KUKAKU SHIBA, THE FIREWORKS EXPERT - Bleach: Forgotten Characters #3 | Discussion

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  • @MrTommo2304
    @MrTommo2304  2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Tell me what you think of Kukaku Shiba and her (small) role in Bleach! Would you have liked to get more from this character? What secrets, if any, are hiding in her history? Let me know!

    • @bleachfan.619
      @bleachfan.619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I would've loved to know how she lost her arm.

    • @noaharnold5898
      @noaharnold5898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bleachfan.619 yesssss

    • @CaptainKotetsu
      @CaptainKotetsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Her design is one of the best, but she doesn’t get to do enough.

    • @varsoonhks3211
      @varsoonhks3211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a bit wild that she has her own cover on a volume given how little she shows up.

    • @Ando1428
      @Ando1428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always attributed her loss of a limb to a job on earth. She was a youngster when kaien died. I figured she did a few missions things got bad. Especially with aizen.

  • @SHADOWFIRE985
    @SHADOWFIRE985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    There's two big reasons why I could never forget Kukaku.

  • @clearspira
    @clearspira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    I'm convinced that Kubo had far bigger plans for the four great noble houses at the start of this series then what actually ended up happening. It just seems that he went to great lengths to really set up the whole Kuchiki and Shiba clan rivalry (remember how Byakuya went from dismissive to crazed murderer within one second of hearing Ganju's name?) but it all just came to nothing.

    • @Fuchsfeuer
      @Fuchsfeuer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I think so too. especially how bayakua reacted that there was a shiba in front of him showed that there was a lot of story behind it but nobody was told unfortunately.

    • @ulyssesglemao6783
      @ulyssesglemao6783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      sadly thats a tradeoff of battle shounen volumes of pure fight while the lore is getting sidelined

    • @gxtmfa
      @gxtmfa ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wish he had more time to develop the story he wanted.

    • @Peppermintflipside
      @Peppermintflipside 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ganju?

    • @clearspira
      @clearspira 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Peppermintflipside Ganju Shiba. The self-proclaimed leader of West Rukon.

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    I like how she represents the brash and rebellious fallen nobility who could care less about status and the Gotei 13 while still having helpful ties, sharing that with friend Yoruichi. The Shiba's fall certainly started when their ancestor refused to partake in what was essentially a coup to seize and create the worlds via subjugation of the Spirit King as a moral clause.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ultimately, he still took part, just as the lone voice of objection and also out of concern for the Hollows. Also, will give him props for spending the rest of his life researching ways to replace the Soul King as penance.

  • @TheIronMask1954
    @TheIronMask1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    To add to the idea of the Shiba controlling elements, remember when Isshin flicked his finger at Aizen and hit him with a burst of what seems to be just wind? 🤔

    • @johngona5929
      @johngona5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Isshin can only control fire. It was displayed with his zanpakutou release, Engetsu. Literal translation to "Flame Cutter".

    • @JoseSerrato0420
      @JoseSerrato0420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      There was also a comment in TYBW when Rose used his bankai that Zanpaktou that control multiple elements is virtually unheard of so anything extraneous to that had to be a shinigami technique like how Hinamori uses her shikai to augment her kido or Rose used hypnosis. They might, as a whole, have elemental/nature based powers but might just manifest as a singular element, then using kido to perform other elemental attacks. Also, Shunko showed that shinigami had an elemental affinity as Yoruichi had wind, Soi Fon electric, and Yoruichi's brother had explosive (probably fire)

    • @johngona5929
      @johngona5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JoseSerrato0420 you mixed up Yoruichi and Soi fon. Soi fon had the wind. Yoruichi is the electric cat.
      Also, it begs the question:
      If the Shiba clan can control elements to an extent, then what is Ichigo's element? Ichigo also has the Shiba blood flowing in his reishi veins, aside from Blut Vein and hollow vessels.

    • @GODOFAWSOMENESS1
      @GODOFAWSOMENESS1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@johngona5929 maybe wind or energy.

    • @johngona5929
      @johngona5929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 leaning more on energy, since his Getsuga Tenshou can be modified. From a regular reishi-based slash, to a super-dense, black reishi that coats his body and his blade. There was also the Fullbring Getsuga Tenshou, which were spinning wheels of death, the yellow Getsuga Tenshou from the smaller Zangetsu, and Getsuga Jushishou. Finally, we have Gran Rey Cero, and Final Getsuga Tenshou. Yeah... It's definitely energy, or in Bleach's universe, reishi of different races.

  • @nickdurham3946
    @nickdurham3946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    It never occurred to me until you mentioned it but the soul King was apparently fascinated by Ichigo and perhaps it had something to do with him being a Shiba descendant il and the fact that the Shiba's were the only family that disagreed with his cruel sentence

    • @AJ-kt5zo
      @AJ-kt5zo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    • @MIGBMWLOVER
      @MIGBMWLOVER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      maybe he saw the potential to became the next soul king?

    • @AJ-kt5zo
      @AJ-kt5zo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💙

    • @DTK625
      @DTK625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@MIGBMWLOVER I don't think the Soul King would want another person to end up like him

    • @yamatonoryuujin4871
      @yamatonoryuujin4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@MIGBMWLOVER well no, he saw an opportunity to find someone like him a Hybrid that belongs to everyside and yet is so set apart in his own class that he feels he can't have a friend. Basically it's the God parallel; God is so powerful probably the first hybrid that belongs to everyside and no side basically he is the impossible, the greatest paradox the ultimate contradiction revered as a messiah to one side, devil and evil to another or either apathetic, sympathetic, or empathetic to all sides. So he made all creation just to find someone to understand or bond with. Ironically the greatest sin to Bleach is similar but not the same to the crucifixion story literally gave his own life for the world to have it's balance and a way for souls to be saved and not be condemned to eternal torment or in Bleach's case Hollows being murdered and causing another great imbalance. Not to mention the SK gave himself up to this Pharise-...I mean Nobles to be given probably the worst punishment of their time...kinda sounds familiar huh?

  • @varsoonhks3211
    @varsoonhks3211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I always figured that Kukaku's connection to Urahara was through his shop--that Yoruichi was able to come and go to the Soul Society and Kukaku was the point of contact on the spiritual side.

  • @BIayne
    @BIayne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Hear me out.. The case for Zero Division KuKaku:
    First, what if Kukaku's "great contribution" to Soul Society was fireworks/pyrotechnics and the Flower Crane Cannon.
    The Cannon USED TO be the only way to go to the Soul King's Palace but she did something regarded as a betrayal of the Soul King/ Zero Division and all of the Shiba's were removed from Nobility.
    Why does no one in Soul Society talk about how the Shiba's fell from nobility?
    Because they don't really know what happened up in the Soul King's Palace.
    Second, the Zero Division all exhibit skills which are unique to themselves and don't fall into the class of Zanpakuto or Kido-
    Which could be the explanation for how the Flower Crane Cannon moves locations and for what her ritual launching was: an ability unique to her.
    Also, Ichibei says that the Ōken is their bones and shows his RIGHT ARM.
    Where did her arm go? They took back the Ōken when she was removed from the Zero Division.

    • @MrEnKaye
      @MrEnKaye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      YOOOOOO

    • @calebj8134
      @calebj8134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is a very good theory

    • @BIayne
      @BIayne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@calebj8134 thanks! I came up with it entirely while the video played lol.

    • @iReiGNxx
      @iReiGNxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This actually makes a lot of sense. Especially when Senjumaru’s biggest contribution was soul reaper clothes. It’s not a reach to think this invention could qualify her for Zero Division.

    • @Meekmillan
      @Meekmillan ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Here goes fans again writing the gritty details for Kubo.
      Now we just gotta wait till he sees this comment 😂
      So in regards to her being banished from the royal guard , it’s cannon in my book
      (pun intended)

  • @jaredshreve1364
    @jaredshreve1364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I love Kukaku. That wild attitude, that body, and the way she runs shit with everyone she interacts with is what got me. Really wish we would have seen more of her for sure. Great video again bro

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Heck my oc, kind of acts like her, pretty shameless, and strong.

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the 2nd thing is pretty good atleast

  • @artydomi2466
    @artydomi2466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Before Yoruichi, Halibel, and even Matsumoto....there was the legendary busty beauty Kukaku

    • @violetparr1604
      @violetparr1604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      before yoruichi went into human form you mean

    • @YouKnowIhadToDoItToEm
      @YouKnowIhadToDoItToEm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Just think…Naruto only has a *single* 106. Bleach has a lot more variety

    • @drointhewind480
      @drointhewind480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @DeeCee a shameful display

    • @CannonAbuser
      @CannonAbuser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That uses her mouth over her arm wink wink.

    • @truthspreader1996
      @truthspreader1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @DeeCee That's what happens when you dress immodestly. You distract from the subject at hand.

  • @Isiel42
    @Isiel42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I never thought of her as a prominent figure before this. Interesting video. It'd be interesting if Kubo came out with a sort of Bleach encyclopedia of sorts that helps fill in the gaps in the lore and universe and whatnot.

    • @manuelacosta9463
      @manuelacosta9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Indeed. We definitely need a mini series that follows the Shibas especially their downfall. Their rebellious streak and altruism where certainly factors but the precise details would be very interesting.

    • @CitroChannel
      @CitroChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes! A full Bleach data/lore book written by Kubo to fill in all the gaps and explain more of the things he didn't get to go super in-depth with would be amazing! I'm hoping we get some more of the lore explained if the Hell Arc actually gets continued too, but an encyclopedia of Bleach lore would be something I would absolutely be willing to shell out some money for, honestly. The closest thing we have right now the Klub Outside stuff where he answers some questions from time to time, but it is unfortunately restricted only to Japanese residents right now apparently -- otherwise I would definitely join and ask some questions in the hopes that he might pick one of them to answer.

    • @thelightseeker94
      @thelightseeker94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well they did do info dumps at the end of each anime episode in tge arrancar arc.

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I do find the Isshin connection odd for many reasons you stated. I mean it's cool him and Ichigo are Shiba's and I think Kubo had it in his mind the whole time by making Ichigo and Kaien near identical and the emphasis on Ichigo and Ganju's dynamic when they first met, immediately bickering like family. I think it was always part of Kubo's plan but somewhere along the path of actually revealing it he just couldn't find the time to add more clarification on things for one reason or another

    • @Rhekon
      @Rhekon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Ichigo strongly resembling his cousin is something you would see irl. They're first cousins, meaning they share grandparents and about 12.5% of DNA. Of course, ichigo grows into the Isshin look later. So really kaien favored his uncle lol

    • @dzgaming3684
      @dzgaming3684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Rhekon also on how adult Karin strongly resembles Kukaku especially in her face and chest.

    • @YamaMaharaja
      @YamaMaharaja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Rhekon
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    • @raipe125
      @raipe125 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fcking fullbringer arc was worst that a filler arc... Worst time skip. And more that mix blood is better concept that ichigo was always a hollow rehumanize

    • @severedripjay8113
      @severedripjay8113 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish kukku meets Karin

  • @melonboi927
    @melonboi927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    About the whole Rukia and Ganju situation, I have always thought that he was just traumatized by the situation and him blaming her is just A coping mechanism

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She killed him it's not really a coping mechanism it's what happened

    • @rbraunbeck96
      @rbraunbeck96 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@A_Black_Sheep94 He had become Hollowfied. She didn't really have a choice

  • @RulerOfYore
    @RulerOfYore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Bleach volume 9 was my true introduction to the series.
    I was in the 8th grade and let’s just say Kukaku’s appearance on the volume cover…. Caught my attention.

  • @CaptainKotetsu
    @CaptainKotetsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    She’s in my top 3 favorite female characters, right behind Isane and Halibel.
    Kukaku was criminally underused too.

    • @emblemedfate4270
      @emblemedfate4270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Definitely one of the hottest.

    • @Maxjuliann
      @Maxjuliann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Isane 🤤

    • @xtensioncordtv1969
      @xtensioncordtv1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yoruichi?

    • @mugetsu2862
      @mugetsu2862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@xtensioncordtv1969 right idk how you could have a top female list without yoruichi universally, i mean really. 😆

    • @CaptainKotetsu
      @CaptainKotetsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mugetsu2862 Not a fan of Yuruichi personally. I’m allowed.

  • @Elsa_Jay
    @Elsa_Jay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I read so many fanfictions where Orihime gives her her arm back, or even just paying for another one like Soi-Fon got... Yet she only gets a prosthetic arm in the Brave Souls game for Symmetry. She's also a cousin of Ichigo. Why isn't she more important.
    Well I guess Ichigo's sisters didn't get much screen time either but seriously, family is big in Asian culture, but Ichigo never goes 'hey Kukaku we're appearantly cousins' or anything.

    • @dinolover
      @dinolover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Ichigo does not know that. He knows his dad was a captain and his mom was a quincy, but Isshin never directly stated to Ichigo that he's a Shiba. We just happen to find out through flashbacks.

    • @varsoonhks3211
      @varsoonhks3211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      She had a prosthetic arm in the anime as well.

  • @zerobarge718
    @zerobarge718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I absolutely love her and I really hope we get to see more of her one day. There's actually plenty that could be done with her in relation to the Hell Arc if Kubo chose to do it. Hopefully he goes for it.

    • @AJ-kt5zo
      @AJ-kt5zo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @Tier1Jank
    @Tier1Jank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Love Kukaku, wish we would have seen a lot more of her.

  • @jacobparry177
    @jacobparry177 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Honestly, the designs of the whole Shiba Clan have to be my favourite in the series. Kukaku, Ganju, Kaien, Isshin (and by extension Ichigo, Karin and Yuzu) all look awesome. They've all got that look of the Wild, but in a suitably noble way that sort of embodies freedom or liberty.
    Also, a little sidenote, since this is a vid on Kukaku, can we just appreciate the fact that Kubo has consistently included disabled characters in Bleach. From Kukaku to Tosen and Rintao (the deaf squad 7 member, if I'm remembering his name right?). Cool as hell.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Atau Rindou, but yeah, Kubo's disabled representation is pretty neat, unlike his record on trans and lesbian representation.

  • @camiloiribarren1450
    @camiloiribarren1450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think Kukkaku wanted to protect Ganju from the difficult situation when Kaien was killed and she didn’t know how to handle it the way she believed Kaien would’ve. In a way, she tries to keep Ganju tough by being the rowdy big sister that will beat someone up if they insult her. Her attitude is protective and you can see it. It’s something all Shibas have: Isshin, Kaien, Kukkaku, Ganju and, by family extension, Ichigo.
    If you think about it, Isshin did the same with Ichigo; protect him from the difficult and complicated situation when Masaki was killed by Grand Fisher and never holding Ichigo responsible

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ganju should have been either redesigned or scrapped totally

  • @sonicwild665
    @sonicwild665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Urahara Kisuke...I swear he’s the last of the unknown noble household. It would explain his ties with so many other nobles and access to so many resources. A shame kubo didn’t get the chance to really take his time during the serialization to flesh out the world he probably had in mind. So many ideas and characters that get a start but never finish.

    • @manuelacosta9463
      @manuelacosta9463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a strong possibility. How else was a 'commoner' like him allowed to befriend and get close to the Shihouin princess and then serve alongside her?

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@manuelacosta9463 Because Yourichi never cared about class or title and did what she wanted. Remember Kisuke created an entire hidden underground playground for them so even if they weren't allowed to play together, which I doubt, they'd still be able to play in private.

    • @MrGksarathy
      @MrGksarathy ปีที่แล้ว

      I personally think he is a member of some minor noble family who like the Fon had a legacy of service in the Onmitsukido.

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrGksarathy Actually looking back at the manga recently Tessai and Kiskue both lived in the Shihouin manor as children so it's possible, hard to say beyond the family adopted them

  • @bqw2094
    @bqw2094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    When I saw kukkaku for the first time my first immediate thought was " oh look , it's tatsuki , new and improved " like honestly kukkaku' s character feels like a thicc , badass version of tatsuki. With that being said , it's a damn shame she had so little screen time , you can just tell that she was a badass on the level of a captain . Can't believe ganju got more screen time than her , also I feel kubo should have used kukkau in the final Arc in the place of yushiro, so then we would have kukkau and yoruichi fighting alongside eachother. God and I thought ryuken was wasted .

    • @lolsnez7542
      @lolsnez7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stfu and never come back bleach hater

    • @ierbutza21
      @ierbutza21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tatsuki? Karin maybe since it might look like he wanted the Shiba connection from day 1 ,also she is a mature version of her.

    • @bqw2094
      @bqw2094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ierbutza21 yes tastuki , her and kukkaku are both brash tomboy with black spiky hair. Karin feels like a kid version of tastuki and/or kukkaku

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should have just scrapped Ganjus dumpy worthless ass as a character entirely and instead used Kukkaku in place of him in every instance in the story.

    • @raipe125
      @raipe125 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aah...tatsuki the best friend of ichigo amd orihime? She should have dirty boots or have more relevance

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I never thought about Kukaku losing her hand to the cannon that makes the most sense and she probably keeps it like that as a reminder of what can happen if she’s not careful
    There’s a lot of ways to re-limb in bleach 😂

  • @katp2981
    @katp2981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I always imagined that she never told Ganju the truth because she wanted to keep him away from the Shinigami. He looks like he was pretty young when their brother died, and didn't want to risk him trying to follow Kaien's footsteps.

  • @clearspira
    @clearspira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I think Kubo's biggest failing as a writer is ''too many characters.'' Its funny to think that when we were introduced to Kukkaku the main character list was still just Ichigo, Orihime, Chad, Uryu, Rukia and Mr Hat and Clogs. The Gotei-13 at this point were just villains. By the start of the Arrancar arc though... well, she wouldn't be the only character to get no panel time.

    • @shirothr5384
      @shirothr5384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well I'd say that there's no such as too many characters. Look at one piece and how its stories going. I will say that that Kubo does do that with forgetting characters

    • @shadowofthenorthstar989
      @shadowofthenorthstar989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep same problem Naruto had

    • @johnmcswag5980
      @johnmcswag5980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@shirothr5384 The thing with OP though is that it was able to be fleshed out more and Oda doesn’t have health issues as of now

    • @lolsnez7542
      @lolsnez7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats false

    • @HENTAIsamus06
      @HENTAIsamus06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly, he has nowadays and that's why chapters are now bi-weekly?

  • @KuraSourTakanHour
    @KuraSourTakanHour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I never noticed (or just forgot) that she lost 1 arm. Losing arms really is trendy in Bleach.
    Also those scrolls at 19:15 are more like "The strong eat the weak/The weak are meat, the strong eat"

    • @Ninetaled
      @Ninetaled 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you watched the anime I think she had a prosthetic thst looked like a full arm

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ninetaled I don't think so, she does in Brave souls though.

  • @Ginko_Sakata
    @Ginko_Sakata 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Surprised they never said anything about ichigo looking like their older brother

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Recently did a rewatch of Bleach in preparation for new season and I have to say seeing Kukaku and Ganju and now knowing they are Ichigo’s family it lands different than it did before.
    In terms of design it’s also super apparent they both look like Ichigo and Ishin respectively.
    Obviously Kaien and Ichigo are near clones of each other but initially the community chalked that up to a thematic choice Kubo made or that maybe after he died he reincarnated into Ichigo.
    Not that they are actually related to one another.

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only Ichigo knew his private thoughts were incest. They are directly related as cousins.

  • @stevesambrano5552
    @stevesambrano5552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would've loved to see issin and kukaku have a dialog

  • @djnovak8706
    @djnovak8706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also the one of the positives I’ll give to the Bount arc is including Kukkaku and Ganju a bit more in it. Especially the hint that there’s a long history between Kukkaku and Urahara (I hope we get more on that in additional material.)

    • @DTK625
      @DTK625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Although the Bount Arc was bad overall. I liked moments like that

  • @singe1859
    @singe1859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ooh I can tell this is gonna be another banger,, thank you Mr. Tommo for always making such quality content.

  • @threesofthree6100
    @threesofthree6100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So my personal headcanon on the stone covering around the cannon is that it's meant to protect it from the elements when they're not using it. Big ass gun barrel jutting out of the ground is liable to rust, or water in the barrel could mess things up when it needs to be fired. So they just cover it up to keep it in working order.

  • @aphroxoxo
    @aphroxoxo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    isshin is kukaku’s uncle = ichigo + kukaku&ganju are cousins.

  • @suhrob6556
    @suhrob6556 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember that in the bound arc Ganju called Urahara an old man, to which Urahara replied that he is the same age as Kukaku

  • @CitroChannel
    @CitroChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Back before the completion of the TYBW Arc when the "Kukaku was a former member of the Zero Division" theory was popular, I always thought that if it was true (which I don't think it is, but I did, like you, like the theory at one point in time) that she didn't get removed from the Division because of the fall of the Shiba Clan or because she lost her arm. I actually thought back then that maybe her arm was intentionally severed to remove a piece of the Oken from her.
    But Kikaku really is a super interesting character with a fantastic design that I wish we would have seen more of and learned more about her and the Shiba Family and all of the things surrounding it (stuff with the cannon, how the Shibas fell from grace exactly, if Kukaku was a former Shinigami of some rank given her sword and kido ability, and generally just how they all relate) and definitely look forward to a video on the Shiba Clan! Great video as per usual though!

  • @karmst1996
    @karmst1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    They wouldn't be Ichigo's step cousins they would be his first cousins they directly related to each other by blood. If Isshin is Kukaku's uncle that would make their father Isshin's brother making Ichigo and Kukaku first cousins not step cousins

  • @djnovak8706
    @djnovak8706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you SO much for doing a Kukkaku Shiba video. Her and Ganju (and Isshin and Karen for that matter) were always some of my favorite characters. They always had so much life when they were on the page and screen. I hope they get more screen time in the new anime seasons.

  • @cemeteryhill
    @cemeteryhill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent discussion as always!!
    The 4 Noble Houses were always so fascinating. I always imagined them competent with elemental Reiatsu outside of their Zanpakuto Element. Like they have their specialty like Kukaku's fire but I always imagined making a house or the big arms or cannon was pretty simple for Kukaku/Ganju kinda FMA style putting their hands on the ground & bam big rock arms. Man Bleach has so much material for more Turn Back the Pendulum Arcs. Kukaku's history/era could make a great one whether she is Yoruichi's age or Unohana's!

    • @raipe125
      @raipe125 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nop... Unohana is very old. There another shiba in the inicial gotei.

    • @cemeteryhill
      @cemeteryhill ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raipe125 lol

  • @HakuIK0410
    @HakuIK0410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how he said, "she has the least amount of screen time out of the three we have covered" and then pulls out a 40 min video Love you man

  • @Lo-xm7kn
    @Lo-xm7kn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Requested months ago for kukaku, then isshin. Mr Tommo, to complete my trifecta we need only an analysis on izuru!!! Happy to see your channel growin the way it has in the past 3 years!

  • @sh4d0wfl4re
    @sh4d0wfl4re 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve suspected that Kisuke and the Shibas had a long relationship like he had with the Shihouins. Somehow Kisuke was friendly with the heads of both the assassin clan and the most rebellious clan. And both held him in higher regards than each other. Maybe part of why the Shibas were allowed free reign in their exile has to do with Kisuke and yoruichi’s long friendship..?

    • @XxxX-kg2pm
      @XxxX-kg2pm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      there is a theory that kisuke is that he is from the remaining noble family (since he knew yoruichi from way back (as kids?) and also how similar he is to senjumaru(the fablic zero squad member)

    • @sh4d0wfl4re
      @sh4d0wfl4re 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@XxxX-kg2pm interesting... but one of the movies (memory of nobody, I believe) and the more blatantly canon light novels name a different group for that missing noble family

  • @prodigy9762
    @prodigy9762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like that take on ichibe being involved man that’s amazing

  • @Sicarius_Avindar
    @Sicarius_Avindar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RE her not telling Ganju the truth about Kaien and Rukia, to me this makes perfect sense.
    Ganju is headstrong and adored Kaien. He was likely also going to join the Shinigami just like his brother, and Kuukaku didn't want to lose him too.
    So, she held back the information.
    Let him hate the Shinigami, it kept him from joining them, and in her eyes, kept him alive.

  • @Kubinda12345
    @Kubinda12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kukaku is cool and just like you said it's shocking that she appears only in 10 or so chapters.
    My theory why Kukaku was so willing to help Yoruichi and Urahara is because either they knew each other as kids and/or that Urahara told her what happened to Isshin.
    As for the the thing with Kaien, I think that Rukia behaved that way is because she was guilty and she wanted the Shibas to hate her. And I always though that Ukitake told Kukaku the truth about Kaien after Aizen disappeared. Because if he really told her a long time ago and she didn't tell Ganju then that's really sucky move from her.
    And as for the connection with the 0th Division; perhaps taking care of transport is Shiba's family responsibility. I mean the Kuchikis's responsibility is compiling and protecting the history of the Soul Society so it's possible that each of the high noble houses has some special responsibility perhaps related to the Soul King. And Shibas could very well take care of transporting people - e.g. new 0th Division members - to the Soul Palace.

  • @Pr0digyZRX
    @Pr0digyZRX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kukaku Shiba has been my favorite female character since she was introduced

  • @CaptainKotetsu
    @CaptainKotetsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I heard that Tsukishima and Ginjo end up living with kukakku in her residence. Was this because Tsukishima used his ability on her, Or did she actually trust them and let them live there without any tricks?
    I don’t feel like reading the novels but I was wondering about this.

    • @omnimon1996
      @omnimon1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Kukkaku was the only one who offered residence for them, so they were in her debt.

    • @CaptainKotetsu
      @CaptainKotetsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@omnimon1996 So they didn’t use book of the End on her? That’s good.

  • @sugoiboyxl8345
    @sugoiboyxl8345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Kubo knows how to make the baddest women ever man holy smokes

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nel, and Yorich, are my favorites, but she was a early crush hottest chick in early bleach.

    • @A_Black_Sheep94
      @A_Black_Sheep94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well only one hand she's probably really skilled with her feet 😏

  • @JoseSerrato0420
    @JoseSerrato0420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that the nobility aspect is just a soul society dynamic and not a soul kings palace aspect, as they wouldn't care if the royal families were still on good terms so long as they could maintain the necessary mechanisms the zero division needs. The Shiba still provides Canon rides so they're probably taken care of, and protected by, the Zero Division and they're allowed to mess with the soul society as much as they want(within reason) so long as there's no one else that can make a gate to the soul palace. Kukaku didn't get in trouble after giving Ichigo and co. a ride to seireitei and even let Ganju go home asap (he was home faster than Rukia had time to sneak off and apologize to Kukaku.)

  • @hatefulgaming1800
    @hatefulgaming1800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember watching the bount arc not knowing it was filler and being confused on why she didn't show up, little did I know that it wouldn't get any better.

  • @oxitajotlesmith563
    @oxitajotlesmith563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think it will be interesting in the hell arc if Kukaku and Ichigo actually talk about being related, not sure how they would meet but still

    • @AJ-kt5zo
      @AJ-kt5zo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @ihateflatbunz
    @ihateflatbunz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    We need Ichigo to learn that hes a Shiba man.

    • @camiloiribarren1450
      @camiloiribarren1450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. I wish they explored the mysterious Shiba clan

    • @DTK625
      @DTK625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure he learned in the light novels

    • @ihateflatbunz
      @ihateflatbunz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DTK625 really?

    • @DTK625
      @DTK625 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ihateflatbunz yes. I remember reading about light novel spoilers and it said that Ichigo does know that he is related to the Shibas

    • @ierbutza21
      @ierbutza21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He might know,however does she ?

  • @michaelanthony2520
    @michaelanthony2520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro I'm addicted to your videos especially the character breakdowns always nice to kill a little time at work with the longer ones I do have a solid request that I think would get you quite a bit of views I'd like to hear your opinion on aging in the bleach universe like how does retsu look in her 20s but Yama look like he was 100 do you just stay the way you look when you move on but then we seen gin rukia renji an others as kids and grow idk just always been curious your intake on that keep up the good work though man

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love of my life

  • @jsull81
    @jsull81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think she is familiar with Yoruichi & Kisuke because they are all nobles*, so they've all probably known each other since they were kids. But I can see your theory about kisuke helping the Shibas get out of the Seireitei being true either way
    *I believe the theory that Kisuke comes from the unnamed 5th Noble family. Only because it would solve this question, as well as, why both Urahara's background along with the background of the fifth Noble family, have yet to be expanded upon or even mentioned. But ultimately it's just a guess 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @bleachfan.619
    @bleachfan.619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shiba clan getting recognition 🎉

  • @admusic247
    @admusic247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brooo thank you so much for this video. I love kukkaku and have been waiting for a video! I requested this months ago and idk if you saw it but thanks soooooo much!

  • @k2basior
    @k2basior 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone remember the times when there was a theory that Kukaku is a prior RG member who lost her hand as the Oken was taken from her. I think 13 blades further fired up this theory as well the fact her Canon is used to get to the RR.
    As per power I see her as somehow around Sasakibe lv. She used high level Kido and gives wibes of being strong.

  • @sdkingz84
    @sdkingz84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As you said in the middle of the video how both her and Gangu had different relationships with Kaien and so she felt a certain way of dealing with his death and I think she understood. I believe is for Gangu to make peace with this death and the person who "saved" Kaien from that hollow.

  • @NihilistSolitude
    @NihilistSolitude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always saw Kukaku as an old mirror image of Karen (Ichigo Sister)

  • @richard_n
    @richard_n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kukaku is definitely one of my top 5 favorite characters. She makes such an impact in so few moments that you know she's a great character.

  • @lazybear427
    @lazybear427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That thing about the elements pretty true.
    Kukaku has sky tattoo to her arm
    Kaien is water
    Isshin fire
    Genju earth

  • @carsandsports123
    @carsandsports123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree that she owed Kisuke for helping either Isshin or helping them directly in relation to Isshin departure

  • @zerohoraaa
    @zerohoraaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Ganju and Rukia thing always seen to me like a fake memory of young Ganju. Rukia probably got there complete destroyed with red eyes after crying her heart out, but Ganju as a kid could only see his dead brother body and the shinigami who kills it.

    • @su96su
      @su96su ปีที่แล้ว

      To add on. Maybe it wasn't his body she was dragging but Kaien's black robe. It would make a bit more sense.

  • @seirramoon388
    @seirramoon388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man just imagine if ichigo told her and ganju his dad's name before being a kurosaki XD

  • @hadiyazid
    @hadiyazid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the reason SS allow Shiba Clan to still survive is their direct connection with the Soul King Palace. The Shiba Clan is the only Great Noble Family from among those Five Great Noble Houses with intricacy knowledge of transportation from SS to the SK Palace and they, apparently, possess the map (I assume for the Tenchuren to fly at the right trajectory upon launching to bypass the 72 layers). Without the Shiba Clan, there is no mean for transportation upwards (although I pretty confident certain people like Senjumaru or Urahara might know how to circumvent it). I like to think the Royal Guard might intervened by instructing SS to leave the Shiba Clan alone as they are not a threat.

  • @j4nk3n
    @j4nk3n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can really tell ichigo is a relative of the Shiba clan, I mean put orange hair on kaien and its basically ichigo!

  • @fffx2
    @fffx2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kukaku could have become a top tier waifu

  • @calcifur
    @calcifur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Could you do a video on why there are clans? It's very confusing since as far as I'm aware there is no way to be born in the soul society. How are there families at all if they're all just souls without memory of their lives?

    • @katp2981
      @katp2981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I recall right, if you have enough spiritual power, you can have children. It's why so many shinigami are of noble lines, major and minor. It came up the Souls character book, I believe.

    • @DeepRest420
      @DeepRest420 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am by no means a Bleach expert but i think as long as you have "spirit power" you can age and even have children in soul society.

    • @clearspira
      @clearspira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you cannot get pregnant in Soul Society then how did Rukia have Ichika?

    • @calcifur
      @calcifur 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clearspira I assumed Gigai like Isshin

  • @shinkenhakkyoken8655
    @shinkenhakkyoken8655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if Kukaku lost her arm defending the estate of the Shiba clan (if and) when they were being attacked and forcibly removed from Seireitei?

  • @hey608
    @hey608 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, I was waiting for her.

  • @mybestfriendisamonkey173
    @mybestfriendisamonkey173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Without a doubt brosky! I always thought that with a woman who is undoubtedly skimmed over. Especially the level of respect she gets from captains as well as high ranking srs all around her.

  • @jesusrasgado4603
    @jesusrasgado4603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kukaku, Ichigo, and Kaien are the only three characters with that droopy eye design in all of Bleach. Cannot be a coincidence. Kubo teased Ichigo’s heritage from the beginning.

  • @HogoshaAndImbachi
    @HogoshaAndImbachi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    While this is just speculation, nobility is usually only nobility if it provides something to the Monarchy, in the case of the Shiba family, it may be transportation to the Royal Palace. It is most likely that a much older Shiba invented the cannon and passed down how to use it throughout generations. That may even be why Kukaku is the head of the Shiba family, since she knows how to use it.

  • @Lily_Selverne
    @Lily_Selverne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IThe theme of the Shiba is not really them controlling elements, their theme is about dominion over the three realms of earth (Ganju), sea (Kaien), sky (Kukkaku) from Celtic mythology represented by the Great Triskele which inspired she Shiba family's spiral-shaped crest.

  • @BleachBtch
    @BleachBtch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeaaahhhh, really wish we got more of her 😔😔

  • @miltons.2462
    @miltons.2462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never knew that she was missing an arm 😲😲 I just rewatched the episode where she is introduced and noticed the prosthetic arm.

  • @coronbrown9238
    @coronbrown9238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d love to see this character in the last arc!!!!!! Especially in a battle. I’d love the last arc to be a combination of all types of characters we’ve seen through the series vs hell. If possible

  • @lucilou3775
    @lucilou3775 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is it me or does it feel kinda obvious that they seem more like ninjas if anything from the way they dress weapons use the whole element stuff thats the vibe anyway (referring to how the shibas are now)

  • @walker1033
    @walker1033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly she always looked like an older version of Karin. Which I suppose makes sense since she is a relative of theirs

  • @seanfall
    @seanfall 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So about the whole front door thing, not going to Kukaku right away. It was Ichigo who approached the 'front door' as it were. That wasn't Yourichi (sp?) it was Strawberry blundering in.

  • @Phantom_8222
    @Phantom_8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be really cool if we got a light novel involving the shiba clan and their re-inegration to the sereite since ichigo now has deep ties with the most authoritive figures in the series.

  • @animeato7865
    @animeato7865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i forgot she existed
    guess thats why this series exist🤣🤣

  • @coreymuniz6657
    @coreymuniz6657 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regardless of how old Kukaku is, she at least met squad zero when Hikifune was recruited.

  • @gumerzambrano
    @gumerzambrano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an amazing video!

  • @nyankahana6447
    @nyankahana6447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kukaku was one of the first characters young boys really liked for all the different reasons than all the other characters before SS arc

  • @Shinntoku
    @Shinntoku ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they added a prosthetic arm because it made animation easier. They didn't have to put extra work into making sure she was actually moving and interacting with her environment with one arm

  • @furuyawn
    @furuyawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i like that you pointed out that her role felt bigger than it actually was. idk why she was so memorable to me. maybe because she was my gay awakening lmfao

  • @marquisgray8055
    @marquisgray8055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If Only Shonen Jump gave Tite Kubo enough time as they did One Piece. Might not have been as long as that story but there would've been a bit more dept into what make sense into some of the characters.

  • @ShippuuNaruto
    @ShippuuNaruto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have loved to learn more about the different noble houses, their history etc.
    Kukaku is a great character right from the beginning and you want to know more about her!
    A prequel to Bleach about the Soul Society would be amazing!

  • @Chronoflation
    @Chronoflation ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if Kukaku was the head of the household before losing her arm and then it went to her vice captain brother who was weaker than she was when she had both arms, but became considered to be more whole and have more potential after she lost her arm. Even though he's the older brother and you'd think it'd go to him first, if she was more powerful from a young age, it could be that she was far stronger than him, as all of them are likely to be around 100 years old or more considering how slowly bodies age in soul society. Maybe she reached Captain level strength 50 years ago but then lost her arm in a battle as a soul reaper, but was kicked out after losing her arm, building some of that animosity towards the soul reapers that their family has

  • @djnovak8706
    @djnovak8706 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always felt like Kukaku and Ganju would have helped durring the Hueco Mundo part of the Arrancar arc. Seems like if they were involved in the Aaraniero part of the story along with Rukia it would have been even more dramatic.

  • @daelix20
    @daelix20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think kukaku can just walk in whenever she wants to the soul society. She probably coukd have walked them in. That might have been yuraichis idwa initialy, and kukaku was just "nah, im gonna fire you in. Dont get to use the cannon enough"

  • @TheArchangel46
    @TheArchangel46 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if Kukaku is saying Ishin is her uncle then that makes her and Ichigo cousins, her dad and ishin are brothers, which would mean she's not older than Ichigo's dad, as a matter of fact that makes her younger than Ishin.

  • @alkismasih414
    @alkismasih414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She gives Captain vibes for sure; which there was more of a highlight

  • @jaredmn8580
    @jaredmn8580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's crazy how little screentime she has

  • @XxxX-kg2pm
    @XxxX-kg2pm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 29:30 or so, when you say that ganju saw rukia drag kaiens corpse. My head cannon was that Aizen prob had something to do with that (you know like how he faked his death) since he was the one who also made the hollow that ended up killing kaien.

  • @rehanmughal2653
    @rehanmughal2653 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if Isshin is not regarded as highly as Kaien by Kukaku and Ganju is because of his sudden disappearance from soul society without an explanation. He had a pretty aloof carefree attitude so they perhaps didn't think it was for a noble self-sacrificing reason. Even if they didn't believe what soul society said the reason was and Urahara explained the situation to them it doesn't seem like they were ever in contact with each other.
    I think they did recognise Ichigo's likeness with Kaien but gave him tough love because he reminded them so much of Kaien but he was still young and lacking in a lot of things and because he did not recognise them despite being family, so maybe thinking it was a light snub by Isshin by being lazy and not teaching him about their clan, they jokingly took it out on Ichigo. I think Kukaku recognised Ichigo immediately or was told beforehand by Yoruichi and Ganju perhaps didn't recognise him or want to accept it at first because Kaien was held in such high regard by him and Ichigo was a rude kid from his first impression.
    Their dislike of Soul reapers could stem from them distrusting the organisation that led to the death/disappearance of 2 beloved family members. They might have theorised that the Shiba clan had been targeted as a way of removing them completely because both Kaien and Isshin's circumstances were suspicious and without evidence.

  • @francoislatulippe7183
    @francoislatulippe7183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe the Shiba canon was considered at some point to be the "contribution" to SS needed to be part of the zero division, but the Shiba clan being "people" peoples, refused that honor to be part of zero division, with the fine prints about the zero division using their services at will if needed.
    Or maybe Kubo just needed some excuse of transportation that would not be accessible to all, and just thought: "hey you know what would be neat to use? A big canon to freak out Ichigo and friends for comic relief, and ive got just the thing"

  • @lopaa9
    @lopaa9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think if Ishin is kukakus uncle then one of her parents is presumably Ishins sibling so kukaku kien and ganju are ichigos first cousins

  • @mattstyles2498
    @mattstyles2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont think she has to be capt lvl. Not every spirt is a soul reaper. Byakuya says only every 100 years a member of the noble family achieves bankia. Which means there are prob tons of super rich family members that arent apart of the gotei. Central 46 isnt a soul reaper organization. Nobility are important people in charge. Soul reapers are the military. Ya some noble become important member of military but that would be the exception not really the rule. No different than super rich powerful family in the real world.