5 Reasons Why Some People HATE Heavy Metal
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After talking for far too long about other things, its time to play a bit of a devil's advocate. why do some people just hate or fear metal? Its time to examine some commonplace reasons. Rate, Subscribe, Favorite and Share! It helps a lot!
I hate it when people call heavy metal "devils music"
Same
By your profile picture, it looks like you cut your wrists daily no offense 😂
+Josh Houston No because I enjoy life
William Anuschomper Get over it
+William Anuschomper wtf are you talking about? he was just saying he hates when people call metal "devils music".. like when pastors in churches preach to the congregation and speak of heavy metal and say it is music of the devil. And you disagree with this? So are you saying that you think metal is solely devils music? or maybe you were replying to the moron vinyl and not Josh. Sorry but it is just confusing and I don't see how someone can disagree with someone saying they hate when people call metal, devils music.
I can't respect people who say they HATE metal. Its never for a good reason, I don't understand why anyone would go as far as hating metal. Its not like its all over the place chasing them around the same way rap and pop music does to us.
+macaron3141592653 It's one thing to promote something and another to bad mouth, make fun of, ignore, and insult something. It's clear what we all want to do
macaron3141592653 And I don't like people like you. I don't like metal but I never insult or make fun of metal music? I just don't like it. IT'S NOT FOR ME. Just like how [insert your least favorite music genre] is not for you. And you don't need a reason why you don't like it. I can see why people enjoy metal music but do you need to force your taste of music to people who don't like it? Are all metalheads this easily triggered and can't accept different opinions?
Nora Farron He means people who are intolerant beyond compare and bash anyone who disrespects someone for being a metal fan and just flat out says the most rude comments about it. Those people I can't stand. I am fine though with people respectfully disagreeing. I only hate people who act completely rude towards metalheads because most often I never disrespect the music anyone personally enjoys. (in fact I enjoy most music) It all boils down, for me, by the person's attitude. They can disagree, but I don't find it very mature when they go on to say people who enjoy rock/metal are "retarded", "unintelligent", or something other along the lines of insult. I don't like country or pop all that much, but I don't ever get up in anyone's face and insult them for enjoying either. I am completely fine if that attitude is the same towards me. Don't like metal, fine, but when someone attacks me for it then I think it's not courteous or respectful at all.
Metal would be great if it was all instrumental and if people didn't like shit metal that was either too slow or too fast to where it all ends up sounding like pooping noises.
A musical reason isn't a good reason? Like there's never been a good metal singer, ever. Just because you think there is doesn't mean I do. To me they all are subpar cocksuckers.
What really bugs me is when people (usually older people like my dad) say that metal isn't music, it's just "noise." That's just really intolerant. I don't care much for modern hip hop or electronic music, but I admit that it's music, a form of art, and not just noise.
To be fair most metal are really just loud, aggressive music and it doesn't help that there's either growling, shrieking, squealing etc. and some people just can't stomach it and it's really irritating to their ears.
Heard the same "arguments" in the seventies. I was just listening to "a wall of sound", it was claimed.
As a huge fan of hard rock and some metal..I believe your dad is just expressing his dislike..It probably "sounds" like noise to him...I like a lot of music but there is a fair amount that I do NOT like..I could describe some of it as noise to me...Music is like food...If I dont like a certain food it doesnt mean that I disqualify it as being food...Nor does it mean there is something wrong with me for NOT liking whatever it is..I think hip hop music and/or rap music is more than awful...But hey, if someone else likes it, knock yourself out !!
Darth Spidey lol dude i am early 40s and love metal so think it's a preference thing not age related
Jonny Culmer
Man, if you are in your 40s, early or late...You lived your teen years and/or your early twenties in the heart of the ERA of metal style music.. Damn man ?
I can save you 17 minutes of your life.
5 reasons why people hate metal:
1: The metalheads elitists
2: The metalheads elitists
3: The metalheads elitists
4: The metalheads elitists
5: The metalheads elitists
By the way, this is coming from a fellow metal lover.
But we ARE an elite race. It is really hard not to show our superiority over any other genre. (excluding rock)
***** Metal is awesome and has plenty of meaning. However, some of the fans are just complete cunts.
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***** You are entitled to your wrong opinion
EricMetalhead Don't get me wrong dude, I love metal and most fans are awesome but the elitists who think only one genre is metal and the rest are terrible, they're the ones who are the pricks.
the only thing more annoying than ignorant people hating on metal, are ignorant metalhead elitists who hate on other forms of music while also trying to get everyone to enjoy their music as well
My mom says heavy metal is devil music but she listens to Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Deep Purple.
"Black sabbath, Judas Priest and Deep Purple"
One of these are not like the other?
(Hint: Na, na na na, na na na, na na na)
fuck the soccer moms
+Puff NeilingKilöBurr Rogers DP had a lot of influence on metal. They were pretty heavy for their time.
I know, but I'm much more familiar with the "smoke in the water" type of dp
+Potato_lord567 take this w
The reason why people hate metal is because they only think of Black metal when someome mentions metal. I love heavy metal, power metal and some nu metal but I just can't listen to Black metal
I hate metal because no matter what genre it is I have all of these little snot-nosed assholes telling me it's the best thing ever since fucking ever and then I can't even listen to it for more than 5 fucking seconds because once the singing comes in it kills it pretty much every mother fucking time. Period.
@@leviathan4864 you are part of the problem. Well, you sound like a troll, actually.
They think it all sounds like death metal or grind core, and then they think they all do the same things as black metal people do. “Oh Metallica, you mean the band that burned down the church?”
great video but your shirt is inside out
+Peteris Rudzitis ~ ssh that's the clean side . . .
+Peteris Rudzitis Hahaha I didn't even notice. But then again... Of course I wouldn't that's a frequent problem for me.
***** Hell yes!
LOL
Maybe it was on propose. Maybe he has a punk heart.
Well us metal heads want to hear it loud right between the ears.
Damn right
Dude Ur so good metal head and rock is good brother heavy metal is fuck yeah good shit brother
I love metal. The only thing I do not like about metal are some of the other fans who like metal. They can be more judgmental than someone who hates metal in some cases. I listen to heavy metal and metalcore and what not and I get made fun of because the bands I like aren't "Br00tal" enough. Just because I don't like bands like Cannibal Corpse doesn't make me any less of a fan of metal.
I hate when people categorize metal. Why does it matter what kind of metal it is?
Hollow Naruto Well because there are softer things like metalcore, but then there are things like technical brutal metal and they are completely different, people just like to know how heavy it is
***** Yes, but both metal and rock have changed a lot since then
I just don't like when I (and other people) get judged for liking a different form of metal
I completely agree. I feel like a lot of metalheads are swingin their dicks in a manliness contest.
I get made fun of a lot for liking Parkway Drive. I also get called a pussy for calling Suicide Silence one of my favorite bands.
nbd They're just macho idiots.
lmao too loud? it's called turning down the volume
Car Guy
??? dude i don't know what fucking "db" means, lol. save your nerdy ass explanations for someone who gives a fuck.
Car Guy
you still bothered to reply, huh? you're funny. comment deleted =)
reported for harassment as well.
Car Guy
go on, keep replying! LMAO...
My friend who listens to Tyga and Lil Wayne said I have a bad taste in music after he saw heard Black Sabbath. Can anyone reading this give me a reason not to snap my neck?
Idk wat race you are but black ppl listion to rap white ppl rock I'm black and don't listion to that devil music!!
Tyga is garbage but Lil Wayne has had some very very solid albums
+Anthony yeah rap tha best
Just slap his neck.
I'm white and my top 2 favorite genres are rap and metal, they both have two different kinds of badassery. Metal is just super aggressive and demonic etc, pure evil and destruction while rap has swag and is cocky and gangsta.
i think the whole reason metal and satan are related is because satan is a rebel who wanted to have his own independent veiws on things. while metal is very similar to that. so i dont see anything wrong with embracing a revolutionist who rebelled against a tyrant who calls his people sheep. :D
It's not exaaacctly like that. You do know that Tony Iommi, the founder of heavy metal, was a devout catholic, right?
its not about one person . metal its self is satanic because it opposed the mainstraim pop media. like replace the word satanic with outcast and that is what i mean because satan means opposer. there will be a time when people will see satan as the revolutionist like promethues who gave man knowledge instead of this demon who wants torture people.
Sa tan Satan means adversary, not opposer. And actually if you look back to the hebrew where it is originally used it probably doesn't even denote a being as we know it. And also music is only a medium, and any message can be portrayed with it. You know there are a lot of religious metal bands? Doesn't seem so satanic to me. Now there are satanic metal bands, but I bet you could find the same in other genres. By your logic the real satanic music would be twelve tone classical composition from people such as Alban Berg. That is opposed to mainstream music in the most extreme way, and way more so than metal.
Sa tan Satan means adversary, not opposer. And actually if you look back to the hebrew where it is originally used it probably doesn't even denote a being as we know it. And also music is only a medium, and any message can be portrayed with it. You know there are a lot of religious metal bands? Doesn't seem so satanic to me. Now there are satanic metal bands, but I bet you could find the same in other genres. By your logic the real satanic music would be twelve tone classical composition from people such as Alban Berg. That is opposed to mainstream music in the most extreme way, and way more so than metal.
Sa tan you won that likee
They found out about our secret meetings! We're doomed!!!
John McLellan LOL
we also gotta hide the cookies
Swag=Secretly we are gay
If they're trying to keep it a secret they aren't doing a good job.
Number 2 and 1. I'm a Christian, who listens to metal. Christian Metal too. Nuff said.
I'm not a believer,and i listen to christmas carols and fables.And?
Same here bro.
Raphael Herter tom araya was christian are you telling me slayer doesnt belong in metal or do you just really feel the need to bash others for something they believe in that has nothing to do with their music taste
@@Misantroph0 Look at yourself you pig I am a Christian and listen to EXTREME DEATH METAL didn't God say that if you believe in him you will go to Heaven. WHY DO PEOPLE FORGET THAT ALL THE TIME!?
@@Misantroph0
My 6 sense say that you listen to black metal and you watch the thulean perspective.
Let me break music down to a science. Music, (which is sound) is a stimulus. One like any other that releases chemicals in your brain, that makes you feel a certain way. So whether it be, rap, dubstep, techno, metal of any kind, country, gospel, etc. it doesn't matter. Everyone has different stimuli. We all feel differently to things. So instead of criticizing others for what they find good in music, just appreciate the fact they are feeling that stimulus from what they listen to cause it releases the chemicals and makes them feel good. So let people play what they like, and let others enjoy it. Thank you.
Right
Art is much more than hormone hits, Art was and is one of the most important and essential human inventions and it's not because it "makes us feel good" either
Great video. As soon as you started talking about how a lot of death metal has deep content underneath the distorted vocals I immediately though CHUCK!!! I was pleased to see my opinions of Death shared.
Black metal band singing about how they hate other black metal bands: Black Black metal
theres is no need for any hate or negative feelings towards any genre or style of music, nothing wrong with not necessarilly liking it, but saying it sucks or you hate it is just lame, im a huge dubstep fan, i breath dubstep and other electronic music, but on the flipside i also adore metal, soul and hip hop/rap, hell everything from renassiance to todays pop is all welcome in my playlist
music itself is an art form, its a mode of self expression and emotion, its whatever you want it to be c:
+James Staten the only thing about mainstream pop I don't like is how a majority of pop artists basically just from for a label and don't actually have anything to do with the music they are known for
I.e they don't all write their own material, but there are plenty of extremely talented pop artists out there at the same time
though same applies to any genre
front for a label*
+James Staten I don't really understand what you mean, and no I'm not offended in the slightest
Hey you’re pretty cute. HMU
Michael BLACK “hEy YoUrE pReTtY cUtE hMu”
i love metal all metal deat metal black metal heavy metal metalcore nu metal en i am christian i go to church but i like lamb of god marilyn manson devildriver and more
+Shaporrûrz Sooo because he has the right of free speech and a choice to believe in truth, you're calling him scum? Very juvenile
***** Ha ha i don't have a trinity as my logo.
+Jäger Braun careful not to cut yourself with that edge of yours son.
Heavy metal is real music. It requires talent.
+Brandan Schild Talent of what? Making people seem like they are in a mental hospital and their ears are ringing and heart beat rises? Yes that is talent of some sort
+Car Guy ~ your view of metal is really warped! i should know ive been listening to metal since 1987. classical since 1984. rock, funk and soul since 1985/6 and zappa since 1989. All music takes talent to do properly.
Also, music that makes your heartbeat rise? Blasphemers! how dare they create such a thing!!! . . .
all music takes talent...
bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax.. have very complex notes and their not easy to play. Trust me it takes talent, times and tremedous effort if you play an instrument for example... just listen to Holy wars by Megadeth I can't play and sing at the same and the song is 6:33 long.. one of the most diffucult songs to play.
Car Guy you obviously don't even know what heavy metal is. You probably listened to one screamo song and generalized the whole metal genre you clown.
Oh for fucks sake people. Metal is tribal with tribal beats,we humans like tribal beats and effects.We need to listen to things that sound powerful. Its that simple....
And for those that say my comment is off subject, you're right.
Metal isn't nearly as tribal as techno or dance. It has more classical influences than tribal influences. Tribal to me is a base line and a melody. Metal is (in general) far more technical than that.
I love metal. However, I'm not one of those guys who worships it and put it above every other type of music. When it comes to metal, I usually listen to the experimental, avant-garde and progressive side of metal, but I like bits and pieces of some of the other subgenres as well. What I can't stand about some metal fans is how narrow minded some of them can be. They think that only metal (and rock) are the only forms of music that are worth listening to and everything else is lame. There is plenty of good music outside of metal and rock, you are just too close minded to see that. There is crappy music in metal and rock, just like every other form of music. If it sounds good to me, I'll listen to it. I don't really label myself as a metalhead, since my taste in music is way too board for such labels.
my ex gf and her mom are extreme christians. well im christian too but not crazy about it. they started preaching to me about how im going to hell for liking Disturbed. we broke up that afternoon.
I don't think Christians are generally against metal. I think it's just the normal, people who aren't around it don't understand it. If you find a non Christian GF and her mom who have never been around metal and don't like it, chances are they will say "Doesn't that make you angry when you listen to it?" or something in that nature. I really don't see a lot of Christians against metal in reality. I see a ton of people in metal who are Christians.
***** tell me. what is metal then?
Disturbed aren't really A metal band.... what does it have to do with this????
***** Disturbed aren't satanic..... and they aren't A metal band.... only SOME of their material is CONSIDERED "nu metal" although the majority of their material is hard rock and alternate rock.
A lot of people also call "linkin park" A metal band but the majority of their material isn't nu metal either (and their nu metal material sounds nothing like earlier nu metal bands, neither does disturbed.)
*****
you dont get out much,have limited understanding of the English language or your just simple.read and listen to things a little more carefully and learn to assess what you hear before making a ridiculous judgement.
do you think black sabbath is satanic?do you think iron maiden is satanic?
if you do,your very confused and quite possibly confused about more than just bands being satanic.(you know,possibly about your sexuality)
People saying that metal is about Satan and demonic shit is the most bullshit I have ever heard. If metal's about Satan, doesn't it mean that mean rap is about stupidity?
The realest shit I heard was number 5 because, I work with hip hop artist so I definitely understand us being in the loudness era
Nice video! I have a few thoughts to add: I always saw simplistic music as a way to make money, because it's what the average person likes because most people aren't listening to analyze what's going on with the instruments. I'm part of a music community that deals mostly with the extreme styles (mostly death,) yet for all the brutal sounds, we have some of the most well-behaved crowds. It's partly because much of the crowd are musicians from other bands, and also because it's about a healthy release of energy. We're all about supporting the music scene.
I see death metal vocals more as another instrument, and am perfectly happy if I don't understand it all without a lyric sheet. At shows, many bands make up for this by the ways they introduce the next song. For clear vocals, there are always power metal bands too-sort of the 80's sound but upgraded.
The main attraction for me is musicians taking chances and pushing themselves to the limit. Most modern death, black, and power metal music requires technical skill and stamina, and experimentation helps too. I personally play an experimental bass that reaches the depths of human hearing (16.35 Hz {C0} at the bottom) and always come off stage covered with sweat from the way I play fast rhythms machine-gun style with three fingers. (The helmet and gear help too, heh heh.) My thought was always to make metal music that sounds good on a subwoofer system, and hopefully our forthcoming first album accomplishes that.
One last note: many bands stay away from satanic lyrics because it's seen as cliche. If they do, it's to tell a story. My favorite bands are all about telling stories: just look at the classic Iron Maiden song Rime of the Ancient Mariner!
Cheers!
I have the highest amount of respect for you man. You are one of the most calm and level-headed music reviewers I know of. I really wish people would strive to be more like you.
im a christian and I listen to metal and I get called a satinic teenager its just a part of life
stop being a satanic teenager and becoming a satanic young man
I love MEGADETH
And people have said that its demonic and I'm demonic!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And the stupidest thing is that dave mustaine is christian
"(...) Promoting the arts is not the devil's work. promoting the arts is showcasing that which humans are able to do and accomplish. They're able to accomplish many things including making beautiful music. Just because our music does not sound beautiful to you, doesn't mean that it's not beautiful to US. Not to mention, if you listen deeply into metal, you will hear a lot of beauty. However, ignorance is an ugly thing. And ignorance is something that I see in a lot of people whenever it comes to this genre" Beautifully put
I listen to Metal AND rap music and I think each have their different factors at work, I recommend Aesop Rock or Eminem as they both have really great/clever lyricism and especially with Aesop Rock the music production is not always simple.
no way i USED TO LISTEN TO ASAP AND EMINEM
Here's the thing man; And I'll make my commentary as short as possible but also cover in detail what I believe about this subject: The old school of rockers embraced bands that employed elementary levels of odd time signatures and did better than tolerate it. Take for example, Zeppelin. But here's my point... Music traditionally didn't employ a vocalist that performed from a place of aggression to the point that they sacrificed melodic aspects of music for the sake of distortion and volume. But metal did that. And several big bands of the folk and rock genre(which many people share a fondness of between genres), secured an importance in storytelling and the impact of a good story in music. I think what bothers a lot of new people is simply the fact that they aren't hearing a narrative. Specially if they can't understand it. So 2 things I would blame it on beyond the religious conflicts, are the intolerance for aggression in music and the research and interest you have to take in a band to discover what they are speaking about or trying to say. That's my 2 cents.
Interesting take
if its to loud, youre to old. the end.
Anvil said so in the early 80's! That's trad!
Fuck modern day rap, Fuck hip hop, Fuck pop.......ROCK ON!!
METAL IS JUST NOISE? Let me give you some Merzbow
In my opinion, if a song is only good when its played loud ... then it's not a good song.
i can only listen to Rock and metal . i can't stand stand pop or rap or any other music genre. but it's true that um bit more of a rock fan then metal as i also don't like black metal except for some bands .
You need to explore more music, then. Rock and metal aren't the only forms of good music.
Luke Zimmerman It's all personal preference. If you don't like pop or rap then you don't like it plain and simple.
Justin Greene Just like I loathe country music. I maybe like 2 country songs.
Justin Greene Yeah, but I'm sick of rock and metal fans bashing on everything that isn't rock and metal. It's okay to have personal preferences, but it's another thing if you think your taste in music is superior.
@@lukematt2000 We don't bash you YOU people are the ones saying we going to hell... WELL AT LEAST SATAN HAS GOOD MUSIC
I listen to metal for the same reasons I listen to all music i enjoy. Exploration of thought and hearing another persons point of view. Pink Floyd is a great example here. Their music was spawned by the philosophy of an existentialist thinker; questioning reality and finding purpose within it. Our species cannot define in absolute terms these following questions. Who are we? What is our purpose? Where are we going?
It is for this reason that I listen to music, read, and yearn for the company of others. It is for this reason that I cannot deal with the mentality of most pop, rap, country, etc. When an artist/artists conveys a message in their music that seemingly tells you ''I got it made'', ''This is how to live'', ''I got it all figured out'', ''look at all my money'' I change the damn station. Our current paradigm is that of servitude and worship of idols. ''We are barely out of the jungle folks'' -- George Carlin
No, we haven't figured everything out and when an inflated ego wants to showcase their bank account... all I can figure is that they've stopped growing and learning. Having a ton of money is no excuse, and it certainly won't buy you manners or intelligence.
My personal opinion,
No other music creates more energy, power and aggressiveness then metal...
If I want to go hard core heavy primal shit at the gym, I have metal on my playlist.
Chase Howard Well, some of my friends go crazy with 'trap music', even though I don't really like it. lol
jr4chargers yeah but metal isn't for dancing like trap.
So id say in general metal is a much more powerful workout tool then most other music.
Chase Howard
I guess, yea. When it comes to energy, though, a lot of rock songs have it. :)
+Chase Howard Exactly. But I bet you don't listen to metal in mornings, road-trip through italy or while watching sunset with your gf
Car Guy Well i try to. But my GF usually gets annoyed and shuts my shit off.
But you made my point exactly, metal is for going hard only.
I think that one of the reasons why people hates metal is actually some of the metalheads' actitude. I love metal but every time I attend a gig I meet people with a really stupid actitude, specialy in thrash metal gigs, I don't know what's wrong with these guys
It is Good that Metal HAS a Message ...
"In pop you don't hear a lot of excessive sound."
What...?
A very interesting video :)
It was educational.
And I share + respect your opinion.
Keep making those videos mate
I like this guy. He doesn't rant all too much and he isn't constantly swearing. Kind of a change for the better. I'm subscribing.
is it weird that i am a brony, but my favorite bands include Metallica, Nirvana, Death, Scar Symmetry, Slayer, Megadeth, Children of Bodom, Black Sabbath, Deicide, and Alice in Chains
Shut the fuck up you lonely goober creep.
This comment gave me cancer.
There's no problem with bronies liking heavy metal. I'm a brony & I listen to heavy metal.
Oh look, it's a brony who like heavy metal, how different.(throws bags of attention)
Is it weird that I'm not a brony and think most of those bands suck?
Dream Theater,Obscura,Opeth,Sleepytime Gorilla Museum,Maudlin Of The Well,Liquid Tension Experiment,The Faceless,Dying Fetus,Death,Atheist,Cynic and Devin Townsend Band..Some of my favorite Metal bands.
Honestly I hate growls, I used to think that all metal is about that, I knew the lyrics were good, but I hate growls so I only listened to hard rock - like metallica... at that time I thought that was hard rock... I was 8 OK?!
Metallica IS hard rock son.
Travis Brimstone It's thrash metal. I guess you could call it "rock" if you're using it as an umbrella term but definitely not hard rock.
It depends. 80s Metallica and 90+ Metallica are two entirely different bands. 80s Metallica is metal and put out four metal albums. 90s Metallica released a hard rock album, 2 blues rock / southern rock albums, a hard rock album that slightly merges into metal but is a shit album overall ( st anger ) a cover album full of rock covers, a light metal album, and an absolutely terrible rock album with Lou reed. Metallica have been rock longer then metal tbh.
Travis Brimstone
Oh, I see now. I was talking about their first 4 or 5 albums.
First four are indeed metal sir.
I listen to Rap (mostly Immortal Technique because he's actually intelligent), Electronic, Classical (orchestral), Alternative and rock... But I've been listening to metal music for a while now, and I have to say: Metal has made me perceive more emotion than any other form of music, not just anger, but emotions taken from the entire spectrum. Metal is awesome, not to mention genius ;)
My friends who are into bass song and Eminem think that heavy metal is all about cutting yourself and stupid things like that iv tried to explain this concept of what it really is but they don't listen and when they listen to it they get scared from it o respect there choice of music but they don't respect mine
Brown Sauce21 Yea, I know what you mean, though, I feel like there's people in every genre that go by the stereotypes of every genre. Like, I know people that think Rap/Hip-Hop is only for thugs, that like stealing, killing, and are addicted to drugs. People that think Jazz and Blues is only for old people. People that think Country is for depressed people and or for hill billies. All those are stereotypes, and I personally think they are wrong.
If you haven't noticed, I listen to a lot of different music genres. :P
+Brown Sauce21 Youll find eminem used to rap about slitting wrists...
to be fair, suicide silence, BvB, and bands like them are really emo and wrist-cutty
+Brown Sauce21 C'mon you gotta love eminem how much you like metal or not
+Car Guy I agree. Eminem is the only hip-hop artist I like. Though, stereotypes are still bullshit.
I used to have misconceptions before I started listening to metal and then I just started listening it and it brought light into my world and now metal is the genre of music that I listen most often and I also make and play metal on my guitar. I usually don't care to listen what ignorant people have to say about metal because they know nothing.
I would say the biggest reason people hate metal is this. Let's be honest here. A LOT of metal heads are elitist pricks. As a metal head I don't like a lot of other genres outside of metal. However some metalheads act like people who don't listen to metal are beneath them
+RargoFC19 you don't have the same stance as me lmao
Like the person who’s comment precedes yours. A lot of genres have snobs. I try to stay open minded. I do dislike growling vocals and death and/or black metal. I’ve never acquired a taste for it.
No just the ones online irl you'll find most are chill
music that is transportive, taking you places - be it metal or jazz or anything. That's what draws me into listening to it. I write doom metal songs about experience of mental illness, or politics, or fantasy themes. It's all good.
Even some of the "devil" bands are a bit deeper then what people like to believe. Yeah sure there are a few "devil" bands who simply do it for the shock value (Slayer for example) but there are some bands that have a legit philosophy behind the imagery. Morbid Angel come to mind at the moment. Whose message is basically about personal liberty and expanding horizons etc.
Dimmu Borgir is another good example. Black metal with profound messages of ones capabilities in controlling their own destiny, and messages of family and why one should protect their legacy.
I find Chuck's vocals pretty easy to understand. Stuff like that might have been hard for me to understand at first, but it was because I was overloaded by everything. I remember my first experience with Emperor, "What the fuck just happened?!" and I was hooked. It took a little a time before I went back to it, but the seed was planted.
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Thanks for doing that. That was very enlightening and I agree pretty much with everything except: yes, heavy metal, I mean THE heavy metal genre, or, rather, classic heavy metal (I mean, I heard "Enter Sandman" by Metallica on an OLDIES station, go figure) is typically embraced by the average Dick and Jane. However, when you delve into hard core, thrash and especially death and black these genres are of jungian philosphy, that is, they deal with archetypes and the subconscious, to put religuously, with the interplay of god and devil in every human being. A great example is Opeth, the archetype of light and dark, recently significantly diluted but still very much present, but you listen to "Still Life" and it's evidently jungian in that how the victim is the violator is the victim. That is really what is scary to people, to quote Slayer, have you ever wondered why it seems it's evil you're attracted to? (Temptation off Seasons in the Abyss, I believe). So people may SAY that they have a problem because this reminds them of the dark lord, when in reality this music and lyrics is like a mirror to their heart and it reflects EVERYTHING since in dark metal there is no taboo on any subject, everything can be and is discussed. People, especially children, are usually fed pleasantville and then it's such a shock when a loved one dies of cancer or is mugged or rape or even when someone you love does not love you back. Especially in the feel good no stress american society we live in we are thus raising a bunch of weakwilled individuals who think some force will always take care of them. Compare that to Slayer's lyrics in Sex Murder Art. On the surface it is a sick lyric of the way a cereal killer thinks but could this not also be how life can seem THAT brutal whereby "you're nothing...a subjected manekin...beaten into submission...raping again and again"? In that sense, metal is too REAL to people, real music for real people. And here is another reason people hate heavy metal. It reminds people of impermanence of it all ie death. Everything, including you and I, has an expiration date. The fear of the OBVIOUS is what drives people away but, and I hate to quote Phil Anselmo but he's right on when he sings "in time you see the darkness, but darkness is a friend to you EMBRACING ALL OF THE MADNESS" and what I believe it means is that if you take the time to befriend your demons they won't fuck with you so much because they'll start respecting you. In that sense metal has truly been my savior since 1991 as it helped do just that. I like your rhetoric, man, everything, not just metal. It always makes me think something we are slowly losing the right to in this country
Finally a sensible comment on this video.
Great video. The topics were presented well, and he knows what he means and definately gets it.
I love Heavy metal and I'm Catholic. BOOM!!! Mind= Blown
I had to find what worked for me. I'm not into the growly or screaming lyrics, but I am into the driving rhythm, virtuosity, degree of difficulty, grand melodic lines etc.
Once again, if you are looking for philosophical lyrics, look no further than Aesop Rock
There's thousands of bands with philosophical lyrics
Aesop Rock is a rapper, I was simply saying philosophical lyrics are not necessarily gone from rap music.
I see, he's in the minority though
ThePyronatorShow I'm not sure, he might be, thing is, I only listen to rap that actually has something to say, so I can't be sure.
No you're right he's incredibly philosophical with his lyrics. The majority of rappers lyrics are about materialism or sex. Which is rather sad I really enjoy music about something not just random talk about drugs/women. I call recent and most rap music thug music. It just causes people to use the worst possible grammar with their slang that I can't understand, by the way I'm a millennial so metal is "not of my time". Most rap fans are stupid.
i'm also a music major at juilliard, and i can tell you even though people probably think that we are absolutely immersed and obsessed with classical music all day, i listen to a ton of metal as well. metal, classical rock and classical are what i love, and there are other kids here that love metal as well. a lot of metal artists are directly influenced by classical composers. good metal bands have great compositions and utilize 4 part and 2 part harmonization techniques. bach influenced many.
I wouldn't go so far as to say you are wrong, and you actually have some relevant points, but one point you made, I can't let go. You think people should not buy into metal stereotypes. Stereotypes exist because they occur so often. If you want to be a truly honest person, you have to own your stereotypes.
***** You're kinda making it seem like you have to be that stereotype of the music you listen to...
jr4chargers Nope. That is not what I was saying. First, I am saying that stereotypes are not in themselves a bad thing. And about being an honest person and owning your stereotypes, I don't know how to be more clear, but I will try. If you are a country musician, and someone comes up and says, "I don't like the way country music sounds twangy." Even if YOU personally play country that ISN'T twangy, if you are honest, you just say, yeah, a lot of it is - and LET IT GO!
+jr4chargers stereotypes don't create themselves
Exactly my point. I like to listen to metal, but I'm not one of those Satan-worshipping black-metal (not all are, just some) listeners. I enjoy anything from vintage Metallica to August Burns Red and lots of bands in between. My mom says "it's angry and promotes rage and Satan," but she not as open-minded as some of us. I'm a God-fearing Christian who knows great music, and heavy metal has always been there for me. I find great messages through the music, and I always get a big smile on my face when a great guitar solo plays.
I just avoid black metal. That covers a good portion of the devil related content.
Agreed... but I'm not fond of heavy metal apecrap, it's unfortunately satanic and indecent and so noisy to my ears.
Also I might add that my parents are big classic rock fans due to being young in the 70's, and I was exposed to stuff like Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin while very young. I prefer 90's symphonic metal to the 60's and 70's classics; that's my dad's forte. I used to think I disliked rock and metal altogether. But it was really only a matter of time until my inner metalhead came out. :P
Pink Floyd all the way!! :)
Dude i agree with u mate my fuckin moms thinks all that shit she told she was like "Thats how u became half insane" i told her i was like "Thats not how i became half insane"
Reasons why I don’t like metal:
It’s NOT relaxing! Screaming ;-;
That was my reasons . Don’t hate on me for not liking metal . If you like metal it’s okay 😄
Yeah, so annoying AF!
Opinions can be different. At least you are not acting like a prick.
You’re the man dude, I love metal with a passion, I also love rap and hip hop, some main stream and a lot of underground for both. I just wish we could all respect each other’s sense of enjoyment (excluding those who hurt innocent people). Good stuff dude.
turn down metal who does that
Are there any female fans of metal out there? I absolutely love metal, though I love many other genres of music as well, both complex and simple. As a long-time fan of classical music, my tastes run toward symphonic metal (the stuff that comes out of Scandinavia) because of their classical influences and orchestral stylings. Good job on this video. I used to find metal hard to listen to because it was "noisy." Now that I'm older, I hear the intensity and complexity as a thing of great beauty.
I dont like Heavy metal because i dont like the music. Simple as that.
+dies200 I know right? it sounds like utter garbage. i prefer katy perry or taylor swift
Jimbo O'Malley I prefer Rock, Swing or "normal" Metal
+dies200 ~ ok . . . so what is "normal" metal please?
if "Heavy" Metal is something you dislike because of the . . . 'music'?
im confused . . .
or are you just into steel, brass and copper based items and its not a music reference?!!?
jedi fu
I like gallium but also i just dont like heavy metal. I dont like the style of music. I dont enjoy listen to it. Easy as that
+dies200 ~ Gallium is a new one on me so i looked it up. thanks for that little nugget! :)
I love the sound of certain metal bands, i think its thrilling! No other music makes me feel that way apart from certain classical pieces like verdi's requiem or carl orff's carmina burana. ITS AWESOME MUSIC!
Your difference of opinion is noted and respected but not necessarily understood, thanks ;)
I really fuck with your page because I love metal. I am a hip hop beat maker for artist out in Dallas Texas and I think this is amazing. Keep this up man, you're killin it. Take this W
1:40 Loud and clear are mutually exclusive. According to the Fletcher-Munson effect, louder sounds may seem clearer at first, when in fact, the'ye not.
#4 - Virtuosity and technicality are not everyone's cup of tea. Especially considering that vast portion of metal musicians use technique as the final goal to reach.
#3 - You may also notice that almost 99% of bands with unitelligible lyrics have extremely boring and repetitive song structures...Ending up being as bad, if not worst than, pop songs with sampled stuff. It doesn't really matter what the quality of the lyrics are if you can't make sense of them.
Also, the whole fast lyrics that are hard to understand, with weird words and all are the rap's equivalent of virtuosity and technicallity in other genres as the rest is sampled.
#2- As with pretty much every fan, they have the 'cult' or 'clique' elitist mentality, which gives metal a bad name. As opposed to the bands itselves, the fans are the ones giving metal a bad name. This applies to pretty much every oher genre out there, but metal seems to have the most vocal elitist fans.
Christian/Religious people "It's Satanic". That pisses me off for sure
Some of the Best metal in the World is really simple....
A problem I have with some metal fans is that "progressive" bands like Dream Theater, Kamelot or Sonata Arctica, which do happen to be more artistically insightful or melodic are always called "gay pop shit" which is contradictory. Pop music is known to be highly simplistic "fun" music with little depth behind its lyrics. Wouldn't at least calling bands like these "emo" be a more accurate insult?
Anyways, on the topic of it being too loud or inaudable growls, when you really think of it there's alot of punk rock bands that can be just as loud or louder than alot of heavy metal bands, like GG Allin or the Offspring.
I'm a music major. I enjoy listening to every genre, including metal. I just can't listen to it for too long because I have anxiety, and it makes my mind go JDFKJFKSMKDVJSISDOJSVKDL after a while lol. My mind is most at ease when I'm listening to calm, relaxing music. But that doesn't mean I can't like/appreciate other things!! Life would be boring.
Burzum has a lot of simplistic and repeated riffs, but it still manages to create an atmosphere which is appealing to some including me.
Put your music volume to same level and search and listen to these:
faul & wad ad vs. pnau - changes
suicide silence - any song
Now with which one was it easier to focus on other things and which one didn't give you relaxing feeling of nice outdoor space in a sunset?
+Car Guy
~ "focus on other things"? like its background music? Metal 'aint background music its too full blooded.
~"Suicide Silence" are just one band on one tentacle of a multi limbed monster.
~That song 'changes' is 'sunshine' music. its designed to make you feel happy and that kind of music everyday all day drives me mad! its ok in small doses but eventually its smiling repetitiveness is like a nail in my head forcing me to be a 'happy clappy chappy' all day everyday!!
~By the way, what you're basically saying is you should NOT listen to 'ride of the valkyries' you should ONLY listen to 'ode to joy' because its 'NICER MUSIC'!. which makes you 'one of them'! goodshow . . . ;)
Art is subjective and you really have to explore to find out how it connects with you. Same thing goes with metal. It is an experience where you have to read the lyrics ,understand the emotional connection and the artistic layers of the lyrics ,music and the overall experience.
I agree with you. I have heard some metal music where overall musicianship is so unique and beautiful that I just wished that it would have been even better (at least for me) if I could get it without vocals. That is why I admire some of the bands now a days that are mixing growls with other clean vocals. It make sense to growl when the message is aggressive and not when its a bit soft message.
People hate metal because:
1) Lyric wise is the most unrelatable music there is. Punk is political, hip hop about the streets, even pop is about dancing and having a good time. Metal is usually about fantasy stuff, horror, occultism, etc. Stuff that no one really gives a crap about.
2) The looks. Usually beer drinking fatties, with ill fitted jeans, some unknown metal band t-shirt, jackets and greasy long hair. Most unfashionable people in the planet.
3) Self aggrandizing bands that indulge in long boring guitar solos, drum solos, bass solos, etc.
4) Segregation. While early english rock n roll took a lot from Anerican black culture, metal gravitated towards a close knit of suburban white males and everyone else was an intruder.
5) The 80’s. Can someone think of a more embarassing phase in music than 80’s metal? While people still go back to 70’s and 90’s rock, the 80’s will forever live in infamy. Tue metal music of that era belong in the trash cans of music history.
6) The fans. The most close minded peopke there is, that were quick to mock bands like Soundgarden and Alice in Chains for not being true metal. Those fans today still mock the likes of Mastodon and Gojira as being sell out. Because apoarently you can only listen to bands with frontmen that are 60 something year old tvat have lost tgeir voice and look ridicolous playing this kind of music at that age.
And by the way, I love Sabbath, Metallica and Pantera; but thise banfs are just so aboce tge rest that tgey gave trascended the metal label.
You're wrong about the segregation. I'm a black guy who listen too metal. I have not experience any form of segregation from meatheads. Most metal heads are actually tolerable to other races as long they respect them.
I was just about to post a few comments when I came across yours, really can't add anything to what you've stated and fully agree. Have a great day.
Another reason people don't like metal music is because it's a style that doesn't give a fuck about political correctness. Not like rap, rap usually goes out of it's way to provoke, metal just doesn't give a fuck. Most metalheads strive to be individuals, have their own opinions and openly disagree with the parts of the system they don't like, and that scares a lot of people.
The biggest reason I've experienced is simply that people write it off without even listening to it and won't give it a chance. In order to show someone that metal isn't all screaming I played him "The Unforgiven II" by Metallica and within the opening seconds he said it was all screaming and growling and turned it off. People are happy with the simplistic crap that is played on the radio because they're not really music fans, so aren't interested in seeing what other genres have to offer.
i used to be the biggest metalhead ever. i used to hate on deathcore, pop, blah blah blah. i guess iv mellowed out. more into punk now
i mellowed out too.now i listen to fucking everything
S4ndpitTurtle I used to just listen to pop, rnb, dance etc now Im a ecletic listener and I like all
I've found that bands that use growls and screams tend to (for the most part) use these angry vocals to express an angry message, groups such as Slipknot and Slayer used this best. And then you take a band like Iron Maiden, Bruce Dickinson uses a very epic operatic style, and it fits their music that is supposed to sound big and epic.
I"d like to ask you a question... i like some metal..... but I have problem getting into it. mainly because every time I try to get into it It becomes a vanila white wash of what I call vanila metal.. I though blame the computer algarythem.... especially pandora..... it makes the metal sound all the same but I know this isn't true.. I already like nu metal and baby metal but I would like to get back into it a litrte without using the computer algaryth.. so that I can hear soem variety in the music....
any suggestions.
i'd suggest listening listening to Tenacious d,Led Zeppelin,Deep purple,Megadeth,Iron Maiden,Ozzy Osbourne. There are other Great Heavy metal bands but i wouldn't give you too much, but those are some.
I love metal and I also like rock, punk, reggae/ska, funk, and even fucking classical music, so this shows that metalheads don't hate every other genre
man I'm so sorry for my rant on the TOOL vid,I actually was so pissed I didn't get the message,im glad that ur one of us,that means the world to me,I subscribed to ur channel....and I hope you can forgive me for jumpimg to conclusions......spiral out brother of mine!!!!!
+James Hager Jr. Yo man, it's no problem! I'm glad to have you on board. Season 2 of 5 Reasons may come geared with a disclaimer before each video to avoid confusion. It's a pretty watched series so it may be beneficial.
Again, no hard feelings at all. Welcome aboard!
The trouble with volume wars and 'metal being too loud' isn't to do with the volume control on your stereo, it's the mastering of the original recording. Have you heard the retail version of Death Magnetic? It has no dynamic range at all, it's horribly compressed and messing with the volume has no effect and it still sounds horrid. On Master of Puppets, the quiet bits were quiet and the loud bits were loud, as it should be for full effect.
Ok, that's a reasonable statement, but that's why it's so great that it has so much variety, some metal bands never even use solos, and have clean vocals. Tool, for example.
on the sloppy muscianship comments my music teacher put it best.
there are musicians who play music for people, and musicians who play music for musicians. the simple and the complex.
I also think the music sounds better loud, unlike easy listening or softer music. That is why people tend to crank the volume IMO. And yea, I think more people complain about the guttural noise and growling in metal, where as the volume argument can be applied to all forms of music.
I've been listening to Metal for over 30 years and I have never herd anyone say that the culture of metal listening is a cult like activity. But I live in Northern CA and almost everyone here enjoys metal and rap alike to some extent. Same situation with Metal and Satin.
What I do d strange heavy metal fans complain about getting hate but when really they give the most hate to other generes
Also, death growls irritate a lot of people cos they are aurally horrible to them. It's hard to get behind the philosophical meaning of the song, when this is in the way. It's a totally reasonable reaction.
Exactly, Mr. Muffin. Exactly.
Same goes for drumming. There are completely different paradigms and sides to it. The average simpleton will think that drumming is simply creating a rhythm/beat in a song. When it is so much more... It also accompanies tempo, and directly relates to the rest of the music being played. Among other things... The typical fast double-bass exists to maintain a tempo, and create a constant in relation to; say, the guitars.