Join us this Sunday (the 22nd) - We will meet at Nano Cade (23 Ebenezer Pl, Adelaide SA 5000, Australia) at 9:30 for a coffee. We will leave ~10:30 for a 65km ride to Mount Lofty to watch the final 2 laps of the circuit. Then a nice cruisey 20km ride back into town. Potential for a few drinks back in the city if people are keen to hang around.
Hopefully I can join for that coffee & ride. If you have a spot for someone who are still a learner. So missed home & the cycling there...enjoy TDU Cam
Awesome content as always Cam, and 10/10 for inclusivity with the group ride invite mate. Not there this year unfortunately but will be using your template of rinse repeat ride/watch/beers at next year’s TDU hopefully. 👍
Very cool to see the Cycling Maven once again. His channel was my first introduction into the Aussie cycling culture, and I've been envious ever since!
Went in 2018, had a great time in the sweltering heat. We quickly worked out it was an early ride, see the race start, head to the pub, steak, beers, watch the race finish, ride home for an early dinner and repeat. Was the best 7 days of cycling in my life. I even got a faster segment than Thomas degent and andre greipel, so i was stoked. Enjoy the trip mate 👊🍺
Opposing force causes a spiral fracture like this - like when arm wrestlers break humerus. This can start off when (for example) standing on both pedals when you either land hard after jumping over/off something or hit a hard pothole when standing on the pedals. I've seen it twice from the previously mentioned reasons.
Hard hits and landings while standing on the pedals is common in MTB and I have never experienced or heard about someone experiencing that issue. Maybe the axles in Shimano MTB cranks are stronger?
From the victim of the cracked spindle (me). It was D/A 9150 / Stages Gen 3. It was housed in a Wheels Manufacturing Outboard BBright > Shimano in a Cervelo S5. The BB setup probably eliminates the possibility of internal cable interference and misalignment. I will be expecting a replacement from the online retailer who sold it to me 12 months ago. Otherwise Shimano will have hell to pay from me.
They should have made a bit thicker walls and this wouldn't have happened. Seems like a major design flaw, as many people in the comments point to similar experiences. What a bummer. I will now be extra cautious when accelerating on the descends/oncoming traffic. Good thing you are okay.
A friend at work snapped Ultergra crankset spindle. Usuallly the crack is in a wave pattern. He narrowly avoided a crash since he was off sadlle when the spindle gave in.
Had the same happen on my SRAM Red 2 years ago. Took a bad tumble, luckily it happened so quickly I didn't have time to react and hurt too much. Broke my helmet too. Edit: I should add that SRAM EU's support and action in replacing the drive-train was exemplary. In retrospect, there had been warning creaks that I just put down to a bad BB. Worth checking yourself if you have an untraceable creak...
Very nice. Never snapped a single 1 of my solid steel cranks yet :O If you're hanging with the Oz content creators that specialise in Cycle content then make sure there are no dogs nearby. There's history.
A worn bearing will allow slack and start to wear the contact points of the spindle down. the more the spindle is worn down the faster it will wear. Once it gets thin enough it would be susceptible to a break as shown. It is a good idea to check bearing wear on the bottom bracket bearing and spindle.
4:59 It was just before this point as you were fluffing with your camera I halfheartedly called out a hello to you Cam. You looked confused; I don’t blame you 😂
I won't be surprised if Tiagra spindles are tougher but heavier. There is a price to pay for lightweight, and this is one of them. Haven't seen this happen on the TdF though, and those guys output a lot of watts on sprints.
remember we dont know if the pros (at the biggest races) get new cranks every day. Grand Tour bikes could be a bit like rally cars on a rally re how many new parts are on the car that finishes the rally.
Now we all know, it is the maximum limit for a spindle/crank design. 105 is the optimum design for a spindle/crank, while the ultegra and durace is too light but not safe, in term of engineering design at least by referring to Failure Mode Effect Analysis, the ultegra & durace both are very dangerous to use.
Zwift you don't support my tablet that's not that old so I have to hook up the laptop which is a bugger that. Anyway around this as my rouvy app work sweet on my Android. Good to see Maven ive not heard of him for a while now. That's really rare for a shimano spindle to go like that. I use campy now as the ranks are light but strong.
good vid i like the flow of the vid. a little bit choppy on the music side tho. a lot of switching in the middle of a cool part of a song. and to many different songs for my taste. I'm here to see you improve on the editing for the future. keep on pedalling ;)
Thanks for the feedback but it’s a purposeful technique to maintain audience retention. I know some people won’t like it, especially if you’re into video production but I’m more focused on TH-cam audience retention.
Join us this Sunday (the 22nd) - We will meet at Nano Cade (23 Ebenezer Pl, Adelaide SA 5000, Australia) at 9:30 for a coffee. We will leave ~10:30 for a 65km ride to Mount Lofty to watch the final 2 laps of the circuit. Then a nice cruisey 20km ride back into town. Potential for a few drinks back in the city if people are keen to hang around.
Hopefully I can join for that coffee & ride. If you have a spot for someone who are still a learner. So missed home & the cycling there...enjoy TDU Cam
is duriran going?
@@bryanscott7066 so we can all avoid if he is?
Awesome content as always Cam, and 10/10 for inclusivity with the group ride invite mate. Not there this year unfortunately but will be using your template of rinse repeat ride/watch/beers at next year’s TDU hopefully. 👍
Thanks mate!!
“And you were worried about Ali Express” 😂😂
I’d be taking that crank straight to the Shimano stand (if there is one) in the tour village tomorrow! 😉
Just stand out in front of it until the hand you a new one.
You could stand with the anti Santos demonstrators 😂 😂 😂
Chapeau to the guy who sees rain in forecast and wears all white kit. That shows confidence
Truth. I was super anxious he might turn around and give us a full frontal view. 😱🤦♂️🤣
Great video Cam, not going to mention the spindle but Craig's amazing track stand he is truly one with his bike.
6:05 you can see some marks there
could be the internal cables touching the spindle
or just 2000 watts of pure power^^
Very cool to see the Cycling Maven once again. His channel was my first introduction into the Aussie cycling culture, and I've been envious ever since!
Went in 2018, had a great time in the sweltering heat. We quickly worked out it was an early ride, see the race start, head to the pub, steak, beers, watch the race finish, ride home for an early dinner and repeat. Was the best 7 days of cycling in my life. I even got a faster segment than Thomas degent and andre greipel, so i was stoked.
Enjoy the trip mate 👊🍺
Opposing force causes a spiral fracture like this - like when arm wrestlers break humerus. This can start off when (for example) standing on both pedals when you either land hard after jumping over/off something or hit a hard pothole when standing on the pedals. I've seen it twice from the previously mentioned reasons.
i think sheldon brown warns against doing just that...
Hard hits and landings while standing on the pedals is common in MTB and I have never experienced or heard about someone experiencing that issue. Maybe the axles in Shimano MTB cranks are stronger?
Truly amazing videos. A pleasure to watch.
Sweet vid, have missed these TDU the last few years!
From the victim of the cracked spindle (me). It was D/A 9150 / Stages Gen 3. It was housed in a Wheels Manufacturing Outboard BBright > Shimano in a Cervelo S5. The BB setup probably eliminates the possibility of internal cable interference and misalignment. I will be expecting a replacement from the online retailer who sold it to me 12 months ago. Otherwise Shimano will have hell to pay from me.
They should have made a bit thicker walls and this wouldn't have happened. Seems like a major design flaw, as many people in the comments point to similar experiences. What a bummer. I will now be extra cautious when accelerating on the descends/oncoming traffic. Good thing you are okay.
Out of curiosity, were there any warning signs. Additional drive train noise etc... Does the bb spin freely? did it break whilst sprinting?
Dura ace and stages yeah that's like two grand 🔥 ouch
Great to see Maven.
I've missed the old-school vids...looking forward to the series!
A friend at work snapped Ultergra crankset spindle. Usuallly the crack is in a wave pattern. He narrowly avoided a crash since he was off sadlle when the spindle gave in.
Lucky for him!
The opening shots I think I have PTSD from your white bib shorts skit 😂
Thanks for the ride today mate! Poor bloke, hope he got home alright!
Cheers mate, likewise
Can confirm he got a lift home from his wife. I would know as I’m his son 😂
Welcome to Adelaide keep the uploads coming 👌 fabulous
Had the same happen on my SRAM Red 2 years ago. Took a bad tumble, luckily it happened so quickly I didn't have time to react and hurt too much. Broke my helmet too. Edit: I should add that SRAM EU's support and action in replacing the drive-train was exemplary. In retrospect, there had been warning creaks that I just put down to a bad BB. Worth checking yourself if you have an untraceable creak...
To those who are wondering, yes it is dura-ace crankset
There was a picture last week from an AUS FB cyclist where the DAce spindle broke just like that. So that’s two in a week I’ve seen.
Have a blast Cam
Very nice. Never snapped a single 1 of my solid steel cranks yet :O
If you're hanging with the Oz content creators that specialise in Cycle content then make sure there are no dogs nearby. There's history.
Cracked my Sworks spindle a few months ago out of the saddle going up a hill. Almost crushed the plums lol
Shit, glad you're ok!
How good mate. Wish I was there.
Did I see some white bibs in the beginning 😂 Great stuff, Cam 👍 Cheers, Chrissi
haha, yes you did Chrissi.
Old mate with the white bib shorts is back!
Great to see Cycling Maven, that's a No.1 guy there.
Your mate in white shorts? Have a word with him
wowwowo ... he done it!
A worn bearing will allow slack and start to wear the contact points of the spindle down. the more the spindle is worn down the faster it will wear. Once it gets thin enough it would be susceptible to a break as shown. It is a good idea to check bearing wear on the bottom bracket bearing and spindle.
It could be the misalignment of the bearings in the bottom bracket, but I would have thought it would been noticed, when it was installed.
Probably bashed in with a hammer aussie style...
Those white bibs are outrageous. So bold
I can trackstand for 0,5 sec more or less, and then there's this dude doing a no-hander...
Was that crank that snapped on a trek. If yes then that will
Be the 3rd one I know about
4:59 It was just before this point as you were fluffing with your camera I halfheartedly called out a hello to you Cam. You looked confused; I don’t blame you 😂
Enjoyable
I have had exactly the same break on my 105 crankset
that was a shimano crankset, right - first the crank arm, now the spindle - unbelievable!
Anyone knows the song at 3:30 at the start of the prologue?
Awesome video btw. 😍
I won't be surprised if Tiagra spindles are tougher but heavier. There is a price to pay for lightweight, and this is one of them.
Haven't seen this happen on the TdF though, and those guys output a lot of watts on sprints.
remember we dont know if the pros (at the biggest races) get new cranks every day. Grand Tour bikes could be a bit like rally cars on a rally re how many new parts are on the car that finishes the rally.
A real man would have ridden home with just the one crank arm (and then told everyone he rides with about it every ride he's on for the next year).
What year crank is that? It's it a few years old? 5? 10?
At 4:30,wich soundtrack it is?
What song was that around 6:58?
Love, love, love riding Adelaide!! ❤️❤️
(a shame about all the Crows and Port supporters, though 😄)
haha, I'm a Crows supporter. But I get it
@@CamNicholls indeed...as is my dear lady wife. It's Murder, I tell ya!! 😄😄
Is that a custom paint job on your buddys factor ostro? So sick
Good to see maven again.
Was that an ultegra crank?
Agreed. Not sure, I was bonking at the time. haha
@@CamNicholls Tell maven to put down the beers and start making some vids
Now we all know, it is the maximum limit for a spindle/crank design.
105 is the optimum design for a spindle/crank, while the ultegra and durace is too light but not safe, in term of engineering design at least by referring to Failure Mode Effect Analysis, the ultegra & durace both are very dangerous to use.
At 38 seconds what is the brand name of the blue tooth speaker your buddy has on his handlebar? Thanks.
It looks like a JBL. Not sure, but I suspect that's the case.
Maven!
Maven 👍
How good was that tail wind to Tununda.
Magnificent
Internal routed cable wore it away till it snapped?
Seems like the most plausible reason!
Nah, the only plausible reason is too many watts. Gotta be.
Go juice!!
Any idea what kind of Shimano crank that was?
Zwift you don't support my tablet that's not that old so I have to hook up the laptop which is a bugger that. Anyway around this as my rouvy app work sweet on my Android. Good to see Maven ive not heard of him for a while now. That's really rare for a shimano spindle to go like that. I use campy now as the ranks are light but strong.
good vid i like the flow of the vid. a little bit choppy on the music side tho. a lot of switching in the middle of a cool part of a song. and to many different songs for my taste.
I'm here to see you improve on the editing for the future. keep on pedalling ;)
Thanks for the feedback but it’s a purposeful technique to maintain audience retention. I know some people won’t like it, especially if you’re into video production but I’m more focused on TH-cam audience retention.
What’s the music you use? Works so well with the video.
Good to hear. It's from Artlist. I would list all the songs but I am literally on rapid-fire mode while I'm here.
Yeah I’ve tried to find that 80’s synth style track, but cannot. It was used in the badlands vid too I believe. 🤔
@@CamNicholls The song that I loved was Neon Affair from Splize. Thanks to Shazam!
Hey cam, cant find details for sundays ride?
Did you see the pinned comment?
5:33 #ThanksShimano
45 degree angle of the break suggest failure caused by torque
Go Sram 🥳
Oh Yeah they Break!! Hope you got to See Natassia the Get Fit Girl hahaha
Is that Durian’s girlfriend?
@@thedownunderverse You Know It Is hahaha
@@deheckler brutal
Do you have a strava link?
www.strava.com/activities/8410143898
I once snapped a 7800 non-drive side arm, right in the middle of it, while doing sprint training. It did not end well.
Sorry to hear, that sounds uncomfortable
Was there any warning before it gave way?
@@CamNicholls Tore up lots of soft tissue. Much worse than if I had broken a collarbone. (In one, two, or three places)
@@robt8042 Zero warning.
What steed have you chosen to do all those K’s on while you’re down there Cam?
BMC. Comfort machine for the harsh Adelaide country roads!
White shorts making a cameo!
#thanksshimano
Try and capture vision with Robbie McKeown on a ride.
Why didn’t I think of hanging my JBL like that 🤦♂️ hard to hear in my back pocket
adelaide the place to be, ripper footage
White bibs
One comment I haven't seen is hos poor the roads are. Looks like the tarmac took a beating. Looks like the roads and paths here.
Ride Campagnolo end of no crap cranks
I dont watched this video, buy i guess that was Shimano.
Yeah, never seen a Shimano crank break at that point!
4 mins in and still no mention of chinese frames!? 😮
Shimano finds new ways for their cranks to fail. Time for them to take some responsibility.
Sh💩t… 😮. Nothing lasts forever! Apart from Campagnolo 😉
Love to ride with you but your too fast 😂
We're taking it easy on Sunday!
It takes cojones to sport an all-white kit
That doesn't look like VB!
Haha correct, it was not an option! But the jingle has become my general beer drinking song
@@CamNicholls criminal to drink that #pisswater
Ugh. radios on a bike. You would think if you can afford a 7K bike you could get a single earbud or some open ears
Wow! That is a failure.
zwift is honestly super outdated, maybe they should work on user experience a bit more.
White cycling bib shorts? WTF? They should be banned.
two much power,cant trust those cheap chinese components!
it is a shimano lol
1. Not so cheap* 2. Japanese*
@@mrtraitor i know ,i was being ironic, lol!
yoo00000 the Mave!!! i know that dude! Trying to save a few grams will do that.. bikes got heavier and parts got lighter.
#thanksshimano
#thanksshimano