Darth Dawkins gets TRIGGERED & admits his argument is STUPID when Atheist uses it against him!
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- A clip from the debate between Darth Dawkins and Atheist Pastor where Darth gets OWNED! If you love (or can't stand) Darth then this is the clip for you!
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Why does DD bother with these simple minded fools.
I know right! It's not like his argument is stupid.....hang on a second.....
@@Hereticals
You are the simple minded fool I was referring to.
@@breambo3835 No you don't say! Damn I've never encountered a DD fanboy before!
@@Hereticals
Ive heard them all and not one atheist has had a defeater for any of DDs arguments. What you did has been tried many times and has failed. Do you have a defeater for any of his arguments or are you just into parodies as an argument.
@@breambo3835 He defeated his own argument - was kinda the point ;)
This was one of the best smackdowns ever! Poor old Darth with his tired script, had nothing but "you're talking over me".
Absolute brilliance, mate!
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it.
@@Hereticals it was perfect! Does Darth still have a man crush on you?
@@mattaustin2128 I think he's fallen out of love
I did not count, but Darth must have overtalked Chris at least 3 or 4 times before that complaint... just like other permanent complainers like Oakley, THEY can do the bad things as much as they want, but the FIRST perceived offense is immediate cause to derail the discussion...
And he talks over Chris all the time after the trinity "revelation" when he lost his patience. HYPOCRITE!
Speaking of talking over him, the "sorry, have you finished the question?" at 5:04 gave me a delightful belly laugh 😆
AP did interrupt him at 3:30, but if I were to use the phrase "the guy who kept interrupting," I'm pretty sure most viewers would consider that a reference to Darth/Dunkin'/Gary/whatever.
I wonder how he would respond if I were to ask him if I need to know how my car was built or need to know the history of cars in order to use my car or claim it's generally reliable? 🤔
That was *AMAZING* !
The absolute PANIC when he noticed he was arguing against his own arguments!
Not seen it yet, but i'm looking forward to it.
@@antediluvianatheist5262 Well, what did you think?
I find the jargon DD uses to be hilarious. "Ultimate and metaphysically primary." It sounds like some sci-fi story using scientific jargon that doesn't make any sense in the real world.
It's one of his main tactics. Try to 1) sound smart and 2) confuse the opposition.
It *is* sci-fi. What's remarkable is when people like that then insist that, because *you* don't go around talking about something being "ultimate and metaphysically primary," you alone must have a difficult time determining what is right and wrong. But because they have defined this nebulous thing that doesn't even seem to exist as "the thing that makes it clear to me what is right and wrong," they don't have any of that difficulty.
What is hard to understand about the words "ultimate" and "metaphysically primary" in a philosophical debate?
These are very well known words and not even close to jargon.
Theism vs Atheism is a philosophical debate between two opposing philosophical positions, you know that right? So using philosophical terms is not unexpected?
The reason why it sounds like gibberish to you guys is because of your Scientism.
You guys are focused only on science, and you guys irrationally dismiss philosophy as "just opinions" because you guys don't know anything about it.
Rejection of fallacious god claims isn’t a philosophical position; it’s a rational one.
It still baffles me how some people are just oblivious to the outsider test of faith.
Doesn't show his face or use his real name but expects people to take him seriously? Lol
What Darth doesn’t realise is that I am his Lord.
It was revealed to me.
Damn you I just tried to wipe a reasonable sized ant off my screen, I live in Australia so it's a thing
This was so good! Mate I've subscribed, I'm a fan. The moment where DD realised he had his arguments used against him and tried to get back into his script was so good! Imma go back and watch it again
Glad you enjoyed it. I know I did
This a (hypothetical) god-tier troll. 😂
This is gold. Presups are a waste of time and this tactic should be the default once one starts spewing their bulls**t
Thanks for doing this. I’ve always wondered how such a conversation would go :)
🤣
This was so beautiful!!! All of the sudden he didn’t think you were wanting to have “a serious conversation” & your arguments were stupid...go figure 🤯
He doesn’t take “HIS OWN” arguments serious...🤣
Is DD faceless or just gutless ?!?
I like to think a bit of both.
yes
Who cares he doxxed himself online lmfao, we can google every last piece of info about him that we want to lmfao i bet we could find high school pics of him maybe even his tax records
Who cares he doxxed himself online lmfao, we can google every last piece of info about him that we want to lmfao i bet we could find high school pics of him maybe even his tax records
Darth Dawkins sleeps in a dark room all his life - basically he lives a very Low-Life
Holy fuckberries! You beat him at his own game. That was hilarious!
Darth Dawkins (shitty alias by the way) should really acknowledge that he is absolutely wrong; both in life and to his parents who should deny his existence to the grave. He's argumentative and likes to control what isn't his to control.
I creased up at this.
It's hard not to
Well played by the atheist/Hindu.
"It's Devine revelation, prove it's not"
CHECK MATE.....mate!
major deities include Vishnu, Lakshmi, Shiva, Parvati, Brahma and Saraswati.
Who does Darth Dawkins think he is anyway? He always acts like he has high expectations for how his debaters should behave but Dawkins himself frequently displays some of the most childish, narcissistic antics a grown man can possess! Is he just an Atheist himself, trolling to make Christians look bad?
Atheist Pasto points out he fatal flaw of presuppositionalism. It's invalid by the fact that Judeo-Christianity can be substituted with any other worldview, and can be defended on the same grounds.
if you took the word "and" out of the english language, darth would be screwed.
Darth tasting his own foul recipe............... and then complaining that it tastes like shit
Darth is always the only one talking and asking all the leading questions, but then claims he's being interrupted if there's a clarification being asked. He's so full of himself. Lol
NPD = Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
3:30 I assumed he has finished. He takes a long time to explain something that was understood.
That was as comprehensive an exposure as I've seen of the fact that DDs "argument" is simply a series of unproven assertions. It helped that the moderator - at least in this excerpt - kept a tight leash on things, since DD heavily relies on tactics that would never be allowed in anything like a formal debate.
Can we please have a serious, professional conversation about my imaginary friend?
How to call yourself an idiot and ignorant at the same time as soon oh I don’t know call oneself evolution false would do the trick.
How old is, ''Darth Dawkins''?
60 going on 13.
Darth didnt have his script for this. Smackdown deluxe
What's the me meaning of that "Evolution False" little banner on the right?
I think it's just a jab and a way to not show his face. He must think this triggers us lol.
@@alandgomez5905 That's funny. I just didn't know much about this guy before, and for some reason didn't seem to me like he would deny evolution.
@@maxxam3590 I mean, what kind of person would? He's a troll with the same presup script used over and over again.
I'm actually this vid right now th-cam.com/video/NCGajQRVCCM/w-d-xo.html check it out for shits and giggles or to get a jist of how idiotic he is.
@@maxxam3590 Right, the guy is Gary Milne and he thinks the screen name Evolution False is so funny because then atheists will say ‘evolution false’….ha ha ha got you good there!’ …. he has the mind of a 5 year old.
Here's something you need to understand...you're missing the underlying point. The ONLY reason this video had to be made was to justify your self-righteousness that Sye did well in the debate. I'm a short man. I take after my dad. I'm 5'7" As a kid, I was really short. If I made a 45 minute video called - 'Being short doesn't bother me one bit.' And then made 160 assertions of why being short doesn't bother me, I would clearly have a problem that I refuse to admit. This video is about one thing - attempting to justify a pathetic performance on the debate stage. I couldn't even care if Dillahunty did well or Sye did well. I truly don't care either way. But objectively watching the debate, Sye wasn't debating, he was preaching. Not only that, the 'She started it...' attitude demonstrated a lack of insight.
Bruggencate seems to have gone _very_ quiet these days?
Why is that? Could it be that he, along with so many others failed miserably to keep up to the "moral standards" that he insisted upon preaching to others? 😉😉
@@neorich59 Since the sexual allegation/incident surfaced a few years ago, he's not quite interested in the spotlight.
GOTTEM!
That's how I like to roll as well. Use Theism, against Theism. My personal Go to:
Judaism Rejects Jesus as Messiah/Prophet. They declare him a False Idol. And then I quote the Old Testament to back up my stuff.
This puts Christians into a HARD Bind. Because if they question/doubt/dispute Old Testament, then that opens the door to ignoring anything in Old Testament. If they accept the claim, then Jesus is False idol and that is a SUPER BIG No No.
Anti-Theism can be FUN when you know how to use Theism against Theists.
DD really hates a mirror held up to his own argument.
This was great
Every time I can tell evolution false knows he is losing because he goes into his your over talking me and your being rude and your not professional. Every time just watch.
Beautiful
I love it!
lol great job my friend/can we duo him
I reckon your idea of the dart board was a winner!
Sith Lord putting Darth into his place
Brilliant
If you're going to try and parody presupp you should probably understand the religion you're trying to use parody.
Hinduism at it's core is actually monotheistic when it's theology is understood appropriately. The atheist pastor comes in with a metaphysic that he is making up ad hoc. It's clear that it is ad hoc, because you're not following any school of hinduism you're just making stuff up on the spot to attempt to evade the Transcendental argument for God. If I were darth I would have called you out for using a fallacious rhetorical tactics like this.
The atheist pastor is asked if Vishnu is a manifestation of Brahman and says no, but in the earliest sources on hinduism this is the case. Vaishnavism is the school of hinduism that worships Vishnu, and they consider Vishnu to be identical to Brahman.
It's clear that the atheist pastor knows very little about what is actually being argued by a presupp. He thinks we are just asserting things, and that demonstrates that he does not know how transcendental arguments work. To use darth's argument the atheist pastor needs to show how hinduism makes his metaphysic, epistemology, and axiology connect and cohere with one another. Given that hinduism is not compatible with atheism, it would stand to reason that he does not believe hinduism is a coherent view of metaphysics, epistemology, and axiology. If he could give a version of the transcendental argument for hinduism, then it would necessarily follow that atheism is false. The atheist pastor should have used his own worldview and tried to show that it provides a grounds for intelligibility, then he would have defeated darth's argument.
The point of the argument wasn't to parody the presupp argument, but to use it essentially to get to divine revelation. I do know a bit about Hinduism (although very much surface level) and I do know that like a lot of religions their are a number of different interpretations/variations etc. and I clearly was not claiming to have (or demonstrate) more than a surface level knowledge of it. The points you bought up are probably better debated/discussed by experts, which in this case I am clearly not.
Initially the plan was to use a number of different religions throughout the conversation to demonstrate how they could all apply in the same way DD was using his Christian presupp argument, however as the conversation went on DD basically proved my point on the first go. I would also suggest that you keep in mind this is only one part of the discussion. The second part is also up and the third part is coming soon.
Darth and other presups are indeed 'just making stuff up', by highlighting a problem in epistemology and then claiming their god is coincidentally just the right shape to plug up the holes they perceive.
There's no actual account of how a god would do that, just the claim that it does, somehow, by their definition...
Hindus, real or otherwise, have just as much right to the 'arguments', assertions, that he helps himself to.
Let's say a being existed, with the memories and experiences of being the ultimate creator god, the foundation of all reality, the transcental 'isness', absolute and eternal. How could it know it was not just deluded, a brain in a vat, merely the simulation of a god in a computer, or itself just created five minutes ago by a genuine omnipotent being?
If it were possible to somehow distinguish between the feeling of being omniscient and actually being omniscient, how would that help humans, who clearly could not tell one way or the other?!
I can appreciate your disdain for what you THINK Darth is doing but you’ve missed his point entirely if you think the ad hoc Hinduism model you offered was remotely similar the the Christian perspective he presents.
His argument is flawed as he is asking for a knowledge claim that he or no theist like myself can meet.
Simple point, Darth claims to know he is right. Certatude, which by definition would mean he would have to deny faith in god.... which means if he is right he is going to hell..... Faith is trust, not certainty and I dont know is a valid answer denying nothing
@@drussthelegend2046 how can you deem as trustworthy a god that you aren’t certain really exists?
@@LarryCastle
No human can be certain any gods exist*. Even if one actually did and was actually omnipotent.
In fact, if an omnipotent deity existed, even _it_ could not be certain about anything either. Because it would know that it could have been created five minutes ago with all its present memories and perceptions, by an omnipotent being (or computer programmer).
* Outside own minds.
@@mattsmith1440 are you certain that no humans can be certain that Gods exist? Are you certain that even an omnipotent God could not be certain about anything?
@@LarryCastle
If a god is defined as being all-powerful, what possible demonstration of power to a human could justify belief in the claim?
If one existed, could an all-powerful being create a being that has a mistaken belief, such that it thinks it itself is all-powerful?
Never forget, Gary: Nobody loves you.
One of the more satisfying "reverse uno cards" I've listened to.
Would have been more satisfying if he wasn't oblivious to why it was exactly perfect
The Atheist is just being a moron. He has no idea how the Trinity works, he wasn’t even there to have a real conversation just troll.
Omg Darth broke so badly! He couldn't run his script and got pissed real bad. Loved it!
What a surprise. DD isn't brave enough to show his face.
I'm sure it's so no one can see him reading off his scripts.
@@bposs98it's probably just because he has a bad face. No one who watches him really cares about his lazy, vapid scripts.
@@bposs98
He can read? 😳😳☻️
My congrats to Jay for not completely cracking up.
He did well!
DarthDawkins.exe has stopped working
There has been a critical error and evolution false needs to restart
I dunno, that would imply it was working at some point - lol
@@tommoore6356 Doesn't have to restart. I say we leave it off!
Unboot
He dragged Darth into the deep end and drowned him.
Darth is rhe ultimate crybully
Amazing, darth said that the trinity _cannot_ be what is ultimate.
Also the Freudian slip at 8:24 - I was over~... you were over talking me
This is BEAUTIFUL. Bravo, Chris, bravo.
I aim to please :)
Well played. 👍
Thank you good sir!
Gods damn, that was the greatest Darth takedown I’ve seen. Total destruction, and leaving him sounding so humbled and hobbled at the end there. Made my day.
If the Hindu triad is incoherent, then the christian "trinity" is equally so. It's great when someone takes Darth's argument(s) and throws it back at him. When that happens Darth usually begins spewing insults, and then either runs away or launches into a new word-salad that's absolutely meaningless.
That debate lead me to subscribing to your channel if I remember correctly. I think you did well, especially considering Darth's well known smear tactics.
Glad to have you here :)
The triggering.... Oh I really enjoyed that... Well done
I really wish he had a camera on just so I could have seen the confusion and rage on his face!
Bravo, one of the best discussions with the anonymous bully Darth I’ve ever seen
I watched the whole conversation. It was so sad. I wished you said to DD "ok well let's reverse it, I will say that if you are not an atheist then everything you say is not coherent and nothing you say matters." This is literally what DD seems to say to everyone. He has one card in his deck and that card is "if you don't have the same beliefs I do then nothing you say and nothing you do matters".
When he doesn't like the way the conversation he starts crying...
Hahaha this was really funny. Darth recognised that the argument was invalid but could not come out and say it because it's his argument! Love when this is done well great job
DD is clearly a troll
You’d think right? But when you look into it you start to realize he’s just really really sad and religion is all he has so he’s willing to defend it even if it means lies on top of more lies, even if he’s telling them to himself :/ kinda feel bad for him
It's clear that when they were both muted and being given a "talking to," that Darth is not actually in this to listen or have a conversation. He just kept on talking not listening to the moderator. He has a script that he's going to use by Gawd, and nothing will deter him.
This. Was. Brilliant! Jay is my new God. Ultimate and Absolute.
You got played Darth! LOL! Your script failed you epically!
🤣😂😆
One of the rare times the moderator actually made dd shut up and let his opponent talk. I love this Atheist Pastor,really had a great approach. 😅
You have revealed that DD has no sense of irony, which reveals his low intelligence and lack of a sense of humor, to go along with the total absence of the self-reflection gene. He is enslaved by his obsession and unable to live life as a normal person, hence the unending troll game.
You gave the only answer Darth Dawkins deserves (I paraphrase slightly) "I do not take this serious cause YOU have not had a single serious conversation in your time on YT". Absolutely agree with that, he lies, distorts words and citations and uses all the fallacious tactics in the book to NOT have to admit that he has nothing to show for all his presupposed certainty... that is not worth a serious, honest debate as one party will never be honest about their arguments in that discourse, come what may.
You really can't have an honest debate with him because he doesn't engage in them. That's why I treated him with the same level of respect he treats others.
@@Hereticals I agree, I have had a number of run ins with Darth. As a theist, his position is utterly dishonest as he tries to ram his FAITH down someones throat as a fact.
To try and justify a position held on faith is by definition illogical.......
Another fun thought, for Christians the req to get to heaven is grace and faith, Darth shows certainty, which by definition denies faith (cant have faith in something you are certain about)
That made my day.
Glad to hear it. It was a hell of a lot of fun!
Atheist Pastor Poor Gary sounds so immensely unhappy and hollow. I sincerely feel sorry for him.
@@simonwj6404 I used to but the way he acts he really brings it on himself
Atheist Pastor yeah, fair point
The funny thing I've realized recently is that DD insults other people with things that often apply more appropriately to himself than their intended target. So it's funny to see him up against his own strategy, since any insult he chooses will be directly pitted against himself as well xD
LOL. to hear little Gary Milne go silent when asked for evidence for the god he thinks is real. That should go on his tombstone.
His entire strategy is "I'm right because I assume I'm right". Well so do toddlers. Which explains Gary Milne quite nicely.
"If you wanna present me with evidence, I'll convert you on the spot" ;-)
That would be interesting.
Atheist Pastor is the only person I’ve seen effectively deal with Darth Dawkins.
Pinecreek just asked him about Jesus and that infuriated him. Alex Malpass actually had one of the best discussions with him that I've heard.
Shannon Q did well.
Watch Shannon Q point out the fact that he has a script. It's fantastic.
Hehe enjoyed this one
So did I....maybe a little too much!
Bloody good stuff, any person who gets under Darth Gobshite skin has blood that's worth bottling. Well done mate.
Strewth, Chris! This is gold! 👌🏼
Cheers Pasta Mike
Someone needs to make chipmunk version of Darth losing it
I love it!!
These preseups hate it when their little dog and pony show gets derailed.
Gary was telling AP the Hindu trinity CAN NOT BE, then realizes those rules apply to his Christian trinity. immediately throws a tantrum.
Good work. This is honestly the best way to approach DD.
I've analyzed his argument after listening to it a few times.
DD likes to set up the argument where he establishes this exclusive and completely fabricated reference class where only his notion of God applies. He then asks loaded questions to pigeonhole the interlocutor into suggesting otherwise, only to then reject what they said and call them incoherent.
If the individual provides cogent answers to the questions somehow, he will then continue to muddy the waters by asking additional loaded and philosophically obscure questions that he deems necessary to pigeonhole his interlocutor again, repeating the process.
If they give answers that detract from this process, he declares them to be dishonest and trolls and refuses to field questions. When he does allow questioning he provides nothing but trite responses that do nothing to elucidate his reasoning (because he hasn't got any).
He is COMPLETELY uncharitable in discussion, refuses to find any common ground, and labels anyone who gives him the slightest challenge trolls.
The most dishonest interlocutor in history, and this is a timeline that includes Sye Ten Bruggencate. Sye is downright lovely in comparison.
EDIT. Thinking about this makes me realize that DD, in a completely sickening way is fascinating as hell. The only analogy I could think of that compares to the experience of listening to him is looking upon the Elder Scrolls for too long. The man should be labeled an SCP and locked away somewhere bu the Foundation. It's that bad.
You forgot his primary defense mechanism: going meta, AKA 'arguing about the style of the argument' in this case, complaining about being overtalked, when he does it to everyone else.
DD is a sad baby with no balls. It's tragic.
Yea, and there used to be a video up, it was only up for maybe one day, and it was one of his family members talking about gary milne aka darth dawkins, this was the full quote "gary is a very mentally abusive person, he would at times berate his own mother for questioning the bible saying some of it doesent make sense, and at other times would ALMOST get physical with his mother cuz she wouldnt take his word as law about god" do keep in mind i dont know if this is true but it sure fuckin does sound like some shit gary would do.....
Oh, he is definitely an interesting case. A case study, even. The reluctance to show his face or name, the clinging to a script like an infant's security blanket, the exquisite sensitivity, the readiness to engage "fight or flight" when challenged....I'd suggest that deep inside, Darth is a frightened little boy
"The Thunder god of the hebrews" LOL
The last sentence is the most telling and has no possibility of the dishonest poltroon that calls himself (currently) DD answering. “Would you like to present me evidence for your (circular) assertions’”
Poor sad little Gary Milne humiliated by a bogan !
😀 😃 😄 😁 😆 😅 😂 🤣
Darth tasting his own foul recipe............... and then complaining that it tastes like shit
Darth is the guy who handles dog poop all day then tells other people they smell kinda farty.
This was quite enjoyable
I know what talking over somebody is.
But what is over talking somebody?
Very much enjoyed that, the moment DD realises he is rejecting his own belief models it sounds like he is making his own dance remix he is back pedalling that fast. Just goes to show logic is an easy thing to apply to everyone else's arguments except your own, congratulations on executing a great idea. Looking forward to checking out more of your content.
Finally a good moderator jesus
He kinda looks like Jesus as well
Modern day debates needs a new moderator
Scroll down on bimbo erm Breambos comment to see someone get intellectually ruined.
Why are people still giving darth dorkins time and space in their lives. Dorkins isn't worth a single second of anyones time. He has shown repeatedly to be a utterly disgusting interlockiter. Dorkins is incapable of holding an intelligent conversation. When dorkins does not understand a response to one of his bullying questions, he proclaims his opponent did not understand the question. He is truly in infamous fool whom is worth no more of anyones time.
lol Gary accuses you of lying when he lies every time he says he wants any kind of conversation. I've seen a lot of his "conversations" and they fail any reasonable definition.
I’d love to troll DD.
It's the first time I heard DD. I nearly fell asleep listening to his boring monotone voice droning on. It was like being back in church as a kid. I only woke up when he started crying, that was hilarious :-)
Everytime Crushin' Carol says "ok," I fu*king cringe. You guys have amazing patience to tolerate Gary's scripted religious horse sh1t. Great job!
7:25 just love that part where Darth is so shaken ‘So so it just came to you then? taptaptaptap’ rapidly tapping his pen on the desk in fury.
this is one of the best encounters I've ever seen with DD(Gary), he was clearly out of his depth and not able to handle a person who could stand up to him and derail his presup bullsh&t.
I think technically Lord Krishna is the ultimate Supreme Personality of Godhead... He has many forms but they are all Him... He said so in my head lol... This was great.
Brilliant