My Son’s Life Sentence - For A Murder SOMEONE ELSE Confessed To | Guilty Bystander | Channel 4
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- Dean Winston was sentenced to life in 2014 for the murder of Mohamed Abdullahi.
His co-defendant Kyle Sober-Froud admitted to causing the fatal stab wound that killed Mohamed, but Dean was also sentenced to life under the ‘guilty by association’ joint enterprise law - and received a longer sentence than the man who admitted murder.
Dean’s Mum Bee argues that he’s not a murderer.
Guilty Bystander explores the dramatic stories of people convicted under joint enterprise law. Some were charged with a crime they were not present for, or even knew was going to happen.
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He instigated it. They wouldn’t have been there to attack the victim if he hadn’t got his 2 ‘mates’ to get in a taxi and cruise for someone to attack. Someone died and it was at his instigation. He may not have wanted the result, but he started the ball rolling and has to face the consequences.
“He was on tag..normal teenage problems”
And
“He knew he wasn’t involved in the shooting, so he only beat him up”
The mother needs sentencing for being an idiot
Your son and his friends and left their homes with weapons with the intent to harm someone. This led to this young man's death and your son and his friends are absolutely jointly responsible for what took place.
I think it’s interesting that she referred to Mohamed’s mom as ‘that’s boy’s mom’, why can’t she name him?
I have seen almost all of these channel 4 documentaries on joint enterprise - and have talked about how it is prejudicial and often unfair and results in gross miscarriages of justice.
THIS IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
This man took 2 of his mates and went on a glide. They had knives and were out for blood. They found a RANDOM person and went to kill him.
I do not believe for one second that Dean Winston was surprised by the knife his friend had, they were armed for what other reason than a killing?
Almost every word that came out of the mother's mouth was chilling to me. She would have defended him even if she saw him do it with her own 2 eyes. She needs to take responsibility. What was your son in to that people let off shots at the house? Of course he wanted it back in blood, he played a stupid game and won a stupid prize.
Dean Winston is a victim of nothing other than an irresponsible mother and his own stupidity.
I'm glad he's off the streets. I'm North London born and raised, it could've been me he just decided to kill. Or one of my brothers.
Let him rot.
He deserved that sentence 😂 his mum is delusional. Also you have not lost your son, you can still speak to him everyday, the victims mother cannot, he is gone. She needs a reality check.
“Tell them I’m coming for them.” She said that far too casually, like this wasn’t the first time she heard him say something that provocative and potentially very dangerous. I’m sorry but when you go TO them, you have no reason to whine.
It never just “all goes wrong” They should both be thankful that he’s alive at least and off the streets.
Clearly this guy has some serious impulse control and anger management issues. And I’m pretty sure he didn’t ask 12 before he went off with the other two. Why they think shared responsibility is unfair or that “only ten” line makes their argument valid is beyond me.
You don't no how it feels to really lose someone. You're son is still alive.
He deserves what he got. Should have been longer
The same woman who told her son "dont come back till someone pays"
Glad to see these 3 thugs are in jail justice served
Sounds about right to me.!
Guilty and no hint of any accountability. If you do not like joint enterprise then simply do not associate or engage with individuals who are likely to implicate you in such a way.
It's not even associating with them. He recruited them, and went in search of someone to kill.
Such a senseless, needless, disgusting act.
Guilty af.
He is the most guilty one. All I see here is a mother defending the indefensible
bet he wanted to kill him tho. if they didnt get caught they would be bragging about it and by the way ur soon wont spend the rest of his life in prison he will be out in 23 years that guy that died wont be back.
It was your beef, deal with it
he didnt think he was involve but they only beat them up lmfao this mum is crazy
Joint enterprise needs to be reviewed, there's clearly a lot of issues with these laws. Assumptions are not facts.
It's beneficial for prosecuting those in gangs.
Got what he deserved knew what ge was doing and attacked an innocent man
If it was the other way round and it was her son that was stabbed, would she want all 3 found guilty or just 1?
Sounds fair to me, great job by the Jury...I understand mum is emotional like any mother but im afraid sounda like justice was served correctly here
Your get your son back the dead boys mum won’t.
the jury clearly didn't like the look of the other :/
wheres his dad?
wannabe gangsters.
So peak.
I'm telling you star
y blinders
It's the perfect sentence for a violent person who would of inflicted more pain and suffering not only for his own family but other potential victims. He will think twice about his actions in the future and you hope it will deter others from this sort of life because it's getting out of hand and there isn't enough self accountability until after the damage is done.
@Don Doodat no. He beat a boy up who he didn't even think had done it. He was involved in that life or why else would his house get shot up? And he was there while his friend murdered somebody after he had kicked the shit out of him, it not like he is an innocent person who happened to be walking past and people like this need making an example of because it's getting out of hand.
@Don Doodat but beat someone up then stand by while your friend stabs them to death and then not go to the police and tell them what he did, you can't just compare it to pissheads fighting which I think should be taken more seriously btw. Yeah I completely think he deserved the sentence.
That is barking!
Ten years is enough for being involved, if that.
Jesus loves you and died for our sins amen
Play stupid games win stupid prizes …
I feel the sentence he got was correct.
"They didn't think he had anything to do with shooting so they only beat him up". 👏
That’s unfortunately how gangs work, if he’s associated, it’s a warning, if you join a gang, you’re vulnerable to being a target for revenge even if innocent
He knew he was innocent and went to beat him up to " send a message " to someone else wtf. The mother needs a reality check
And then has the gall to compare her situation to the situation of the mother who's son was murdered. Awful woman.
@@discreetelite That was the bit that did it for me. Stupid woman, you can at least talk to your murderer son, hear his voice, visit him, hold his hand. The other innocent mother had to BURY HER CHILD.
Dean Winston is a murderer, plain and simple.
I'm from the area, and I can just imagine in mistaken identity, myself or one of my brothers being targeted.
Bury him under the jail for all I care.
I love how the mum was like, "Oh, he's only been on tag" and "oh, he knew he didn't do it, that's why they only beat him up". I grew up on a council estate with parents both working minimum wage jobs. I got into a grammar school & went to Uni and now have a successful career... the mum needs to take a good hard look at herself and her parenting. Shocking.
Well said, as a parents you need to be responsible, if a kid steps out of line, deal with him/her. Watching your kid mix with crime and normalising it shows how lost you have become in the process. Far too busy sitting on arse all day in front of the telly.
Yeh, he was such a nice boy🤦♂️
exactly was thinking the same. It's as if it's okay to "beat someone up"
Not everyone has the same luck maybe yours was in. Different situations create different people the system fucks us all over. Free the guys
@@marcusherts9345who ??????????
The fact that someone fired a gun through his window says he was already in trouble, and to then go out and participate in a beating which resulted in a poor lad getting killed . Should of got 50 years, couldn’t believe his mum didn’t have the respect to call the lad by his proper name she just called him boy and then say he only beat him up. Wow
Unfortunately there are too many mothers like these, they are in enablers.
Moral of the Story? Never ever act in Temper Always act calmly,
And never play with violence in the real world. Get in a ring if you want it that much, or play it on playstation.
It's all a hard man act until CID kick down your mother's door and you're trapped in a cage for the rest of your life.
Did he try to stop the stabbing or save the victim ?
Guilty, guilty and guilty.
People like you are the problem with this country
'in a sense i feel i've lost my son'.. is wild.
Sympathy = zero. In a gang using knives he attacked a stranger he knows wasn't involved and it resulted in death. c4 painting a picture that he's the victim is shameful.
I kinda clicked onto this expecting there to have been an undeniably obvious miscarriage of justice which would be an absolute travesty, but instead this woman is sitting there casually recounting her dear son's immoral actions. Why do you think he was carrying a weapon? He didn't decide to take it out for a nice walk in the moonlight just because. There was clearly intent to do great harm and if he himself couldn't put two and two together that he could cause significant risk to life by wielding that weapon, then we're back to square one- he wasn't raised to understand the consequences of his actions. I always remember my mum's words when I was little. She said she was harsh on me because she was my parent and there are some conversations that are so uncomfortable that others didn't want the hassle of having them with me and it was up to her to raise me with an understanding of my impact in society. I am forever grateful that I wasn't raised by someone like this woman who confuses loving her son with holding him accountable and being able to follow the law.
Hope the parole board don't grant it. Thug like that deserves to never see the light of day. I hope his attitude rubs some inmate the wrong way to give his mum the reality check she needs and the justice he deserves.
Sounds like he's in the right place. He would of ended up killing someone at somepoint. Why would he beat up the lad if he knew he hadnt done it? Prosecution did a good job in this one! Tough shit for him
They murdered an innocent man.
You fel😅l sorry for tge dead boys mother but you say you have lost your son too get reall you can go visit your guilty son and see and talk to him the dead boys mum goes to a grave to see her son no its not the same!
Nope....
He's especially guilty.
Justice served.
Hope you spend the rest of your life...
Fighting for life.
Get rrrrrreeeeaaaalllyyyyy close...
But DENIED 😅😅😅
But dean without u going to look for them man u wouldn't have killed or seen that yute so it's ur fault
I guess its a hard one because I think joint enterprise is appropriate if you can prove everyone had the same intentions. It's s tricky one, so I do feel sorry for the guy if the story he's giving is accurate.
Guilty AF
It is joint enterprise if all three knew the other kid was carrying a knife which I believe they would have then done.
Yes he instigated it, and deserves to be punished as the true murderer was, however, it seems crazy to me that the one who admitted it got less time? I understand it’s because he came forward and the jury found the other two guilty but how can that work? Where the person who really took the life gets less time than the ones who didn’t
What's hard to understand? They all got the same sentence, however you get credit for an early guilty plea. Winston went pled not guilty, got found guilty and received the full tariff.
Furthermore, the judge found he could not say who inflicted the killing blow with certainty.
On top of that Winston's sentence was reduced on appeal to less than Sober-Froud's so the whole narrative 'he got more time' is actually false.
Get it now ,Elly?
Seems just to me
I've got done for a joint Enterprise on a firearm and armed robbery
He's mum is doing what most mums would do. She wants her son out of jail. What patent wants their child behind bars for life?. Sure she's clutching at straws and blind. But I understand it.
Exactly, unless I knew my child had truly committed a crime such as rape or murder, I’d be defending them until my last breath
Parents today. Slags
big 17" amirs will still be in fasion in 24 years yano