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Early last year I called in to a live QnA and mentioned that my total test was at 300 due to a TBI. At that point I had been suicidal to varying levels of severity since the injury about 5 years prior. roughly 2 years after the injury I was hospitalized because I didn't just lose the desire to live, I actively wanted to die. The only thing that stopped me from following through was knowing my son would follow suit one day. I told Rip that I was unsure about pursuing TRT because I was only 33. He strongly recommended I do it. Since my hormones stabilized after starting TRT I have had zero suicidal ideations. I not only want to live, but I've experienced joy for the first time in about 7 years. I'm able to be productive in the gym again. I don't lie in bed, devoid of motivation or desire to do anything. My sex life has been restored. TRT literally saved my life, and I owe a significant portion of that to SSR for being a voice of reason in a sea of fools. I appreciate you all. Keep up the good work.
TRT is a life saving prescription, both figuratively and literally. Glad you are still with us.
TBI sufferers and patients having orchiectomy are the only justified users of exogenous testosterone. I’m glad you were helped.
@@goyourownway9149 that’s ridiculous dude. Low test is low test, who gives a shit about the cause?
@@stevenkalin1438 brilliant. you should take a bunch of test.
@@stevenkalin1438 and when you get diabetes, who gives a shit, just take a bunch of insulin.
Every single man should get their T level checked, regardless of age and symptoms. You need to know what your baseline is, especially if all systems are go. Waiting until you're older you don't really know if the level you test at then is actually low for you individually. All that said, TRT should not be the first choice. If obese, lose weight. If you haven't seen a gym in years, get in the gym. Clean up your diet. After that if still symptomatic, then use TRT. And even that is nuanced. If you're really low and experienced symptoms TRT is an avenue you may want to pursue.😮
This is okay advice. I guess it never hurts to know your testosterone level. If you're healthy and horny as hell, it isn't at all necessary to have your level checked. If you find that the number is normal, move on. If your number is low and you feel poorly - look to the root cause. Stop eating, drinking and start sleeping and weight training.
@goyourownway9149 Respectfully I think if you're healthy and horny is precisely the time to be checked. Then you have an idea of how far off you have fallen as the years go by. Getting it checked at 60 and finding the level is low, well low compared to what? Mid range compared to what. The range of 300 to 1000 is crazy wide. We need to know what our individual level is when all is good, specific to us, not some chart. Not trying to be arguing, I just think it's important we know our own bodies better as we're younger so we can have a better idea of what things should be as we age. BTW, I'm 72 with a natural T level of 578 as of last week. Not bad for an old man, but compared to what I was years ago...I have no idea. Never checked. So are the mild symptoms I experience low T, or something else?
@@geo525252 And no disrespect here. It doesn't hurt to check levels regardless, I suppose. My point was, because T is primarily responsible for libido, if your libido is healthy - your T will be healthy.
Is an 80 year old male going to be as horny for his 80 year old wife as he was when he was 20? Is it because he was 20 OR BECAUSE SHE WAS 20? This seems like common sense to me but I understand it is not very politically correct. If you took and 80 year old man with ED and paired him with a 20 year old female, would she cure his ED? My suspicion is that in a great many cases, she would.
Bullshit..
@geneharrogate6911 you work for the stay sick health care industry? You're a fool or complicit in the industry that wants us sick and weak.
Tons of "trust me bro" advice in this video, seemingly.
Amen Brother!
Off* not _of_
I tested at 130 when I was only 28 yrs old, began TRT for around 8 months but has to stop due to the acne and when I tested again years later I was at around 300 so on the low but normal range
From jay Campbell's book trt optimization (also previous guess on ss podcast) levels in 1960s for males were 800 to 1600. Today levels are 300 to 900 for a normal range. Getting on trt for a male imo is not about "if" it's about when? At 40 I got on. If you want to wait until 50, 60, 70 to each their own. But would you really suggest an 80s or 90 year old shouldn't be on it? Thst would be a Death sentence definitely lowering life span
was there every a thought like, why were my dad's levels higher than mine? why is the answer to just slap on some test? would the same response to diabetes just be to slap on some insulin?
I've heard it said by professionals that if you get on TRT and you don't really need it it can mess you up long term.
But I think we need more people trying non-prescription methods to boost your testosterone before doing TRT. Some of
it can be addressed through lifestyle and diet, but these days people go straight to getting a TRT script.
Off
get me ON TRT
I'm 52, competitve in powerlifting and strongman. I'm not on TRT.
Completely agree when Rip says “(He’s) not that bright”. Drug users always justify their behavior with all manner of excuses.
Curious for other peoples opinions. I’m 35 test level of 415 last I checked. I have no erectile issues, I feel good in general, sleep good train good etc etc. I consider myself pretty happy but that 415 does seem quite low. I would consider TRT however I have small children and a wife and my concern is if I have side effects from TRT such as extreme emotions or irritability etc etc. any one here have such an experience?
ED in a man without know vascular disease is psychological 99% of the time. Test improves libido. Not ED.
TRT stopped my irritability. I ended up coming off of it and within months that irritability was back.
People are equating TRT to blasting gear. And can you blame them? Every American influencer on anabolics has to say they’re on “TRT” to avoid legal trouble. It’s yet another negative externality of the failed war on drugs. Anabolic steroids will destroy your natural T production and make you infertile. But that’s a very different animal from clinical dosages of test.
lol. 8-900 test is fully “on gear”. God bless em, and I’m not mad at them, but let’s call a spade a spade.
Dude I'm interested in how to get ON TRT, not OFF!!!!
Buy test from a good source, inject. Simple stuff
I do not remember where I heard it, but was told at one point in time that if your body is getting something(test., melatonin, etc.) from an exogenous source, it will decrease or no longer produce the hormone.
For a short time yes but your body will recover to make its own after a period of time.
Why get off of it if you’re 55 years old?
Why would I ever get off testosterone?
Elevated RBCs, liver function tests and the formation of deep vein thrombosis.
Goes back, but might not go back to a great level, for some you reason you started, didn’t you?
Of course you can. But you’d never want to go back to the way you felt which made you seek therapy in the first place
This is true.
Why would you want to?
I've been on for years ain't ever getting off!
Read starting strength and then ignore everything else Rip says.
Mark is shilling for Big Testosterone
Also true, but probably unwittingly. And to say there is a "Big Testosterone" is not accurate. There was Big Pharma interest when there was a patented delivery model (transdermal) but there isn't any more.
Lol
When you stop testosterone you will feel worse than ever, as your levela will be lower than ever. And the longer you suppress your natural testosterone the smaller your testicles get, and the longer it takes to rebound. But you never bounce back to your prior levels, all other things being equal. Your HPTA is damaged. You are dependent on T for life unless you want to have worse symptoms. And infertility is rampant in these young guys. They need more drugs to try and have kids. Lots of expense and tests and doctor visits.
The length of time is irrelevant. You can have serious shrinkage in short order if you take enough. Long-term TRT has no effect on testicular size unless you change your dose. If it causes shrinkage, it isn't TRT.
Wrong. Please go on another long tirade about something you know nothing about.
So many people want to treat life as a "choose your own truth" fantasy. You dont have to believe me. But I believe my patients when tey tell me they feel like shit. I believe teir lab results when they are less than 200, and I believe my physical exam which shows an empty scrotum. These men are NOT happy, and they KNOW they fucked up. This is a lifelong dependency on a failed medical system where T is classified as a controlled substance and the average Dr wants nothing to do with it. I always encourage men to avoid the factors of modern life that degrade their hormones - much of what is found in processed food, the herbicides and pesticides on our produce, plastics, and skin care/soaps. Start there before you begin screwing with your hormones. There is a reason so many have low T. Same reason that obesity, diabetes, cancer, and heart attacks keep increasing. Break out of the system, clean up your life, and reassess.
You’re describing the effects of abusing anabolic steroids. Low clinical doses of test under the care of a doctor is a wildly different thing. It’s the same kind of brainless false equivalence that makes too many people claim that an Adderall script is the same thing as smoking crystal meth.
@@JohnDoe-my5ip no
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