a lot more, thanks Pat
Always look forward to a notification saying Patrick Dickinson has just uploaded a video, good stuff as always pat x
Thanks Shelly, nice of you to say, thanks Pat
Fantastic pat yum yum lol . Just about two make my tea. Great tent mate take it easy on the wine 🍷 man lol . Great stuff pat looking forward too much more this year. Wild camping get out there 👍⛺️🍷
Hi Alan yes nothing beats a night out wild camping, such a great pastime, all the best Pat
Hi Patrick, your videos are fantastic. Looking forward to see what you get up to in 2020. I was born in Halifax but my family emigrated to Australia when I was 7. Seeing what the countryside looks like in that part of England is great. Thank you for still getting out there and capturing it all on video.
Hi Richard, living only half an hour from this beautiful area we sort of take it for granted, a bit of your sun and temperatures would be nice though, all the best Pat
I know I'm late to the French party, but great to watch. November 2020 here in lock down. Perfect video to watch. Brilliant Patrick.
Thanks Gareth, love French food so why not on a wildcamp, a bit short of wine, but I will remember that for next time, all the best Pat
Love those tracking shots from the drone, and the circulating one, the technology at our fingertips these days is fantastic isn't it.
All the best for 2020, looking forward to some great videos Pat!
David, I still can,t get my head round how clever that little drone is and only done a few of its features, amazing bit of kit, thanks Pat
Great vid to start the year Pat! I wish you a very adventurous and healthy 2020. You deserve it!
For some reason in the video it dawned on me that you’re alone talking to the camera and not us! You’re a natural presenter!
Thanks looking forward to 2020, and I feel I, am talking to my viewer's all the time, thanks Pat
It's great to see you out and looking healthy, the King prawns looked amazing Pat.
I look forward to your adventures for 2020.💯🚶🚶
Should be a good year Dan, all the best Pat
Looking forward to the tree camping. The apparatus you handmade was incredible. Looking forward to all your upcoming content, whatever it may be over 2020 👍😎👍MDS
Thanks Mark, yes really look forward to getting back up in the trees, all the best Pat
"Hi There"
Pat. Happy new year and good health. A cracking camp with French cooking or should I say Cuisine? Hope your plans come to pass, I'm also hoping to travel this year but on my Royal Enfield. May even get over to Sweden.
Looking forward to following your adventure. Best of luck.. now, wait for it...................." Bye then" :)
Sandy
Wiltshire Man is our other hero!!!
Hi Sandy, you took the words straight out of my mouth, we must all sort of develop our own style, once I did, nt say "Hi" and so many people commented on it, so yes always use it now
Looking forward to this year's adventures, and I,ll be interested to see where you get to on, Chug, .... Bye then, all the best Pat
@@pauljones5066 Absolute true story mate!!! Masters at work and they got more tech savvy than some nippers!!
@@patrickdickinson6492 Have you and Sandy ( Wiltshire Man ) ever been out together on a meet? That, my friend, would be a fab video!!
Outstanding once again Patrick. I don't think there is a channel whose videos I look forward to as much as yours. Thank you for all your content.
Thank you very kind of you to say, thanks Pat
Great to see you out again. Looking forward to your adventures in 2020. Always entertaining. Best wishes.
Thanks Steve, great to be out, thanks Pat
Brilliant pat . Always look forward to your videos. Favourite one is the pub one in Sheffield.
Stuart Johnson that is a genuine classic 😂
Thanks Stuart, was a good one, all the best Pat
Great to have you back for 2020. My friend and I are covering some of your wild camps we are from rotherham . Both have heart problems and are inspired by you. Would love to do a wild one with you. Best wishes Simon and Michael.
Hi Simon, worked for YEB in Rotherham for 10 years now the area and villages well, glad your enjoying your camping, all the best Pat
Thankyou so much pat for your response. Hopefully of to bleaklow for a wild camp at the weekend. Great photography I hope as well as a nice cold one too. I love to cook when I'm out like you do. I'm thinking an Indian themed meal with a few chillies in it to keep us nice and warm. Please keep in touch. All the very best to you my friend. Simon
Patrick, you are the master of wild camping, enjoy all you’re vids, thanks for the entertainment mate!
Your very welcome Stuart, all the best Pat
Loving the drone footage - does it track you? Amazing. Love the views - brings your vids to a new level (quite literally!)
Yes Phil, it's very clever it can follow, fly in front or at the side filming all the time, and that's just one of its many features, amazing, thanks Pat
I have always loved your rail travel trips along with your wild camps old mate ,am excited to view some travelogues in the very near future
Thanks Daveo, hoping to combine a bit of rail travel with some flights to get me out there, all the best Pat
you should have taken an accordion and a mademoiselle up there with you!! and some Napoleon brandy! great Patrick! I am really looking forward to your European rail trips as the last 2 were really excellent
Hi Paul the mademoiselle and brandy sound a great idea, not sure about the accordion, looking forward to rail trips myself, all the best Pat
Great drone footage at the start, thanks for my trip to France.
Gutted for you having to eat 2 creme brulles, such a pain, 😁
Real nice tent with plenty of room.Top quality film pat, most enjoyable. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Wayneo, yes could of been in France, will bring more wine next time, think I, am due for a camp up Kinder soon, thanks Pat
Happy New year and thank you for another great video, Pat. This has made my Friday night. Being from South Yorkshire but now living in Korea your videos make me home sick but in a happy way. Please keep up with the content . Would love to see a rail trip. Good health and best wishes. Tom
Hi Tom, glad my videos keep you in touch with your home country, hoping to get on the European railway network later in the year, thanks Pat
Revisiting Pat's video's a source of consolation during lockdown.. How could all our plans for 2020 have changed so dramatically. All the best for 2021 Pat and everyone who loves his video's.
Thanks Paul, yes could not believe how my plans for last year changed, only planning a couple of months ahead at the moment, all the best Pat
Always a great day when a PD video appears. That drone looks the biz Pat, any chance of making a review. I'm thinking of buying one. Who Dares Wins!
Hi Chris still learning with the drone, but perhaps review later, amazing piece of kit, all the best Pat
Great little wild camp and the dinner looked lovely thanks for the adventure .
Yes really nice night in the hills, thanks Pat
You inspire me Patrick. I resurrected my 30 year-old Macpac Olympus tent. I’m planning a motorbike camping tour around the North & maybe the South Island of NZ in Feb/March. After watching this I might leave my dried food packets behind & buy fresh food at a supermarket for the evening meal (:
Sounds a great trip Mike, fresh food always best to eat, but dehydrated has its place for convenience and ease use it myself, all the best Pat
Another top video Pat, Im recovering from back surgery after a yacht race injury last year and watching yours and other guys Camping and similar vids have really helped get me through things. Cant wait for the spring/summer and hopefully be fit enough to get back out there myself! Keep up the good work......
Thanks Rob, sorry to hear about the back injury, give you plenty of time to get your bear together and plan a few trips, all the best Pat
Can we please get a T-shirt printed with “Luckily, Sheffield doesn’t have bears” 😂
Could be a money maker, haha, all the best Pat
I can't stop thinking about the T-shirt idea!!!!! What a LEGEND this guy is!
@@patrickdickinson6492 id buy one pat . . . your a Sheffield hero
Believe it or not, just down the road from Pats camp is a pub that dates back hundreds of years called the hammer and pincers. It used to be a blacksmith s until it became a pub in 1750. Bear baiting took place in what is now the beer garden until the landlord was mauled by a bear and he put an end to it.
I dont bother much with other camping vids now I have discovered your channel. Love the dry humour and the quality filming
That's really nice of you to say, welcome to my channel, thanks Pat
Well Patrick the intro was amazing with the drone footage. yet another great video and some great ideas. Happy new year to you :) by the way what is the model of your drone?
Hi Lee, yes really gives a new dimension to the ares I camp in, my drone is a Mavic Air, cost a fortune but such a amazing piece of equipment, would not be without it now, thanks Pat
That view of city is brilliant, worth camping out just for that 👍
Yes great view from up there, thanks Pat
great vid as always pat watching from sunny matlock in wetherspoons.
Is that near the bus station, will have to pay Matlock a visit in summer I think to sample the beer, all the best Pat
@@patrickdickinson6492 yes had a couple of nice beers 5.9% and 6.1% only £2.15 a pint as well,look forward to your next one all the best.
A top watch as always Patrick. Looking forward to more mate
Thanks Steve
Wonderful adventure. So glad you took us along. It was amazing. Take care.
Lovely to have you along Marsha, great location, thanks Pat
The view from your tent porch is quite nice. I hope you had a good wild camp.
Great views from up there, thanks Pat
It all looks so simple, but we all know that behind the camera, there’s been a great deal of planning and thought gone into your presentation. Thanks for sharing your trip above Sheffield. I’ve read all the comments so far and agree with them all. What more can I say.
Thanks for your comments, much appreciated, and yes people do leave such nice comments, thanks Pat
Superb as always Patrick, what lovley spot that was and the prawns looked amazing ! , all the best for the year ahead I will be sure to tune in!
Thanks Lee, yes lovely spot with great views, thanks Pat
Fascinating and entertaining once again Patrick.You're right about those Victorian tunnels and drains: it's the history of them, and the people who built them, that makes them so interesting I think.Looking forward to more films certainly. Best wishes, Martin.
Thanks Martin, yes amazing places these Victorian wonders, all the best Pat
Thanks for sharing your adventures
Looking forward to a belter year
Thanks Jolene, should be a good one, thanks Pat
I can watch this, as I am doing so, time and time again. Cheers Pat.
Fantastic once again, love the follow me shots. Great stuff keep on camping.
Thanks Martin, very pleased with the drone, thanks Pat
Lovely video Pat ! Really enjoyed it mate and look forward to your 2020 adventures . Ps ... deffo more wine next time 👍🏻
Yes big mistake, wine box next time, all the best Pat
Great stuff Pat mate and do like the tunnel and the canal explores, Lady bower was fascinating. Keep up the good work and i'll keep watching 👍 Take care mate. Cheers Tony
Thanks Tony, should be a interesting year, all the best Pat
Love these vlogs of yours pat,spent the last two weeks watching all of them,great dry sense of humour as well,from a owner of another pub shed which I built five years ago,called the Lancaster ! Come into it’s own during lockdown 🤪
Yes the pub shed is the best thing I have ever built, really comes in useful with lockdown.
In fact it is a very dangerous place, once we entre you know you are not going to get back out for along time, sometimes as long as 8 to 10 hours, all the best Pat
Very professional in use of all equipment. Nicely paced, interesting delivery. Thanks for taking us along with you! Loved the last tunnel and camps.
Thank you Andrew, very kind comments, thanks Pat
I sore your new video pop up on my phone at work and couldn’t wait to get home to watch it. I’m still going back to your older videos to watch again like Winter woodland wild camp and Spring camp turns into winter camp and many more. In a way I’m glad you don’t add annoying music throughout your videos great at the start and end but Just listening to you and the natural sounds of the environment is what’s it’s all about. Love your cooking on remote camp sites.
Very nice comments there which I thank you for, its good to have a record of my camping trips, good for me to look back at as well, all the best Pat
As always a great heart felt video
Thanks Wayne, kind of you to say, thanks Pat
Great to see you on another wild camp Pat in your local stomping ground 👍 Here’s to many more adventures for 2020 🍻 ATB Jason.
Thanks Jason, going to be a busy year, looking forward to it, thanks Pat
Yet another great video Pat.... I was up there last night, (21st) and I will never tire of just sitting there looking at the city.with the tranquility of being out on the moors.
Such a great location looking over the city, bit cool I would imagine, thanks Pat
Not too bad in all fairness.. Once in the sleeping bag I was wearing just t-shirt and boxers.... Like a hot potato... ATB Si.
Great video and drone footage Pat. We are off to Melbourne from Beauchief on Monday au revoir mon ami.
Hope you enjoyed your time here, have a good journey, all the best Pat
Only just come across your channel and you have warmed my soul. I think I love you! Going to binge watch the rest now. Thank you xx
Lovely to have you along Ceri, hope to keep you entertained throughout the year, thanks Pat
I can honestly say that was the fastest 37:41 l have watched... so very enjoyable to see you in the wild camping and fixing such great food!!! You are an inspiration to many viewers and l hope most of us take your lead and get out there and enjoy life!!! You only go around once!!! Can not wait til the next adventure Pat.. stay in good health and march on my friend...Paul
Thanks Paul very kind and thoughtful comments, yes we have all got to make good use of all out time, looking forward to 2020, thanks Pat
F&T were a great company back in the day - I had some superb gear from them years ago. Owned by Sports Direct now though, so focus of the company has changed. All the best for 2020 and look forward to your future reports - always entertaining. Phil
Thanks Phil, yes agree it was a great company in those early days, thanks Pat
Hi Pat, not many people would enjoy sitting in an old railway tunnel on a wet and windy day!
You're one in a million!
I mean that in a nice way lol.
Can,t think of anything better, it can do all it wants outside, in side its dry calm and peaceful, thanks Pat
The landscape looks even better with the camera drone Pat. Good vid anyway.
Yes Tom really pleased with the drone, gives a great view of the area and such good footage, thanks Pat
Love it, love it, love it. Once again a great video Pat.
Nice of you to say Steve, all the best Pat
You are an absolute legend, your videos are inspirational and I laugh out loud at your love of beer and wine, well done love it
Thanks Simon, thats really nice to hear, thanks Pat
Another Great video Pat, I think you have found a style and format that suits you well. I must admit I constantly check for a new video and always enjoy whatever shenanigans you get up to :) looking forward to more of this over the coming months. You could teach the professionals a thing or 2 about presenting, keep up the good work! As others have commented the drone footage adds an extra dimension and perspective, love it!
Thanks Mark, very kind comments which I thank you for, really impressed with the drone and looking forward to using it on future videos, thank you, Pat
Wonderful video as always! That tuna looked wonderful. Greetings from Nashville,Tennessee USA.
Music, that's all I can think of with Nashville, thanks for the kind comments, thanks Pat
Welcome to Camping with Keith Floyd! Great to watch as always Pat, just shows what can be done if we give ourselves a bit of a kick up the backside. Keep on camping, keep on cooking the good stuff.
Love cooking meals like these out in the wilds, surprising what you an prepare, thanks Pat
Love the drone views,Nice video again,well done Pat.Be Blessed.
Thanks Zdenek
Happy new year Patrick - more wine is always a good idea, perhaps not while tree camping - Hic
Yes probably a wine box next time, haha, thanks Pat
Thanks for the forecast of the year to come, looking forward to.the adventures. Great view over Sheffield, there is nothing like the twinkling lights at night over your home town. Take care!
Thanks and yes should be a great year, thanks Pat
You’re always very watchable Pat - especially when you’re a bit merry! The new drone shots are a great addition. I admire you for going to the effort of cooking all that fancy French cuisine when you’re wild camping - I’ll stick with chicken flavoured super noodles for now! 🤣 Looking forward to watching many more of your adventures in 2020. “See you in a bit..” Atb, David
Thanks David, love the challenge of producing a ni e meal with a small stove, some great adventures planned for this year, thanks Pat
Love your wild cams with cooking mate, stay safe.
Thanks kind of you to say, Pat
Here’s to 20 20 and hoping it’s your best Yet Patrick
Love the variety of your videos and canna beat a 40 year old tent ⛺️💖
Thanks Michael, yes I think 2020 is going to be a good year, all the best Pat
Watching this now, it was so sad listening to your hopes and plans for this year, brought a tear to my eye. But just think, you would have done it all by now yet, you still have them all to look forward to. Lovely video Pat. Take care.
Thanks Andrew, I bet alot of other people have bigger plans messed up, roll on next year, or later ! ..... thanks Pat
Really enjoyed that Pat, sort of a mix of Keith Floyd and Jack Hargreaves 😂 excellent Pat.
Thanks Mark, yes a good comparison, thanks Pat
Well said. Not Floyd's wine ever got in the food though 😄
Look forward to more of your videos in 2020 Patrick. If they are anything like your past videos we have such delights to look forward to. All the best to you 👍
Thanks Rich, nice of you to say, looking forward to this year, all the best Pat
Thank you, Pat, for those spectacular views of the Peak District, far far away from the world of the fake and the make believe! Looking at the magnificence of nature is so good for the soul. So are a few glasses of wine . . .
Looking forward to 2020's adventures, thanks, Rosie
Hi Rosie beautiful up there with fantastic views, you don, t really need anything else, but it's nice to have a few glasses of wine, all the best Pat
All looks very cozy & you certainly cook & eat well. Yummy. The drone footage is brilliant adds a whole new dimension to wild camping. All the best for 2020 & your upcoming adventures. Who knows we might see you in South Africa one day. Lol! 🐘🦒🐆.
Wow, don, t think I, ll make it that far, really pleased with the drone, thanks Pat
You make it feel like I'm there with you pal. Keep em coming Patrick.
Suck the heads on ya prawns n all .best bit that.
It feels like you are all with me Tommy, great plans for this year, thanks Pat
you inspire me to Patrick watching for a while now love all your vids you make me want to get up and go i bought the soulo after watching your vids used it last week in the lakes solid tent in wind and rain
all the best to you & your wife for 2020 enjoy your trips where ever they take you love from Liverpool
Nice to hear from you and great that you got a Soulo,, I, am sure you will have some great adventures in it, all the best Pat
Another great video pat love watching them. All the best for 2020 😊
All the best to you for 2020, thanks Pat
Wow! An amazing video Patrick. Your very own portable French restaurant in middle of the Peak District. I'd be tempted to have a glass of three of wine as well, but I'm doing Dry January.
Dry January, never, appreciate the comments, all the best Pat
Such an amazing campsite within a short walk of town. I am more into camping than walking these days. Just to get away for a night. Thanks for the video!
Yes I, a the same, rather camp most of the time, with a little walking, thanks Pat
Bon appetit Patrick, that looked reet good food ! Glad you managed a drink this time, what a top view of the steel City at night. Thanks for the video, and a Very happy and healthy new year to you :)
Thanks kind comments such a great campsite and great view, all the best Pat
Another great video Pat, looking forward to your year of adventures and the videos you post of them, can’t wait to see them 👍
Thanks Keith, going to be a great year, thanks Pat
Hi there Patrick ✌️
We've been missing your videos. Great half hour watch. All the best for your new year 🧡 onwards and upwards 👌🏻👌🏻 take care.
Thanks tend to try and publish every 4 weeks, sometimes the weather can change my plans, all the best Pat
Once again thanks for that Patrick, most enjoyable. Looking forward to your vids for 2020. Very Best Wishes - Jn
Thanks yes looking forward to this coming year myself, all the best Pat
I do enjoy watching your vids. I stopped watching a lot of "bushcraft/camping" channels becuse they turned into outdoor cooking channels. But you show more of what it's like to cook in a tent rather than ephasicing the Food. great stuff. Have a great 2020.👍🏻
Really nice of you to say, love camping, and I love food, all the best Pat
Inspirational once again Patrick.Looking forward to your 2020 adventures.
Thanks kind of you to say, looking forward to this coming year, thanks Pat
Love the drone shots, really done well. Camping, good food doesn’t get much better. Look forward to your future videos this year. Cheers
Thanks Mark yes really impressed with the drone myself, thanks Pat
What wonderful and exciting plans! I enjoy the camping. But, adore the underground explores best! I'm looking forward to new journeys where I accompany you from the comfort of my home. Haha. Thank you for sharing a part of your day with us!
Thanks nice comments, like varying my interests couple of camps then couple of explores, thanks Pat
Another great video Patrick, Tuna looked 👌.
Thanks 👍
So nice to see you out Patrick, looking great, love all you adventures, kept going bud. Atb, Harry
Thanks Harry, up on Kinder Scout soon, all the best Pat
Lots to look forward to in the coming year. Great video. Liked the drone footage too. Especially how you kept it on you all the time. Must be a decent one. All the best for 2020.
Martin
Hi Martin, amazing the drone, can follow me circle me all sorts, all the best Pat
Nice to see out and about good camp nice classic tent too great video as always pat keep up the good work and the cooking
Thanks great camp, I was just in the Yorkshire boundary, all the best Pat
Another great video 👏🏼 , that looks a lovely place to pitch …. Great views from inside your tent 🏕️ 😍 …. Hope you’re well Pat 👍🏼
I,m very well and this campsite I camped at a few years ago has a bit of a following now, it is also known as " Pats Place "....... all the best Pat
Great camp and video Patrick, loved the cooking and the view.
Thanks it is a great location and probably an hour from where I live, all the best Pat
Fast forward to December 20 what a depressing year it's been and can't see 21 being any better fingers crossed another great vid
Thanks Steve,yes an unbelievable year, its got to get better !..... all the best Pat
Great camp , to say your outdoors etc: you eat like a Lord sir,,, you carnt beat a old tent my mate gave me 2 old Ariel tents from the 1970s I still use them today , great stuff atb cag
Yep Paul the old gear is so well made, last a lifetime, thanks Pat
Sheffield must be very proud of you, you are compulsive viewing with a laid back view of the world. Virus or no virus you will be up to your arse in clarts and we will be there every step of the way...many thanks Pat
Hi Ben, I try to take life as it comes and not let anything winds me up, I,am healthy, no worries so class myself as very lucky, I,am glad it comes across in my videos, thanks Pat
@@patrickdickinson6492 your very welcome bonny lad now get your self off to bed
that's a nice tent Pat. I love my Vango Force10 for car camping in summer; says nice and cool in mid summer, and smells amazing :)
Yes Eddie, can, t eat these old tents, all the best Pat
I came across this video by chance . Your impressive use of drone images raises your shared experience to a new level .
As a consequence you have a new Subscriber .
Great to have you a long and thank you for subscribing, the drone really does give a new dimension now, thanks Pat