Grand Prix GTP VS BMW M5 drag racing

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  • This is my friend Jon in his BMW M5 just playing around. I get way to hard in the peddle in the first run. second run I calm down a little and take him. Click my chanal to find out what mods I have!!!!
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  • @CoryHollister
    @CoryHollister 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm very impressed with that Grand Prix!! a car half the price of the BMW held it's own

  • @frankiebflat5728
    @frankiebflat5728 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Grand Prix is the best car ever made by man

    • @samsquantch14
      @samsquantch14 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      bahahahaha....god damn i hope you're trolling

    • @frankiebflat5728
      @frankiebflat5728 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      samsquantch14 no

    • @samsquantch14
      @samsquantch14 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      oh...well they had phenomenal engines...but thats about it lol

    • @grapesoder1301
      @grapesoder1301 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean, I love the car, I own one, but could you substantiate your claim?

    • @frankiebflat5728
      @frankiebflat5728 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Talon Ek because I am a grand prix man for life

  • @cortezhawthorne715
    @cortezhawthorne715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dope race

  • @dakotadaniel2376
    @dakotadaniel2376 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gosh damn I wish GM would bring this engine back to its lineup! Hook it up to at least a 8 speed, and with all this weight reduction on there cars it would put out serious power! Fuck all these 4 bangers! Best part it's this 6 cyl got better gas than some of these 4's are!

    • @NIKOSAUTOS
      @NIKOSAUTOS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cant hook up a low revving torque monster to an 8 speed auto man. It would never stay in its optimal power range, and wouldn't put power to the ground efficiently.

    • @TheComputerZombie
      @TheComputerZombie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least a 5-6 speed replacement for the glass-made 4t65

  • @MrAirblown2009
    @MrAirblown2009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @DreamsMemories yes the first run i had lots of wheel spin second run i got the run on him top end and e60 m5 would for sure take me. I really need some drag radials. thanks for the comment

  • @rukeye
    @rukeye 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow those are beautiful times, nothing like American Muscle and German M's

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like!! that could be a good race from a 30 mp role

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It can be fixed with stickier tires and know when to apply the power. having such a powerfull front wheel drive car takes lots of seat time to learn how to drive it.  most people who drive l67 cars think a nice set of $500 all season performance tire is good enough. its not I run P0 summer tire and blizzecks in winter.

    • @MegganTaylor
      @MegganTaylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man that mug fast as heck 😂

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Tboulda Thanks its a 2009 BMW M5 not sure if its a P500s or a E60. but on the end of the video when he drives away it sounds bad ass. I like the M5 a lot there sick rides.

  • @ArbitrageArbitrary
    @ArbitrageArbitrary 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesús cristo man you smoked hard off the line, if you can hook you would've had him. Awesome power bro!!!

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks it's a fun car.

  • @clyde1799
    @clyde1799 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a 98 Regal GS and i love the L67 but that M5 was toying with this GTP and one of our cars biggest downfalls is traction from a launch there has been many tines were i would have busted some ass but i could only get a little over halfway in the throttle until 2nd

  • @Blake-uf4rj
    @Blake-uf4rj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow. M5 is either slow or has a bad driver, no offense, but it shoulda blown your GTP away.

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blake the M5 driver is no race car driver and was not launching the car either. On the streets I can hold up with it after 120 mph the m5 is gong. This same M5 I raced at a 1/4 mile track and it won by a full half second. so on the street it looks close, but we know it's a way faster car!

    • @Blake-uf4rj
      @Blake-uf4rj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What were your quarter mile times?

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blake if I remember right it was around 12.5 trapped around 118 GTP was 13.05 trapped at 103 mph.

    • @Blake-uf4rj
      @Blake-uf4rj 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not bad. What mods do you have on it?

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blake at this time the car had cam, heads, headers, cold air intake, Dyno tuned with all the supporting mods. I love the supercharged motors just lower pulley and put new tune on car.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @sfgriffin20 ya let me know when you post a new video. Ya this was a fun run my friend with the bmq M5 e60 told me he didn't have it in M mode. so im wondering how well he would run with the M mode on. thanks for the comments. be safe out there!!!

  • @abuzayn1
    @abuzayn1 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is one of my favorite videos and the best part is the comments nobody is arguing about which car is better when tuned or w.e lol a youtube comment section without arguments on a car video :-O

  • @USCisgay
    @USCisgay 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    id sure hope that m5 would beat a gtp. gtp's are one of the most underrated cars i love whoopen 20000 dollar ricers in my grocery getter

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice Wbody for the win. Drive fast and take chances!!!

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great cars!!

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @imserious2187 thats why 03 and older gtp's want our GEN 5 blowers and our 4T65E (HD) Transmissions. but thats alright i like all grand prix old or new and all car guys that enjoy modifying cars. don't hate

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @USCisgay Righr on brother!!! I could not agree more and this m5 is more like $58,000 car. lol Yes i love my sleeper its quit and debadged. I also can fit my 3 children in it;-) thanks for the comments I have an intercooler video comming soon.

  • @Tboulda
    @Tboulda 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice run! Nice mod list too. Was your boy in P500s in the M? You have a quick car but the E60 M5 with the right settings and driven properly tips it hat to few vehicles on the road. Check out my page and you'll see the hurting my stock M puts on some bad cars. Be safe out there bro

  • @wildboy92004
    @wildboy92004 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 1998 Pontiac Grand Prix GT I've dumped thousands of dollars into because I love the 3800's so much. Just put new struts, tie rod ends, front wheel bearings, one rear wheel bearing, sway bar, trailer arm in the driver rear and finally my 4 wheel alignment. It still doesn't ride like a luxury vehicle but does not take shock to the suspension as it did before. I had an accident last year so I needed some of these repairs due to that, plus put more money in for a complete paint job and finding those Rocker Panel Assembly Brackets was a pain in the ass as the automotive companies wanted to sell the Rocker Panel along with the Assembly together, not separate, which would have cost $450 but I lucked out finding one in a junk yard paying only $20 for. Now I have to figure out why my defrost doesn't work and stops at the floor vents and not blowing air through the defrost vents.

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well there great cars. Enjoy!

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      wow! that's a lot of work. But it's fun, someday you will have to get practical and just buy a newer car. This way your not always fixing it, you can modify it to make it faster. Good luck and enjoy that 3800!!

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    no not stock lightly modded cold air intake, zzp 304 stainless steel headers, 3" down pipe no cat, 1.9 modified rockers with 90lb valve springs, 180 degree thermistat, colder plugs and smaller pulley (3.5) all with a custome tune from ZZperformance.

  • @rukeye
    @rukeye 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jmrtinez69 its a bad sleeper i could tell it wasnt in m mode because i could see it wasnt pulling the way it should, i live in ny so the winters are fucked up i got a new body cadillac escalade, that shits pretty fast for a truck it has over 400 hp, but im looking to buy a white m5 by this spring or summer

  • @rukeye
    @rukeye 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I said earlier, I used to launch my M5 0 to 60 at about 4.1 seconds, no more than 4.2 all my 0 to 60 times were under 4.4, this is the case with your car, too, it's faster than whey pontiac claims, like a said little things like full tanks, etc make big differences on the quarter mile and 0 to 60 but I'll tell you this much if your gonna get this car be prepared to be at the gas station ALOT the best mile per gallon I ever got was 11.2 and the worst I got was 5.7 mpg in traffic I manhattan

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes e92 M5 H was not in M Mode and exhaust bafals were closed. But on the end of the video when he drives away from me you can hear the car.

  • @markruss1288
    @markruss1288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I raced an m5 with my 91 z28 aluminum heads aftermarket intake beat it til 90 mph and it started pulling me .they ain't slow that's was a 13 flat car probably

  • @USCisgay
    @USCisgay 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a E36 M3 with my basic 3.5 setup the other night. Beat him like a civic. but damn it sure sounded nice.

  • @sfgriffin20
    @sfgriffin20 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice video bro, im thinking of takeing mine out to night make some new videos

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rukeye yes i live in Michigan I know winters!!! lol My grand prix runs a 13.4 1/4 mile correct me if im wrong but a stock 2009 m5 e60 runs about a 12.8 1/4 mile. So it would not be pulling that much. Yes 6th tenth of a second is alot on the drag strip but small on streets. I would still trade my grand prix for any year of a M5.

  • @adamlison5988
    @adamlison5988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You'd be surprised what GT or gtp are capable of, If you have a lot of knowledge You can make your Pontiac pretty fast. just hade to put your mind in to it.

  • @ulrek54321
    @ulrek54321 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    GTP must have serious mods to keep up with an E60 like that.

  • @JJ25lolzjdm
    @JJ25lolzjdm 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dat Pontiac was pullin though

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rukeye Yes he did not have it in M mode so i belive he was more around 400 hp. This is a great car!! I love sleeper especially sedans. what car are you driving now?

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rukeye Nice ya with my driving conditions i normaly get about 16 mpg to 21 mpg. It sucks i know but I do have bigger fuel injectors. My 0 to 60 times on the street are around 4.1 sec and with semi slicks on the track im at 3.2 on a stock transmision and stock Torque Converter.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @veryslowgt thanks yes whats the waight differents?

  • @dumbf7y
    @dumbf7y 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @imserious2187 i have a 04 gtp and from digs i get a lil too much wheel spin so it takes off slow, but from a roll im taking the 03 on down gtp's easily no problem. i love all GTP's though, the older ones look sexy in white my cousin has one and i want it lol

  • @sccarzonesccarzone5582
    @sccarzonesccarzone5582 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    So then it's down like 107hp in like valet mode lol... Still cool.
    I beat an " e60 m5 in e34 540i on slicks".. Litterally google that if you want. Having driven one, it makes ALL the difference

  • @rukeye
    @rukeye 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The m5 is not a 58,000$ lol it's $100,000 new lol but I knew that it wasnt in 507 hp mode Bkuz a lot of people probably say this bit I had that car it is a beast you could either go shopping with your family in it or do 204 mph on the highway and that's the beauty of the Beast lol oh man I miss my baby :(

  • @DubYOUUP
    @DubYOUUP 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey man was the gtp intercooled aswell? that sure looked quick.

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      RealTalk when this video was taken, no. in the later videos yes it was.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol not sure what your saying. Being filmed in the Grand Prix GTP. Grand Touting Prototype, not a lot of people know what GTP stands for. Good Job!

  • @rukeye
    @rukeye 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a lot of cousins in Michigan, I'm Catholic Albanian, 1 second on the quarter mile is a 10 car difference from what I'm told but the M5 does the quarter mile on 12.8 by BMW factory production times, with a full tank, on a pretty hot day, bla bla bla, and so on, no one runs their car on such conditions factory says the 0 to 60 is 4.5 to 4.7 but factory production conditions like I said earlier, I used to launch my M5 0 to 60 at about 4.1 seconds, no more than 4.2 all my 0 to 60 times were u

    • @b58forever
      @b58forever 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      1 second is not 10 cars you moron. Q second is around 3-4 cars in the 1/4 mile

  • @JoyRockzz
    @JoyRockzz 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love my Pontiac.

  • @rukeye
    @rukeye 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Continued.... at about 4.1 seconds, no more than 4.2 all my 0 to 60 times were under 4.4, this is the case with your car, too, it's faster than whey pontiac claims, like a said little things like full tanks, etc make big differences on the quarter mile and 0 to 60 but I'll tell you this much if your gonna get this car be prepared to be at the gas station ALOT the best mile per gallon I ever got was 11.2 and the worst I got was 5.7 mpg in traffic I manhattan

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me too!! To bad im still on the same tires, stock trans and same stall converter. My top end is way faster.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rukeye I'm busted yes the M5 was just playing he was driving it hard but it was just in sport mode and traction controll off. ;-)

  • @kylegier
    @kylegier 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 2000 Grand Prix and a 1998 BMW e39. Both great cars! The grand prix is definitely better in 0-60 acceleration but my e39 can go 70-150 a hell of a lot faster than the grand prix can go 70-120

    • @coolmodee
      @coolmodee 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kyle Gierman These cars don't have a good top end that's why.

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Marquel Johnson ya I agree. just the way there geared. I have gotten mine up to 157 mph on the highway. I also trap 106 mph in the 1/4 mile. it's no sports car. But it's a fun grocery getter.

    • @TheAlpha620
      @TheAlpha620 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya it seems like my grand prix looses alot of balls around 60 to 70mph

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @USCisgay well start small there great projects. compared to other cars there cheap and easy to modifie.

  • @AroundSun
    @AroundSun 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet your brakes love you

  • @MegganTaylor
    @MegganTaylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That gtp quick what is it 3.8L that mug fast like even when you step on the gas it start to flow

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Supercharged 3.8L lightly modified. Really fun car.

  • @Konvinced89
    @Konvinced89 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see someone else appreciates them. I have an 03 Ltd Edition in Ivory White. Feel free to stop by my channel and check it out. Still in work, needs upper exhaust(headers or powerlog and 3" dp), and for sure a tune and new springs. Can't wait to get it ready for track duty, a local guy just bought a black 97 with only 30k miles, and wants to mod too. I gotta keep mine just a little quicker than his. haha

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny I agree. I was just trying to show my friend even with his $80,000 car my $9,000 car could run with him on the street.

  • @adrianakuberan
    @adrianakuberan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video but I don't think the M5 was really trying, was he?

    • @maybe2243
      @maybe2243 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      who would fake a little raCE

  • @juicem4700
    @juicem4700 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What mods do u have bro I have one and I Wana make it like yours

    • @javarisbrown4238
      @javarisbrown4238 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hugo molina he has a supercharged gtp

  • @thecarsectionthecarsection6420
    @thecarsectionthecarsection6420 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not bad Gm but why discontinued Pontiac?

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheCarSection TheCarSection they still own the rights to brand. It will come back some day.

    • @YeetxBoi
      @YeetxBoi 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They still own the rights to the brand it was just not making enough money and I believe they filed bankruptcy at some point and started cutting programs like Pontiac, hummer, etc.

  • @ronnelllittlejohn4679
    @ronnelllittlejohn4679 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd never do my GP like dat

  • @rukeye
    @rukeye 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    That M5 wasn't in M mode it was unleashing 507 hp it was at 400 hp town mode

  • @arbnor538
    @arbnor538 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was that Beamer an m5 though? Cuz it doesn't sound like an angry m5 lol

  • @imserious2187
    @imserious2187 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @dumbf7y yea i like that widetrack stance

  • @santillllan216
    @santillllan216 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That guy didn't know how to run that Pontiac grandrix super, I have put in so many new style cars with mine. Plus it didn't sound that he had the car well maintained...

    • @darewreckz3124
      @darewreckz3124 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      santillllan216 if youre talking about the supercharger whine thats normal for the GTP

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rukeye Yes Sir, couldnt agree more!!!

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks,yes i would probably blow my input shaft or axles lol

  • @brandonmoody8978
    @brandonmoody8978 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what mods were on the car at this point?

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brandon Moody 1.9 Rocker Arms, 90 lbs valve springs, 3" catless downpipe, cold air intake, colder plugs and thermostat, transmission shift kit with raised pressure and ZZPerformance dyno tune.

    • @brandonmoody8978
      @brandonmoody8978 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      jmrtinez69 i just purchased the headers and downpipe and 3.5 pulley for my car finally. Next week getting plugs and wires and thermostat. Just wanted to know where my car would be at. Do i have to get the springs and rocker arms now?

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brandon Moody no you do not have to get harder springs but there pretty inexpensive and your already in there changing the rocker arms. Harder springs will allow you to have more rpms with out valve float which means more hp.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks the BMW owner didnt think so lol. he is a great guy lots of fun.

  • @Smash685
    @Smash685 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you on stock trans?

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes except shift kit and raised shift pressure. All for firmer shifts.

  • @tomsullivan592
    @tomsullivan592 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is a 545i not an M5... a 507hp v10 would destroy you!
    Your car is quick and held its own tho.. faster than expected, credit due there. 545 is no slouch

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. It's a M5 not in M mode. It's a friends car.

  • @USCisgay
    @USCisgay 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jmrtinez69 nice cant wait to fix up my gtp

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    So true but it was lots of fun!!

  • @guyanderson6805
    @guyanderson6805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have the compg

  • @Topdogg4436
    @Topdogg4436 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lets see a gto now

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks it was a good nigh.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Corvette is faster! with a lot louder exhaust.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry i said anything drive fast and take chances;-)

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes an M5

  • @JM811Cars
    @JM811Cars 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roll up your windows...

  • @rcrocks21990
    @rcrocks21990 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    its a m5 love pontiac but uh no it wont beet the m5

  • @ThePhilmoreslim1
    @ThePhilmoreslim1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    cant b an m5 he would walk you regardless if your car was fully worked over

    • @wheeldfreedom8353
      @wheeldfreedom8353 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      come again? there is a turbo GTP that runs the 1/4 mile in 8 seconds look em up cause it seems you done know much in the grand prix world

    • @ThePhilmoreslim1
      @ThePhilmoreslim1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      an e60 M5 would walk this regardless of the turbo GTP get on the M life style , the GTP turbo pumps out less HP and weighs about the same and once again comparing APPLES TO ORANGES

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ThePhilmoreslim1 An e60 is about 500 to 700 lb heavier then a Pontiac GTP. But the facts are a stock GTP will not beat a M5. You are correct we are comparing apples to oranges.

    • @Lucille69caddy
      @Lucille69caddy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ThePhilmoreslim 1 You can keep your repair bill, lol.

    • @regalgn1
      @regalgn1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The M lifestyle LoL. I'll run your damn M5 ain't scared. And yeah it's 3.8 turbocharged in case your wondering.

  • @marshallthreats4643
    @marshallthreats4643 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    that must be an 05 gtp

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes sir

    • @marshallthreats4643
      @marshallthreats4643 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +jmrtinez69 I knew it was an 05 when I saw the dash went to 160

    • @jmrtinez69
      @jmrtinez69  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Justin Szul ya for sure. Actually 97-03 are lighter then 04 + years.

  • @imserious2187
    @imserious2187 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @jmrtinez69 hate, plz

  • @imserious2187
    @imserious2187 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    04+ gtps are slow

  • @archurban
    @archurban 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL. Gran Prix? shut up. it is M5. that's it.

  • @jmrtinez69
    @jmrtinez69  11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It can be fixed with stickier tires and know when to apply the power. having such a powerfull front wheel drive car takes lots of seat time to learn how to drive it. most people who drive l67 cars think a nice set of $500 all season performance tire is good enough. its not I run P0 summer tire and blizzecks in winter.