Thought I knew alot about Quail, but I was wrong. I learned so much, so fast. Presentation....PERFECT! Makes w me want to raise birds again. Thank you so much, I learned so so much. Martin and Lucy from Texas
I don't get why native birds require permits and nonnative don't. You'd think bringing a potentially invasive species into the country and raising one would be more of a risk.
I think the thought is to stop people from catching wild birds and trying to raise them. On another note, there really is very little threat of Coturnix becoming invasive. if one gets loose it is lucky to live more than a day or two before it is killed by some other native wild animal. But I get your point.
If native animals were allowed to pets it would mean more of them...great example is the sugar glider.. it's rare in it's natural habitat..Australia.. but in the USA there are heaps of them as pets...
@@simontheyers801 I agree, this is where I morally stand. Just because some things need to be uprooted, prevented from fruiting, not allowed to escape its terrarium, or not be near children - doesnt mean nobody should be allowed to have them. So catching a local bird that's "of least concern" in population numbers and are a harmless food source... should be... Fine....
@@EchoLog not talking about eating... more saving rare animals.. but yes as far as Australia is concerned..kangaroo is a much better protein than beef for our environment.. they are drought resistant and breed faster than cows.. meat is leaner..but good as beef
@@simontheyers801 and native turkeys or hogs or deer are adapted to the regional environment better than something not native. Always do research on what you can and can't do legally where you are, but what's more important is knowing how nature works and listening to the land. Too much of agriculture these days is cought up in red tape and politics. Lemme keep a goat! Screw your HOA! Anyway.. you from Australia? Seen a monotreme before? Little egg laying bastards so cute
You forgot to mention one of the most important things why homesteaders raise quail. coturnix quail are a dark meat quail and the others you named are white meat quail. Many people do not like white meat or do not like dark meat. I personally like both. I have raise coturnix quail along with Bobwhites, California Valleys, blue Scales, and Coturnix. If I were starting out, I would start with Coturnix Quail. I quit raising coturnix due to my wife not liking dark meat birds. I also raised dove but like I said she never like dark meat birds. God bless you and Yes I love your videos.
@@TheRainHarvester ------- Dark Meat Birds: 1. Coturnix Quails 2. All Doves 3. Chicken Legs and Hind Quarters White Meat Birds: 1. All Quail except coturnix quails 2. Chicken Breast and wings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I personally love Quail (not coturnix) because of the tenderness of the meat. I raise Bob Whites, Blues, California quails. I used to raise Coturnix quail but stopped because the meat is dark and nowhere close to the flavor of the other quails. If you want white meat birds in bulk then I would advise raising a breed of Cornish hens. Go to a site like "Meyer Hatchery" and choose the birds you want to raise. Lord bless and be with you in these last days we live. Jesus is coming but before He does evil will rein. Seek Truth and ye shall find it.
Glad you brought up the permit issue for some breeds of quail. The same thing applies to releasing them. If you pen raise a number of quail and release them your results for increasing the population can be poor at best. As pen raised birds are not as wary of predators and acclimatized to surviving without provided shelter, cover, food and water they generally do not live long enough to repopulate an area.
I'm just spitballing here but couldn't you create artificial predation to teach survival instincts? Use like a puppet or remote controlled thing, or maybe one of those rolling balls with the weasel tails at first.
@@SageofCancer that's an interesting idea... maybe have a large quail pen, release a couple cats in it when they reach maturity, whatever's left at the end of 1 week earns its freedom? Cats get fed, quails repopulate, I eat a few eggs, everybody's happy
Have you tried cross-breeding any quail types? I'm curious what impact that might have on size and egg production. Would love to see a video on that. Thanks for all of the free advice! I go back and watch these videos whenever I have questions.
About two weeks ago a bobwhite took up residence on my property in north central Arizona. They aren't supposed to live anywhere near here. He's been trying to make friends with the resident gambel quail. I find the whole thing a bit odd but he's a cute little bugger and I kinda like him.
I started bringing home native plants around Christmas time. By gumby, if it didn't happen the morning after I brought home ONE quail bush, I walked outside and nearly stepped on the first California quail I ever saw in person, a male. I was Impressed! Hey, these native plants are great! That picture right @ 5:00 looks a lot like a California quail, btw.
I went to the Atlanta botanical garden once and they had a clutch of rare quail hatch in the conservatory. I don't remember the species, but the babies looked like cotton balls on toothpicks. I believe they still maintain the population as part of a breeding program.
I became curious enough to send an email just now asking about them. Obviously I don't know if or when ill get a response, but I'll try to let you know if I find out.
The was the reply I received. Not what I thought, but still interesting. ========================== Thank you for reaching out! The Dorothy Chapman Fuqua Conservatory used to house both Gambel's Quail and California Quail. Both species had some breeding success in there, although neither is endangered. I'm sorry to say your tour guide may have been misinformed about the purpose of the birds, which were primarily there as "integrated pest management", working alongside the frogs and geckos as a natural way to control insect populations and keep the plants healthy. Unfortunately, while the adults did fine, the conservatory didn't prove to be an entirely safe environment for the chicks, so we stopped encouraging them to reproduce. The adults lived out their full lifespans, but we have not introduced more as we hope to eventually introduce a more rainforest-appropriate bird in the future. ===============================
Great video Chris thanks for all the info. I raise both Coturnix and bobwhite quail. The coturnix like you said has a much faster turn around time, plus their eggs are bigger and prettier,but that’s about all I like about them. The bobwhite on the other hand does take a lot longer to grow but I think it’s worth it. The meat is more white and taste better in my opinion. The birds are way more vocal and their dropping’s are smaller which makes a little less of a mess. As far as aggression it’s been about the same with the coturnix and bobwhites for me. I had over 250 bobwhites in my ground pen last summer and they all got along pretty well. Thanks again for the video, I started watching your channel before I got my first quail so it has been a big help.
Thanks so much for your input. I haven't raised bobwhites myself (hunted plenty of them when i was younger and they were more plentiful). It is good to hear from an experienced raiser. Sounds like, in actuality, they are pretty much the same as the coturnix on housing requirements after all.
I bought a "barnyard mix" of eggs on ebay and got a few Quail eggs with the order and I've never raised quail before so I was hooked fast on the 2 guys I got from that batch so I ordered 60 more eggs from another Seller and they are supposed to be a "mixed multi-color" variety of quails so it's hard to tell what I'll end up with but they are due to hatch in 3 days. I never realized there were so many varieties until now.
Thanks. Lot of info, but not a lot of photos. I'm a visual learner and need to see what you're talking about or it's not making an impact in my little ol' brain.
Thanks Chris. I got my rabbits going (thanks for your help on that) and I am hoping to start quail sometime in the spring. I appreciate the information! 👍
Chris, love your videos, they have taught me a lot and have inspired me to learn more. One quail you missed was the California or Valley quail....it looks almost exactly like a Gambel's but the breast feathers are penciled (like some chickens) and it has dark brown on the head instead of a more orange color of the Gambels.....but they are easy to confuse. I saw what I thought were Gambels quail when we were around White Bird, ID (dry area that funnels you through a river valley). The clutch was running on the road, about 10 of them, and they wouldn't get over so I could pass!! It was around sunrise....eventually I had to pass them (we were the only ones on the road) and that's when they took to the air for a short distance....was neat to see though. So, California quail, they are nice and pretty too.
Surprisingly little info on these. Looking them up because I'm seeing wild invasive Chukars outside Vegas. It's hilarious seeing them puff up like turkers and try to fight the Squirrels and scrub jays.
I just got my first order of jumbo Coturnix. :) Ten chicks, some variation in size, so there maybe different types of coturnix in there. I'm super excited! Thank you for the inspiration! Thank you for all the information you've shared with us.
You don't need a permit to raise Bobwhite quail in Florida. Maybe one is needed to release them into the wild but to raise them for eggs and or meat is your business. Florida is a free state! No sales tax on animal feeds for any animals you raise to eat or for milk or egg production. Dog food, horse food, are taxed, but no sales tax on farm animal food stuffs.
@@flipnamazing I am in the north west corner of Nassau County, near Boulogne. I found out DeSantis got taxes on pet food eliminated recently, even dogs or parrots of what ever you have. Not sure it is permanent, but it is no more for now anyway.
Can I use my coturnix rooster and mix with a Bob white hen? No one in my area raises coturnix and there's only one person who raises bob whites. All I have left is the rooster due to predators and then when I upgraded my cage my last hen got away from me and I could not catch her. So my rooster is hollering constantly and this woman is offering to give me a couple of bobwhite hens? I've heard how aggressive Bob whites are and I didn't know if you can mix the breeds.
Unfortunately they are different species and won't be able to produce offspring. I am sorry to hear that you are having problems finding a replacement hens. You might look into ordering some eggs and hatching them out.
Hey I was planning on getting a gambler quail or a california valley quail. I live in california but I can't seem to find the permits to have one as a pet
Go to the California department of fish and game website, actually "Ca department of fish and wildlife" they changed their name recently. The permit is about 20 bucks a year
Really interesting video. I’m pretty sure I want to get some quail this spring/summer and I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge and experience. Just a quick suggestion... something to think about. If you were to add some windbreaks I’ll bet you could fit a couple of rabbit hutches under the quail cages. It looks like the maintenance might be a lot nicer to deal with in that location.
Good thought. I don't want to add them under the quail cages but back behind them is a thought. If I can find enough people to come over and help me move them then I think I might do that.
Subscribed and the video is really so excellent and inspiring. Recently we got some quails and hatching eggs at home too, and we made a video of it, but far from good compared to yours and we are still learning. Thank you so much.
I'm planning on buying 12 - 20 different types of Coturnix Quail. I have recently watched one of your older videos about how many quail can you keep in your cage. You talk about if you have your quail on the ground it's more likely they can get diseases or parasites. I want to have my quails on a caged open grass land with a hut in my backyard. I'm planning on mixing some chicken sand with some diatomaceous earth and putting that mixture in the hut. I heard that can kill any kind of parasites that go on the quail. So my question is if I mix in diatomaceous earth with chicken sand will that help eliminate the chances of my quail getting any parasites or diseases? Also keep up the good work. These videos about quail are really helpful.
Honestly, I think the DE is more dangerous than most of the parasites out there. There is a higher possibility of them getting parasites or disease by being in contact with the ground but that is highly dependent on your area. It may not be an issue at all for you. I definitely would not put down DE though. That can do a lot of damage to your birds respiratory system.
Can you keep quail in the uk? We have the same climate as Seattle. That means miserable but seldom seriously low temps, like less than 25 Fahrenheit. Thanks.
From my research (which includes contacting the DNR) and also attempting this myself, it's pretty much futile trying to introduce new quail into an ecosystem with any kind of good results. The only way that would even have a chance of working is if you place feeders (they sell specific feeders just for this) throughout the area you release the birds in so that they have feed to eat as they're attempting to adapt to eating the natural food there.
Thanks for the information. I know it can be difficult to change the ecosystem for quail. I have never tried it myself but I know that people do it with varying levels of success. That is probably why quail populations continue to decline and haven't rebounded well.
Seems counter intuitive to require permits to raise native birds doesnt it? If not endangered and planning to release they should want folks to raise them instead of non natives that could become invasive.
I think the idea is they don't want people catching the native wild birds and keeping them (and most likely killing them). But I get what you are saying.
Coturnix hens do chirp but not that much. If you have roosters with your birds they are going to call. It doesn't really matter what species, they are all going to make noise. The hens are pretty quiet though.
The photos at 5 min mark show Cali quail, not Gambel's, those have brown hats. Very similar though, just started 30 bobwhites to blend with my 17 Coturnix, looking for Mountain quail now!
I have a hard time telling the Gambel's and Cali quail apart. I guess I got the wrong picture (or should I say, it was labeled wrong in the photo site I was using).
In state of GA, people are not allowed to raise quail and chickens in the city and in the sub. You do need a linces for raise quail for hunting games. It is illegal to hunt wild quail.
Looks to me, like you have photographs of the California Valley Quail, and are calling it the Gambels Quail. Also, you skipped the Valley Quail and the Benson, or Elegant Quail. The other name for the Montezuma Quail is the Mearns Quail. I thought you might talk about the difficulty for most quail newbies in sexing Blue Scale Quail and Mountain Quail, since sexes are fairly similar. Another point, on the Coturnix Quail. I've raised all of the Quail breeds available in the US, from Chinese Painted to Montezuma...and I think the most expensive of the Coturnix, were the Harlequins. And, at the time of this post, Montezumas are selling for $550/pair and up. So Yes...they're a bit more expensive. Bensons are next at about $200+/pair...then Mountains at $100-150/pair...then there is a big drop when you get to Gambels, Valleys, & Blue Scales...at $25-50/pair. These are not "in stone" prices, but what I've seen advertised for last & this season. I've raised all these Quail for over 40 years...and Partridge, Grouse, Pheasants, Peafowl, Guineas, Wild Turkeys, Emus, and Wild Ducks, Geese & Swans. Also rare chickens...Ayam Cemanis. The trouble with collecting Quail, and other species of birds, is unless you are an importer, there is a limit to your collection. There are so many other species of Quail in the world, that are almost impossible to obtain in the states. Buena Suerte!
@@Slightlyrednecked Also...In New Mexico (where I live now)...All Quail, regardless of breed, need to have a state permit. Also, Peafowl, part of the Pheasant Family, are considered game birds as well, and are birds that require a permit. Very crazy indeed. Four years ago, 3 SUVs from NM fish & game raided my place (from 2 hours drive away). They had guns. I had all my proper permits, state and federal (migratory waterfowl)...and showed them around my pens...they were impressed and left my property & birds.
The egg quails still win out in overall production because of the quick turn around and faster generational cycle. They say A&M is really good and all light meat.
Quail are so cute!!! In Finland we have mostly grouse. The largest is ofcourse the capercaillie! Some of these grouse are just beautiful. My favorite is the black grouse, because of the shape of the male's tail and their calls and other sounds. My friend got recently a hunting licence for grouse and got me some capercaillie and black grouse meat and it's simply delicious. Miles better than your typical chicken or turkey. When I will be an adult I will probably start raising my meat, because I don't really like the meat industry, but I still think meat is a natural part of a human's diet. I am wondering can a japanese quail take a finnish winter? It often gets over -20°C. Btw you just earned a subscriber! :)
Thank you so much for subscribing. You should have no problems with Coturnix (Japanese) quail in winter time. As long as they can get out of the wind, they do just fine in much colder temperatures than that.
Really all Coturnix will lay about an egg a day if the conditions are right. The jumbo pharoahs lay the largest eggs though so for that reason I think they are the best.
Thanks for sharing Chris. I’m in Florida for about 4-5 weeks, so will try tuning in on Thursday. What time is it coming on in the USA? God bless and hope your wife is great now. Bless up!
Renee Brown they are. The only thing that differences is their pattern on their chest and the red coloring on their head. But that's about it. They sing the same and look almost the same.
I think they are different subspecies. I am not an expert on them though so I am not sure exactly. I did forget to mention the valley quail in the video
I was wondering more about egg production and rate of growth. I'm from California where they are the native species but I don't know about their hatch rate or from egg to egg laying rates.
Do you sell fertile eggs? I am looking for a supplier closer to me. I bought some that came from Georgia and they took 8 days via mail and thus very low hatch rate. So I have 2 now (a male & female). I have a dozen eggs now in the incubator. I don't want all my flock to come from just two birds. Not sure if eggs are fertilized as have never seen the male mounting the female. He is "crowing". I'll know in two weeks if they are parents. I like and have watched all your videos. Thank you for all the valuable information on raising quail.
I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. It sounds like the seller used the wrong shipping method. There is no reason that it should take 8 days to get anywhere. Unfortunately I am not set up to ship eggs. I do recommend Kansas City Quail Farm though. They are a great supplier with a great selection of birds.
Mountain quail are typically kept in a community setting instead of pairs. They do quite well like that providing, of course, they are not overcrowded. You typically want a male for every 3 hens to ensure adequate fertilization and not too many males fighting with each other.
Is it true button quail can’t be tamed my coturnix males call when they see me Probably because I hatched them the call in the back ground the males flap their wings With excitement when I give them all mil worms keep up the GREAT CARE videos new subscripter xx
I haven't used any so I am not real familiar with them. I have an auto egg turner for my incubator and I love it. But it is important to stop turning the eggs at lockdown.
@@Slightlyrednecked Yes, I have a Nurture Right 360 incubator and it stops turning the last 3 days of hatch automatically. Its all digital but it's egg turner isn't designed for eggs much bigger or smaller than chicken eggs and it's manufacturer doesn't sell different size egg turners. It holds 22 eggs. I have had success hatching Coturnix quail eggs in it but would certainly get better hatch rates if the eggs were held better
I really want quail but i can't find legality in my county (Knox county TN) I'm trying to find if the law is different from chickens because I see no laws on quail here
you should be good to go they are not classified as chickens they are more like a pet bird. like parrot go fo it!! you will be glad you have them good luck
Chris .I am newbie to your channel. I was giving some quail eggs from a hunting preserve .the helper didn't tell me the name of the birds but I think they are bobwhite .do they hatch out at 23 days or is that the start of hatching and what day do I stop turning. thanks for your time.
They most likely are bobwhite if from a hunting preserve. I haven't hatched bobwhite myself but I believe that they hatch in 22 to 23 days. I would stop turning and go into Lockdown on day 20. I hope that helps.
You mentioned about all the other birds that you need permits to have, do you need a permit to raise the Coturnix quail ? And will those birds do well in heat say Florida or Texas or Arizona.
You don't need a permit for button or coturnix quail since they are not native to the states. And they should do just fine in the heat. It gets pretty hot in Southwest Missouri and they handle it well.
Hello sir I leave in bangladesh and my country weather is avg. temperature: 30 deg celcius and humidity 60-70%. Can i make a bobwhite quail farm? Thanks
You do NOT need a permit to raise bobwhites in every state. I used to raise them and my uncle kept thousands at a time. So no need for a permit in every state but check local game laws.
Slightly Rednecked here in Georgia you can raise small quantities of bobwhites for personal consumption as long as you retain a receipt and contact info of the original suppliers of the quail. Keep up the good work! Love the vids
I’m not sure if I missed it or not but did the Jumbo Cortiurnix need a permit or were they from another country? I specifically heard you mention that with the other kinds.
Couturnix (jumbo or not) shouldn't need a permit unless it is a city permit or something. They are not regulated though as they are not native to the U.S. Hope that helps.
Not a lot. If I am not mistaken they are a Bobwhite mutation though. I don know that they are mostly used for training purposes though and are not considered a good choice for meat and egg production.
You need a permit for bobwhite quail? Is this a state or federal requirement? How do you know this? I have heard bobwhite have a nice sound so may be better for a residential situation.
Yes. All native birds are protected and require permits to raise them. You can get the permit through your state conservation department in most cases.
really? i was pretty sure that native birds were protected federally so a permit would be needed to raise any bird native to the U.S. I may be wrong though.
That's one thing I don't understand, why do you have to pay to have a permit just to raise and release a native species of bird that is declining in population? For people who preach about saving the environment and native species of animals, it doesn't make sense that they would be charging people money that actually want to do it.
Because you can creat a dna line that will outcompite the native lines but they could also have dna defects at the same time, by acident or intentional.
Also, a quick randome google serch says:"Stocking of pen-raised birds is not an efficient means to increase wild bird populations, as shown by numerous studies over the past 25 years."
@@TheHyBriD3I6 still doesn't make sense that nonnative species don't require permits. The amount of invasive species in the past few decades that have outcompeted native species is ridiculous. In my home state of Florida alone it's happened so many times with different types of lizards, iguanas, ect. The lesser of the two evils in my opinion are raising native species... At the very least you're not creating a swarm of bugs you can't squash.
Hey, I live in southwest MO and I was wondering if you knew of places I could regularly sell quail to, because I am wanting to raise and sell quail for my ffa project
I find that craigslist is generally the best place. There are a few poultry swaps nearby (Turkey Creek Feed in Joplin holds one the first Saturday of every month) and you might try taking them to one of those. I see them for sale pretty regularly at those places but don't have experience trying to sell that way.
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I'm in southeast Colorado and have Scale Quail in my area, they share water and food with my chickens. The chickens have no issues with them unlike the Eurasian Doves in my tree who the chickens shoo away from their scratch grains. Scale Quail need a lot of space, they roam the whole neighboorhood.
0:59 - King Quail AKA Button Quail AKA Chinese Painted Quail etc
02:39 - Bob White
04:55 - Gambles Quail
05:47 - Mountain Quail
07:02 - Blue Scale Quail
07:44 - Coturnix Quail
Thanks.
1:05 Button Quail (Chinese Painted Quail)
2:04 Bobwhite Quail
4:55 Gambel's Quail
5:50 Mountain Quail
7:00 Blue Scale Quail
7:46 Coturnix Quail (Japanese Quail)
Was mentioned but didn't go into detail: Montezuma Quail
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I love how nicely you tel them to move, “come on guys, let’s get out there.” Very informative thanks!
Yes, I agree.
Thought I knew alot about Quail, but I was wrong.
I learned so much, so fast.
Presentation....PERFECT!
Makes w me want to raise birds again. Thank you so much, I learned so so much.
Martin and Lucy from Texas
I don't get why native birds require permits and nonnative don't. You'd think bringing a potentially invasive species into the country and raising one would be more of a risk.
I think the thought is to stop people from catching wild birds and trying to raise them. On another note, there really is very little threat of Coturnix becoming invasive. if one gets loose it is lucky to live more than a day or two before it is killed by some other native wild animal. But I get your point.
If native animals were allowed to pets it would mean more of them...great example is the sugar glider.. it's rare in it's natural habitat..Australia.. but in the USA there are heaps of them as pets...
@@simontheyers801 I agree, this is where I morally stand.
Just because some things need to be uprooted, prevented from fruiting, not allowed to escape its terrarium, or not be near children - doesnt mean nobody should be allowed to have them.
So catching a local bird that's "of least concern" in population numbers and are a harmless food source... should be... Fine....
@@EchoLog not talking about eating... more saving rare animals.. but yes as far as Australia is concerned..kangaroo is a much better protein than beef for our environment.. they are drought resistant and breed faster than cows.. meat is leaner..but good as beef
@@simontheyers801 and native turkeys or hogs or deer are adapted to the regional environment better than something not native.
Always do research on what you can and can't do legally where you are, but what's more important is knowing how nature works and listening to the land. Too much of agriculture these days is cought up in red tape and politics. Lemme keep a goat! Screw your HOA!
Anyway.. you from Australia? Seen a monotreme before? Little egg laying bastards so cute
You forgot to mention one of the most important things why homesteaders raise quail. coturnix quail are a dark meat quail and the others you named are white meat quail. Many people do not like white meat or do not like dark meat. I personally like both. I have raise coturnix quail along with Bobwhites, California Valleys, blue Scales, and Coturnix. If I were starting out, I would start with Coturnix Quail. I quit raising coturnix due to my wife not liking dark meat birds. I also raised dove but like I said she never like dark meat birds. God bless you and Yes I love your videos.
Is dove white meat? What is a good bird to raise for white meat?
@@TheRainHarvester -------
Dark Meat Birds:
1. Coturnix Quails
2. All Doves
3. Chicken Legs and Hind Quarters
White Meat Birds:
1. All Quail except coturnix quails
2. Chicken Breast and wings.
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I personally love Quail (not coturnix) because of the tenderness of the meat.
I raise Bob Whites, Blues, California quails.
I used to raise Coturnix quail but stopped because the meat is dark and
nowhere close to the flavor of the other quails.
If you want white meat birds in bulk then I would advise raising
a breed of Cornish hens.
Go to a site like "Meyer Hatchery" and choose the birds you want to raise.
Lord bless and be with you in these last days we live.
Jesus is coming but before He does evil will rein.
Seek Truth and ye shall find it.
@@jesuschristismylordandsavi6108 Thanks! And God bless you too!
Glad you brought up the permit issue for some breeds of quail. The same thing applies to releasing them. If you pen raise a number of quail and release them your results for increasing the population can be poor at best. As pen raised birds are not as wary of predators and acclimatized to surviving without provided shelter, cover, food and water they generally do not live long enough to repopulate an area.
I'm just spitballing here but couldn't you create artificial predation to teach survival instincts? Use like a puppet or remote controlled thing, or maybe one of those rolling balls with the weasel tails at first.
@@SageofCancer that's an interesting idea... maybe have a large quail pen, release a couple cats in it when they reach maturity, whatever's left at the end of 1 week earns its freedom? Cats get fed, quails repopulate, I eat a few eggs, everybody's happy
I just found out in GA here we don't need a permit to have the for personal consumption. Just need to have proof of perching! 😍 your videos
Have you tried cross-breeding any quail types? I'm curious what impact that might have on size and egg production. Would love to see a video on that. Thanks for all of the free advice! I go back and watch these videos whenever I have questions.
About two weeks ago a bobwhite took up residence on my property in north central Arizona. They aren't supposed to live anywhere near here. He's been trying to make friends with the resident gambel quail. I find the whole thing a bit odd but he's a cute little bugger and I kinda like him.
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i have no care for quails, nor have nothing to do with quials but yet video was very intresting, very simple yet derect to the point. good vid.
I love my bob white quails. I let some loose in hopes to bring back the wild population. Have one in my flower bed right now
I started bringing home native plants around Christmas time. By gumby, if it didn't happen the morning after I brought home ONE quail bush, I walked outside and nearly stepped on the first California quail I ever saw in person, a male. I was Impressed! Hey, these native plants are great! That picture right @ 5:00 looks a lot like a California quail, btw.
Interesting. Glad to hear that you are seeing some wild birds now. How cool.
Me, who's just trying to make a quail army. 👁👄👁
I went to the Atlanta botanical garden once and they had a clutch of rare quail hatch in the conservatory. I don't remember the species, but the babies looked like cotton balls on toothpicks. I believe they still maintain the population as part of a breeding program.
Interesting. I wonder what kind they are.
I became curious enough to send an email just now asking about them. Obviously I don't know if or when ill get a response, but I'll try to let you know if I find out.
The was the reply I received. Not what I thought, but still interesting.
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Thank you for reaching out! The Dorothy Chapman Fuqua Conservatory used to house both Gambel's Quail and California Quail. Both species had some breeding success in there, although neither is endangered. I'm sorry to say your tour guide may have been misinformed about the purpose of the birds, which were primarily there as "integrated pest management", working alongside the frogs and geckos as a natural way to control insect populations and keep the plants healthy. Unfortunately, while the adults did fine, the conservatory didn't prove to be an entirely safe environment for the chicks, so we stopped encouraging them to reproduce. The adults lived out their full lifespans, but we have not introduced more as we hope to eventually introduce a more rainforest-appropriate bird in the future.
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Great video Chris thanks for all the info. I raise both Coturnix and bobwhite quail. The coturnix like you said has a much faster turn around time, plus their eggs are bigger and prettier,but that’s about all I like about them. The bobwhite on the other hand does take a lot longer to grow but I think it’s worth it. The meat is more white and taste better in my opinion. The birds are way more vocal and their dropping’s are smaller which makes a little less of a mess. As far as aggression it’s been about the same with the coturnix and bobwhites for me. I had over 250 bobwhites in my ground pen last summer and they all got along pretty well. Thanks again for the video, I started watching your channel before I got my first quail so it has been a big help.
Thanks so much for your input. I haven't raised bobwhites myself (hunted plenty of them when i was younger and they were more plentiful). It is good to hear from an experienced raiser. Sounds like, in actuality, they are pretty much the same as the coturnix on housing requirements after all.
Thanks a million dude
One of the best videos I've seen.Very informative.
Thank you so much. I am glad you found it helpful.
I bought a "barnyard mix" of eggs on ebay and got a few Quail eggs with the order and I've never raised quail before so I was hooked fast on the 2 guys I got from that batch so I ordered 60 more eggs from another Seller and they are supposed to be a "mixed multi-color" variety of quails so it's hard to tell what I'll end up with but they are due to hatch in 3 days. I never realized there were so many varieties until now.
Thanks. Lot of info, but not a lot of photos. I'm a visual learner and need to see what you're talking about or it's not making an impact in my little ol' brain.
Thanks Chris. I got my rabbits going (thanks for your help on that) and I am hoping to start quail sometime in the spring. I appreciate the information! 👍
Awesome. Congrats on your rabbits and good luck with your upcoming quail endeavour.
As a kid I loved watching the valley quail. They are so stinking cute
We had lots of bobwhite in my area as a kid. Sadly I rarely see or hear them anymore.
Thank you, I’m a newbie to raising quail.
Thanks for watching. I am glad you found the video helpful.
Chris, love your videos, they have taught me a lot and have inspired me to learn more. One quail you missed was the California or Valley quail....it looks almost exactly like a Gambel's but the breast feathers are penciled (like some chickens) and it has dark brown on the head instead of a more orange color of the Gambels.....but they are easy to confuse. I saw what I thought were Gambels quail when we were around White Bird, ID (dry area that funnels you through a river valley). The clutch was running on the road, about 10 of them, and they wouldn't get over so I could pass!! It was around sunrise....eventually I had to pass them (we were the only ones on the road) and that's when they took to the air for a short distance....was neat to see though. So, California quail, they are nice and pretty too.
Oops. you are correct, I forgot about those. I am sure that there are a few others I missed too.
Surprisingly little info on these. Looking them up because I'm seeing wild invasive Chukars outside Vegas. It's hilarious seeing them puff up like turkers and try to fight the Squirrels and scrub jays.
I just got my first order of jumbo Coturnix. :) Ten chicks, some variation in size, so there maybe different types of coturnix in there. I'm super excited! Thank you for the inspiration!
Thank you for all the information you've shared with us.
Awesome. Congratulations on your new birds. Thank you so much for watching my channel. I am glad that it has been helpful for you.
@@Slightlyrednecked thanks :)
Thanks for another informative video!!
Thanks for watching.
You don't need a permit to raise Bobwhite quail in Florida. Maybe one is needed to release them into the wild but to raise them for eggs and or meat is your business. Florida is a free state! No sales tax on animal feeds for any animals you raise to eat or for milk or egg production. Dog food, horse food, are taxed, but no sales tax on farm animal food stuffs.
Thats where I'm at so thanks for the advice. I'm in jacksonville
@@flipnamazing I am in the north west corner of Nassau County, near Boulogne. I found out DeSantis got taxes on pet food eliminated recently, even dogs or parrots of what ever you have. Not sure it is permanent, but it is no more for now anyway.
@@CraneofBoulogne awesome. I'm in st johns County and have been thinking about raising quail and other animals that I need less than an acre to raise.
I’ll stay with coturnix but intrigued to learn more about the jumbo coturnix any videos on these Chris ???????
Can I use my coturnix rooster and mix with a Bob white hen? No one in my area raises coturnix and there's only one person who raises bob whites. All I have left is the rooster due to predators and then when I upgraded my cage my last hen got away from me and I could not catch her. So my rooster is hollering constantly and this woman is offering to give me a couple of bobwhite hens? I've heard how aggressive Bob whites are and I didn't know if you can mix the breeds.
Unfortunately they are different species and won't be able to produce offspring. I am sorry to hear that you are having problems finding a replacement hens. You might look into ordering some eggs and hatching them out.
I really like watching your channel. I also live in south MIssouri. We are just getting going on our little farm and learn alot from your channel.
Same here
Great presentation I just subscribed I love how you explain thanks so much.
Hey I was planning on getting a gambler quail or a california valley quail. I live in california but I can't seem to find the permits to have one as a pet
You might check with the conservation department in your area. That is generally who issues them.
Go to the California department of fish and game website, actually "Ca department of fish and wildlife" they changed their name recently. The permit is about 20 bucks a year
Great video man. I have been watching a ton of your videos lately, your doing all the stuff I want to be doing.
Thank you so much for watching. I am glad you are finding my videos enjoyable.
The free ones I have in my incubator! I am trying to find what they are.
Outstanding presentation of just what I was looking for. Thank you.
Awesome. Thanks so much for watching.
very informative. would love to start keeping quails again.
Thanks for watching. I am glad you liked it.
Really great video, thanks for the information!
Thank you so much. I am so glad to hear that you found it helpful.
Great educational video. Thanks for sharing
Really interesting video. I’m pretty sure I want to get some quail this spring/summer and I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge and experience.
Just a quick suggestion... something to think about. If you were to add some windbreaks I’ll bet you could fit a couple of rabbit hutches under the quail cages. It looks like the maintenance might be a lot nicer to deal with in that location.
Good thought. I don't want to add them under the quail cages but back behind them is a thought. If I can find enough people to come over and help me move them then I think I might do that.
Subscribed and the video is really so excellent and inspiring. Recently we got some quails and hatching eggs at home too, and we made a video of it, but far from good compared to yours and we are still learning. Thank you so much.
I'm planning on buying 12 - 20 different types of Coturnix Quail. I have recently watched one of your older videos about how many quail can you keep in your cage. You talk about if you have your quail on the ground it's more likely they can get diseases or parasites. I want to have my quails on a caged open grass land with a hut in my backyard. I'm planning on mixing some chicken sand with some diatomaceous earth and putting that mixture in the hut. I heard that can kill any kind of parasites that go on the quail. So my question is if I mix in diatomaceous earth with chicken sand will that help eliminate the chances of my quail getting any parasites or diseases?
Also keep up the good work. These videos about quail are really helpful.
Honestly, I think the DE is more dangerous than most of the parasites out there. There is a higher possibility of them getting parasites or disease by being in contact with the ground but that is highly dependent on your area. It may not be an issue at all for you. I definitely would not put down DE though. That can do a lot of damage to your birds respiratory system.
Can you keep quail in the uk? We have the same climate as Seattle. That means miserable but seldom seriously low temps, like less than 25 Fahrenheit. Thanks.
Sure. I have several viewers from the UK that keep quail. They are very hardy birds and do well in much more extreme climates than what you have.
How do the Coturnix care when the summer temperatures are 105- 108 for days on end?? We are in Texas.
As long as they have shade and plenty of fresh water they seem to do just fine. They are pretty weather hardy little birds.
I'm in St Charles County area of MO....thinking about getting some quail since i cannot have chickens per my HOA. Thank you for the video!
Thank you so much for watching. I am glad you found the video helpful. Hopefully your HOA doesn't keep you from having some quail. .
Great ! I've just baught my first 24 30 days old Jumbo Browns
awesome. Congrats on your new birds.
From my research (which includes contacting the DNR) and also attempting this myself, it's pretty much futile trying to introduce new quail into an ecosystem with any kind of good results. The only way that would even have a chance of working is if you place feeders (they sell specific feeders just for this) throughout the area you release the birds in so that they have feed to eat as they're attempting to adapt to eating the natural food there.
I have bobwhites and one got out and survived for 3 days before we finally caught him.
Thanks for the information. I know it can be difficult to change the ecosystem for quail. I have never tried it myself but I know that people do it with varying levels of success. That is probably why quail populations continue to decline and haven't rebounded well.
Same goes for turkey as well. Its' better to transplant young adult birds, rather than cage rear for release.
Seems counter intuitive to require permits to raise native birds doesnt it? If not endangered and planning to release they should want folks to raise them instead of non natives that could become invasive.
I think the idea is they don't want people catching the native wild birds and keeping them (and most likely killing them). But I get what you are saying.
Which are the quietest quail? Do they tend to chirp a lot?
Coturnix hens do chirp but not that much. If you have roosters with your birds they are going to call. It doesn't really matter what species, they are all going to make noise. The hens are pretty quiet though.
Dead quail are very quiet. The others tend to make noise.
Great job, enjoyed this and learned something too. Thanks
Thanks for watching. I am glad you liked it.
The photos at 5 min mark show Cali quail, not Gambel's, those have brown hats. Very similar though, just started 30 bobwhites to blend with my 17 Coturnix, looking for Mountain quail now!
I have a hard time telling the Gambel's and Cali quail apart. I guess I got the wrong picture (or should I say, it was labeled wrong in the photo site I was using).
I wouldnt be surprised if the bobwhites kill the coturnix... bobwhites get EXTREMELY aggressive during the breeding season.
The example you used for “Gambles Quail” was actually a California Valley Quail.. they’re very similar but not the same thing.
I love your hutch. I bought a chicken coop for mine but I most definitely will need to modify it to make it more quail friendly.
Thanks. These hutches have served me very well. You could easily modify a chicken coop to work well too though.
I'm in southwest Missouri also
Just a side note, I live in the pacific northwest and we got gambel's and mountain quail all the way up here.
Oops. Guess i need to research their range a little better.
In state of GA, people are not allowed to raise quail and chickens in the city and in the sub. You do need a linces for raise quail for hunting games. It is illegal to hunt wild quail.
City regs are assbackwards as it gets. If people knew how much food waste could be converted into eggs they would think twice my dawg
Your videos are awesome, fast talker and I like that. So knowledgeable:)
Thank you so much for the kind comments.
Looks to me, like you have photographs of the California Valley Quail, and are calling it the Gambels Quail. Also, you skipped the Valley Quail and the Benson, or Elegant Quail. The other name for the Montezuma Quail is the Mearns Quail. I thought you might talk about the difficulty for most quail newbies in sexing Blue Scale Quail and Mountain Quail, since sexes are fairly similar. Another point, on the Coturnix Quail. I've raised all of the Quail breeds available in the US, from Chinese Painted to Montezuma...and I think the most expensive of the Coturnix, were the Harlequins. And, at the time of this post, Montezumas are selling for $550/pair and up. So Yes...they're a bit more expensive. Bensons are next at about $200+/pair...then Mountains at $100-150/pair...then there is a big drop when you get to Gambels, Valleys, & Blue Scales...at $25-50/pair. These are not "in stone" prices, but what I've seen advertised for last & this season. I've raised all these Quail for over 40 years...and Partridge, Grouse, Pheasants, Peafowl, Guineas, Wild Turkeys, Emus, and Wild Ducks, Geese & Swans. Also rare chickens...Ayam Cemanis. The trouble with collecting Quail, and other species of birds, is unless you are an importer, there is a limit to your collection. There are so many other species of Quail in the world, that are almost impossible to obtain in the states. Buena Suerte!
Thank you for all the information. It is clear that you know a lot more about those other type of quail than I do. :).
@@Slightlyrednecked Also...In New Mexico (where I live now)...All Quail, regardless of breed, need to have a state permit. Also, Peafowl, part of the Pheasant Family, are considered game birds as well, and are birds that require a permit. Very crazy indeed. Four years ago, 3 SUVs from NM fish & game raided my place (from 2 hours drive away). They had guns. I had all my proper permits, state and federal (migratory waterfowl)...and showed them around my pens...they were impressed and left my property & birds.
What is the best quail to raise in big quantities for commercial purposes.(meat not eggs)?
Coturnix is the best by far. I would go with jumbo pharoah or jumbo meat makers.
The egg quails still win out in overall production because of the quick turn around and faster generational cycle. They say A&M is really good and all light meat.
Plus the whole non indigenous thing too.
Quail are so cute!!!
In Finland we have mostly grouse. The largest is ofcourse the capercaillie! Some of these grouse are just beautiful. My favorite is the black grouse, because of the shape of the male's tail and their calls and other sounds.
My friend got recently a hunting licence for grouse and got me some capercaillie and black grouse meat and it's simply delicious. Miles better than your typical chicken or turkey.
When I will be an adult I will probably start raising my meat, because I don't really like the meat industry, but I still think meat is a natural part of a human's diet.
I am wondering can a japanese quail take a finnish winter? It often gets over -20°C.
Btw you just earned a subscriber! :)
Thank you so much for subscribing. You should have no problems with Coturnix (Japanese) quail in winter time. As long as they can get out of the wind, they do just fine in much colder temperatures than that.
@@Slightlyrednecked Ok thanks for helping!
The jumbo pharoahs are they the best egg layers to??
Really all Coturnix will lay about an egg a day if the conditions are right. The jumbo pharoahs lay the largest eggs though so for that reason I think they are the best.
Chris, is that a solar panel on the side of the hutch hanging down? Do you use that for heat within the sheltered section of your hutch?
It is. I use it to run lights to keep the quail laying longer in the fall and earlier in the spring.
@@Slightlyrednecked Thanks - Funny I'm watching ANOTHER video of yours right now !
i’m getting coturnix quails. i’ve set up the brooder and i have got the incubator. any tips i may not know? thx
I have a ton of videos on raising coturnix quail. Just look through my home page under the "coturnix quail" heading. Good luck with your new birds.
where to get the good quail/eggs to start? Also the cages for a smaller backyard in a city?
You are way too awesome you made it all makes sense
Hi Chris how are you? Your video and information is very good.
Very good video, thanks for sharing
very educational, thank you
Thanks for sharing Chris. I’m in Florida for about 4-5 weeks, so will try tuning in on Thursday. What time is it coming on in the USA? God bless and hope your wife is great now. Bless up!
Awesome. Hope to see you there. The live broadcast is Thursday at 7:00 central (that would be 8:00 Florida time).
Thanks for sharing - been thinking about branching out to there species so this was really useful!
Thanks for watching. I am glad you liked the video.
Are the gamble's quail also called California valley quail? I thought they were different species
Renee Brown they are. The only thing that differences is their pattern on their chest and the red coloring on their head. But that's about it. They sing the same and look almost the same.
I think they are different subspecies. I am not an expert on them though so I am not sure exactly. I did forget to mention the valley quail in the video
I was wondering more about egg production and rate of growth. I'm from California where they are the native species but I don't know about their hatch rate or from egg to egg laying rates.
Renee Brown what exactly do you want to know?. How much they lay and when they do?. Or what is it exactly?.
How long it takes from hatch to laying fertile eggs and how many eggs a year.
THanks, figuring out which quail to get, just in time.
Awesome. I am so glad to help.
Do you sell fertile eggs? I am looking for a supplier closer to me. I bought some that came from Georgia and they took 8 days via mail and thus very low hatch rate. So I have 2 now (a male & female). I have a dozen eggs now in the incubator. I don't want all my flock to come from just two birds. Not sure if eggs are fertilized as have never seen the male mounting the female. He is "crowing". I'll know in two weeks if they are parents. I like and have watched all your videos. Thank you for all the valuable information on raising quail.
I am sorry to hear about your bad experience. It sounds like the seller used the wrong shipping method. There is no reason that it should take 8 days to get anywhere. Unfortunately I am not set up to ship eggs. I do recommend Kansas City Quail Farm though. They are a great supplier with a great selection of birds.
Mountain quail are typically kept in a community setting instead of pairs. They do quite well like that providing, of course, they are not overcrowded. You typically want a male for every 3 hens to ensure adequate fertilization and not too many males fighting with each other.
Oops. I should have consulted with you more before shooting this video. Thanks for the information.
Do you know where I can find Coturnix quail chicks for sale?
Etsy or eBay
Thank You this helps with my farm
Thank you for watching. I am glad you found it helpful.
How about California Quail?
i think those might be like, banned, its the state bird of California.
@@quail-gs7dw ---No, California Valley Quail are legal. I raise them. They are almost indistinctable from Gambles.
Is it true button quail can’t be tamed my coturnix males call when they see me
Probably because I hatched them the call in the back ground the males flap their wings
With excitement when I give them all mil worms keep up the GREAT CARE videos new subscripter xx
My bobwhites are the same way, they get excited when they see me coming.
what is your opinion on the rotating auto turning incubators?
I haven't used any so I am not real familiar with them. I have an auto egg turner for my incubator and I love it. But it is important to stop turning the eggs at lockdown.
@@Slightlyrednecked Yes, I have a Nurture Right 360 incubator and it stops turning the last 3 days of hatch automatically. Its all digital but it's egg turner isn't designed for eggs much bigger or smaller than chicken eggs and it's manufacturer doesn't sell different size egg turners. It holds 22 eggs. I have had success hatching Coturnix quail eggs in it but would certainly get better hatch rates if the eggs were held better
You video was amazing thanks for you sharing
I am a quail hunter, so I'm familiar with bob white. How similar is the meat of the coturnix? I heard darker.
Thank you
There isn't much of a difference at all in the meat really. Coturnix meat is a bit darker but I find them to be pretty much the same.
Slightly Rednecked Thank you. Kevin said you were good.
Are they noisy like chickens? I want backyard chickens but I do not want the noise.
The roosters do crow but it sounds more like a song bird. No where near what a chicken rooster sounds like. Other than that, they are pretty quiet.
What kind of permit do I need to raise california quail in california?
You don't
I really want quail but i can't find legality in my county (Knox county TN) I'm trying to find if the law is different from chickens because I see no laws on quail here
you should be good to go
they are not classified as chickens
they are more like a pet bird. like parrot
go fo it!! you will be glad you have them
good luck
It's been my experience if you can't find any laws or directives
Your good to go
Great video ،thank you for the information
Thank you so much for watching. I am glad you found it helpful.
Great vid Chris, 👍
Thanks so much. I am glad you liked it.
Chris .I am newbie to your channel. I was giving some quail eggs from a hunting preserve .the helper didn't tell me the name of the birds but I think they are bobwhite .do they hatch out at 23 days or is that the start of hatching and what day do I stop turning. thanks for your time.
They most likely are bobwhite if from a hunting preserve. I haven't hatched bobwhite myself but I believe that they hatch in 22 to 23 days. I would stop turning and go into Lockdown on day 20. I hope that helps.
You mentioned about all the other birds that you need permits to have, do you need a permit to raise the Coturnix quail ? And will those birds do well in heat say Florida or Texas or Arizona.
You don't need a permit for button or coturnix quail since they are not native to the states. And they should do just fine in the heat. It gets pretty hot in Southwest Missouri and they handle it well.
Hello sir
I leave in bangladesh and my country weather is avg. temperature: 30 deg celcius and humidity 60-70%. Can i make a bobwhite quail farm?
Thanks
I think they would do just fine in that climate.
@@Slightlyrednecked
Thank you sir
Where i can find the jumbo quail. And how i can import.
You do NOT need a permit to raise bobwhites in every state. I used to raise them and my uncle kept thousands at a time. So no need for a permit in every state but check local game laws.
Interesting. I thought it was every state but I guess I was wrong.
Slightly Rednecked here in Georgia you can raise small quantities of bobwhites for personal consumption as long as you retain a receipt and contact info of the original suppliers of the quail. Keep up the good work! Love the vids
I’m not sure if I missed it or not but did the Jumbo Cortiurnix need a permit or were they from another country? I specifically heard you mention that with the other kinds.
Couturnix (jumbo or not) shouldn't need a permit unless it is a city permit or something. They are not regulated though as they are not native to the U.S. Hope that helps.
Got it. Thanks!!
How about Texas A&M quail?
They are a type of Coturnix quail.
Do you have any knowledge of the Tennessee red?
Not a lot. If I am not mistaken they are a Bobwhite mutation though. I don know that they are mostly used for training purposes though and are not considered a good choice for meat and egg production.
You need a permit for bobwhite quail? Is this a state or federal requirement? How do you know this? I have heard bobwhite have a nice sound so may be better for a residential situation.
Yes. All native birds are protected and require permits to raise them. You can get the permit through your state conservation department in most cases.
You only need a permit for quail that are native to the state you live in.
really? i was pretty sure that native birds were protected federally so a permit would be needed to raise any bird native to the U.S. I may be wrong though.
@@Slightlyrednecked That was per my DNR here in Michigan 2 years ago.
That's one thing I don't understand, why do you have to pay to have a permit just to raise and release a native species of bird that is declining in population? For people who preach about saving the environment and native species of animals, it doesn't make sense that they would be charging people money that actually want to do it.
Yeah right…YOU should be getting paid for something that fish n game would use envirnmental funds to do. I wouldn’t give ‘em a dime lol
Because you can creat a dna line that will outcompite the native lines but they could also have dna defects at the same time, by acident or intentional.
Also, a quick randome google serch says:"Stocking of pen-raised birds is not an efficient means to increase wild bird populations, as shown by numerous studies over the past 25 years."
@@TheHyBriD3I6 still doesn't make sense that nonnative species don't require permits. The amount of invasive species in the past few decades that have outcompeted native species is ridiculous. In my home state of Florida alone it's happened so many times with different types of lizards, iguanas, ect.
The lesser of the two evils in my opinion are raising native species... At the very least you're not creating a swarm of bugs you can't squash.
So happy to find your channel
Hey, I live in southwest MO and I was wondering if you knew of places I could regularly sell quail to, because I am wanting to raise and sell quail for my ffa project
I find that craigslist is generally the best place. There are a few poultry swaps nearby (Turkey Creek Feed in Joplin holds one the first Saturday of every month) and you might try taking them to one of those. I see them for sale pretty regularly at those places but don't have experience trying to sell that way.
Do you need a permit for Tibetan coturnix , or for celadon blue coturnix ??
Nice birds, and I like the hutch they live in.
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what about California Valley Quail?
I'm in southeast Colorado and have Scale Quail in my area, they share water and food with my chickens. The chickens have no issues with them unlike the Eurasian Doves in my tree who the chickens shoo away from their scratch grains. Scale Quail need a lot of space, they roam the whole neighboorhood.