Orioles 2nd Half Predictions: Trade Deadline, Roster Moves & More | Major League Baseball
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- The second half of the 2024 MLB Baseball is about to begin and these are my predictions for the second half the Orioles. Trades, Roster Moves, Stats and more!! Enjoy!!
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They were tired, that how come the last games were rough... But Mullins, gave them the umph they needed to come back even stronger and get me a WS for my first year as a fan of the O's and baseball... like your videos.
Let's hope you're right.
Here is the only thing about Crochet... I think any package for him is going to end up having to start with Mayo, Kjerstad, or Basallo. And I am not sure the O's would pull the trigger on that.
I'm not sure it does. The farm system is deep. The Orioles have other quality guys in the system that teams covet. I understand where you're coming from but I think they can swing the deal without one of them included. Time will tell.
Basallo is untouchable.
It takes something to get something. No team is going to settle for some average prospi. You're not going to get any cy young caliber pitcher without giving up at least 2 if not 3 highest rated prospect. @@robertrock8778
Nobody is untouchable. Stop hoarding the prospects! It's time to win!
@@daviddevaney2317 absolutely disagree. As someone who's been a fan since the 70s its important to understand that having a deep farm system and great development is what allows for long term success. Trading for a pitcher doesn't guarantee a World Series.
I expect Povich will be back up as the #5 the first time they need a 5th starter. Maybe Irvin makes 1 spot start. Obviously, the hope is that they acquire someone to push someone out of the rotation and in my opinion... They HAVE to get a quality starter.
I'm done with the Povich experiment for this year. Go back to Norfolk and work on your control. Maybe next year. Move Suarez to the bullpen after we pick up Skubal.
@@daviddevaney2317 Skubal isn't going anywhere
Are the Tigers actively moving him? I'm not 100% sure they are.
They'll get a quality starter. It might not be a stud starter though.
I see like an Eric Fedde as the most likely guy for the O's to get, maybe a Fedde and Kopech combo.
all good points the trade is a good for both teams the Sox wanna get younger and more talent and Crochet helps even outs the rotation so you have your 3rd guy when the playoffs come. I also with the Cowser point April was a long time ago now need to hit better or you get sent down.
Yeah he's gotta start hitting again.
One thing regarding the Crochet trade idea. Norby has been playing the corner outfield positions almost exclusively in Norfolk. I think Elias has long term plans for him for when Hays and Santander leave town. I have Norby right up there with Mayo and Basallo as the untouchable Orioles. He’s that good and isn’t some fringe guy who might play decent elsewhere. He could very well be the best player on the Orioles in a couple years time.
I’d also bet Mayo will man 3rd base if he holds up defensively, Gunnar SS, and Westburg.. not Holliday at 2nd.
Don't be too quick to give up on Holliday. The kid is 20yrs old with a year of minor league play. He's special. Norby certainly isn't a fringe player. That's why I said he won't be a utility guy with the O's. He's a major league ready guy. I won't go so far as to say he'll be the best player on the team in a couple of years. Gunnar, Adley, Mayo, Basallo, Kjerstad and Holliday may have something to say about that.
@@birdlandnetwork83 I’m definitely bullish on Holliday, I just think we’re already heavy with the left handed bats, add that with Westburg being a .280 hitter with 25 - 30 homers, which is what we should reasonably expect for Holliday, I don’t see a clear fit. Westys already doing it.
Now, I’d love to keep him. If Mayo moves to 1st, move Westy to 3rd. Depends what we plan on doing with Basallo. Maybe he’s an option at 1st with Rutchman behind the plate full time.
@@BrianJones-cu2sx good to have these issues right? I'm not sure I see Westburg as a 25-30HR guy annually. Westburg will probably stay at 3B with Holliday at second. If they were to trade Holliday I'd be shocked and it better be for a guy like Jared Jones or Paul Skenes which, of course, isn't going to happen.
Then you need to deal Holliday and Norby. There is no spot in this infield for them.
@@daviddevaney2317 There's always a spot for a special talent like Holliday. I'm shocked at how all of a sudden everyone (except the experts) think the Orioles should give up on Holliday. Mindboggling.
I'm kinda hoping we dont really do much to tell the truth. We have 2 really good starters in our rotation, in Grayson and Corbin. If they wanted to go after another bullpen arm, maybe. But I think folks need to cool it more than anything. This is a team that can win right now with what we've got. I fully believe that.
I think there's something to be said for a team who's come this far and is in first place even with all the injuries. I would agree they can win with what they have. That being said, if the deal is a good one for the Orioles.....any help would be appreciated. Just don't give up the farm to get it.
The rest of the rotation is terrible. A trainwreck. Gotta get another starter otherwise we'll be one and done again.
@@daviddevaney2317 I bet Texas thought the same thing about their rotation last year. Look what happened with them. All you need are two really good starters in a short series and one of the other three to get hot. Very very doable.
@@birdlandnetwork83 my thoughts exactly. Suarez has stepped up to the plate very well considering, and Dean Kremer is of and on, but when he's on, forget it. I think that win over New York the last day before the break will do great things for the psyche of the team moving forward.
@@andrewbsfootballarchives4247 sure hope so. Need the offense to not be so one-dimensional though. Can't just score runs via the home run.
Watched the video mainly for the trade talk. I am surprised there was no mention of Fedde. For me Skubal is a deal that Elias doesn't make because Detroit will want too much. I can see us making a trade for Crochet but we would have to treat him like Wells in the past and move him to the bullpen mostly with the hope of being able to use him in late September and early October to start some games. So knowing Crochet won't likely be in the rotation in August and September, I think they gotta go out and get another starter like a Fedde. So, we either swing a bigger trade for both Crochet and Fedde now or we pass on Crochet and just trade for Fedde and look elsewhere to add bullpen help. When it comes to the bullpen I can't see us loading up for Mason Miller either knowing that Bautista will be back next year so we might have to live and die this season with Kimbrel and add some better middle relief or set up guys. In the second half I expect to see Mayo brought up and maybe Holliday at some point but not likely. For trade purposes I would think Mayo and Holliday are here to stay and most likely Basallo as well. It wouldn't shock me however to see Cowser traded along with players like Norby, Stowers, McDermott, Fabian, and Beavers.
Great thoughts. Thank you for sharing and watching.
I agree but I would not trade Colton Cowser either!
SI baseball writer his prediction not that Detroit would accept it would be Basallo Norby Stowers and Seth Johnson for Skubal
That's not something I'm sure I'd do if I were the Orioles either. Seth Johnson could be a stud pitcher. Basallo is 19 and hits like he's 25!! That's alot to give up for Skubal. That being said if it were to happen I wouldn't lose sleep but I agree I think Detroit will want more so the deal won't get done.
@@birdlandnetwork83 Norby, Stowers and some Elias creativity. Deal the cards! Go Birds!
I'd pull that trade. Norby doesn't have a spot here, Basallo is 2 yrs away & a luxury, Stowers doesn't have a spot. I like Johnson, so it's basically 2 guys with no spots, 1 guy not in immediate plans & 1 guy who is a maybe. Im basically giving up Johnson for Skubal. Skubal puts the Orioles over the top with a playoff rotation of 1. Burnes 2. Skubal 3. Rodriguez. Leaves room for a possible back end starter, Suarez slides to the pen, Povich could possibly go to the pen & can add a 8th inning guy , sometimes closer guy & Coloumbe return.
I would like it better to get Skubal. Crochet has an innings limit and wouldn't be able to go 5 innings in many more starts.
Either would be great. Crochet will have to be tested. It happened last year with Grayson, Bradish and Kremer pitching well past what they previously were used to pitching innings wise so the same may have to happen with Crochet.
@@birdlandnetwork83. Including minors, Grayson went from 103 IP to 122 IP. 144 IP to 172 for Bradish. 125 to 172 for Kremer…. Crochet had 12 IP in 2023. 54 is his career high. He’s at 107 today. You’re at least going to need another 10 starts and 50 IP out of him and that’s before you hit playoffs. Teams aim for 25% load increase. Orioles being a risk adverse team can’t possibly expect Crochet to have a 300% increase and maintain this level of success. Long term move, it’s great. We will need a top rotation arm next year. But it’s a lot to give up for a guy who analytics tell you will fall off this year.
@@tooombay11 totally get the numbers and understand your point. That being said I still think if they trade it'll be for a guy like him. The Orioles aren't just looking at this year. I think they want someone with control beyond this year.
Check out the Locked on Orioles podcast for reasonable takes. Sending cowser down is crazy talk
I've seen it many times. Usually on YT. If Cowser continues to struggle there's nothing wrong with sending him down. Hitting .217 isn't good and the occasional home run shouldn't be enough to save him. Consistency is what's needed. Look at his numbers since May 1st. They're not good. I love Cowser and think he'll be a big part of the future but that doesn't exclude him from a possible reset if needed.
O's should trade with Seattle for Gilbert using: Mountcastle, Cowser, and Povich. Trade with Miami for Scott and Weathers (I'd pu back in bp) using Beavers and Wagner. Then decide if you want to trade Basallo for Miller player for player? I would! 3 legit closers? Hell, yeah!
Let's discuss. Why would Seattle trade away Gilbert? They're in first place in their division and in a great spot to win it and get home field at least for one round? Not sure they would trade him away. The other thing is Oakland won't trade Miller for Basallo straight up. Just don't see it happening and, to be honest, I'm not sure I want him traded. Catchers are so so hard to come by and we have what might be the next Johnny Bench. Thirdly....all these trades are cool but that's assuming these teams want to trade back and there's a fit. So much goes into trades including the willingness of Mike Elias to part with these guys. I'm not sure he will.
@birdlandnetwork83 Seattle needs bats and the O's have them .
I would not trade Cowser thought!
That’s a rotation that cannot win a pennant. We need a starter and solid reliever. We also need to get more consistent with risp! The hr ball is great, but as showed when they aren’t there, we struggle for singles and base knocks.
Westburg needs to stay at second and let Ramon keep third on lock.
Without a solid starter and a possible reliever, our great first half will be all well have to talk about
Now you've bumped YOUR head!! Urias is terrible offensively. He was a gold glove guy ONCE and that was two years ago. The guy is not a full time player and nobody on the Orioles thinks he's anything more than a utility guy. NOBODY gives up on a #1 rated prospect for a guy like that. SMH!!
If this is all we would have to give up to get Garrett Proche if also give up Holiday or Westburg, Stowers, Jud Fabian to Detroit for their Ace also
Why is it everyone is now all of a sudden so sour on Jackson Holliday? The kid is 20yrs old, #1 overall pick, #1 prospect in all of baseball, has been highly successful at every level in the minors and is a great person to boot. Plus you want to give up Jordan Westburg as well? Absolutely not. The other thing is both Skubal and Crochet have had arm injuries in the past. That hurts their stock. Jim Duquette (a highly respected former GM) stated on another show this week guys with previous arm injuries are more prone to have them again. I'm firmly against the Orioles giving up the farm system for two guys who have injury history, limited innings (Crochet) and don't guarantee anything. Remember......this is a first place team without those guys. I gotta disagree you with you sir. Not trading all those guys. I'll trade something but not everything. Thanks for your thoughts.
@@birdlandnetwork83 it's not about being sour on Jackson Holiday. He's blocked at SS and Jordan Westburg is an All-Star who'll play 2nd base when Coby Mayo gets called up. Sam Bassao is a Catcher but will ultimately rotate with Rushman and possibly play some 1st. At this point Holiday is blocked by Westburg and team really want Holiday
1969 all over again, Mets Orioles ws. Mets win in 5
Let's get past the regular season first. Then we can talk. Both teams have looked good and terrible during the season. I'm not getting ahead of myself.
@@birdlandnetwork83 I. Just funnin dude. I was there in 69 so I'm just dreaming. Wish y'all best of luck.
@@matthewguzda4075 all good. Good luck to your Mets. My Orioles are gonna need it the way they're playing lately.
Cowser strikes out far to often
Cowser is a rookie. Mullins is the veteran. Cowser has 86strikeouts in 256 at bats. Mullins has 65 strikeouts in 271 at bats. Mullins has 14 walks. Cowser has 27 walks. Mullins is hitting .214 with 16 steals, Cowser is hitting .217 with 5 steals. Their numbers are very similar but Cowser is much younger (Mullins 29, Cowswer 23). I love Mullins' defense but looking at the whole picture he has to improve.
Skubal to Baltimore for a package that includes Jackson Holiday
I just don't see it happening. I can't see the Orioles trading away the #1 prospect in all of baseball for a guy who has arm injury history. He's been very good and would be a big help but the Orioles are going to look at his injury history and try to package somebody else for him. I still think Holliday is untouchable.....and he should be. Everyone is souring on Holliday all of a sudden (fans and media.....not baseball people). I don't get it.
Mullins bad😂😂 bro is arguably one of the best defensive CF in the league smh
Mullins is arguably one of the worst offensive players in the game right now as well. We have guys that can play center field very well and hit better. I like Mullins but his offense has been a major issue. Why is it people come on here and make comments but can't help themselves and always have to throw a jab first. SMH!!
@@birdlandnetwork83 him and Ramon struggle, but as you stated they often don’t play consistently anymore. Mullins has been awful with his bat without a doubt, but the guy is worth the 8/9 spot just for the grass he can cover. I don’t see Urias sticking around with Mayo coming up I’d think soon? You? If we’re trying a bad bat, I think we mess better with Jordan at 2nd and Urias on third.
Mullins I feel we can’t replace defensively. I know most say Cowser and he’s fair, but you’d agree he’s not a centerfielder?
@@birdlandnetwork83 no jabs champ! I enjoyed you video and I assumed you were taking the jab at my guy Mullins. I just respect the defensive side of the game still and as I’m sure remember it was a time it was priority
@@cowboysnation3472 very much agree it's a priority and I feel Cowser can be almost as good as Cedric in center field plus Cowser has a much stronger arm and is alot younger and will continue to develop. I like Mullins but I gotta be real, his time here is numbered.
@@cowboysnation3472 actually I think Cowser plays center field pretty well and is a good option out there. The times he's played out there he's never hurt us and has made some nice plays. Plus we have Bradfield and the new kid Honeycutt who play center field coming in a couple of years.