Tridentine Latin Mass: Last Sunday after Pentecost (1/8)

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  • @angelo8424
    @angelo8424 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    And here I am, 16 years later, still attending the TLM.

  • @Peach-xd5bt
    @Peach-xd5bt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Hoping to God a Tidentine Latin Mass will be again celebrated in all the Catholic Church in the Philippines... Amen

  • @2012aquinas
    @2012aquinas 11 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The best priests whom I have known gravitated toward the Tridentine Mass. Let us pray that it may come back.

    • @skylarjxdn7648
      @skylarjxdn7648 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I miss the Tridentine Rite but I don’t think we will see it’s rebirth.

    • @SolWaid1965
      @SolWaid1965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@skylarjxdn7648 Actually, it is growing in leaps and bounds. Viva Cristo Rey!

  • @shaunsaega
    @shaunsaega 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This was 14 years ago. Thank God for the spread of Tradition

  • @thomasobrien9134
    @thomasobrien9134 12 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The processional organ melody is: Claude Gervaise - Deux Branles de Champagne
    Thumbs up so everyone can see!

  • @AdversusHaereses
    @AdversusHaereses 13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This mass is what has catechised me. From being a complete modernist I have now gained a better understanding of Who the Eucharist is. That is the King of the Universe who humiliates Himself for us every Holy Mass.

  • @IustitiaPax
    @IustitiaPax 17 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very nice to see how these French Roman Catholic mothers teach their little boys and girls the Christian faith and the love of Our Lord. God bless the holy Roman Church and this, her holy, Roman Liturgy of all apostolic ages.

  • @pcampbell17
    @pcampbell17 13 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Beautiful mass, let's all pray for it's return!

  • @LAPSEDCATHOLIC1
    @LAPSEDCATHOLIC1 13 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful Mass.......much better than Lutheran services.
    This Mass is enriched with Tradition, symbolism, and beautiful Gregorian chant.
    I attend Latin tridentine Mass on Milwaukee's Southside. Beautiful. absolutely lovely.

  • @Archzenom
    @Archzenom 13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    YES! Thank You Lord for hearing my prayer that my local parish will be having a Tridentine Mass this Jan 20! Deo Gratias!

  • @mobrien7128
    @mobrien7128 14 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So beautiful! May we have more and more masses like this!

  • @redheadfo847
    @redheadfo847 17 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I almost cried while watching this. It is so beautiful. NOW THIS IS WORSHIP!!! All glory to God.

  • @ghislaineverlisier9586
    @ghislaineverlisier9586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Souvenir de M. l'abbé Bouchacour, un prêtre pour le combat de la foi, bien intégré d'un esprit de famille de joie de gaieté et qui aime ses fidèles et sa patrie. Que Dieu vous bénisse et vous garde dans la fidélité de la vraie vérité doctrinale.

  • @shimmyhinnah
    @shimmyhinnah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We go to the Tridentine Mass every Sunday and Cannon douses us with holy water every time! He makes sure to hit everybody! 😄

  • @pauloconsolini
    @pauloconsolini 11 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Essa é a Missa que nunca morrerá. Deo gratias.

  • @elisabethnouveau1580
    @elisabethnouveau1580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Que dieu bénisse les prêtres de la FSSPX de nous avoir gardé cette messe sacrée.

  • @StSimonMartyr
    @StSimonMartyr 13 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "I am a priest who for over ten years collaborated in a work that became a notable harm to the Catholic Faith.
    I wish now to apologize before God and the Church and to renounce decisively my personal sharing in that damaging project.
    I am speaking of translating the new post-Vatican II Latin liturgy into the English language, when I was a member of the Advisory Board of the (I.C.E.L.)."
    It waters down the doctrine that the Eucharist is a true Sacrifice."
    -John Smith, Jan 19, 2005.

    • @markandrew2848
      @markandrew2848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      God bless you Father, you have confessed your sin. The new Mass is sinful and it has led many away from our Lord, Christ Jesus.

    • @SolWaid1965
      @SolWaid1965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr. Smith, I hope you are promoting the TLM and say this Mass exclusively! God bless you. I'm aware your comment is from 12 years ago (!!)

  • @franktremb
    @franktremb 17 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    First time I see a latin mass. It's very beautiful and impressive.

  • @lindahanypsiak1981
    @lindahanypsiak1981 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so reverent and beautiful! I pray that the faithful there 17 yrs ago are still in love with The Lord and attending Mass in this incredible Church.

  • @MeanAffe
    @MeanAffe 17 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm so awaiting the motu poprio the pope is going to unveil to the public in this month! Hopefully a congregation will find together in my area and starts efforts to get a tridentine mass around here. It's so beautiful to see a church which is so full of people, I hope the latin and the regulated liturgy will give the church back its unity it always proclaims. With this mass, every Catholic will feel at home every where around the world!

  • @mindspring57
    @mindspring57 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a Ukrainian (Byzantine Rite) Catholic. We are in communion with the Apostolic See in Rome, and we use the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom. We also ordain married men to the priesthood. Although we are not Roman Catholic, we are Catholic, and we are in full communion with the Pope in Rome. Please investigate us.

  • @twominutepenalty
    @twominutepenalty 17 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Absolutely beautiful, thank you very much! I'm OK with the vernacular Mass personally, but I do think every Catholic should go to one Tridentine Mass at least once to be in touch with their history and tradition. Peace be with you brother/sister!

  • @nanabonniez
    @nanabonniez 16 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so beautiful and I am looking forward to being able to attend a church within an hour drive. So holy and reverant and tradtional. I agree that Vatican II has really changed things and I became a Catholic after VII. This might be one of the reasons some people have left because we were no longerCatholic enough.

  • @stanislawbragiel8883
    @stanislawbragiel8883 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We attended the Latin Mass on East Sunday in 1996 at this church.

  • @DomineDeusRex
    @DomineDeusRex 13 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is beyond words, so beautiful...

  • @Hardfacts181
    @Hardfacts181 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The reverence of the congregation in the Latin mass in Paris was amazing to be part of that was so uplifting ....the whole experience made me realise how much we have lost when compared to the modern masses

  • @02kazak
    @02kazak 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    greetings from the Orthodox church in India - Beautiful mass!

  • @BrianBenson-rc9mu
    @BrianBenson-rc9mu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If anyone is in the Boston area there is an amazing church in Lawrence MA that has high Mass every Sunday 10am low Mass all week 8am.

  • @mobrien7128
    @mobrien7128 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Assasincomedy thanks so much! The whole Mass was so wonderful. I hope to attend Mass in this church soon.

  • @IustitiaPax
    @IustitiaPax 17 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The traditional, ancestral, organically formed, Roman Rite of the Holy Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church. Deo gratias!

  • @ferreira13juniorify
    @ferreira13juniorify 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Belíssima !
    Vai ao fundo d'alma.

    • @joaoelias101
      @joaoelias101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cumprimentos aos irmãos portugueses que nos trouxe a fé a luz da verdade. No Brasil celebrou a primeira missa que é a de São Pio V. Aqui celebrando a primeira missa sacrifício incruento que rejuvenesce a nossa alma.

  • @patrykgrzesik7689
    @patrykgrzesik7689 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Asperges me hyssopo, et mundabor lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.
    Miserere mei, Deus, secundum magnam misericordiam tuam.
    Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto.
    Sicut erat in principio, et nunc, et semper,
    et in saecula saeculorum. Amen.

  • @IustitiaPax
    @IustitiaPax 17 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    God bless the holy Roman Church and the Society of St. Pius X which has upheld Catholic Tradition so bravely! Viva Cristo Rey!

  • @Gandalf0
    @Gandalf0 17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We are waiting for the Motu Proprio of His Sanctity. It would be ready tomorrow (Thursday), however in this month. Then we'll have the chance to attend Traditional Mass in our Diocese. God bless us all

  • @79743618
    @79743618 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree Latin and Greek are beautiful languages to worship our Lord in. It is very sad that Priests ttoday do not know Latin. Unfortunatly the Holy Father made it optional. So Priests decided if they want to say the mass in Latin. There are a few churchs that have stayed with the Latin Mass but they broke away from the Catholic church.

  • @mindspring57
    @mindspring57 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your response. The Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom shows no signs of decline. Actually, for us Eastern Catholics, the Second Vatican Council was very liberating, as it gave us the encouragement to maintain (and in some cases, restore) our own traditions.

  • @baroquegenial2009
    @baroquegenial2009 15 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for this videos! very interesting and wunderfully impressions!!! greetings from germany!

  • @savaranola611
    @savaranola611 17 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish I could go to a Mass like that!
    "Omnes semper - ad Jesum, per Mariam, cum Petro"

  • @marekszlachetka1774
    @marekszlachetka1774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Przypominają mi się moje młodzieńcze lata jak byłem ministrantem i chodziłem przy księdzu z wiaderkiem wody święconej, zupełnie inaczej się przeżywało mszę św. niż teraz

    • @dartfan1
      @dartfan1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zawsze można iść na msze trydencka, są odprawiane w coraz więcej ilości miejsc.

  • @karstenknoblauch9275
    @karstenknoblauch9275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wunderschön 🙏🙏🙏

  • @zairaahchajder
    @zairaahchajder 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    q hermoso!! amo la misa tridentina!! viva Cristo rey, y viva lefebvre! y el santo papa benedicto XVI.
    gloria in excelsis deo.

  • @irishcottage
    @irishcottage 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful.

  • @BreviariumRomanum
    @BreviariumRomanum 18 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful.

  • @MrRezillo
    @MrRezillo 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This restores my faith in the French. They're not all atheists, I see.

  • @Jm4steam
    @Jm4steam 18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I as well. I do find it better to meditate throughout the mass. I do know my prayers and Gregorian.

  • @franmon88
    @franmon88 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is the future of the Church!!!!!
    VIVA CRISTO REY!!!

  • @hudsonbailey674
    @hudsonbailey674 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awe-inspiring.

  • @josephmorinello303
    @josephmorinello303 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Mass was celebrated by the SSPX. They kind of just occupied this Church one day......and I'm happy they did it!

  • @79743618
    @79743618 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hAve always had an interest about the Orthadox church I think it's great how your serivces haven't changed.

  • @GrumpyOldTroll
    @GrumpyOldTroll 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    coranglais 54 wrote: "The organ piece played at the Processional is Deux Branles de Champagne by Gervaise, followed by a Gaillarde, also by Gervaise. These pieces are found in a volume published by Editions Musicales Chanvrelin called Pieces de la Renaissance pour Orgue."

  • @PrimaryConsult
    @PrimaryConsult 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2 things: current languages always change. E.g. the original translation of "Dignum et iustum est" was "it is meet and just", which does not make sense anymore. Since Latin is a dead language, the meaning remains constant.
    2nd: You once were able to go to any city in the world with your Latin->English missal and be able to follow the mass, and converse with the clergy in Latin. In this way Latin mitigated the punishment of the tower of Babel.

  • @Ioannes1234
    @Ioannes1234 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can anyone tell me what is the name of praeludium played during procession? Thanks... :)

    • @mecheverriadiaz
      @mecheverriadiaz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Ivan Jordan: It's "Deux Bransles du Champaigne" of Claude Gervaise. Salut!

  • @Menechem
    @Menechem 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Chichiri520 Nice to see that when you were on this week you kept quiet!

  • @stevenj1214able
    @stevenj1214able 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I'd give to go to a parish that was packed with people on Sunday

  • @NihilNominis
    @NihilNominis 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ismacuab I don't know, but I've transcribed the principal theme and used it (with improvised episodes) to similar effect at the beginning of Mass.

  • @MartinEickhoff-e7c
    @MartinEickhoff-e7c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wunderschön !

  • @ukidding
    @ukidding 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about a topping on the communion wafer?
    Possibles could include peanut butter, whipped cream,
    plum jam.
    For cheese lovers there could be french onion dip,
    blue vein cheese, or the economical cheddar.
    What do you plum for?

  • @AdversusHaereses
    @AdversusHaereses 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @brndurham Usually for the Missa cantata (like in this video) or in the high mass, more servers are called to sit in choir and have the benefit of participating in mass in the sanctuary itself. But in the low mass it is rarer. And of course, this may depend from priest to priest.

  • @priest008
    @priest008 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any way, I am a catholic so I forgive you. Any way , here is my point of view of all this: The SSPX is doing a good thing in my oppinion keeping the Latin rite alive in the holy mass, and I think that this mass is beautiful.. If I had the chance to see one I wouldn't miss it.

  • @derrickrouse8565
    @derrickrouse8565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We will have to do this At the basilica in dc

  • @danieljaghab2664
    @danieljaghab2664 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anybody know what song the organist is playing during the precession? Beautiful

  • @priest008
    @priest008 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    exactly! well said

  • @Menechem
    @Menechem 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Menechem I may be a member of a Southern Baptist Church, but I am welcomed at the Pentecostal Church that supports my Pastors cause in raching Jews with the Gospel (he is Jewish BTW).

  • @moisesnanninpereira2764
    @moisesnanninpereira2764 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:00 Asperges Me

  • @NihilNominis
    @NihilNominis 17 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the same, I am thankful for the indult Mass. If you didn't guess already, I would be in a different rite were there an Eastern Catholic church anywhere in the vicinity of my home. As it is, the Latin Mass is the only place wherein I can receive solid liturgy and good theology. Rmember, beliefs are upheld by liturgy, and so the indult Mass is a victory in that wise.

  • @DelendaEstCarthago1
    @DelendaEstCarthago1 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am Catholic and believe in the Messiah, but I also believe in obeying Scripture which tells us to hold fast to the traditions of the apostles, written and unwritten (II Thes. 2.14).
    Stop following traditions of men invented 1500 years after Christ, and obey the Church which Jesus Christ founded and which Scripture calls the pillar and foundation of truth (I Tim. 3.15). Repent and follow Christ in his Church.

  • @MeanAffe
    @MeanAffe 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jepp, Respekt an den Priester, dass der so lange so plateuaartige Kirchenlieder singen kann. Meine Stimme würde schon bei der nächsten Messe total im Eimer.
    Der Papst wird bald das motu poprio zur Erleichterung der lateinischen Messe herausgeben. Bis dahin wird noch gebetet.

  • @PetrusJosephus
    @PetrusJosephus 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @drupes So be it. There are many who call themselves Catholics who don't want us to defend the truth or preach the Way. They say that the Church is not necessary for salvation, they distort and tear down the true message of the Gospel, thus interpreted by the ordinary and extraordinary Magesterium for 1900 years or more.

  • @chicagoboyrn71
    @chicagoboyrn71 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, does anyone know the hymn they were chanting during the blessings of the people? Thanks in advance

    • @gthirane
      @gthirane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Asperges me

  • @josephmorinello303
    @josephmorinello303 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @knieza
    @knieza 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ASPERGES me, * Domine, hyssopo et mundabor: lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor. Ps 50, 3. Miserere mei, Deus, secundum magnam misericordiam tuam. V. Gloria Patri, et Filio, et Spiritui Sancto. R. Sicut erat in principio, et nunc et semper, et in sćcula sćculorum. Amen. Ant: Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor: lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.

  • @AdversusHaereses
    @AdversusHaereses 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @brndurham There are only 2 acolytes, the others are just sitting in choir and preparing to be future servers as acolytes, thurifers or masters of the ceremony.

  • @Dunsapie
    @Dunsapie 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are 5 Masses every Sunday with a total congregation of about 8,000 people. Only the Tridentine Latin Mass is said in this church. I think that the 8 Mass and 18.30 are a low Masses and the 9 and 10.30 are Missa Cantata and the 12.15 is a High Mass.
    The altar boys are young and, as the saying goes, boys will be boys. They will soon learn.

  • @delmarramirez6940
    @delmarramirez6940 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question, why are the Sanctus bells not rung at the Sanctus in the Novus Ordo mass in the Vaticano II didn’t ban it?

  • @steeldawg34
    @steeldawg34 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    well, the older 5 in front assist the priest during mass. all the other young ones in back are optional & don't do much during the ceremony. at some churches like mine, there are barely enough servers to fill the 5 needed positions, so extra torch-bearers (which I assume the little ones to be) arent use except for big feast days like easter.

  • @TenderTrap86
    @TenderTrap86 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anybody have any information about how the SSPX is doing? Has there been any large ruptures since uniting with Rome? How big is the SSPX now?

  • @ixtoc999
    @ixtoc999 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    BEAUTIFUL MASS! Not the novus ordo weapon of mass destruction! LET´S RECOVER THIS TREASURE FOR ALL MANKIND!
    AD MAJOREM GLORIA DEI!

  • @vcp365
    @vcp365 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get a missal! I have a Spanish one! You can find them online, it will change your life!

  • @PetrusJosephus
    @PetrusJosephus 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Furthermore, by these presents [this law], in virtue of Our Apostolic authority, We grant and concede in perpetuity that, for the chanting or reading of the Mass in any church whatsoever, this Missal is hereafter to be followed absolutely, without any scruple of conscience or fear of incurring any penalty, judgment, or censure, and may freely and lawfully be used.- Quo Primum

  • @DanVilAl
    @DanVilAl 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't say that frech CANNOT use it, I said that the french costum is not to wear birettas, it's different.

  • @amaqula
    @amaqula 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @johnthreesixteen316
    I certainly have done so!

  • @TenderTrap86
    @TenderTrap86 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Xeres123, I don't know where this is but I've heard that mass attendence is very, very low in France. Especially in Paris where it's about 5%.

  • @worldchampion1986
    @worldchampion1986 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @franmon88 You said it, I totally 100% agree!!!

  • @brastaseptim
    @brastaseptim 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thisa beautiufl mass, but is it really necessary to have twenty acolytes for one mass? they tend to crowd up the latar a bit.

  • @idle44
    @idle44 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It may be his second or even third mass of the day. To say nothing of visiting, teaching etc. priests work much harder now than formerly as there ais a grave shortage of men willing to put themselves through seminary.

  • @JGMendes4049
    @JGMendes4049 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Si vous voudriez être un prêtre catholique, parlez à votre curé. Faites savoir à lui que vous avez intérêt pour devenir membre d’un ordre des prêtres traditionnels, comme le Fraternité Sacerdotale Saint-Pierre (FSSP) ou l’Institut du Christ Roi Souverain Prêtre (ICKSP). Assurez-vous que l’ordre dont vous devenez un membre est en communion avec le Pape. Bonne chance avec votre vocation !
    S’il vous plaît, ne relevez pas les fautes. Je ne parle pas encore français très bien.

  • @wijse
    @wijse 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes

  • @mindspring57
    @mindspring57 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    One reason that very few priests will offer a Tridentine Mass is that very few know how to do it. No priest under 70 would have any personal experience with the Tridentine Mass, and many from that era are much older or deceased.

  • @brastaseptim
    @brastaseptim 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a beautiful mass, but is it really necessary to have twenty acolytes for one mass? they tend to crowd up the altar a bit.

  • @priest008
    @priest008 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you ask me, if I would be some parish priest I would ask the bishop's permission to allow one tridentine mass on a sunday, if for example on sunday there are 5 celebrations, 1 of them be celebrated high mass in Roman rite. therfore people who feel attached to this mass can attend this one the rest attend to which they want, like that every one is happy.

  • @timconnelly1957
    @timconnelly1957 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    assasincomedy, thank you for that info. Is that the traditionalist org. of St Pius X?

  • @Rookycastle22
    @Rookycastle22 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the organ at the beginning called?? beautiful

  • @TenderTrap86
    @TenderTrap86 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    162ALAN162
    Yes, the exocummications. I do know about the SSPV which split from the SSPX some time ago. I was wondering if any other ruptures have happened since the excommunications were lifted by Benedict XVI.

    • @theromanbaron
      @theromanbaron 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      TenderTrap715 why worry about being with a modernist Rome who kills Cardinals for being Traditional? We know they are infested with Freemasons and homosexuals, so why join if they pose a risk on the True Faith being spread?

  • @amaqula
    @amaqula 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @kiwichristian2009
    He did!

  • @edolch
    @edolch 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DarkWaveSurfer123 Well, it is. Do you see a Deacon or Subdeacon anywhere? Nope. That was quick.

  • @Osteomorphis
    @Osteomorphis 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know what the very first organ piece is called?

  • @Dunsapie
    @Dunsapie 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's the church of St. Nicholas du Chardonnet in Paris.

  • @optimatus
    @optimatus 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a direct liturgical function, but I think it's interesting for those children to see what's happening in the H. Mass.
    (a protestant here).

  • @IustitiaPax
    @IustitiaPax 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is no war between the Society of St. Pius X and the traditional Vatican Holy See. Only seemingly. Hosanna Filio David!

  • @DanVilAl
    @DanVilAl 17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vaya! Sí sabía yo que lo había visto en algun lugar, su cara se me hacía conocida. Gracias por decirme de dónde. :)