Attack on Titan's Ending is a NIGHTMARE..
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A moment of silence for all the horses, characters, potato girls and Attack on Titan fans that didn't make it to the end.
Dude I literally see you everywhere😂 I saw you on so many John wick TH-cam shorts yesterday bruh
Bro's literally everywhere, name checks out
why? if they didn't get to see this steaming pile of garbage they are lucky
@wyndellleethespammer4497 You’re right, not related to AOT, but one of my biggest fears is not seeing the end of One Piece *knocks on wood*
Aot sucks it promotes terrorism and military aggression
Main characters are fighting in a war started by their own country(Eldia and Marley never signed a treaty, Eldia’s king just ran away to some island)
Main characters literally start a military coup on the government
Main protagonist (who is portrayed heroically as doing things for his friends) attacks the entire world and is thanked by his former friend(who is portrayed heroically)for his aggression and genocide
This story started because Ymir let the pigs loose.
Seriously this all could’ve been avoided if they just killed the kid outright
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No it's start it with a fucking king of he wasn't a fucking devil and wasn't a night mare for his people if he was more forgiveing to a child and collect the dam pigs instead of going after a dam child
@@dreadmonger7042 Ymir should’ve folded the King when she got those powers.
if the tree was already there, it means the cycle has already once happened and it will happen again forever and ever, because war never truly ends
It seems like anime only watchers havent been anywhere near as negative about the ending as manga readers so far
I honestly think isayama fucked up somewhere down the road where he just decided to change the ending to be less controversial than what he originally planned for the ending to be. This is quite plausible and actually eluded to with the retcons, red herrings, and plot holes within the manga and season 4. To be upset is very understandable. It is what it is and we got the ending we got. And with that we must take what we can from this story. Not a happy unrealistic fantasy. Not a horrific villian domination. But an unsatisfying itch of grounded reality. We must keep moving forward. In a world where conflict is inevitable. To face tragedy with strength, to love and cherish the people we have, and to fight for a better outcome. Ultimately (plot holes aside) that is what this story means based on the ending, and that's as beautiful as it can get.
@@mystery785 I think you are the first person I have seen that said the author f*cked up but also put things into a good perspective. There are a few people I have seen saying that they are disgusted with Isayama retconning parts of the story and saying that they hope for him to never pick up a pen again and stuff like that. I am an anime only but I did not find the author reconning or changing the story as much of a bad thing as some others. And maybe he did change the ending to be less controversial(although the current ending where 80% of the world gets crushed is also going to have plenty of controversy on its own). Also I don’t really find Isayama changing the ending to be a big deal if I am going to be honest, he had been working on AOT for so many years and although he changed parts of the story over time, whether because he wanted to or because of controversial parts, I think it was bound to happen. People change how they feel about certain things and he had been working on AOT for so long with a lot of the story planned out from the beginning. I just don’t blame him for changing things and at the end of the day a lot of the stuff you said is true. AOT was not meant to have a happy ending, and we didn’t get a great or perfect ending. Some people are saying that the ending ruined the whole show for them so idk how bad it was for them but for me personally, I did find the ending satisfying, and it still ties in with AOT and it’s story, some parts of how it tied in were a bit odd, like idk if Isayama could have came up with a better reason than love being the thing that was the reason why Mikasa killing Eren would be what stopped the curse of Ymir(which I still think makes enough sense to be a good way for the curse to end) but either way, I am happy enough about the ending to thank Isayama for AOT.
People can say that is because I am an anime only if they want, but at the end of the day we all are able to experience AOT as well as any other anime or shows in the ways that we want. I prefer watching it as an anime, others might prefer reading it as a manga, and some are going to probably prefer both, but I don’t think we should allow the way we experience AOT to separate us into groups of who liked a part like the ending the least and who liked it the most. Maybe the vocal minorities of people that read the manga are truly all saying worse things than the vocal minority of everyone that only watched the anime, but I just prefer watching anime over reading manga, the story as well as the meaning of AOT are going to be pretty much the same(I know that the convo between Eren and Armin was changed from the manga to the anime and maybe some other smaller things). Another thing people say a lot is that manga onlys scared us by making anime onlys think that the ending was going to be bad. And while yes, the spreading of people thinking did obviously start to generate from the manga, I feel like there were probably only a few people that read the manga that started saying stuff about the ending and the internet did it’s thing and later on stuff about the ending being bad was spread far and wide to the point that it worried anime onlys and stuff like that. The thing is though that there are probably manga readers that, when reading the manga, thought that the ending was fine or maybe even liked it, just like how there are going to be people that are anime onlys that probably hate the ending. My point is that we are all going to have a mix of feelings between each individual and the medium we experience AOT in does not and should not act as a something that seperates us.
@biggamer7245 I believe last minute changes were made which cause the plot holes that are criticed by a bit of people, that's really the only thing that bothered me. I stood up all night coming up with comprehensible explanations for the things that didn't add up at first within the final episode for my own peace of mind. Overall people need to learn to appreciate things for what it is. I'm glad I'm not the only one who can take value from something that admittedly had more potential to wrap up and end everything.
@@mystery785 Yea, I actually have come to understand the ending way way more since I wrote that. Idk why but AOT is probably the first anime where I feel like I need to be able to understand the ending. Whether it was his intention or not, Isayama made AOT and it’s lore so complex and after I started understanding the way the ending was I can’t do anything but appreciate AOT more. I’ve been looking back at certain points of AOT, looking through a ton of videos that try and explain the ending(some that were about why it’s bad and some that were about why it’s masterful) and after everything that I have seen I don’t think there will ever be a day where I don’t talk about AOT as anything but a masterpiece and that is how I feel about it. I also would like for people to be able to appreciate the ending for what it is but I think that the way a lot of people react makes sense considering how massive the ending is as well as all of the misinformation and misconceptions that have been going around because the story being complicated leads to us being able to comprehend everything we are given differently as the individuals that we are. If the ending was much longer and planned out better I do honestly think that most of the controversy would not be here because the way the ending was packed together is enough to make us misinterpret a lot of it. I do feel though that as time passes more of us will come to be able to understand the ending.
@@mystery785
I keep seeing the quote that Isayama changed his ending being brought up a lot, but people seems to have missed that he basically admitted to going back on it.
After season 1s premiere the anime blew up in popularity so Isayama said he changed the ending because he felt more responsible to the readers now due to the popularity.
However during season 4s premier Isayama says
"I think I've always wanted to hurt the reader so I thought maybe I should draw what I've always wanted, maybe that's better"
The ending we got wasn't last minute changed, it was basically something Isayama always wanted to do but seemingly was too scared to do but ended up going for it anyways. The ending is foreshadowed several times in his first 14 chapters actually.
However Isayamas uncertainty of his ending is probably why it feels a bit lacklustre in execution for some people, as it's something he's always wanted but was never sure off
I think watching this whole thing as a movie really helps paper over the plot holes. I can't imagine reading it as it came out
???It was almost exactly the same. Scenes were expanded on and dialogue was changed to be more in character.........
@@TOMHICHIBAN give someone however many hours it takes to watch AOT in one sitting and give someone else a literal decade of slowly analyzing every chapter and discussing theories/details/speculations as they come out. who is going to notice more plot holes? that's the point sergio is making..............................
It was amazing up until the last 6 chapters. It got continually worse until the absolute shitshow that was the ending. Fun stuff to watch the fandom on flames and 12yo twitter users calling it deep and shit.
yes i totally agree. I kept up with the manga until the end all those years ago and omfg it was just such a mess. But watching it in the anime made is a LOT more palatable. Especially with the voice acting and dialogue changes that kinda fixed some things a little. In any case, the ending is still not the best, but its not as bad as i remember it lol
@@Vanix9696exactly this
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Floch tried to save us from Chapter 139.
My king I kneel 🧎♂️
All PRAISE King Floch!!!! The leader we needed!!!
It retcons things that happened a few chapters before.
we respect king floch
Gabi saved sasha from this atrocity too)
The answer to all the plot holes in the story is "it is what it is"
😂
The world of Power Rangers has a better line for that
From the immortal words of Gosei "There's a simple explanation for that"
@@aestheticjedi1868another linkara fan?
@@aquaarmour4924 nah, already left PR(including the community) after Super Megaforce for Super Sentai and Kamen Rider.
Only Ymir Knows.
Eren didn't change anything in the past to possibly prevent the rumbling from happening because he actually WANTED to annihilate everything outside of the walls. He even says it himself. Protecting his friends and saving Paradis was always just a side effect of his true motivation, which was to completely stomp the outside world and turn it into the fantasy land Eren has been told about in Armin's books.
THIS THIS THIS. still pisses me off, it's like people think they understand Eren better than the writer who wrote the damn character. IDK if you ever read his AOT high school spinoff, but Eren in that would still fantasize about a zombie apocalypse that he could free his friends from. Fighting IS his character. He thought that stamping out everyone who hates Paradis is the best course of action.
@@Electronica27 Not to mention that Eren blatantly says it out loud that he wanted to destroy everything lol It doesn't get more obvious than that
@@wolfbrigade8042 its because people have a hard on for cool man rebel Eren. They want to believe he's cool AF, makes em just as bad as the Yeagerists tbh, and legit is like Isayama's way of being like "if you support him, you're just continuing the cycle of hate."
I think that you guys forget the part where Eren tells Armin that he intended to make them the hero's and give the world a chance for piece. Obviously this plan is extremely messed up, but he even states that he is just an idiot and couldn't think of a better way to save his friends. Yes, he does say that part of him wanted to see the world get flattened, but this is clearly not his intention, as he lets Mikasa kill him. If he wanted to there was nothing preventing him from taking away everyone's power to begin with.
I think this is another reason why we see what happens if Eren goes with Mikasa. Either way the world is destroyed by violence, so he was essentially stuck between letting his friends die, or going through with his plan to become the villain. Again, obviously what he does is not excusable, but Eren is not supposed to be some gynocidal maniac. He is intended to be a fool that gained power and didn't know the best way to use it. He is a slave to the ideal of freedom and is willing to do anything to protect his friends. This is just that taken to its farthest extreme.
@CombatUnit621 instead of calling out my argument lemme hear yours.
The ending is just one big M. Night Shyamalan fever dream.
The problem is Eren needed to die and there needed to be a dramatic ending. Theoretically, just by having the founding Titan, Eren could have forced the Marleyans into a peace treaty by threatening them with a rumbling. Instead the author wanted a convoluted code geass ending, which didn’t land. This story was never meant to turn out happy, but nothing was achieved or gained by all of the loss. The author wanted to convey history repeats itself, which wasn’t needed directly after having the main character sacrifice himself and 80% of humans for peace. The ending seemed absolutely meaningless.
Exactly! You nailed it. Honestly, it sounds like humanity would have been better if they hadn't bothered to stop the rumbling. Which is an strange state of affairs given everything the story was building towards.
Its not a disney story princess. Sometimes people destroy shit just cuz.
@@Doggo505 God you’re so right, the whole reason behind Eren doing anything is just cuz. Absolutely masterful writing.
I'm not sure what happened with Eren wanting to end the "cycle of hatred". If you're going to start then go all the way. The existance of Eldians threatens the existence of humans. Zeke's solution to this was to sacrifice all Eldians and Eren's solution was (up until the finale) to sacrifice all non-Eldians. Hange's (and friends) solution seemed to be in the middle, indecisive. They were somehow going to create peace. Now it turns out everything Eren worked for was for peace as well. I don't really understand this though, because sure there's going to be peace for the near future, but what about 50, 100, or 200 years from now? It's in human nature to eliminate that which threatens your existance. And as we see in one of the ending frames, Eren's grave ends up littered with bullet casings. So war did come to Paradis after all. Eren half-assing it didn't end up doing much in the long run, so yeah im dissapointed with the ending.
Did you mean Marleyans instead of Eldians?
My favorite part of the AoT was the fighter jets shooting down the attack helicopter. Imagine watching season one and you hear someone say that.
You could completely get away with it too
Bro no way I literally laughed out from this 😂
are you talking ab paradis getting 9/11d 100s of years later in the credits?
ya how can a fictional story with not the most modern technology achieve that right..
@@rithwikvmenon638 "Right, that would need more technologically advanced cultures and the only humans are inside the... Oh, oh..." 🤣
27:48 I always prefered this. I didn't need Eren to be this master, all-knowing puppeteer that manipulated his own father in the past to get him to be able to pass the Attack Titan powers in weird time paradox shenanigans. I was absolutely ok with Eren being the manifestation of all the hate the world threw against the Eldians coming to give some of that hate and violence back and Armin and Co. breaking the cycle and restoring peace for a while or at least ending the Eldian-Humanity conflict forever. Now humans could erase themselves without the intusion of giants.
It would have been a more typical ending but The Last of Us showed us that you don't need an overly complicated plot to make a good story if the characters are good and I think AOT had that type of characters.
Yeah this. They flip flopped on the character every other story point. I guess to appease the shippers and fanboys. No idea. He has so many conflicts of interests and totally different goals and honestly changed his entire character in season 4 and made everything else pointless
I hate the time travel, alternate univerise shit
Wow, I didn't find all these problems, but the ending felt wrong to me because you have to bring these connections, these many loose threads together yourself, something that hasn't been the case to this extent in the whole story up to this point. It feels like one or more pieces of the puzzle are missing. In this context, to justify Ymir's actions for all these centuries ultimately through her love for the king seems implausible and incomprehensible to the audience against the backdrop of all the previous history. I never had a moment here where I thought "ok, that explains everything now".
All in all, this is complaining on a high level, but if there's anything to criticize about the series, then in my opinion it's clearly the ending.
It doesn't have enough satisfying explanations or the positive vibes to make up for it.
I honestly think isayama fucked up somewhere down the road where he just decided to change the ending to be less controversial than what he originally planned for the ending to be. This is quite plausible and actually eluded to with the retcons, red herrings, and plot holes season 4 had. To be upset is very understandable. It is what it is and we got the ending we got. And with that we must take what we can from this story. Not a happy unrealistic fantasy. Not a horrific villian domination. But an unsatisfying itch of grounded reality. We must keep moving forward. In a world where conflict is inevitable. To face tragedy with strength, to love and cherish the people we have, and to fight for a better outcome. Ultimately (plot holes aside) that is what this story means based on the ending, and that's as beautiful as it can get.
@@mystery785 this would be an explanation, but I heard that this actually is the ending he planned long ago. so another explanation would be that the story is simply evolved, and that the concept for the ending simply did not fit any more or not so good to the rest of the story.
@@mystery785 Yea he changed it after the success of Season 1 in response to the new found popularity, and the responsibility he felt to the readers/watchers.
He has been known to hesitate ALOT in his writings and u can see it here and there as time went on, and how any of the notable changes he oversaw for the anime adaption became the official canon tht retcons a good bit of what the manga has shown.
Ending being a perfect recent example where dialogue order, extended or added scenes, changes and pacing was improved a good deal.
And explains why the "backlash" was ALOT more minimal for anime onlys or converted manga readers from hating to loving or at least appreciating the ending for wht it is.
(Despite requiring the audience to go back through messages, symbolism, etc of the series to fully comprehend what the ending was trying to say)
Problems? More like general misconceptions about the series
The ending scene(of development and Tree) directly or indirectly said
"whether ending is good or bad after some time everyone forgot the Heros and War will begin once Again".
That scene made me speechless
Same
Imo this made the ending quite compelling desptie the plotholes, i dont think an anime like AOT that so often served as political and philosophical commentary on human nature and structural impositions like the history of the eldians and the hate the Marleyan government (and all other governments) felt for eldians as a result. The fact that the ending was one that wasnt a happy ending feels accurate and in sync with the fact that human nature inevatably causes conflict continuesly.
It is depressing yeah
I dunno, I like to think whoever discovered the Titan’s power again decided to use it for good. Call me an optimist, but history doesn’t always have to repeat itself
@@_______7783Exactly what I’ve been saying. What mattered to eren was two things, the safety of his people especially his friends for as long as they could live, and ending the titans. He achieved both of those things for better or worse despite all the crazy godlike power he had and barely understood, he never was trying to save the entire world. In the end he pretty much leveled the playing field by killing 80% of humanity, conflict was never going to stop and that’s where I think people watching this series go wrong in expecting things to stop once the titans were gone.
I think you misunderstood the Falco part. It's not that he happened to shift and fly off. He thought he might be able to fly and they chose to sacrifice the ship in hopes he could be of use in the fight. Annie got with them because she couldn't let the kids go into war alone while she alone stood down.
yep this
Thank you finally someone gets it
falco inherited the jaw titan. the jaw titan cannot fly, they do not explain why falcos jaw titan can fly.. its just all way too convenient and a load of bs
@@TomTang-sj2zk falco turning into a bird was called back to his first introduction
Do titan powers really make sense? Plus the bird design seemed like the Jaw Titans next evolution sure isayama could have explained it but he did call back to it
I mean at first I thought the same about the credits: “it was all for nothing”. Then I remember Armin with Zeke and how they talked about what made life worth living. War can still happen and the titans can come back but it’s not about the multiplying of life but about the little things that make life worth living, that make it all for something.
hat is the message of the anime? Genocide actually works great if you're doing it to protect your friends and family? In the anime is showed Paradis being annihilated like 500 - 700 years or more into the future which means genocide does work and more people should be like Eren
Eren should have succeeded in killing off everything outside of Paradis and then the timeskip ending shows that there is a civil war 100 years or 200 years later. There will always be war, no matter what you do. It doesn't even matter if you kill everyone outside of Paradis. More land and more greed, civil war. It shows Eren's decision was wrong in the end. There is no peace no matter what you do. His friends children or grandchildren still die in the end. This depressing message would have been more better than the message that genocide makes peace last for 700 - 1000 years
People that said the ending is good and that you don't understand the story ... conveniently doesn't try to explain why they liked it or what is the "true" understanding of the story.
You don’t need a reason to like something, sometimes something just makes you happy… do you think everyone that says they liked it is just lying?
@@justicemcintosh3294”something makes you happy.” There you go buddy you have your reason LOL. What are you saying? We as humans don’t gravitate towards something WITHOUT reason 🤣🤦🏻. They aren’t lying. Their understanding is flawed and this leads to their reason for liking it ALSO BEING FLAWED.
@@Vortex_ICEcold so they’re objectively wrong for liking it? What?
People who don't understand the ending, don't understand the plot. It's safe, but makes complete thematic sense.
@@CrossxFir3I understand the ending, I just don't like it
**SPOILERS BELOW**
As a reader of the manga, when it ended people had very similar reactions to how people are reacting now, and after all that time what I can say for sure is that this ending has grown into me afterwards, I can accept it and somewhat see how this was fated to be their resolution. Eren was never going to stop fighting to be free, and his freedom would never be reached in life without the extermination of humanity outside the walls. I hoped for a better ending for him, but the ending we got was appropriate for the story, and it was beautifully adapted and accturate to the source material (manga).
I can honestly say it helped me understand the manga so much better I used to hate the last shot of the new tree and the little boy but this time around I had a smile on my face wondering what he’s gonna do with the hood like power now ?? I loved it all
Idk I personally feel like the ending was perfect, there wasn't really a situation that would have been better for Eren
You mean to tell me, people thought eren living was a better suited ending?!?
Realistic endings are extremely rare nowadays but when they are implemented they honestly be the best kind of endings.
It was way better than in the manga. I think the problem is the long wait plus the mid storyline. As manga readers we should be at least happy that it was improved alot, however for anime only views it can hurt
@@hedgehoge90The storyline was mid? R u sure?
He tried to make this show realistic. Humans have been at war with each other ever since their creation. I like the ending because not every ending has to be a happy one. The message of the anime is, no matter what, humans are gonna hate each other for one reason or another and even a mass extinction won't change that. Eren knew that and of the thousands of scenarios he saw through his future memories, wiping 80% of humanity would give their friends enough time to leave a peaceful life until the other nations were strong enough to retalliate.
I agree.
the ending was on point and makes sanse
They just want to watch a Shonen
or they could’ve just done zekes plan and have the exact resolution to live long peaceful lives
@@icekoldspartan3551 that wouldn't work, the Marley wanted the fossil fuel under Paradis and they needed the founder to stay in power. Marley was going to bomb them if they couldn't get the founder, it was a military decision to attempt one more time to get the founder before that result
Also part of having a long life is having children. Also historia would be sacrificed and her children devour each other...did you even watch the show
Let’s say ur friend group in High School is constantly bullied. One of your friends of the group decided to sh00t up the school and kill 80% of the staff and student body betting you guys would talk him down for the police to nab him or to stop him yourselves, thereby making u the popular kids in school for the rest of your tenure there. To boot no one really saw it happen cuz they’re all too busy running away, dying or hiding in their locked classes. And u say aww damn man that’s fucked up but I get it dude. Better yet once I graduate I’ll join u in jail cuz besties 4 life. That’s what AOT finale basically did. What a terrible way to get a theme across of violent cycles, true freedom/free will and friendship. SMFH a 10-yr blue balls
What is smfh?
Been a while since I enjoyed one of your videos, good one dawg
Problems with the ending:
1. Eren killed his mother so he could have a reason to be mad as if watching your people get eaten by titans wasn't enough. This also means that he is a bigger monster than the titans. He is the reason his mother died so he should hate himself more than titans.
2. Ymir loves King Fritz, a guy who murdered and enslaved her people, alsmost killed her then raped her and used her to kill so many of people and enslave others. He also cheated on her. Good Lord...
3. Historia became totaly irrelevant for no reason.
4. Eren wants to save his friends, but doesn't stop the titans from killing Hanji. Also, he almost murdered every single one of them.
5. The alliance has way too much luck and convenient moments.
6. Eren "doesn't want to leave the future of Paradis to be in danger". He also does exactly that...
7. Only Ymir knows.
8. Eren doesn't know why he did what he did and just wanted to see the world burn even though he had plenty of good reasons to explain his actions.
9. "It was Mikasa"... Mikasa's character is one of the most neglected characters in the entire story and then she just suddenly becomes a reason for Ymir doing what she did... absolutely 0 sense.
10. "Eren, what a man you are."
Well said
💯
You didn't pay much attention did you.
1. Eren sacrificed his family because it was the only way things can play out as they did. He told his father to kill the Historias half siblings, and used his brother to his own advantage. Why you have a problem with him using people when Hange herself pointed out how they lost trust in Eren when he went AWOL knowing they would risk their lives to save him should have been a clue.
2. She was hunted and used long before the king did anything and it can be viewed as a unhealthy relationship even if she did love the man who are we to judge her logic when all she wanted was to be accepted?
3. Eren made it clear as day he didn't want historia to be apart of it, and didn't want her kid to eat her to inherit the titans powers. Her biggest role was to GIVE Eren time to figure things out and it worked and now that child can grow up free from being looked down as a devil/not in a repeated cycle of eating the parent.
4. Did you not see how Eren reacted to Sasha's death? Do you not think that freedom doesn't come without sacrificing a few to save the many? Hangi choose to stay behind, she choose to go out and fight and because of a series of events that delayed their take off it was not Eren's fault she ended up dying for them trying to stop him.
5. Eren killed so many friends and enemies alike that idfk what you count as lucky when Armin and Mikasa were the key into saving the world, and ensuring a cycle of hate/prejudice ends for the people he cares about.
6. No he did not. His friends and the love of his life live a PEACEFUL life. What the world and Paradise does after they are all gone is up to THEM to maintain the peace for however long they can keep it. Mankind created the likes of Eren and it was Mankind who ended the long lasting peace his death created.
7. Well she has manipulated Eren for over 2000 ywars to be free and she finally is. She knew that one day Eren would be born to free herself from her own power, and she needed to make sure Eren was groomed for the role to do it but he was scared at what he had to do to give it all up in order to save those he could.
8. No he didn't. If you listened to the songs in AoT they tell you the state of Eren and Mikasa and how it is a back and forth struggle of knowing what has to be done will destroy eachother and Eren has to prepare Mikasa to live in a life without him. Everything he has done was for her to be happy, and live the life he couldn't give her for he was always meant to do this even though he wanted to run off with her and be happy.
9. Oh my lord....Mikasa always knew Eren will DIE in some capacity for in the OVA's Eren is meant to die and Eren tried to reach out to her in the paths to prepare her. In the world he created just for her where they lived out their lives when she confessed her feelings those were Eren's attempts to reach out to her for she kept calling out his name no matter where he was. It's poetic that Mikasa went from a girl who had everything taken from her to a woman who ended up having a family, friends, and could live in a peaceful world they fought for, and the one thing she had to do was let Eren finally die even though neirher of then wanted it to be this way.
10. He is a boy when the events happen and his future self needed certain events to happen even when he tried looking for so many ways out and the only way he and mikasa could have been happy is if they sacrificed everyone even Armin to be happy with the little time they had left. However that wouldn't solve anything and Mikasa would die once Marly and the world invaded. He is the bigger man who didn't get to have everything he wanted and sacrificed few close people to him as possible in order to save everyone else and their families which is something he never got to choose because YMIR needed to be free.
Please don't just hate something that is pretty easy to understand.
@@masterblaster3508everyone understands it, man-child.
And it’s still a horrendous ending for way many more reason that op didn’t even mention.
It’s bad. A waste of time considering how it fks the entire series since a huge chunk of it relied on “it will pay off/it’s a set up” style of writing.
A potential 9-10/10 became a fat 7 at best
@@danielz-v4083
"Bad writing"
Is that all you got? What is the bad writing according to you? Explain because I stated how all of his or her points were pretty easy to answer so where is your excuse or are you just jumping on the hate wagon as your response is more or less proving my point?
Also i kinda like the whole war thing because they talked about it in the first season when the general asked eren if he thought one bad guy would unite all of the people and eren said it could for a little bit but human nature would cause more wars. I also like how the marleans still didnt trust the eldians because it shows that generational racism doesnt go away after a day and that they can say whatever they want but it takes time and effort before their mindset can truly change
@CombatUnit621 yeah I also left out where Eren called himself an idiot because this was his only idea and how armin blamed himself because he didn't help eren come up with a different idea
@@CombatUnit621 he did not say "It was a dumb idea". He said "He is and idiot who got super powers".
That completely means different things lol.
Like if his plan is "completely dumb" as you have said then none of his plans would have worked and Eren would not even have told Historia how to deal with the repercussions of his actions.
Him being and idiot just means, that whatever he ended io doing is not the most "big brain" plan genius people can come up with. His plan is basically something a normal dude could have think off if put in his situation.
@sonzhon7216 Yeah, he mentioned how eren called it a bad idea, and I was saying eren called himself an idiot because he couldn't come up with a different plan
@@Snzn18 rather I think it was supposed to be more like this, eren is the same as the people in power, in so many generations we have seen so many rulers and kings (people with power) starts wars over stupid reasons like a complete idiot and cause all the death and destruction of the world and eren is just like them, an idiot who was given too much power
@@CombatUnit621so, what Eren believes when he is 10 years old should count because… character development much?
THANK YOU, YOU SAID EVERYTHING
The lack of clarity might be the biggest problem with AOT's ending.
I think the ending was a huge mess.
Eren is a powerful kid who never had a time to grow up.. and the future was already determined.
What
@@SpongeBob38
if he'd grown up and experienced the world a little like Zeke, he wouldn't have such disregard for all of humanity.
Maybe he'd choose to sacrifice paradis just like zeke.
I would agree but he literally changed events to make sure the rumbling happened which means he potentially could’ve stopped the rumbling along with 80% of the population dying.
@@christophergillis7019but because of the rumbling his friends lived the peaceful life
It id inevitable to eradicate concept of war and racism from this world
But eren made them equal so it would give them time to be happy and that's what they did
So he did achieved something
@@christophergillis7019 no he couldn’t when he was talking with Armin and he showed him what the rumbling would look like when it’s done and Armin did ask why don’t you stop and eren he tried every theory he could think of to stop the rumbling but basically get the same result of peace and it never worked it was determined and he didn’t determine it.
it is hard to make a good ending for a unexpected success. yeah different plot points could have been taken to make it more cohesive.
This show went downhill after season 3. Season 4 felt like bad quality at times and then after paths it spiralled out of control. Wtf was Isayama thinking? I got tired of the show and dropped it after season 4 pt 2. I didn't watch the final 2 parts and I don't think I ever will. Sad as AoT was my favourite ever show when season 3 ended. What could have been
Whether it was easy or hard, that's doesn't excuse the shit ending. I'd rather it be on indefinite hiatus than end like this.
@@zub41r75it was actually fire at start. After annie pie scene it went downhill
@@Doom_Guy__what exactly don’t u like abt it? To my understanding a lot of people don’t like it because of the extra pages and a war had broke out and it seemed like everything eren did was for nothing which in actuality his only mission was to make sure his friends lived a long and happy life which they did he accomplished his goal and I think the ending is appropriate it reflects our own world in a way, there’s always gonna be a group of individuals who who don’t accept others for who they are based on religion, or race u see that with Marley and Eldians and our world with all these hate crimes as of late, war is always gonna be a thing when it comes to humanity we can never coexist with eachother and accept others for who and what they are the ending to me is perfect aot is a dark story from beginning to finish
@@user-ww7vt8se1m Well everything essentially WAS for nothing. The payoff of all the accumulated greatness from the show's most defining moments fell flat on its face in the end. I've seen literally fanfics with better endings than that. And then there's the absolute character assassination of Eren. It's okay for him to have regrets in the end but to be a complete child about it is embarrassing. I say wear what he's done, atrocities and all on his sleeve and own up to his own faults. There's more, but the video pretty much explained most of it. Feels like the time I invested in this show was completely wasted, YEARS. At this point, I'm just going to look for something similar with a way better ending cause yeesh. And don't give me that "it's hard to write good endings crap" either. Regardless of if it was hard or not that doesn't excuse the slop we got at the end of an almost well crafted story. Such a fumble 😔
Although for it's not really stated and more headcannon, I felt that Ymir gets freedom through Mikasa by learning to be ok with holding your abuser accountable. That is to say, she loved the old king out of Stockholm or PTSD or whatever, doesn't really matter, but that relationship is mirrored in Mikasa. She also loves Erin (for whatever reason) but hes hurting her. Hes killing her friends, calling her out, bringing her pain. Through Mikasa both accepting that she does love Erin but also doing what has to be done, Ymir learns that she can still love the old king even if she acknowledges that he did terrible things to her. The moment where Mikasa kisses Erin after decapitating him is for me, that critical moment (so i didn't hate it) But! literally all of that was contrived and is never actually stated or really talked about in the show so i might be giving too much credit
No that's literally what the motive is, it's more detailed in the anime than the manga. Isayama wrote the script for the anime I think to kind of get more of the point across because for manga readers a lot of it was kind of vague (I also read the manga). A lot of his points and issues with the manga were provided way more nuance in the anime.
Bro who is this erin thing
Eren wasn't even her abuser, he literally said he wanted to live with her. Ymir herself made eren look the abuser and then made him kill 80% of humanity just so mikasa will finally stop being " uwu eren" and kill him so ymir can be free. Tell this isn't the dumbest plot
This makes sense especially considering that eren was such a bully when he met her and armin at the table before setting off to find zeke. He had already visited her through the paths, he had professed his love for her many times. He only ever said truly hateful and hurtful things to her at that table. Probably because he knew he had to to get her to strike him down at the end.
That whole plot was really stupid.
Eren tried to be like lelouch speed running
Not supporting the ending, but also not hating it either.
Ymir was looking for 'connection', for companionship, friendship, togetherness, love. It is not uncommon or unrealistic that hostages or those in relationships with an abuser to feel what they think are feelings of 'love' towards them, it is well documented. Secondly, her love to Fritz gave her her Children, which again, gave her everything she sought.
It is the contrast of that love, to the love Eren and Mikasa had, that 'ended' the power of the titans, Ymir had to be shown that there was another way, the love Eren and Mikasa have is not a romantic one as some are suggesting, it is very much a familial one, they are eachothers whole world, they have been together almost every day of their lives since Mikasa came to live with the Jaeger family, they of course love eachother, and maybe there are other feelings there too, but again, even that is not uncommonly found in history of siblings and/or close family who have suffered years of unending trauma or hardship to form that kind of relationship with one another, they are the only person the other one has, that has always been there, that they've always been able to rely on, and in the case of Eren and Mikasa the two are not even related, just because they grew up together does not make it in any way 'incestuous' or wrong.
Back to my point, it was the fact that Mikasa was willing to kill Eren, the man whom she loved to save the rest of Humanity - something Ymir herself could not or could not bring herself to allow to happen to the man she claimed or thought she loved. This is what broke the curse and ended the power of the titans.
In terms of an explanation / origins story? Why do you need one? This thing that made Ymir who she was exists because the writer wrote that it should exist in this world, we need not be given an answer to why or where it comes from as much as we'd like one, though, Zeke pretty much gave us the answer in his monologue to Armin, "life finds a way."
The ending with Paradis being bombed literally just shows you what the story has been trying to tell you from the start, right from Erwin and Pyxis' conversation about humanity, there will never be peace until there is one human or less, secondly, everything in this universe is in an endless cycle of repetition.
This.
Not reading allat
Have you watched darling in the franxx? It felt like that one of those weird endings
@@smokedyamans2181 makes sense for someone like you
Perfect summary.
The thing with eren distracting the smiling titain is that one time paradox (think it's bootstrap) where an event happens then a character goes back in time to that moment and realises that even isn't going to happen so makes it happen. So eren making the smiling titain eat his mum is because that's how he had it happen and how it needs to happen so his precived events can still occur. There was no other way that happened. Atleast that's how I think that all works I'm not exactly sure correct me if I'm wrong.
It's still stupid. He didn't have to write it ignoring Bertholdt. Isayama wrote himself into a corner that he had to write himself out of. Very stupid. We didn't have to see it entering and ignoring Bertholdt.
He wrote it to explain the time paradox Eren was in.
Eren knows he needs Bertholdt so he saves him not knowing what year or time it is.
Time when Eren's mom is in danger.
@@m.i.aa.i.m383 He doesn't have to write Bertholdt being saved, my guy. It's a completely superfluous scene. There doesn't need to be a loop where Eren has to kill his mom. It's an unnecessary contrivance that ends up butchering Eren as a character.
@@aaronyaygerno, it demonstrates how stuck Eren is. Dina/smiling titan walked past Bertholdt. Dumb titans eat everyone, even titan shifters. Dumb titans also can’t be hidden from, see Season 1. Ignoring that incident would be leaning a loose end, even if most people would miss it. But, more importantly it has value that OG commenter mentions. Eren is stuck, if he stops Dina, his mom doesn’t get eaten, he never becomes the Founder, and but someone else does and completes the Rumbling. Like a fixed event from Dr. Who. This whole point is to illustrate that despite how immensely powerful Eren has become, he is incredibly powerless to change anything. We’ve seen this before when Eren failed to save Hannes. Eren is a tragic character. People will always live, fight to live and die, with or without Eren, with or without the existence of Titans. Despite how ludicrous the world seems, there we see multiple times how seemingly simple but meaningful moments keep driving the characters to live. Which I think is the point of Attack on Titan.
So back to your point I think it is valuable they included that scene. Please correct me if you disagree, I’ll be thinking about this finale all week
@@aaronyayger why does he not have to write it? So the story will be simple and open to more plot holes?
Imagine this,
You have the power of a god and you cant even save your mom?
How stupid is that story?
Man I always had a bad feeling about the ending but the way you explain it all makes me realize just how bad it really is. WOW. what a failure to an amazing series.
The anime was actually slightly different that last convo between armin and Eren the slight shift in where things were said and reactions made a massive impact
"I don't know what happens after I die, but I know... you can make it to the other side of the walls. Humanity will be saved by you, Armin." Eren's last words to Armin, before he wipes their memories and leads them to his death.
Ymir shouldn't have made any titans after the Doomsday titan to begin with, Eren literally freed her and told her it's alright to stop serving people that don't even know or care about you. Also the fact that killing Zeke stopped the Rumbling was strange as well considering that Ymir stopped caring about royal blood, but stopped the Rumbling because the royal blood disappeared
if you think that then you didnt understand
@@yeetnessthegreater1298 Didn't understand what?
@@furiousdestroyah9999didn't understand because its all about love. the whole show is about Love. how did you not realise that. u stupid? i did and now i am not stupid. wow what an ending
@@furiousdestroyah9999 Eren only offered sympathy for her, that doesn't mean liberation. Ymir was obviously angry but also she knew this action would lead to her final liberation and the end of the Titan powers
It is more like addiction (don't take it like that though), when you want to stop an addiction for a long time but really can't, it has attached itself to your mind so you can't get rid of it and instead rage (rumble) when you can't get over it and in the end are liberated from it by self realisation
22:01 he said he ran countless changes to the future this was the best one.
He’d still get to annihilate the people outside the walls while giving his friends a chance to kill him of their own free will. Them being heroes was just a side note and an excuse.
What was the point of Eren fighting back and calling all the ancient titans for battle?
His plan was to get blown up, transform into a collosal and then get decapitated by mikasa, that would have happened anyways without having to fight and risk their life
I think Ymir could have definitely made easy work of everybody trying to stop Eren but i think she mightve held back because those were Eren’s friends. She could have easily taken Armin’s head off but clearly Eren already had plans for Armin with the memories coming back, she probably didnt want to get in the way of that.
exactly it lacks a solid foundation it leaves us guessing and its just lazy writing
@@TomTang-sj2zk no it isnt lmao ymir was watching mikasa and was going along with eren she was seeing if mikasa would have that moment with her lover like ymir and switz during the spear throw. to see if mikasa would of actually kill eren unlike her when she saved Fritz.
@@TomTang-sj2zklol it’s low IQ guys like you that gives the ending of the series a bad wrap.. you don’t even understand Ymir’s role or presence there
@@ItsMe-bt4tm That shit was stupid. You're telling me that in 2000 years Ymir didn't see a single instance of love or someone freeing themselves from their opressor. What about Ymir and Historia? Zeke and Grisha? Those are instances of love but if you're talking about specifically someone freeing themselves from their opressor, what about Historia overthrowing Rod Reiss, an opressive figure that tried to use her for his own goals?
2000 years but a half eldian killing her brother and kissing his decapitated head is what cured Ymir. Makes sense.
@@KBhunterx262 Yeah you named people who care for each other unlike Eren/Mikasa and Ymir/Fritz who were (romantically) in love. Different aspects of love.
Now if you wanna say Ymir loving Fritz is psychotic which is true I get that. But, if you look at real life and how fucked people of the past had relationships back then (incest, power, status, age gaps, multiple lovers) not all that far off on how we can see Ymirs viewpoint on what Love is to her and the relationship she had with Fritz. Imo her low IQ, Status, Daughters, and Empire they built together is what made her love Fritz in a sick way.
Anybody notice when Annie was refusing to fight and going to the ship, everyone except Levi waved her off?
She stomped Petra 😭😭
She ki**ed his squad..and first love of his life.
@@Nermeen. Levi never loved Petra
I did he was glaring at her
Not much but that was honest enough for me
@@Nermeen. Isabel is more like Levi's true love.
I dont know what everyone is on about. I thought the ending of AOT was a fucking master class.
people hate isayama's ending because of idiotic plot points.
1. Ymir loved King Fritz.
2. Historia married a guy who apparently threw rocks at her.
3. Eren killed his own mother.
4. Eren doesn't know why he did it.
5. Eren claims to be just an ordinary idiot that contradicts his mother's statement.
6. Where did the worm thing go after eren's death? They didn't even show what happened to it after mikasa killed eren.
7. How come paradis people accepted mikasa and alliance onto the island without any conflict?
8. How did paradis manage to stay in peace for so long, because realistically, it should only take the world 100 years at most to get back on its feet.
9. How did the eren's friends get a happy peaceful life on the island after being traitors to their people?
10. How did mikasa cross an entire continent and ocean with eren's head?
11. Entire survey corps died just so Ymir could witness mikasa kiss eren's head for her glorified therapy.
12. Wasn't Ymir free when she decided to help eren? Why she needs mikasa to free her?
@@jyotirani8187 Except 1,3,5,8,11 and 12 everything else made the ending bad. I liked the plot hole of him killing his mom and because that’s the only way he is getting in the survey corps. While points such as why wasn’t paradis attacked after the war was because Marley understood who was the real villain and saw how the people of paradis were also victims. So Marley who might had a strong connection with other nations might have said how did the alliance help them to stop the rumbling and that’s why they were call “hero’s”. Without the alliance the whole population would have been wiped out. While for Ymir she needed mikasa to free her because she had the misconception that supporting you’re loved one’s crime is the way to show you’re love and that’s why she made titan for king fritz for 2000 years. Here “free” means making Ymir realize. In the ending eren was the only one who understood Ymir that’s why she wanted him to kill everyone while eren instead wanted mikasa to kill him so that she could understand what’s true meaning of love and remove the Titan powers. Tbh there are still many plot holes and isayama is gonna clear them on June ,2024 so we could wait. Mappa shouldn’t have added “the final season” and instead should’ve made a season 5 to clear all this plot holes .
Alternative ending would have been Ymir sending messages back to her old self meaning not saving king fritz just like how mikasa was ready to kill eren and hence Titan powers would have ended.
It's an ending that proves you shouldn't fight against fate because you can't change it, loving your adopted siblings is normal and that abuse victims love their abusers. Can you truly call it a masterpiece?
The vast majority of that was explained -.-
"I am making this video before the final episode comes out but releasing it after it does, because I think the anime fans would hate the ending, since nothing at all would be changed 100%"
Yeah that... that wasnt a good idea.
It’s funny cause a lot of anime onlys and even manga readers ended up liking this ending, with the minor changes and whatnot
Its been an honor to hope with all of u, hopechads
I will die on the hill that Isayama (under the influence of his editor) changed his planned ending to shallow and typical Shonen BS. There's just no explanation for the rushed ending and poor writing that suddenly happens after chapter 131. A show known for killing off characters can somehow have everyone survive a death battle at the end and other nonsense. It's so obvious he changed the ending.
The way the anime starts/ends with Mikasa's last words to Eren tells me Isayama knew what he wanted to do from the beginning....and I 100% agree with you. I fully believe he deviated from what he originally wanted due to higher ups coming down on him.
The isayama riding is crazy
I believe the opposite is HELLA popular. He was carried by editors in many ways, and when it came down to the end, tried some Code Geas copy paste .
I’m not saying he wasn’t even a good writer, but most of the second part felt bad if you weren’t biased and the last 10 or so chapters of the manga were abysmal in terms of writing , so yeah, editors don’t simply make you do a trash key aspect to the story, you simply don’t know how to adapt or stand your ground.
Toriyama, from dbz, is a perfect proof of that
@@danielz-v4083I think the problem became really apparent with the whole Paths thing, it seemed something too big for Isyama to handle and as a result was used as simply an excuse for whatever bullshit he wanted to pull off like in chapter 137.
@@danielz-v4083 Thing is - Code Gias copy paste come out nowhere and contradict previous chapters
To me the show became insubstantial after season 4, which is a shame, since the basement reveal was fucking genius. But the characters and the feeling that this was a human struggle ended after the introduction of the attack titans power; basically just a huge deus ex machina. There’s no better way to ruin an otherwise complex story than abuse themes just to make it seem even more complex. I felt like iyasama lost sight of his story after the reveal, it went beyond him into something he could not altogether control anymore; thankfully he’s a fantastic writer so he managed to keep things tidy for a while, but then all the themes went to hell and it felt like he was just trying to tie lose ends. I personally didn’t understand the need for the random omnipotent powers of the attack titan and in turn what they did to Eren; I think it was not necessary in order to raise the stakes.
I agree wholeheartedly. The basement scene is the best part of the story and the beginning of the decline
I’ve never seen a story punch so hard just to fizzle out in the second half
@@Zonedoutallthetime bullshit , literally hardly anything to complain about besides personal preference on where the story went after that. After season 4 ? Was there a season 5 I just missed. The basement reveal changed the presumed themes of aot and when season 4 actually came,Guys just couldn't rehash there mindset on the themes. Fighting the titans to fighting humanity. If the ending was better you would not be even saying this.
you completely misinprate him,if you wanna make analysis recontex all the word he said and not make asumpsion by one word,armin-so do you did this for us
Eren-no
Eren-i wanted to trampled everything
Eren-i wanted to see this sight
Eren-i just wanted to do it very badly
Tell me how are you gonna explain this dialogue?this is what i hate about casual wiewer they completely didnt understand simple dialogue like this
Armin-determination?you do this by you own will and you call it determination
Armin-why this is happening,is there really no other choice
Eren-i thought i do this for protecting you guys,but sahsa,hange,floch died because of me
Eren-why?why this is the the only "possibilities and outcome that happening",
Eren-its because iam 1diot that got too much power
Eren actually have choicee,he doesnt got slaved by fate but in fact got slaved by his own will and his own egoism
,his main motive thst makes him "choose" rumbling is to satisfacting his desire of false freedom,the sight of freedom he always dream of,sure there other motives like erased titan power,protecting paradise,save his friends,but deep down he wanted to satisfacting his egoism
@@Zonedoutallthetimeme if i lack literacy lol, s4 objectively best aot season
@Thundeclap FMA is better than most of Season 4 of AoT
Don't forget historia we spent so much time with her and she did nothing in the end she was not relevant
I moment of silence for the anime onlys who we hoped a better future for.
I like how you say this but most anime-onlys will love the ending.
@trueweaver5604 I am doubtful, I do not read many manga. I really one read one's where the anime was just too good, and I couldn't help myself. I haven't seen a positive take on the end of AoT. It's a mess. I mean, good on them if they do, but I don't think so.
The ending wasn't happy at all, but as an anime only I think it was beautiful and didn't ruin my overall view on Attack on Titan as a masterpiece and one of the best shows I watched.
😢i honestly had hope that there would be Anime only ending that's why they took so much time but it really just ended like this?
@@jacobt1279It is by far one of the greatest shows just that....😢
People don't understand that Isayama has the worst ending for AoT in OUR timeline, which is now canonically the worst timeline. In a world that is better than ours, there was a dope ending for AoT that cemented it as the greatest show ever.
Aot sucks it promotes terrorism and military aggression
Main characters are fighting in a war started by their own country(Eldia and Marley never signed a treaty, Eldia’s king just ran away to some island)
Main characters literally start a military coup on the government.
Main protagonist (who is portrayed heroically as doing things for his friends) attacks the entire world and is thanked by his former friend(who is portrayed heroically)for his aggression and genocide
never seen someone coping like this before
@@Hudramshinzoffy Armin and Eren anrent suposed to be portrayedd heroically, the point is both are going to reunite in hell, isayama just sucks writting the ending
This comment is hilarious😂😂😂😂
It's a beautiful ending. People will just barked anything they don't like. They thought ohhhh, everyone should be killed! nooo everyone should have an happy ending.
Let me remind you that Aot is a controversial story in the first place, ending is going to be hella divisive no matter what. The story is complex and there is no true way of ending this. There will be always those life unsatisfied.
Eren has no future or past, so it's incorrect to refer to him as "future Eren." He obtained god-like powers, existing outside of time, simultaneously experiencing all moments until he chose to cease to exist. This concept is similar to the movie "Interstellar," where everything happens simultaneously for him, creating a temporal loop.
If we consider Eren's powers, the Eldians would never be free as long as he existed. To grant them true freedom, he needed to cease to exist, including his beloved Mikasa and Armin.
It's important to note that the scene where Eren broke down does not represent the "real Eren" because there is only one Eren. This means that if he said something at any point, he always knew it. Again, since everything is happening at once, he has no beginning or end.
Some people argue that Eren was following the will of the Attack on Titan, but this is incorrect because he is the one who created them. He also gives them commands, including to himself.
With the powers bestowed upon him by Ymir, Eren existed at all points in history. With the powers of the Founding Titan, he controlled all Eldians at all times. This is why Eren can be considered a god in this context.
Everything that happened was because Eren willed it to happen.
The disappearance of the Titan power from the world was not solely caused by Eren's final action. It was Ymir's last action that led to this outcome. Eren played a role in enlightening Ymir through Mikasa's example, showing her that it was acceptable to let go of love, immortality, and her 2000 years of service. As a result, Ymir herself vanished, taking the Titan power with her. However, the power resurfaced when the Hallucinate creature found a new host approximately a hundred years later.
In conclusion, the finale of Attack on Titan attempted to replicate the ending of "Code Geass," but for some, it felt similar to the dissatisfaction with the ending of "Game of Thrones." While I understand the finale, it could have been executed better.
Ultimately, time is not linear, and Eren, as a god-like being, was the scriptwriter of this story until he chose to die.
Many express dissatisfaction with the ending because Eldia is still under threat in the future due to Eren's incomplete execution of the Rumbling. However, the author intended to convey the idea that regardless of circumstances, humanity will always engage in conflict. Even if Eren had fully carried out the Rumbling, resulting in only Eldians remaining, they would eventually find reasons to fight amongst themselves given enough time. The notion that Eldians fighting each other is preferable to the world fighting against Eldians is illogical. Ultimately, people will always be at odds with one another, regardless of shared or unshared bloodlines or ancestry. The essence of Attack on Titan is to demonstrate that humanity is inherently inclined to wage war upon itself, whether the conflict stems from racial differences or other factors. The world is a harsh place, and no amount of Rumbling could permanently eradicate conflicts.
But didnt he say in the last episode when he was talking to Armin, he tried many different times to change how things would end up, and it still ended up the same... the rumbling still happened everything he tried to change the way things played out...
Yup
Can you give like one example of how he tried to do that. All this time he was slaved by ymir's will to be free and that kills the character of eren, pretty simple
@tipu._.9245 He saved Ramzi when he was getting beat up in the alley even though he tried to walk away and ignore it.
@mckloggins which doesn't make sense. If you know the future, it should be easy to change it. Just not save ramzi. Run away with mikasa. Doesn't seem very hard to do.
@@jyotirani8187 Even he knew the future but eren always is eren, he still help the boy anyways as the future he saw, no matter what he saw in the future. Future eren and present eren still the same
Chapter 139 is what turned the majority of fans off.
Cry harder
yes but the extra pages made many people come back......to laugh at the stupid ending and attempt to make AoT 2 aka Beren the next generation lmao!!!
@@puladan9296I hear they're going to add even more!
Do you mind not being half the comment section???
Lol I couldn't just imagine the outrage when one piece ends😅.. cuz I truly believe the more perfect a story is the harder it is to end it..
Yes iam so scared that it will flop
Nah the mangaka are on different tiers. One mangaka is trying to replicate oda’s greatness while oda sits on his toilet thinking of different silly ways he can draw luffy.
There’s level to this shit and some mangaka you can have complete trust in. Unfortunately, aots mangaka isn’t like that. He’s good, and he created a hot, attention-grabbing plot, but towards the end (really more so when he started introducing other countries) his hotness ran dry. No homo.
Imagine comparing AoT to mid piece
One piece story perfect ? 😂😂😂 lol get out of here, it's literally written for 13 year old, childish af to even compare it to aot
@@sairentokira4786imagine calling the most sold piece of fiction mid get out of the closet
The fact marley used their airships to attack eren instead of evacuating civilian people further from the rumbling speaks volumes about their thinking abilities. I wonder how this country even survived within 2000 years
Marley would be so doomed if they didn’t have most of the Titan powers
@@sanaralerx9488 they sent 6 of their 7 titans to some island and were significantly weakened. They should have been attacked right after Maria's fall
I hate the way the series utilized Zeke so well in the 2nd season. And then afterwards just made him become fodder. His strength and role could have been portrayed better
Ah yes neverending feud between Ending Enjoyers and Ending Haters
Meanwhile me with popcorn
hell yeah brother
I liked it but I completely understand why people can hate it also, so give me some of those popcorn.
It was good for what Isayama was trying to convey. I just think those who dont like it dont understand the whole point of the story. To me it makes perfect sense @@markus10X
I was one of the dudes that said that attack on titan began as an amazing story. And ended like HOT GARBAGE
The titan’s abilities seem to be different overtime due to mixing of spinal fluid and the intake of the predecessor abilities, this is backed up by experimentation with the Ackerman’s and with the consumption of the hardening serum by Eren. It’s also why Rod Reiss told Historia that he picked out a powerful titan for her and it’s also why Falco asked Annie if it was true the Female titan could mimic abilities of other titans after consuming a piece of them.
It also explains why all the Jaw titans except for Ymir had a hardened face plate (because they were injected with spinal fluid of the Warhammer titan) and it also explains why Falco also has a face plate (He was injected with Zeke’s spinal fluid which he had hardening as shown with Levi vs Zeke battle).
We also know every titan shifter takes on characteristics of themselves hence why Zeke is able to throw shit across the battlefield, why Eren is the attack titan and why Bertholdt and Armin were the Colossal titan (they didn’t want seek violence but yet given massive amounts of power).
It’s also why when Eren uses the founder titan he becomes a titan that looks like a puppet on strings. So it’s not an ass pull for Falco to turn into a bird like titan since his name very much derives for “Falcon”, especially with zeke’s spinal fluid he’s able to manifest powers akin the beast titan’s form.
Agreed, good thinking.
Since titan powers are transfered through spinal fluids, it's kinda like dna imo, and dna has mutations, things keep changing. Also, all of the shifters don't have completely different powers, all came of the same body after all
Lmao, imagine arguing that Falco being a bird makes sense because his name is close to "falcon"
Holy cope
Another thought, its the beast titan, not Ape titan. So why cant the beast titan not be any sort of beast, like a bird for example
We ran (disappointed manga fans) so you could fly (disappointed anime fans) now it is your inheritance, please preach about this
Eren explicitly said that he’s looked at many different scenarios of how all of this could have gone and this was the only way to keep his friends from dying and for them to live long happy lives. He also made the smiling Titan eat his mom to trigger the chain of events that would lead to this. I do get your point about the power of the founder and the pause of the rumbling. That part is a little fuzzy
but he also explicitly stated that he could not see what happens after he dies. So how does he know that his friends live long peaceful lives after he dies?
The rumbling paused coz zeke was killed, who was necessary for the activation of the rumbling
@@revcardian9488yeah because zeke had the royal blood from his mother which is needed to control the titans
Bestie half of friends is dead
Eren starts everything which means all those people who died from the beginning is because of his faults
This bum could've easily use the 50 years plan since Historia and her children, grandchildren along with paradis people got nuked either way. It's worst because after he did the Rumbling, the outside world hate Paradis even more and in fear of retaliation children are probably trained for wars. It's crazy and it's shtyy . It's goes against what he stands up for up until the ending anyway. Children got dragged even more into the conflicts after facing literal genocide.
Ramzi,Halil, Sasha, Hange,Floch , Erwin,Mike, Colt, Porco, Ymir, Carla,Grisha,Zeke etc... everyone died because Eren is a "garden variety idiot" who apparently did it because he's an idiot and wanted to. Stop defending terrible writing
@@SeeSaintZeee con questo si riesce a capire che non hai capito una sega dei personaggi e della storia, però è difficile ammettere che non si è riusciti a collegare due informazioni che sono state date negli ultimi episodi e anche negli scorsi episodi che servivano per farti capire la storia?
Persoanly, for me, I was watching a video regarding the final episode and this TH-camr said something that made the waffling from eren make compete and total sense, since Eren is observing the past present and future simultaneously he is a child whilst also being 2,000 years old, hence why we got the scene of him acting like a little kid as a grown man, he even prior to that had said “my heads messed up” which reinforces this concept. I also have a question, what the hell would aot be if eren never sent the Titan that ate his mother, what is the original timeline then? How would have things panned out?
In the defence of Eren killing 80% of world. He wants his friends to live in peace, making him see the future he had no other choice. He also mentions he can change the past but the outcome was always the same. So I am convinced this was the best outcome for his friends to live in peace. With that known i understand why they went with that, ofc all other points you mention are correct :)
Well, it was handled so poorly.
do the author of aot not read their own work? it has been established from way earlier that eldians doing the hero / savior complex type of shit doesnt work. King Fritz for example, where did his effort end up? no where, it got covered up and another great titan war still happened anyways. The rest of the world just doesnt seem to trust eldians that much. Imagine jew vs nazi germany, but change nazi germany to the whole fucking world.
@@largecupenjoyer1459It's YOU who need to read Aot again
you completely misinprate him,if you wanna make analysis recontex all the word he said and not make asumpsion by one word,armin-so do you did this for us
Eren-no
Eren-i wanted to trampled everything
Eren-i wanted to see this sight
Eren-i just wanted to do it very badly
Tell me how are you gonna explain this dialogue?this is what i hate about casual wiewer they completely didnt understand simple dialogue like this
Armin-determination?you do this by you own will and you call it determination
Armin-why this is happening,is there really no other choice
Eren-i thought i do this for protecting you guys,but sahsa,hange,floch died because of me
Eren-why?why this is the the only "possibilities and outcome that happening",
Eren-its because iam 1diot that got too much power
Eren actually have choicee,he doesnt got slaved by fate but in fact got slaved by his own will and his own egoism
,his main motive thst makes him "choose" rumbling is to satisfacting his desire of false freedom,the sight of freedom he always dream of,sure there other motives like erased titan power,protecting paradise,save his friends,but deep down he wanted to satisfacting his egoism
The best answer I've got, and it's not a great one, is that having the past, present and future in Eren's head made him batshit crazy and thus completely unpredictable.
But that doesn't make sense when it's stated that Eren knew what he was doing the whole time, and actively chose to ensure it happened. Eren decided this plan was best and doubled down when he saw it when he touched historia. Now I'd much rather what you are saying to be true and wish there was a moment where he actually broke away at the end but
Yea I don’t believe that 1 single human could shoulder the entire fate of humanity. Seeing how shit is gonna end or end up would drive me insane. Especially when you start to think about how whatever you do is either not going to matter or is what drives humanity to its fate in your quest to avoid that fate. It’s damned if you do or don’t cuz your action or lack of could be the undoing
@@calsas171just because you know something is gonna happen, doesn’t mean you can’t hate the idea still. Bro had to kill his own mom, his friends, while murdering 80% of humanity. If you think someone would be sane after that then idk what to tell you
@@refillable1185 I guess that's fair, but when he is having whole normal conversations and acting like a baby about Mikasa in the middle of all that, it kinda doesn't lead to insane to me
@@calsas171he knew what he was doing but it was muddled wether it’s was his aspiration or ymirs
Personally I can appreciate how beautiful crafted the story and character building was throughout and I loved the ending. To take all your joy you’ve had for something for so long and decide it’s “trash” bc you don’t like it’s ending? Tough way to live and appreciate anything truly
W take. Felt like this was a very satisfying ending as an anime watcher and I was very worried given the controversial manga reactions. Tbh this video is just a provocative and reactionary take bring in traffic. Let the creators do their thing and the yt reactors do theirs. This guys channel is called "the weeb commander" like bro lmao
Thanks for writing this. I see a lot of reductionist opinions everywhere. Easy to complain, but harder to appreciate the effort spent and difficulty of the challenge. This story was great, there may not have been a perfect way to end it that’ll satisfy everyone.
Definitely agree with this take. I still think the earlier seasons of aot are the best work of fiction ive seen. And i still enjoyed the ending. I felt satisfied with it
I agree with your statement but what your forgetting is its an ending and something the series has been building up to for awhile, for some fan season 4 well was great in the moment was all building up to that conclusion, so if it'd bad and they hate it, in there minds it ruins a bunch of the show. Your completely correct with your way of thinking as I agree that should be the case if it for show that did have so much build up to the ending and had the story kinda riding on Erens true motivations. I feel like in this case hate can be warranted as basically ever since the time skip the show has been building up for this. Though I agree it would not full ruin your enjoyment of the show as the whole, you still you got to look at it from this perspective. But fans should never yell at people, fans, or creators because they don't like something.
@@Quinnsula5 You are 100% correct. Its honestly really sad to hear the authors been getting hate even tho he gave us this show in the first place. I can understand not liking the ending but you've got to be some sicko to actually send verbal abuse because of that.
I for 1 loved the ending. For me it straightened the timeline, kinda brought eren back to the eren we knew and gave me the answers I needed to call it a day.
Overall nothing short of a masterpiece.
Without a brain , ofc masterpiece
Completely agree
Yes by also bringing 5 huge plot holes
I wouldn’t call them plotholes I would call them unexplained titan/paths powers.
@@zedsuo11 plot holes? Which plot holes?
I don't think Ymir was flip floping. I was pretty clear to me that she wanted to die. That's why she didn't kill Armin. That's why when the moment was right, she helped them destroy the power of the titans, finally freeing her from the paths, allowing her to die at last.
If she wanted to die she wouldve just died. Nothing stopped her. She kept on suffering and contributing to the suffering and death of countless people because ... plot. But then she decided to just stop it when she saw Mikasa overcome her love/conditioning because... plot. It's awful, horrible writing.
@@kappa6544 She stayed a slave even after she "died" but Eren and Mikasa showed her that it must not be that way and she died with Eren because the founding titan was finally killed. If the founding Titan is no more all the titans are gone as they originate from him. Mikasa broke her curse metaphorically and literally physically that's why it's so well written.
@@matijajunger4800 First of all she wasnt killed physically. Thats not possible. If you kill the founding titan without anyone eating it the power just gets transfered to a random eldian baby, like with any other sentient titan.
The point the show tried to make is that she stayed alive because muh slave mentality and then she saw mikasa get over her slave mentality and she decided that she doesnt have to be a slave. After 2000 years. Thats all it took. Its stupid at best.
@@kappa6544 Yes but why would this applie to the founding Titan? It's the origin of the Titans and the one that is connected to the hallucigenia and without the rout connection the Titan powers disappear. That's just standard for stuff like that.
And yes Ymir was completely traumatized and was a slave and Mikasa overcoming her enslavement to love truly showed her that she does have a choice after all.
@@matijajunger4800how are mikasa's and ymir's situation the same? 🤡 The slave mentality gimmick is shit 🤡
Ok , everyone is forgetting eren is just an edgy teen lol. When Armin showed him the book, the outside wall was just empty without people and when he discovered there's people in it he just wanted to erase them. Simple, there it is, That was Eren's goal.
Not necessarily, sure he wanted there to be no humans outside the walls so he can enjoy that freedom and I can't blame him after seeing what they have done through his father's memories, but that's not why he caused the rumbling. He still did it because he wanted his friends to live long lives that's why he didn't take away armins, Reiner's, Annie's, and falcos titan powers so they could still kill him and make them seem like heroes or so the eldians has a chance to persuade the Marlyans. Eren is just a very confusing character.
That'd be better than what we got. What we got was some nonsense about turning Armin into a hero. You know, for the 20% of humanity left that has been knocked back to the Middle Ages. I'm sure the roaming gangs of the new wasteland will be very thankful.
I'll say the animation was certainly and deservedly the best of the series, given the scale and significance.
I'd read the manga so the ending did not hit me as hard as anime only watchers may have been. Its one of those endings that really don't satisfy you, but then there is no better ending to the series.
My gripes were oddly more of the tonality and score. AOT was the anime that got me into the importance of having a great score, so it has really set standards for me. Here, I felt that the score and both the tonality was pretty much more Marvel-ly, with energetic, upbeat music. Certain scenes required really better accompanying soundtracks that could leave you feeling heavy.
They did bring back some classics, but the impact was quite diluted. It almost felt they really wanted to milk out the action.
Also the scene with Armin and Eren about Mikasa, pretty much turned into a meme, and really just abandoned the emotional weight Eren had. They did the scene with the 80% population trampled dialogue much better, and I wish the same tonality could have been utilized for that scene as well.
The best scene for me was people lifting the crying baby. Very masterfully done. And I guessed it summarized the episode well. Great in bits and pieces.
It's crazy. Aot has been my favourite anime since I started watching it, and its been a great story to watch unfold.
Definitely wasn’t the best of the series but it was still really really good.
@@kwenqs Maybe. Personally was the best for me.
I'm still trying to find constructive criticism of the ending, it was literally perfect for me and everyone's critics seem to be like 'Eren didn't stay an edge lord like I wanted him to and had a emotional breakdown'. Maybe the anime culture just isn't mature enough for a realistic story and ending like Attack on Titan
@@CPTZK11 I honestly felt the ending was quite decent as per the story and theme of the series. It didn't drop a magic solution to all the bloodshed and loss, and war is like that. The Naruto Anime touches upon this stuff briefly during the Pain arc, but Aot is much more comfortable with handling grey characters than Naruto.
I'll say that while it was not exactly a plot hole, the whole angle about Ymir being in love with King Fritz needed to be explored in detail in her backstory. Given that all we have seen of him was a selfish, cruel person, what exactly made her love him is really questionable unless he showed some flashes of light that probably she pined for. I get the abusive relationship stuff, and I think the weight of that could have been better understood by that.
@@CPTZK11 Did you uh... watch the video? He brought up thousands of points that had nothing to do with edge lord Eren...
Bro there’s been wayyyyy worse endings in anime imo it wasn’t bad at all imo and couldn’t have been much better
I feel like the problem with this video is that you have the central theme of AoT all wrong. The point is basically akin to "war never changes." There may be times of peace but eventually the cycle starts again. It may be frustrating that this universe doesn't have a happy ending but what have you seen from the anime/manga that would make you think that there would be a happy ending? It's true to the real world, even after two world wars we don't have peace figured out in the slightest. Marley and Eldia deciding to just hug it out at the end and having conflict end forever wouldn't make any sense.
Despite its shortcomings, this ending is still memorable and anime did pull off an outstanding feat in story telling.
Nothing will ever make me feel the same way i did when finding out about marley in s3 and how the hints of many things were right in front of me, truly an attack on titan🤧
It wont be memorable, but it was okay
@@hedgehoge90maybe you just have a bad memory - LOTS of people will remember this decades from now
Good riddance, biggest disappointment in anime history
Thank you ! It definitely will be memorable, say what you want but it’s not that bad of an ending many people loved it or at least were satisfied with it. This is the first time I’m hearing that people “HATED” the ending… smh
If the final chapter was like 200 pages long to explain all the plot holes, I would've been fine.
I see people speak of plot holes, but they can never say what those plot holes are.
@@dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideosExactly 💀
@@dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideosI have literally asked this thousands of time and they never explain it
Plot hole claiming cucks are attention seekers
Thought the same!! Like how the hell did eren send dina to his mother instead of to bertholdt there is no logical explanation to it how he could control the past back there?? If eren was able to do it why was no attack titan user before him able to??
So my problem with the ending is that Zeke's plan was severely undermined by isayama. If Eren co-operated with Zeke, Eren's friends would have lived long lives anyway and more of them would have survived.
Zeke did nothing wrong and it was the absolute best choice in the long run
Zeke’s plan doesn’t work for Eren because Paradis Island will get destroy by all the other countries before all Eldians disappear naturally.
@@jareton But Ishiyama never states where it goes wrong,it was super vague explanation. If they followed Zeke's plan they could just keep destroying the world's weapons every decade while building weapons of their own Thanks to Hizaru and Hizaru would do all the manual labour for the Elidians in Paradis.
There is no flaw in Zeke's plan unless the future titan shifters are somehow assassinated and Flock even stated that Mikasa and the rest of his friends could live the lives they always wanted
@@Axelblaze1022 Eren only hv 3 years to live. So some has to take his power and the curse still remain. Also Eren doesn’t want his friends to die because of this curse so that’s why he wants to eliminate the titan power completely. So Zeke plan still doesn’t work.
@@Axelblaze1022so did we forget the speech during the declaration of war where they said they was Finna rage war on paradis?
When I first saw the boy and his dog's scene I liked it because I interpreted it as showing that aot's world is a never ending cycle of hell
Isayama’s biggest fault was trying to turn his story into a romance
Wrong
i get it, its too complex for you to like,all you are suggesting is a fairy tale ending but i think author chosen more depressing and quite realistic ending,humans are not as loving and caring as naruto makes you think and there is nothing as pure evil or pure good
and eren did lelouch here which everyone seemed to love and praise that as greatest ending of all time
I liked the ending too but its too complex is a dumb argument. I think why so many people hate the ending is because eren dies or because of his final moments like him crying and being pathetic or how convenient it was like the titan helping and falco being able to fly.
@@AbduletifMuhidin i m not making that argument he is, all the changes he suggested he is simplifying the story and character ,and yeah a character can be both pathetic simp and motivated chad,that's what makes them complex just like real human,and in their finalmoments humans can be emotionally vulnerable and "pathetic"
about the convenient plot points i think if you put your brain into every plot point in every story is convenient but i get that criticism since even i feel ending is being rushed or probably it is open to interpretation
Bro, kudos for you to speak your mind, they will hate you for this. I saw a lot of TH-camrs wouldn’t dare to criticise it. You got it man!
you completely misinprate him,if you wanna make analysis recontex all the word he said and not make asumpsion by one word,armin-so do you did this for us
Eren-no
Eren-i wanted to trampled everything
Eren-i wanted to see this sight
Eren-i just wanted to do it very badly
Tell me how are you gonna explain this dialogue?this is what i hate about casual wiewer they completely didnt understand simple dialogue like this
Armin-determination?you do this by you own will and you call it determination
Armin-why this is happening,is there really no other choice
Eren-i thought i do this for protecting you guys,but sahsa,hange,floch died because of me
Eren-why?why this is the the only "possibilities and outcome that happening",
Eren-its because iam 1diot that got too much power
Eren actually have choicee,he doesnt got slaved by fate but in fact got slaved by his own will and his own egoism
,his main motive thst makes him "choose" rumbling is to satisfacting his desire of false freedom,the sight of freedom he always dream of,sure there other motives like erased titan power,protecting paradise,save his friends,but deep down he wanted to satisfacting his egoism
Everyone coping in the comments 😂😂
Don’t forget Paradis got carpet bombed
Chapter 139 is the biggest betrayal in a story I have ever seen. I hate it so much.
W comment
It is sad when popular TH-camrs speak out on a topic in which they understand little and therefore misinform their significant audience. There are a huge number of errors in this video and the author is clearly not too well versed in AoT. Most of the "problems and plot holes" listed by the author are not such and have an explanation.
It's a pity I watched this video too late and now it makes no sense to write a comment with an answer to all the author's claims, since no one will notice it anymore.
nah, "most" (not all) of the hate on aot ending I feel is imo is a comprehension issue.
And since the manga was being released monthly back then, people came up with different types of theories for the conclusion with and people buying in to those theory for like a month (like "is there a multiverse" etc. etc.). Since it is a fact that the manga did put in the table with stuff that can mislead people especially since they are introduced then people had to wait for another month for the story to actually clarify what that stuff meant. And the ending not actually swaying towards anything this stuff people theorized mostly ended up disappointing people regardless of whether those theories are in essence "good" or objectively better than the actual ending. Add that to the factor that people do in fact have this "want for more or want that the series should go more for a few chaopters) which makes people to overly eager to find every reason to claim the ending was being rushed in some way or another.
But since the anime made this last few chapters be released as a whole package, (with the content mostly the same with revisions on particular dialogues but is still paced basically the same as the manga) and people don't really have much of the feeling that the ending was "being rushed" proves that even the actual manga did not really pace the ending so severely fast that it is controversially rushed or anything.
i agree
Tbh i am okay with the ending, don't get me wrong the ending did have it's flaws, But i really think this ending was the only way to end the whole series, Of course im REALLY sad it had to end this way, But looking back at it, It really was a Sad, heartwarming ending witch had to be done, But i do understand why it gets alot of hate, But thats just my opinion
100% with you there 👊
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aot should have never turned into a love story. it should have went a different route
It was a "good" ending not a great one, still loved the overall series as whole though.
@@yepimfreshthat’s what I was thinking
*The way they ditched the characters during the time skips is just outrageous!*
*Not closing the circle for the characters and not few panels with Mikasa its messed up but novels could've fixed it!*
I dropped it and now I see why. I lost interest after season 4 pt2. It just wasn't the same. It felt rushed at times and inconsistent in season 4 and honestly I can't be bothered to see the ending which was sadly my favourite show ever at one point
Aot sucks it promotes terrorism and military aggression
Main characters are fighting in a war started by their own country(Eldia and Marley never signed a treaty, Eldia’s king just ran away to some island)
Main characters literally start a military coup on the government
Main protagonist (who is portrayed heroically as doing things for his friends) attacks the entire world and is thanked by his former friend(who is portrayed heroically)for his aggression and genocide
@@Hudramshinzoffykeep crying aot I'd the best series even till the end it was perfect
@@Hudramshinzoffybro is desperate.
@@erenyeager6210 it got game of thrones treatment it legacy gone so I don't know what drugs you are taking but keep taking them you going to need them
always thought the moral of the story is quite simple "War war never changes"
Exactly. It doesn’t matter if Titans are involved or not. There will always be conflict. Erwin even says “The fight between man will never end. Not until our numbers fall to 1 or less”
Eren's goal was never to end wars. His goal was the end the cycle of hatred against Eldians.
@@300Xeon Then he failed spectacularly as after the rumbling everyone started hating Eldians even more
Due to circumstances his goal changed to making sure his friends were seen as heroes who live long and peaceful lives
@@xcrowx8140EXACTLY. which is why we're saying the ending is shite
I feel like theres two good enough in-universe answers to these questions and 1 meta one. In-universe 1 is maybe Eren needed Zeke until he died because of the Royal Blood baloney cause even though freed Ymir had some linger allegiance/Stockholm. But his death cleared that up and Eren then had full control of the Founding. 2 it’s kinda implied that Eren wanted even planned for his friends to stop and kill him becoming heroes and helping stamp their place in the world and taking all the blame on himself so that who ever he didn’t manage to kill wouldn’t gang up on them so he probably did things to throw the fight give ‘em a win. Meta reason is Eren was too OP for them to beat so the author had to throw some contrivances in there to give ‘em the dub
Eren manipulated mikasa memories when it was said that their clan cannot be controlled whatsoever by founder ! Isayama ruined his own writing at the end
The ending of the Manga is a real black pill moment for humanity. I was hoping the Anime would use the coordinate to spin an alternate ending.
it still will
@@Kitkat-tg3uu IDK bout that
@@Kitkat-tg3uu It did not, lay off the copium.
If i were a mangaka of a popular series and I saw that my ending didn’t do all that great
I’d honestly let the anime change the ending
This would legitimately be the best use of an anime only ending
And explain why things took so damn long. 😂
most people loved the ending
@@trueweaver5604 not most people
@@Koraidon576 Most people liked it, most people don't. We get it
@@trueweaver5604 it’s a decent ending, but it does fall flat in some aspects just like the video said.
It’s not an unpopular opinion to like the ending.
But if it wasn’t so disorienting to the main audience, shaft certain characters, and completely fumble the main message of the series, it would’ve been far better
Kinda like Naruto’s ending and how awkward it was
WE NEED YOUR UPDATED THOUGHTS/ANOTHER VIDEO AFTER YOU WATCH IT !!
Just because it wasn't the ending you wanted, doesn't mean the ending to the series was bad or "ruined".
My thing was always, if you can control and manipulate titan powers, why not just turn them all into Ackermanns? No more titans and a built-in defense system for every individual if the situation calls for it. Otherwise theyre no different from everyone else!
Because there's a limit to a power... it has never been established clearly how the Ackermanns have been created, it might require a holder to have royal blood because they are supposed to protect royalty in the first place.
@@OneWithinn But Royal blood is bullshit. It's all Eldian blood in the end, the only thing that makes it different is Ymir's obedience to the memory of King Fritz. with the full powers of the founding titan unlocked, Eren should've had no problem doing this.
Honest answer? Not edgy enough of a plot point. If Anime Comics and TV and Movies used common sense they would be a lot shorter and a lot less exciting.
@@mohammedkamli9721 that's another plot hole, if every eldian is also a descendant of the OG king fritz, then every eldian has royal blood.
@@shezyam460 The best explanation that Isayama could come up with for all the bullshit in this ending is that everything is predestined and no one has any free will to change anything. If that is the case, why do we even care about these characters? They have no
characterization or free will of their own; all of their choices are made for them. The characters in AOT are all just poor players that strut and fret their hour upon the stage, and then are heard from no more. AOT is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
To think, had Mikasa been honest about her feelings, Eren wouldve taken a different path
This whole story is about how women don't communicate properly 😂😂😂
@@Nebula_303 lmaoooooo
If Eren would have taken different path and paradise would have been destroyed right there !😂
Bro did you skipped the cabin scenes ?
it's about women being dumb and not able to tell men to go fu*k themselves (ymir, historia, mikasa, annie) (c) a woman
@@AM17titan who cares? paradis got destroyed anyways lmao. nothing matters anymore. it just doesnt make any sense its so stupid. isayama should really go back to writing school or something like that..
I still say Reiner, Annie, and Pieck all should've died. They didn't deserve a happy ending if Eren didn't get one, they have a lot of innocent blood on their hands which pushed Eren down the path he went down.
I have still, to this day, convinced myself Isayama is somehow forced by corporate to this shitty ending. There is just no fkin way he wrote this mess.
They the Clarification that History-Book-Honestyx IS importat and the MC's wont just play Pretend-Hero like Eren wanted BUT they left in the post-credit-scene in that had annoyed so many people.
According to me the only good point you raised to which I agree with is "what exactly is founding Titan?"
Every other point is up for interpretation. To me Eren doing the rumbling created peace and ended this eldian-Marlian issue. The scenes we see in the end credits is of way into the future may be 300-400 years ahead and as like Erwin said as long as two men are remaining they'll keep fighting so then fighting is not necessarily cuz of previous issue at that time.
And lastly the kid going under the tree trunk is also up for interpretation, to me he is a kid like Eren and Armin who is just curious and wants to explore the world.
Am I the only one who thinks the ending was actually perfekt? I mean, Eren was not a mastermind. He is just someone stupid who got too much power (just like in our world, a certain Russian, for example). Also, I think the message that the circle of hatred can't be stopped is something that is sadly true. There might be some points in the story that might seem illogical, but humans often act like that. And so did Eren.
The ending is perfect for me. I am seeing people complaining about why mikasa and eren didn't end up together or why eren has to die?.... After killing 80% population, some people still want them to live happy and peaceful lives?
@@realdan236 Yes, I don't understand it either. Maybe it's an exaggeration to say that the WHOLE ending was perfect because there were a few plot holes as mentioned in the video, but in terms of the message I think everything was perfect
My problem with the ending is, they tried to go "did it to make muh friends da heroes" direction with Eren after he annihilated 80% of people. That was so unnecessary and shallow. They also didn't give Reiner a proper ending.
@@machinaroyale4379 Like I said, there are plotholes, but the overall message is, in my opinion, perfect. And also, like I said, Eren is stupid. He was not a mastermind, and he had no masterplan.
@@vincent65789 Don't get me wrong. Overall, I liked the ending. It's just the small details that were added for no reason that bothers me (personally). Another thing is the 'Love' angle they tried to incorporate to the conclusion of Rumbling.
At the 22 min mark right now and i need to write this: Eren is stuck in a grandpa paradox. If Eren makes it so the Smiling Titan dosent eat his mom, the show as we know it dosent happen and Eren dosent get to the point where he can influence the Smiling Titan. In the whole show, Eren dosent have free will. He is trapped by his own future memories. For him, there is no "alternate timeline". This will happen, because they aren't premonitions, they are memories. He has to do what he does, because he has already done it. There is no way for him to not enact the memories exactly they are.
We didn’t really get closure for anyone, we only know Mikasa dies of old age.
Really wish I left it at the end of season 3 with them reaching the sea and finally being at free from the Titan island
They pulled an Itachi for Eren and it backed fired 😊
After chewing on the ending of the manga for two whole years, reading it multiple times and watching the anime special, I believe the ending is not only good, but inevitable, and a payoff for MANY things in the story. I'm currently watching the entire show again with someone who's new to the show, and I can see all the seeds Isayama planted for this ending from the very beginning, as well as seeing how focused on Mikasa everything actually is. Wtching the show again you would almost feel like Mikasa IS the main character
wow
Coped so hard he finally saw it was good.
😂🤣 he really coped so hard that he ia trying to justify this nonsense. Ridiculous @@silverhawkscape2677
Just so you guys know, this video is about the ending BEFORE he watched it in the anime. He made this video about the manga ending.
After he watched the ending, he made another video in which he said that he liked it.
I think you misunderstood aot. The story has like never been about peace on Earth. We start off thinking we know where all of the people are on Earth and they still fight and treat each other poorly. The entire manga has been about how humanity, by its own fears and desires to not only survive but survive comfortably, will always find itself in conflict. But even with this dark negative message it shows that the little moments are worth it none the less, not because they are so important but because they are the only positive things in this world and no matter if we wanna be here or not, we are still here. We were born here so we can choose to fight for the little moments or succumb to our natural evils
he never said the story was about peace on earth at all did you even watch the video ?? also the manga didn't start off with a conflict we directly start off with the story of a boy who sought freedom , uncovering the mystery that lies behind this world and survival . uprising arc flashes out the underlying conflict between humans and desire for power for the next arc return to shiganshina as well , grisha backstory prove that in dark time those little moment of joy robbed him of his sister life and he won't live for the little moments he will strive for a better world for the eldians ? also live or die is literally the ideology of eren and the yeagerist is present entire rumbling arc ? honestly this tones that you presented literally were being presented in the video so like did you watch the video or just wanted to say some1 wrong without realizing that your opinion was literally the same ?
I watched the last episode and thought it was a good ending. Eren is a complicated character, there's layers to the truth of his actions which he justifies and rationalises with Armin. The first layer is the idea of making his friends heroes by becoming the enemy, the second layer is for Mikasa, his friends and Eldians to live long lives without being Subject of Ymir which he accomplishes, but the final layer is that he simply wanted to trample the world and commit genocide. Eren did not change, he's still the whiny, naive child, we saw before he kissed Historia's hand, he wanted to kill all who stood between him and his freedom. And what happens afterwards is the reality of human history; war, conflict and destruction repeating itself.