The only tiny thing wrong with the looks of the 159 is the front overhang is a bit "much". But that's entirely forgivable. The Giulietta is awkward, it's miles better than the Golf, Astra, Focus etc but it's clear that modern safety and practicality weighted heavily on it's design.
in 2000 when i was a 16yrs old teen,first time saw a 156 in a showroom in beijing.i was completely shocked.what a beautiful car!!from that day i became an alfisti.in 2017,alfa came to china mainland and i have my giulia veloce.dream finnaly come true!!
The Giulia Veloce is indeed a wonderful car! I have a 2017 model with the adaptive suspension and all the gimmicks, and I love it to bits! Best salon car I've ever owned and a blast to drive on both country roads and the Autobahn. I love to give BMWs, Mercedes and Porsches a hard time. On a straight track, they can show off their horsepower, but as soon as the road gets curvy, the fun starts and they start to struggle.
@@joergmaass Hi chaps, I'm definitley getting a Giulia as my next daily driver but can't decide whether to be sensible and get a top-spec Veloce, or sell the kids for medical experiments and buy a Quadrifoglio!
@@TheAlfaNut As much as I'm craving a QF, I think the Veloce is the better choice for a daily driver. Also, you definitely need to have experience with high power cars before you can safely drive a QF, it is from a different planet...
As a person that has been on all alfas like the 33, 147, 156/156 facelift and the 159 ti i can say with all my heart that the 159 ti is the most beautiful car i have ever seen, periot !
Hi, thanks for the video! I'm a 159 owner, a 2.4 Ti Qtronic. Wonderful car. Reliable, fast, fun to drive. And oh so beautiful. To my mind the last of the beautiful Alfas (8C aside). I've had mine remapped, and it produces 240bhp and 480Nm of torque. No problems with the remap at all. The only downside to my car is the heavy fuel consumption, exacerbated by the auto box. I'm lucky to get much over 20mpg around town. Almost twice that on the motorway though. It's a brilliant, serene motorway cruiser. Mine has taken me all over Europe with no problems. Anyway, thanks again, for drawing attention to these underrated cars. I have subscribed to your channel :-)
Thanks Ric, yes I’d like to try out a 2.4 - to me it seems like the best compromise of all the engines: quick, torquey, economical (sometimes!) and with 5 cylinders it sounds great too!
I have the 159 Sportwagon, same year, same colour. First Alfa I have owned and didn’t know what to expect, but, I’m happy to say that I adore this car !. It is, by far, the best looking estate car you can buy, in my opinion. It has been faultlessly reliable and is plenty quick enough, (I have the 150bhp version). It has its quirks, like any car, like the auto wipers, as mentioned, but it’s a car that always makes me smile when I drive it. The thing that amazes me is that, whenever I park it up, I ALWAYS find myself looking back at it as I walk away smiling !!. Never had that with any other car that I’ve owned !. Such a beautiful looking car, I love it !.
Hi Kevin, thanks very much for watching and also for commenting! Yes I agree - the Sportwagon is certainly the best looking estate car built in living memory.
I love my ti Sportwagon. It runs the 2.4 diesel and there’s no complaints about the acceleration (once the turbo gets going). I never get tired of looking at it and it’s a beautiful car to drive. So comfortable and I love the steering feel. Mine’s done 140,000km now and it’s as solid as a rock. No rattles or squeaks and everything works. The only complaints I’d have are the lack of cabin storage and cup holders and the horrible Bluetooth system.
The build quality is a big plus on these cars and everyone seems to agree on this. I suspect that 2.4 motor is also the best choice (apart from the 1750 tbi perhaps?)
Totally agree on the intermittent wipers having a mind of their own. The function does work fairly well when the wiper blades are new but starts to act strangely once they wear a bit and may not clear the little sensor completely.
Hi Gil, thanks for watching - good choice, the AWD 3.2. is the best drivetrain for Winter driving - it would be useful here in the UK at the moment! ;0)
I own a 159 SW lusso 1.9 16v and I feels quick enough. I’ve owned it for nearly a year now and it’s been very reliable. Top car, as happy now as I was when I bought it.
Have always loved the 159 one of the best looking saloons of all time and was seriously considering getting one. Got a 147 1.9 JTD 150 instead due to smaller size and better insurance and I prefer hatchbacks anyway and it is by far the best car I have owned. Great video by the way 😊
Had a 1.9 JTDM TI for 2 years. Always hit 50mpg no matter how you drove it. Was a fairly good car to drive, Blue & me was a bit intermittent. Started having DPF issues around 130k Miles and the swirl flap went at 144k miles which meant engine replacement. Other things to watch out for with the 19 inch wheels was track rod ends and wheel alignment. Needed fixing every 6 months or the front tyres would wear unevenly. Looked amazing but beware of these issues.
Hi Mike, thanks a lot for watching and the pointers. I think its funny that generally non-Alfa people think that Alfas are unreliable but the GM component- heavy 159 had more problems than many previous Alfas put together! The “purest” version of the 159 will be featured next - the 1750 tbi 👍🏻
Just found this blog. I still have my 2010 159Ti 2.4 and it is a dream. Service it annually regardless of mileage and she’s never let me down. Timing belt changes always need doing ontime.
tengo la coleccion de los 3 que llegaron a colombia el mito el giulieeta y el 159 2,2 selespeed la verdad a mi no me han dado dolores de cabeza como dice la gente la verdad es que muchos de los que hablan mal de alfa romeo nunca han tenido uno en su garage yo creo que es mas bien que las personas no saben tener un vehiculo. hay que hacer los cambios de aceite cuando debe ser y aceite bueno no cualquier aceite. no usarlo siempre a altas revoluciones etc un abrazo
Great video! Ive had my 159 since the 7th of December, she's a 2010, Red 2.0 jtdm Sportwagon, in Ti spec, lots of spec too including factory Xenons and a (rather noisy) sunroof.. I've recently had it remapped to 210hp, and 477nm of torque and EGR valve deleted, so goes very well now! It's on 90,000 miles now, everytime I drive it, I can't believe how well built it feels, and rattle free. Such a lovely place to sit, with the brushed aluminium dash. I did go searching originally for the 1.75 tbi, but in the spec I wanted, and colour, they seem very rare. The 2.0D is great for a daily driver. It also seems to get quite a bit of attention, which I didn't expect.
I had my 2.2 TI black on tan 159 for 5 years, it’s the best driving FWD car I’ve had the pleasure to drive in anger. The interior is one of the best in any car ever, and those looks are to die for, IMO it needs to be a TI and need twin exhausts (2.2, 2.4, 3.2). I loved the shift feel, very short and positive, love the notchyness. I miss the feeling in other cars. I assure you, a TI with the seats at their lowest and tilted back has a very sporty driving position for a saloon. Getting into a Giulietta afterwards felt like getting into an SUV.
On my 7th Alfa which happens to be a 2010 159 Ti 2.4. Great car, 140,000 km, no problems apart from a set of glow plugs and a new sensor ($8 from Ebay lol). A vastly underrated car. Yes it's an Alfa and needs to be looked after but it's huge performance sedan. Love your work.
Thanks a lot for watching Matt - I haven’t driven the 2.4 yet but I suspect its the best daily driver engine. Will be getting in a tuned 1750 tbi ti soon, so looking forward to making that video! 😉
Hello I am italian and my 159 sportwagon jtd 2.4 is now painted in green, white and red Alfa Romeo: the colours of italian flag. Is a 2009 car, sport edition, original beige leather seats. At 368.000 km engine exploded so I found an used 2.4 motor with 130.000 km and I changed. After 2000 km broken the automatic gear: I renew it. Before this breaking no one big problem! Now the car has 385.000 km and it is still amazing to drive! Last week Svitzerland and Austria for work! I forget: I have other three fantastic cars: an amazing Maserati Granturismo Sport 4.7, F1 gear, 2016 with 33.000 km: dark grey paint and dark red interiors; a stunning Ferrari 360 Modena, F1, grey alloi (azul), red interiors, 30.000 km, 2004 and a killer Radical SR8 RX for pista. Believe me: I enjoy my Alpha 159 like the other three. Each great car has its own character and Alpha 159, as daily car thet you can drive like a sport car, is amazing too! About this car I love the general balance, the handling, the perfect seat, the good comfort, the amazing stirrer. I will send photos to Alpha Nuts. By and enjoy your good old cars: new cars are shit cars!!!
Ciao Remo and thanks for your message! I love Maseratis too - I have owned a 2002 4200 Spider and a 2005 4200 coupe - both cambiocorsa cars. I also need a Ferrari one day 😉 I think the 2.4 is probably the best engine for the 159, although the 1750 tbi is a great engine too. Your 159 sounds like it will be very easy to see on the autostrada! 😁
@@TheAlfaNut yes: policeman always smile! Only in switzerland custom I was stopped for long controls... Too much italian! Ps: 360 is a stunning car: light, nervous, rough, intuitive, amazing. F1 gear is not so bad like all tell: in sport is ferocious and rough, like a real racecar! The metallic sound of 5 valves per cilynder is amazing still with stock exaust: next step race exaust and electronic unit. Grey alloy color is stunning: it shows the real beauty of the car, maybe one of the best Ferrari of all time and now incredibly cheap. Only to found the right one. I buy it two weeks ago in Belgium and have driven it for 1200 km (16 hours) to return home. It has too a sufficent comfort (it don't break my ass). Next week I will do the italian registration. Only to see both Maserati and Ferrari toghether make proud to be italian! Idiots europen and italian politics wants to destroy the italian heritage that is, for the second half last century, history of incredible cars design and manufactured! You made Brexit! You right! By
Hi Remo, you are a lucky man to have such a garage! My friend owned a 360 Modena Spider about 10 years ago and I have been the fastest ever in that car - 260kph with the roof down 😱 A much better car than the 430 I think? Yes Brexit has finally happened and I hope that our European friends will see that we still love Europe, we just don’t like the EU parliament & people like Guy Verhofstadt ! 🤬 I also hope we will still be allowed into Europe - I am supposed to be visiting the Alfa museum in June to make a video! 😱😳
@@TheAlfaNut Hello my friend: yes, EU is a nest of rats of worst species! Europe is that of Peoples and Nations which have nothing to do with EU and Euro. What are happening in UK about laws to put in jale people who speaks about killer vaxines? Governments want mandatory vaxines for all: see this bunch of bullshit about "coronavirus"... Only in Italy every year 49.000 people die in italian hospitals for infection contracted in hospitals! Eies wide open! You and your patriots are always welcome in Italy and in Europe, of course! You are THE MODEL! About Ferrari 430 I never driven one! I think 360 is more iconic, more beautiful, more light, with a more interesting 8 cilynder (5 valves per cilynder): power is more in 430 but it is not all. I love 360 Modena! In grey alloi and red leather is a piece of art! Sound is sexy! When you come in Italy if you want we can meet: I live in Veneto near Treviso. Soon I will send you photos! By
Remo Crosato i dislike the political part of EU too but please, then leave the EU because hasnt done anything else than usurp money from other EU nations with their financial instability.
Still in my opinion the most beautiful sedan ever designed. The Giulia is for sure top-notch engineeringwise, but the 159 still is a presence to behold on the road, and despite all of the bad rap it was a great family car, unfortunately hampered by a very undertone marketing strategy.
Hi Jesper - be careful to choose a car with good subframes, as they rust badly on the 159 and Brera! Get the 2.2 if you can - they are better all round. Whichever you choose, get the best maintained car you can afford, with some good service history. Good luck!
I have the 159 2.2JTS 185 SW (Station) A great familly car, rock solid on the road and above 3000rpm the engine really comes to life. The seats can lower down and tilt so I get the sporty feeling. I think the desing /looks of the SW is much nicer than the sedan. It is strong enough to pull a big caravan and it drives very nice with long distances on the motorway. The gearbox 6 speed is very tight if you dont clutch on te good rpm it's getting bumpy. Also if you hit the gas with the faster gasoline version often check the oil regulary, they love to drink oil. (only Selinia)
Lovely looking cars especially the ti estate version,the 1750 tbi is the best engine in my opinion ,found the 1.9 diesel to be reliable and torquey if a little unrefined.I hated the clutch on the 2.2 petrol.Great video as usual.
Fiat Stilo 3dr... Poor mans Brera. I wanted to buy Brera since it came out but it is (still) out of my reach so I got Stilo 3dr with JackRussel-like 1.4 petrol engine.
From my experience Chris when I owned a 06 plate 2.4JTDm Lusso Saloon is 1. Yes the auto wipers were annoying 2. The folding door mirrors had character ( Mind of their own especially the drivers side on mine especially when unfolded ) 3. Auto headlights kept to Drivers choice when turned on / off ( Sensor too sensitive) However I found it having a nice ride especially on the bumpy stuff .. Very quick because of torque . Great driving it in snow. Amusing as one dark morning I was driving it to work and I was pulled in by the police .. The police following me had panicked when the dpf’s started to regenerate and the tail pipes glowed red. And assurance words showing them the size of the handbook and saying in here but I cannot remember what page Alfa Romeo say it can happen make them change their mind and leave me alone lol Oh I miss my 159 😢
The Alfa Nut It is the oh embarrassment of a Seat Leon MK1 😖 I do also have a 156 2.0 JTS Veloce but is on decision as the rear suspension has collapsed and a ton of other work is needed including all belts & tensioners etc etc . The 2.4 JTDm is a great sounding unit and a bit better in the slightly later models as the weight was reduced & it was increased in horsepower to 210 before it was totally taken out of the model range due to euro emissions. I am awaiting a decent amount of cash to come through from a investment to get a newer Alfa. I am in a conundrum go with a older Alfa with the 2.4 JTDm engine such as a 159, Brera , Spider or go with a current Giulia which will be getting cheaper with the 2020 facelifted version soon new on sale ...
It's always nice to find more informations, opinions, reviews, and random stuff about Alfas, and particularly about the one I own, the 159. I have a 159 SW 1.9jtdm 150bhp. I found the SW more beautiful than the standard car, and more beautiful than any other SW. I do have the same set of interior color, for me, the most beautiful. I do find the 150bhp enough but it does lack a bit of a punch. Summer tires get me a 8L/100km urban and 6L/100 combined, Highway get's me 6L at 100-110km/h, 6.5L at 120-125km/h. Winter tires substracts 0.5L/100km. The gearbox it's precise but slow, together with the lack of punch when you accelerate from stop it does make a slow start. My seats are similar and I love the quality of the leather. The car has 123k km on the clock and although the front seats, specially mine are a bit wear out in the sides, I think they are in great shape. Driving position took me 1 year (I have back problems) to find, but once I got it right, it's amazing. To bad there's no memory. I do trips of 2000km with minor discomfort by the end. The automatic wipers.... yes, piece of crap. The parking sensors.. the best I used (I have the 4/4 package) I have Xenon headlight, this car used 1Ds models, very expensive. Exhaust is silent, and hardly any smoke. I have BOSE system sound. Not superb, but good. If you drive close to the front the sound might be a bit frontal, but if you get yourself a bit back it get''s really good. Blue and Me system is crap. The Usb drive does not read all the files(I mean it does read mp3, but if you put 200 files in a USB PEN, it will only read about 70 or 100 and keep on looping the same songs). I can't park straight because of the car curvature. :) Love it shape though. Chassi is very solid, the car does not need such big tires also, it would withstand 200bhp no problem. Trunk door is narrow but there's plenty of space for almost everything. I have headlights waterjets I had to disable them, they consume 7L of water in one week. (One waterjet for each headlight, 6 headlights...) Construction is solid despite myths, center console does not move, plastic in the doors upper part are kinda rubber instead of rigid plastics. Curiosity: Since I started driving I never got a crack on my windshield, however I already changed my Alfa windshield twice... aerodynamics problem maybe? Yes, I'm dying inside because there's no Giulia SW. :'(
@@malcolmhardwick4258 For a car which cost me 2k, it was great. I drove it 1.5 years and around 30k-40k km. Now I can't get TÜV because of rust and some electrical problems
I am now (finally!!) the proud owner of a 159 sportwagon 😎 it has rust, warning lights, weird knocks, failed parking sensors, failed glow plugs and other strange quirks but I honestly can't stop looking at it inside and out it is simply one of the best looking cars ever made 😁 now starts the long road of making everything work again 😁 cheers alfanut!! 🇮🇹
I have one 159 2.0jtdm 170bhp with almost 250k km..still runs perfectly fine! I love the car and I plan to keep it for my boy for when he gets older and has a driving license :D :D
@@pyroclasm1 I am expecting to get at least 300k and then save it for my boy! But you can definetely expect a very good car! Reliable and with enough power. Actually they are quite economical as well. I just did a trip of 400 km and averaged 4.8 l/100km!!! (58mpg)
Mine: A 2007 159 2.4 Lusso, red (of course!) tweaked for better throttle response and about 235 bhp / 350 ft lbps of torque. Recently went to Scotland (Loch Tay area) from Kent and the car was superb averaging 45mpg, cruise control helped as well. Thing is though, it does make me feel good and most other 159 / Brera / Spider owners must feel the same because we'll acknowledge each other when we see another one (and let's face it you don't see many about unfortunately). Had it 3 1/2 years now and I still can't park it and walk away without looking back at it! Is that sad or normal? (Main draw back, you're right about the gearbox being "notchy", even more so when it's cold!)
Hey i am about to buy a 159 jtdm 120 ps 100.500km but the owner told me it makes a noise in the 3 4 gear so what should i do.... :( got german new HU TÜV so i dont know
Hi Thony, unless the car is very cheap - look for a different 159! The 159 gearbox is not very good anyway but if this one has a fault, it will cause you bigger problems later. There are plenty of 159's to choose from, so be patient and find one with good service history and no problems! Good luck.
I recently bought a 2008 159 sport sport wagon. The 2.4 JTDm TI, and what a vehicle, the most comfy drive I have ever owned. It’s also been mapped and goes extremely well! Great channel btw !
Hi Vini - thanks for watching, glad you like the channel! I never got to drive the 2.4 but it seemed like the best all-rounder for the 159, especially if mapped and more poky! Enjoy 👍🏻😉
I daily drive a 156 which I love it’s my third Alfa and I love it I have had 2 years no trouble I suppose when it has gone maybe a159 or a t spark spider for fun which driving should always be .i am not a millionaire but I love my alfas real cars Si Si si grazie Mille ciao
The 159 is the most seductive sedan of all time..........I drove a 2,4 JTD for almost 2 years as a company car here in South Africa and never experienced any problem or hick up of any kind (fabulous fuel economy).........delightful and exciting to drive at every moment..........I really miss it
I have a 2006 2.4 Turbo diesel, Manual with Ti Rims and Skirts. By far the best car i have owned. :) (also have 2x 2.0 Alfetta's and a '75' in the garage) The whole car has been quality repainted in a metallic maroon and the Ti rims in a metallic grey. Has the same tan interior as the one your in. Its at 156,000 kms and it hasn't missed a beat since i've owned it. Here in Australia the roads are quite shite most places so cant play around too much, i've broken 2 Ti rims on the shittily built country roads where i live. Which weren't easy to find or cheap to replace! But the fuel consumption is amazing! I average about 4.5L /100km @ 100kmph. On a motorway nearer the city i was cruising at 145kmph at 4.8L/100k's on cruise control. This car was built to be powerful yet efficient, and can tell that it was developed for Europe's Superstrada's and Autobahns. Sadly modern cars are less efficient and weigh even more. Mine is about 1635kg, about 215hp, and around 250kmph top speed and can go up to 1100kms cruising just over the 100kmph speed limits. ((Mine must have been modified under the hood also, bc the book top speed is 228 and i've had it to 245 relatively easy. )) It is more efficient than all newer modern common cars of similar size. The only others i've found to be similarly efficient are new diesel Mercedes and a couple other high end brands which 'claim' around 6.5L/100k's. I bought it 2 yrs ago for AUD $6400 with all the Ti kit already on it, which is pennies compared to the quality, luxury and performance this car has. The biggest cost has been insurance and rego as usual, grrrr.
Hi Langdon & thanks for watching! Your car sounds good - nice colour combo there. I think you're right about the 159 being built for comfort and motorway use, it's certainly not a back road scratcher! Hope you haven't had too hard a time with the fires mate?
Please try a 2.4Ti 210 bhp sportwagon like mine. One that has a proper remap, dpf removed, EGR blocked, swirl flaps removed and intake cleaned. You then get around 245 bhp and 500 Nm of torque, like mine. It literally changes the car. You can set the sensitivity of the wipers on the stalk, it works quite well actually.
I've got a high mileage quantum of solace edition 1.9 jtdm. I can honestly say it's the best car I've ever ever had. Bit smokey when cold but other than that, it's perfect. Only cost me just over a grand as well.
Not a fan then Chris? I think you'd probably enjoy a Ti a bit more, especially one that's been tweaked with a 200bhp minimum, and had a few bits sorted - the 2.4 JTDm or the TBi aren't to be missed. Looking forward to the next installment 👍
Hi Andy, funny you should mention it - a 237 bhp tbi is next on my schedule. The 1.9 jtdm is a perfect all rounder daily, just a bit dull performance wise.
@@TheAlfaNut very nice, keen to hear about the mods to the TBi, whilst my 159 isn't a patch on the old 147 I had, it's still a decent handling car given its weight.
@@TheAlfaNut absolutely, stick a remap on it and the q2 (if not already on) and you've got a serious little motor - I'd say that sadly I had the 1.6, but nothing sad about it, I loved that little car, already keeping an eye out for a Ducati 147. If you ever venture into Hampshire, let me know, you can have a lend of my remapped 2.4 Ti for comparison, it's sticking out somewhere in the region of 260bhp and 442ft-lb (600Nm)
The 159 got a more “germanic” built quality. But more heavy too, along with a very notchy gear selector, as you pointed out. That’s why 4 cylinders cars are a little bit ordinary to drive. I bought a 3.2 v6 Q4 recently, and it’s a different animal. Please feel free to drive it on your next visit to Costa Rica. Cheers.
2.4 Ti Sportwagon is probably my favourite. Black or dark grey, red or tan leather trim. Yes we all say we want the V6, but I have one in my Spider and it’s not practical as a daily driver. Seriously think it might be a bargain all rounder for the family sports estate.
Hi Mark, thanks for watching. Yeah the 2.4 is the motor for everyday I suspect, although it's a heavy old lump! I also have a V6 Spider but they do like a drink! ;0)
The ti only has black leather with red stitching. I have the 2.4 Sportwagon in ti trim. The lowered suspension and 19” wheels give it a much more imposing stance than the standard variants.
N.B., Not an Alfa owner (anymore, sadly) -- I had a few roadsters before getting my first Alfa: An MG Midget, an MGB and a Triumph TR6. All were fine, and fun to shift. When I took out my first Alfa (a 1750 GTV), and experienced that transmission, I fell in love- A Five speed, long throw, and so smooth. It seemed to coax me to use my whole arm to toss it into gear. Like it preferred I shift with elan, even when I was all alone. It was glorious and felt as though I was conducting a symphony. It was an unforgettable experience that held through my next Alfa, a Spider 2000. Same deal. When I got my Alfetta, I was a bit let down, with it having a trans-axle in the rear. Still, the memory of my previous Alfas have ever defined for me, just how glorious an car could be. The 159 looks great. I'm not sure if we got that over the pond.
No you didn’t sadly, along with a few other good Alfas like the (916) GTV and the 156. If you want to revisit that Alfa love affair, try a new Giulia Veloce or Quadrifoglio. They really connect in a way that other cars don’t.
Hi, i have 159 1.9 181hp, and that car flies, even if its that heavy its very fast, im driving it for a year and half now, and everytime i park it, i look back at her same as the girls do when i drive it. She is so beautiful. This year i decided to give her some smile on it and im currently waiting her to be finished. Tinted glasses, new rims and sport exhaust, so i cant wait to get back to her this wednesday, and to hear new sound! Its a great car and i can't be more happy to have her.
I think that the automatic windscreen wipers are actually quite good with this car. The interval/response time is quite quick compared to some 2020/21 cars.
Hi Simon, thanks for watching and congrats on the tbi! In fact, I'm making a 3rd video about the 159, which will feature a 1.8tbi "ti" with 240 bhp! Watch out for that one.
@@simonbrandl7915 well... you know, its alfa. I have 156 diesel and was considering petrol engine since diesel is full of stupid sensors made by BOSCH crap
Hi there My first car was the Alfa 156 105 Hp, now I own my first wonderful Alfa Romeo 159 berina 120 Hp from 2007 diesel in silver color , since one year with 255.000kms now it’s about 281.000km real pleasure to drive lot of options real agressive look that’s why I was in love but really heavy, I putted some customs to makes it at my taste. I would like a Brera but the consumption is way to crazy so I’ll choose next the 159 Ti 170 is enought Hp for the weight
Hi frined, for Odometer flashing also removing the batery and replece it with a hig amperaj wil make te Odometer flash? I have that isue on a 159 that i whant to buy
Great video. Fairly new to Alfa ownership myself. Bought a new Giulietta Veloce about 3 weeks ago. For the price nothing else can touch it. Years ago I use to own a Fiat 130TC Abarth. The superb induction noise of the Alfa reminds me of my old Fiat.
Thanks for watching Jamie, glad you enjoyed it and yes the Giulietta Veloce is a hoot - well done for buying a new one & supporting Alfa. I’m planning to drive one soon for an episode. What do you like best about it?
@@TheAlfaNut So far I've only put about 1200kms on the clock and I'm still running her in. Picking one thing I like best about the Giulietta is tough and she looks, sounds, and performs superbly. However it's the handling that I like the best. I haven't been anywhere near her limits and probably never will. The steering is light but direct and the ride is pretty good for a hot hatch. My last car was an AWD Volvo V50, with a similar power output to the Alfa. Other than more interior space I can't think of anything that the Volvo did better. My only grip so far is the Dual Clutch transmission. It seems to hold on to first gear too long and at other times changes up too soon. Will look forward to seeing your review on the Giulietta.
I wish for Alfa romeo 147 from 2004. Damn, I dont care about what my friends says bad things about Alfa. I love Alfa Romeo, and when I grow up I am going to buy Alfa Romeo.
Good job my man 😀 a true Alfa nut. I have had the 159 3.2 Q4 and the 2.4 JTD. I loved them both but they killed me on repairs. The 3.2 was great fun though. Best Alfa I ever owned was the 166 3.2 V6.... but that was also challenging as getting the parts for it are very difficult.
Hey Sam, thanks for watching! Yep the cost of repairs is an issue with the 159 for sure. They are cheap to buy now though! The 3.2 Busso is quite an engine 👍🏻
Hi Ateeq, i haven’t driven the 3.2 but its probably the most practical out of all the lineup, especially for UK weather. Its pretty heavy with the V6 and 4x4 though, so not that quick 😕
Hi don’t no if u can help me I got a 159ti 1.9 diesel and I have system code come up on dash and can’t shift it can’t find any info on this thanks justin
Hi Justin, best advice I can give is to go to www.alfaowner.com and join (its free) then ask the question in the 159 owners section. Someone there will be able to help for sure. Otherwise, get the car scanned for fault codes at a garage or try downloading the fiatecuscan software and do it yourself. Good luck 👍🏻
I have an 08 jtdm sportwagon. Best damn used car I've bought. I took it between bologna and Rimi and clocked 240kph and I think it could of gone further. This car handles amazing. 0 to 100 6.6 secs.
1.9 Jtd gearbox is not so solid, tends to breakdown. If You have a 2.4 Jtdm You get a much better gearbox, it is rock solid. Ours has reach 250 000 Km...
@@MrNStK I really hated that Auto, ok maybe it was that example. But it was in a 159 3.2 V6 Q4, but it was really bad, the upshift and down shift didn't match rpm, it hold the gear to long , both up and down. kickdown was slow ....so really hated it.
No one test 1.9 jts or 2.2 jts ☹️ or is it a warning signal? It is said that they are consuming too much fuel, about 11liters and they are slow high maintanance cars. Thinking about 2.2 jts 159 or an mk3 2.5 v6 mondeo. Mondeo seems a better realistical buy.
Hi Peter, sorry for the late reply - the Mondeo is not really much more reliable than the Alfa but it is a bit faster. The Alfa is way more attractive to look at though!
Really enjoyed the video! I have a 159 TBi which I've had for 2 and a half years, traded in my trusty 147 1.6 for it and wow what a motor it is, I dont think I got the best one as I've spent so much on it already but even in it's current standard form at 200hp it really does go like the clappers compared to what I'm used to! Look forward to seeing more videos! Everyone that's had a go on my 159 has been converted to the Alfa Romeo way hehe
Same thing here. Have 2 159's, a 1.9 jtdm and a tbi ti. Great engines, amazing ride, god damn expensive to mantain as a whole. Except the engine, they had the same identical failures, from electric cables, ecu, suspension, to the damn noise made by the rear doors hinges and breakage of the plastic sprocket of the electric motor motor. They know how to make cars that put a smile on your face...till you have to visit the service station. 320k km on the 1.9jtdm and 165 on the tbi
I've got 2 156's and a 159. The 156 has brilliant handling on dry roads and has brilliant feedback through the steering, it's hard not to drive it flat out all the time, on wet roads you have to restrain yourself in the corners though as she will slide, the 159 is the opposite though, while it doesn't feel as sporting of a drive there is still fantastic feedback from the steering and can be pushed through corners on wet roads way faster than a 156. In fact on wet Irish roads once you get used to a 159 it's hard to have faith in the handling of any other saloon car, always heel/toe and blip the throttle on the down change.
Thanks for watching Darren, interesting what you say about the 156 vs the 159. Is your 159 a 4wd version? I have a 2.5 v6 156 and I agree that it encourages you to drive flat out all the time! 😉
I agree fully when you drive on wet/snow on an alfa 159ti you cant ever drive an other car the same way ! But i can still give credit to the 156 as its extremely reliable too on wet/snowy road
I've added a 2.0 916 gtv to the Alfa fleet, another brilliant car that brings a smile to my face, for a small car it has quite a bit more room in the cabin than my 308 gtb/qv despite the rear seat's, saying that, you wouldn't have adult's in the rear seat's for lack of leg room, but perfect for small children.
Proud owner of a 159 berlina 1.9 jts. The looks are breathtaking and the ride is very comfortable while its alsof quite capable for some sporty driving. Many people dont like the petrol engines ( except for the tbi) but i really like it. I really dont know where all that hate for the 1.9jts is coming from. Also i live in the Netherlands so a diesel is quite expensive to own.
Hi, i want to buy an 2008 sedan grey alfa 159 1.9jts 160, it has 80.000km (It shows on speedometer atleast), manual gearbox 6 speed, orange leather interior, 17inch wheels, and that all, no xenon or parking sensors/navi.car has expired mot/tuv since 2013 and hasn't been driven since, it comes from Italy. It had engine distributions chains belt, tensioner and water pump along with the whole kit replaced new, but still has some issues with the oil pump( new oil pump required). Price bargained is 2000euro... What do you think about it? I don't fancy diesel at all and I had the jtdm engine and I think petrol suits an alfa best. Also I look only after 1.9 jts natural aspirated engine. What do you think? Worth buying?
I just did a check, this isn't the 1.9jtdm, the 1.9 had 150bhp, the 2.0jtdm originally had 138bhp, and then it was upped to 170bhp, the model that you are driving is a 2.0jtdm 170 bhp.
@@TheAlfaNut ah yes I have seen that video now, I sent the message before seeing it. Well I have a 1.9jtdm 150bhp and boy does it go, as long as you have it in the right gear that is!
Just subscribed to your channel and enjoyed this piece very much. I have just sold a 159, only a wimpy 1.8mpi but I loved it. Such a beautiful car and in Rosso red. It was a Lusso with an interior the same as the one in the video. It got many an admiring glance and I will miss its practicality as I now have a 2.2jts Brera/Spider which was love at first sight. I would be interested to see what you think of them.
Interesting Video, but what are your detailed thoughts on the 2007 2.2 Brera Petrol Manual FWD Version ? Specifically: Underbody Chassis/Subframe/Suspension Corrosion/Rusting Problems Step Up OR Step Down ?
More like a step sideways I would say? The Brera wheelbase is 170mm shorter, so handling tends be a little more nimble but the same problems beset both cars: notchy gearbox, rusty subframes, excess weight and blunted performance as a result. I have only driven the 2.0 jts Brera Prodrive edition, which handled well due to stiffer and lower suspension and looked great but the ride was harsh on the 19” wheels and it still felt heavy. To be fair though I could live with it because its so gorgeous and even better looking than the 159! I would probably buy the V6 4WD and use it for Winter fun! Decision decisions 😄
@@TheAlfaNut Thanks for your very clear and comprehensive response - particularly your comment on the 'rusty subframes' - l have a 2007 2.2 Brera Petrol FWD on offer - immaculate paintwork and the shutlines are all in order - owner guarantees there have been no 'shunts', 'scrapes' and/or 'carpark dings'. However, its not the topside that l am so much concerned about, but the 'Italian disease' underneath - RUST !!! Are the rusty subframes a real issue or a 'minor concern' on these cars ? Thanks again in advance for your thoughts.
I'll have to add this to 'Watch Later' for when I'm ready. It still breaks my heart that I kissed goodbye to my black 159 3.2 V6 last year after 9 great years of companionship. I thought she would last me forever. It was not to be. Such is life.
I own a 159 sportwagon, 2.0 jtdm. Currently 200km 460Nm. The best car I have ever owned. Driving this car is pure pleasure. I drove a company Giulia Quadrifoglio for a while, it's my dream car.
Hi Andee, thanks for watching! Yes Alfa do make a nice diesel engine. I’ve just been given a 2.4 Brera to fix up, so looking forward to driving that! The Quadrifoglio is an awesome car 100%
Hi Peter - thanks for watching, much appreciated. Yes, the 159 does have some rust issues: suspension spring platforms sometimes, inner arches where they meet the floorpan, the usual areas. Not as bad as earlier cars like the 156 though.
How much would you expect this to cost to maintain compared to something more like a golf or polo? Getting a second car and would love soemthing more exciting
A workhorse - a great way to describe it! My 2.4 has done over 210k miles, what is still original: DMF, clutch, driveshafts, DPF etc. Components that fail more early on many manufacturers cars. Great improvement on body rust protection and electronics over previous Alfa models. Interiors look and feel better than other cars of same value. 159's have some weak points also- the front suspension components aren't very durable, handbrake is weak, the body gets corroded over time(boot, subframes) without attention, and the car is very heavy. Also the smaller GM gearbox is not very good as you said. 3.2 JTS and 2.4 diesel have much stronger gearboxes. Although the pretty design, I'd say a 159 is not a fragile italian, it is a very strong machine and easy to work on. It really has some german feel in it as mentioned on these comments (Bosch engine electronics and fuel injection systems etc) it even says VDO on the instrument panel.
@@TheAlfaNut well, that was the market they were targeting after all ;) As a 159 2.2 JTS Sportswagon owner I agree - it's 1.500Kgs of serious metal to get moving, so the upper range engines make life much easier going.
I have a 2.4 auto, I think equivalent to your Ti versions almost with almost fully loaded options - though no Satnav mind you. Remapped to avoid turbo lag that meant your average Corolla could get one off you off at the lights. Drives brilliantly. Still suffers from the occasional acceleration flutter when increasing speed after staying on highway constant cruise speed for some time.
Hi Chris - great videos.. I've had the 159 2.4jtdm sportwagon and now have the 2.4 saloon.. I love them, they're reliable, handle well and the design holds well against some newer models. For me, it's the best value Alfa one can buy. Not keen on the 1.9 diesel but need to buy another 159 as my partner wants my car..so looking to get the Spider 2.4diesel and tweek it for extra power and fun driving. Would love the 1750 petrol too.. looking forward to the next video.😃
Hi Carlo - thanks for watching! If I was buying a 159 it would be either a 2.4 Sportwagon (tuned!) or the 1750 tbi. I will be driving and reviewing a 1750 tbi very soon for another video, so watch out for that!
Thanks for yet another informative and entertaining video Chris. As it goes I was thinking of selling my 156 sw ti and getting a 159 sw ti after watching this I think I might hold on to the 156 for a few more years! By the way as that a GTV ph3 2.0 JTS i spotted lurking in your new man cave?
Have owned a 159 ti 1.9 Diesel since new in October 2008. Wonderful car. Now with 160k miles. NOT expensive to maintain. My 3rd Alfa in a row. Still the best looking sedan on the road.
@@TheAlfaNut Absolutely have to agree Chris. I had a GT 1.9 diesel (Stromboli Grey with Red Leather) before that. And a 156 Sportwagon 1.8 twin spark before that!! Been driving Alfas for the last 16 years! Would REALLY love to get back into a GT Cloverleaf. Really enjoying your videos. Many thanks!!
I have a GT with the 1.9 diesel engine and its a great car. Better looking and bigger boot space than the 147. Both cars have the same chassis, so have the same problems. I would choose the GT personally 👍🏻😉
Best colours for those are silver or light grey/gold, i own a silver with blue leather ,have had black, red gold, whte 159s before but the lines are shown best on the silvers
Had some problems with my current 2.4jtd qtronic, lots of vaccum leaks resulting in slugish acceleration and no top.speed. Coolant hoses get old crack and spill all over the engine. Intake manifold is a mess because of the egr , this is for all 2.4 ,the fix is to dismantle the intake and delete the flaps. It's an enormous job and not a diy. Besides of that car is immensely comfortable ,gearbox is good ,acceleration is decent if your in the powerband and not above 3500rpm.
I think the 159 nose, is the best looking ever on a sedan. Peroid.
I agree, its beautiful
Yea thats true :D
@miyahtallulah maybe but we are talking about sedans
Fallingout EMS ..... I concur .... it would even give my Stelvio Q a better look !! ... ;-)
Fallingout EMS when a girl is on her period ??
Interior of the 159 is a design masterpiece. Have a Giuiletta and always fancied a 159. Alfas are the best looking cars in the marketplace 👍
Thanks for watching David - I agree with you 👍🏻
the giulietta is better but the 159 is more enjoyable to drive]
The only tiny thing wrong with the looks of the 159 is the front overhang is a bit "much". But that's entirely forgivable. The Giulietta is awkward, it's miles better than the Golf, Astra, Focus etc but it's clear that modern safety and practicality weighted heavily on it's design.
Aside from the cup holder designed for an espresso
An espresso is all an Italian needs! 😉
in 2000 when i was a 16yrs old teen,first time saw a 156 in a showroom in beijing.i was completely shocked.what a beautiful car!!from that day i became an alfisti.in 2017,alfa came to china mainland and i have my giulia veloce.dream finnaly come true!!
The Giulia Veloce is indeed a wonderful car! I have a 2017 model with the adaptive suspension and all the gimmicks, and I love it to bits! Best salon car I've ever owned and a blast to drive on both country roads and the Autobahn. I love to give BMWs, Mercedes and Porsches a hard time. On a straight track, they can show off their horsepower, but as soon as the road gets curvy, the fun starts and they start to struggle.
@@joergmaass Hi chaps, I'm definitley getting a Giulia as my next daily driver but can't decide whether to be sensible and get a top-spec Veloce, or sell the kids for medical experiments and buy a Quadrifoglio!
@@TheAlfaNut As much as I'm craving a QF, I think the Veloce is the better choice for a daily driver. Also, you definitely need to have experience with high power cars before you can safely drive a QF, it is from a different planet...
@@TheAlfaNut I've heard rumours about that engine having issues with the crankshaft ( 2.0 turbo ). Worth investigating further before buying one.
156 design aged pretty well
Chris: "This weather's terrible!"
Also Chris: *lives in U.K.*
But seriously, that Alfa is absolutely stunning
Yeah it kind of goes without saying really doesn’t it? Road testing in January - I must be a real nut!
Honestly thank you so much for being one of the VERY few people talking about the astonishingly beautiful (and unreliable) company’s we call Alfa
Thanks very much for watching Jon - glad you appreciate the brand too. 🙂🍀
As a person that has been on all alfas like the 33, 147, 156/156 facelift and the 159 ti i can say with all my heart that the 159 ti is the most beautiful car i have ever seen, periot !
Agreed - it is a beautiful car!
Hi, thanks for the video! I'm a 159 owner, a 2.4 Ti Qtronic. Wonderful car. Reliable, fast, fun to drive. And oh so beautiful. To my mind the last of the beautiful Alfas (8C aside). I've had mine remapped, and it produces 240bhp and 480Nm of torque. No problems with the remap at all. The only downside to my car is the heavy fuel consumption, exacerbated by the auto box. I'm lucky to get much over 20mpg around town. Almost twice that on the motorway though. It's a brilliant, serene motorway cruiser. Mine has taken me all over Europe with no problems. Anyway, thanks again, for drawing attention to these underrated cars. I have subscribed to your channel :-)
Thanks Ric, yes I’d like to try out a 2.4 - to me it seems like the best compromise of all the engines: quick, torquey, economical (sometimes!) and with 5 cylinders it sounds great too!
I have the 159 Sportwagon, same year, same colour.
First Alfa I have owned and didn’t know what to expect, but, I’m happy to say that I adore this car !.
It is, by far, the best looking estate car you can buy, in my opinion.
It has been faultlessly reliable and is plenty quick enough, (I have the 150bhp version).
It has its quirks, like any car, like the auto wipers, as mentioned, but it’s a car that always makes me smile when I drive it.
The thing that amazes me is that, whenever I park it up, I ALWAYS find myself looking back at it as I walk away smiling !!. Never had that with any other car that I’ve owned !.
Such a beautiful looking car, I love it !.
Hi Kevin, thanks very much for watching and also for commenting! Yes I agree - the Sportwagon is certainly the best looking estate car built in living memory.
I love my ti Sportwagon. It runs the 2.4 diesel and there’s no complaints about the acceleration (once the turbo gets going). I never get tired of looking at it and it’s a beautiful car to drive. So comfortable and I love the steering feel. Mine’s done 140,000km now and it’s as solid as a rock. No rattles or squeaks and everything works. The only complaints I’d have are the lack of cabin storage and cup holders and the horrible Bluetooth system.
The build quality is a big plus on these cars and everyone seems to agree on this. I suspect that 2.4 motor is also the best choice (apart from the 1750 tbi perhaps?)
Totally agree on the intermittent wipers having a mind of their own. The function does work fairly well when the wiper blades are new but starts to act strangely once they wear a bit and may not clear the little sensor completely.
My 159 is red too but it is the 3.2 V6 AWD model....and it flies!!
Hi Gil, thanks for watching - good choice, the AWD 3.2. is the best drivetrain for Winter driving - it would be useful here in the UK at the moment! ;0)
Any issues with the timing chain stretching?
I own a 159 SW lusso 1.9 16v and I feels quick enough. I’ve owned it for nearly a year now and it’s been very reliable. Top car, as happy now as I was when I bought it.
Hi Jack, yes the SW is the best looking estate car out there in my opinion! 👍🏻
Have always loved the 159 one of the best looking saloons of all time and was seriously considering getting one. Got a 147 1.9 JTD 150 instead due to smaller size and better insurance and I prefer hatchbacks anyway and it is by far the best car I have owned. Great video by the way 😊
Hi Aman, thanks for watching! Yes hatchbacks are more fun to drive for sure - I drove a 147 GTA recently for an upcoming video and loved it 🙂
Wasn't that a picture of the Chiron,not a veyron?
Probably! 😆
yes :p
@@pyroclasm1 Oops.
@@TheAlfaNut and its nose is clearly inspired to the 159!
Haha yes! 👍🏻
Had a 1.9 JTDM TI for 2 years. Always hit 50mpg no matter how you drove it. Was a fairly good car to drive, Blue & me was a bit intermittent. Started having DPF issues around 130k Miles and the swirl flap went at 144k miles which meant engine replacement. Other things to watch out for with the 19 inch wheels was track rod ends and wheel alignment. Needed fixing every 6 months or the front tyres would wear unevenly. Looked amazing but beware of these issues.
Hi Mike, thanks a lot for watching and the pointers. I think its funny that generally non-Alfa people think that Alfas are unreliable but the GM component- heavy 159 had more problems than many previous Alfas put together! The “purest” version of the 159 will be featured next - the 1750 tbi 👍🏻
Just got a alfa 156 1.6 as my first car, while it is from 2003 its completely rust free!
Really enjoying your channel, you inspired me to get an alfa
Hi Yoran, thanks for watching and I’m very happy that you enjoy your 156 - its a great car, I have one too and I love it! Cheers 👍🏻
Got an 156 too, rust free as well, mine is diesel.
Just found this blog. I still have my 2010 159Ti 2.4 and it is a dream. Service it annually regardless of mileage and she’s never let me down. Timing belt changes always need doing ontime.
Hi Paul, thanks for watching. The 2.4 is probably the best engine, along with the 1750! 😎👍🏻
tengo la coleccion de los 3 que llegaron a colombia el mito el giulieeta y el 159 2,2 selespeed la verdad a mi no me han dado dolores de cabeza como dice la gente la verdad es que muchos de los que hablan mal de alfa romeo nunca han tenido uno en su garage yo creo que es mas bien que las personas no saben tener un vehiculo. hay que hacer los cambios de aceite cuando debe ser y aceite bueno no cualquier aceite. no usarlo siempre a altas revoluciones etc un abrazo
Great video! Ive had my 159 since the 7th of December, she's a 2010, Red 2.0 jtdm Sportwagon, in Ti spec, lots of spec too including factory Xenons and a (rather noisy) sunroof.. I've recently had it remapped to 210hp, and 477nm of torque and EGR valve deleted, so goes very well now! It's on 90,000 miles now, everytime I drive it, I can't believe how well built it feels, and rattle free. Such a lovely place to sit, with the brushed aluminium dash. I did go searching originally for the 1.75 tbi, but in the spec I wanted, and colour, they seem very rare. The 2.0D is great for a daily driver. It also seems to get quite a bit of attention, which I didn't expect.
Hi James, yes they are pretty well built overall - hope you enjoy yours for many miles to come!
@@TheAlfaNut Very impressed so far! Thank you :) Looking foward to many more miles in it.
I had my 2.2 TI black on tan 159 for 5 years, it’s the best driving FWD car I’ve had the pleasure to drive in anger. The interior is one of the best in any car ever, and those looks are to die for, IMO it needs to be a TI and need twin exhausts (2.2, 2.4, 3.2). I loved the shift feel, very short and positive, love the notchyness. I miss the feeling in other cars.
I assure you, a TI with the seats at their lowest and tilted back has a very sporty driving position for a saloon. Getting into a Giulietta afterwards felt like getting into an SUV.
Hi Chris, thanks for watching - I’m driving a 1750 tbi ti soon, so I’m looking forward to driving a quick 159 next time! 😉
On my 7th Alfa which happens to be a 2010 159 Ti 2.4. Great car, 140,000 km, no problems apart from a set of glow plugs and a new sensor ($8 from Ebay lol). A vastly underrated car. Yes it's an Alfa and needs to be looked after but it's huge performance sedan. Love your work.
Thanks a lot for watching Matt - I haven’t driven the 2.4 yet but I suspect its the best daily driver engine. Will be getting in a tuned 1750 tbi ti soon, so looking forward to making that video! 😉
I own the limited edition. And I absolutely love it. I still look back at it every time I get out of it.
Had the gear box refurbished in the last few months only cost £260. The engine is absolutely sound. I love it.
Hi and thanks for watching! Yes its still the best looking saloon car on the road I think (apart from the Giulia Quadrifoglio perhaps! 😉)
@@TheAlfaNut lol that's the next one to get... in about 10 years lol
Hello I am italian and my 159 sportwagon jtd 2.4 is now painted in green, white and red
Alfa Romeo: the colours of italian flag. Is a 2009 car, sport edition, original beige leather seats. At 368.000 km engine exploded so I found an used 2.4 motor with 130.000 km and I changed. After 2000 km broken the automatic gear: I renew it. Before this breaking no one big problem! Now the car has 385.000 km and it is still amazing to drive! Last week Svitzerland and Austria for work! I forget: I have other three fantastic cars: an amazing Maserati Granturismo Sport 4.7, F1 gear, 2016 with 33.000 km: dark grey paint and dark red interiors; a stunning Ferrari 360 Modena, F1, grey alloi (azul), red interiors, 30.000 km, 2004 and a killer Radical SR8 RX for pista. Believe me: I enjoy my Alpha 159 like the other three. Each great car has its own character and Alpha 159, as daily car thet you can drive like a sport car, is amazing too! About this car I love the general balance, the handling, the perfect seat, the good comfort, the amazing stirrer. I will send photos to Alpha Nuts. By and enjoy your good old cars: new cars are shit cars!!!
Ciao Remo and thanks for your message! I love Maseratis too - I have owned a 2002 4200 Spider and a 2005 4200 coupe - both cambiocorsa cars. I also need a Ferrari one day 😉
I think the 2.4 is probably the best engine for the 159, although the 1750 tbi is a great engine too. Your 159 sounds like it will be very easy to see on the autostrada! 😁
@@TheAlfaNut yes: policeman always smile! Only in switzerland custom I was stopped for long controls... Too much italian!
Ps: 360 is a stunning car: light, nervous, rough, intuitive, amazing. F1 gear is not so bad like all tell: in sport is ferocious and rough, like a real racecar! The metallic sound of 5 valves per cilynder is amazing still with stock exaust: next step race exaust and electronic unit. Grey alloy color is stunning: it shows the real beauty of the car, maybe one of the best Ferrari of all time and now incredibly cheap. Only to found the right one. I buy it two weeks ago in Belgium and have driven it for 1200 km (16 hours) to return home. It has too a sufficent comfort (it don't break my ass). Next week I will do the italian registration. Only to see both Maserati and Ferrari toghether make proud to be italian! Idiots europen and italian politics wants to destroy the italian heritage that is, for the second half last century, history of incredible cars design and manufactured! You made Brexit! You right! By
Hi Remo, you are a lucky man to have such a garage! My friend owned a 360 Modena Spider about 10 years ago and I have been the fastest ever in that car - 260kph with the roof down 😱
A much better car than the 430 I think?
Yes Brexit has finally happened and I hope that our European friends will see that we still love Europe, we just don’t like the EU parliament & people like Guy Verhofstadt ! 🤬
I also hope we will still be allowed into Europe - I am supposed to be visiting the Alfa museum in June to make a video! 😱😳
@@TheAlfaNut Hello my friend: yes, EU is a nest of rats of worst species! Europe is that of Peoples and Nations which have nothing to do with EU and Euro. What are happening in UK about laws to put in jale people who speaks about killer vaxines? Governments want mandatory vaxines for all: see this bunch of bullshit about "coronavirus"... Only in Italy every year 49.000 people die in italian hospitals for infection contracted in hospitals! Eies wide open! You and your patriots are always welcome in Italy and in Europe, of course! You are THE MODEL! About Ferrari 430 I never driven one! I think 360 is more iconic, more beautiful, more light, with a more interesting 8 cilynder (5 valves per cilynder): power is more in 430 but it is not all. I love 360 Modena! In grey alloi and red leather is a piece of art! Sound is sexy! When you come in Italy if you want we can meet: I live in Veneto near Treviso. Soon I will send you photos! By
Remo Crosato i dislike the political part of EU too but please, then leave the EU because hasnt done anything else than usurp money from other EU nations with their financial instability.
Still in my opinion the most beautiful sedan ever designed. The Giulia is for sure top-notch engineeringwise, but the 159 still is a presence to behold on the road, and despite all of the bad rap it was a great family car, unfortunately hampered by a very undertone marketing strategy.
Hi mate, thanks for watching. Yes I think the 159 was a good all round car with the right engine choice and now a great bargain for sure!
Can anyone tell me about the 1.9 JTS version? Looking to buy one as my first car
Hi Jesper - be careful to choose a car with good subframes, as they rust badly on the 159 and Brera! Get the 2.2 if you can - they are better all round. Whichever you choose, get the best maintained car you can afford, with some good service history. Good luck!
I have the 159 2.2JTS 185 SW (Station) A great familly car, rock solid on the road and above 3000rpm the engine really comes to life. The seats can lower down and tilt so I get the sporty feeling. I think the desing /looks of the SW is much nicer than the sedan. It is strong enough to pull a big caravan and it drives very nice with long distances on the motorway. The gearbox 6 speed is very tight if you dont clutch on te good rpm it's getting bumpy. Also if you hit the gas with the faster gasoline version often check the oil regulary, they love to drink oil. (only Selinia)
Yes I agree - the SW is certainly the best looking estate car on the road!
Lovely looking cars especially the ti estate version,the 1750 tbi is the best engine in my opinion ,found the 1.9 diesel to be reliable and torquey if a little unrefined.I hated the clutch on the 2.2 petrol.Great video as usual.
Hi Rob, thanks for watching! Yes the 2.2 has a strange hesitancy when pulling away in 1st too - I noticed it when I drove the Brera.
She's a beauty.
By the way, are you going to feature the Brera? There's no other car like it in the world...
Hi Jakub - thanks for watching! Yes I reviewed the 2.2 Prodrive Brera back in December - look for my Santa Claus outfit! 😆
Fiat Stilo 3dr... Poor mans Brera. I wanted to buy Brera since it came out but it is (still) out of my reach so I got Stilo 3dr with JackRussel-like 1.4 petrol engine.
The new Mazda 3 kinda reminds me of the brera
I have a 159 Sportwagon 1.9 JTDM 210HP (new engine version upgrade) from 2007. And I'm still in love with that design. Cheers, from Portugal 🇵🇹💪😎🍀🐍
Hi Midian, thanks for watching and I hope that Portugal is getting back to normal now?
If the engine is 210hp its 2.4 not 1.9
From my experience Chris when I owned a 06 plate 2.4JTDm Lusso Saloon is 1. Yes the auto wipers were annoying 2. The folding door mirrors had character ( Mind of their own especially the drivers side on mine especially when unfolded )
3. Auto headlights kept to Drivers choice when turned on / off ( Sensor too sensitive)
However I found it having a nice ride especially on the bumpy stuff ..
Very quick because of torque .
Great driving it in snow.
Amusing as one dark morning I was driving it to work and I was pulled in by the police ..
The police following me had panicked when the dpf’s started to regenerate and the tail pipes glowed red.
And assurance words showing them the size of the handbook and saying in here but I cannot remember what page Alfa Romeo say it can happen make them change their mind and leave me alone lol
Oh I miss my 159 😢
Hi Chris, thanks for watching! I'd like to drive the 2.4 as a lot of people are saying it's the best motor. What are you driving now?
The Alfa Nut It is the oh embarrassment of a Seat Leon MK1 😖
I do also have a 156 2.0 JTS Veloce but is on decision as the rear suspension has collapsed and a ton of other work is needed including all belts & tensioners etc etc .
The 2.4 JTDm is a great sounding unit and a bit better in the slightly later models as the weight was reduced & it was increased in horsepower to 210 before it was totally taken out of the model range due to euro emissions.
I am awaiting a decent amount of cash to come through from a investment to get a newer Alfa.
I am in a conundrum go with a older Alfa with the 2.4 JTDm engine such as a 159, Brera , Spider or go with a current Giulia which will be getting cheaper with the 2020 facelifted version soon new on sale ...
It's always nice to find more informations, opinions, reviews, and random stuff about Alfas, and particularly about the one I own, the 159.
I have a 159 SW 1.9jtdm 150bhp. I found the SW more beautiful than the standard car, and more beautiful than any other SW. I do have the same set of interior color, for me, the most beautiful.
I do find the 150bhp enough but it does lack a bit of a punch. Summer tires get me a 8L/100km urban and 6L/100 combined, Highway get's me 6L at 100-110km/h, 6.5L at 120-125km/h. Winter tires substracts 0.5L/100km.
The gearbox it's precise but slow, together with the lack of punch when you accelerate from stop it does make a slow start.
My seats are similar and I love the quality of the leather. The car has 123k km on the clock and although the front seats, specially mine are a bit wear out in the sides, I think they are in great shape.
Driving position took me 1 year (I have back problems) to find, but once I got it right, it's amazing. To bad there's no memory. I do trips of 2000km with minor discomfort by the end.
The automatic wipers.... yes, piece of crap. The parking sensors.. the best I used (I have the 4/4 package)
I have Xenon headlight, this car used 1Ds models, very expensive.
Exhaust is silent, and hardly any smoke.
I have BOSE system sound. Not superb, but good. If you drive close to the front the sound might be a bit frontal, but if you get yourself a bit back it get''s really good.
Blue and Me system is crap. The Usb drive does not read all the files(I mean it does read mp3, but if you put 200 files in a USB PEN, it will only read about 70 or 100 and keep on looping the same songs).
I can't park straight because of the car curvature. :) Love it shape though.
Chassi is very solid, the car does not need such big tires also, it would withstand 200bhp no problem.
Trunk door is narrow but there's plenty of space for almost everything.
I have headlights waterjets I had to disable them, they consume 7L of water in one week. (One waterjet for each headlight, 6 headlights...)
Construction is solid despite myths, center console does not move, plastic in the doors upper part are kinda rubber instead of rigid plastics.
Curiosity: Since I started driving I never got a crack on my windshield, however I already changed my Alfa windshield twice... aerodynamics problem maybe?
Yes, I'm dying inside because there's no Giulia SW. :'(
I'm driving a 156 at the moment and in a few days (I hope) my new 159 2.4 Q4 :)
I'm looking forward to the hack Video!
Thanks for watching - my 156 is getting some love at the moment, ready to get back on the road after a 2 year restoration! Hope you love your 2.4!
How is the 156 for reliability in your experience?
@@malcolmhardwick4258 For a car which cost me 2k, it was great. I drove it 1.5 years and around 30k-40k km. Now I can't get TÜV because of rust and some electrical problems
The 2.4 Q4 is really nice to drive. But you better remove the swirl flaps. They can break and cause severe damage to the engine.
My 156 has been very reliable apart from a few small electrical problems. Busso engines are super reliable if maintained properly 👍🏻
I am now (finally!!) the proud owner of a 159 sportwagon 😎 it has rust, warning lights, weird knocks, failed parking sensors, failed glow plugs and other strange quirks but I honestly can't stop looking at it inside and out it is simply one of the best looking cars ever made 😁 now starts the long road of making everything work again 😁 cheers alfanut!! 🇮🇹
I have one 159 2.0jtdm 170bhp with almost 250k km..still runs perfectly fine! I love the car and I plan to keep it for my boy for when he gets older and has a driving license :D :D
Hi Joao - they are very reliable for sure. Your Son will appreciate the cool “retro vibe” too! 😁
good to know they can get there :) my 2.0 is at 174k km
@@pyroclasm1 This series of engines seem very reliable!
@@pyroclasm1 I am expecting to get at least 300k and then save it for my boy! But you can definetely expect a very good car! Reliable and with enough power. Actually they are quite economical as well. I just did a trip of 400 km and averaged 4.8 l/100km!!! (58mpg)
I just love the damn car :D :D :D :D
Mine: A 2007 159 2.4 Lusso, red (of course!) tweaked for better throttle response and about 235 bhp / 350 ft lbps of torque. Recently went to Scotland (Loch Tay area) from Kent and the car was superb averaging 45mpg, cruise control helped as well. Thing is though, it does make me feel good and most other 159 / Brera / Spider owners must feel the same because we'll acknowledge each other when we see another one (and let's face it you don't see many about unfortunately). Had it 3 1/2 years now and I still can't park it and walk away without looking back at it! Is that sad or normal?
(Main draw back, you're right about the gearbox being "notchy", even more so when it's cold!)
Hi Steve, sounds good - the 2.4 is the motor to have I reckon. Its not sad to look back at your car, its just a sign that you have the right car! 😉
Very normal to look back at your 159!!
Love the look of these cars. I have a 2010 159 in Stromboli Grey. Beautiful!
I love that colour too! Thanks for watching Lee.
Hey i am about to buy a 159 jtdm 120 ps 100.500km
but the owner told me it makes a noise in the 3 4 gear so what should i do.... :( got german new HU TÜV so i dont know
Hi Thony, unless the car is very cheap - look for a different 159! The 159 gearbox is not very good anyway but if this one has a fault, it will cause you bigger problems later. There are plenty of 159's to choose from, so be patient and find one with good service history and no problems! Good luck.
M32 gearbox once it starts whining while chew itself up unless you rebuild it
I recently bought a 2008 159 sport sport wagon. The 2.4 JTDm TI, and what a vehicle, the most comfy drive I have ever owned. It’s also been mapped and goes extremely well! Great channel btw !
Hi Vini - thanks for watching, glad you like the channel! I never got to drive the 2.4 but it seemed like the best all-rounder for the 159, especially if mapped and more poky! Enjoy 👍🏻😉
I daily drive a 156 which I love it’s my third Alfa and I love it I have had 2 years no trouble I suppose when it has gone maybe a159 or a t spark spider for fun which driving should always be .i am not a millionaire but I love my alfas real cars Si Si si grazie Mille ciao
Hi James, thanks for watching - I have a 1998 156 and I love it, such a fun and pretty car!
I’ve just bought a 2009 159 today 1.9 ti and I love it 👌🏼
Hi Michael - good choice, hope you enjoy it mate!
Huge yes from me love driving my 159
what engine ? i have one 1.9 jtdm
I just got a 1.8 TBI ti and the window regulator went in the first week
Sorry to hear that Dildeep - did you get it fixed?
@@TheAlfaNut all done 👍
@@dildeepsingh3926 Thanks Dildeep - first intro video is live now!
The 159 is the most seductive sedan of all time..........I drove a 2,4 JTD for almost 2 years as a company car here in South Africa and never experienced any problem or hick up of any kind (fabulous fuel economy).........delightful and exciting to drive at every moment..........I really miss it
I have a 2006 2.4 Turbo diesel, Manual with Ti Rims and Skirts. By far the best car i have owned. :) (also have 2x 2.0 Alfetta's and a '75' in the garage)
The whole car has been quality repainted in a metallic maroon and the Ti rims in a metallic grey. Has the same tan interior as the one your in. Its at 156,000 kms and it hasn't missed a beat since i've owned it.
Here in Australia the roads are quite shite most places so cant play around too much, i've broken 2 Ti rims on the shittily built country roads where i live. Which weren't easy to find or cheap to replace!
But the fuel consumption is amazing! I average about 4.5L /100km @ 100kmph. On a motorway nearer the city i was cruising at 145kmph at 4.8L/100k's on cruise control. This car was built to be powerful yet efficient, and can tell that it was developed for Europe's Superstrada's and Autobahns.
Sadly modern cars are less efficient and weigh even more. Mine is about 1635kg, about 215hp, and around 250kmph top speed and can go up to 1100kms cruising just over the 100kmph speed limits.
((Mine must have been modified under the hood also, bc the book top speed is 228 and i've had it to 245 relatively easy. ))
It is more efficient than all newer modern common cars of similar size. The only others i've found to be similarly efficient are new diesel Mercedes and a couple other high end brands which 'claim' around 6.5L/100k's.
I bought it 2 yrs ago for AUD $6400 with all the Ti kit already on it, which is pennies compared to the quality, luxury and performance this car has. The biggest cost has been insurance and rego as usual, grrrr.
Hi Langdon & thanks for watching! Your car sounds good - nice colour combo there. I think you're right about the 159 being built for comfort and motorway use, it's certainly not a back road scratcher! Hope you haven't had too hard a time with the fires mate?
6 out of 5 gorgeous. The best looking 4 door car to ever come to production at any point of the time.
Hi Tahsin - thanks for watching!
Great video :) I have a 2011, 1750 Sportwagon which I found after lots of waiting! Absolutely love it. Your welcome to have a drive if you wanted to.
Please try a 2.4Ti 210 bhp sportwagon like mine. One that has a proper remap, dpf removed, EGR blocked, swirl flaps removed and intake cleaned. You then get around 245 bhp and 500 Nm of torque, like mine. It literally changes the car. You can set the sensitivity of the wipers on the stalk, it works quite well actually.
Hi Reinier - yes I will try a 2.4, I like big powerful diesel engines :0)
I've got a high mileage quantum of solace edition 1.9 jtdm. I can honestly say it's the best car I've ever ever had. Bit smokey when cold but other than that, it's perfect. Only cost me just over a grand as well.
Hi Robin, thats a bargain - enjoy! 👍🏻
How high?
@@blackcarmafia real high cos I'm just so fly.
144k
Not a fan then Chris? I think you'd probably enjoy a Ti a bit more, especially one that's been tweaked with a 200bhp minimum, and had a few bits sorted - the 2.4 JTDm or the TBi aren't to be missed.
Looking forward to the next installment 👍
Hi Andy, funny you should mention it - a 237 bhp tbi is next on my schedule. The 1.9 jtdm is a perfect all rounder daily, just a bit dull performance wise.
@@TheAlfaNut very nice, keen to hear about the mods to the TBi, whilst my 159 isn't a patch on the old 147 I had, it's still a decent handling car given its weight.
@@andyfalconer3508 I think the 170 bhp version of the 1.9 diesel in a 147 would be a lot of fun? ;0)
@@TheAlfaNut absolutely, stick a remap on it and the q2 (if not already on) and you've got a serious little motor - I'd say that sadly I had the 1.6, but nothing sad about it, I loved that little car, already keeping an eye out for a Ducati 147.
If you ever venture into Hampshire, let me know, you can have a lend of my remapped 2.4 Ti for comparison, it's sticking out somewhere in the region of 260bhp and 442ft-lb (600Nm)
I was very close to getting a TBi 159 but could not stomach the price. Amazing what a difference the Ti package makes!
The 159 got a more “germanic” built quality. But more heavy too, along with a very notchy gear selector, as you pointed out. That’s why 4 cylinders cars are a little bit ordinary to drive. I bought a 3.2 v6 Q4 recently, and it’s a different animal. Please feel free to drive it on your next visit to Costa Rica. Cheers.
Hi Luis - thanks for watching and for your kind offer! I'd like to drive the 3.2 v6!
This is really timeless design.
Thanks for watching mate 👍🏻
2.4 Ti Sportwagon is probably my favourite. Black or dark grey, red or tan leather trim.
Yes we all say we want the V6, but I have one in my Spider and it’s not practical as a daily driver.
Seriously think it might be a bargain all rounder for the family sports estate.
Hi Mark, thanks for watching. Yeah the 2.4 is the motor for everyday I suspect, although it's a heavy old lump! I also have a V6 Spider but they do like a drink! ;0)
The ti only has black leather with red stitching. I have the 2.4 Sportwagon in ti trim. The lowered suspension and 19” wheels give it a much more imposing stance than the standard variants.
the problem with the v6 is that it isn’t a busso, so no real reason to get it
i might have found a good 159 2.4 20v
am trying to get an appointment to visit it
hope for the best
N.B., Not an Alfa owner (anymore, sadly) -- I had a few roadsters before getting my first Alfa: An MG Midget, an MGB and a Triumph TR6. All were fine, and fun to shift. When I took out my first Alfa (a 1750 GTV), and experienced that transmission, I fell in love- A Five speed, long throw, and so smooth. It seemed to coax me to use my whole arm to toss it into gear. Like it preferred I shift with elan, even when I was all alone. It was glorious and felt as though I was conducting a symphony. It was an unforgettable experience that held through my next Alfa, a Spider 2000. Same deal. When I got my Alfetta, I was a bit let down, with it having a trans-axle in the rear. Still, the memory of my previous Alfas have ever defined for me, just how glorious an car could be.
The 159 looks great. I'm not sure if we got that over the pond.
No you didn’t sadly, along with a few other good Alfas like the (916) GTV and the 156. If you want to revisit that Alfa love affair, try a new Giulia Veloce or Quadrifoglio. They really connect in a way that other cars don’t.
Hi, i have 159 1.9 181hp, and that car flies, even if its that heavy its very fast, im driving it for a year and half now, and everytime i park it, i look back at her same as the girls do when i drive it. She is so beautiful.
This year i decided to give her some smile on it and im currently waiting her to be finished. Tinted glasses, new rims and sport exhaust, so i cant wait to get back to her this wednesday, and to hear new sound! Its a great car and i can't be more happy to have her.
Hi mate, thanks for watching! Yes I think the car I drove had a problem as it didnt feel very quick. Glad you are loving yours! 👍🏻
I think that the automatic windscreen wipers are actually quite good with this car. The interval/response time is quite quick compared to some 2020/21 cars.
Hi Kalvar - maybe you are right - the automatic wipers in my Giulia are very slow as well though, maybe it's because it rains less in Italy!
i bought myself a 159 1.8tbi. I never want another car again!! Not everything is perfect but that car got soul!
Hi Simon, thanks for watching and congrats on the tbi! In fact, I'm making a 3rd video about the 159, which will feature a 1.8tbi "ti" with 240 bhp! Watch out for that one.
@@TheAlfaNut I'm looking forward!!
How is fuel consumption per 100km
@cedomir at the moment about 11 litres, but it depends how you drive it 👍
@@simonbrandl7915 well... you know, its alfa. I have 156 diesel and was considering petrol engine since diesel is full of stupid sensors made by BOSCH crap
Hi there My first car was the Alfa 156 105 Hp, now I own my first wonderful Alfa Romeo 159 berina 120 Hp from 2007 diesel in silver color , since one year with 255.000kms now it’s about 281.000km real pleasure to drive lot of options real agressive look that’s why I was in love but really heavy, I putted some customs to makes it at my taste. I would like a Brera but the consumption is way to crazy so I’ll choose next the 159 Ti 170 is enought Hp for the weight
Hi Jay,mthanks for watching - I will be driving a 1750 tbi in my next 159 video!
Hi frined, for Odometer flashing also removing the batery and replece it with a hig amperaj wil make te Odometer flash? I have that isue on a 159 that i whant to buy
Hi mate, sorry I’m not sure about that problem but the GT I owned also had a flashing odometer. I never knew why! 🙄
Great video. Fairly new to Alfa ownership myself. Bought a new Giulietta Veloce about 3 weeks ago. For the price nothing else can touch it. Years ago I use to own a Fiat 130TC Abarth. The superb induction noise of the Alfa reminds me of my old Fiat.
Thanks for watching Jamie, glad you enjoyed it and yes the Giulietta Veloce is a hoot - well done for buying a new one & supporting Alfa.
I’m planning to drive one soon for an episode. What do you like best about it?
@@TheAlfaNut So far I've only put about 1200kms on the clock and I'm still running her in. Picking one thing I like best about the Giulietta is tough and she looks, sounds, and performs superbly. However it's the handling that I like the best. I haven't been anywhere near her limits and probably never will. The steering is light but direct and the ride is pretty good for a hot hatch.
My last car was an AWD Volvo V50, with a similar power output to the Alfa. Other than more interior space I can't think of anything that the Volvo did better.
My only grip so far is the Dual Clutch transmission. It seems to hold on to first gear too long and at other times changes up too soon.
Will look forward to seeing your review on the Giulietta.
I wish for Alfa romeo 147 from 2004. Damn, I dont care about what my friends says bad things about Alfa. I love Alfa Romeo, and when I grow up I am going to buy Alfa Romeo.
Yes do it! ;0)
@@TheAlfaNut I will
Good job my man 😀 a true Alfa nut. I have had the 159 3.2 Q4 and the 2.4 JTD. I loved them both but they killed me on repairs. The 3.2 was great fun though. Best Alfa I ever owned was the 166 3.2 V6.... but that was also challenging as getting the parts for it are very difficult.
Hey Sam, thanks for watching! Yep the cost of repairs is an issue with the 159 for sure. They are cheap to buy now though! The 3.2 Busso is quite an engine 👍🏻
Hey Alfa nut... The 159 Alfa Romeo 3.2 V6 automatic gear box. Is this a car you would say is a 'good' car overall not sluggish is it?
Hi Ateeq, i haven’t driven the 3.2 but its probably the most practical out of all the lineup, especially for UK weather. Its pretty heavy with the V6 and 4x4 though, so not that quick 😕
Hi don’t no if u can help me I got a 159ti 1.9 diesel and I have system code come up on dash and can’t shift it can’t find any info on this thanks justin
Hi Justin, best advice I can give is to go to www.alfaowner.com and join (its free) then ask the question in the 159 owners section. Someone there will be able to help for sure. Otherwise, get the car scanned for fault codes at a garage or try downloading the fiatecuscan software and do it yourself. Good luck 👍🏻
Thinking about buying a 159 SW as my first car and you just convinced me :)
Thanks for watching mate - good luck with the 159! 👍🏻
I have an 08 jtdm sportwagon. Best damn used car I've bought. I took it between bologna and Rimi and clocked 240kph and I think it could of gone further. This car handles amazing. 0 to 100 6.6 secs.
1.9 Jtd gearbox is not so solid, tends to breakdown. If You have a 2.4 Jtdm You get a much better gearbox, it is rock solid. Ours has reach 250 000 Km...
Hi Henrik, thanks for watching! I would like to drive the 2.4
@@TheAlfaNut Come to Sweden and try my wife 2.4 Jtdm Q4 Ti Sportwagon...Yes it is 4-wheel drive ;-)
Thanks, I’d love to! 😉
Manual gearbox - yes, but Auto is AISIN for all ar159.
@@MrNStK I really hated that Auto, ok maybe it was that example. But it was in a 159 3.2 V6 Q4, but it was really bad, the upshift and down shift didn't match rpm, it hold the gear to long , both up and down. kickdown was slow ....so really hated it.
Hi, i have a 2.4 JDTM in my sight. Does anyone have some useful advice for what to pay attention to?
Gearbox issues and dodgy (rusty) subframes are two things to be wary of. Otherwise its a fantastic engine 👍🏻
NO gearbox is the f40 the m32 box is the crap one in the 1.9 @@TheAlfaNut
No one test 1.9 jts or 2.2 jts ☹️ or is it a warning signal? It is said that they are consuming too much fuel, about 11liters and they are slow high maintanance cars. Thinking about 2.2 jts 159 or an mk3 2.5 v6 mondeo. Mondeo seems a better realistical buy.
Hi Peter, sorry for the late reply - the Mondeo is not really much more reliable than the Alfa but it is a bit faster. The Alfa is way more attractive to look at though!
Really enjoyed the video!
I have a 159 TBi which I've had for 2 and a half years, traded in my trusty 147 1.6 for it and wow what a motor it is, I dont think I got the best one as I've spent so much on it already but even in it's current standard form at 200hp it really does go like the clappers compared to what I'm used to! Look forward to seeing more videos! Everyone that's had a go on my 159 has been converted to the Alfa Romeo way hehe
Hi mate, thanks for watching! Glad to hear you are enjoying your tbi - I’m making a vid about that car very soon so keep an eye out! ☹️
Same thing here. Have 2 159's, a 1.9 jtdm and a tbi ti. Great engines, amazing ride, god damn expensive to mantain as a whole. Except the engine, they had the same identical failures, from electric cables, ecu, suspension, to the damn noise made by the rear doors hinges and breakage of the plastic sprocket of the electric motor motor. They know how to make cars that put a smile on your face...till you have to visit the service station. 320k km on the 1.9jtdm and 165 on the tbi
I've got 2 156's and a 159. The 156 has brilliant handling on dry roads and has brilliant feedback through the steering, it's hard not to drive it flat out all the time, on wet roads you have to restrain yourself in the corners though as she will slide, the 159 is the opposite though, while it doesn't feel as sporting of a drive there is still fantastic feedback from the steering and can be pushed through corners on wet roads way faster than a 156. In fact on wet Irish roads once you get used to a 159 it's hard to have faith in the handling of any other saloon car, always heel/toe and blip the throttle on the down change.
Thanks for watching Darren, interesting what you say about the 156 vs the 159. Is your 159 a 4wd version? I have a 2.5 v6 156 and I agree that it encourages you to drive flat out all the time! 😉
@@TheAlfaNut Mine are all just front wheel drive.
@@darrenwalsh6242 Mine too! ;0)
I agree fully when you drive on wet/snow on an alfa 159ti you cant ever drive an other car the same way ! But i can still give credit to the 156 as its extremely reliable too on wet/snowy road
I've added a 2.0 916 gtv to the Alfa fleet, another brilliant car that brings a smile to my face, for a small car it has quite a bit more room in the cabin than my 308 gtb/qv despite the rear seat's, saying that, you wouldn't have adult's in the rear seat's for lack of leg room, but perfect for small children.
What about the 1750 ? Was it any good ? Most cars in my country are the 1.8 or the 1750.
Yes the 1750 was probably the best engine, along with the 2.4 diesel
I’m buying a 159 next Thursday, great video!
Thanks for watching Patricio! I hope you love your 159! 👍🏻🇮🇹
Proud owner of a 159 berlina 1.9 jts. The looks are breathtaking and the ride is very comfortable while its alsof quite capable for some sporty driving. Many people dont like the petrol engines ( except for the tbi) but i really like it. I really dont know where all that hate for the 1.9jts is coming from. Also i live in the Netherlands so a diesel is quite expensive to own.
Hi Ryan, thanks for watching - the 159 is an overlooked Alfa thats for sure. 🙂
Hi, i want to buy an 2008 sedan grey alfa 159 1.9jts 160, it has 80.000km (It shows on speedometer atleast), manual gearbox 6 speed, orange leather interior, 17inch wheels, and that all, no xenon or parking sensors/navi.car has expired mot/tuv since 2013 and hasn't been driven since, it comes from Italy.
It had engine distributions chains belt, tensioner and water pump along with the whole kit replaced new, but still has some issues with the oil pump( new oil pump required). Price bargained is 2000euro...
What do you think about it? I don't fancy diesel at all and I had the jtdm engine and I think petrol suits an alfa best. Also I look only after 1.9 jts natural aspirated engine. What do you think? Worth buying?
The killer for the 1.9 diesel, in Ireland is the tax. It's 570euro while a similar Mondeo is 280
That's a car killer for sure!
That ridiculous isn’t it? Why so high?
I like the 159 especially as a Sportwagon but currently I drive a Lancia Delta 1.4 844 or as you guys over in the UK say Chrysler Delta.
Ooh - I love a Lancia Delta! My first car was a Lancia Beta Coupe!
I just did a check, this isn't the 1.9jtdm, the 1.9 had 150bhp, the 2.0jtdm originally had 138bhp, and then it was upped to 170bhp, the model that you are driving is a 2.0jtdm 170 bhp.
Yes I know - I apologised in the following vid for getting it wrong. There was a problem with the car though - it was very underpowered.
@@TheAlfaNut ah yes I have seen that video now, I sent the message before seeing it. Well I have a 1.9jtdm 150bhp and boy does it go, as long as you have it in the right gear that is!
When can we expect the other 2 videos on the 159?
Hi Matthew, I’ll be putting them out in the next few weeks 👍🏻
Just subscribed to your channel and enjoyed this piece very much. I have just sold a 159, only a wimpy 1.8mpi but I loved it. Such a beautiful car and in Rosso red. It was a Lusso with an interior the same as the one in the video. It got many an admiring glance and I will miss its practicality as I now have a 2.2jts Brera/Spider which was love at first sight. I would be interested to see what you think of them.
Cheers Steven, I drove a 2.2 Brera in my Xmas video and really liked it. Haven’t driven the Spider version yet but hope to do that sooner or later.
Interesting Video, but what are your detailed thoughts on the 2007 2.2 Brera Petrol Manual FWD Version ?
Specifically: Underbody Chassis/Subframe/Suspension Corrosion/Rusting Problems
Step Up OR Step Down ?
More like a step sideways I would say? The Brera wheelbase is 170mm shorter, so handling tends be a little more nimble but the same problems beset both cars: notchy gearbox, rusty subframes, excess weight and blunted performance as a result. I have only driven the 2.0 jts Brera Prodrive edition, which handled well due to stiffer and lower suspension and looked great but the ride was harsh on the 19” wheels and it still felt heavy. To be fair though I could live with it because its so gorgeous and even better looking than the 159! I would probably buy the V6 4WD and use it for Winter fun! Decision decisions 😄
@@TheAlfaNut Thanks for your very clear and comprehensive response - particularly your comment on the 'rusty subframes' - l have a 2007 2.2 Brera Petrol FWD on offer - immaculate paintwork and the shutlines are all in order - owner guarantees there have been no 'shunts', 'scrapes' and/or 'carpark dings'. However, its not the topside that l am so much concerned about, but the 'Italian disease' underneath - RUST !!! Are the rusty subframes a real issue or a 'minor concern' on these cars ?
Thanks again in advance for your thoughts.
Hey, where can i get that front bumper from the thumbnail?
:)
Sorry - not sure but it's definitely aftermarket!
I'll have to add this to 'Watch Later' for when I'm ready. It still breaks my heart that I kissed goodbye to my black 159 3.2 V6 last year after 9 great years of companionship. I thought she would last me forever. It was not to be. Such is life.
Sorry you had to part company - they are very cheap now, you could always nab a bargain “Sunday driver” for sunny days?
I own a 159 sportwagon, 2.0 jtdm. Currently 200km 460Nm. The best car I have ever owned. Driving this car is pure pleasure. I drove a company Giulia Quadrifoglio for a while, it's my dream car.
Hi Andee, thanks for watching! Yes Alfa do make a nice diesel engine. I’ve just been given a 2.4 Brera to fix up, so looking forward to driving that! The Quadrifoglio is an awesome car 100%
Nice video,i heard the 159 rust underneath,is that true,i am thinking of getting one.
Hi Peter - thanks for watching, much appreciated. Yes, the 159 does have some rust issues: suspension spring platforms sometimes, inner arches where they meet the floorpan, the usual areas. Not as bad as earlier cars like the 156 though.
I've a 56 plate 2.4, must have replaced most things on it.😂 Good design doesn't get old, it's certainly a beautiful car.
Still looks great to me! 🙂
How much would you expect this to cost to maintain compared to something more like a golf or polo? Getting a second car and would love soemthing more exciting
Probably a little more than a Golf, as there are millions of Golfs and not that many 159's! Golfs are boring man - come on!
A workhorse - a great way to describe it! My 2.4 has done over 210k miles, what is still original: DMF, clutch, driveshafts, DPF etc. Components that fail more early on many manufacturers cars. Great improvement on body rust protection and electronics over previous Alfa models. Interiors look and feel better than other cars of same value. 159's have some weak points also- the front suspension components aren't very durable, handbrake is weak, the body gets corroded over time(boot, subframes) without attention, and the car is very heavy. Also the smaller GM gearbox is not very good as you said. 3.2 JTS and 2.4 diesel have much stronger gearboxes. Although the pretty design, I'd say a 159 is not a fragile italian, it is a very strong machine and easy to work on. It really has some german feel in it as mentioned on these comments (Bosch engine electronics and fuel injection systems etc) it even says VDO on the instrument panel.
I agree - it felt more like a BMW than an Alfa Romeo!
@@TheAlfaNut well, that was the market they were targeting after all ;)
As a 159 2.2 JTS Sportswagon owner I agree - it's 1.500Kgs of serious metal to get moving, so the upper range engines make life much easier going.
Haha, that’s true I guess. I just drove a remapped 1750 tbi and that was a really nice experience - 230bhp. 👍🏻
What year is your car?
@@whtalt92any issues and changes on the car ?
I have a 2.4 auto, I think equivalent to your Ti versions almost with almost fully loaded options - though no Satnav mind you. Remapped to avoid turbo lag that meant your average Corolla could get one off you off at the lights. Drives brilliantly. Still suffers from the occasional acceleration flutter when increasing speed after staying on highway constant cruise speed for some time.
Hi Vince, thanks for watching! I’m only sorry that I didnt get to drive a 2.4 - to me it seems like the best all round engine for the car.
Hi Chris - great videos.. I've had the 159 2.4jtdm sportwagon and now have the 2.4 saloon.. I love them, they're reliable, handle well and the design holds well against some newer models. For me, it's the best value Alfa one can buy. Not keen on the 1.9 diesel but need to buy another 159 as my partner wants my car..so looking to get the Spider 2.4diesel and tweek it for extra power and fun driving. Would love the 1750 petrol too.. looking forward to the next video.😃
Hi Carlo - thanks for watching! If I was buying a 159 it would be either a 2.4 Sportwagon (tuned!) or the 1750 tbi. I will be driving and reviewing a 1750 tbi very soon for another video, so watch out for that!
I have an 159. Its for ever the most beautiful car in the world for me. A timeless design . Nobody can beat this .
Thanks for watching Jorg, it certainly is a very pretty car!
@@TheAlfaNut thanks a lot 👍
Thanks for yet another informative and entertaining video Chris.
As it goes I was thinking of selling my 156 sw ti and getting a 159 sw ti after watching this I think I might hold on to the 156 for a few more years! By the way as that a GTV ph3 2.0 JTS i spotted lurking in your new man cave?
Hi Steve, yes it is - it belongs to Gary who is using it as a test bed currently for www.totallyalfa.com parts!
@@TheAlfaNut That's good to hear, two of my Boys have JTS engined Gtv's and as you know parts are scarce!
What about the Alfa Romeo 159 mpi 1.8? Anyone any suggestions to buy it?
Hi mate - watch my previous video on this car to see what I think: th-cam.com/video/HKenxPY-SHY/w-d-xo.html
You didnt even mention what what 159 you were driving. What model and what engine was it?
Hi Nostric - it was a 2.0 jtdm Lusso but I made a mistake and said it was a 1.9! 🙄 Sorry
I have the TBI1.75 in black I’ve had it chipped up to 254 bhp ,and from what I can see these are one of the very few Alfa’s not crashing in value.
Have owned a 159 ti 1.9 Diesel since new in October 2008. Wonderful car. Now with 160k miles. NOT expensive to maintain. My 3rd Alfa in a row. Still the best looking sedan on the road.
Hi Ian, thanks for watching the video! Yes, it's still the best looking sedan you can buy, regardless of price!
@@TheAlfaNut Absolutely have to agree Chris. I had a GT 1.9 diesel (Stromboli Grey with Red Leather) before that. And a 156 Sportwagon 1.8 twin spark before that!! Been driving Alfas for the last 16 years! Would REALLY love to get back into a GT Cloverleaf. Really enjoying your videos. Many thanks!!
@@ianbrady1525 Glad you are enjoying the vids Ian - let me know what you'd be interested in seeing on my channel - all suggestions welcome. Cheers!
What is better to buy now the Gt or 159 both with the 1.9 diesel???
Hi, thanks for watching! The GT is faster and more sporty to drive, the 159 is more practical and a newer design. Take your choice! 😉
The Alfa Nut what about reliability? I also like more the gt ..just for ask
The Alfa Nut and how about 147 or gt with 1.9 ??
I have a GT with the 1.9 diesel engine and its a great car. Better looking and bigger boot space than the 147. Both cars have the same chassis, so have the same problems. I would choose the GT personally 👍🏻😉
The Alfa Nut really thank u man
I am considering buying a 2007 385K-km automatic ALFA ROMEO 159 SPORTWAGON 2.4 JTD Q-TRONIC DISTINCTIVE priced less than 2500euro.
Hi Cherryblossom! That is a great engine - probably the best all-round choice! Good luck 👍🏻
I have 1.9JTS, and it's a little bit better than 2.2 if you drive on highway. JTS not JTD)
Thanks for watching! 👍🏻
Best colours for those are silver or light grey/gold, i own a silver with blue leather ,have had black, red gold, whte 159s before but the lines are shown best on the silvers
Had some problems with my current 2.4jtd qtronic, lots of vaccum leaks resulting in slugish acceleration and no top.speed.
Coolant hoses get old crack and spill all over the engine.
Intake manifold is a mess because of the egr , this is for all 2.4 ,the fix is to dismantle the intake and delete the flaps.
It's an enormous job and not a diy.
Besides of that car is immensely comfortable ,gearbox is good ,acceleration is decent if your in the powerband and not above 3500rpm.
Hi mate, thanks for watching! Yes my GT 1.9 has had the swirl flaps deleted too! The 2.4 is the best engine for daily driving I think don’t you? 👍🏻
@@TheAlfaNut it is , but for long distances, for town it is a bit lasy.