Alfa Romeo 159 - Bargain Beauty or Best Avoided? Here's What I Found Out!!
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- The Alfa Romeo 159 had many variations, and all of them were gorgeous to look at but are they worth buying, or are they just "style above substance"? 15 years after the 159 was first launched, prices have tumbled and Chris The Alfa Nut investigates whether these stunning saloons are now an incredible bargain or whether they are best avoided!
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I think the 159 nose, is the best looking ever on a sedan. Peroid.
I agree, its beautiful
Yea thats true :D
@@tihomirsusamov1895 but the 156 is way more beautiful overall.
@@miyahtallulah maybe but we are talking about sedans
Fallingout EMS ..... I concur .... it would even give my Stelvio Q a better look !! ... ;-)
Interior of the 159 is a design masterpiece. Have a Giuiletta and always fancied a 159. Alfas are the best looking cars in the marketplace 👍
Thanks for watching David - I agree with you 👍🏻
the giulietta is better but the 159 is more enjoyable to drive]
The only tiny thing wrong with the looks of the 159 is the front overhang is a bit "much". But that's entirely forgivable. The Giulietta is awkward, it's miles better than the Golf, Astra, Focus etc but it's clear that modern safety and practicality weighted heavily on it's design.
Aside from the cup holder designed for an espresso
An espresso is all an Italian needs! 😉
in 2000 when i was a 16yrs old teen,first time saw a 156 in a showroom in beijing.i was completely shocked.what a beautiful car!!from that day i became an alfisti.in 2017,alfa came to china mainland and i have my giulia veloce.dream finnaly come true!!
The Giulia Veloce is indeed a wonderful car! I have a 2017 model with the adaptive suspension and all the gimmicks, and I love it to bits! Best salon car I've ever owned and a blast to drive on both country roads and the Autobahn. I love to give BMWs, Mercedes and Porsches a hard time. On a straight track, they can show off their horsepower, but as soon as the road gets curvy, the fun starts and they start to struggle.
@@joergmaass Hi chaps, I'm definitley getting a Giulia as my next daily driver but can't decide whether to be sensible and get a top-spec Veloce, or sell the kids for medical experiments and buy a Quadrifoglio!
@@TheAlfaNut As much as I'm craving a QF, I think the Veloce is the better choice for a daily driver. Also, you definitely need to have experience with high power cars before you can safely drive a QF, it is from a different planet...
@@TheAlfaNut I've heard rumours about that engine having issues with the crankshaft ( 2.0 turbo ). Worth investigating further before buying one.
156 design aged pretty well
Chris: "This weather's terrible!"
Also Chris: *lives in U.K.*
But seriously, that Alfa is absolutely stunning
Yeah it kind of goes without saying really doesn’t it? Road testing in January - I must be a real nut!
Honestly thank you so much for being one of the VERY few people talking about the astonishingly beautiful (and unreliable) company’s we call Alfa
Thanks very much for watching Jon - glad you appreciate the brand too. 🙂🍀
Totally agree on the intermittent wipers having a mind of their own. The function does work fairly well when the wiper blades are new but starts to act strangely once they wear a bit and may not clear the little sensor completely.
As a person that has been on all alfas like the 33, 147, 156/156 facelift and the 159 ti i can say with all my heart that the 159 ti is the most beautiful car i have ever seen, periot !
Agreed - it is a beautiful car!
Have always loved the 159 one of the best looking saloons of all time and was seriously considering getting one. Got a 147 1.9 JTD 150 instead due to smaller size and better insurance and I prefer hatchbacks anyway and it is by far the best car I have owned. Great video by the way 😊
Hi Aman, thanks for watching! Yes hatchbacks are more fun to drive for sure - I drove a 147 GTA recently for an upcoming video and loved it 🙂
Hi, thanks for the video! I'm a 159 owner, a 2.4 Ti Qtronic. Wonderful car. Reliable, fast, fun to drive. And oh so beautiful. To my mind the last of the beautiful Alfas (8C aside). I've had mine remapped, and it produces 240bhp and 480Nm of torque. No problems with the remap at all. The only downside to my car is the heavy fuel consumption, exacerbated by the auto box. I'm lucky to get much over 20mpg around town. Almost twice that on the motorway though. It's a brilliant, serene motorway cruiser. Mine has taken me all over Europe with no problems. Anyway, thanks again, for drawing attention to these underrated cars. I have subscribed to your channel :-)
Thanks Ric, yes I’d like to try out a 2.4 - to me it seems like the best compromise of all the engines: quick, torquey, economical (sometimes!) and with 5 cylinders it sounds great too!
I love my ti Sportwagon. It runs the 2.4 diesel and there’s no complaints about the acceleration (once the turbo gets going). I never get tired of looking at it and it’s a beautiful car to drive. So comfortable and I love the steering feel. Mine’s done 140,000km now and it’s as solid as a rock. No rattles or squeaks and everything works. The only complaints I’d have are the lack of cabin storage and cup holders and the horrible Bluetooth system.
The build quality is a big plus on these cars and everyone seems to agree on this. I suspect that 2.4 motor is also the best choice (apart from the 1750 tbi perhaps?)
Just got a alfa 156 1.6 as my first car, while it is from 2003 its completely rust free!
Really enjoying your channel, you inspired me to get an alfa
Hi Yoran, thanks for watching and I’m very happy that you enjoy your 156 - its a great car, I have one too and I love it! Cheers 👍🏻
Got an 156 too, rust free as well, mine is diesel.
I own a 159 SW lusso 1.9 16v and I feels quick enough. I’ve owned it for nearly a year now and it’s been very reliable. Top car, as happy now as I was when I bought it.
Hi Jack, yes the SW is the best looking estate car out there in my opinion! 👍🏻
I have the 159 Sportwagon, same year, same colour.
First Alfa I have owned and didn’t know what to expect, but, I’m happy to say that I adore this car !.
It is, by far, the best looking estate car you can buy, in my opinion.
It has been faultlessly reliable and is plenty quick enough, (I have the 150bhp version).
It has its quirks, like any car, like the auto wipers, as mentioned, but it’s a car that always makes me smile when I drive it.
The thing that amazes me is that, whenever I park it up, I ALWAYS find myself looking back at it as I walk away smiling !!. Never had that with any other car that I’ve owned !.
Such a beautiful looking car, I love it !.
Hi Kevin, thanks very much for watching and also for commenting! Yes I agree - the Sportwagon is certainly the best looking estate car built in living memory.
I recently bought a 2008 159 sport sport wagon. The 2.4 JTDm TI, and what a vehicle, the most comfy drive I have ever owned. It’s also been mapped and goes extremely well! Great channel btw !
Hi Vini - thanks for watching, glad you like the channel! I never got to drive the 2.4 but it seemed like the best all-rounder for the 159, especially if mapped and more poky! Enjoy 👍🏻😉
I own the limited edition. And I absolutely love it. I still look back at it every time I get out of it.
Had the gear box refurbished in the last few months only cost £260. The engine is absolutely sound. I love it.
Hi and thanks for watching! Yes its still the best looking saloon car on the road I think (apart from the Giulia Quadrifoglio perhaps! 😉)
@@TheAlfaNut lol that's the next one to get... in about 10 years lol
Ciao chris...i just subscribed to your channel. I live in Italy and it's a pleasure to watch your videos.i really enjoy watching...welldone👏😎the 159 was a giugaro design a really awesome car..👌😎
Ciao Edo! Thanks for subscribing and glad you enjoyed the video. I like the 159 design a lot but I still prefer the 156 by Fumia (I have a 156 2.5 V6 ;0)
Thanks for yet another informative and entertaining video Chris.
As it goes I was thinking of selling my 156 sw ti and getting a 159 sw ti after watching this I think I might hold on to the 156 for a few more years! By the way as that a GTV ph3 2.0 JTS i spotted lurking in your new man cave?
Hi Steve, yes it is - it belongs to Gary who is using it as a test bed currently for www.totallyalfa.com parts!
@@TheAlfaNut That's good to hear, two of my Boys have JTS engined Gtv's and as you know parts are scarce!
Hi Chris - great videos.. I've had the 159 2.4jtdm sportwagon and now have the 2.4 saloon.. I love them, they're reliable, handle well and the design holds well against some newer models. For me, it's the best value Alfa one can buy. Not keen on the 1.9 diesel but need to buy another 159 as my partner wants my car..so looking to get the Spider 2.4diesel and tweek it for extra power and fun driving. Would love the 1750 petrol too.. looking forward to the next video.😃
Hi Carlo - thanks for watching! If I was buying a 159 it would be either a 2.4 Sportwagon (tuned!) or the 1750 tbi. I will be driving and reviewing a 1750 tbi very soon for another video, so watch out for that!
Great video! Ive had my 159 since the 7th of December, she's a 2010, Red 2.0 jtdm Sportwagon, in Ti spec, lots of spec too including factory Xenons and a (rather noisy) sunroof.. I've recently had it remapped to 210hp, and 477nm of torque and EGR valve deleted, so goes very well now! It's on 90,000 miles now, everytime I drive it, I can't believe how well built it feels, and rattle free. Such a lovely place to sit, with the brushed aluminium dash. I did go searching originally for the 1.75 tbi, but in the spec I wanted, and colour, they seem very rare. The 2.0D is great for a daily driver. It also seems to get quite a bit of attention, which I didn't expect.
Hi James, yes they are pretty well built overall - hope you enjoy yours for many miles to come!
@@TheAlfaNut Very impressed so far! Thank you :) Looking foward to many more miles in it.
I own a 159 sportwagon, 2.0 jtdm. Currently 200km 460Nm. The best car I have ever owned. Driving this car is pure pleasure. I drove a company Giulia Quadrifoglio for a while, it's my dream car.
My 159 is red too but it is the 3.2 V6 AWD model....and it flies!!
Hi Gil, thanks for watching - good choice, the AWD 3.2. is the best drivetrain for Winter driving - it would be useful here in the UK at the moment! ;0)
Any issues with the timing chain stretching?
Good job my man 😀 a true Alfa nut. I have had the 159 3.2 Q4 and the 2.4 JTD. I loved them both but they killed me on repairs. The 3.2 was great fun though. Best Alfa I ever owned was the 166 3.2 V6.... but that was also challenging as getting the parts for it are very difficult.
Hey Sam, thanks for watching! Yep the cost of repairs is an issue with the 159 for sure. They are cheap to buy now though! The 3.2 Busso is quite an engine 👍🏻
Had a 1.9 JTDM TI for 2 years. Always hit 50mpg no matter how you drove it. Was a fairly good car to drive, Blue & me was a bit intermittent. Started having DPF issues around 130k Miles and the swirl flap went at 144k miles which meant engine replacement. Other things to watch out for with the 19 inch wheels was track rod ends and wheel alignment. Needed fixing every 6 months or the front tyres would wear unevenly. Looked amazing but beware of these issues.
Hi Mike, thanks a lot for watching and the pointers. I think its funny that generally non-Alfa people think that Alfas are unreliable but the GM component- heavy 159 had more problems than many previous Alfas put together! The “purest” version of the 159 will be featured next - the 1750 tbi 👍🏻
I am now (finally!!) the proud owner of a 159 sportwagon 😎 it has rust, warning lights, weird knocks, failed parking sensors, failed glow plugs and other strange quirks but I honestly can't stop looking at it inside and out it is simply one of the best looking cars ever made 😁 now starts the long road of making everything work again 😁 cheers alfanut!! 🇮🇹
On my 7th Alfa which happens to be a 2010 159 Ti 2.4. Great car, 140,000 km, no problems apart from a set of glow plugs and a new sensor ($8 from Ebay lol). A vastly underrated car. Yes it's an Alfa and needs to be looked after but it's huge performance sedan. Love your work.
Thanks a lot for watching Matt - I haven’t driven the 2.4 yet but I suspect its the best daily driver engine. Will be getting in a tuned 1750 tbi ti soon, so looking forward to making that video! 😉
I have a 159 Sportwagon 1.9 JTDM 210HP (new engine version upgrade) from 2007. And I'm still in love with that design. Cheers, from Portugal 🇵🇹💪😎🍀🐍
Hi Midian, thanks for watching and I hope that Portugal is getting back to normal now?
If the engine is 210hp its 2.4 not 1.9
Lovely looking cars especially the ti estate version,the 1750 tbi is the best engine in my opinion ,found the 1.9 diesel to be reliable and torquey if a little unrefined.I hated the clutch on the 2.2 petrol.Great video as usual.
Hi Rob, thanks for watching! Yes the 2.2 has a strange hesitancy when pulling away in 1st too - I noticed it when I drove the Brera.
Hi Chris,
I am 20 and i just bought the 159 3.2 Q4. I am so happy! :) beauty of a car.
Hi Mert, thanks for watching! I hope you enjoy driving your 159 - I didn’t get to drive the 3.2 but its a great package. 👍🏻
The Alfa Nut thanks alot you are an amazing reviewer
Thanks Mert, glad you like the channel! 👍🏻
I had my 2.2 TI black on tan 159 for 5 years, it’s the best driving FWD car I’ve had the pleasure to drive in anger. The interior is one of the best in any car ever, and those looks are to die for, IMO it needs to be a TI and need twin exhausts (2.2, 2.4, 3.2). I loved the shift feel, very short and positive, love the notchyness. I miss the feeling in other cars.
I assure you, a TI with the seats at their lowest and tilted back has a very sporty driving position for a saloon. Getting into a Giulietta afterwards felt like getting into an SUV.
Hi Chris, thanks for watching - I’m driving a 1750 tbi ti soon, so I’m looking forward to driving a quick 159 next time! 😉
Really enjoyed the video!
I have a 159 TBi which I've had for 2 and a half years, traded in my trusty 147 1.6 for it and wow what a motor it is, I dont think I got the best one as I've spent so much on it already but even in it's current standard form at 200hp it really does go like the clappers compared to what I'm used to! Look forward to seeing more videos! Everyone that's had a go on my 159 has been converted to the Alfa Romeo way hehe
Hi mate, thanks for watching! Glad to hear you are enjoying your tbi - I’m making a vid about that car very soon so keep an eye out! ☹️
Same thing here. Have 2 159's, a 1.9 jtdm and a tbi ti. Great engines, amazing ride, god damn expensive to mantain as a whole. Except the engine, they had the same identical failures, from electric cables, ecu, suspension, to the damn noise made by the rear doors hinges and breakage of the plastic sprocket of the electric motor motor. They know how to make cars that put a smile on your face...till you have to visit the service station. 320k km on the 1.9jtdm and 165 on the tbi
Great video! I am replacing the head gasket and other bits and bobs of restoration in my Porsche 944 s2 my daily driver of 9 years. This video inspired me to buy a 159 ti 1.9 low miles red with Tan interior when I viewed it recently I could not take my eyes off it so beautiful!
Hi Mark, thanks for watching! A 944 would make a great daily car I reckon, big 4-pot engine and comfy interior. It may have a competitor now though - the 159 is also a great daily and will give much better fuel economy! 😉
Thinking about buying a 159 SW as my first car and you just convinced me :)
Thanks for watching mate - good luck with the 159! 👍🏻
It's always nice to find more informations, opinions, reviews, and random stuff about Alfas, and particularly about the one I own, the 159.
I have a 159 SW 1.9jtdm 150bhp. I found the SW more beautiful than the standard car, and more beautiful than any other SW. I do have the same set of interior color, for me, the most beautiful.
I do find the 150bhp enough but it does lack a bit of a punch. Summer tires get me a 8L/100km urban and 6L/100 combined, Highway get's me 6L at 100-110km/h, 6.5L at 120-125km/h. Winter tires substracts 0.5L/100km.
The gearbox it's precise but slow, together with the lack of punch when you accelerate from stop it does make a slow start.
My seats are similar and I love the quality of the leather. The car has 123k km on the clock and although the front seats, specially mine are a bit wear out in the sides, I think they are in great shape.
Driving position took me 1 year (I have back problems) to find, but once I got it right, it's amazing. To bad there's no memory. I do trips of 2000km with minor discomfort by the end.
The automatic wipers.... yes, piece of crap. The parking sensors.. the best I used (I have the 4/4 package)
I have Xenon headlight, this car used 1Ds models, very expensive.
Exhaust is silent, and hardly any smoke.
I have BOSE system sound. Not superb, but good. If you drive close to the front the sound might be a bit frontal, but if you get yourself a bit back it get''s really good.
Blue and Me system is crap. The Usb drive does not read all the files(I mean it does read mp3, but if you put 200 files in a USB PEN, it will only read about 70 or 100 and keep on looping the same songs).
I can't park straight because of the car curvature. :) Love it shape though.
Chassi is very solid, the car does not need such big tires also, it would withstand 200bhp no problem.
Trunk door is narrow but there's plenty of space for almost everything.
I have headlights waterjets I had to disable them, they consume 7L of water in one week. (One waterjet for each headlight, 6 headlights...)
Construction is solid despite myths, center console does not move, plastic in the doors upper part are kinda rubber instead of rigid plastics.
Curiosity: Since I started driving I never got a crack on my windshield, however I already changed my Alfa windshield twice... aerodynamics problem maybe?
Yes, I'm dying inside because there's no Giulia SW. :'(
I’ve just bought a 2009 159 today 1.9 ti and I love it 👌🏼
Hi Michael - good choice, hope you enjoy it mate!
From my experience Chris when I owned a 06 plate 2.4JTDm Lusso Saloon is 1. Yes the auto wipers were annoying 2. The folding door mirrors had character ( Mind of their own especially the drivers side on mine especially when unfolded )
3. Auto headlights kept to Drivers choice when turned on / off ( Sensor too sensitive)
However I found it having a nice ride especially on the bumpy stuff ..
Very quick because of torque .
Great driving it in snow.
Amusing as one dark morning I was driving it to work and I was pulled in by the police ..
The police following me had panicked when the dpf’s started to regenerate and the tail pipes glowed red.
And assurance words showing them the size of the handbook and saying in here but I cannot remember what page Alfa Romeo say it can happen make them change their mind and leave me alone lol
Oh I miss my 159 😢
Hi Chris, thanks for watching! I'd like to drive the 2.4 as a lot of people are saying it's the best motor. What are you driving now?
The Alfa Nut It is the oh embarrassment of a Seat Leon MK1 😖
I do also have a 156 2.0 JTS Veloce but is on decision as the rear suspension has collapsed and a ton of other work is needed including all belts & tensioners etc etc .
The 2.4 JTDm is a great sounding unit and a bit better in the slightly later models as the weight was reduced & it was increased in horsepower to 210 before it was totally taken out of the model range due to euro emissions.
I am awaiting a decent amount of cash to come through from a investment to get a newer Alfa.
I am in a conundrum go with a older Alfa with the 2.4 JTDm engine such as a 159, Brera , Spider or go with a current Giulia which will be getting cheaper with the 2020 facelifted version soon new on sale ...
I’m buying a 159 next Thursday, great video!
Thanks for watching Patricio! I hope you love your 159! 👍🏻🇮🇹
Love the look of these cars. I have a 2010 159 in Stromboli Grey. Beautiful!
I love that colour too! Thanks for watching Lee.
Just subscribed to your channel and enjoyed this piece very much. I have just sold a 159, only a wimpy 1.8mpi but I loved it. Such a beautiful car and in Rosso red. It was a Lusso with an interior the same as the one in the video. It got many an admiring glance and I will miss its practicality as I now have a 2.2jts Brera/Spider which was love at first sight. I would be interested to see what you think of them.
Cheers Steven, I drove a 2.2 Brera in my Xmas video and really liked it. Haven’t driven the Spider version yet but hope to do that sooner or later.
Huge yes from me love driving my 159
what engine ? i have one 1.9 jtdm
Still in my opinion the most beautiful sedan ever designed. The Giulia is for sure top-notch engineeringwise, but the 159 still is a presence to behold on the road, and despite all of the bad rap it was a great family car, unfortunately hampered by a very undertone marketing strategy.
Hi mate, thanks for watching. Yes I think the 159 was a good all round car with the right engine choice and now a great bargain for sure!
I have the 159 2.2JTS 185 SW (Station) A great familly car, rock solid on the road and above 3000rpm the engine really comes to life. The seats can lower down and tilt so I get the sporty feeling. I think the desing /looks of the SW is much nicer than the sedan. It is strong enough to pull a big caravan and it drives very nice with long distances on the motorway. The gearbox 6 speed is very tight if you dont clutch on te good rpm it's getting bumpy. Also if you hit the gas with the faster gasoline version often check the oil regulary, they love to drink oil. (only Selinia)
Yes I agree - the SW is certainly the best looking estate car on the road!
Just found this blog. I still have my 2010 159Ti 2.4 and it is a dream. Service it annually regardless of mileage and she’s never let me down. Timing belt changes always need doing ontime.
Hi Paul, thanks for watching. The 2.4 is probably the best engine, along with the 1750! 😎👍🏻
The 159 is the most seductive sedan of all time..........I drove a 2,4 JTD for almost 2 years as a company car here in South Africa and never experienced any problem or hick up of any kind (fabulous fuel economy).........delightful and exciting to drive at every moment..........I really miss it
Hi frined, for Odometer flashing also removing the batery and replece it with a hig amperaj wil make te Odometer flash? I have that isue on a 159 that i whant to buy
Great video. Fairly new to Alfa ownership myself. Bought a new Giulietta Veloce about 3 weeks ago. For the price nothing else can touch it. Years ago I use to own a Fiat 130TC Abarth. The superb induction noise of the Alfa reminds me of my old Fiat.
Thanks for watching Jamie, glad you enjoyed it and yes the Giulietta Veloce is a hoot - well done for buying a new one & supporting Alfa.
I’m planning to drive one soon for an episode. What do you like best about it?
@@TheAlfaNut So far I've only put about 1200kms on the clock and I'm still running her in. Picking one thing I like best about the Giulietta is tough and she looks, sounds, and performs superbly. However it's the handling that I like the best. I haven't been anywhere near her limits and probably never will. The steering is light but direct and the ride is pretty good for a hot hatch.
My last car was an AWD Volvo V50, with a similar power output to the Alfa. Other than more interior space I can't think of anything that the Volvo did better.
My only grip so far is the Dual Clutch transmission. It seems to hold on to first gear too long and at other times changes up too soon.
Will look forward to seeing your review on the Giulietta.
Some KBK or similar with an Abus GMC 200 would make a great addition to your new Alfa HQ if you find somethings are too heavy. (Just a suggestion) looking forward to many more videos, great channel.
Thanks for watching Matthew - the HQ is coming along nicely now!
Mine: A 2007 159 2.4 Lusso, red (of course!) tweaked for better throttle response and about 235 bhp / 350 ft lbps of torque. Recently went to Scotland (Loch Tay area) from Kent and the car was superb averaging 45mpg, cruise control helped as well. Thing is though, it does make me feel good and most other 159 / Brera / Spider owners must feel the same because we'll acknowledge each other when we see another one (and let's face it you don't see many about unfortunately). Had it 3 1/2 years now and I still can't park it and walk away without looking back at it! Is that sad or normal?
(Main draw back, you're right about the gearbox being "notchy", even more so when it's cold!)
Hi Steve, sounds good - the 2.4 is the motor to have I reckon. Its not sad to look back at your car, its just a sign that you have the right car! 😉
Very normal to look back at your 159!!
I'm driving a 156 at the moment and in a few days (I hope) my new 159 2.4 Q4 :)
I'm looking forward to the hack Video!
Thanks for watching - my 156 is getting some love at the moment, ready to get back on the road after a 2 year restoration! Hope you love your 2.4!
How is the 156 for reliability in your experience?
@@malcolmhardwick4258 For a car which cost me 2k, it was great. I drove it 1.5 years and around 30k-40k km. Now I can't get TÜV because of rust and some electrical problems
The 2.4 Q4 is really nice to drive. But you better remove the swirl flaps. They can break and cause severe damage to the engine.
My 156 has been very reliable apart from a few small electrical problems. Busso engines are super reliable if maintained properly 👍🏻
Hi, i have 159 1.9 181hp, and that car flies, even if its that heavy its very fast, im driving it for a year and half now, and everytime i park it, i look back at her same as the girls do when i drive it. She is so beautiful.
This year i decided to give her some smile on it and im currently waiting her to be finished. Tinted glasses, new rims and sport exhaust, so i cant wait to get back to her this wednesday, and to hear new sound! Its a great car and i can't be more happy to have her.
Hi mate, thanks for watching! Yes I think the car I drove had a problem as it didnt feel very quick. Glad you are loving yours! 👍🏻
I have a 2006 2.4 Turbo diesel, Manual with Ti Rims and Skirts. By far the best car i have owned. :) (also have 2x 2.0 Alfetta's and a '75' in the garage)
The whole car has been quality repainted in a metallic maroon and the Ti rims in a metallic grey. Has the same tan interior as the one your in. Its at 156,000 kms and it hasn't missed a beat since i've owned it.
Here in Australia the roads are quite shite most places so cant play around too much, i've broken 2 Ti rims on the shittily built country roads where i live. Which weren't easy to find or cheap to replace!
But the fuel consumption is amazing! I average about 4.5L /100km @ 100kmph. On a motorway nearer the city i was cruising at 145kmph at 4.8L/100k's on cruise control. This car was built to be powerful yet efficient, and can tell that it was developed for Europe's Superstrada's and Autobahns.
Sadly modern cars are less efficient and weigh even more. Mine is about 1635kg, about 215hp, and around 250kmph top speed and can go up to 1100kms cruising just over the 100kmph speed limits.
((Mine must have been modified under the hood also, bc the book top speed is 228 and i've had it to 245 relatively easy. ))
It is more efficient than all newer modern common cars of similar size. The only others i've found to be similarly efficient are new diesel Mercedes and a couple other high end brands which 'claim' around 6.5L/100k's.
I bought it 2 yrs ago for AUD $6400 with all the Ti kit already on it, which is pennies compared to the quality, luxury and performance this car has. The biggest cost has been insurance and rego as usual, grrrr.
Hi Langdon & thanks for watching! Your car sounds good - nice colour combo there. I think you're right about the 159 being built for comfort and motorway use, it's certainly not a back road scratcher! Hope you haven't had too hard a time with the fires mate?
I think that the automatic windscreen wipers are actually quite good with this car. The interval/response time is quite quick compared to some 2020/21 cars.
Hi Kalvar - maybe you are right - the automatic wipers in my Giulia are very slow as well though, maybe it's because it rains less in Italy!
Hello I am italian and my 159 sportwagon jtd 2.4 is now painted in green, white and red
Alfa Romeo: the colours of italian flag. Is a 2009 car, sport edition, original beige leather seats. At 368.000 km engine exploded so I found an used 2.4 motor with 130.000 km and I changed. After 2000 km broken the automatic gear: I renew it. Before this breaking no one big problem! Now the car has 385.000 km and it is still amazing to drive! Last week Svitzerland and Austria for work! I forget: I have other three fantastic cars: an amazing Maserati Granturismo Sport 4.7, F1 gear, 2016 with 33.000 km: dark grey paint and dark red interiors; a stunning Ferrari 360 Modena, F1, grey alloi (azul), red interiors, 30.000 km, 2004 and a killer Radical SR8 RX for pista. Believe me: I enjoy my Alpha 159 like the other three. Each great car has its own character and Alpha 159, as daily car thet you can drive like a sport car, is amazing too! About this car I love the general balance, the handling, the perfect seat, the good comfort, the amazing stirrer. I will send photos to Alpha Nuts. By and enjoy your good old cars: new cars are shit cars!!!
Ciao Remo and thanks for your message! I love Maseratis too - I have owned a 2002 4200 Spider and a 2005 4200 coupe - both cambiocorsa cars. I also need a Ferrari one day 😉
I think the 2.4 is probably the best engine for the 159, although the 1750 tbi is a great engine too. Your 159 sounds like it will be very easy to see on the autostrada! 😁
@@TheAlfaNut yes: policeman always smile! Only in switzerland custom I was stopped for long controls... Too much italian!
Ps: 360 is a stunning car: light, nervous, rough, intuitive, amazing. F1 gear is not so bad like all tell: in sport is ferocious and rough, like a real racecar! The metallic sound of 5 valves per cilynder is amazing still with stock exaust: next step race exaust and electronic unit. Grey alloy color is stunning: it shows the real beauty of the car, maybe one of the best Ferrari of all time and now incredibly cheap. Only to found the right one. I buy it two weeks ago in Belgium and have driven it for 1200 km (16 hours) to return home. It has too a sufficent comfort (it don't break my ass). Next week I will do the italian registration. Only to see both Maserati and Ferrari toghether make proud to be italian! Idiots europen and italian politics wants to destroy the italian heritage that is, for the second half last century, history of incredible cars design and manufactured! You made Brexit! You right! By
Hi Remo, you are a lucky man to have such a garage! My friend owned a 360 Modena Spider about 10 years ago and I have been the fastest ever in that car - 260kph with the roof down 😱
A much better car than the 430 I think?
Yes Brexit has finally happened and I hope that our European friends will see that we still love Europe, we just don’t like the EU parliament & people like Guy Verhofstadt ! 🤬
I also hope we will still be allowed into Europe - I am supposed to be visiting the Alfa museum in June to make a video! 😱😳
@@TheAlfaNut Hello my friend: yes, EU is a nest of rats of worst species! Europe is that of Peoples and Nations which have nothing to do with EU and Euro. What are happening in UK about laws to put in jale people who speaks about killer vaxines? Governments want mandatory vaxines for all: see this bunch of bullshit about "coronavirus"... Only in Italy every year 49.000 people die in italian hospitals for infection contracted in hospitals! Eies wide open! You and your patriots are always welcome in Italy and in Europe, of course! You are THE MODEL! About Ferrari 430 I never driven one! I think 360 is more iconic, more beautiful, more light, with a more interesting 8 cilynder (5 valves per cilynder): power is more in 430 but it is not all. I love 360 Modena! In grey alloi and red leather is a piece of art! Sound is sexy! When you come in Italy if you want we can meet: I live in Veneto near Treviso. Soon I will send you photos! By
Remo Crosato i dislike the political part of EU too but please, then leave the EU because hasnt done anything else than usurp money from other EU nations with their financial instability.
Nice video once again mate. I swear the production value goes up with each one. Maybe touch on the long side during the drive but good none the less.
I have heard not so great things about the gearboxes in, I think, at least both diesel versions. Apparently main bearings surrender and it's quite costly to get fixed. For me 159 doesn't even get close to 156 in desirability, but I know I'm biased. Better than most of the competitors anyway. Just too heavy...
Ps. If you think the weather is bad over there I welcome you to southern finland. This winter has been horrible: too warm for snow to stick around, endless rain, and very short days. You would love it ;)
Hi Wiley, thanks for the compliment and yes I agree it was a bit boring in the middle but I had too many things to say and it took me a whole week to edit the video as it was! 😩. I also used pictures of a Chiron instead of a Veyron by accident which is embarrassing....
I have to say that the 159 seems like a great daily driver and very practical but for driving pleasure, I’d look elsewhere. (Like my 156 too! 😉)
I’m sure that Southern Finland is very beautiful in the Spring though?
I daily drive a 156 which I love it’s my third Alfa and I love it I have had 2 years no trouble I suppose when it has gone maybe a159 or a t spark spider for fun which driving should always be .i am not a millionaire but I love my alfas real cars Si Si si grazie Mille ciao
Hi James, thanks for watching - I have a 1998 156 and I love it, such a fun and pretty car!
I have the TBI1.75 in black I’ve had it chipped up to 254 bhp ,and from what I can see these are one of the very few Alfa’s not crashing in value.
Hi. Great video and really well made. Out of interest, as it turned out it was actually 2.0 Jtdm - do you still think it was sluggish for that size/power? And what was the issue with re-map? I have 2.0 Jtdm and I am thinking about doing one. Ta
Hi Lukasz, thanks for watching! Yes it seemed quite slow but there seems to be a problem with the ecu which might explain why the remap simply would not work? I’m sure yours will be fine and it is well worth doing. 👍🏻
No way! Hello there Chris!! Just came across this channel totally by chance. I'll be checking out your content with gusto. Any SZ material? All the best, Cormac.
Hey Cormac! Nice to hear from you mate - thanks for checking in. I didn't know you lika da Alfa? Haven't driven an SZ yet, as I am trying to find someone willing to let me get behind the wheel but hopefully sometime soon. Sorry about the cheesy jokes - can't help myself ;0)
@@TheAlfaNut I used to see one up in Clifton a fair bit. Maybe I'll stick a note under his wiper if I see it again!
Yeah why not - I’ve got used to being cheeky and asking people if I can drive their cars! Hopefully all good with you?
The 159 got a more “germanic” built quality. But more heavy too, along with a very notchy gear selector, as you pointed out. That’s why 4 cylinders cars are a little bit ordinary to drive. I bought a 3.2 v6 Q4 recently, and it’s a different animal. Please feel free to drive it on your next visit to Costa Rica. Cheers.
Hi Luis - thanks for watching and for your kind offer! I'd like to drive the 3.2 v6!
Please try a 2.4Ti 210 bhp sportwagon like mine. One that has a proper remap, dpf removed, EGR blocked, swirl flaps removed and intake cleaned. You then get around 245 bhp and 500 Nm of torque, like mine. It literally changes the car. You can set the sensitivity of the wipers on the stalk, it works quite well actually.
Hi Reinier - yes I will try a 2.4, I like big powerful diesel engines :0)
Hi Chris, Nice Video! What do you think about the 2.2JTS. Ihave the TI Version and i love it, but i also have some low rev hesitation. Do you have any knowledge of this problem maybe? Greetings from Austria
Gruss Gott Gethard! Thanks for watching. My Wife’s family are from Vienna and Kub in the mountains! The low speed hesitancy can be removed by remapping the ecu. This also will improve power slightly! 😉 Cheers
@@TheAlfaNut Thanks a lot for your response. I was thinking about remapping a lot and now i am sure that i will try this! Thanks and Seavas :-)
2.4 Ti Sportwagon is probably my favourite. Black or dark grey, red or tan leather trim.
Yes we all say we want the V6, but I have one in my Spider and it’s not practical as a daily driver.
Seriously think it might be a bargain all rounder for the family sports estate.
Hi Mark, thanks for watching. Yeah the 2.4 is the motor for everyday I suspect, although it's a heavy old lump! I also have a V6 Spider but they do like a drink! ;0)
The ti only has black leather with red stitching. I have the 2.4 Sportwagon in ti trim. The lowered suspension and 19” wheels give it a much more imposing stance than the standard variants.
the problem with the v6 is that it isn’t a busso, so no real reason to get it
N.B., Not an Alfa owner (anymore, sadly) -- I had a few roadsters before getting my first Alfa: An MG Midget, an MGB and a Triumph TR6. All were fine, and fun to shift. When I took out my first Alfa (a 1750 GTV), and experienced that transmission, I fell in love- A Five speed, long throw, and so smooth. It seemed to coax me to use my whole arm to toss it into gear. Like it preferred I shift with elan, even when I was all alone. It was glorious and felt as though I was conducting a symphony. It was an unforgettable experience that held through my next Alfa, a Spider 2000. Same deal. When I got my Alfetta, I was a bit let down, with it having a trans-axle in the rear. Still, the memory of my previous Alfas have ever defined for me, just how glorious an car could be.
The 159 looks great. I'm not sure if we got that over the pond.
No you didn’t sadly, along with a few other good Alfas like the (916) GTV and the 156. If you want to revisit that Alfa love affair, try a new Giulia Veloce or Quadrifoglio. They really connect in a way that other cars don’t.
I have a 2.4 auto, I think equivalent to your Ti versions almost with almost fully loaded options - though no Satnav mind you. Remapped to avoid turbo lag that meant your average Corolla could get one off you off at the lights. Drives brilliantly. Still suffers from the occasional acceleration flutter when increasing speed after staying on highway constant cruise speed for some time.
Hi Vince, thanks for watching! I’m only sorry that I didnt get to drive a 2.4 - to me it seems like the best all round engine for the car.
Hi enjoyed the video. We own a 3.2 q4 q-tronic ti had her 5 years and yes shes had her problems. But all is forgiven when you look at her ❤️
Hi Chris, thanks for watching and glad you enjoy your 3.2 ti - with a 4WD you are probably feeling smug when the weather is bad too?! 😉
very happy for you
Thanks Kerem!
hi chris.my last alfa was a 159 1750tbi black with black leather fantastic drive,i now have a giulia veloce,thanks for the vid.howard
Hi Howard - thanks a lot for watching! Enjoy the Giulia - its a great motor 👍🏻
Heyy...new 2007 Alfa 159 owner here. Same car as in the video (model engine, color). Bought it 3 weeks ago, October 2020 and still compilating impressions. Got the excellent price of 6000€ for a mint condition 80k kms car! ..pretty amazing. - Thanks for the video Chris, it's great. I like your accurate English accent too :)....I agree with everything said, I would perhaps comment that the standard 150cv engine, without being agressive, it's definately not slow, it's got quite a good response. Not super powerful but enough for some quick 3rd/4rth gear accelerations here and there (0-100 km/h in less than 10 seconds is fine by general standards). - Roomwise, I dont have children to take onboard but music gear instead that needs a fair amount of room/boot, and the 159 ticks the box!...Sadly, the car's front interior has an irritating lack of space to put stuff (papers, wallet, coins, CD's, etc), and I mean little, far less than usual compared with other cars.....Finally, many thanks to the Brera first 2002 concept design for letting the 159 copy that wonderful front :)
Hi Enric. Thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed it! I am a musician too and played in bands for my whole life (guitar / singer) so I know how that works! Cars with a rear hatch that can carry gear are essential 😉. What do you play? You can hear my last solo album on Spotify / Itunes, just search for “C3D: Being Me”
Enjoy your 159 mate 👍🏻
open.spotify.com/album/3cLStEux7wXjPWOPF1r54R?si=hP6gKqOcTEWEPCbdFVPcIQ
@@TheAlfaNut Hey Chris! sorry for the late reply. First of all, I thought my engine was the same as the one in the video, but then I realized it's not. 135 bhp? dont know what model that is (as far as I know there was the 120 and then the 150. But anyway I understand 135 bhp must be a little slow as you said. -- The 150 one is quite Ok. So far so good in my 1rst year of owning a 159 1.9 JTD. There is only one thing that I need to check...every now and then the car is suffering from power being cut off when accelerating. It cuts and then it goes again, and repeatedly. I need to get it checked up. -- BTW!!! I listened to your songs, they sound neat! soul, jazzy fusion,...and fun tracks like Mr. Akufo! haha....smart chords and progressions everywhere, congrats!!!! Great work...I dont have Spotify, but I listened to them in the Shazam website. -- My style is heavy-rock. I love Thin Lizzy!! Been playing a solo acoustic hits set for 10 years now..., then playing bass in a Queen tribute band (Scaramouche) and preparing the lead vocals for a new Hard Rock/Heavy Metal classics setlist. All this in my city which is very close to Barcelona, Spain. Cheers mate!
Recently I drove a 159 JTD and I was disappointed by the interior. Then, a few months later, I drive a Spyder of same era, and I loved it, which is strange because the interior was virtually identical. I think I need to try another 159. However, I will say that after years of driving Volvos, the known issues with these 159/Breras have will take some getting used to, but they do look very nice...
6 out of 5 gorgeous. The best looking 4 door car to ever come to production at any point of the time.
Hi Tahsin - thanks for watching!
Entertaining as ever Chris. The 2.4 JTD is the engine to have, although the 1.9 in my 147 was a hoot.
Thanks Alex - yes I'd like to drive a 2.4, I quite like big diesels - loads of grunt! The next drive is a tuned 1750 tbi. Keep watching!
My 2.4 should be ready in a couple months. I'm never Chris so you can have a go if you're ever up here
3.2 JTS is fun one too. When buying winter car I went back and forth between 2.4 JTD Q4 and 3.2 JTS Q4 many times, but ended up buying 3.2 JTS as here in Finland it had nearly 25% lower tax than the diesel with the addition that I could buy petrol car at ~2/3 of the price of a diesel. Even when considering that JTS might need the timing chain change it made more sense to buy the 3.2 over the 2.4 for the four months I needed winter car for ;)
Hi Samir, thanks for the offer!
Hi Antonio - yes, so does the 1.9 GT (like mine 😉😆)
Interesting Video, but what are your detailed thoughts on the 2007 2.2 Brera Petrol Manual FWD Version ?
Specifically: Underbody Chassis/Subframe/Suspension Corrosion/Rusting Problems
Step Up OR Step Down ?
More like a step sideways I would say? The Brera wheelbase is 170mm shorter, so handling tends be a little more nimble but the same problems beset both cars: notchy gearbox, rusty subframes, excess weight and blunted performance as a result. I have only driven the 2.0 jts Brera Prodrive edition, which handled well due to stiffer and lower suspension and looked great but the ride was harsh on the 19” wheels and it still felt heavy. To be fair though I could live with it because its so gorgeous and even better looking than the 159! I would probably buy the V6 4WD and use it for Winter fun! Decision decisions 😄
@@TheAlfaNut Thanks for your very clear and comprehensive response - particularly your comment on the 'rusty subframes' - l have a 2007 2.2 Brera Petrol FWD on offer - immaculate paintwork and the shutlines are all in order - owner guarantees there have been no 'shunts', 'scrapes' and/or 'carpark dings'. However, its not the topside that l am so much concerned about, but the 'Italian disease' underneath - RUST !!! Are the rusty subframes a real issue or a 'minor concern' on these cars ?
Thanks again in advance for your thoughts.
Proud owner of a 159 berlina 1.9 jts. The looks are breathtaking and the ride is very comfortable while its alsof quite capable for some sporty driving. Many people dont like the petrol engines ( except for the tbi) but i really like it. I really dont know where all that hate for the 1.9jts is coming from. Also i live in the Netherlands so a diesel is quite expensive to own.
Hi Ryan, thanks for watching - the 159 is an overlooked Alfa thats for sure. 🙂
Hi, i want to buy an 2008 sedan grey alfa 159 1.9jts 160, it has 80.000km (It shows on speedometer atleast), manual gearbox 6 speed, orange leather interior, 17inch wheels, and that all, no xenon or parking sensors/navi.car has expired mot/tuv since 2013 and hasn't been driven since, it comes from Italy.
It had engine distributions chains belt, tensioner and water pump along with the whole kit replaced new, but still has some issues with the oil pump( new oil pump required). Price bargained is 2000euro...
What do you think about it? I don't fancy diesel at all and I had the jtdm engine and I think petrol suits an alfa best. Also I look only after 1.9 jts natural aspirated engine. What do you think? Worth buying?
Hi Chris,
Fantastic I've found your channel!👍💯 Brilliant uploads 👍 & your knowledge is outstanding mate!
You're sense of humour 😆👌
& What a facility you've have!
To store, all You're Collection 🤤
I've a 1.9jtdm, the limited edition one, they did for the launch of the Bond film Quantum, ( look them up, but you've probably already know mate ) She's been really looked after by previous owner,
( Garaged 🙏 😇) & £££ spent on Her, mind you, first thing I did,was take off that ,water collecting sponge of an engine cover underneath! ☹️
Only 250 models were ever made,
I didn't realise until I ran the Reg up on an Reg-App & it stated, "limited edition" & then I joined Alfa forums ect to dig deeper on this mysterious model.....
Anyway, I realise the M32 box in her, ain't that hot 😕 she's only 150bhp , as you know,.
A enthusiast commented here about " Remap & Q2 " ??
How can I squeeze some more power out of her please Chris ?
I get conflicting information regarding tuning her, but don't want to mess her up 😫
As you know it can be a lottery on the dash lights......
I would really appreciate if you could give me some advice please mate,
She's my absolute Baby 😍!
And Her Dashingly, Beautiful looks, she's the most Beautiful Car, I've ever been luckily enough to find !
I'm A Totally Italian Nut BTW, To mate! 😍.
Here's what I've been fortunate to & Proudly enough to Own .
I've had : Fiat Unos the Fire engine was 👌 cracking, I thought.....
The One & only Turbo i.e.
( now that could go ! 🏎️ 💨) Beat a Porsche actually at 🚦! Left him for dust..
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A , Fiat 128 sport , lovely, nippy,
but Oh sooooo rusty! 😲 ______________________________
Alfa 33 cloverleaf, ( mad torque steer!) But ohht that Beautiful wooden steering wheel 😍
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Alfa Arna, ( interesting is all I can say 😂) that boxer engine though nice...& My first Car.
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Fiat X19, so sweet handling!
Like a Go-kart , but a bugger to work on
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Fiat Strada Abarth,
Introduced to speed, with Her 🤯
Absolutely blown away with her...
Another 🇩🇪 Destroyer!
I was Petrified of her....
the Widow maker.....Plus The all night 🌃 into the early hours, carrying out a simple repair Maker!
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I Loved Evey one ,& Regret selling
Several of my beloved Girls 😥
Especially, the Strada & the
Turbo i.e.😢😥
Hi Drik - sorry for the late reply, I've been out of action but now I'm BACK! New video is available NOW.
I wish for Alfa romeo 147 from 2004. Damn, I dont care about what my friends says bad things about Alfa. I love Alfa Romeo, and when I grow up I am going to buy Alfa Romeo.
Yes do it! ;0)
@@TheAlfaNut I will
We did have it in México believe it or not. And we had the 3.2 V6 one. Cool videos mate. Greetings!!
Ola Mr Bond! Thanks for watching and for letting me know about Mexico getting the 159. Thats very interesting - the US didn’t get the 159 and many other Alfas and they will have to wait 25 years to import these models! What do you drive?
Wasn't that a picture of the Chiron,not a veyron?
Probably! 😆
yes :p
@@pyroclasm1 Oops.
@@TheAlfaNut and its nose is clearly inspired to the 159!
Haha yes! 👍🏻
I have one 159 2.0jtdm 170bhp with almost 250k km..still runs perfectly fine! I love the car and I plan to keep it for my boy for when he gets older and has a driving license :D :D
Hi Joao - they are very reliable for sure. Your Son will appreciate the cool “retro vibe” too! 😁
good to know they can get there :) my 2.0 is at 174k km
@@pyroclasm1 This series of engines seem very reliable!
@@pyroclasm1 I am expecting to get at least 300k and then save it for my boy! But you can definetely expect a very good car! Reliable and with enough power. Actually they are quite economical as well. I just did a trip of 400 km and averaged 4.8 l/100km!!! (58mpg)
I just love the damn car :D :D :D :D
Hey i am about to buy a 159 jtdm 120 ps 100.500km
but the owner told me it makes a noise in the 3 4 gear so what should i do.... :( got german new HU TÜV so i dont know
Hi Thony, unless the car is very cheap - look for a different 159! The 159 gearbox is not very good anyway but if this one has a fault, it will cause you bigger problems later. There are plenty of 159's to choose from, so be patient and find one with good service history and no problems! Good luck.
A workhorse - a great way to describe it! My 2.4 has done over 210k miles, what is still original: DMF, clutch, driveshafts, DPF etc. Components that fail more early on many manufacturers cars. Great improvement on body rust protection and electronics over previous Alfa models. Interiors look and feel better than other cars of same value. 159's have some weak points also- the front suspension components aren't very durable, handbrake is weak, the body gets corroded over time(boot, subframes) without attention, and the car is very heavy. Also the smaller GM gearbox is not very good as you said. 3.2 JTS and 2.4 diesel have much stronger gearboxes. Although the pretty design, I'd say a 159 is not a fragile italian, it is a very strong machine and easy to work on. It really has some german feel in it as mentioned on these comments (Bosch engine electronics and fuel injection systems etc) it even says VDO on the instrument panel.
I agree - it felt more like a BMW than an Alfa Romeo!
@@TheAlfaNut well, that was the market they were targeting after all ;)
As a 159 2.2 JTS Sportswagon owner I agree - it's 1.500Kgs of serious metal to get moving, so the upper range engines make life much easier going.
Haha, that’s true I guess. I just drove a remapped 1750 tbi and that was a really nice experience - 230bhp. 👍🏻
What year is your car?
@@whtalt92any issues and changes on the car ?
Hi don’t no if u can help me I got a 159ti 1.9 diesel and I have system code come up on dash and can’t shift it can’t find any info on this thanks justin
Hi Justin, best advice I can give is to go to www.alfaowner.com and join (its free) then ask the question in the 159 owners section. Someone there will be able to help for sure. Otherwise, get the car scanned for fault codes at a garage or try downloading the fiatecuscan software and do it yourself. Good luck 👍🏻
I've got a high mileage quantum of solace edition 1.9 jtdm. I can honestly say it's the best car I've ever ever had. Bit smokey when cold but other than that, it's perfect. Only cost me just over a grand as well.
Hi Robin, thats a bargain - enjoy! 👍🏻
How high?
@@blackcarmafia real high cos I'm just so fly.
144k
I've a 56 plate 2.4, must have replaced most things on it.😂 Good design doesn't get old, it's certainly a beautiful car.
Still looks great to me! 🙂
I like the 159 especially as a Sportwagon but currently I drive a Lancia Delta 1.4 844 or as you guys over in the UK say Chrysler Delta.
Ooh - I love a Lancia Delta! My first car was a Lancia Beta Coupe!
She's a beauty.
By the way, are you going to feature the Brera? There's no other car like it in the world...
Hi Jakub - thanks for watching! Yes I reviewed the 2.2 Prodrive Brera back in December - look for my Santa Claus outfit! 😆
Fiat Stilo 3dr... Poor mans Brera. I wanted to buy Brera since it came out but it is (still) out of my reach so I got Stilo 3dr with JackRussel-like 1.4 petrol engine.
The new Mazda 3 kinda reminds me of the brera
This is really timeless design.
Thanks for watching mate 👍🏻
Still don’t have an Alfa yet but I will get one someday!
Hi there My first car was the Alfa 156 105 Hp, now I own my first wonderful Alfa Romeo 159 berina 120 Hp from 2007 diesel in silver color , since one year with 255.000kms now it’s about 281.000km real pleasure to drive lot of options real agressive look that’s why I was in love but really heavy, I putted some customs to makes it at my taste. I would like a Brera but the consumption is way to crazy so I’ll choose next the 159 Ti 170 is enought Hp for the weight
Hi Jay,mthanks for watching - I will be driving a 1750 tbi in my next 159 video!
I've got 2 156's and a 159. The 156 has brilliant handling on dry roads and has brilliant feedback through the steering, it's hard not to drive it flat out all the time, on wet roads you have to restrain yourself in the corners though as she will slide, the 159 is the opposite though, while it doesn't feel as sporting of a drive there is still fantastic feedback from the steering and can be pushed through corners on wet roads way faster than a 156. In fact on wet Irish roads once you get used to a 159 it's hard to have faith in the handling of any other saloon car, always heel/toe and blip the throttle on the down change.
Thanks for watching Darren, interesting what you say about the 156 vs the 159. Is your 159 a 4wd version? I have a 2.5 v6 156 and I agree that it encourages you to drive flat out all the time! 😉
@@TheAlfaNut Mine are all just front wheel drive.
@@darrenwalsh6242 Mine too! ;0)
I agree fully when you drive on wet/snow on an alfa 159ti you cant ever drive an other car the same way ! But i can still give credit to the 156 as its extremely reliable too on wet/snowy road
I've added a 2.0 916 gtv to the Alfa fleet, another brilliant car that brings a smile to my face, for a small car it has quite a bit more room in the cabin than my 308 gtb/qv despite the rear seat's, saying that, you wouldn't have adult's in the rear seat's for lack of leg room, but perfect for small children.
Hi, i have a 2.4 JDTM in my sight. Does anyone have some useful advice for what to pay attention to?
Gearbox issues and dodgy (rusty) subframes are two things to be wary of. Otherwise its a fantastic engine 👍🏻
NO gearbox is the f40 the m32 box is the crap one in the 1.9 @@TheAlfaNut
Had a 156 JTD 16v Mjet SW back in the day. Best looking car ever. Just don't mention the snapped cam belt at 70k miles!
Oops - never a good thing to happen! I love my 156 too. Hopefully getting it repaired and MOT'd in the next week or two.
Years ago with my family we were really close to buy an Alfa Romeo 159 station wagon, unfortunately we didn't. I love the car and how it looks, for me his design is amazing.
Hi Danny, the 159 is a great family car in my opinion - its solid and safe feeling and as you say, looks amazing
@@TheAlfaNut the only thing I missed from Alfa is they didn't make a sport version like the 156 Gta or the 147 Gta. Or a "Quadrifoglio" version.
@@Secondheartbeat5 Yes that is a shame - but maybe that also highlights why the 159 is not a favourite performance Alfa?
@@TheAlfaNut Yes you are right :)
I have an 08 jtdm sportwagon. Best damn used car I've bought. I took it between bologna and Rimi and clocked 240kph and I think it could of gone further. This car handles amazing. 0 to 100 6.6 secs.
I have had two 159s both used as company cars, an early 07 plate 159 1.9JTDm 16v 150hp Sportwagon Lusso, did over 110000 miles in 3 years and never missed a beat, the second was a used 11 plate 159 Lusso Sport saloon, 2.0 JTDm 170hp. I bought it at 5 years old with 98000 on the clock, kept it for 2 years and added another 55000 again ultra reliable. Best handling front wheel drive cars I have driven and easily a match for my BMW 3 series. Really wanted to find a 1750TBi Ti saloon but very rare!
Hi Bob, Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad to hear it - Alfa reliability is a very old and very boring stereotype which got old a LONG time ago! Alfas are easily as reliable as anything German, provided they are looked after. Not rocket science really is it?
I bought a 3.2 JTS in that same red a few weeks ago. got it for a bit over 3 grand and its in super condition. 60,000 miles and new brakes, clutch and tyres in the last year or so. Amazing car for the money and very, very nice to drive. goes like a stabbed rat too.
Sounds like a bargain James - I bet you're hoping for snow now, so you can have some fun with the 4WD? :0) Enjoy it.
Dubai has perfect sunny weather. Every day the same. Give me UK weather every time.
I can understand that 🏖. Just a tiny bit more sunshine in the UK would be nice though!! 😂😄
What about the Alfa Romeo 159 mpi 1.8? Anyone any suggestions to buy it?
Hi mate - watch my previous video on this car to see what I think: th-cam.com/video/HKenxPY-SHY/w-d-xo.html
Just subbed, great vid!
Cheers for watching Andy - are you an Alfa nut too?
@@TheAlfaNut certainly am! Have just moved to Turin, Italy from australia to restudy and change career, as a student I'm on the hunt for a bargain wagon.
Can't get much better in the looks department than a 159 sports wagon, I may have found a white ti 2.4 auto with the rare sunroof and q4 options and only 96,000kms :D (now I just have to navigate the Italian car ownership system with little knowledge of Italian.....)
Wow Turin eh? Watch out what you buy in big Italian cities - older diesels are banned jn most of them now ☹️
@@TheAlfaNut thanks for the info! Didn't know, will certainly have to research more now, that could have ended badly....
i have had a 2008 159 sw with the 1.9jtdm 16v for little over a month and its been great i did have to change the driveshaft and some general service but it does have 330 000km so it is expected but i know it still has plenty of life in it since its been serviced well and i will continue to take care of it and hopefully get it over 400 000km which is my goal with this car really to try to get an alfa to high mileage
Wow, 330,000 Km is impressive! Good luck reaching 400k 😎🤞🏻
How much would you expect this to cost to maintain compared to something more like a golf or polo? Getting a second car and would love soemthing more exciting
Probably a little more than a Golf, as there are millions of Golfs and not that many 159's! Golfs are boring man - come on!
Can anyone tell me about the 1.9 JTS version? Looking to buy one as my first car
Hi Jesper - be careful to choose a car with good subframes, as they rust badly on the 159 and Brera! Get the 2.2 if you can - they are better all round. Whichever you choose, get the best maintained car you can afford, with some good service history. Good luck!