Razor may have been "The Bad Guy" but him putting over Kid and then remaining best of friends until his unfortunate passing is one of the greatest and most humble stories in wrestling. We all need a friend like that.
As a Latino, I am not now, nor have I ever been upset about Scott Hall pretending to be latino. I liked Razor Ramon more than some of the actual latino superstars that were around at the time.
As a youth I had no issues with it, but as a man now I can understand their gripes. It's the same issue with Pacino who is not Latino playing a Cuban drug dealer. It just boils down to how much you want to care
There's a photo out and about with prime Razor Ramon hanging out with a bunch of Hispanic fans. They loved him and didn't care that he wasn't really Latino. That's how you can tell how good someone really is - like Slaughter convincing people he legit was in the military when he wasn't.
Jesus wasn't perfect because he's a murderer and rap*ist in the bible. Since he's God in the bible, he ordered for babies and women to die and keep little girls as sex slaves. “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” - Numbers 31:17-18
Well, he'd have to get in line behind: Ted DiBiase, Paul Orndorff, Curt Hennig, Roddy Piper, Dusty Rhodes, Jimmy Snuka, among others. But I always liked Hall, thought he was a great performer. He was perfect for the upper mid-card: didn't look out of place when he was in main events, could make other guys look better, etc. And as his shoot interviews attest, he had a really sharp mind for the creative side of things. If he could have stayed sober, he could have made substantial contributions behind the scenes.
@MrHannibal69 the difference between razor and the other guys u mentioned is that razor got over in the "new generation era" where there was less stars and the wwf was at its worst creatively and financially. so it made more sense for him to get a title run than the others on the list
@@c.s3369 I have to respectfully disagree. All those guys I mentioned had much bigger peaks during bigger eras of the business, and were also bigger in different territories. For example, if Vince hadn't been able to steal Hogan from Verne Gagne, his plan was to put the belt on Dusty when he took WWF national. Hennig had already been the AWA champ by the time he got to WWF. Orndorff had mega feuds with Hogan at the peak of WWF's business, and was the backup option if Andre was physically unable to work WM III. I love Hall as a personality and performer, but he was a high-midcard guy, not a main event guy. Hall himself even knew that and talked about it in shoot interviews. He knew he didn't belong in main events with Shawn Michaels, etc.
Scott Hall as Razor Ramon was fantastic, he really bucked the trend in WWF in 1992-3 where there was a big fall-off in the roster, and other newcomers/returnees and their gimmicks weren’t up to standard. And it’s worth remembering that he was in the WWF for l think less than four years! But he immediately looked and felt main event calibre, with a completely different attitude and personality, and was always a star. He, and a lot of WWF all time greats, weren’t actually there for very long, shorter on average than the vast majority of recent and current wrestlers, but they left far more memorable legacies.
He was in WCW immediately beforehand, as The Diamond Studd, nearly exactly the same look, same in-ring, same moves, and it did absolutely NOTHING at the bottom of the card. It took the Razor Ramon name and persona to really unlock Scott Hall as a larger than life personality, and WWF going for it and pushing him as a top star almost immediately.
@@brianbenoit6883Just because someone has 10 years of experience does not make them main event ready. There's plenty of wrestlers today that have been around 15-20 years and aren't even close to Scott Hall's persona. Hall was made a star because he worked hard and came across as a really cool dude. Vince saw this and capitalized on it.
The picture of Hall, Nash, Taker, Shawn, Paul Bearer, and HHH always sticks with me because it looked like he fit right in with all of the top guys who carried WWF through the early to mid nineties before things really went off the cliff and you had Shawn and Taker really being the only guys who carried the fledgling on their backs while WCW was about to transition into the NWO era.
There is no way anyone called Hall "the most boring wrestler they had ever seen". If you simply look at in ring and mic skills, Scott Hall is 1000000 times the pro wrestler Hulk Hogan was!
He was referring to when he was in AWA and USWA in the mid 80s. He went to WCW as Diamond Stud. He didn't get a great personality until WWF as Razor in 92.
I saw Scott Hall take on Brett Hart at a house show in Madison Wisconsin somewhere around '93 and they just brought the house down. He lived a troubled life but was an incredible talent.
He was brilliant in the ring in the WWF, right up there with the best in the business, the matches with Bret Hart, Mr Perfect, Randy Savage, 1 2 3 Kid, Jeff Jarrett, he made Diesel look incredible when he was very green, and people forget for all his talent, how unproven Shawn Michaels actually was as a top singles talent at that time, the matches with Razor really elevated Shawn more than anybody else could.
I got to meet Scott a bunch of times at wrestling cons and at some wwe event through a friend that worked for wwe and he was always a nice guy. Never rushed you off and would joke around with you and took pictures and was just all around nice guy from my interactions with him. Happy I got to meet him.
Had no idea the pandemic & his mental state set him all the way back. Was so sad, truly heartbreaking. A good human who fell to his demons. RIP Scott, we miss you.💪💥🔥
Yeah me neither I thought he had died because of health issues in his latter days, because of the addictions he had when he was at his lowest. Tragic he fell back to his demons 😢
He’s not just the best wrestler to never win the title, but he’s the only wrestler I’ve ever seen who truly didn’t need to. He was literally so talented and over, a title would’ve added nothing.
@@chrischar9428 no,just the time period I started watching.id probably watched diamond stud and paid no real attention so at my age i probably thought was a different person
I remember being super excited as a kid when they started doing his promos as razor Ramon! It was one of the best lead ups to introducing a character right up there with Taker!
0:01: 📖 Exploration of Scott Hall's personal life and past incidents, shedding light on unknown aspects to many. 4:48: 🎥 Analysis of A&E's portrayal of Scott Hall and his family background in wrestling. 9:17: 💪 Hall's determination to break into wrestling, despite challenges and bad gimmicks, led to success. 14:00: 📺 Overview of Scott Hall's transition to WWF after WCW run and impact on his persona and speaking voice. 18:57: 🎬 Hulk Hogan credits Scott Hall for inspiring him to turn heel and join the NWO group. 23:29: 📺 Scott Hall's turbulent journey post-WCW, from WWE return to personal struggles and missed opportunities in TNA. 28:32: ⭐ Importance of proper presentation and push in making wrestling stars highlighted through Scott Hall's success. Recap by Tammy AI
Similar to Jake Roberts; Scott Hall was an amazing talent who was constantly held back by his demons. He could have been an amazing regular main event guy if he was more dependable. He made it there occasionally as it is. R.I.P. He was one of my favourites
For those unaware, the Favored Nations clause came in at a point where Bischoff and WCW were legitimately concerned that Hall and Nash were somehow going back to WWF. Hall and Nash knew they weren't, but seized the opportunity to get more money out of the company. So, when Bischoff and Co. came to them with their 'This is the most we can afford. We can't go any higher' offer, Nash and Hall countered with the Favored Nations idea. That if it were true then they wouldn't be able to bring in anyone else for more than what they were getting. The one person excluded from the clause was Hogan, since nobody made what Hogan made. WCW then said they can't do it for 'everybody' they bring in and had Hall and Nash list ten guys. For whom, if WCW brought them in, Hall and Nash would have to get a raise that equals what the new guy was getting. Bret Hart was one of the ten names. The Undertaker was also one of the ten. Which is why Nash tried to convince Taker to jump shit around 99', but Taker decided to stay and Vince took care of him in the long run.
Supposedly WCW believed that Hall & Nash were going back to WWE after hearing about that skit where "Razor Ramon & Diesel" had jumped Savio Vega. Because their WCW contracts hadn't been locked in yet. That's where they offered more money to make sure they stayed.
It wasn't a full-blown bio, but the Dark Side episode on the Chris Benoit tragedy was heartbreaking. It tied in with Eddie Guerrero and how terrible his pill addiction, recovery, and sudden death were. Benoit was never the same and it was a slow decline mentally and physically afterwards that ultimately led to the darkest weekend in pro wrestling history. Hall was a hard watch because I didn't know his story as well. RIP Razor
@Rjensen2 this ain't the own you think it is, he's a two time Hall of Famer and certified wrestling legend, his legacy will live forever in wrestling history
It's a crime Kevin Nash got to be WWF champion and Scott didn't. Razor Ramon is one of, if not the coolest gimmick ever. This is a broad statement but truly one of the most underrated wrestlers of all time. His punches were beautiful
@@Loe_Jist Agreed. Im not one of those people that thinks everyone should be a world champion but i do think Vince has made some interesting booking decisions over the yrs.
@@j86485 Idk I kinda feel like he still would have been on the midcard cause Austin would have outshined him like he did everyone else. For some reason I just don't think he would have been a main event guy in the WWF in the attitude era. I think both Hall and Nash made the right choice to jump to WCW
Scott Hall's WCW career. June 1996 to March 1997 on TV. April 1997 rehab. May 1997 to March 1998 on TV. April 1998 rehab. May 1998 to Feb 1999 on TV. March 1999 to Sept 1999 got injured and giving time off due to his issues. Oct 1999 to Feb 2000 on TV. March 2000 to Oct 2000 suspended for incident with his gf Emily Sherman who was Brad Siegel's niece. Nov 2000 two shows with ECW. March 2001 to Oct 2001 works for NJPW.
You know Brian brings up a very good point. I have known a few people who had addictions and went to rehab and the ones who it sticks for tell me that the reason they kept clean was they kept busy. Also four of the six people also said leaving the area they lived and moving somewhere else was helpful. I am a larger guy and I have been on three cruises and each time people have said that I would return five kilos heavier because of the food, but because I had something to do for every minute I was awake on the cruise's, I actually lost four kilos each cruise. If you have an addiction or you are easily tempted by drugs, sugar or anything then keep busy doing something else.
I remember seeing Hall in the ring live, TV didn't really do that man justice. Not just size, he had a presence, there was that whole commanding attention thing that few people had back then, don't know that anyone in the ring now does.
It really was a beautiful tribute. It showed how troubled he was. But truly how much of a good man he was, despite his inability to see it, and how much he was loved by everyone that knew him.
The Terry Gordy dark side of the ring was one of the best episode done Jim was great as usual I had no idea how great Gordy was I been watching Gordy matches since
He was absolutely the best in my opinion!!! Big, strong athletic and great in the ring and safe to work with, all wrestlers have said!!! Mic 🎤 skills were second to none as well!!! Rip 🙏 Scott Hall!!! Hey Yo!!!!
if we're talking parody pun wrestlers, i always thought of a character called Laser Límon. what cuts better than a razor? a laser!! and he would dress in bright lemon yellow and always have a sort of sour lemon expression on his face.
We had Scott Hall come in to a show for SWO in York, PA back in 2007, 2008...not sure what year. He was part of a Six Man tag match, teaming with the babyfaces in the blow-off of a feud. He was on his game that night. No signs of intoxication. The show was a fundraiser that raised too few funds, because of his fee and they paid his air fair.
Scott had a pretty hard life with ups and downs and it was sad how he passed away and it took so long for someone to be alerted that he needed help after his fall. Such a great talent tho when he was at his best
Best thing about Scott hall he protected his finish. Nobody ever kicked out of his razors edge and in matches he jobed for, hall didnt use it. Tired of modern wrestling everyone kix out of everything.
@@gregweisal5542his bump taking the stunner was absolutely fucking majestic! He took and sold that to immaculate perfection. Scott was so damn talented. He is absolutely on my Mt. Rushmore of favorite pro wrestlers.
@@iamcasihart i saw an interview with him. They asked y he was never a world champion he said he didn't want it. Jokes brett...the clique called him the 100k champion cause Brett didn't care how much he made as long as he was the champion.....that didn't last long. Hall never wanted the world title as much as he just wanted paid and he never really needed it either. Would have been nice if he ended the streak instead of nash but whatever. Still one of my favorites and I hate seeing ppl use the crucifix powerbomb so ppl can kick out of it. Damien priest cough
Jim doesn't like to trash people who were; good to him & his colleagues, had respect & drive for the wrestling business, didn't make absolutely stupid decisions as a personality flaw, and weren't just evil POS's. Scott may have done some things that Jim disapproves of, and I think he's willing to cut him a little slack for it. That's fair though.
Wasn't the manager also married to another woman? I believe they showed his death certificate, and correct me if I'm wrong but it said he weighed less than 150 lbs.
@@bingeMAFIAif that’s true idk what the fuck he was thinking. Scott was literally twice his size. If you’re gonna pull a gun then use it and don’t give dude the chance to take it from you
@@SpaceGhost92 Could've also played a part in Hall's depression, killing a guy he easily outmatched size wise. I'll have to rewatch this, and the WWE network doc to get confirmation.
Saw him in an event at the Lowell memorial auditorium in 1994 (shawn was champ and headliner). He and Kid we signing autographs and signed my report card... Wish I still had it 😢
The PTSD from the shooting combined with his family’s horrible history with alcoholism led to his demons haunting him until the rest of his life. It’s a shame because as a kid I LOVED Razor Ramon. The gimmick was superb and he was such a tremendous worker. Him and Nash going to WCW was why I quickly became a WCW fan. I don’t know what his contract situation like with WCW but I know he wasn’t there at the end because in 2000 ECW mentioned Hall was working there but sadly had to let him go as well because he was so fucked there as well. I just hope he’s now in a better place and free of pain
I love that Jim says he doesn’t have an accent, because when I first started listening to his podcast years ago I told my dad that he sounded like he was from Louisville 😂 Me too Jim, me too.
I watched a shoot interview with hall, and they had other kliq members before he was on there. All were asked a question of who would you sleep with, merry, and kill, to the other members of the kliq and each said they would kill Scott. After hearing that Scott looked so depressed and stated all my friends want me dead. It's was almost like he was asking him self if his friends were real friends.
During 98 to closing, you may have only seen hall maybe 20 to 25 times. Check out wrestling bios on the monday night wars and since the start of 99, i dont think i have seen hall but once and that was when flair was in the mental hospital
I see where Jim's coming from with his point on how he doesn't get that people just can't get it together when you have so many people trying to help you. It's easy to think like that when you're not a drug addict. I have no idea about that world. It's sad that Scott could never defeat his personal demons.
Also, Jims no he one out here wrestling, busing his ass every night needed to take pain killers and booze. Jim took one dodgy bump off a scaffold and was fked up looking for pain meds. Can you imagine him going through an actual wrestling career?
As someone who watched someone I cared about go down that downward spiral. It was a constant and at times an overwhelming struggle. Most of the time seemingly just to prolong the inevitable. So I never under estimate how lucky I am to see the person I love defeat their demons.
I’m also so fucking tired of hearing addiction referred to as “demons.” It’s a way of both watering it down, whilst simultaneously being melodramatic by making it adjacent to “Satan” or some supernatural battle of good vs. evil. Addiction is fucking REAL and it is so human. There’s nothing otherworldly about it. It’s a disease, just like cancer and bipolar are diseases. I wish more people had the capacity to comprehend shit. I wish more people had true and full understanding of addiction, and how it is *always* a family disease, as well. It is damn near painful to be an emotionally intelligent person living in a world where the vast majority of people are just fucking idiots or very black and white in their thinking. Corny isn’t an idiot at all. But he also isn’t that emotionally plugged in or capable of understanding just how complicated and difficult it is for a person with mental illness with or without addiction.
@@iamcasihart I've been around my share of drugs and no one ever jammed them down my throat to make sure I get addicted to them. Addiction is a choice you make when you take that first hit and then decide to take more....not a frickin airborne disease you picked up in public one day or a condition you didn't realize you had that progressed over time through no fault of your own . I have addicts in my family. I have told them to shut up whining about it cause it could have been me but I'm not stupid enough to put needles in my arms or take random pills someone offered me or smoke crack. I also tell them if they rob anything to pay for their fix, I will know it's you and kick your ass. Sorry I'm not sorry.
@@iamcasihart Amen... I totally agree with you. Willpower means nothing against a disease. Ignorance Is high when people from the outside try to judge the alcoholic or addict..
RIP Chico. The Bad Guy will always be remembered . Thx for the memories ❤. The Bad guys made so many contributions to business from putting others over (Kid, DDP), NWO, Sting Crow character, Ladder match, etc
The covid shut downs hurt a lot of people mental health wise. Was really sad how Scott fell off the wagon after a few years of being clean and doing better
Loved how the documentary mentioned the indies exploiting Scott but never made one mention of that horrid WCW storyline about his struggles. It was horrible to see what ptsd did to Scott.
I loved Scott. Once he got his feet under him (early days) he WORKED that ring. I think the heart of his problem was he never felt he was good enough for anything. When DDP had him up in Atlanta he set up a scheme to have people donate to pay for medical work that hadn't got done, his hip primarily. I'm a Scott Hall mark, I kicked in a bit and by God I got my phone call. You would think a man that big, that good looking couldn't make you feel for him and he didn't. I just felt for him. He never thought he was going to live long and he didn't but I'm glad he was here.
Hogan said in another recent interview that when Warrior came into the WWF, he asked Vince if he could turn heel and be called "Triple H- Hollywood Hulk Hogan" but Vince wasnt having it.... 😐 (Its clear that Hogan daydreams about "Wouldn't that have been cool" stuff, and then tries to alter history )
Kevin Nash claims to be Scott Hall's best friend, but he was his biggest enabler. Nash could handle the partying. Scott could not, and Kevin knew it. Yet Nash kept dragging him to the clubs and kept the pills flowing. It's a wonder that everyone in The Kliq, except Triple H, didn't drop dead years ago due to their lifestyle.
Hall was one of the few guys with stroke, money, and size willing to give underneath guys the rub (no jokes, please haha). I think he learned a lot from Perfect on psychology and how the business is supposed to work. Whereas other guys became giant marks for themselves (Hogan) or had no respect for the business and just saw it as a means to extract cash (Nash).
Like so many others during lockdown destroyed so many. Never recovered. Sad to think how healthy and great he was before. De-aged about 15 years, beat his demons… Then isolation destroyed him..
Travis did the man Justice with this artwork. Scott Hall’s promos were ok but the way he carried himself made him a star. It also helps to be 6’6 270 and cool.
I never knew Scott killed a guy in self defense. It doesn’t change anything but it sheds light on the trauma that helped spawn his addiction. As a fan in the 90s I like NOT knowing everything about everyone. Especially wrestlers, no wonder this modern age is soo tricky. Everyone is trying to find their balance between the wacky world of wrestling and the rapid exchange and integration of social media
Razor may have been "The Bad Guy" but him putting over Kid and then remaining best of friends until his unfortunate passing is one of the greatest and most humble stories in wrestling. We all need a friend like that.
Put over DDP against WCWs wishes and even Tanahashi in Japan.
Gosh, I couldn't agree more
I was at my first live show at the North Charleston coliseum when I was 7 and saw them go.
Put Jericho over in WCW too sadly Chris just burries him bc hall liked picking on people lol
Bad times don't last forever but bad guys do!
He used to come into my gas station in Orlando. He was a nice guy.
No, he was a bad guy. Stick to the script!
@@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku😂 Yes lets stick to the script
@@TeezyHadaBaby 🤝
Did he ever throw a toothpick in your face?
No, but he always had a million of them.
As a Latino, I am not now, nor have I ever been upset about Scott Hall pretending to be latino. I liked Razor Ramon more than some of the actual latino superstars that were around at the time.
As a youth I had no issues with it, but as a man now I can understand their gripes. It's the same issue with Pacino who is not Latino playing a Cuban drug dealer. It just boils down to how much you want to care
There's a photo out and about with prime Razor Ramon hanging out with a bunch of Hispanic fans. They loved him and didn't care that he wasn't really Latino. That's how you can tell how good someone really is - like Slaughter convincing people he legit was in the military when he wasn't.
@J.P.G.78 so non Whites shouldn't be playing White roles
@@SeamHead33 I said I could understand, I didn't say I agreed. There's a difference, it's called being objective
@@SeamHead33only black people bitch and cry about stuff like that. Us Hispanics aren’t a bunch of whiny bitches 😂😂😂
" Remember this. The last perfect man that walked the earth was nailed to a cross." Scott Hall
How appropriate for Good Friday.
Jesus wasn't perfect because he's a murderer and rap*ist in the bible. Since he's God in the bible, he ordered for babies and women to die and keep little girls as sex slaves. “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. but all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” - Numbers 31:17-18
Hogan saying Scott Hall was the inspiration for him turning heel is his idea of putting someone over clean
😂😂😂😂😂 let's hope he wasn't lying
Digging the Scarface background! 👍🏽
"You need people like me, so you can point your f*ckin' fingers and say: That's the bad guy!"
Vince wanted him to be a GI Joe Babyface. Scott dropped the Tony Montana heel idea on him. Vince hadn’t seen Scarface, but went with it.
This has to be a t-shirt somewhere
That cockroach killed Manny! He got what was coming to him.
Scarface is the best movie ever made.
Met him once at an Outsiders signing and told him how it made my week. He seemed genuinely touched. Sweet guy at heart. ❤
I've said it for years and will always stand by it. If Hall would have not struggled so much with his demons he would have been unstoppable.
He didn’t struggle until the end.
Great job on the pic, Travis. Nice tribute.
You people, you know who I am, but you don't know why I'm here.
Money 😂
Scotch Hall.
To destroy a company from within, using my contract to force the company to go bust.
@@blaizecunningham6080unfair to Scott hall. Bishoff had the pen of a billionaires money. Had ted turner not sold TNT WCW would still be on today
I know why you’re here, you want the baconator and a large Diet Coke.
Whenever there's a conversation about who should have been WWF champion but never was, Razor Ramon always comes up in everyone's top 5.
He wasn't ever quite over enough to get that spot and then left for WCW when he was close to it.
Well, he'd have to get in line behind: Ted DiBiase, Paul Orndorff, Curt Hennig, Roddy Piper, Dusty Rhodes, Jimmy Snuka, among others.
But I always liked Hall, thought he was a great performer. He was perfect for the upper mid-card: didn't look out of place when he was in main events, could make other guys look better, etc. And as his shoot interviews attest, he had a really sharp mind for the creative side of things. If he could have stayed sober, he could have made substantial contributions behind the scenes.
@MrHannibal69 the difference between razor and the other guys u mentioned is that razor got over in the "new generation era" where there was less stars and the wwf was at its worst creatively and financially. so it made more sense for him to get a title run than the others on the list
@@c.s3369 I have to respectfully disagree. All those guys I mentioned had much bigger peaks during bigger eras of the business, and were also bigger in different territories.
For example, if Vince hadn't been able to steal Hogan from Verne Gagne, his plan was to put the belt on Dusty when he took WWF national. Hennig had already been the AWA champ by the time he got to WWF. Orndorff had mega feuds with Hogan at the peak of WWF's business, and was the backup option if Andre was physically unable to work WM III.
I love Hall as a personality and performer, but he was a high-midcard guy, not a main event guy. Hall himself even knew that and talked about it in shoot interviews. He knew he didn't belong in main events with Shawn Michaels, etc.
Scott Hall as Razor Ramon was fantastic, he really bucked the trend in WWF in 1992-3 where there was a big fall-off in the roster, and other newcomers/returnees and their gimmicks weren’t up to standard. And it’s worth remembering that he was in the WWF for l think less than four years! But he immediately looked and felt main event calibre, with a completely different attitude and personality, and was always a star. He, and a lot of WWF all time greats, weren’t actually there for very long, shorter on average than the vast majority of recent and current wrestlers, but they left far more memorable legacies.
That's because he turned babyface. 😂😂😂
Well...he had been wrestling for 10 years before coming to the WWF, so he was main event calibre already.
He was in WCW immediately beforehand, as The Diamond Studd, nearly exactly the same look, same in-ring, same moves, and it did absolutely NOTHING at the bottom of the card. It took the Razor Ramon name and persona to really unlock Scott Hall as a larger than life personality, and WWF going for it and pushing him as a top star almost immediately.
@@brianbenoit6883Just because someone has 10 years of experience does not make them main event ready. There's plenty of wrestlers today that have been around 15-20 years and aren't even close to Scott Hall's persona. Hall was made a star because he worked hard and came across as a really cool dude. Vince saw this and capitalized on it.
The picture of Hall, Nash, Taker, Shawn, Paul Bearer, and HHH always sticks with me because it looked like he fit right in with all of the top guys who carried WWF through the early to mid nineties before things really went off the cliff and you had Shawn and Taker really being the only guys who carried the fledgling on their backs while WCW was about to transition into the NWO era.
Hard work pays off. Dreams come true. Bad times don't last...but Bad Guys do. RIP Scott Hall!
There is no way anyone called Hall "the most boring wrestler they had ever seen". If you simply look at in ring and mic skills, Scott Hall is 1000000 times the pro wrestler Hulk Hogan was!
His punches alone were incredible, real fun to watch
You seen rookie Scott Hall?
AWA Big Scott Hall looked like Tarzan, but wrestled like Jane. He didn’t put everything together until he came to the WWF in 1992.
He was referring to when he was in AWA and USWA in the mid 80s. He went to WCW as Diamond Stud. He didn't get a great personality until WWF as Razor in 92.
I saw Scott Hall take on Brett Hart at a house show in Madison Wisconsin somewhere around '93 and they just brought the house down. He lived a troubled life but was an incredible talent.
He was brilliant in the ring in the WWF, right up there with the best in the business, the matches with Bret Hart, Mr Perfect, Randy Savage, 1 2 3 Kid, Jeff Jarrett, he made Diesel look incredible when he was very green, and people forget for all his talent, how unproven Shawn Michaels actually was as a top singles talent at that time, the matches with Razor really elevated Shawn more than anybody else could.
Exactly!!! Scott Hall was amazing and fantastic and mic 🎤 skills and in ring skills, second to none!!! Rip 🙏 Razor
"You want a war? You're gonna get one."
WRESTLING BIOS
Hey Yo!
The razors edge is 1 of the most under-rated finisher of all time
It's the absolute best finisher ever!!!! Rip 🙏 Razor
I absolutely LOVED Scott Hall! One of my favorite of all time.
I got to meet Scott a bunch of times at wrestling cons and at some wwe event through a friend that worked for wwe and he was always a nice guy. Never rushed you off and would joke around with you and took pictures and was just all around nice guy from my interactions with him. Happy I got to meet him.
Had no idea the pandemic & his mental state set him all the way back. Was so sad, truly heartbreaking. A good human who fell to his demons. RIP Scott, we miss you.💪💥🔥
It was typical of the era. Millions relapsed or became alcoholics.
I think about the ice Kevin Nash talked about every time I get some from the freezer
@@nickcervenka8756Those lockdowns hurt and killed a lot of vulnerable people.
Yeah me neither
I thought he had died because of health issues in his latter days, because of the addictions he had when he was at his lowest.
Tragic he fell back to his demons 😢
@@el-youtub3r402 I knew he went to DDP and was recovering. Last I saw he was living in Atlanta, training his son. God’s blessings 💪💥🔥
I loved Corny’s Scott Hall impression. Perfect Jamaican accent. Haha. Loved it.
Jim really doesn't understand addiction at all. It's not logical most of the time. It's sad but true that it takes so many lives.
I know from experience of watching someone struggle. And how lucky I am that I was able to help them defeat their demons.
@@TRivera13 That's amazing. It truly is a struggle for all involved; and I'm glad you both got out on the other side!
I love JC, but he doesn't understand A LOT of shit outside of pro rasslin'.
Jim is risk-averse. The idea of continually abusing substances is a concept from another universe to someone who won't even get on a plane.
@@Fantasyremix lol. Sounds about right.
Rest in peace Scott Hall
Nope. Scott likes to party.
@@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku so?
@@owl509 No Rest in Peace chico.
hes alive homie get woke
"Well Yo, Ya Kno Man"....is *WILD* Corny
He’s not just the best wrestler to never win the title, but he’s the only wrestler I’ve ever seen who truly didn’t need to. He was literally so talented and over, a title would’ve added nothing.
It's crazy how much that haircut changed his look. From a magnum T.A./P.I. lookalike to a star.
I still remember the vignettes when he first came in,me and my friends couldn’t wait to see what he was like in the ring
Only a wwf fan?
@@chrischar9428 no,just the time period I started watching.id probably watched diamond stud and paid no real attention so at my age i probably thought was a different person
I remember being super excited as a kid when they started doing his promos as razor Ramon! It was one of the best lead ups to introducing a character right up there with Taker!
0:01: 📖 Exploration of Scott Hall's personal life and past incidents, shedding light on unknown aspects to many.
4:48: 🎥 Analysis of A&E's portrayal of Scott Hall and his family background in wrestling.
9:17: 💪 Hall's determination to break into wrestling, despite challenges and bad gimmicks, led to success.
14:00: 📺 Overview of Scott Hall's transition to WWF after WCW run and impact on his persona and speaking voice.
18:57: 🎬 Hulk Hogan credits Scott Hall for inspiring him to turn heel and join the NWO group.
23:29: 📺 Scott Hall's turbulent journey post-WCW, from WWE return to personal struggles and missed opportunities in TNA.
28:32: ⭐ Importance of proper presentation and push in making wrestling stars highlighted through Scott Hall's success.
Recap by Tammy AI
Similar to Jake Roberts; Scott Hall was an amazing talent who was constantly held back by his demons. He could have been an amazing regular main event guy if he was more dependable. He made it there occasionally as it is. R.I.P. He was one of my favourites
For those unaware, the Favored Nations clause came in at a point where Bischoff and WCW were legitimately concerned that Hall and Nash were somehow going back to WWF. Hall and Nash knew they weren't, but seized the opportunity to get more money out of the company. So, when Bischoff and Co. came to them with their 'This is the most we can afford. We can't go any higher' offer, Nash and Hall countered with the Favored Nations idea. That if it were true then they wouldn't be able to bring in anyone else for more than what they were getting. The one person excluded from the clause was Hogan, since nobody made what Hogan made. WCW then said they can't do it for 'everybody' they bring in and had Hall and Nash list ten guys. For whom, if WCW brought them in, Hall and Nash would have to get a raise that equals what the new guy was getting. Bret Hart was one of the ten names. The Undertaker was also one of the ten. Which is why Nash tried to convince Taker to jump shit around 99', but Taker decided to stay and Vince took care of him in the long run.
Supposedly WCW believed that Hall & Nash were going back to WWE after hearing about that skit where "Razor Ramon & Diesel" had jumped Savio Vega. Because their WCW contracts hadn't been locked in yet. That's where they offered more money to make sure they stayed.
I’ve watched all the biographies episodes, but this was the saddest one by far. 😢
Until the Davey Boy Smith episode. That was even sadder.
It wasn't a full-blown bio, but the Dark Side episode on the Chris Benoit tragedy was heartbreaking. It tied in with Eddie Guerrero and how terrible his pill addiction, recovery, and sudden death were. Benoit was never the same and it was a slow decline mentally and physically afterwards that ultimately led to the darkest weekend in pro wrestling history.
Hall was a hard watch because I didn't know his story as well. RIP Razor
“Bad times don’t last, but bad guys do”
😂😂😂 Yeah, how did that turn out?
It was a clever line fed to him by some WWE writer, obviously it wasn't true.
@Rjensen2
You’re trash. Do better.
@Rjensen2 this ain't the own you think it is, he's a two time Hall of Famer and certified wrestling legend, his legacy will live forever in wrestling history
@@Jef_Jingles WTF are you talking about? You don't know that all of that is scripted? 🤣🤣🤣
It's a crime Kevin Nash got to be WWF champion and Scott didn't. Razor Ramon is one of, if not the coolest gimmick ever. This is a broad statement but truly one of the most underrated wrestlers of all time. His punches were beautiful
McMahon made so many awful, dumb calls over the years in his choices on who went over and who won titles 🤦♂️
@@Loe_Jist Agreed. Im not one of those people that thinks everyone should be a world champion but i do think Vince has made some interesting booking decisions over the yrs.
Well Razor Ramon could have been if he stayed in WWF still and didn't mess up with substance abuse
@@j86485 Idk I kinda feel like he still would have been on the midcard cause Austin would have outshined him like he did everyone else. For some reason I just don't think he would have been a main event guy in the WWF in the attitude era. I think both Hall and Nash made the right choice to jump to WCW
Scott Hall's WCW career.
June 1996 to March 1997 on TV.
April 1997 rehab.
May 1997 to March 1998 on TV.
April 1998 rehab.
May 1998 to Feb 1999 on TV.
March 1999 to Sept 1999 got injured and giving time off due to his issues.
Oct 1999 to Feb 2000 on TV.
March 2000 to Oct 2000 suspended for incident with his gf Emily Sherman who was Brad Siegel's niece.
Nov 2000 two shows with ECW.
March 2001 to Oct 2001 works for NJPW.
Thanks for the breakdown, brother. 🤘
You know Brian brings up a very good point. I have known a few people who had addictions and went to rehab and the ones who it sticks for tell me that the reason they kept clean was they kept busy. Also four of the six people also said leaving the area they lived and moving somewhere else was helpful. I am a larger guy and I have been on three cruises and each time people have said that I would return five kilos heavier because of the food, but because I had something to do for every minute I was awake on the cruise's, I actually lost four kilos each cruise. If you have an addiction or you are easily tempted by drugs, sugar or anything then keep busy doing something else.
I remember seeing Hall in the ring live, TV didn't really do that man justice. Not just size, he had a presence, there was that whole commanding attention thing that few people had back then, don't know that anyone in the ring now does.
It really was a beautiful tribute. It showed how troubled he was. But truly how much of a good man he was, despite his inability to see it, and how much he was loved by everyone that knew him.
Everyone remembers Scott Hall, but people forget Ted Oates.
Yeah, there's a reason for that. 😂😂😂
Pepperidge farm remembers
Who?
The Terry Gordy dark side of the ring was one of the best episode done Jim was great as usual I had no idea how great Gordy was I been watching Gordy matches since
I totally agree with you! I didn’t either.
I started watching wrestling in 1996. Wcw, Hall and the outsiders were my first like..favorite wrestler. Love you bad guy.
As a casual WWF watcher, the pre-debut vignettes of Scott Hall and Mr. Perfect are some of my favorite things of that period.
Absolutely agree , loved Mr Perfects promos where everything he did was perfect and then would say "hulk Hogan you can't do that" classic 😅
Nerds😂😂😂😂
@@Abcdefgx-u9g Says the guy commenting on a wrestling site 🙄
This one felt like Darkside of The Ring😢
He was absolutely the best in my opinion!!! Big, strong athletic and great in the ring and safe to work with, all wrestlers have said!!! Mic 🎤 skills were second to none as well!!! Rip 🙏 Scott Hall!!! Hey Yo!!!!
The Surf 🏄♂️ Walk ring entrance was the best. RIP Razor
Jon Moxley should adopt his WWF attire and call
himself Razor Bumon. "Hey yo, it's the Plumb Guy!"
boooooooooooooooooooooo‼️
if we're talking parody pun wrestlers, i always thought of a character called Laser Límon. what cuts better than a razor? a laser!! and he would dress in bright lemon yellow and always have a sort of sour lemon expression on his face.
@DynastyIcon Did you mean Booo or Booo-um?
Or Plunger Plumber.
@shanekraemer5632 Dean "The Bumstar" Ambrose 🛢
We had Scott Hall come in to a show for SWO in York, PA back in 2007, 2008...not sure what year. He was part of a Six Man tag match, teaming with the babyfaces in the blow-off of a feud. He was on his game that night. No signs of intoxication. The show was a fundraiser that raised too few funds, because of his fee and they paid his air fair.
Scott had a pretty hard life with ups and downs and it was sad how he passed away and it took so long for someone to be alerted that he needed help after his fall. Such a great talent tho when he was at his best
That's because he was an asshole so everybody stayed away. Nobody wanted anything to do with him.
“Well yo…you know mayne…it’s like da ting” corny’s razor accent 😂😂😂
Although I typical love the satirical artwork I’m glad this one was respectful, well done 👏
I had to do a Scarface tribute for the art, right?
@@travisheckel3788it’s spectacular! I love your work. 🖼️
@@iamcasihart Its appreciated. Thanks for watching the videos.
That infamous indie show "appearance" that Scott Hall did still makes me angry at the promoter every time I hear about it.
Bad times don't last, but bad guys do that's best quote ever
I just wish there could be one GD story without that BS quote
DDP is a saint, happy that Scott Hall had at least some time after getting sober
Best thing about Scott hall he protected his finish. Nobody ever kicked out of his razors edge and in matches he jobed for, hall didnt use it. Tired of modern wrestling everyone kix out of everything.
Also hall did the best bump for a stone cold stunner.
@@gregweisal5542his bump taking the stunner was absolutely fucking majestic! He took and sold that to immaculate perfection. Scott was so damn talented. He is absolutely on my Mt. Rushmore of favorite pro wrestlers.
@@iamcasihart i saw an interview with him. They asked y he was never a world champion he said he didn't want it. Jokes brett...the clique called him the 100k champion cause Brett didn't care how much he made as long as he was the champion.....that didn't last long. Hall never wanted the world title as much as he just wanted paid and he never really needed it either. Would have been nice if he ended the streak instead of nash but whatever. Still one of my favorites and I hate seeing ppl use the crucifix powerbomb so ppl can kick out of it. Damien priest cough
I didn't know that, huh. Thanks
@@gregweisal5542we it was because of what Hall did that Goldbergs streak ended. Having Goldberg lose was a terrible choice by WCW
When I was young, I really legit thought he was the coolest guy walkin the face of the earth
He sounds like he's avoiding saying his true thoughts about Hall.
Cant be disrespectful towards the dead.
Jim doesn't like to trash people who were; good to him & his colleagues, had respect & drive for the wrestling business, didn't make absolutely stupid decisions as a personality flaw, and weren't just evil POS's. Scott may have done some things that Jim disapproves of, and I think he's willing to cut him a little slack for it. That's fair though.
Funny thing about the girl from the strip club. She was the manager’s gf.
Wasn't the manager also married to another woman? I believe they showed his death certificate, and correct me if I'm wrong but it said he weighed less than 150 lbs.
@@bingeMAFIAif that’s true idk what the fuck he was thinking. Scott was literally twice his size. If you’re gonna pull a gun then use it and don’t give dude the chance to take it from you
@@SpaceGhost92 Could've also played a part in Hall's depression, killing a guy he easily outmatched size wise. I'll have to rewatch this, and the WWE network doc to get confirmation.
Hall has stated many times that it had a massive negative effect on his mental health, guilt, depression etc
@@SpaceGhost92 Anger makes you do crazy stuff but also hesitation
Young, moustachioed Scott Hall looked like Norm MacDonald when he played Burt Reynolds on SNL.
“That’s not my name”
-Turd Ferguson
I've sent thousands of emails, but I'll say it again; Travis needs to put his art on t-shirts
Underdog put it on a t-shirt
I loved and hated this because of the great memories of my childhood and the horrible realities I didn't want to know. One of my wrestling heroes 🙏🏾
Saw him in an event at the Lowell memorial auditorium in 1994 (shawn was champ and headliner). He and Kid we signing autographs and signed my report card... Wish I still had it 😢
One thing that stood out about the Scott Hall Doc is how great a guy DDP is , the guy literally saved Scott Hall and Jake The Snake’s life
The PTSD from the shooting combined with his family’s horrible history with alcoholism led to his demons haunting him until the rest of his life. It’s a shame because as a kid I LOVED Razor Ramon. The gimmick was superb and he was such a tremendous worker. Him and Nash going to WCW was why I quickly became a WCW fan.
I don’t know what his contract situation like with WCW but I know he wasn’t there at the end because in 2000 ECW mentioned Hall was working there but sadly had to let him go as well because he was so fucked there as well.
I just hope he’s now in a better place and free of pain
I love that Jim says he doesn’t have an accent, because when I first started listening to his podcast years ago I told my dad that he sounded like he was from Louisville 😂 Me too Jim, me too.
Addiction is a beast Jim, can’t over simplify it. It is what it is, you of all people should know this
Scott hall and Jake Robert’s needed to be in creative. They both had amazing minds for the business.
I watched a shoot interview with hall, and they had other kliq members before he was on there. All were asked a question of who would you sleep with, merry, and kill, to the other members of the kliq and each said they would kill Scott. After hearing that Scott looked so depressed and stated all my friends want me dead. It's was almost like he was asking him self if his friends were real friends.
During 98 to closing, you may have only seen hall maybe 20 to 25 times.
Check out wrestling bios on the monday night wars and since the start of 99, i dont think i have seen hall but once and that was when flair was in the mental hospital
"well yo, you know man" lol
Rip Scott hall
Nope. Scott likes to party.
Get a life and stop spamming comments with useless dribble @@MariuszMroczek-dd7ku
I see where Jim's coming from with his point on how he doesn't get that people just can't get it together when you have so many people trying to help you. It's easy to think like that when you're not a drug addict. I have no idea about that world. It's sad that Scott could never defeat his personal demons.
Yeah jim doesn't understand because he doesnt suffer from it....Its not as easy as he thinks it is
Also, Jims no he one out here wrestling, busing his ass every night needed to take pain killers and booze. Jim took one dodgy bump off a scaffold and was fked up looking for pain meds. Can you imagine him going through an actual wrestling career?
As someone who watched someone I cared about go down that downward spiral. It was a constant and at times an overwhelming struggle. Most of the time seemingly just to prolong the inevitable.
So I never under estimate how lucky I am to see the person I love defeat their demons.
Who does your cartoon graphics? They're very funny!! Great podcast, keep up the Great Work!!! Love from Huntington, West Virginia!!!
Scott was my hero growing up. He'll always hold a special place in my heart. I wish he could've beat his demons.
Cornette does NOT understand addiction. It's not an easy road at all. I know from experience. That's why one day at a time is of such importance.
I’m also so fucking tired of hearing addiction referred to as “demons.” It’s a way of both watering it down, whilst simultaneously being melodramatic by making it adjacent to “Satan” or some supernatural battle of good vs. evil. Addiction is fucking REAL and it is so human. There’s nothing otherworldly about it. It’s a disease, just like cancer and bipolar are diseases.
I wish more people had the capacity to comprehend shit. I wish more people had true and full understanding of addiction, and how it is *always* a family disease, as well. It is damn near painful to be an emotionally intelligent person living in a world where the vast majority of people are just fucking idiots or very black and white in their thinking. Corny isn’t an idiot at all. But he also isn’t that emotionally plugged in or capable of understanding just how complicated and difficult it is for a person with mental illness with or without addiction.
@@iamcasihart I've been around my share of drugs and no one ever jammed them down my throat to make sure I get addicted to them. Addiction is a choice you make when you take that first hit and then decide to take more....not a frickin airborne disease you picked up in public one day or a condition you didn't realize you had that progressed over time through no fault of your own . I have addicts in my family. I have told them to shut up whining about it cause it could have been me but I'm not stupid enough to put needles in my arms or take random pills someone offered me or smoke crack. I also tell them if they rob anything to pay for their fix, I will know it's you and kick your ass. Sorry I'm not sorry.
@@iamcasihart Amen... I totally agree with you. Willpower means nothing against a disease. Ignorance Is high when people from the outside try to judge the alcoholic or addict..
Hall had a tryout with the WWF in 1990. I'm guessing Curt Hennig pulled some strings.
RIP Chico. The Bad Guy will always be remembered . Thx for the memories ❤.
The Bad guys made so many contributions to business from putting others over (Kid, DDP), NWO, Sting Crow character, Ladder match, etc
The covid shut downs hurt a lot of people mental health wise. Was really sad how Scott fell off the wagon after a few years of being clean and doing better
When I saw him in AWA he resembled Tom Selleck.
I remember watching "Big" Scott Hall and Curt Hennig, before their Mr Perfect and Diamond Stud days
Loved how the documentary mentioned the indies exploiting Scott but never made one mention of that horrid WCW storyline about his struggles.
It was horrible to see what ptsd did to Scott.
Hey yo
I loved the early days seeing Sean Waltman as the 123 kid
Great review
Always will love Scott Hall. Survey says..one more for the Bad Guy.
Can’t watch it. Still hurts to think about.
He lived a long life
😂😂😂 Why? Drunks kill themselves with booze everyday. It's not like he was a good person or something.
@@Rjensen2 why
Leave mommy's basement
@@sykothelastoutlaw2612 Does the truth hurt that much?
I loved Scott. Once he got his feet under him (early days) he WORKED that ring. I think the heart of his problem was he never felt he was good enough for anything. When DDP had him up in Atlanta he set up a scheme to have people donate to pay for medical work that hadn't got done, his hip primarily. I'm a Scott Hall mark, I kicked in a bit and by God I got my phone call. You would think a man that big, that good looking couldn't make you feel for him and he didn't. I just felt for him. He never thought he was going to live long and he didn't but I'm glad he was here.
Hogan said in another recent interview that when Warrior came into the WWF, he asked Vince if he could turn heel and be called "Triple H- Hollywood Hulk Hogan" but Vince wasnt having it.... 😐
(Its clear that Hogan daydreams about "Wouldn't that have been cool" stuff, and then tries to alter history )
😂😂😂
Kevin Nash claims to be Scott Hall's best friend, but he was his biggest enabler. Nash could handle the partying. Scott could not, and Kevin knew it. Yet Nash kept dragging him to the clubs and kept the pills flowing. It's a wonder that everyone in The Kliq, except Triple H, didn't drop dead years ago due to their lifestyle.
This. Pretty crappy friends
You are 100% correct
Razor Ramon/Scott Hall/Texas Scott/Diamond Studd was great in NWA CWF Mid Atlantic JCP AWA NJPW WCW CWA WWC WWF ECW TNA and JCW
Hall was one of the few guys with stroke, money, and size willing to give underneath guys the rub (no jokes, please haha). I think he learned a lot from Perfect on psychology and how the business is supposed to work. Whereas other guys became giant marks for themselves (Hogan) or had no respect for the business and just saw it as a means to extract cash (Nash).
Like so many others during lockdown destroyed so many. Never recovered. Sad to think how healthy and great he was before. De-aged about 15 years, beat his demons…
Then isolation destroyed him..
I remember seeing Jim with his tennis racket at channel 5 wrestling studio in Memphis as a kid
I smell what the Corn’s got popping’.😉
I actually caught the episode at work last weekend. Lol Slow day. It was cool getting to relive the Razor Ramon era.
Travis did the man Justice with this artwork. Scott Hall’s promos were ok but the way he carried himself made him a star. It also helps to be 6’6 270 and cool.
I never knew Scott killed a guy in self defense. It doesn’t change anything but it sheds light on the trauma that helped spawn his addiction. As a fan in the 90s I like NOT knowing everything about everyone. Especially wrestlers, no wonder this modern age is soo tricky. Everyone is trying to find their balance between the wacky world of wrestling and the rapid exchange and integration of social media
When he was on...he was one of my Fav people of Monday night Wars (top 4)
The correct answer is Scott Hall would Not be obligated to disclose Anything about the killing, then or now, as Scott was Never convicted of anything.
BAD ASS THUMBNAIL, TRAVIS❤
Beard should be more stubbly. That's Hall's way and not Carlito's.
I'm still shocked as thinking Scott Hall was really Latino from his popular years. He looks like he was adopted when you see his family... 😳