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For anyone wondering and I don't think I made it clear enough in the video, I did the test footage on the new BMCC full frame 6K. thanks everyone 🙏🏼
Click bait. Gyro stabilisation is using gyro data from the camera, no AI involved. Presumably "AI" was an error in the tweet.
you could layer both clips over each other and with composite mode to add or difference or just 50% you could see if something really changed ^^
Also put the blending mode to difference and you can see exactly where everything is different without the headache of opacity peeping.
in davinci its called composite mode and thats exactly what I mean or do I just missunderstood you xDv @@KurtCollins
@@ShangleLP if you use difference mode it shows you where the 2 layers are different. When they match up it’s perfectly black. So if you compare the clips with difference and you see white lines of bushes, you’ll know they aren’t exactly the same. If it’s all black. They are identical.
Great vid. Nice getting it up so quick!
Camera gyro is available at 3:28
I noticed the strength setting was on the default. It could be more pronounced of a difference with a higher strength setting. More information will probably come out on it as people start using it.
in addition, neither results are fully stabilized. both shots (viewed on a large screen) cause motion sickness
Good stuff guys lots of encounters and some bone and meat to boot! You captured it well real hunting with hard luck stories as well as the highs. 👍
Did you add the lens data Focal Length XXmm on the footage?
HELL YEAH!! Not many peaople get as excited as I do over stabilisation and motion blur plugins :'D
Im curious, maybe try the non gyro options.
Best results for Gyro stabilization happen when you change the shutter angle to 90. It makes the walking footage look like it was shot on a gimbal. Quite literal black magic at work.
This sounds interesting, will give it a try 🙏🏼
Yah, actually even a higher shutter speed might be considered. Any heavy hits of motion will appear at a blurry smear frame after gyro stablization. So if you need to do heavy heavy stabilization with a gyro, it would make sense to plan for it, shoot a very high shutter speed, get rid of a ton of motion blur, stablize with the gyro and create faux stabilization after the fact instead. Here's hoping blackmagic add the ability to create motion blur based on the gyro data, that would be game changing.@@OBP_
Where do you change the shutter angle?
@ there is a dedicated S button for shutter angle
I believe its on the fusion page@
Yes 90 degrees shutter is way better. Also check rolling shutter before and after gyro stability. It supposedly eliminates rolling shutter
So you can only use a BM camera for the updated stabe?
At 1:09 in your video you click on the Read More for the non-Studio version of DaVinci Resolve. AI is only available in the Studio version. The Read More for the Studio version also says nothing about AI Stablilization. Did you use the Studio version of 18.6.5 in your test?
Are you using the Regular Version or the Studio version? The AI stablization is listed as AI stablization on the Resolve Studio version on the description look at your video at 1:41
Yes it does say that but it also states it’s updated for the newer BMPCC 6K and Micro studio camera 4K.
Same Gyro stabilization just for those two additional cameras.
Not sure why they characterized it is as A.I.
Love these Blackmagic update vids!
I've read that it's for the 6k FF and the new 4k studio cube. You didn't mention which 6k you are using.
Thanks for the review and tests. Why did not you test in 4K DCI? At the moment, Gyro stabilization only works in 6K Open Gate or 6K DCI mode. In 4K DCI mode, Gyro stabilization does not work. since the camera does not take into account the 1.57x crop and there is no way to adjust the focal length. This menu is not active. It's the same story with HD.
Weirdly enough, the pre-update stabilization looks slightly better in my eyes - thanks for the test
Before update i have problem with sound in postproduction. But before rendering sound is ok. 🤔
gyro never warps from my experience. it only seems to crop in. I prefer it over other methods. I'm also a bit new. using the 6k pro not the new ff
Did you add your lenses and focal lengths to your slate on the camera? That metadata absolutely helps the gyro stabilize work better.
Didn't know that, thanks!
Does the video's frame by frame still bug (glitch) out?
Everyone loves slapping A.I onto stuff now. “Script sync AI” “stabilization AI (only on cameras with a built in gyroscope)” wait for “roto brush AI”
Thank you for this video
I use a 360 camera to shoot videos of dogs in motion at their level. I've been overlaying a grid and keyframing to keep them scaled and centered when reframed. If I could use the Planar Tracker instead of keyframing practically one frame at a time, my workload would be greatly reduced. However, when I put Tracker points on the 360 MediaIn node they also show up on the reframe node and as soon as a dog leaves that frame, it stops tracking. I've tried both KartaVR and Reframe360 with the same dismal results.
I also walk around with my Insta360 X3 on a pole, and though the stabilization is terrific, there is some bobbing around that should be able to be fixed with tracking in the 360 MediaIn node.
I need to get some more dog shots, and when I do, I'm planning on not using any reframing plugin. Instead I want to try using the Camera Tracker on the 360 and Planar Tracker on that virtual camera node. Do you (or anybody reading this) think that might work? Or might you have some other suggestions?
Would you please make a video about tracking in 360. Every tutorial about tracking that I've seen deals only with standard frames.
It might be in the non camera gyro settings?
Think you mean camera RAW settings right? Checked and everything seems the same
Does the camera Gyro option work with other brands Gyro data such as Sony?
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I think the AI is doing other things like focal length of your lens, and maybe other lens characteristics that contribute to how the gyro stabilization is applied (including the motion blur model). I would also check to see if it is still dumb about following a shot where the shot falls apart (like a major bump or collision) and then reacquires - the previous gyro stabilization would fall apart because it would try and average the whole thing. Maybe this version avoids that. I'll check and see.
Is this video recorded in 60fps?
They really did something magic! I shot a lot underwater and sometimes the movement is so strong that I end up with useless footage until this morning that I installed the new update and immediately after have to comment this on the davinci resolve FB group
Resolve 18.6
One of the most challenging footage I've filmed, and only because of how hard it was to stabilize a few months ago. I was never able to do it, neither with gyro nor regular stabilization. However, with this new update, I thought I have to try the ultimate test because if this new version can stabilize this, it can stabilize anything. This almost looks like AI-generated because before, it would crop in so much that it was impossible to see anything in the frame.
Just thought about letting y’all know. I’ll do more testing with the 6k mounted on a FPV drone next time.
It's very possible the AI model is helping w/ processing speed. It'll be interesting how this evolves. Thanks for looking at it.
I’m so confused, it honestly looked like nothing was stabilised at all. Except maybe the walking clip, but still coulda been better
Black Magic is a good company which is why I own a lot of their gear including: 2 cameras fully kitted out and 2 switchers ,software etc....but sometimes.....
You nailed it AI is generally a marketing thing only! ChatCPT helps in marketing much more than on any other topic. And the gyro based stabilization is for wide angle lenses up to 60mm lenses. The stabilization analysis is the most processing demanding thing which is not needed in gyro data bases stabilization. The gyro data need just be adjusted to the focal length. So far I know the gyro based stabilization also reduces the rolling shutter effect which is the biggest plus here!
Is this ai stab. is just for bmd cametas
it would make sense to me that the other stabilisation algorythms got an update that are ai powered.
gyro data is like you give the programm all the necessary information already
Exactly. Why would Gyro Stab need help? it already has all the information it needs.
04:55 I have very bad eyes, but the updated version looks a little bit less "blury" (or more detailed, i dunno how can i describe it)
Maybe it needs to be more shakey to be a noticeable difference
maybe its for Fpv footage like gyro flow?
Great video - I'm still on 18.6.4. I don't know why...
00:02 New update to DaVinci Resolve with a focus on AI Stabilisation.
01:08 Davinci Resolve 18.6.5 update changes AI stabilization to gyro stabilization for Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K.
02:01 Testing AI stabilization in Davinci Resolve 18.6.5 update
02:59 AI Stabilization in Davinci Resolve 18.6.5 remains unchanged.
04:01 Davinci Resolve 18.6.5 update adds AI stabilization, but users are not seeing significant improvements.
04:59 Davinci Resolve 18.6.5 update introduces AI stabilization, showing differences in vibration and AI processing.
06:06 Davinci Resolve 18.6.5 Update enhances stabilization and overall performance
07:06 The AI stabilization update in Davinci Resolve 18.6.5 may not offer significant changes.
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That walking shot on 4:49 stabilized, would be still unusable for me. Although I not using it, I like BlackMagic, but this update does not impress me in your test. Maybe have to see some tests.
Perhaps they use AI to figure out motion in non-gyro camera footage? Or... perhaps the change is to how it addresses some of the typical side-effects of stabilization, such as shots with textures rendering with jitters or moire effects?
Another excellent video! And off-topic, is it my imagination, or are these two computer setups creating a slight difference in the exposure or colors of the stabilized clips??
Yeh right, I wondered what was happening. I think it's related to the gammer shift that happens on apple computers, with the other footage coming from a windows PC
Use rec 709 A for Mac I think
@@OBP_ Interesting, thanks!
Wow, I need it
Why the change is because people in the creative community are usually very much against AI at the moment
Is it reduces resoliution when aplied?
Yes a little
You probaby need Lens Meta Data to use camera gyro data. Probably wont wokr with manual lenses.
I'm 100% sure it's the same old stabilization they have with the other supported cameras. It was sometimes referred to as AI and I suppose it's technically true even if it's not a generative AI or anything.
wow quick!
So. Probably there was a slip up there at BMD. Gyro Stabilizing has been there for quite a while. Not much AI, it just uses the gyro data from the BRAW to guide the stabilizer. As this data is camera specific, they probably needed the camera firmware to be updated before they could add it to Resolve.
Also, You can, in the color tab, reduce stabilizing and zoom to crop to zero to get just the rolling shutter reducer bit because, since it knows hiw the sensor was moving, it can negate the rolling shutter that comes from camera movement. I am a big fan of this.
One other possibility is that they actually are working on AI powered stabilizing that reconstructs image data that regular stretch and skewing can't fix. Maybe even some kind of Out or in painting to fill gaps after stabilizing. And 3D clean plate generation for Fusion. And that slip up in the announcement was just them accidentally revealing something slated for v19 on NAB 2024. :D
you dont even check the Basic Perspective stabilization... why you think it only must be in Gyro Stab?
Hmm... I dunno, I feel that walking one was actually much smoother on the after side...
In the first one, it's steady enough but the fact that you're WALKING is super obvious because it shifts from left to right. On the second one, it still had the handheld look but seemed to shuffle along a bit unsteady, but straight, more like an old tracking shot from the '30s.
Whatever the case, I honestly think we're going to reach the point that as long as you didn't actively shake the camera, and you shot it with post stabilisation in mind, you'll be able to get essentially any look you want.
I think this might be marketing department trying to push for AI for marketing on the blackmagic website vs what it is. I think they tried to do the same in the past with SuperScale. Its not AI even if page says it is, but in manual it clearly does not mention AI and says its just regular more complex algorithm. I assume that is the case here as well. Marketing team pushing for AI even if its not. Best to relay on official release notes from the development team and also official manual when available.
🌶 In general terms, gyroscopic stabilization does not aim to completely eliminate jitter, as any other with a change in perspective would do. Gyroscopic stabilization reads the camera's gyroscope data and, while maintaining natural movement, combats perspective distortion and gives elasticity when moving while maintaining natural movement. As I think, it still needs to be completed and shot as on a suspension, then it will make sense to use it.
The only reason why you are not noticing any different with BMCC6K gyro stabilisation on this version of Davinci Resolve is because Blackmagic have delayed the firmware for this camera that would have taken advantage of the enhancement made in Davinci.
Interesting, where did you hear this? I'd love to find out more information
What made you decide that it is based on the GYRO STABILIZATION? I'm not even sure why you would need AI if you have GYRO data. If anything AI would be useful with a perspective or other kind of stabilize. Something that needs to use the IMAGE rather than having the external data.
You nailed it Brother **Marketing Dept Hype BS**...next it will be Pet rocks with amazing AI
Blackmagic needs to prepare for the looming mass exodus from Windows to Linux when Microsoft makes accounts mandatory...
Does it work for 6k pro
It did previously, and for 4K and regular 6K (provided you updated the firmware)
You also need to turn off any optical stabilisation on the lens if it has it
Maybe the “AI” was added to the other stabilization methods and not the gyro method? Gyro is using actual data recorded into the BRAW and would need artificial intelligence to solve the stabilization, because the numbers are in the data. It would need AI on the other methods considering they don’t have data on the camera movement and would make more sense for AI to be utilized. Just a thought. Now I’m going to go try. lol.
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Seems they added gyro stabilization for new BMCC (not BMPCC). They thought this is AI stabilization :) Check BMCC footage before/after update
But the Gryo stabilization was always available on the BMCC.
Yeh the new BMCC has always had the gyro that's why it's so confusing
Good video. But the music is annoying. Thanks. toronto canada.
Adobe keep showing tech demos for years now meanwhile Blackmagic is actually putting in ai in their software and making it work
i see the difference but youd have you be eye balling the details but to a normal person they would not notice nothing
People are over using the the term ai. Half the time its not even ai. This is a prime example
Adding the word 'AI" (even when it was already so) is a marketing ploy. It gets more sale due to AI memes and Chat GPD being so popular now. I have been seeing that a lot lately with different products.
You can basically call anything you want to "AI", it's just a bunch of IF ELSE clauses in the code half the time (or another language's version of conditionals). It's not learning anything and performing better after it's done the work for you a time or two. People coded the program to do a certain thing under certain conditions. I'd say they're just hopping on the train of calling it AI for the hype that elicits in people.
AI is ONLY for specific BMD cameras. Other cameras gain no benefit.
This is not how gyro stab works properly. Unusable. Coming from SteadXP. If gyro works it´s an absolut smooth image. Too bad.
Digital stabilization is horrible unless u like the cropped warped look
Davinci has the worst stabilization ever it is a total joke, it doesnt even come close to warp from adobe. Basically the only reason I still have after effects or premiere installed is that fact that Resolve can not stabilize some footage , but I use only DV for editing and grading so sometimes I have to stabilize some clips in AE and import them back to DV. Black Magic should really look into their crappy stabilization imo
I see zero difference....possible one of the most useless updates to a video program I have ever seen (I used Premiere/AE for years)
3:20 thank me later all that blabla before is noooooo needed....
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