🥊 Election Debate: EFF vs PA on Immigration, Land, Unemployment, Constitution, Corruption

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  • In the first ever episode of our new SMWX Election Debate series, we are joined by representatives of the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) and the Patriotic Alliance (PA) who debate around the question; why young people should vote for their parties.
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    In this debate, areas of focus include the immigration policies and debate, unemployment, the scrapping of the constitution, corruption & integrity, higher education and so much more.
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  • @stivo9730
    @stivo9730 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    EFF never disappoints! ❤️🖤💚

    • @manojkumarramdutt9752
      @manojkumarramdutt9752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ya dissapoont how when you part of the problem who probably stole as well as large majority Blacks are suffering...bunch of asssssss

    • @brandoncliffswarts5100
      @brandoncliffswarts5100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EFF never disappoints?
      Wasn't it disappointing to see old ANC rejects being parachuted to top positions in the EFF at the expense of the thousands of capable young people in the EFF?

  • @That_nigga
    @That_nigga 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Have been waiting for this debate, EFF show PA who is in charge
    Let’s separate boys from men and girls from women

  • @newdawncrypto5224
    @newdawncrypto5224 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    These debates are what we need in the run up to 2024 elections, thanks Sizwe for Usain Bolting it early in the year. Please run debates all the way through and tackle the Zama-Zama and Spazas owned by Somalis, Bangladesh, Ethiopians or even Pakistans also. These issues are very important for the economic and personal health of our people and country respectively. You should know by now that you have my respect my brother. Thank you.

  • @kagisolekalakala7437
    @kagisolekalakala7437 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Thank you Sizwe well balanced and good questions . The EFF representative articulated the EFF position quite well. PA should do better in terms of debates and contents …but we also encourage Kabelo and appreciate his view as a black young person

    • @tsheponcamane2018
      @tsheponcamane2018 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed, we encourage Kabelo to continue representing his views, but he was baptized with fire... He will improve with time😂
      Fighters are very clear

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EFF position whether well articulated or not is largely rejected by South Africans who are the only ones that can vote. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    • @mixi2090
      @mixi2090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      EFF should explain decolonised education. 6:10 This is a big issue. How do you decolonise STEM subjects?

    • @IonizedComa
      @IonizedComa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@mixi2090 apparently science is for colonizers

  • @martinmgidi2790
    @martinmgidi2790 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    My vote is with the EFF.

  • @solomonmakoala3720
    @solomonmakoala3720 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Big up !!!!!! Eff well represented viva Economic freedom Fighters i smell union building.

    • @kaizersuze9000
      @kaizersuze9000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The average edf supporters don't have SA papers and JJ only 10% strong 😂

    • @user-pi6fs7ue7r
      @user-pi6fs7ue7r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are just as bad as the anc what have they done nothing just exciting violence using the race card all the time all of the partys are making promises so go and vote make up your own mind

  • @ForceOfTheSouth
    @ForceOfTheSouth 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Fighter Nqobile Mhlongo represented us well. The PA young fellow still needs political Education and presentation skill.
    He is not convincing.
    Big Ups To Nqobile Fighter Nqobile Mhlongo 💪

  • @alignwiththeuniverse1516
    @alignwiththeuniverse1516 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Hai the EFF took this one, this Nqobile should be trusted with national governance even thr top six she is amazing. Well done Nqobile. PA needed to better prepare

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      my concern with the EFF is that malema seems to have very strong dictator personality, even calling for genocide.
      this lady was excellent - i'm sure they'll get a lot more votes if they have someone like her in charge

    • @afrimedia5897
      @afrimedia5897 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lm_b5080you clearly don't know EFF

    • @fussatshuta4316
      @fussatshuta4316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lm_b5080 Then don't vote for.. Go vote for MK or something

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@fussatshuta4316 you saying he will be a future dictator..?

    • @fussatshuta4316
      @fussatshuta4316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lm_b5080 Because he is not a dictator..🤷🏾‍♂️ He's just giving racists chest pains that's it!!

  • @mkmlombi969
    @mkmlombi969 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    EFF uNqobile thank you ❤️❤️✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

  • @thulanivictorkhoza6062
    @thulanivictorkhoza6062 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Nqobile💯🔥🔥🔥
    Vote EFF

  • @MrPoliteAgain
    @MrPoliteAgain 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    The EFF is well represented. Congratulations to this young woman. The EFF has my vote ❎ ❤🎉

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Foreigners cannot vote in SA in case no one told you.

    • @mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175
      @mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@shanaazcloete8531 you are a foriegner yourself mos

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mandlenkosicorneliasdlamin7175exactly cape Malay slave

    • @yangankosana1819
      @yangankosana1819 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shanaazcloete8531ungumnqundu kwwedini😂

    • @patrickfidrichkibamba3242
      @patrickfidrichkibamba3242 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What a hatred of Black Foreigners.
      But themselves, they are also Black.
      What a shame!

  • @shuduramaite208
    @shuduramaite208 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    One thing about the EFF is that they will never disappoint when it comes to public representatives either for interviews or debates. Always on point. Their political education is on another level.

  • @gloirebeya5127
    @gloirebeya5127 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    This woman is very brilliant. I'm so proud of you cc.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She talks rubbish.

    • @donellechirose6500
      @donellechirose6500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you listen closely that's facts.

    • @user-xo8fr7er8y
      @user-xo8fr7er8y 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@shanaazcloete8531you spew kak

  • @JoMbangasta
    @JoMbangasta 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Well done Commissar Nqobile 🙌🏾❤️🖤, you represented us well‼️

  • @nkosingiphiledlamini5278
    @nkosingiphiledlamini5278 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    EFF before I can even watch

  • @profdumisanindlovu-fl3wn
    @profdumisanindlovu-fl3wn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Well done young lady talk sense , I agree with your idea EFF

  • @libumbelufundo6118
    @libumbelufundo6118 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I love the idea of pushing the youth to pursue technical qualifications and developing specialised industrial zones. They’ll probably increase tariffs on imported products we can produce here. I like the structure of the EFF.

  • @bonganimbelekana3029
    @bonganimbelekana3029 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    EFF articulating is well researched. Superior logic always prevail ❤ 2024 is our 1994. We are taking the CIC, Julius Malema to the Union Buildings.

  • @multiartsalliance7791
    @multiartsalliance7791 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    EFF sound to have facts and clear goals.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

    • @user-kb1tf6di5z
      @user-kb1tf6di5z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's why i will vote for them ❤❤

  • @tebogoleballo9599
    @tebogoleballo9599 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Well articulated Nqobi if is there anything to vote EFF it should be thier stance of free quality education and a loving and caring parents should join thier children in voting EFF❤

  • @Dannymcflirt
    @Dannymcflirt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Thatha eff thatha! Very good points from the sister in Red

  • @valukufanduli6531
    @valukufanduli6531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    That is Nqobile for EFF superior logic of note

  • @Sthabi_Alonzo
    @Sthabi_Alonzo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Sizwe, you are a legend in the making!! This was brilliant.

  • @tebogojoychoane2779
    @tebogojoychoane2779 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Awa Banna, where did you get I'm speechless? This guy was funny, I'm glad my vote goes to the EFF. EFF never disappoints...

  • @xolanizibi846
    @xolanizibi846 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Whawu Nqobile i a superb lady and have facts

  • @jacklenge531
    @jacklenge531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    My brother please vote with yr father it a best party ever we ll enjoy our economic freedom in our life time

  • @solomonmakoala3720
    @solomonmakoala3720 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Nqobile is eating these young PA member for lunch. She is leading these debate. The young man can't articulate the PAs policies properly that is if they have any

  • @refilweportiasefotlhelo82
    @refilweportiasefotlhelo82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Eff has my vote ❤

  • @jackkiewiet3707
    @jackkiewiet3707 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Watching from Namibia 🇳🇦....the lady clearly out debate this young man.💯

    • @material_dondada
      @material_dondada 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obviously your ears and expectations are not for South Africa, they are for you as a foreigner. She was killed early

    • @stephneesnyders8821
      @stephneesnyders8821 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      actually she did not, EFF is corrpt and subscripe to policies that failed in Venezuella. EFF is corrupt and stealling from the elderly. Malema enriched himself by a mafia that is cirrupt. Minimum wage was created by this red barrets that belong to the frenchman. EFF is not selfmade like Gayton unlike VBS criminals. EFF is foreigners supporters and funding their schoolfees

  • @mbonambiphakamani5257
    @mbonambiphakamani5257 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    Nqobile mopping the floor with entire PA at the same time. EFF is the only vehicle which will deliver a meaningful change. 2024 is our 1994.

    • @spha325
      @spha325 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Eff is going to start a state owned bank 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and do to it what Flyd did to VBS 😅

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Only a foreigner will say this.

    • @mduduzibbembe7242
      @mduduzibbembe7242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In your dreams 😅😅😅

    • @fussatshuta4316
      @fussatshuta4316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@spha325VBS was destroyed to silence EFF but they failed😂 EFF forever❤✊🏾

  • @molahlehisolomonmoholo5521
    @molahlehisolomonmoholo5521 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    We are witnessing GBV on our screens, this Kabelo guy from PA was parallized even Sizwe couldn't rescue him , Nqobile walked all over him. EFF is the Future!!

  • @user-ww9lr8ci4j
    @user-ww9lr8ci4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    ❤❤EFF has shown times without numbers that it's here to cater us 🎉🎉

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You cannot be a south african. 🤣

    • @kaizersuze9000
      @kaizersuze9000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dish you with kfc and R120 😅

    • @janomesteve3129
      @janomesteve3129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @fussatshuta4316
      @fussatshuta4316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@shanaazcloete8531 Mxm you know nothing about South Africa

  • @yangazulu7466
    @yangazulu7466 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Thank u Sizwe nyana kaBhuti Dali wow uyatshisa kengoku, Nqobile well done Sisi sizofunda ngenkani.

  • @TheERNESTUDIO
    @TheERNESTUDIO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    The EFF has a plan, which is already underway, EFF has my vote.

    • @spha325
      @spha325 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      You mean opening the borders is a plan 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @solomzimbalo5428
      @solomzimbalo5428 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@spha325they're actually inviting unimaginable problems for us, accepting undocumented foreigners in this country is the EFf's worst posture in can ever take.

    • @spha325
      @spha325 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@solomzimbalo5428 eff and anc are on a same WhatsApp group both useless for this country. I feel sorry for the students who will vote eff and become unemployed after varsity while foreigners are working in their fields.

    • @silaskhalishwayo
      @silaskhalishwayo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@spha325 dakiwe wena...eff has never been in power anc is similar to apartheid government.

    • @jo-d-lo38
      @jo-d-lo38 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't worry, we'll deal with the illegals ourselves.
      We won't be held ransom by the EFF.
      African countries don't allow illegal immigration into their countries.
      Only here in SA.

  • @SeoFam01
    @SeoFam01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I don’t know how Sizwe could keep a straight face when that PA chap was speaking 😂.
    “We know how to remove the red tape”.
    Jah neh

  • @obakengsethaiso8083
    @obakengsethaiso8083 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    EFF is well represented❤❤❤❤dis kabelo guy need to learn from here

  • @user-mt3fm9hq9l
    @user-mt3fm9hq9l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    EFF won❤

  • @thabaninjokwe3439
    @thabaninjokwe3439 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    THE EFF BROUGHT SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTOOD THE PARTY STANCE AND MADE SURE SHE DELIVERED. THE PA DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does it matter, SANS are not for open borders, finish and klaar.!!!

    • @user-kb1tf6di5z
      @user-kb1tf6di5z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They always bring smart people

    • @patrickfidrichkibamba3242
      @patrickfidrichkibamba3242 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's a Harper Hammer spy, and he still has a colon mentality.

  • @siyabongamazibuko7368
    @siyabongamazibuko7368 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    We need the winner of this round to face the winner of the next round, who's next.
    EFF vs Whoever (one by one)

    • @jaykin6970
      @jaykin6970 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂❤

    • @mmelimkhungo5860
      @mmelimkhungo5860 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😅😅😂❤!!!​@@jaykin6970

    • @JoMbangasta
      @JoMbangasta 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂😂😂

    • @petrusmathe5531
      @petrusmathe5531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 U killed me

    • @lesegombendana6002
      @lesegombendana6002 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂

  • @Jamie-cz2xu
    @Jamie-cz2xu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Now lets have Cyril and John and Julius and Nhlamulo. And lets get SABC involved and broadcast it on radio and all the channels. Lets make it official. A proper debate for the citizens with a translator for english zulu and xhosa so everyone voting can understand. And play it a few times a month so as many people who need to hear it can hear it.

    • @providetriggersforevolutio3748
      @providetriggersforevolutio3748 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Superb idea!

    • @internsphone
      @internsphone 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love it

    • @martinmgidi2790
      @martinmgidi2790 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂Cyril won't show up.

    • @LuyoloMkhosi-tf6hu
      @LuyoloMkhosi-tf6hu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cyril is not allowed to be on debates.. Oppenheimers will never allow to happen..

    • @molemorobie
      @molemorobie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which one is Nhlamulo?

  • @user-ih2zc3yh9w
    @user-ih2zc3yh9w 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    EFF you have my vote

    • @patrickthorp3816
      @patrickthorp3816 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then you need an education ...

    • @janomesteve3129
      @janomesteve3129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are part of the foreigners

    • @vaeterua
      @vaeterua หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@patrickthorp3816You should comeup factual and justifying sentiment not ridiculous accusations!!What part is illiterate in this discourses ??

  • @ZulumanNdodana
    @ZulumanNdodana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This lady in Red is well informed.
    the yoing man needs to up his knowledge game

    • @YT-xk5jl
      @YT-xk5jl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She’s EFF

  • @njabulodihlohonolo-ps6vk
    @njabulodihlohonolo-ps6vk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love this❤ this should be done more often

  • @rontosmorake4447
    @rontosmorake4447 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    please bring the best of the best the lady of EFF needs a Match, we need people who know their story, this PA guy keeps on repeating things we need a robust debate. Blow by blow

  • @tloujonasngoetjana712
    @tloujonasngoetjana712 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    The lady is representing EFF very well, she is knowledgeable and eloquent

    • @SkinnyPsycho0
      @SkinnyPsycho0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Uyamazi umcimbi losisi. I respect.

  • @miehleketokwinika6060
    @miehleketokwinika6060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The brother is completely lost, we need him in the EFF, he can make the numbers, i like his confidence though. Thank You Professor Sizwe for this show.🎉

  • @mhlengingcobo-zb9pu
    @mhlengingcobo-zb9pu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Eff is well represented 🎉 i will vote eff

  • @justicerampedi1609
    @justicerampedi1609 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Eff is doing well whn coming 2 talkz or dibate even the action ❤

  • @ntsikeleloklaas3610
    @ntsikeleloklaas3610 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Superior logic always win, the "Mbokodo" represented us very well forward EFF forward 🤝

  • @hanyanahanyana8942
    @hanyanahanyana8942 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This lady is abuse this boy
    In future bring the pA President verses this smart lady salute madamq

  • @ronaldwisemankekane2666
    @ronaldwisemankekane2666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Political education is very important, this PA guy should go back n educate himself,,, shout out to EFF lady very clear❤❤

    • @thabo1253
      @thabo1253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its true

    • @patrickfidrichkibamba3242
      @patrickfidrichkibamba3242 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's a Harper Hammer spy, and he still has a colon mentality.

  • @noriamamabolo1488
    @noriamamabolo1488 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    PA must do their research, home work properly.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      PA was spot on where south Africans are concerned. we want that big wall.

    • @kgomotsomfisa7038
      @kgomotsomfisa7038 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@shanaazcloete8531then what will happen after Building wall? You still be landless, you'll still not own the banks, mines, means of production, etc.

  • @khonzani1870
    @khonzani1870 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    PA can’t stand EFF, this was one way traffic.

  • @fin2-em2mf
    @fin2-em2mf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Articulation is very important in politics....EFF wins this debate...

  • @michaelsenior5048
    @michaelsenior5048 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The EFF is like a college of higher learning for every African, speaking about values and attitudes.

  • @misterkaren
    @misterkaren 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    The military service thing is bat shit insane 😂

    • @jaykin6970
      @jaykin6970 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Education is offered at various levels; skills training and academic - imagine such huge responsibility for the military. Clearly they don't know what they are talking about and it simply would be chaotic, let alone impractical.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is even more insane is open borders for a country that has the highest unemployment rate in the world. 🤣🤣🤣 Anyway EFF will never win an election.

    • @TopGooner-yr9tc
      @TopGooner-yr9tc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bruv thought was only one😂, like Korea? Like what's my guy on about

    • @tela6589
      @tela6589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂😂😂

    • @mankgasejostar3107
      @mankgasejostar3107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What did u expect from the Bandit⁉️🤦‍♂️ The guy has no respect for constitution.

  • @jacklenge531
    @jacklenge531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Eow EFF is the best

  • @MpenduloMpesh-sf7ww
    @MpenduloMpesh-sf7ww 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    My vote go to EFF ❤❤

  • @matlou198
    @matlou198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Eff my home eff my life viva cc Nqobile I'm not regret joining eff

  • @grantthabo5337
    @grantthabo5337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I'm 100% convinced that there's no any other political partie that can stand the EFF in any debate or public participation of any sort EFF IS THE ONLY ANSWER TO SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦 2024 IS OUR 1994.

    • @patrickthorp3816
      @patrickthorp3816 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Voters of EFF= People who haven't read a history book. Try and find ONE example in history where policies similar to their succeed in developing a modern thriving economy and society. Answer: not one. All you fools are voting for a Venezuela, Zimbabwe vol 2.0.

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@patrickthorp3816they are under sanctions stupid.

    • @Thabang-st4bw
      @Thabang-st4bw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patrickthorp3816 china, scandinavian and nordic countries.
      You consume a lot of right wing propaganda I see. What history books have you read. You do know there are failed states that are capitalist right?
      Zim has been under sanctions
      Venezuela has been under sanctions

    • @grantthabo5337
      @grantthabo5337 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @patrickthorp3816 there's no need for u to call others fools you believe in what you believe in and you vote for your favorite political party that's it no need for you to be petty and call others fools because you are now just displaying the highest level of lack of engagement on issues, this is not about racism or who is more superior than the other, if you like DA , PA it's your democratic choice but just don't insult those who share a different view from yours .

    • @digital-artz
      @digital-artz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@grantthabo5337 my fighter, don’t even waste your breathe arguing with the Zionists.. we have a plan for them when we win the election… let’s vote fir eff my fighter

  • @BBSF88
    @BBSF88 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    5:55 I can tell you right now, our EFF rep Nqobile has closed this debate before it even began!
    And just like I thought, they are talking about conscription. PA is backwards. 7:30

  • @fussatshuta4316
    @fussatshuta4316 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm going to vote for EFF❤👌🏾

  • @eskaay6178
    @eskaay6178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It was a easy one for the EFF, Well informed leader. We need a debate between the EFF and th DA

  • @TshepangMagudulela
    @TshepangMagudulela 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is poor for the PA
    The points they are banking on is the issue of foriengers and the point of the of how great Gayton is. This party is limited to those two things. If you are a voter which is a critical thinker you'd know that South Africa is to complex to vote for based on a single person and one issue.

  • @enockmalopemaila7298
    @enockmalopemaila7298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    PA promise us nothing solid in building, transforming our country. EFF is Future to better life❤💚🖤

  • @tsietsijohannes5832
    @tsietsijohannes5832 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Amapandidi gave this guy chest pains

  • @roygilbert7294
    @roygilbert7294 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Am telling you guys Eff has 1000% better plan for SA youths and women.....if you don't give eff a chance then don't blame no-one.....

    • @thabangtladi8057
      @thabangtladi8057 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      better plan for African nations to remain in SA for good and not go back to their own hopeless zoo called countries and fix them

    • @User47HD
      @User47HD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know, they seem to have communist traits and nothing good comes from communism.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ANC is bad enough, to suggest EFF is suicide. Nah, we South Africans are wiser than you think, we can detect pie in the sky plans .

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thabangtladi8057so it's okay for whites and Indians to stay for good hey.😂😂

  • @siyabongamazibuko7368
    @siyabongamazibuko7368 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    So far 10min in , EFF is clear.
    EFF 1 : PA 0

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You would have that view if you a foreigner.

    • @CraigHetheringsting
      @CraigHetheringsting 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      After 50 mins the PA guy just seems even less convincing. His closing comment was "im speechless", lol fucking hell

  • @windywindy221
    @windywindy221 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    😂😂😂😂 'we are going to bring God in school'

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More realistic than EFF nonsense. Free this, free that as if money grows on trees. EFF supporters are largely confused about EFF land plans, because one day its this and another day its that. You foreigners can be convinced by EFF nonsense but we not.

    • @levikalombo1630
      @levikalombo1630 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm dead. This township boy is crazy.

  • @nthabit1177
    @nthabit1177 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Is the PA saying that EVERY young person will be OBLIGATED to military service after high school? EVERY? Without option? That is highly a limitation of our right to self-determination. Their policy is itself unconstitutional.

    • @realnews8075
      @realnews8075 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are typing like a Dom kop....we all know not everyone is going to varsity or will get a job...but we know they will have an option which is guaranteed work and skills training in the sa military you fom kop

    • @mondentleko8735
      @mondentleko8735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Look at the benefits also not only the sacrifice to serve in the military

    • @thabisokekana3704
      @thabisokekana3704 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You want the freedom to galavant and be unruly ?

    • @nthabit1177
      @nthabit1177 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mondentleko8735 Maybe let's discuss that because it was my initial question, what are the benefits? What will make a person more employable in corporate SA as a result of a year's service in military?

    • @nthabit1177
      @nthabit1177 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thabisokekana3704 maybe you sir. I want the freedom to determine how I establish myself and gain skill relevant to my objectives. I also want to the freedom of choice.

  • @ronaldmamaru4242
    @ronaldmamaru4242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The EFF commizar have clear point ❤❤

  • @innocentc.3521
    @innocentc.3521 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "I only debate my equals, all others I teach," John Henrik Clarke. Viva EFF!!

  • @sb456
    @sb456 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The PA dude said alot of things and I didn’t even hear a single word. That eff lady was clear and pure

  • @afrimedia5897
    @afrimedia5897 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I'm gonna vote EFF🤞 they won my heart

    • @user-kb1tf6di5z
      @user-kb1tf6di5z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do not say I say we cause we cause am going to vote for EFF

  • @bernicesmith3093
    @bernicesmith3093 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Salute Kabelo you have nailed it. You have represented the Patriotic Alliance very well ✊️💚💚💚💚💚💚💚🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @WILLIAMCHALAKA
    @WILLIAMCHALAKA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I GO FOR PA

    • @siyabongamazibuko7368
      @siyabongamazibuko7368 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol our leader is cleaning you up yong 27:44

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@siyabongamazibuko7368 Your leader speaks for foreigners, Kabelo speaks for South Africans and as we the only ones that can vote Kabelo wins.

    • @mthembenihlopheericnarson2045
      @mthembenihlopheericnarson2045 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fool​@@shanaazcloete8531

    • @roskydk7174
      @roskydk7174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      PA only talks foreigners. Nothing else. Running the state is more than closing borders.

  • @soldierlebea965
    @soldierlebea965 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    All 15 members of my family we are going to vote for EFF,2024 is our 1994

  • @XolaniWana
    @XolaniWana 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The PA is 10 years old but has never been in an election conference to test their democracy. EFF elects its leaders at conferences and the policies and resolution of the party are made by the members through conferences, they are not forced/imposed by self appointed "leaders".

  • @tshwareloalbertmatlala1388
    @tshwareloalbertmatlala1388 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I am very amazed by the stunt where he says they want to attract foreign investment mean while they are against everything foreign

    • @lindilelubabalozulu8476
      @lindilelubabalozulu8476 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂😂😂 no superior logic there

    • @YT-xk5jl
      @YT-xk5jl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Foreign = African when it suits them and the same foreign = Europeans and North Americans when it suits them. So to them “foreign” has different meanings depending on the context.

  • @siphiwembiyela3886
    @siphiwembiyela3886 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Eff are good debaters and their mandate is clear but when it comes to their foreign policy on immigration that will never find solace with south africans. And it's a fallacy that foreigners don't take jobs because people on the ground with low skills they see that what used to be their employ is now occupied by foreigners hence the private sector and the liberals whom are wmc advocate for open border policy. Malema on JJ tabane show said that he'll never fight with a Zimbabwean for a security job and by that statement he conceded that foreigners are employed over SA's.

    • @Happy_HourZA
      @Happy_HourZA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I feel he is just ahead of Most people when it comes to this matter, i honestly don't think he is wrong for it and it will soon make sense sooner than later ... The issue of foreign policy is a long story and given the right platform i would break it down for you ... But i get wher he is coming from and I agree with him to a certain degree, Not to say that we don't have an immigration problem here but it's more internal than anything and closing the borders is definitely not a solution.

    • @jaykin6970
      @jaykin6970 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Besides, people who are shortsighted won't understand the long term objective of this point, people, yes, are traumatized by level of crimes of which 'foreign Africans' finds themselves implicated in, however dealing with them in this manner is like treating the symptoms rather and that does not guarantee a solution. In fact, when we fight one another as neighbours, we give an easy opportunity for an intruder to do as he pleases because we won't be looking for each other!!!

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Happy_HourZA he is wrong in terms of timing. No matter how good the idea may be, but Bad timing makes the whole idea bad. You can not allow the influx of poor immigrants in a country of high level of unemployment such as South Africa.

    • @YT-xk5jl
      @YT-xk5jl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The EFF is very clear. The aim is to create jobs and to get people to create jobs. Why don’t the PA go after the employers? Can’t you see that EFFs focus is on these very employers? The ones who pay Zimbabweans chips or next to nothing when they hire them. What is so hard to understand about that? This exploitation starts with the exploiters who are doing the hiring and are often supported and sustained by “white monopoly capital”. Why don’t South Africans want to aim higher than a common security guard?

    • @Qotha
      @Qotha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@YT-xk5jl the aim is to create jobs for who, for immigrants?Saying South Africans should aim higher than security jobs is just a rhetoric none practical. Not everyone will be a doctor or engeneer. Some are graduates but work as security because that is the only job available at the moment. Must they sit and starve while a security job is available because they want fency jobs that are unavailable.

  • @CalvinMaluleke-ry3rf
    @CalvinMaluleke-ry3rf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Only EFF

  • @RufusMafa
    @RufusMafa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Sizwe you are doing a great job boy. May the lord our saviour protect you and your family.

  • @zamokuhlemasondo
    @zamokuhlemasondo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We are not poor just poorly managed, great point from the DSG of the Patriotic Alliance Youth League #Abahambe

  • @khonzani1870
    @khonzani1870 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    One thing about EFF it is full of brilliant young people, lots of thinking and grinding has been done.
    One feels safe with most of these young people, Ofcoz there’s is still room for error and for them to learn through experience

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EFF is full of pie in the sky, that's why they cannot even win municipalities, they have to ride on getting positions via trade - offs with the ANC. PA has won a municipality with its less than 1% vote. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ZolaMhlabane-ss8bq
      @ZolaMhlabane-ss8bq 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% correct.

  • @user-ub8jp6md8u
    @user-ub8jp6md8u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This PA guy is in mature with his analysis, EFF is the future of South Africa either people like it or not

  • @alimahommed7639
    @alimahommed7639 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The moment eff member talks, they attracts more voters, they talk sense. I love eff

  • @khwezimemela1730
    @khwezimemela1730 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fighter Nqobile is on point like an arrow. Rise EFF ✊

  • @anathimduduma6534
    @anathimduduma6534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can't wait to see DA and ANC debate

  • @zanelemathebula6453
    @zanelemathebula6453 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Although this view of the youth and for the youth is appreciated, the debate was very uninspiring. I don't feel like the guys were well prepared and actually articulated the solutions they believe in well, more so the representative from the PA. Nonetheless, I am looking forward to the next round of engagements.

    • @oleratomokoka7955
      @oleratomokoka7955 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think this interview is a great representation of the political landscape of South Africa. More times than not, speakers just throw keywords with no background knowledge being explained or explored.
      They also spoke really quickly. I don't know if that was due to the time constraints or because they had to go through all their keywords. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
      Many comments here celebrate the EFF speaker for putting a "coherent" argument. But in my opinion, it is merely a win by default. The other guy barely showed up. Many holes showed up in both their arguments, as well as a clear lack of depth.
      To conclude, the idea is great. The future speakers should however, try to present themselves better. One recommendation is to include viewer opinions in the debate, via live chat.

    • @zanelemathebula6453
      @zanelemathebula6453 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@oleratomokoka7955 You've summed it up very nicely.

  • @siyabongamazibuko7368
    @siyabongamazibuko7368 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I like this Kabelo guy, I can't wait for him to channel his superior logic and join the EFF.

    • @YT-xk5jl
      @YT-xk5jl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What superior logic? He must just remain in the PA with that logic of his, which is anything but superior

    • @MrLechesa
      @MrLechesa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@YT-xk5jl That Kabelo guy's thinking is very weak🤣 He doent qualify for even Our Student Command...

    • @magadexaba6108
      @magadexaba6108 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrLechesa Sometimes it comes down to fluency. His thinking may be great but if he struggles to express his thoughts it may make him look/sound weak.

    • @MrLechesa
      @MrLechesa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@magadexaba6108 That's the thing. . . It's his thinking that's weak. We don't have a problem with fluency. English is not our mother tongue. The EFF lady is not necessarily that fluent either. But her points are well prepared.
      Mfethu yena on the other side because the points he's trying to make are weak it makes his delivery sound even weaker.

    • @shanaazcloete8531
      @shanaazcloete8531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YT-xk5jl Superior Logic of EFF is only bought by foreigners.

  • @UNITEDAFRICANS-jm6rp
    @UNITEDAFRICANS-jm6rp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    VIVA VIA EFF VIVA VIVA!!!! VIVA HON.. MALEMA FOR PRESIDENT VIVA VIVA.

  • @khanyisafikilexayiya1369
    @khanyisafikilexayiya1369 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    I'm an EFF Member but I do find the foreign policy out of touch with what South Africans are experiencing. We live in a country where basically all low skill jobs have been dominated by foreigners. Probably 2.4Million jobs that would be supporting poor black households are going to legal but mostly illegal foreigners (let's be real) who don't pay tax and contribute to our struggling economy.

    • @MrPoliteAgain
      @MrPoliteAgain 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      What about decolonisation you don't understand? You need to read to understand and you'll know why it's so important that we advocate for a boarder-less africa. This is in full motion, countries in Africa are now pushing for boarders to be scrapped in Africa. The EFF has a giraffe-view, people will understand later.

    • @bonginkosintuli4560
      @bonginkosintuli4560 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      there are 2.5 million documented foreigners and about 5 million undocumented foreigners. So about 7.5 million jobs could have helped our poor black households...

    • @langashongwe4532
      @langashongwe4532 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ​@@MrPoliteAgain argh man.. we can unite without burdening othe ppls countries

    • @petrusmathe5531
      @petrusmathe5531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The problem with us black people, we hate each other that alone says a lot about us, how many illegal white immigrants in SA? How many positions are occupied by them? This people are earning a lot here in SA u guys are not saying anything because they are whites!! U blame a black men that could be one of your relatives for merely earning less than R3000. Shame on us black African people

    • @siphiwembiyela3886
      @siphiwembiyela3886 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@MrPoliteAgain until the whole continent of afrika has strong economies bordeless afrika will only burden those few countries that are economically sound hence for now it's a big no.

  • @simaniwa1021
    @simaniwa1021 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Siz'we need more of these debates, Well Done Bro, I enjoyed this.

  • @siyabongamazibuko7368
    @siyabongamazibuko7368 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Shame this was not a fair debate...the EFF has been clear in painting a viable picture. Furthermore, they have track record unlike the PA.
    Beautiful initiative by the SMWX team.
    Viva EFF❤

  • @zamokuhlethusi2964
    @zamokuhlethusi2964 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Phenomenal content as usual form the SMWX team, we desperately need to hear these political parties make their case to South Africans while their policy offerings are scrutinised with a fine-toothed comb.

    • @oleratomokoka7955
      @oleratomokoka7955 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like Sizwe held back on some of his criticism

  • @afro_giraffe
    @afro_giraffe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I would love to listen to a debate between two parties from the same side of the political spectrum. Maybe two parties that are in the multiple party charter.

  • @KazieD
    @KazieD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Sizwe, you should've brought ActionSA youth candidate mntase. What does the EFF candidate mean that there are no Jobs in SA when the hotels, Petrol stations, Restaurants are packed with foreigners? If there were no jobs or opportunities, foreign nationals would not be flocking to South Africa. Come to Cape Town and you will see what I mean.

    • @penekedirero4636
      @penekedirero4636 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She hasn't been to Cape Town. She bilieves what she's being fed mlby Malema. While at it he should also invite Rise Mzansi which I think he's working at it.

    • @MrLechesa
      @MrLechesa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      If there were jobs the unemployment rate wouldn't be as high as it is now would it?
      African Foreign Nationals only make up less than 3% of the South African population (go read the 2022 census report in detail).
      The narrative that they are taking jobs is not supported by science because even if they were to be deported, we will still sit with an extremely high unemployment rate.
      There's just over 1million Zimbabweans in the entire SA. We have over 14million Unemployed South African Youth.

    • @KazieD
      @KazieD 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrLechesa I am referring to Cape Town where I am situated, I cant speak for the rest of the country. At this point in time, corporates should not even be considering employing foreigners for low skilled work but rather reserve those for South Africans. I live in Cape Town so this is a lived experience and not something on paper I read somewhere.

    • @sanelemjwara7771
      @sanelemjwara7771 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MrLechesayou are talking absolute crap. Only 1 million Zimbabweans?😂😂😂

    • @MrLechesa
      @MrLechesa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sanelemjwara7771 Yep!! You can read it up for yourself. That's precisely what a census is for remember? Or you've counted them yourself?

  • @marakamabaso7450
    @marakamabaso7450 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The intellectual level is unmatched

  • @mpilompanza9101
    @mpilompanza9101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for bringing these debates. Lots of questions were answered. I just wish that all parties can join so that we can make better decisions when voting

  • @wazha1000
    @wazha1000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    900 000 matriculants cant all get into tertiary institutions. In fact its not wise to populate yourself with one type of person. Some of them will definitely benefit from hands on training proposed by conscription in the military

    • @YT-xk5jl
      @YT-xk5jl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And why can’t they? I guess you would have no clue. It seems impossible to you because you have never envisioned it. About your military conscription, would these people learn to use guns and other military weapons? What happens when they go outta line? Are they arrested? What happens to those who don’t want to partake in military service? Do they get arrested too? I can tell you all kinds of things that could go wrong with military conscription and one that seems forced at that without the presence of ongoing war but I’ll let you answer these questions first

    • @poeletsowillmorenambo1346
      @poeletsowillmorenambo1346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are asking too much from PA members. You just heard from the level of reasoning during the debate that they cannot think beyond immigrants. He/she will not answer you@@YT-xk5jl

    • @baobabmbotho3339
      @baobabmbotho3339 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They can all be placed. We need to begin to learn from the lessons of Covid era. It is high time we also adopt the e-distance learning with encouraged student accommodation areas linked to institutions such as UNISA and other who have distance e-learning approach. We also need to advocate for the enhancement of the curriculum of our TVETs to align with technology and scope of the economic sense we hold. The stigmatization of TVETs also must be dealt with to encourage others to pursue colleges and TVETs = colleges of TVETs and Higher Education Colleges system.