BS/MD Program Overview | Getting Into Medical School at 18 | UMKC 6 Year Program | Med-Vice
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I got into medical school at age 18 through a combined BS/MD program and have never looked back! Getting ready for graduation and understanding a lot of what is involved in this pathway into medical school, I wanted to share my thoughts about the overall process and give you guys an idea of what it all entails so you can decide if it's the right path for you! More to come on BS/MD programs soon so make sure to subscribe!
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Thank you so much for your videos.they are really really helpful.
thank you this was really really helpful!!! i was accepted here and this helped me realize that i really want to attend!!
Congrats!!! If you have any questions about it before you come this fall let me know!
Did you do a lot of extra curriculars
Questions about anything? BS/MD, UMKC, Medical school in general or about my experience? Ask below, would love to do a Q&A at some point in the future!
When do you graduate from undergrad? If you take enough AP and college courses in high school, is it possible to not have to take undergrad classes while in med school?
@@kendall4281 Technically I graduated from my undergrad in my 5th year. I stretched it out as long as I could because I got a scholarship that gave me up to 5 years of money. It depends on the program. Some people had way more credits coming in than I did, but it doesnt shorten your time. It would just make it easier. Instead of me having to take 20+ hours per semester, others may have only had 16, a more normal course load.
@@jacobpereramd8094 Thank you so much or the information!
Hey I’m currently a sophomore in College but decided to take a break and rethink about some decisions regarding my academic path. Is it still possible for me to apply to this institution? I live in Kansas City, MO.
S P Yes!! The program also allows students with an undergrad degree to join the program midway through our second year. These students are there just to get their MD. So when you finish your undergrad degree you can take the MCAT and apply for these positions. Unfortunately, the combined BSMD route is reserved for people who have less than a certain number of college credits, so it depends on how much you have.
Thank you so much for the video! So informative. I'm a junior in HS right now and I really would love to attend this program.
Thanks for the kind words! And feel free to reach out if you have any questions about the program or process for applying!
@@jacobpereramd8094 Yes! I have a question actually. So I have a 4.0 gpa and am waiting for my SAT score to come in. I did many things relating to medicine so far; such as did a program with med students at Weill Cornell Medical School and I work with a vision care center in the summers. I volunteered to teach kids coding and I am planning on volunteering at a pediatric clinic this summer. I did lots of research as well. What else would I be able to do to get into this program. It seems really competitive. Thanks!
Brigette Belenky The program is definitely popular which makes it competitive, but based on what you are saying, you are definitely a competitive applicant! You’ve got the grades and some awesome experiences, I would just keep up what you are doing! UMKC really loves to see your commitment to medicine which you have a lot of evidence for with your research and involvement. That combined with your grades makes you a great candidate, just make sure you have some solid contacts (teachers, people you’ve worked with) to write you good letters of recommendation and I don’t think you’d have a problem getting an interview! Once you get to the interview stage it’s all about your personal skills and personality overall!
@@jacobpereramd8094 thank you so much. I truly appreciate it! This was a great help 😁
@@brigettebelenky9996 No problem! feel free to reach out if you have any other questions along the way
I've lived in a KCMO suburb city all my life. UMKC's BA/MD program is what I want to get into. I'm doing my best to make myself a good applicant. But I'm already in my junior year and I'm worried I won't make it. It's my number 1 choice.
You can do it! What makes you feel like you wont be able to?
@@jacobpereramd8094 My ACT and gpa are pretty good (4.278 and 31). But I'm worried I dont have enough extra circulars, leadership experiences, volunteering, and health related activities. I have some of all and am working on getting more. Just worried wholeistically my application wont be good enough.
@@Jack-bs4jt Let me just start by saying your scores are great! And you are right to be worried about extra curricular and experiences but the good news is you are a Junior! I didn't do much of this kind of stuff until my junior year either. The applications are usually due in november or october of your senior year so during the summer see if there are any programs nearby that will allow you to shadow, volunteer, or do other health related experiences. All they really want to see is that you have a strong interest in medicine and thats a great way of showing it! Something like a mask drive or volunteering at a vaccination clinic are great ideas in the midst of COVID!
You got this!! Good luck
@@preciousplaisime1229 thanks. I've submitted the application and am now waiting anxiously for the months to pass until I hear back.
Hi! This video was so helpful! Thank you so much! I feel like I don’t have many healthcare experiences, I only have some hours of online shadowing. I haven’t been able to find any in person healthcare workshops and my school doesn’t have many healthcare related activities. What do you recommend to improve this side of my application?
This is a really common question! Ultimately what the program is trying to get from this section of the application is proof of your interest and passion for medicine. So anything that helps convey that would be great! If there isn’t a school workshop or healthcare club, think about starting one! Doesn’t have to be super in-depth. I had 4 friends who were also interested in healthcare and we got our anatomy professor to be our staff sponsor. We got together once per week and just talked about current health related events. It shows that you are interested in science and medicine. And sometimes experiences that you may not think are “healthcare” can still really show your interest in taking care of others. This could be volunteering at a retirement community/playing games with the members. Same thing goes for kids clubs or facilities with children with disabilities. Many of them have scheduled daily playtime where they allow volunteers to come and spend time with them/read to them. These are great ways to show how you care for others which we know is just as important as your interest in science and medicine as a whole!
@@jacobpereramd8094 This is really helpful! Thank you so much!!
Can you please do a video on ACT, SAT scores , AP classes and stats video for BS/MD programs? Do students have to take AP exams to be competitive for BS/MD programs
Can definitely do a video on that! Short answer, you dont have to have any AP exams to be competitive. The only thing it will change is your schedule and how many classes you have to take. I only had 3 AP classes to transfer. I had friends with a lot more and I had plenty with 0 also!
@@jacobpereramd8094 Thanks a ton for your response! Our school district is very small and doesn't offer many AP classes. My son will have 5 AP classes completed when he graduates. His school doesn't recommend them taking AP exams. We are debating if we should make him take AP exams or not!
@@srivishnupriya It can certainly help and make your schedule lighter in the beginning because you have some of those credits out of the way but it is no way a requirement!
@@jacobpereramd8094 Thank you very much! Keep rocking!
I really want to attend this program but I feel like I don't have the extracurriculars that everyone else has. So basically in my state all of the hospitals aren't allowing people to shadow doctors or volunteer, and I'm not old enough to do research. Will this lower my chances of getting in?
There are lots of other ways to get health related experience aside from shadowing/volunteering in a hospital! Does your school have any organizations that you could participate in? Are there local colleges that put on science workshops for students? When we have situations like this where shadowing and hospital volunteering may not be an option, we have to get creative! Overall The experiences are important for your application, but with everything going on I think they would be understanding to the limited opportunities available
@@jacobpereramd8094 Oh okay, I'm going to do a summer scientist experience program virtually provided by my local children's hospital, and I was planning on working at a local pharmacy as a pharmacy technician. Next school year that I'm applying I'll be in a career center that is about health sciences. Do you think that is enough experience?
@@fatimayusf That all sounds fantastic! I had a summer workshop program and a few other small things but very little shadowing and hospital experience. They just want to know that you are excited and passionate about medicine so I think these are great things!
@@jacobpereramd8094 Thank you so much :)
fatima • of course happy to help! Feel free to reach out with more questions! I have some great videos in the next coming weeks all about UMKC and BS/MD programs so stay tuned!
Do you feel that undergraduate study is quite grueling at UMKC for the 6-year BS MD program? I heard that the dropout rate is very high for this program. Which major did you choose? Were you able to register for the courses that you needed?
The undergrad portions of the program can be quite challenging because you are on average taking much more classes than a normal college freshman would. This of course would be less if a student came in with lots of AP or transfer credits. The drop rate is high in the first 2 years because students either realize that medicine truly wasn’t for them or that the coursework was too much. I chose the liberal arts major pathway and had no issues registering for classes. Hope that helps!
@@jacobpereramd8094 Thank you very much for your detailed reply! This is super helpful!
At what point in Highschool did you start preparing to apply for this type of program? I would presume by freshman or sophomore year because you need to be cognizant of the requirements for the program. What was your Highschool journey like to get accepted into a program like yours?
I definitely had thought about the program since probably about sophomore year, but my prep really started in Junior year. That was when I really started thinking about the requirements and trying to get the experience that I would need for a good application. My high school journey otherwise was pretty normal! Only a couple AP classes and just tried to do well in classes and the ACT.
@@jacobpereramd8094 appreciate the quick response and the insight. I miss that campus. Have a few friends who went there, I used to visit back in Medschool. Good luck with match this year
If you don't mind me asking, how did you score on your SAT or ACT?
I got a 32 on the ACT. Did not take the SAT
Do you have any advice on MMI style interviews? Loved the video!
Absolutely! I actually have a video from a while ago on my channel going into detail on how to do well in these types of interviews. Go check it out!
Is there any programs you recommend for a sophomore in high school? Is it all independent or are there some programs in the umkc area that would look good for an application?
No specific programs that I can think of but ultimately you need to show interest in the healthcare field. For me there were summer programs local to me for math and science that exposed us to lots of things. So whether it’s something like that or shadowing, you need to have something on your application that shows your interest in medicine
Hey Jacob I have a question! I am very interested in this program, but was wondering if taking this route would affect job options or salary compared to someone who took the traditional 8 year route. I love science and medicine, but with the time put in and tuition costs I’d want to make sure it was worth it and not be less of a candidate for a job in the future than someone who did the regular 8 years. Thanks!
Hi! Great question. When you finish medical school you enter into the same match process as everyone else from all of the other MD and DO schools. There is no discrepancy as to which program you went to or how long it took. I matched into residency with people from all over the country and who did the traditional route. In short, it doesn't affect your salary or job opportunities, just saves you time and allows you to get started on your career sooner!
This program’s deadline for application submission is Nov1.Is there any benefit to submitting early or should I wait till maybe mid October so I can have all my volunteer activities in there
No benefit to submitting early that doesn’t weigh into the process. I would try and get as much experience as possible and just make sure it’s submitted before the deadline!
Hi Jacob
Thank you for the excellent info.
My son got Sat first time 1320, and second time 1500. Act cumulative 35. GPA unweighted 3.85.
He has some additional stuff like Resiling at county level, research and physicians shadow experience. Do u this, he will be competent for bs/md program.
Your son has done excellent academically you should be very proud! I think with the experience that he has he could certainly be a good candidate. As mentioned the review process is holistic and there are essays involved in the application so everything is important. Once you get to the interview stage that is the time to shine but based on just this he certainly has a great shot. His stats are definitely more impressive than mine were.
When applying to UMKC and other Accelerated MD programs, do we complete the Undergrad and Med school apps separately? And if so, are they both going to be available by early or mid-August on the UMKC website? And my school transcript includes our weighted gpa whereas UMKC is asking for my unweighted gpa, should I have my school officials convert it or what?
The undergrad application is separate from the medical school. They of course want to be sure that you would be accepted to the undergrad school before the med school. They are usually available in august since they are due by December and I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea to see if your school could include both weighted and unweighted GPA. I don’t think it would be a big deal I assume UMKC could convert it but I would recommend talking to your college counselor just to see if they could do that.
How many students does ur BA/MD program accept? Of which how many out of state students do they accept? What is the average ACT scores?
Great question! My program on average selects about 110-120 students each year, and we actually just expanded to include more for next year. Out of state but in the midwest (regional) is about 30-40 students and then out of our region is usually about 10 or so. Our average ACT is a 32. But the thing to remember is that this is an average! So plenty of students get accepted with ACT's lower than that because they look at all aspects of your application! For more info on all of the average stats and requirements, here is my schools page on that!
med.umkc.edu/bamd/admission-requirements-eligibility/
Thank you very much for the quick response. We live in SD which will be considered out of state. Hopefully students from SD have a chance of getting admission in your program.
They absolutely do! We have several people in my class from California and all over the country
@@jacobpereramd8094 Awesome. Thank you very much! Keep rocking!
Hello! I have a few questions. May I ask what your courseload was for all 4 years of HS? And were you able to get a 32 on the ACT on your first try? Currently, I'm a junior in HS and taking AP stats, will I have to take an AP calculus class either AB or BC in my senior year to be able to apply and be considered for this program as an out of state applicant from TX?
Hey Hayeon! During high school I took a pretty normal course load. I took 5 AP classes throughout my 4 years which isn't a ton but helped me out with some credits. My first ACT was a 32 but this was after I took a prep course. AP calculus is not required for this program, the highest level math class you will need will be college level algebra equivalent which I believe either AP calculus or AP statistics should cover! Best of luck in applying!
I am a rising senior and interested in UMKC 6yr BAMD program.I didn’t know before what I needed to do to get into this program so I am late to the game.Please advice what can I do now to increase my chances to get into this program.I am a Missouri resident.I do have clinical shadowing but my volunteering hours and are not a whole lot.My ACT is 34 and would have taken 7 AP by end of high school.
Also how can you be a scribe in High school because that requires High school graduation degree? Should I take ACT again and aim for 35 or 36 to increase my chances.
Your ACT is good and well above the average for a student accepted into the program. Scribing is hard to get into as a high school student but any healthcare experience or shadowing will help you. Some cities have summer camps or workshops that you can join to show interest. Ultimately the more healthcare experience you have the better but academically your scores are great! Applications will be coming out soon if they aren’t already so make sure you spend time on your essays too!
Thank you so much for answering my questions.I am wondering if I could do BLS ACLS certificate as a high school student to increase my chances
@@zanmar6764 you could do BLS but I am unsure if it will increase your chances. ACLS is much more advanced and likely wouldn’t be available to you at this point
@@zanmar6764 if you want to schedule a private session where we talk about the program, your questions, and walk you through the interview process, reach out to the email in my bio section on my channel and we can set up a meeting!
Taking the MCAT for the first time *Embarrassing*: th-cam.com/video/TvYIGnhZlXA/w-d-xo.html
Hi Jacob! What do you think UMKC’s most important factor for applicants is? Would I have to work harder on my stats and apps because I am out of the region where they only accept about 10 students?
Nancy Chen I wouldn’t say that there is one specific thing that they look at, everything is looked at equally! The criteria is the same for out of state students so you don’t have to work harder necessarily but whatever you can do to put your best foot forward is great! Any healthcare related experiences or volunteering goes a long way in addition to good high school grades
How many b’s is still acceptable?
The average GPA that was excepted I believe was between a 3.7 and a 3.8, so definitely can have some B’s But remember that’s just an average so people get in with even lower GPAs than that