That is such a wild take to say “Jimmy Kimmel or Howard Stern is the Joe Rogan of the Left” I feel like you’re missing the point that podcast like Rogan or Theo Von connect better with voters because they have created a *community* within their viewership, that is unlike anything old school traditional media has done.
The best part to me is the "Russia interfered" line. It's the new version of "the moon landings were staged" The moment someone says it you know their brain is full on looney tunes.
Before the election rogan was saying he usually votes for the democrats he voted for Obama and wanted Bernie in 2016 but Hillary got chosen I think rogan is fair to all his guests harris should've went on. Fetterman was a guest during election week and he offered her a chance to come on
Exactly. The age demographic that watches Joe Rogan doesn't care about Howard Stern. He's a has been and irrelevant to modern culture. The same type of celebrities that the Dems trotted out for the Harris campaign. Most are irrelevant or barely relevant to people under 30.
@@dm0016he totally would. They’d agree on most things. That’s what the left misses, Rogan is actually on the left and they’ve labeled him otherwise because they disagree with him on a couple topics
I keep hearing corporate Dems saying we need to be more centrist…that is how we have lost to Trump twice, and if there was no pandemic Biden wouldn’t have been elected. Democracy is not working for people, so corporate Dems trying to defend democratic institutions is a losing strategy. Bold, big, sweeping legislation that demonstrates that democracy works will keep authoritarian out of the US
Exactly. I'm getting tired of PSA guys being stuck in the Obama/Clinton campaign mindset that it's all just TV and print ad "messaging". Voters are immune to ads. They want far left policies. Can PSA get some damn policy wonks on instead of just advertising bros?
@@josefonseca6144 except you can’t do any big, bold legislation because it won’t get through the house and senate. I would love to see a single payer healthcare system for everyone. But, I don’t know how it would get through congress
@ if your first instinct is to blame the voters and not the party and candidate I hope your not politically active because that attitude will continue to condemn the Dems with working class voters
Joe Rogan used to be the Joe Rogan of the left. He was a big fan of Bernie. The more impartant part of this equation is the guest. Look at this history of who he has had on the podcast and you get a clear timeline of his shift in ideology. This is in part because the right has a million people to throw up there and talk to him. The left has no one to represent their side TO someone like Joe Rogan. Bernie does it best but he isn't going to last forever and he is one man. The same thing goes for Theo Von. A month ago Bernie was on there turning this man into a socialist. These podcast hosts are not right wing grifters (some of them are) They are chameleons that aren't trying to fight they are trying to let people talk and blend in and purposefully be non-confrontational. Tim Walz would have KILLED a JRE interview. DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE NORMAL PEOPLE
Imagine a left-wing identity politics activist going in Rogan or Vonn. They would almost immediately become butt-hurt and hostile over some remark by the host and it would be a disaster.
Exactly, Joe Rogan is basically a normal guy who is subject to influence like any other guy. The problem is that the left for the most part won't go anywhere that someone might not 100% agree with everything they might say.
@@NarrowShouldersOpenMind I'm sorry but what "left-wing identity politics activists" are doing media tours to begin with? Tim Walz was as close to a pro-trans voice on the campaign as we got and he only went as far as saying "mind your own damn business." Kamala would only vaguely gesture with statements like "people should be themselves." Are you confusing real life with twitter?
@@NarrowShouldersOpenMind The Dems have a "they/them" problem but also a no sense of humor problem. Many of the sound bites that they clipped from Trump were obvious jokes.
@@badwolftx2139 wtf is a they/them problem. thats a made up right wing talking point. Dems were by no means being super friendly to trans people. you actually exemplify one of the biggest problems with not having a strong voice on the left - they cant control narrative and become whatever people say they are!
A comment on door knockers. I am pretty sure that some people just go along and "agree" with whomever shows up at their door as a form of politeness. No one wants to be confronted or have an argument at their own front door. The fastest way to make the person move along is just to say "yes, yes, of course" and then shut the door and forget all about it.
Door knocking is useless if you’re not connecting with your community outside of elections. Relational organizing is about building relationships long term.
Our campaign knocked thousands more doors than our opponent in a local race and we lost by an enormous margin. It wasn't even close. Doorknocking is not as impactful in 2024 as Democrats think.
@@chucklehead.smitty Agreed. If you're "not from around here" then you'll be as lucky as a vacuum salesperson - which is hit or miss. The quality of door knocking also matters. I am a medical professional and veteran who connected with people while I door knocked. After talking to them, I was told multiple times that they had already been contacted by a door knocker who was "obviously tweeking" or similar. People don't want people at their door that they can't connect with.
Again the idea that the left needs a Joe Rogan is dumb. Joe is an average guy, going around looking at stuff, the left needs to not dismiss Joe Rogan. As for specific left wing populist media, we have it in spades, Pod Save America, TYT, MSNBC, The Daily Show, Hasan Piker, David Pakman, Zeteo and on and on and on. Only the dems are terrified of these mavericks who will call out the donors and money people, its why they dumped Bernie... a bit too honest
None of these podcasts or people move the overton window in the slightest. We need REAL leftists. Socialist activists and people that want America to stop being a capitalistic hellhole, falling behind the living standards of almost every other western nation.
Thank you! Why aren’t they talking about Bernie, Andrew Yang, and others that were able to garner cross party enthusiasm? They had smart people working for them with data. Also, agree it’s insane to think that the “left” need a Rogan. They need to talk to Rogan and everyone else.
Democrats had their Joe Rogan -- Rogan was a Bernie Sanders supporter. Stop running centrists and you might actually inspire people to vote for your party.
But, many of us are centrists. So, I don’t think you can completely ignore that. That’s what makes it so difficult to find a candidate that the majority can get behind.
@@sarahhagen2051 . . . and many of the people who didn't turn out for Harris are progressives, the largest voting block of the last 24 years has been "did not vote". So we should keep running Centrists who either require massive turn out to win, like Biden got from young people in 2020, because that's the policies YOU like?
Joe Rogan was always an idiot conspiracy theorist who promoted rape culture(died laughing on camera while a friend of his detailed how he SAed a woman out of the comedy scene in LA), and white supremacy shit like Egyptians didn't build the Pyramids. He just also likes drugs so people get confused. He's more aligned to the RFK camp than anything else. He's been on that new aged gen X racism/sexism his entire career.
Im tired of this “I think…”…How about what we know. We KNOW that Trumps interview on just Theo Von got more views than the damn presidential debate. Simply look at all the clips channels and dedicated fan channels where those millions of views just for that one interview add up. It’s staring us all right in the face and we’re still “thinking”.
How about something outlandish like a primary, both times Trump has won it's been against a candidate that was gifted the position. If you're running against a populist and don't let your voters choose the candidate you're going to lose
It was the same with Biden. Bernie would've won if they let a real primary happen in 2020. And the only time a pre-selected candidate actually beat Trump he somehow got 10 million extra votes from people that are now missing and no one knows where to find.
Amen. You lose the high ground on "saving democracy" when you undermine your own democratic process and force someome that already failed dramatically in the primaries..... Lets not be naieve, the dnc knew she would lost so they wanted to make sure they could blame racism and sexism.
From everything I've seen/heard over the past week, it's becoming more clear to me which swing voters went for Trump--people who have not yet recovered economically from the pandemic (lower/working class voters, younger voters, even some middle class voters) and people who had concerns about immigration. Sarah Longwell at The Bulwark pointed out that most people don't like Trump as a person AT ALL, but they attribute their financial situation being better under Trump as being a result of something Trump did. They don't understand that correlation is not causation. That's the problem with us Dems, we always swoop in to fix all the shit Repubs have caused and because it takes time to see the results we don't get any credit. Cleaning up messes rarely gets any respect, that's why Biden didn't get any credit either. You can't run on the slogan, "Things could have been much worse." Also, erasing student loan debt, while I personally agree with it, is seen as elitest by folks that haven't gone to college and I when I see it through their lens I don't totally disagree with their viewpoint. If I were a struggling working class person coming out of the pandemic and thought my tax dollars were going to pay off someone else's college loans, I don't think I'd be too happy either. I live in a conservative city in Southern California that went for Trump the previous two times, but soundly rejected him this time. The only way I can explain it is because our city is solidly upper middle class, college-educated voters.
It was like Jon said, Harris really should have gone to talk with Piker. He has a huge streaming audience and it's even bigger on TH-cam. It's not a podcast but it's reaching Millennials and younger. When Piker got kicked out of the Democratic Convention really caused waves in his audience.
Exactly! Those are the type of online personalities that will reach the Joe Rogan bros. Hasan is about the only one with reach and influence to make a difference. He actively works to educate young people and change their political views. The personalities mentioned in the beginning are not it at all.
I’m a hasan fan and didn’t vote for Kamala because of her stance on Gaza. Dems need to go to these influencers and actually listen (not gaslight). Hasan is tapped into the problems his young audience experiences and if Dems actually listen they can address these problems. This won’t happen because donors and capital interest is more important
No democrat should ever associate with Hasan. He isn't simply pro Palestinian, he supports Hezbollah and Houthis and thinks anyone people who like capitalism should go to re-education camps.
Yes dont judge.I would highly recommend the strategy that James Carville calls for and that is speaking loud and long to trump supporters NOT to say I told you so, as they inevitably find out that he will not help them economical and in any other way, but to say "we are so sorry to see how he has BETRAYED you". I feel very strongly that if the dems can put the message of the trump betrayals out every time he inevitably does then the trump supported will be more open to then listen to dems as alternatives. Here he is speaking on the Bulwark on this subject with Tim Miller at 14:40 th-cam.com/video/6zLhAddTsLg/w-d-xo.html
If one's candidacy is all about why you shouldn't vote for the other guy, you don't give them a good reason to vote for you. Stop talking about Trump. It's free advertising for him. Talk about what you will do for America.
You can't get away from the visual of how Kamala was out hanging out with Beyonce instead of sitting down with Rogan. And on the eve of the election night, Kamala's campaign was having Lady Gaga singing -- which was THE SAME THING that Hillary did on the eve of election night. LITERALLY repeating the losing Hillary playbook on that part. And meanwhile, you're seeing a gender gap and you're just doing things that reinforce the image that the right-wing has branded you with -- elitism. It did not do Kamala any favors not sitting down with Rogan. And to not go more on the manosphere for that matter. Not even surrogates were on there. Yes, we can't say that had Kamala done all that, she would have won the election. But C'MON! Democrats need to go where people are -- ESPECIALLY if you're seeing a HUGE gender gap in your data.
Also the left would quickly reject and throw out any liberal podcaster the very moment that podcaster said something they disagreed with. And I say this as a liberal myself. We need to get better at disagreeing with each other, without immediately throwing around the label or “racist” & “transphob”. That’s not going to win anyone over. p.s. I love your podcast and the way you guys cover topics ❤
These types of takes are so irritating. The right throw out people all the time. MAGA is built on throwing out establishment Republicans and attacking Trump opponents, including someone like DeSantis!
The comments about the older Asian woman seemed off to me. I teach English to immigrants, and older Asian women are generally excessively polite. They tend to agree with who they are speaking with to demonstrate that value. I wonder about her spouse. In my area, every older Asian woman I come across is married to a conservative white male who served in the military. That matters in voting behavior. I understand my take is not based on data, but my daily experience makes me suspect the woman mentioned voted for Trump in the end. That’s not to say Asian women are uninformed or can’t think independently, but perhaps generation, marital situation, and culture led to a different outcome than the team hoped for.
I was thinking Hasan as well. My 20 yr old son introduced me to him 5 years ago. I tuned into him the entire election. He needs a bigger platform because he has the young people listening.
Sorry but someone who is pro religious terrorism… yeah hard no with that dude. He is definitely not what the left needs and he hates the democrats for being liberal (the thing that would be required anyways for anything “socialistic”)
@@Moxienova1970given his endorsement for far right religious groups and that he is openly anti liberalism (something we might not have in 4 years) don’t think he should have anything to do with the Dems
@@raquetdudebeen following hasan forever and when did he endorse “far right religious groups”? His take on the failures of liberalism is spot-on. Liberalism does not equate to being inherently democratic. We can have, and should, have a democracy without it. Everything else feels like you’re making stuff up out of spite.
Its crazy to me that you don't think misinformation played a major roll, especially when you acknowledge in the next breath that more than half the country had basic facts about policy, the economy and crime wrong. If it were just a few people, sure they're just uninformed. When its half the country, its something bigger.
We abandoned our base and nobody is talking about it. Trump motivated his base and what did we do? we got Momala to talk about guns with Liz Chaney? We abandoned the left to get right wing moms to vote for a half asian half black woman? This was absurd. So we swapped Latinos for right wing white women? Hmmm that sounds sensible?
To catch up with the Limbaugh/Rogan influence, you have to start with TikTok & Saturday morning shows aimed at kids. Compassion over hatred has to start young. And ridicule of the poor & less educated should stop.
Think when one of the ppl they recommended is actually openly pro Islamic terrorist / freedom fighters that are aligned with Iran, that took lots of drugs and civilians and massacred leftists in their compounds… yeah think that’s gonna detach a few ppl also I think.
@@imalwaysright Because he endorsed Bernie Sanders. However, everyone ripped into Sanders at the time because Rogan didn't think trans women should fight in the UFC. Now nobody has healthcare, trans women still can't fight in the UFC, Sanders is due to retire soon and everyone on the left wants to find a "Joe Rogan" but nobody wants to do that because everyone ripped into Joe Rogan when he endorsed Sanders.
The Rogansphere is not right wing they lean socially left. If you laid out policies only, they would agree with Democrat policies more than Republican policies. The very fact that people are talking about getting the "left wing" Joe Rogan is the main reason why they started moving right. Democrats need to go on these shows with only knowledge of their stance on the issues without being overly scripted and trained, and just talk about why the Democrats policies are better than Republican policies.
No offense but I would think Hasan Piker would be closer to the Joe Rogan of the left since he's less establishment than the Pod and doesn't stick to solely political content, plus he's incredibly popular with young men
We need our own ecology We need Rogans, we need baby political podcasts where occasionally things get announced We need a mainstream where the show boats can get get on TV Ugh
Joe Rogan was on the left but we chased him off with our stupid PC moralising over every comment he made, the current left couldn’t have a Joe Rogan because we’re so puritan and boring to actually have an entertaining podcast
My parents actually live in Queen Creek AZ and I live about 45 minutes west in Mesa. We are all Liberal Democrats. The difference in what you see in people between the two areas is stark. It's really scary! They did put out a Harris sign, but many friends of theirs didn't out of fear of harassment from others in their neighborhood. It was very sad and scary.
No we didn't. No we didn't No we didn't He might have supported Bernie when he was running in 2016 but he was not left by any means. Populism isn't necessarily a left wing ideology, see Trump/Vance/Hawley using it now. Rogan has been on that new aged Gen X racism and sexism his entire career. You can still find footage of him when early on his podcast where he's dying laughing while a friend details how a woman was SAed out of comedy. "So I'd make her give me a blowjob if she wanted to do her set, and then I'd cum in her ear before she went on stage" that kind of shit.
It's not gonna work now though; the goodwill has gone. They see Trump as an authentic person, because he came to the seen by fighting the Republican part machine. If you have a parallel to that in the dem primaries, then that person may be seen as an authentic person who will enact the policies she promotes, otherwise there will be no trust there, even if the dems advocate for those policies through the medium of a buttoned up establishment type politician.
I bet it’s too late now. But yes perhaps. I have a feeling he will go with the Elon view of the world. Which means “freedom” but also conspiracies whenever they feel like it. Less regulations when you’re rich means less people can stop you from doing what you want. Works perfectly for all of them.
I think there is something to this, we need people who are left leaning but spend 95% of the time talking about other things and just sprinkle in a bit of politics. And they need to drop daily podcasts and create a cult following.
Mark Cuban ‘28. Traditional politicians are done. BTW, no one talks about the “church echo chamber.” They have the most successful “news” channel, AM radio, podcasts, TH-cam, male sports, X, FB (to an extent), most of the military…and churches. They’re playing chess, not checkers.
I am disinclined to support paid journalism. I took out multiple subscriptions in 2016. Maintained some, though not all, of them. But I don't feel well served by having done that. I have no plans to continue.
PSA needs to head up the creation of a network of left media. Merge together with BTC, Ben Dixon, Leeja Miller, etc. Air each others videos/casts. Stream together. Have different shows with slightly different views, but all on the left
Ya the quickest way is to Buttigieg there already made media framework, make a name for yourself by going having honest conversations and then start your own. That way you will potentially have viewership from both wings.
27:04 I’m in Scottsdale, AZ, my 84 yo neighbor ran out the day after the election to remove the Harris-Walz sticker on her car out of fear his supporters would vandalize her car. On the plus side, we did have Democratic volunteers visit us on the Sunday before. I had them (two 20-ish young girls) go over to visit my 84 yo neighbor, because she hadn’t been on the radar of the local Democratic Party for visits. She loved having those girls visit, ah invited them in, they showed her how to check if her vote had been received and tallied. GOTV should also focus on older voters because many are lonely and want to chat.
I cant believe im gonna be this guy. Peanut the Squirrel bit ... Who? The animal control team that showed up. The owners were forced to sit outside the home while animal control (NY DEC) checked their house for animals that they didnt have explicit permission to keep. Bit of a Tiger King situation? However, Peanut had been in their care for years, was a baby squirrel orphan, and appeared by all counts to be well cared for by these individuals and would not have been okay released in the wild after being domesticated. So, a bunch of humans walk in to catch the squirrel rather than letting the owner/handler pick him up. And the squirrel bit the animal control agent. And then they used the "oh no rabies" rule to kill the squirrel and test it for rabies ... Which, obviously, negative ... It lives in a home with humans. So its an unusual situation but Peanut was an amazing squirrel i had been watching for awhile and the Elon Musk sell of "this is government overreach" was easy to do. Even though IMO this is the petty tyranny of local government. So ... Idk, please dont laugh off the Peanut story. It is tragic and since the GOP chose to make it a thing, wouldve been nice if Democrats could have shown compassion and agreed this is gross.
I put a Harris/Walz sign out regardless of being in deep red Tennessee. Within one week our cat was killed under mysterious circumstances followed shortly after by two flat tires in the same week.
And to me... it's absolutely clear that only one side would be responsible for that kind of BS. How many videos or clips did we see of young trumpies stealing Harris Walz signs? How many reports did we see of democratic supporters? Volunteers? Stealing Trump/Vance signs ? I didn't see one.
Stern is too detached from regular people. He is for Neo-lib boomers and gen Xers. I still think to his Hillary interview and getting more and more upset as it sounded like two rich people talking about how poor people don't do enough...
People don’t like randos showing up at their house to talk about politics. It woke up my friend’s baby napping and ruined everyone’s day after. Another strategy pleaze
Well I guess Max is right that there is no part of the federal bureaucracy that can be laid off. Next he'll say that there no corruption in the Democratic party.
You clearly didn't hear JD Vance on these podcasts. He was a wicked good speaker and the most relatable person out of the 4 in the race. It is clear you are both talking about things you have no clue about.
The left is still attacking this fake Vance “couch fucker” straw man and have disrespected and underestimated the generational talent who will soon f*ck them over all over again.
Two things can be true: people are upset with their own financial situation and the Republican Party Line is not popular. People want money in their pocket, healthcare and a reliable retirement. If you want a Left podcaster, go with Trae Crowder.
Eminem is honestly the best answer for a future Democratic party. He comes from humble upbringings that everyone knows about, he had a movie made of him, he doesn't talk like a politician but when you listen to him, he is incredibly smart and speaks increadibly well, and he got that cool factor to bring in new voters. The only issue is...would he even want to do it?
Max could have been talking my neighborhood, another Phoenix suburb full of big trucks, waving flags and rude signs/bumper stickers. This time I didn't want to be silenced by all the Trump signs in my neighborhood. I wanted other Democrats to know they had allies living amongst them, and I wanted the Trumpers to think twice, that hey maybe neighbors they though of as people were actual human and not the liberal elite to hate. The mom across the street from me put her sign up first. And I felt like, you know she's brave enough to do it, I'm going to do it too. I think it's harder sometimes for our high school kids though. My daughter was worried that her friends' parents might not drop them off for her Halloween party once they saw my Harris sign and my best friends daughter begged and begged for her to take hers down for fear of being called out at school.
The Rogan situation is actually a great fulcrum for this debate. Joe Rogan is a perennial swing voter who has a hodgepodge of views. In 2020, he supported Bernie. The result was that a minority of people on the left (yes, centrists AND demsocs) complained and said Bernie was platforming an “anti trans hack.” This is a culture problem on the left that needs to be reckoned with. They care more about disagreement than agreement.
My question is why is the number of mail in ballots returned 13% lower than in 2020. I'm talking in relative numbers, not absolute numbers. Obviously in 2020 there were more mail in ballots total, but this year the return rate was 13% less... USPS where are the ballots. Also, the return rate of mail in ballots for 2016 and 2020 is ~70%. This year it was 58%!! Where are our mail in ballots!!!??!?!
I've been seeing a bunch of people reposting that clip of Hasan talking about how the online media space is so dominated by right wing perspectives, but if you listen to Hasan he also says "you can't just podcast your way out of this, you need to meet people where they are and offer them things that will improve their material conditions." The DNC does not make an effort to reach out via online content creators, and they aren't willing to endorse left wing populist policies like those promoted by Bernie. They would rather soft pedal right wing neoliberal policies to moderate Republicans. If they don't embrace the left wing of their base and offer people a clear contrast with the Republican party on policy, they won't win. They can't out-Republican the Republicans, especially not by being Diet Republicans.
Disagree about "misinformation"; that facts do not matter in certain information/media ecosystems is the result of mis/dis-information becoming more ingrained than ever. Just because it's "built-in" now doesn't make it less a factor.
As ridiculous as this subject may sound, I did hear that some young people voted for Trump because Harris did not go on the Joe Rogan podcast. Ridiculous.
I feel like we need a few highly charismatic people out there, like now, talking about how bad Trump is, being normal, letting people nationally get to know him/her and laying the groundwork now for sorting out who will do well. We need to invest in that very early now. If Kamala knew she was running and used her time as VP to visible and connect with people as a character, I feel things would have gone differently. Not that she did anything wrong, just the game has changed.
What happened to “the home of the brave?” The Democrats want people to feel scared of Trump and if someone just has moxy and doesn’t feel afraid it makes the Dem messenger sound like an uptight lunatic.
Really funny to see PSA slowly become more right wing. Describing the Bulwark, a podcast that is openly ran by neoconservative republicans as the only one of the other left leaning podcasts in the top 20 is wild.
I think there were mainly two issues with this. Firstly, it's important to understand that the target demo for JRE and other like podcasts/content is men in the 18-29 and 30-39 voter demographic. I think on some level, Kamala simply didn't see these people are being a part of her coalition. Secondly, the content of all of these shows can be broadly categorized into two categories. "Young men's issues" and "shit young men are interest in." I think Kamala and her team simply aren't very interested in many things that young men are interested in, and think that the only issue facing young men today is that they aren't deferential enough to young women.
Harris lost because something happened with our mail-in ballot vote. This year the mail-in ballot return rate was 13% less than 2016 and 2020... USPS where are our mail-in ballots!!!??!?!
It doesn't really matter because at the end of the day you're on TH-cam. A platform Elon helped get funded and got rich off You're going to use Uber and benefit from GPS and space launched those satellites If you use Airbnb or stripe Elon benefits Starlink or Tesla? Utilities use it's batteries or Uber use Teslas to get around He's a venture capitalist and a good one.
Trevor Noah. Work with him in building a podcast networks not necessarily.just political where engagement from youth can be drummed up. I think Dems have to be willing to go on some wackery though to break up the echo.
You can't compare the two campaigns when only one had to consider facts when pushing their message. Also, no need for foreign interference when 98% of the republican party is MAGA and willing to say anything to not push back against the Trump campaign.
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No Oprah and stern have absolutely no sway with the under 50 people.
Right? I'm well over 50 and even I did a double take when they said Oprah.
The left is not beating their 'out of touch' label thats for sure
You know Harris paid Opera like a million dollars for her endorsement.
oprah at her most popular probably had sway with 90% of women in america lets be honest here
@@Binsel22 Oprah was P a i d for her appearance on behalf of H A R I S.
And the H campaign spent 6 figures building the Call Daddy podcast set.
That is such a wild take to say “Jimmy Kimmel or Howard Stern is the Joe Rogan of the Left”
I feel like you’re missing the point that podcast like Rogan or Theo Von connect better with voters because they have created a *community* within their viewership, that is unlike anything old school traditional media has done.
i think howard stern did a good job creating a parasocial relationship with his viewers back when he was mega popular. nowadays not so much
@ yes definitely! I think at the height of his career Stern definitely was the 90s or early 2000s version of Joe Rogan.
The best part to me is the "Russia interfered" line. It's the new version of "the moon landings were staged" The moment someone says it you know their brain is full on looney tunes.
^ MAGA don’t believe in the moon landings
Before the election rogan was saying he usually votes for the democrats he voted for Obama and wanted Bernie in 2016 but Hillary got chosen I think rogan is fair to all his guests harris should've went on. Fetterman was a guest during election week and he offered her a chance to come on
Did you seriously say the "Rogan of the left is Howard Stern?" You guys are 30 years behind the times.
PSA is going after the critical new and rental car free XM radio boomer voter.
Exactly. The age demographic that watches Joe Rogan doesn't care about Howard Stern. He's a has been and irrelevant to modern culture. The same type of celebrities that the Dems trotted out for the Harris campaign. Most are irrelevant or barely relevant to people under 30.
Ridiculous you guys dont have a clue.
I am a 50 year old woman and I know that Howard stern is not relevant today especially for younger generation.
Srs case of delulu
Jon Favreau should be going on Rogan, etc. and vice-versa.
Yes! I think he'd do well.
@@dm0016he totally would. They’d agree on most things. That’s what the left misses, Rogan is actually on the left and they’ve labeled him otherwise because they disagree with him on a couple topics
I agree
@@JordanLee-pk1cbwhat’s he “on the left” on?
Yes!!!!! We need smart people informing those voters!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Rogan was the Joe Rogan of the left until like 2 months ago
Loling at the notion that Stern has relevance in 2024
Ya that made me lol. Oprah? Howard Stern... Like you guys are out of touch if that's your comparison to Rogan.
PSA is going to suggest Sky Writing and Bathroom Graffiti next.
Hasn’t been relevant for 15 years.
Who’s even got a Sirris XM account?
I keep hearing corporate Dems saying we need to be more centrist…that is how we have lost to Trump twice, and if there was no pandemic Biden wouldn’t have been elected. Democracy is not working for people, so corporate Dems trying to defend democratic institutions is a losing strategy. Bold, big, sweeping legislation that demonstrates that democracy works will keep authoritarian out of the US
Exactly. I'm getting tired of PSA guys being stuck in the Obama/Clinton campaign mindset that it's all just TV and print ad "messaging". Voters are immune to ads. They want far left policies. Can PSA get some damn policy wonks on instead of just advertising bros?
@@josefonseca6144 except you can’t do any big, bold legislation because it won’t get through the house and senate. I would love to see a single payer healthcare system for everyone. But, I don’t know how it would get through congress
@ and that will be the death of our democracy.
We lost because people believed an educated black woman was a marxist. HOW CAN YOU GET MORE LEFT THAN being thought a MARXIST!!??!!??!!??!!????
@ if your first instinct is to blame the voters and not the party and candidate I hope your not politically active because that attitude will continue to condemn the Dems with working class voters
The left had a Joe Rogan, HIS NAME WAS JOE ROGAN. He endorsed Bernie in 2016.
@@dragonbeardable I think AOC could go on his podcast. She speaks like a normal person.
@@sarahhagen2051 if they get into a trans debate it will be so awkward
@@txsiimk
She would be fine.
Joe Rogan used to be the Joe Rogan of the left. He was a big fan of Bernie. The more impartant part of this equation is the guest. Look at this history of who he has had on the podcast and you get a clear timeline of his shift in ideology. This is in part because the right has a million people to throw up there and talk to him. The left has no one to represent their side TO someone like Joe Rogan. Bernie does it best but he isn't going to last forever and he is one man. The same thing goes for Theo Von. A month ago Bernie was on there turning this man into a socialist. These podcast hosts are not right wing grifters (some of them are) They are chameleons that aren't trying to fight they are trying to let people talk and blend in and purposefully be non-confrontational. Tim Walz would have KILLED a JRE interview. DEMOCRATS NEED TO BE NORMAL PEOPLE
Imagine a left-wing identity politics activist going in Rogan or Vonn. They would almost immediately become butt-hurt and hostile over some remark by the host and it would be a disaster.
Exactly, Joe Rogan is basically a normal guy who is subject to influence like any other guy. The problem is that the left for the most part won't go anywhere that someone might not 100% agree with everything they might say.
@@NarrowShouldersOpenMind I'm sorry but what "left-wing identity politics activists" are doing media tours to begin with? Tim Walz was as close to a pro-trans voice on the campaign as we got and he only went as far as saying "mind your own damn business." Kamala would only vaguely gesture with statements like "people should be themselves." Are you confusing real life with twitter?
@@NarrowShouldersOpenMind The Dems have a "they/them" problem but also a no sense of humor problem. Many of the sound bites that they clipped from Trump were obvious jokes.
@@badwolftx2139 wtf is a they/them problem. thats a made up right wing talking point. Dems were by no means being super friendly to trans people. you actually exemplify one of the biggest problems with not having a strong voice on the left - they cant control narrative and become whatever people say they are!
You have no idea what the media landscape will be in four years because everything is moving so fast and changing constantly.
A comment on door knockers. I am pretty sure that some people just go along and "agree" with whomever shows up at their door as a form of politeness. No one wants to be confronted or have an argument at their own front door. The fastest way to make the person move along is just to say "yes, yes, of course" and then shut the door and forget all about it.
I would treat them like jehova’s witnesses and salesmen, I don’t know you, I’m not home.
Door knocking is useless if you’re not connecting with your community outside of elections. Relational organizing is about building relationships long term.
Our campaign knocked thousands more doors than our opponent in a local race and we lost by an enormous margin. It wasn't even close. Doorknocking is not as impactful in 2024 as Democrats think.
@@chucklehead.smitty Agreed. If you're "not from around here" then you'll be as lucky as a vacuum salesperson - which is hit or miss.
The quality of door knocking also matters. I am a medical professional and veteran who connected with people while I door knocked. After talking to them, I was told multiple times that they had already been contacted by a door knocker who was "obviously tweeking" or similar. People don't want people at their door that they can't connect with.
Again the idea that the left needs a Joe Rogan is dumb. Joe is an average guy, going around looking at stuff, the left needs to not dismiss Joe Rogan. As for specific left wing populist media, we have it in spades, Pod Save America, TYT, MSNBC, The Daily Show, Hasan Piker, David Pakman, Zeteo and on and on and on. Only the dems are terrified of these mavericks who will call out the donors and money people, its why they dumped Bernie... a bit too honest
Yes this is accurate
Also, "The Bulwark" podcast, Secular Talk, the Humanist Report, etc.
None of these podcasts or people move the overton window in the slightest.
We need REAL leftists. Socialist activists and people that want America to stop being a capitalistic hellhole, falling behind the living standards of almost every other western nation.
Thank you! Why aren’t they talking about Bernie, Andrew Yang, and others that were able to garner cross party enthusiasm? They had smart people working for them with data.
Also, agree it’s insane to think that the “left” need a Rogan. They need to talk to Rogan and everyone else.
But MAGA and Rogan and all that machine is big money
Democrats had their Joe Rogan -- Rogan was a Bernie Sanders supporter. Stop running centrists and you might actually inspire people to vote for your party.
But, many of us are centrists. So, I don’t think you can completely ignore that. That’s what makes it so difficult to find a candidate that the majority can get behind.
@@sarahhagen2051 . . . and many of the people who didn't turn out for Harris are progressives, the largest voting block of the last 24 years has been "did not vote". So we should keep running Centrists who either require massive turn out to win, like Biden got from young people in 2020, because that's the policies YOU like?
@@sarahhagen2051 no, actual left or bust.
@ good luck with that
Joe Rogan was always an idiot conspiracy theorist who promoted rape culture(died laughing on camera while a friend of his detailed how he SAed a woman out of the comedy scene in LA), and white supremacy shit like Egyptians didn't build the Pyramids. He just also likes drugs so people get confused. He's more aligned to the RFK camp than anything else. He's been on that new aged gen X racism/sexism his entire career.
Im tired of this “I think…”…How about what we know. We KNOW that Trumps interview on just Theo Von got more views than the damn presidential debate. Simply look at all the clips channels and dedicated fan channels where those millions of views just for that one interview add up. It’s staring us all right in the face and we’re still “thinking”.
How about something outlandish like a primary, both times Trump has won it's been against a candidate that was gifted the position. If you're running against a populist and don't let your voters choose the candidate you're going to lose
It was the same with Biden. Bernie would've won if they let a real primary happen in 2020. And the only time a pre-selected candidate actually beat Trump he somehow got 10 million extra votes from people that are now missing and no one knows where to find.
Amen. You lose the high ground on "saving democracy" when you undermine your own democratic process and force someome that already failed dramatically in the primaries..... Lets not be naieve, the dnc knew she would lost so they wanted to make sure they could blame racism and sexism.
Jon Stewart podcast is in the top 10 as well
Jon Stewart is mostly s political podcast though, politicians are only 1 percent of who joe interviews
No what they need to do is show up at JR! Specially when he invites them!😂
From everything I've seen/heard over the past week, it's becoming more clear to me which swing voters went for Trump--people who have not yet recovered economically from the pandemic (lower/working class voters, younger voters, even some middle class voters) and people who had concerns about immigration. Sarah Longwell at The Bulwark pointed out that most people don't like Trump as a person AT ALL, but they attribute their financial situation being better under Trump as being a result of something Trump did. They don't understand that correlation is not causation. That's the problem with us Dems, we always swoop in to fix all the shit Repubs have caused and because it takes time to see the results we don't get any credit. Cleaning up messes rarely gets any respect, that's why Biden didn't get any credit either. You can't run on the slogan, "Things could have been much worse." Also, erasing student loan debt, while I personally agree with it, is seen as elitest by folks that haven't gone to college and I when I see it through their lens I don't totally disagree with their viewpoint. If I were a struggling working class person coming out of the pandemic and thought my tax dollars were going to pay off someone else's college loans, I don't think I'd be too happy either. I live in a conservative city in Southern California that went for Trump the previous two times, but soundly rejected him this time. The only way I can explain it is because our city is solidly upper middle class, college-educated voters.
It was like Jon said, Harris really should have gone to talk with Piker. He has a huge streaming audience and it's even bigger on TH-cam. It's not a podcast but it's reaching Millennials and younger. When Piker got kicked out of the Democratic Convention really caused waves in his audience.
Exactly! Those are the type of online personalities that will reach the Joe Rogan bros. Hasan is about the only one with reach and influence to make a difference. He actively works to educate young people and change their political views. The personalities mentioned in the beginning are not it at all.
@@chucklehead.smitty Hasan's audience is trans and women, lol. They're all left wing activist already.
I’m a hasan fan and didn’t vote for Kamala because of her stance on Gaza. Dems need to go to these influencers and actually listen (not gaslight). Hasan is tapped into the problems his young audience experiences and if Dems actually listen they can address these problems. This won’t happen because donors and capital interest is more important
No democrat should ever associate with Hasan. He isn't simply pro Palestinian, he supports Hezbollah and Houthis and thinks anyone people who like capitalism should go to re-education camps.
@@Some.real.human.and what’s Trump’s stance on Gaza? 👀
I’m genuinely starting to believe y’all are the problem. Howard Stern? Oprah? Are you kidding?
Serve the voters, not the big money special interests. Then you take the wins and messages to the people outside of media bubbles.
But they are funded by the big money special interests so..... We need to fire the dnc and demand transparent primaries.
Yes dont judge.I would highly recommend the strategy that James Carville calls for and that is speaking loud and long to trump supporters NOT to say I told you so, as they inevitably find out that he will not help them economical and in any other way, but to say "we are so sorry to see how he has BETRAYED you". I feel very strongly that if the dems can put the message of the trump betrayals out every time he inevitably does then the trump supported will be more open to then listen to dems as alternatives. Here he is speaking on the Bulwark on this subject with Tim Miller at 14:40 th-cam.com/video/6zLhAddTsLg/w-d-xo.html
If one's candidacy is all about why you shouldn't vote for the other guy, you don't give them a good reason to vote for you. Stop talking about Trump. It's free advertising for him. Talk about what you will do for America.
You can't get away from the visual of how Kamala was out hanging out with Beyonce instead of sitting down with Rogan. And on the eve of the election night, Kamala's campaign was having Lady Gaga singing -- which was THE SAME THING that Hillary did on the eve of election night. LITERALLY repeating the losing Hillary playbook on that part. And meanwhile, you're seeing a gender gap and you're just doing things that reinforce the image that the right-wing has branded you with -- elitism. It did not do Kamala any favors not sitting down with Rogan. And to not go more on the manosphere for that matter. Not even surrogates were on there. Yes, we can't say that had Kamala done all that, she would have won the election. But C'MON! Democrats need to go where people are -- ESPECIALLY if you're seeing a HUGE gender gap in your data.
Also the left would quickly reject and throw out any liberal podcaster the very moment that podcaster said something they disagreed with.
And I say this as a liberal myself. We need to get better at disagreeing with each other, without immediately throwing around the label or “racist” & “transphob”. That’s not going to win anyone over.
p.s. I love your podcast and the way you guys cover topics ❤
These types of takes are so irritating. The right throw out people all the time. MAGA is built on throwing out establishment Republicans and attacking Trump opponents, including someone like DeSantis!
Amen
Yiu mean the libs would disregard those issues the moment they are brought up?
The comments about the older Asian woman seemed off to me. I teach English to immigrants, and older Asian women are generally excessively polite. They tend to agree with who they are speaking with to demonstrate that value. I wonder about her spouse. In my area, every older Asian woman I come across is married to a conservative white male who served in the military. That matters in voting behavior. I understand my take is not based on data, but my daily experience makes me suspect the woman mentioned voted for Trump in the end. That’s not to say Asian women are uninformed or can’t think independently, but perhaps generation, marital situation, and culture led to a different outcome than the team hoped for.
The fact they don’t understand the Peanut situation is exactly why the Democrats lost. They are so out of touch with average Americans.
Dude no one else knew about the squirrel the Right latched on to.
@ because suburban, white collar people don’t ever encounter government overreach.
@ because suburban, white collar people don’t ever encounter government overreach.
@@TexasConnor
You are harping about a squirrel you weirdo
@ I am harping about an animal who was a family’s pet for years.
saying that 'we have jimmy kimmel' and not mention someone Hasan Piker makes you look really really out of touch guys...sorry to say
I was thinking Hasan as well. My 20 yr old son introduced me to him 5 years ago. I tuned into him the entire election. He needs a bigger platform because he has the young people listening.
Hasan is Hamas supporter and hates America
Sorry but someone who is pro religious terrorism… yeah hard no with that dude. He is definitely not what the left needs and he hates the democrats for being liberal (the thing that would be required anyways for anything “socialistic”)
@@Moxienova1970given his endorsement for far right religious groups and that he is openly anti liberalism (something we might not have in 4 years) don’t think he should have anything to do with the Dems
@@raquetdudebeen following hasan forever and when did he endorse “far right religious groups”? His take on the failures of liberalism is spot-on. Liberalism does not equate to being inherently democratic. We can have, and should, have a democracy without it. Everything else feels like you’re making stuff up out of spite.
Its crazy to me that you don't think misinformation played a major roll, especially when you acknowledge in the next breath that more than half the country had basic facts about policy, the economy and crime wrong. If it were just a few people, sure they're just uninformed. When its half the country, its something bigger.
We abandoned our base and nobody is talking about it. Trump motivated his base and what did we do? we got Momala to talk about guns with Liz Chaney? We abandoned the left to get right wing moms to vote for a half asian half black woman? This was absurd. So we swapped Latinos for right wing white women? Hmmm that sounds sensible?
The Supreme Court has already trashed federal regulations and requires Congress to pass laws to replace those regulations.
To catch up with the Limbaugh/Rogan influence, you have to start with TikTok & Saturday morning shows aimed at kids. Compassion over hatred has to start young. And ridicule of the poor & less educated should stop.
Are you saying limbaugh and rogan are the same audience??
Joe Rogan was on the left but you detached nutjobs lost him.
Think when one of the ppl they recommended is actually openly pro Islamic terrorist / freedom fighters that are aligned with Iran, that took lots of drugs and civilians and massacred leftists in their compounds… yeah think that’s gonna detach a few ppl also I think.
How? Because he said vaccines are bad?
The idea that the people criticising Rogan are nuts but not Rogan himself is insane. Rogan is a batshit conspiracist.
Rogan did that to himself.
@@imalwaysright Because he endorsed Bernie Sanders. However, everyone ripped into Sanders at the time because Rogan didn't think trans women should fight in the UFC. Now nobody has healthcare, trans women still can't fight in the UFC, Sanders is due to retire soon and everyone on the left wants to find a "Joe Rogan" but nobody wants to do that because everyone ripped into Joe Rogan when he endorsed Sanders.
The Rogansphere is not right wing they lean socially left. If you laid out policies only, they would agree with Democrat policies more than Republican policies. The very fact that people are talking about getting the "left wing" Joe Rogan is the main reason why they started moving right. Democrats need to go on these shows with only knowledge of their stance on the issues without being overly scripted and trained, and just talk about why the Democrats policies are better than Republican policies.
"we gotta get her on left leaning shows" after mentioning how Rogan was a Bernie bro. 😂
No offense but I would think Hasan Piker would be closer to the Joe Rogan of the left since he's less establishment than the Pod and doesn't stick to solely political content, plus he's incredibly popular with young men
Fuck it, Bernie '28
We need our own ecology
We need Rogans, we need baby political podcasts where occasionally things get announced
We need a mainstream where the show boats can get get on TV
Ugh
Wow these 2 really don’t get it…
Please do not give Emma and Austin mics because fact-checks that come in from off-mic are always funnier.
Don’t ask me why, they just are.
Joe Rogan was on the left but we chased him off with our stupid PC moralising over every comment he made, the current left couldn’t have a Joe Rogan because we’re so puritan and boring to actually have an entertaining podcast
Right wing is puritan too. It’s basically morality Christian nationalism. If you don’t follow that, you’re out.
@@imalwaysrightbut they embrace Trump….. and even compared him to king David on the ground that David also committed adultery. 😂
Joe Rogan went hard right because he's a crazed anti vaxxer let's be honest here.
The Adam Friedland Show is the best Center Left podcast in the business.
If a person cannot talk to Mr Rogan they cannot talk to America either.
My parents actually live in Queen Creek AZ and I live about 45 minutes west in Mesa. We are all Liberal Democrats. The difference in what you see in people between the two areas is stark. It's really scary! They did put out a Harris sign, but many friends of theirs didn't out of fear of harassment from others in their neighborhood. It was very sad and scary.
The left had Rogan.
The left had Rogan.
The left had Rogan.
Rogan was a Bernie guy, support the policies that made him a Bernie guy
No we didn't.
No we didn't
No we didn't
He might have supported Bernie when he was running in 2016 but he was not left by any means. Populism isn't necessarily a left wing ideology, see Trump/Vance/Hawley using it now. Rogan has been on that new aged Gen X racism and sexism his entire career. You can still find footage of him when early on his podcast where he's dying laughing while a friend details how a woman was SAed out of comedy. "So I'd make her give me a blowjob if she wanted to do her set, and then I'd cum in her ear before she went on stage" that kind of shit.
It's not gonna work now though; the goodwill has gone. They see Trump as an authentic person, because he came to the seen by fighting the Republican part machine. If you have a parallel to that in the dem primaries, then that person may be seen as an authentic person who will enact the policies she promotes, otherwise there will be no trust there, even if the dems advocate for those policies through the medium of a buttoned up establishment type politician.
⬆️ THIS ⬆️
Yep, the big money Dems are terrified of economic populism. In the words of Killer Milke “why did Reagan and Obama both go after Gadaffi?”
I bet it’s too late now. But yes perhaps. I have a feeling he will go with the Elon view of the world. Which means “freedom” but also conspiracies whenever they feel like it. Less regulations when you’re rich means less people can stop you from doing what you want. Works perfectly for all of them.
I think there is something to this, we need people who are left leaning but spend 95% of the time talking about other things and just sprinkle in a bit of politics. And they need to drop daily podcasts and create a cult following.
Mark Cuban ‘28. Traditional politicians are done. BTW, no one talks about the “church echo chamber.” They have the most successful “news” channel, AM radio, podcasts, TH-cam, male sports, X, FB (to an extent), most of the military…and churches. They’re playing chess, not checkers.
Does Trump get 2 Presidential Library’s?
I think he should
I am disinclined to support paid journalism. I took out multiple subscriptions in 2016. Maintained some, though not all, of them. But I don't feel well served by having done that. I have no plans to continue.
PSA needs to head up the creation of a network of left media. Merge together with BTC, Ben Dixon, Leeja Miller, etc. Air each others videos/casts. Stream together. Have different shows with slightly different views, but all on the left
Part of the problem with the listeria recalls originated with how much he messed with USDA and FDA.
Stavros Halkias, if you want to crown someone in the podcast world.
We need our own Heritage or Federalist Society.
I love how you guys are literally spreading misinformation about the Sequel. While claiming its disinformation.
Ya the quickest way is to Buttigieg there already made media framework, make a name for yourself by going having honest conversations and then start your own. That way you will potentially have viewership from both wings.
27:04 I’m in Scottsdale, AZ, my 84 yo neighbor ran out the day after the election to remove the Harris-Walz sticker on her car out of fear his supporters would vandalize her car. On the plus side, we did have Democratic volunteers visit us on the Sunday before. I had them (two 20-ish young girls) go over to visit my 84 yo neighbor, because she hadn’t been on the radar of the local Democratic Party for visits. She loved having those girls visit, ah invited them in, they showed her how to check if her vote had been received and tallied. GOTV should also focus on older voters because many are lonely and want to chat.
She was great on Brene Brown! Just not sure how many people heard it.
I cant believe im gonna be this guy.
Peanut the Squirrel bit ... Who? The animal control team that showed up. The owners were forced to sit outside the home while animal control (NY DEC) checked their house for animals that they didnt have explicit permission to keep. Bit of a Tiger King situation? However, Peanut had been in their care for years, was a baby squirrel orphan, and appeared by all counts to be well cared for by these individuals and would not have been okay released in the wild after being domesticated.
So, a bunch of humans walk in to catch the squirrel rather than letting the owner/handler pick him up. And the squirrel bit the animal control agent.
And then they used the "oh no rabies" rule to kill the squirrel and test it for rabies ... Which, obviously, negative ... It lives in a home with humans.
So its an unusual situation but Peanut was an amazing squirrel i had been watching for awhile and the Elon Musk sell of "this is government overreach" was easy to do. Even though IMO this is the petty tyranny of local government.
So ... Idk, please dont laugh off the Peanut story. It is tragic and since the GOP chose to make it a thing, wouldve been nice if Democrats could have shown compassion and agreed this is gross.
These guys need to leave Twitter.
Yes, yes, and HELL YES!!!!
Jon Stewart is more independent than left, but I think he should have done a Kamala interview. I know Walz did one and it went well.
Keep up the good work fellas. You are a very important source of information for me.
How about we get behind candidates like Bernie Sanders instead…
I put a Harris/Walz sign out regardless of being in deep red Tennessee. Within one week our cat was killed under mysterious circumstances followed shortly after by two flat tires in the same week.
😱 omg. I’m so sorry.
And to me... it's absolutely clear that only one side would be responsible for that kind of BS.
How many videos or clips did we see of young trumpies stealing Harris Walz signs? How many reports did we see of democratic supporters? Volunteers? Stealing Trump/Vance signs ? I didn't see one.
I'm so sorry 😢
Yah, sure. I'm sure you did it because you really just want to be a victim.
No fucking way 😂 sorry for your cat dude. Honestly gotta leverage them Tennessee gun laws
Do you really think that the trump era anti-intellectualism is going to hold after years of trump.
Not if we don't let it. Liberals are failing at information warfare. Every liberal needs to read the art of war and the federalist papers.
Stern is too detached from regular people. He is for Neo-lib boomers and gen Xers. I still think to his Hillary interview and getting more and more upset as it sounded like two rich people talking about how poor people don't do enough...
Please do put some chapter timestamps
People don’t like randos showing up at their house to talk about politics. It woke up my friend’s baby napping and ruined everyone’s day after. Another strategy pleaze
Well I guess Max is right that there is no part of the federal bureaucracy that can be laid off. Next he'll say that there no corruption in the Democratic party.
You clearly didn't hear JD Vance on these podcasts. He was a wicked good speaker and the most relatable person out of the 4 in the race. It is clear you are both talking about things you have no clue about.
The left is still attacking this fake Vance “couch fucker” straw man and have disrespected and underestimated the generational talent who will soon f*ck them over all over again.
WTF? 😂😂😂
Yes, the left needs many more hosts who look and sound somewhat stupid. It pulls in a larger audience.
Two things can be true: people are upset with their own financial situation and the Republican Party Line is not popular. People want money in their pocket, healthcare and a reliable retirement. If you want a Left podcaster, go with Trae Crowder.
Eminem is honestly the best answer for a future Democratic party. He comes from humble upbringings that everyone knows about, he had a movie made of him, he doesn't talk like a politician but when you listen to him, he is incredibly smart and speaks increadibly well, and he got that cool factor to bring in new voters.
The only issue is...would he even want to do it?
Max could have been talking my neighborhood, another Phoenix suburb full of big trucks, waving flags and rude signs/bumper stickers. This time I didn't want to be silenced by all the Trump signs in my neighborhood. I wanted other Democrats to know they had allies living amongst them, and I wanted the Trumpers to think twice, that hey maybe neighbors they though of as people were actual human and not the liberal elite to hate. The mom across the street from me put her sign up first. And I felt like, you know she's brave enough to do it, I'm going to do it too. I think it's harder sometimes for our high school kids though. My daughter was worried that her friends' parents might not drop them off for her Halloween party once they saw my Harris sign and my best friends daughter begged and begged for her to take hers down for fear of being called out at school.
The Rogan situation is actually a great fulcrum for this debate. Joe Rogan is a perennial swing voter who has a hodgepodge of views. In 2020, he supported Bernie. The result was that a minority of people on the left (yes, centrists AND demsocs) complained and said Bernie was platforming an “anti trans hack.” This is a culture problem on the left that needs to be reckoned with. They care more about disagreement than agreement.
My question is why is the number of mail in ballots returned 13% lower than in 2020. I'm talking in relative numbers, not absolute numbers. Obviously in 2020 there were more mail in ballots total, but this year the return rate was 13% less... USPS where are the ballots. Also, the return rate of mail in ballots for 2016 and 2020 is ~70%. This year it was 58%!! Where are our mail in ballots!!!??!?!
Mark Cuban was the only surrogate who broke through, and only barely. And if you’re going to put up a last-minute rebuttal, Fetterman isn’t enough
I've been seeing a bunch of people reposting that clip of Hasan talking about how the online media space is so dominated by right wing perspectives, but if you listen to Hasan he also says "you can't just podcast your way out of this, you need to meet people where they are and offer them things that will improve their material conditions." The DNC does not make an effort to reach out via online content creators, and they aren't willing to endorse left wing populist policies like those promoted by Bernie. They would rather soft pedal right wing neoliberal policies to moderate Republicans.
If they don't embrace the left wing of their base and offer people a clear contrast with the Republican party on policy, they won't win. They can't out-Republican the Republicans, especially not by being Diet Republicans.
Hasan is just a dumb frat guy let's be honest
One viable newspaper? Forget about the second biggest, and biggest in terms of print? The WSJ
Stop saying “this is scary…”
We can all see through this form of manipulation.
A fearful electorate is an easily manipulated electorate.
Yes! How do you think we got to where we are right now? Fear!
regular candidates cannot do what Trump does and it seems we are missing 8 million total participants compared to last year.
Disagree about "misinformation"; that facts do not matter in certain information/media ecosystems is the result of mis/dis-information becoming more ingrained than ever. Just because it's "built-in" now doesn't make it less a factor.
lmao 30:26 "isn't she the one who let the migrants in that are killing the police" -- per above comment.
As ridiculous as this subject may sound, I did hear that some young people voted for Trump because Harris did not go on the Joe Rogan podcast. Ridiculous.
I feel like we need a few highly charismatic people out there, like now, talking about how bad Trump is, being normal, letting people nationally get to know him/her and laying the groundwork now for sorting out who will do well. We need to invest in that very early now. If Kamala knew she was running and used her time as VP to visible and connect with people as a character, I feel things would have gone differently. Not that she did anything wrong, just the game has changed.
If there was a primary, she would have come in last... again.
The secret is having a message and why people should vote FOR you, instead of AGAINST the other guy.
What happened to “the home of the brave?” The Democrats want people to feel scared of Trump and if someone just has moxy and doesn’t feel afraid it makes the Dem messenger sound like an uptight lunatic.
Really funny to see PSA slowly become more right wing. Describing the Bulwark, a podcast that is openly ran by neoconservative republicans as the only one of the other left leaning podcasts in the top 20 is wild.
I think there were mainly two issues with this. Firstly, it's important to understand that the target demo for JRE and other like podcasts/content is men in the 18-29 and 30-39 voter demographic. I think on some level, Kamala simply didn't see these people are being a part of her coalition.
Secondly, the content of all of these shows can be broadly categorized into two categories. "Young men's issues" and "shit young men are interest in." I think Kamala and her team simply aren't very interested in many things that young men are interested in, and think that the only issue facing young men today is that they aren't deferential enough to young women.
I used to love Joe Rogan when he started his podcast, then he started drifting right as he got more money.
He started drifting right because your party is full of race-baiting, social radicals.
Harris lost because something happened with our mail-in ballot vote. This year the mail-in ballot return rate was 13% less than 2016 and 2020... USPS where are our mail-in ballots!!!??!?!
Retailization
I hate how condescending democrats can be, im capable of watching Joe Rogan and navigating the various biases and POV's involved.
Forget the naval gazing and nose picking! There is a huge threat on the horizon and we need to prepare for what's ahead!
20:40 why didn’t Kamala say any of these during the campaign???
Musk could offer me all his money to get on SpaceX never in my life would I do it
It doesn't really matter because at the end of the day you're on TH-cam. A platform Elon helped get funded and got rich off
You're going to use Uber and benefit from GPS and space launched those satellites
If you use Airbnb or stripe Elon benefits
Starlink or Tesla? Utilities use it's batteries or Uber use Teslas to get around
He's a venture capitalist and a good one.
you guys need to get Destiny, Jessiah or Im Really Important on the pod.
Trevor Noah. Work with him in building a podcast networks not necessarily.just political where engagement from youth can be drummed up. I think Dems have to be willing to go on some wackery though to break up the echo.
Trevor Noah is cringe and not funny. He literally run Daily show to the ground.
Howard stern 😂. Dude is a joke today.
The comments section is wild and a hard read. So many bad faith, untrue, one-sided finger pointing. It’s asinine.
You can't compare the two campaigns when only one had to consider facts when pushing their message. Also, no need for foreign interference when 98% of the republican party is MAGA and willing to say anything to not push back against the Trump campaign.
You guys should be on Rogan. Actually.
I sent over an email yesterday and am looking forward to connecting! Loved the recent episode, and I'm excited to explore the discussions you covered, as well as the topics from the previous episode. Thanks for opening up such thoughtful conversations-PM Artist Studio is all about fostering these kinds of dialogues with our artist community too. Looking forward to seeing where this goes!