15:40 I thought up something interesting regarding this title theory. There is actually another ending to this game. While the game is called "non-existence of you and me", I personally thought the good ending is supposed to be "existence of you and me" since in the main menu you can drag the "/" on the title and it will change the title accordingly. At the same time, the bad ending is "the non-existence of you", since we live while Lilith does not. This imply the existence of another ending, which is "the non existence of me", and just as the ending title suggest, it's a worse ending than when we off-ed Lilith 🥲 Yeah regardless, it's been fun watching you play this game.👍
heya, just wanted to let you know that there's a secret third ending, if you didn't know. it's basically where you, or the protagonist, says to Lilith that "You exist, but I don't want to exist." This will then cause Lilith to hug you while you continue to exclaim "I don't want to exist!", and after a few options, Lilith snaps her fingers and your conscious fades and you are presumed dead. I like to see this as you, or the protagonist, realizing that pure love does exist but the protagonist knows that they will unfortunately never experience it, so they lose themself to s**cide. If anyone wants to add or correct my interpretation, please feel free to do so. Anyways, I enjoyed this video keep it up :)
That ending kinda reminded me of an ending in Cyberpunk 2077 (major spoilers ahead) So in one of the endings of the base game, V (the protagonist). Allows the relic (or the consciousness) inside of his head (Johnny Silverhand or Keanu Reaves) take over his body temporality so he can take down Arasaka with his body and find a solution about the relic inside V's head. Sadly they find out that if he tries to remove the relic his inmune system would attack his own neurons and die because the relic was too advanced to remove it. Therefore V decides to pass his physical body to Johnny so he can live a better life. So, I assume that because the protagonist in The NonexistenceN of you and me was unable to live in this world, perhaps he allowed Lilith to take over his consiousness and let her live in this world with the body of the mc.
I think you misunderstood the good ending. In that ending you also choose to go out into the real world. The difference is that in the bad ending you kill Lilith, meaning you kill your guiding “pure love”. In the good ending you embrace it instead, and go out into the real world with a positive mind, accepting of yourself and the fact that Lilith is there to guide you, to help you overcome your troubles and go out into the real world. You understand that Lilith will always be there for you if you need her, to get back up again and keep trying out in the real world. In essence the bad ending is just you treating Lilith as simply a “delusion” and blaming her for not being able to go out, while it’s not her fault at all. You’re essentially labeling her as the “reason” that you’re not able to go out. You can see how in that ending, you go out into the real world believing it will be bloody and cruel, with nothing supporting you. So that’s how the endings differ. The bad ending is NOT the good ending for your mental health, it’s quite the opposite. Anyway, I hope at least some of this made sense and was able to clear up some things. Just to let you know, at that ending part where you’re waiting for Lilith to speak again, if you wait for ~23 minutes Lilith will speak again and give you her final words. There’s also another ending, the “neutral” ending. You can look up how to get it if you’re interested. Either way, great video!
I liked this perspective about the ending, that she will always be there in case you need her. For me, I believe the protagonist of the game just needed a little push to overcome it's fear of the real world, and that push came from Lilith's love to the central character. Although it might sound baseless, all of the little moments the player and Lilith expirienced together is a methaphor to apreciate and realize how important is to live our lives. Because in my opinion the purpouse of Lilith's existence is to help the protagonist to love itself and move beyond the negative thoughts he initially had before to just straight up dying because he had no motivation to live before meeting her for the first time. But I get Ironic's point of view because you will eventually have to let go of her and thus if you rely too much on her you would live in a escapist fantasy, an example would be us rely solely on our parents to live. At the same time, our parents will always be there in case we need them, just like Lilith will always be there in case we need her. But I wished there would be an epilogue where the protagonist is dealing with his issues in the real world with the help of Lilith. Anyways, it has been a pleasure watching this videos with your commentary and analysis my guy.
That makes a lot of sense. I was coming at it from the sense of Lilith being something like an imaginary friend, and just like that scene in Inside Out where Bing Bong fades into nonexistence, letting go of her is ultimately a sign of growing up Also, someone tell this developer to add savepoints next time please
shes pulling the fucking is this a bucket ending
ty for the game!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
15:40 I thought up something interesting regarding this title theory. There is actually another ending to this game.
While the game is called "non-existence of you and me", I personally thought the good ending is supposed to be "existence of you and me" since in the main menu you can drag the "/" on the title and it will change the title accordingly.
At the same time, the bad ending is "the non-existence of you", since we live while Lilith does not. This imply the existence of another ending, which is "the non existence of me", and just as the ending title suggest, it's a worse ending than when we off-ed Lilith 🥲
Yeah regardless, it's been fun watching you play this game.👍
Ahem IT IS THE EVERYTHING IS CAKE MEME OH GOD NOT AGAIN
At least it wasn't the cake is a lie meme again
Let's go, good ending thank you my men for getting the good ending
heya, just wanted to let you know that there's a secret third ending, if you didn't know. it's basically where you, or the protagonist, says to Lilith that "You exist, but I don't want to exist." This will then cause Lilith to hug you while you continue to exclaim "I don't want to exist!", and after a few options, Lilith snaps her fingers and your conscious fades and you are presumed dead. I like to see this as you, or the protagonist, realizing that pure love does exist but the protagonist knows that they will unfortunately never experience it, so they lose themself to s**cide. If anyone wants to add or correct my interpretation, please feel free to do so. Anyways, I enjoyed this video keep it up :)
That one might be the darkest ending then
That ending kinda reminded me of an ending in Cyberpunk 2077 (major spoilers ahead)
So in one of the endings of the base game, V (the protagonist). Allows the relic (or the consciousness) inside of his head (Johnny Silverhand or Keanu Reaves) take over his body temporality so he can take down Arasaka with his body and find a solution about the relic inside V's head. Sadly they find out that if he tries to remove the relic his inmune system would attack his own neurons and die because the relic was too advanced to remove it. Therefore V decides to pass his physical body to Johnny so he can live a better life. So, I assume that because the protagonist in The NonexistenceN of you and me was unable to live in this world, perhaps he allowed Lilith to take over his consiousness and let her live in this world with the body of the mc.
How we Can have it?
I think you misunderstood the good ending. In that ending you also choose to go out into the real world. The difference is that in the bad ending you kill Lilith, meaning you kill your guiding “pure love”. In the good ending you embrace it instead, and go out into the real world with a positive mind, accepting of yourself and the fact that Lilith is there to guide you, to help you overcome your troubles and go out into the real world. You understand that Lilith will always be there for you if you need her, to get back up again and keep trying out in the real world. In essence the bad ending is just you treating Lilith as simply a “delusion” and blaming her for not being able to go out, while it’s not her fault at all. You’re essentially labeling her as the “reason” that you’re not able to go out. You can see how in that ending, you go out into the real world believing it will be bloody and cruel, with nothing supporting you. So that’s how the endings differ. The bad ending is NOT the good ending for your mental health, it’s quite the opposite.
Anyway, I hope at least some of this made sense and was able to clear up some things. Just to let you know, at that ending part where you’re waiting for Lilith to speak again, if you wait for ~23 minutes Lilith will speak again and give you her final words. There’s also another ending, the “neutral” ending. You can look up how to get it if you’re interested. Either way, great video!
I liked this perspective about the ending, that she will always be there in case you need her. For me, I believe the protagonist of the game just needed a little push to overcome it's fear of the real world, and that push came from Lilith's love to the central character. Although it might sound baseless, all of the little moments the player and Lilith expirienced together is a methaphor to apreciate and realize how important is to live our lives. Because in my opinion the purpouse of Lilith's existence is to help the protagonist to love itself and move beyond the negative thoughts he initially had before to just straight up dying because he had no motivation to live before meeting her for the first time.
But I get Ironic's point of view because you will eventually have to let go of her and thus if you rely too much on her you would live in a escapist fantasy, an example would be us rely solely on our parents to live. At the same time, our parents will always be there in case we need them, just like Lilith will always be there in case we need her. But I wished there would be an epilogue where the protagonist is dealing with his issues in the real world with the help of Lilith.
Anyways, it has been a pleasure watching this videos with your commentary and analysis my guy.
That makes a lot of sense. I was coming at it from the sense of Lilith being something like an imaginary friend, and just like that scene in Inside Out where Bing Bong fades into nonexistence, letting go of her is ultimately a sign of growing up
Also, someone tell this developer to add savepoints next time please