Years Of TORMENT For A Murder I Didn’t Commit | Guilty Bystander | Channel 4

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  • In August 2019 Freya opened her door to find armed police pointing their guns at her. Her daughter Kiri was quickly arrested for murder.
    Kiri was charged with a crime that she didn’t even know had taken place, under the controversial joint enterprise law.
    She spent six months in prison before being acquitted, and says her life has changed forever as the experience continues to haunt her.
    Guilty Bystander explores the dramatic stories of people convicted under joint enterprise law, charged with a crime they were not present for, or even knew was going to happen.
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  • @VeeLondon1449
    @VeeLondon1449 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Kiri wishing you the best. Congratulations on graduating. But in hindsight you was to trusting, letting a friend use your car without a thought, just based on friendship and the company you kept! Literally no common life aspirations! Sorry you had to go through this to learn boundaries and that you where associating with people who didn’t see or care about your life/worth. You have a big heart, and your a good person and you and your family have been through a lot, take care x

  • @SAma-qp1xf
    @SAma-qp1xf ปีที่แล้ว +11

    can someone explain why exactly they arrested her if she wasn’t there? Did they hang out earlier in the day?

  • @dondoodat
    @dondoodat ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I was wrongly charged with a group of offences and through police lies I was found guilty at magistrates court.
    I made the whole front page of the local newspaper and minor articles in others.
    Weeks later I attended Crown Court to appeal my conviction.
    An usher came out and told me the prosecution had withdrawn all allegations and I could go home.
    No judge told me I was innocent, no media saw me being found innocent. I got nothing in writing.
    I went to the local newspaper and asked if they could post an article that updated their front page and was told they weren't required to do so and therefore wouldn't.
    So there is still the story out there that I am a criminal, but nothing out there saying I'm not.
    And as many would say, there's no smoke without fire........

    • @ste9071
      @ste9071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi mate, I'm sorry to hear of your trouble with being charged with offences that you maybe hadn't committed. As for police officers lying, it's a matter for professional standards, a division that investigates police conduct. Regarding the stories in the paper, if it was a while ago, email them under right to be forgotten laws and rehabilitation of offenders act, send them an email using those acts and they will remove those stories. I cannot say anything more than that as I am myself a serving police officer, but we aren't all the same mate, I assure you. I hope my advice can be of help for you!

    • @dondoodat
      @dondoodat ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ste9071
      Offences I HADN'T committed, there's no 'maybe' about it.
      Which kind of proves my point.
      It was decades ago and the idea that not all police are the same is of no comfort.
      It isn't a few bad apples, it's the many so-called good apples that confirm each others stories, agree a line before writing up their notes, claim they heard incriminating details when they weren't even there and perjure themselves in court.
      I have no faith in the police and cross the street when I see them.

    • @SynisterNation
      @SynisterNation ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Don Doodat best analogy I ever heard was if there was one poison gumball in a machine filled with them would you still want to try some? It doesn't matter if the amount of police who are corrupt is in the minority, it still lowers our trust in the system.

    • @dondoodat
      @dondoodat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SynisterNation
      Many serving police have criminal records and are allowed to stay in the force.
      At least 150 Met Police have criminal convictions.
      How can anyone have confidence in that ?
      The rot is from top to bottom.
      Police officers forget they are supposed to be autonomous, not target driven.
      How many times has Michael Gove been stopped and searched when white powder has been found all over Westminster and police meet him nearly every day ?
      What were the police doing watching parties at No.10.
      Has Prince Andrew helped anyone with their enquiries ?
      When certain people are above the law it isn't law anymore, it's just a racket.

    • @SynisterNation
      @SynisterNation ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Don Doodat i agree, I was simply saying that it doesn't matter how many are corrupt, It still affects the publics trust in the system. Until the officers stop standing by and letting corrupt officers continue abusing their power how can they ever expect us to have any faith in them performing their jobs honestly.

  • @jacquiwmch
    @jacquiwmch ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Her partner was sent to prison, that should have been a light bulb moment to change the people she associated with. I hope she is doing well.

  • @SynisterNation
    @SynisterNation ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The arrest was justified, they had to get to the bottom of what happened but being charged and placed in prison for murder wasn't justified.

    • @ellamariesvlogs2307
      @ellamariesvlogs2307 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes you’re right the arrest was justified 💯 but t then put her name in the paper until she was found guilty was just pure wrong in my eyes 👀💯 I think you shouldn’t be allowed to realise anyone’s name until they have been found guilty of the crime 🤷‍♀️ because there will always be people out there who think “there is no smoke without fire” and convict them without any evidence and then this kind of things happen to her and her family 😫

    • @SynisterNation
      @SynisterNation ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Ella Marie's Vlogs this is how it always is though. Men losing jobs because of accusations made public. I agree that nobody should be able to be named untol found guilty of a crime. Stop all the witchhunts and outrage without a conviction.

    • @Wynterking94
      @Wynterking94 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ellamariesvlogs2307 put your phone down and step away from the emojis. ya cringe af

    • @ellamariesvlogs2307
      @ellamariesvlogs2307 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wynterking94 no thanks I like using them 🤣🤣 but why do you need to be so nasty just scroll past if u don’t like it 🤷‍♀️ I can tell your one of them people who sit behind a computer screen 📺 all day trying t troll people 🤣🤣 sad pathetic man

    • @tanneradams20
      @tanneradams20 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Over there you’re guilty until proven innocent.

  • @meadcatherine67
    @meadcatherine67 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    And this is why you say "No comment' and don't say shit until you get a lawyer.

  • @cm2boi
    @cm2boi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Girls want a bad boy untill you on trial for murder 😂😂

  • @HF-tj8db
    @HF-tj8db ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm not saying that this law shouldn't be in place. But, how can someone who literally murdered a boy (harry dunn) get nothing but a suspended sentence, and she can spend 6 months in prison even though she's innocent? Maybe a slight reduction in the sentence for the crime they thought she'd committed, and an increase in the sentence for death by careless driving, would be apt.

  • @cheesball96
    @cheesball96 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The perfect example of 'If you show me your friends, I will show you your future.'

  • @KaraN-ug9lt
    @KaraN-ug9lt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As with many laws, they can be used wrongly against innocent people or those innocent people can get caught up in something that had nothing to do with them.... HOWEVER! "joint enterprise" when applied correctly is a needed law for some cases, just take "honey trapping" cases as a prime example. The "honey" may not have actually committed the murder/ assault but participated in everything aspect but the physical act in full knowledge of what would or COULD happen then try to play unknowing bystander/ victim... unacceptable and that's just one example. It's also worth mentioning that lessons can always be learned about the company you keep, and being mindful that it may have unforeseen repercussions.

  • @heathermylan3741
    @heathermylan3741 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You have done nothing wrong. So enjoy your life . Just remind yourself that this moment is yours and your in control. Relax and find pleasure in all that you do.

  • @laurawilliams3847
    @laurawilliams3847 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful example of “lay down with dogs, rise with fleas”.

  • @robertwilson3755
    @robertwilson3755 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Her father says " they " the police couldn't come and say they were wrong, welcome to our police system.

    • @philpem
      @philpem ปีที่แล้ว +11

      biggest street gang in the country!

  • @xTerminatorAndy
    @xTerminatorAndy ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "joint enterprise" laws are needed. They are useful. Just because you are the lookout in a bank robbery, doesn't make you any less guilty if one of the robbers decides to shoot an innocent party... Having said that, there have to be checks and balances, which there clearly are. However, the prosecution has to do a better job and only accuse those for whom they have a valid case

    • @SteveMeek
      @SteveMeek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I know of a few joint enterprise cases that are totally unjust, joint enterprise needs a massive shake up as do conspiracy laws as they are lazy laws that drag everyone in instead of distinguishing roles using common sense

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Could say, Parole Officers are leaving themselves open for arrest, too, for 'helping', we could say. Something a bit warped here, we could also say.

  • @abi-ci8lh
    @abi-ci8lh หลายเดือนก่อน

    so heartbreaking.
    I knew so many young girl like this when I was growing up. smh

  • @JGZ.
    @JGZ. ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There is a line that needs to be there; bystanders or accomplices, when does that line cross?
    It's easy to say I don't do the act, but did you facilitate or have any direct involvement in the act?
    Where there measures you could have taken to prevent it?

  • @carolinestreeter975
    @carolinestreeter975 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can’t find this on channel 4

  • @carolinemorgan7038
    @carolinemorgan7038 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can I ask what happened to the other girl?

  • @rebeccajackson2238
    @rebeccajackson2238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did she get any compo for losing six months of her life?

  • @user-qo4iq7bv8n
    @user-qo4iq7bv8n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If kiri did not take the blame for whoever actually did the crime concerned, She & Her Parents would've been receiving Death threats from the blue fiith (police) & could of had a dozen attempts on their lives, I now fear this happen to me for real.

  • @RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio
    @RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good strong girl.

  • @homelessalcoholic2716
    @homelessalcoholic2716 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why did you chose to hang out with those people? Like if you know some dude is bad and you stick with him it's your own fault.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The law is good as it is. The red flags were there. You're going out with a criminal. You befriend the girlfriend of another criminal. You're ferrying bad guys.
    How many warnings do you need? Dad was right to be cautious of others. Sadly the kids never listen to dad

    • @inerit5175
      @inerit5175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kids never listen to ANYONE!

  • @R_W103
    @R_W103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What’s with bongo type noises

  • @jantC1
    @jantC1 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Well done Kiri. Good to see the usual trolls with their vile puss aren’t commenting today. Most of us caught in the joint enterprise trap not only have to endure the misery of a wrongful conviction, but the disgusting harassment and vile comments by people who know nothing about our loved ones or the case they are trapped into. ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽 you speak for all of us here so thank you. And shame on all those people who thing abusing others is acceptable.

    • @monkeymagic4555
      @monkeymagic4555 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah yeah yeah....As if she really was TOTALLY innocent and didn't know anything prior in the build up and so on....

    • @homelessalcoholic2716
      @homelessalcoholic2716 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, if you KNOW your friends are bad and you decide to hang out with them, and ESPECIALLY if you know they're gonna commit a crime, you deserve to rot too.

  • @whitemanblackvan2706
    @whitemanblackvan2706 ปีที่แล้ว

    She entitled to compensation surely

  • @jacklancaster8622
    @jacklancaster8622 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im glad she is out and was found not guilty but lay with dogs and you pick up fleas

  • @nocomment1984
    @nocomment1984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Biggest crime here is
    That yellow kitchen 😮😮😮😮

  • @thekidd7
    @thekidd7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good food, still.

  • @joebloggs9946
    @joebloggs9946 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kiri aka pawg

  • @commiezombie2477
    @commiezombie2477 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job girl! She graduated with HONORS!

  • @monkeymagic4555
    @monkeymagic4555 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    She was defo far far more in the know all along than she is letting on.....Find an escape hatch much!?

  • @6luelucca4
    @6luelucca4 ปีที่แล้ว

    She is beautiful can you tell her to call me I have a ring 💍

  • @monkeymagic4555
    @monkeymagic4555 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    She was defo far far more in the know all along than she is letting on.....Find an escape hatch much!?

    • @R_W103
      @R_W103 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Explain? Be specific