Rap Video Landed Us A 10 Year Prison Sentence | Guilty Bystander | Channel 4

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  • Sherpa and Lewi spent nearly a decade in prison for an attack they weren’t present at - and their rap music was used in court as evidence to link them to the crime.
    When a 16th birthday party turned violent in South London in 2009, Sharpa and Lewi hadn’t yet arrived. But the ‘guilty by association’ law meant they could be convicted as part of the gang that carried out the attack - even though they weren’t there.
    Guilty Bystander explores the dramatic stories of people convicted under joint enterprise law, charged with a crime they were not present for, or even knew was going to happen.
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  • @abbiebrown2733
    @abbiebrown2733 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep the tunes coming 😘😘

  • @NatashaONeil-ww5rn
    @NatashaONeil-ww5rn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about the role of bullying in joint enterprise. All of a sudden this against bullying factor disappears.🤔

  • @johnflynn5044
    @johnflynn5044 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I suspect its rare a genuinely innocent person gets caught up.. More a case of sometimes you get away with it and sometimes you cop for one you didnt do. The woman talking about steryotypes is half the problem. It isnt steryotyping. Its clearly an insight into the Psyche of the artists. All the BS about it being an artform is laughable I have rarely seen a report of a killing in London that doesnt make reference to him and/ or the victim, being a rapper or a drill artist.

    • @nurlagrande
      @nurlagrande หลายเดือนก่อน

      You suspect its rare? Gosh why didnt you become a porkie with those investigative skills and intuition 🤣🤣🤣 you would have fit right in with the other slow bacons.

  • @samhart3528
    @samhart3528 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also rap in the uk London or inner city youth culture is criminalsed by people who lack understanding or intelligence and who are often from areas which do not deal with these problemS

  • @blaqueruby4946
    @blaqueruby4946 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    1. The justice system doesn’t care whether a young BM did the crime or not, they’ve been waiting to put them in jail since birth...
    2. The jury doesn’t care if you’re 6,16 or 26+, they see a BM and it’s guilty...
    3. Add a rap video on top, and you’re toast...
    BM don’t get that the system isn’t in your favour. It daily seeks out to get you. Whether you’ve done the crime or not, the ‘justice’ system doesn’t care, it solely seeks to minimise and destroy one any opportunity it gets... Wake Up🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @foodislifestyle3804
      @foodislifestyle3804 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Couldn't have said it any better

    • @adwoamk8918
      @adwoamk8918 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why are our BM rapping about killing people, that's the better question to ask? Psychopathic songs?

    • @DEEORM
      @DEEORM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They wont be honest bro ,its sad ​@adwoamk8918

  • @PurplePerinaise
    @PurplePerinaise ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lol at 'justice system'

    • @nurlagrande
      @nurlagrande หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a corruption system. Its a criminal system. No justice, ever.

  • @DaPs166
    @DaPs166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve never seen folk music gangs singing about stabbing people, must just be me

  • @runrig97
    @runrig97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let that be a lesson to you, if there's a murder at a party, don't go to it.

  • @mr.fukk12
    @mr.fukk12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just watched the intro and I can see how everyone involved in a violent crime that was with the person who went along with them can be charged in the crime cause you pick your friends you decide to go with ppl to do these crimes and if they act up and shoot someone or beat someone and you don’t do anything about it your kind of with them if your not against them. I hate the police with a passion but if I hang out with ppl that are doing violent shit and I don’t stop them than yea I chose to be with a fuckhead. I hate violence as much as I hate police so if I see anyone doing some violent shit I always step in even if I don’t know them unless it’s two men fighting cause that’s mutual that’s them deciding to do some dumb shit whatever happens happens but if I see someone beating a woman or if I see someone getting jumped I usually stop the shit as much as I can. If I have to shoot in the air so nobody get hurt but it stops the violence I can take the time for doing that since shooting in public is a crime as well. I was just in county and these two clowns in the tank that was going to be let out with me saw someone that was getting taken to prison and someone said what he do how much time he get. They said he got domestic violence charge and than someone said was it domestic violence with strangulation? The one dude said yea and laughed so I said if he was in here right now I would beat the living shit out of dude and they said we’re all in this gang we stick together you would have to fight all of us and I said well than it would be 3v1 I don’t give a fuck and they stood up like they were gonna do something and this guy next o me got up and got in they’re face and said your whole gang is pussies and they didn’t want to fight a and they sat quiet the rest of the time and wouldn’t come outside when we got released until we lef

    • @insertname7458
      @insertname7458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, wtf you meant to do if someone your wityh shoots someone, you might not even like the person and theyre just there bc they know someone you know etc. You sound like a child who hasnt lived through shit so please stop speaking on things youve never had to go through.

    • @insertname7458
      @insertname7458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lies and lies lol go peckham or something and try what you say you do. I guarantee you will end up leaving with holes in you, stop trying to be a hero bc when you come across someone who genuinley doesnt give a fuck about their own life nevermind yours, youll regret it.

    • @nurlagrande
      @nurlagrande หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course you can see how, officer bacon🥓 👮‍♀️

  • @summer_jonesjones296
    @summer_jonesjones296 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Why rap about something that promotes and incites violence? We have so many murders as a result of some tracks... Some lyrics go hand in hand with inciting violence.

    • @jantC1
      @jantC1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same reason Tarantino & many others make the violent films they make perhaps?

    • @mr.fukk12
      @mr.fukk12 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jantC1no look at major cities around the world that have large populations of government assisted black ppl. The kids grow up thinking that since my parents didn’t work and they got everything for free that they should get everything for free so they rob and steal and they sell drugs so that the government doesn’t take they’re assistance away for them workint a job than theirs violence from them robbing ppl and the drugs always bring violence and they also see that growing up they’re whole lives cause the government puts all the ppl getting housing in one area so it’s a whole area of ppl thinking that if they work the government will make them pay rent and so they all rob and sell drugs and than it becomes the culture and they don’t know any different so that’s what they rap about and that’s all the live is violence robbing and drug dealing and selling women. Why do you think that all major cities in the western world that have large populations of black ppl have major violence issues? It’s not from slavery and the mindset it’s cause the government pays for they’re rent and food and than they want free life they’re whole life so they take everything and sell drugs. It’s not a tough equation

    • @breathoffreshair7314
      @breathoffreshair7314 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jantC1 Tarantino makes up stories, he doesnt commit murders then make a movie about them.

    • @darcgibson5099
      @darcgibson5099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do cowboys and country singers sing about being gunslingers killing the lawmen and robbing banks? Does that make people killers? Video games feature more killing and are more widespread consumed by kids than any other medium in history, yet violent crime is at an all-time-low and decreasing. People don’t become violent by listening to this music, it’s just a subsection of violent people who are already violent who listen to it, but they also play call of duty and fifa.
      Yknow rap is the most popular genre in the world (I think, at least in “the west”), it’s listened to by people from all walks of life from the whole spectrum of human cultures and statuses. Most, of all cultures, don’t hear some violent lyrics and think “oh wow I’ve gotta to do that now”.
      I would prefer more rappers rap about revolution and liberation but hey I’m not a rapper.

    • @nurlagrande
      @nurlagrande หลายเดือนก่อน

      @breathofshit DID YOU MISS THE PART WHERE THEY DIDNT DO THAT AT ALL OFFICER BACON????? 🥓

  • @1JamesMayToGoPlease
    @1JamesMayToGoPlease ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guarantee you'll never read about Mick Jagger's crew busting a cap on Robert Plant LOL. The problem is gangster rap.

    • @mr.fukk12
      @mr.fukk12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s the same thing with anyone who gets in trouble it’s not about what color or background you come from it’s about who has the money. I know this from experience because I’m always in court and when you have a really high paid lawyer things go your way. I’ve been in both situations where I had a public defender and shit went way south and I’ve had a mid level lawyer and shit still didn’t go very good than I’ve had a well paid lawyer and shit went the way I wanted it to go and even better than I thought in some instances. Look at when rappers have money like chief keef he held a police man with a gun to him and he got probation. Lil durk got caught 3 times with a gun and the last two times they were dropped. The problem with most black ppl is that they’re parents get government assistance and housing which is like someone taking care of you cause they pay your rent they give you food for free and the kids see that they’re mother didn’t have to work a job or sometimes they did most the time they didn’t and they were taken care of so than they grow up and think that since they’re mom didn’t have to work and everything up to them growing up to be a man has been given for free than they think well I’m gonna get more free shit and I’m gonna rob and steal and sell drugs so I can keep my government assistance by not working so than they get in trouble and the government doesn’t pay them for a lawyer so they go to court with a shit or public defender and than they want to say well it’s cause I’m black, no it’s cause you didn’t have any money to pay for a good lawyer since you think everyone owes you something and everything should be free since your parents got everything free your entire life

    • @balumeikle8667
      @balumeikle8667 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no it isn’t.

    • @nurlagrande
      @nurlagrande หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mrslowanddelusional IT IS ABOUT RACE. IT IS ABOUT CLASS. OFFICER BACON 🥓

  • @breathoffreshair7314
    @breathoffreshair7314 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:31 Find me a rock song that references the artist killing someone in a bragging way, and that he actually did that crime. Bet you cant.

    • @nurlagrande
      @nurlagrande หลายเดือนก่อน

      But HE DIDNT actually do the crime are you slow, deaf or just purposely ignoring the facts? I already know the latter.

  • @kylewilliams5761
    @kylewilliams5761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gang member?
    Throw away the key..!!!!