Yea I don't see why anyone would make VR controllers that are not knuckles inspired, the knuckles controllers seem way better than any other VR controller.
Same, I am hoping this will be my first headset too, If I were to get a normal headset I would need to get a new PC too, knowing my Laptop now is a work laptop it wouldn't be a good idea to try playing VR games with the headset, so knowing they made something that doesn't require a PC is great, I cant wait!
@@hynnd323 I think it would come down to which design can cover more ground faster. Knuckles gives you more sensitivity for fine finger movements, but a pistol or grip-based controller intuitively feels better for holding tools and weapons and throwing things. There's a design in progress you can find on here where they use an elastic-band to grip a controller to a person's hand, with in-facing sensors measuring finger movements, and pressure sensors on the controller. It gave them the ability to control grip strength intuitively, as well as actually do a throwing motion without fear of throwing the controller when letting go of the controller. You don't really get the feeling of gripping a tool with knuckles (until they seriously beast that haptic feedback mechanism), but I imagine the future will most likely develop a means of synergizing the two. Having a glove design as well as a responsive, haptic tool controller will give a pretty wide degree of data for managing user input.
Great preview....but for the love of god with 50 launch games why arent they allowing people to play more then beat saber!!! I'm so worried they look so bad they don't want to show off real games.
@@gamingrecroom Superhot was demoed already at OC5 It looks really nice! Don't worry about looks. It is actually close to psvr graphics wise I believe.
@@chacho109 you notice Beat Saber and Super Hot are 2 of the least graphical games that they demoed? BS has no real graphics but your light sabers and squares coming at you. SH is 3 colors with zero details in the characters. They are all red. No features so no memory to take up details. Show us games side by side like Job Simulator.
Standalone VR will probably be the future of entertainment but I still think that it will be better if you get the Rift S until the processor, game library, and storage on standalone get better. Quest will still be better choice for those who dont want to invest in a pc but they are getting cheaper and more people have them now.
Honestly your probably better of getting the new valve headset or a more highend headset, you have the money for a gaming pc so better not cheap out on the rift s. If you dont have much money the quest is pretty awesome, to bad Facebook made it.
@@bertjedekat also a good option. Been meaning to do some research on the new vive coming up. Hopefully it has new features instead of just better tracking and resolution which are still good.
@@novastargalaxayplayz3404 It's not a new Vive, it's an original new headset from Valve with no HTC to be found. The greatest new feature is the Knuckles controllers, look them up! The devkits Valve made are for vive but we all know Valve are making them the exclusive controllers for the Index.
Honestly, I view standalone as more of a coffee table toy. It's just too limited, and I worry the hordes of hyped commenter here planing to buy the Quest, are just going to be regretting the 98% of content they're locked out from in just a years time. All the real and worthwhile experiences are going to be PC powered, and owners of tethered headsets will still be able to use them years from now. It's the same story as PC vs Console gaming. Cheaper better wireless and newer battery technologies will be the more significant change for VR as a whole.
If they included an official wireless "PC-To-HMD" streaming capability at launch, effectively allowing all Oculus and SteamVR games to be compatible, it would absolutely CRUSH the VR market. Oculus Quest would be THE go to VR headset. I heard that this will be a thing eventually, whether official or third-party, but I'll wait to be sure.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but if the lower resolution rift and vive couldn't achieve vr streaming over a normal 5g network to an adapter because of latency, video quality, and dropping mad frames, the quest will certainly not be able to. Even if third party apps are released to attempt this, it wont be even an okay experience.
I am new to VR. I really appreciated the amount of detail you provided without the complexity. Very easy for me to follow along and get even more excited about my quest.
Just curious, at what time are you seeing it? All I'm seeing is some vignetting for one game, which is likely cause it uses thumbstick movement and it's a comfort setting.
@@NikoKun All of game footage shows heavy pixelation at the edges. For example pause at 3:19 and look at the girl on the left or at the yellow lights on top: they're sharp in the middle, but pixelated at the edge of view
@@TautalG I suppose I can kinda see that.. But wow is that subtle.. Hard to tell either way. I know they're using it for Quest, so I'm not arguing or anything, just surprised someone can see that. lol
Its going to sit on the charger longer than it will your face sadly. But wireless does that, If there is a battery pack clip for my pocket that would change my mind. Sadly non PC powered headsets hurt VR a little but help it a little as well. Graphics VS Portability.
@@sambam007 That will likely not be the case. Also even PC-grade VR is not good enough at the moment. You would need native 4k on both eyes together with a high refresh rate. Thats undoable even for the best grafic cards on the market at the moment. Also let that be said from a programmer, we are limitated by the laws of physics, we have multicores because we cant make cpus smaller (and faster) anymore. You might have noticed, that grafic cards became bigger and bigger, that is because we need multiple gpus working in conjunction. So its very unlikely to get modern grafic cards into a mobile formfactor, unless we develop quantum computers.
I must say that the statement "If you have a VR ready gaming PC always go for the PC version VR headset" is not always true. I have a VR ready gaming PC and still want the Quest because of the mobility and ease of use. Not needing to start up my computer and having to play in my bedroom (where my pc is located) every time is worth more to me than better performance and graphics. Therefore I'm still choosing the Quest over every other PC VR headset. But as always great video and info!
Keep in mind that it's not just performance and graphics, it's also content. 99% of VR content simply isn't going to be available on Quest. The bigger and more complex games, even if they have lower graphics, won't run on Quest. Games such as VR-Chat, which eat up 20gb of your hard-drive, would be a nightmare on Quest's tiny 64gb storage. Games that utilize full body tracking, will not be possible on Quest. Games that you get immersed in for more than three hours, will be painful to play on quest. There's a huge list of compromises.
I was thinking about getting a rift s until i realized that i have little to no space next to my pc and that i broke my usb 3 ports on the front. And on the weekend i go to my parents' house so i can't carry my desktop everywhere i go. If you are traveling somewhere, the quest would be amazing to have with you. I just cant comprehend that vr can be in such a small device!
@@Someone-ig7we Have you played VR-Chat on Quest and on PC-VR? The phrase I used, "huge list of compromises" couldn't apply more. The quest version of the game had to be massively cut down and with ruthless hard limits and restrictions place on it to allow it to run.
@@UnknownSquid You said it "would be a nightmare". It being cut down does not mean it is a "nightmare", unless you've been spoiled. Most people would not see it as a "nightmare", it's just a lower quality version of it. IMO if someone hasn't played PCVR then they'd be completely fine with it :/
Had a blast there. Very nice to meet you today. I was probably the last guy that talked to you before you left the booth. Thanks again for your reviews and research.
This is all I want. I sold my PC headsets to go full wireless. No more Windows for me. I can cope with simpler graphics and games. I bet there will be more powerful Quest replacement with time. I'm dying of hype!
You could have gotten a TPCast, but I understand $300 is steep for most people just to remove a wire. Also, unless you're very patient, you probably don't want to deal with setting the thing up, or troubleshooting. However, when it works, it's incredible. No going back for me.
@@wqeoqewpoiepqpeiopeqwoipwq9375 In fact, I want it too :D I love VR and I watch everything about it. I am currently trying to live completely with a standalone system. Maybe with the help of ALVR for specific games if possible. The reason is that I am a Mac user and I have to restart the computer and use Windows with Bootcamp to play in VR. I hate that. I have an Oculus Go and I love the ease of use. I don't want to spend half the time I have to use VR fighting with Windows, SteamVR, sound, updates, cables... The thing is, I'm not 100% sure if Quest will be able to fulfill all my expectations of good VR after being used to Vive. So it's possible that I ended buying a PC HMD later too (and right now, Index is my favorite).
@@AiRJacobs Yeah, I've owned a Vive (OG) for years and I had a Samsung Odyssey too (in fact, Quest will be my 7th HMD). I know this world. That's why I want to go simpler but probably using it much more. For me, swapping to Windows is too much hassle to play VR unless I have plenty of time. Again, I'm just trying.I may not be able to hold out and end up buying a PC HMD as well. My hope is ALVR, even if it's not perfect, it can calm my desire.
Still dont understand why they didnt give it a detachable cable for pcvr and only sell the quest. If the quest could use your pc there 0 point in getting a rift s quest is better display
I was originally fully devoted to getting myself a Quest, but upon the announcements of the Rift S and the Index, I really have no idea! (Saying this as a person whose only VR headset is a Google Cardboard, not a previous Rift owner)
@DJ Kent...Same here. That Valve headset looks much better than anything Oculus have ever come up with. They just need to get the price right. If they don't then i guess i will go for my second choice, the Oculus Quest.
But you have to consider it’s physical size. An extra 64gb might not seem like much, but there is very little space to work with in terms of hardware. Still doesn’t justify an extra $100, but it’s something to consider.
I think the Quest should be far more expensive than $399 anyway, I think they are real gunning for a low price to try to get as many people in BR as possible.
I think it was a huge mistake to go for the 835 processor. The headset is huge compared to a phone so they can cool the 855 really good, the performance would have been amazing!
Simon Better Specs = more expensive. Standalone VR really can’t be much more expensive than this as it would deter a lot of people who don’t want to pay that much.
They could have at least gone with the 845 processor, which costs just $12 more than the 835. It would have given a 30% boost in 3D graphics processing and 30% improvement in energy efficiency. But $12 was too much for the penny pinchers at Oculus.
Just wait...over the next few years, they will (most likely) keep upgrading their products and in doing so, they will need to use better processing chips and better technology. As the years go by, our tech is advancing greatly, and so with the advancement of our tech, will come the advancement of our VR devices.
Nice work Mike. It will be interesting to see the The Climb translates to the Quest. Specifically the controller occlusion you mentioned. If your controllers are in front of you on a cliff face and you look behind / down for the view will the tracking lose your hand location or grip? Looks amazing tech but shame about the 100 price increase for the extra 64gb.
At first I was very excited to save up and get the Oculus Quest, however I had changed my mind a month ago and bought an Oculus Go. Firstly, I realised that I wanted something that was more portable and something I could take on the go. Secondly, I realised the only games that I really wanted for the system were Beat Saber and VRChat which VRChat could be played on the Oculus Go through something like Virtual Desktop or Big Screen with a controller (I think there's a way to mod Beat Saber too however I think a proper gaming PC is required in order to do so.) Lastly, I found out that the Oculus Go was perfect for watching 360° Videos and watching Netflix and TH-cam, i've had such a relaxing and fun time playing simple yet unique games such as Virtual Virtual Reality with the Oculus Go and lying down in bed watching Netflix. If you have simular prefrences to me then you should at least consider the GO, also if you really want 6 degrees of freedom then you could search up a TH-cam tutorial and mod it onto your GO. Thanks for reading.
Rift S is not an oculus product. It's a lenovo kit with an Oculus logo slapped on it. Kinda like Gear VR, Oculus has nothing to do with it except some software and the logo on it.
@@sqlevolicious oculus wanted to make the cheapest to produce desktop headset ....lenovo could have made anything oculus would order .....the go being produced by xiaomi and the rifts being produced by lenovo and a pixel phone being produced by lg or whatever company is irrelevant
I think you are wrong about not being able to mod beatsaber. Carmack revealed the Quest can side-load, the Quest runs on a custom still-supported Android 7 OS, and it has a data cable to transfer with, and Beatsaber has no real changes to it's code other than graphical. It's 100% certain that modding is possible, however, the time it will take for modsaber devs to build an APK is unknown. I would not not be surprised if modsaber had a app out within the first few days. The real struggle is storage space. Really disappointed there isn't a 256gb or 500gb version and no expandable storage option. 64gb and 126gb is unacceptable for the Quest.
Just going off other peoples hands on experience besides this video and going over the specs a lot of people don't like it. I believe that the specs alone speaks for itself. If you have an Oculus Go this is going to be the same thing with a few tweaks if that. I honestly don't believe it's worth the money but some people are trying real hard to sell us on it don't be fooled people.
It all depends on what you want from your VR experience. HTC Vive and Oculus Rift have better specs in terms of visual performance, but that only goes so far. Being tethered to a PC is a HUGE drawback when it comes to creating total immersion. I would much rather use a standalone headset that allows me to physically walk/run around my virtual environment. Also, the Oculus Quest literally could not be any more different than the Oculus Go. To say the Quest is "the same thing with a few tweaks" is completely absurd.
I love how he lists all the things that “wont be able to happen with portable vr or not within the visible future” and yet only 1 year after this all of them came true: connection to pc for steam games, higher resolution displays than the valve index and high quality games
For what purpose? Pre-ordering is a chumps idiot tax. Purchasing things based on hype only encourages bad business practices and exploitation of potentially deceptive hype marketing.
@@UnknownSquid For what purpose? To be at the front of the queue and get my Quest a few days sooner. I have plenty of money, so I'd be happy to let $500 hold my place in line. And I'm not concerned about hype, since I already know the Go is a great product. It seems extremely unlikely that every reviewer is lying about the awesomeness of the Quest.
Having a lot of experience trying to stream vr over a network through a lot of apps and services, I'd say that probably won't be anywhere near a good or even okay experience for 99% of people, even with a 5g wifi connection. It barely works for 3dof, and it really falls apart for 6dof because there are a lot more pixels info changing when you can move your head and hands spatially so you will drop frames like crazy and there will be an ungodly amount of artifacting.
ALVR is garbage and will never work, it's inherently flawed. Also, Quest is not compatible with streaming games via cable, it lacks the hardware to do so.
@@tannerdudeman Still, Cost-effective wireless VR is something many long for. It's not to say TPCast isn't an option, but it adds to the total expense and you're still stuck with external sensors. I can only hope for the potential of ALVR.
@@Ohem1 Dude, if you're just trying to play Steam VR games then just get a normal Oculus Rift. You presumably have a good computer so if you're talking about ALVR, you may as well just purchase a good headset.
@@Aeviu Please read my comment again, "Cost-effective WIRELESS VR". While SteamVR is an incentive to get a VR headset, I'd only do so when the headset is more practical to use.
I liked the segment at the beginning of setting expectations. With the snapdragon did you notice any difference in your expectations of how graphics and games looked vs how you thought they would? If you did, do you think marketing efforts should be in place to also set expectations?
@@antitrustanonyme6322 it was a joke but thanks, but still you can play in the train or even in the airplane but only the vr games where no movement is required
@Bill Anderson its not that bad like for sure its not the highest and newesr vr experience but it is a fucking portable device. I think thats great. But yea you can always hate. And btw the rift also loses tracking if you have only 2 sensors so yea
All these years with my pc vr system I thought the main selling point of a standalone headset with full motion tracking would be to be able to walk and run in game instead of teleporting. But all the games I see in quest are arcade games and nobody is talking about the ability to walk in an adventure game... My question is can we walk with the quest or not? Does it make any sense to imagine that I would play in a park or a football field outside so I can walk in game most of the time instead of teleporting?
Not being able to Super Sample is a no go for me, this could be fun for my kids. Could be a fun party deal but the short battery life is the nail in the coffin for me for my personal use.
I don’t think so, the market isn’t ready for Rift 2 with eye tracking, wide FOV and high resolution as not many people own a powerful enough PC. It would be naive to think they’re getting out of the PC market after investing hundreds of thousands of dollars in PC game funding. The Respawn title is still in the works []-)
Virtual Reality Oasis I totally agree re Rift 2.0, but by the time they would have gotten around to that the Quest will have become their bread and better and also the pcvr market will be in jeopardy due to streaming content from stadia, nvidia, apple and steam. Oculus should have updated Rift with Quest specs with optional outside in tracking, which seems to be what valve index may be doing.
Here’s my question. I have a powerful PC, but I also already have an oculus rift. When my friends come over, we all take turns playing beatsaber or we connect with each other on Minecraft through its cross platform compatibilities. Should I buy an oculus quest so that my friends can play games with me in VR, or should I sell my rift and buy the rift S to get a better upgrade?
you prolly dont give a shit but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all the latest series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my girlfriend for the last couple of days :)
He warned us a few times, this will not be like PC VR and I think that's where I'm spoiled already and will not like the limited kind of games I can play
It's still the $200 option. I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon, and my kid who worked at Best Buy told me it was a huge hit last Christmas. Top 3 things they couldn't keep in stock was GoPro's, Nintendo Switches, and the Go
Question: could Oculus create a Quest-like mobile device with a miniaturized NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 onboard? This would provide the TRUE Rift experience, rather than "Rift-like" experiences. Sure the cost wouldn't be as low, but I think many would be OK with that.
Not a chance. Power consumption of a 1060 would already exceed what this tiny mobile processor consumes alone. And the thermals would be atrocious. The "active cooling" that the quest has is pitiful compared to even the most basic laptop which already sacrifice the considerable majority of the 1060s normal heatsink volume. To fit one in a headset you'd be running that GPU at half capacity at best.
I played Dead & Buried 2 at PAX East earlier today with my son. As expected, the graphics weren't great, but the controls were very responsive. The headset felt small as I had trouble putting it on over my glasses. Maybe the final version will have some adjustments to help it better fit people with glasses, like the Oculus Go.
I recently bought the Go. I have a high end gaming pc but I dont want to be tethered to it as I'm often not at home so I'll probably buy this. Great early review as always bud. Many thanks.
Hmmm, there seem to be quite a few "issues" that look more like withheld features. I can see no reason not to allow a plug and play setup to allow people to connect it to their PC. They obviously have the technology to do it. Nor can I see any reason why they wouldn't place cameras into the head strap to solve the tracking issue, they already have a set of sub-par headphones in there.
"if you've been waiting to get a pc vr headset, this is definitely the one you should get." Rtx 2080 setup, def been waiting, which is why I follow u and vr news so intensely. This comment makes me think FB has you bought and paid for. New Vive models? Valve Index? Been a fan for a while, which is why this type of comment concerns me.
For clarification; the Quest may or may not have a dedicated app for streaming your PC to the Quest, but there are apps that can do that for any headset, including the Go. Latency issues could be dependent on your setup, and not the hardware (nic card) of the Quest since the Go manages streaming just fine if kept withing reasonable temps. Walling your user base (segmented) in the adoption phase is not a good idea, but I can understand why they want to do it from a business standpoint, but it does goes against their goal of mass adoption. In the beginning of any new tech, the innovators have to take the initial hit in order to lay down the foundation and attract. Every early software company knows this btw. To me it seems Oculus is stirring into the Apple model. I hope I'm wrong.
At 9:20 damn it, they didn't fix the battery orientation! Unless they have a stronger spring, the battery will still dislodge momentarily during high speed swings in Best Saber. That's a bit of a bummer...
That's like saying you want to be able to pedal your bicycle as fast as the new tesla as long as it can support the weight of your two dogs, and if not, you want your legs cut off so you can crawl around instead. Reality is, the Quest is already a far better VR kit than the PSVR can ever be. If you really want more and want to stick with Sony, wait for PS5 and the PSVR2. Though it doesn't make sense financially since you can spend close to the same on a PCVR setup (assuming the PS5 and PSVR2 will cost a combined $800-900) and get a far better experience.
What if you have a mediocre PC? My pc might be able to handle VR, but if so not well. I could of course upgrade my pc, which is something I have been contemplating anyways to run normal games better. However, in terms of VR specifically, is the benefit of better gameplay and more games and stuff worth the cost of upgrading my PC, or if I don't upgrade my PC and run games at non-optimal settings would that just nullify the benefits? Is the lack of cord with the quest(which sounds awesome) worth the trade-off?
Can't get enough of the Quest videos right now, very much looking forward to getting my hands on one. I was intrigued to hear you say you think it'll be unlikely to get custom songs on Beat Saber. I thought the general consensus was that you'll be able to sideload on Quest as easily as you can on Go, so modding for Beat Saber should be possible. Did you learn/hear something on this trip to contradict that?
How many mods for android games have you ever heard of? There programs like lucky patcher that can modify games to remove adverts etc. So there very well could be mods on the quest. It just depends if the people making ye windows mods even have any idea how to do that or can find someone willing to do the work.
Yeah, although it’s likely going to be harder to mod a mobile app. Also remember this is essentially circumventing security to hack the game and will require side loading []-/
its not enough of an improvement over the go to warrant the extra expense of the quest. They have priced it a little too high in my view, which i guess is normal for a new release..
Agreed. I just got a Go (really late, was led to believe it was just as bad as the Gear) and love it. I was turned off as soon as I heard the price tag. From what I can see, only difference is 6dof
Put a module on the back of the harness that: 1. Holds a larger battery to counterweight the HMD for better balance and life 2. Has 2 more cameras to cover the dead spots 3. Has a VRLink port so you can run it wired from your PC when you want, and detach it for wireless independent when you don't 4. Raises the price to $500 and take my goddamn money
I will sell my Oculus Rift and buy me an Oculus Quest, i hate all the cables on the rift and the sensors and i don't want to plug everything in and or out when i want to use VR , so i am happy to see that the quest is good enough for the most things and me ^^
I'm so excited about quest. Not because i will ever buy one, as it does not suit my vr needs, but because of what it could do for vr in terms of making vr its own platform instead of being seen as just an accessory. I believe many people initially though of vr as a gimmick, because it was easy to lump in with Kinect and PSmove seeing as they were optional hardware accessories that were touted to change the way we play games but fell flat due to them being a cheap substitute for vr before the HMD tech was ready.
@wittybush_...Did you not hear what he said in the video? PCVR will always give a better experience than something with a two and a half year old mobile processor.
@@dtz1000 The moment this takes off. The mass will love it, soon it will rise up to become a much more powerful and cheaper alternative. This is a roadmap you have to look at.
Hi I am an Oculus developer and I am very excited to get the Quest to start to develop for this device. Humble, I think that the Quest will create a Massive VR Market. Maybe this one have not the best Quality experience or other tech topic but for its price and because all the people will not have Rift / HTC Vive and Go at the same time so they can not compare which is the best, for it., It is the best option for me.. My dream is the VR for all !!! It will be a great tool for learning !!!!
I am very excited, I think it is the perfect device for those, like myself, who don't have a pc strong enough to run the rift or the money to purchase said pc. I love robo recall on the rift so can't wait to play that in my own home instead of bugging my buddy to play on the rift. With that said, please for the love of all things, when the hell is the release date? Haha, I know you don't know but man, early spring to me is now.
one of the questions I have is how well does the devise stick to your head? Can you feel it wobble around when you shake your head, does it feel like it's going to fall off or does it fit snug and tight on your head like a headlamp.
Even though I own a Rift I still want one of these! The true deciding factor for me will be a review of Robo Recall running on it. That game probably makes best use of the touch controllers on the Rift, and is quite simply the best touch experience, period. If that game play can be reproduced in the Quest, the lower graphics simply won't matter. It would be worth the entry price alone. It's THAT good! Great video man! It was awesome to get a first look from someone who knows their stuff.
I'd love something simple to buy along with the quest, maybe like an outside processor with extra storage that you can plug into the headset itself, amping up what games you can play on it. Like a mini gaming PC that fits in your pocket and can simple be connected to the back of the vr, one can dream
Thanks, GREAT VIDEO! I'm super excited to see how games like superhot and space pirate trainer play on the quest, and how they compare to the experience you get on the Vive or rift!
I suspect the reason the show model has the leather face padding and plastic backing is to allow the staff to wipe the headsets with a disinfectant between users
Thank you so much for this video! I've been living off scraps of details for the Quest but this video answered it all and then some. This is the first that I've heard of the feature that will allow you to see outside the VR (albeit black and white and grainy, as you specified) without taking the headset off. Really excited for Vader Immortal as well!
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This might become my first VR headset, I hope any future oculus controllers will be compatible with this headset
quest+knuckles style controllers hmmmmmmmmmm
Yea I don't see why anyone would make VR controllers that are not knuckles inspired, the knuckles controllers seem way better than any other VR controller.
same, the first one after the low tier google cardboard xD
Same, I am hoping this will be my first headset too, If I were to get a normal headset I would need to get a new PC too, knowing my Laptop now is a work laptop it wouldn't be a good idea to try playing VR games with the headset, so knowing they made something that doesn't require a PC is great, I cant wait!
@@hynnd323 I think it would come down to which design can cover more ground faster. Knuckles gives you more sensitivity for fine finger movements, but a pistol or grip-based controller intuitively feels better for holding tools and weapons and throwing things. There's a design in progress you can find on here where they use an elastic-band to grip a controller to a person's hand, with in-facing sensors measuring finger movements, and pressure sensors on the controller. It gave them the ability to control grip strength intuitively, as well as actually do a throwing motion without fear of throwing the controller when letting go of the controller.
You don't really get the feeling of gripping a tool with knuckles (until they seriously beast that haptic feedback mechanism), but I imagine the future will most likely develop a means of synergizing the two. Having a glove design as well as a responsive, haptic tool controller will give a pretty wide degree of data for managing user input.
Great preview....but for the love of god with 50 launch games why arent they allowing people to play more then beat saber!!! I'm so worried they look so bad they don't want to show off real games.
I was also concerned about this... I want to see games like robo recall, superhot, and journey of the gods demoed.
@@gamingrecroom Superhot was demoed already at OC5 It looks really nice! Don't worry about looks. It is actually close to psvr graphics wise I believe.
Chacho Franco good to hear. :D
Yeah, I want to see people playing The Unspoken and Richie's Plank Experience on this thing.
@@chacho109 you notice Beat Saber and Super Hot are 2 of the least graphical games that they demoed? BS has no real graphics but your light sabers and squares coming at you. SH is 3 colors with zero details in the characters. They are all red. No features so no memory to take up details. Show us games side by side like Job Simulator.
It’s highly unlikely you’ll be able to connect it to a PC...just wait...just wait
Lol sorry
Ok for sure
Standalone VR will probably be the future of entertainment but I still think that it will be better if you get the Rift S until the processor, game library, and storage on standalone get better. Quest will still be better choice for those who dont want to invest in a pc but they are getting cheaper and more people have them now.
Honestly your probably better of getting the new valve headset or a more highend headset, you have the money for a gaming pc so better not cheap out on the rift s.
If you dont have much money the quest is pretty awesome, to bad Facebook made it.
@@bertjedekat also a good option. Been meaning to do some research on the new vive coming up. Hopefully it has new features instead of just better tracking and resolution which are still good.
@@novastargalaxayplayz3404 It's not a new Vive, it's an original new headset from Valve with no HTC to be found. The greatest new feature is the Knuckles controllers, look them up! The devkits Valve made are for vive but we all know Valve are making them the exclusive controllers for the Index.
If you have gaming pc then yes.
Honestly, I view standalone as more of a coffee table toy. It's just too limited, and I worry the hordes of hyped commenter here planing to buy the Quest, are just going to be regretting the 98% of content they're locked out from in just a years time. All the real and worthwhile experiences are going to be PC powered, and owners of tethered headsets will still be able to use them years from now. It's the same story as PC vs Console gaming. Cheaper better wireless and newer battery technologies will be the more significant change for VR as a whole.
If they included an official wireless "PC-To-HMD" streaming capability at launch, effectively allowing all Oculus and SteamVR games to be compatible, it would absolutely CRUSH the VR market. Oculus Quest would be THE go to VR headset. I heard that this will be a thing eventually, whether official or third-party, but I'll wait to be sure.
Yes, but wouldn't that basically kill off the rift s?
@@Kyass yeah but honestly who tf wants the Rift S? It is a major downgrade from the base Rift.
@@atem9170 Well you do have a point, as it has worse FOV, IPD issues, LED Screen, etc.
@@Kyass Worse FOV? The IPD issue is enough alone to keep me from buying one, but everything I've seen says it has a slightly higher FOV than the Rift.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but if the lower resolution rift and vive couldn't achieve vr streaming over a normal 5g network to an adapter because of latency, video quality, and dropping mad frames, the quest will certainly not be able to. Even if third party apps are released to attempt this, it wont be even an okay experience.
I am new to VR. I really appreciated the amount of detail you provided without the complexity. Very easy for me to follow along and get even more excited about my quest.
I've Been waiting for this video QUEST TIME
@@LIQU1D_COOLJR lol fo real
Touch of Chaos yes my good sir. Yes
@@yz50131 fixhing
Thanks again
@@yz50131 um what???
You can notice the fixed foveated rendering in the footage. Kinda neat to see what that looks like!
Just curious, at what time are you seeing it? All I'm seeing is some vignetting for one game, which is likely cause it uses thumbstick movement and it's a comfort setting.
@@NikoKun All of game footage shows heavy pixelation at the edges. For example pause at 3:19 and look at the girl on the left or at the yellow lights on top: they're sharp in the middle, but pixelated at the edge of view
@@TautalG I suppose I can kinda see that.. But wow is that subtle.. Hard to tell either way. I know they're using it for Quest, so I'm not arguing or anything, just surprised someone can see that. lol
@@NikoKun thats the awesome thing about it. hardly noticeable, but performance gains are there.
@@pkilljoy5797 The other guy says there is heavy pixelation but you say it is hardly noticeable.
This will be the game changer. All in one device with active cooling.
Its going to sit on the charger longer than it will your face sadly. But wireless does that, If there is a battery pack clip for my pocket that would change my mind. Sadly non PC powered headsets hurt VR a little but help it a little as well. Graphics VS Portability.
@@Davidrupa still early days. Eventually PC grade VR will get into a wireless headset. This is like the beginning .
@@sambam007 That will likely not be the case. Also even PC-grade VR is not good enough at the moment. You would need native 4k on both eyes together with a high refresh rate. Thats undoable even for the best grafic cards on the market at the moment.
Also let that be said from a programmer, we are limitated by the laws of physics, we have multicores because we cant make cpus smaller (and faster) anymore. You might have noticed, that grafic cards became bigger and bigger, that is because we need multiple gpus working in conjunction.
So its very unlikely to get modern grafic cards into a mobile formfactor, unless we develop quantum computers.
@@someguy5049 life finds a way
some Guy its like saying....tv wasnt ready until hd came out.
I must say that the statement "If you have a VR ready gaming PC always go for the PC version VR headset" is not always true. I have a VR ready gaming PC and still want the Quest because of the mobility and ease of use. Not needing to start up my computer and having to play in my bedroom (where my pc is located) every time is worth more to me than better performance and graphics.
Therefore I'm still choosing the Quest over every other PC VR headset.
But as always great video and info!
Keep in mind that it's not just performance and graphics, it's also content. 99% of VR content simply isn't going to be available on Quest. The bigger and more complex games, even if they have lower graphics, won't run on Quest. Games such as VR-Chat, which eat up 20gb of your hard-drive, would be a nightmare on Quest's tiny 64gb storage. Games that utilize full body tracking, will not be possible on Quest. Games that you get immersed in for more than three hours, will be painful to play on quest. There's a huge list of compromises.
I was thinking about getting a rift s until i realized that i have little to no space next to my pc and that i broke my usb 3 ports on the front. And on the weekend i go to my parents' house so i can't carry my desktop everywhere i go. If you are traveling somewhere, the quest would be amazing to have with you. I just cant comprehend that vr can be in such a small device!
@@UnknownSquid "Games such as VR-Chat, which eat up 20gb of your hard-drive, would be a nightmare on Quest's tiny 64gb storage." and yet it works OOF
@@Someone-ig7we Have you played VR-Chat on Quest and on PC-VR? The phrase I used, "huge list of compromises" couldn't apply more. The quest version of the game had to be massively cut down and with ruthless hard limits and restrictions place on it to allow it to run.
@@UnknownSquid You said it "would be a nightmare". It being cut down does not mean it is a "nightmare", unless you've been spoiled. Most people would not see it as a "nightmare", it's just a lower quality version of it. IMO if someone hasn't played PCVR then they'd be completely fine with it :/
Had a blast there. Very nice to meet you today. I was probably the last guy that talked to you before you left the booth. Thanks again for your reviews and research.
This is all I want. I sold my PC headsets to go full wireless. No more Windows for me. I can cope with simpler graphics and games. I bet there will be more powerful Quest replacement with time. I'm dying of hype!
you were watching a valve index stream so im confused why you aren't wanting that
You could have gotten a TPCast, but I understand $300 is steep for most people just to remove a wire. Also, unless you're very patient, you probably don't want to deal with setting the thing up, or troubleshooting. However, when it works, it's incredible. No going back for me.
@@wqeoqewpoiepqpeiopeqwoipwq9375 In fact, I want it too :D I love VR and I watch everything about it. I am currently trying to live completely with a standalone system. Maybe with the help of ALVR for specific games if possible. The reason is that I am a Mac user and I have to restart the computer and use Windows with Bootcamp to play in VR. I hate that. I have an Oculus Go and I love the ease of use. I don't want to spend half the time I have to use VR fighting with Windows, SteamVR, sound, updates, cables...
The thing is, I'm not 100% sure if Quest will be able to fulfill all my expectations of good VR after being used to Vive. So it's possible that I ended buying a PC HMD later too (and right now, Index is my favorite).
I'm with you mate, I'm gonna sell mine for the quest because my PC is ok but mostly slow
@@AiRJacobs Yeah, I've owned a Vive (OG) for years and I had a Samsung Odyssey too (in fact, Quest will be my 7th HMD). I know this world. That's why I want to go simpler but probably using it much more. For me, swapping to Windows is too much hassle to play VR unless I have plenty of time.
Again, I'm just trying.I may not be able to hold out and end up buying a PC HMD as well. My hope is ALVR, even if it's not perfect, it can calm my desire.
2:43 yiu can do both of the things you said would be unlickly
this was made before anyone knew if you would be able to
Still dont understand why they didnt give it a detachable cable for pcvr and only sell the quest.
If the quest could use your pc there 0 point in getting a rift s quest is better display
The rift s isn't portable tho
Because it would kill rift S
I was originally fully devoted to getting myself a Quest, but upon the announcements of the Rift S and the Index, I really have no idea!
(Saying this as a person whose only VR headset is a Google Cardboard, not a previous Rift owner)
@DJ Kent...Same here. That Valve headset looks much better than anything Oculus have ever come up with. They just need to get the price right. If they don't then i guess i will go for my second choice, the Oculus Quest.
So they charge 100 USD for extra built-in 64 GB memory. It's a bad joke. Such memory cost 10 USD. They at Facebook are greedy like Apple.
But you have to consider it’s physical size. An extra 64gb might not seem like much, but there is very little space to work with in terms of hardware. Still doesn’t justify an extra $100, but it’s something to consider.
They are probably selling the device at a loss so it’s not that bad.
well the price is still extremly good for the cpu phones with the same cpu cost the same or more
@@marklola12 so 100dollar more for 6d tracking better screen and a completly new OS sounds like a steal to me
I think the Quest should be far more expensive than $399 anyway, I think they are real gunning for a low price to try to get as many people in BR as possible.
no custom tracks?? that might be a deal breaker
Indeed :/
yuuuup
What are custom tracks?
@@nandotemplo custom tracks are song that people make playable in beat saber, so you can play any song without having to buy it
Yeah that made me reconsider it
Aaah... Finally I see what kind of material the headstrap is made of.
Sakkepaahdin rubber
@@denaamisharry1350 I did not ask
Sakkepaahdin its rubber
@@denaamisharry1350 I do not care
Sakkepaahdin the headstrap is Made of rubber
I think it was a huge mistake to go for the 835 processor. The headset is huge compared to a phone so they can cool the 855 really good, the performance would have been amazing!
Simon Better Specs = more expensive. Standalone VR really can’t be much more expensive than this as it would deter a lot of people who don’t want to pay that much.
They could have at least gone with the 845 processor, which costs just $12 more than the 835. It would have given a 30% boost in 3D graphics processing and 30% improvement in energy efficiency. But $12 was too much for the penny pinchers at Oculus.
Just wait...over the next few years, they will (most likely) keep upgrading their products and in doing so, they will need to use better processing chips and better technology. As the years go by, our tech is advancing greatly, and so with the advancement of our tech, will come the advancement of our VR devices.
Nice work Mike. It will be interesting to see the The Climb translates to the Quest. Specifically the controller occlusion you mentioned. If your controllers are in front of you on a cliff face and you look behind / down for the view will the tracking lose your hand location or grip? Looks amazing tech but shame about the 100 price increase for the extra 64gb.
VRChat on the Quest is the last thing I expected to see, but I’m hyped for it.
Considering it lags on a 1080 do you expect it to look and run that much better on this?
@@Davidrupa Exactly why it was the last thing I expected cuz I have no idea how they are going to port it.
@@Davidrupa hmm 1050ti and i have no lags
@@forizeneu258 It is very CPU intensive rather than GPU intensive
Another awesome video Mike! Sending you much respect from Bermuda 🇧🇲
At first I was very excited to save up and get the Oculus Quest, however I had changed my mind a month ago and bought an Oculus Go. Firstly, I realised that I wanted something that was more portable and something I could take on the go. Secondly, I realised the only games that I really wanted for the system were Beat Saber and VRChat which VRChat could be played on the Oculus Go through something like Virtual Desktop or Big Screen with a controller (I think there's a way to mod Beat Saber too however I think a proper gaming PC is required in order to do so.) Lastly, I found out that the Oculus Go was perfect for watching 360° Videos and watching Netflix and TH-cam, i've had such a relaxing and fun time playing simple yet unique games such as Virtual Virtual Reality with the Oculus Go and lying down in bed watching Netflix. If you have simular prefrences to me then you should at least consider the GO, also if you really want 6 degrees of freedom then you could search up a TH-cam tutorial and mod it onto your GO.
Thanks for reading.
Rift S = Quest + HDMI port + decent headphones? Obvious really, but not to Oculus it seems. Pity.
Rift S is not an oculus product. It's a lenovo kit with an Oculus logo slapped on it. Kinda like Gear VR, Oculus has nothing to do with it except some software and the logo on it.
Rifts s doesn't need a cable to run?
What? It's not the same screens and resolution. Quest is higher on both
@@sqlevolicious oculus wanted to make the cheapest to produce desktop headset ....lenovo could have made anything oculus would order .....the go being produced by xiaomi and the rifts being produced by lenovo and a pixel phone being produced by lg or whatever company is irrelevant
I think you are wrong about not being able to mod beatsaber. Carmack revealed the Quest can side-load, the Quest runs on a custom still-supported Android 7 OS, and it has a data cable to transfer with, and Beatsaber has no real changes to it's code other than graphical. It's 100% certain that modding is possible, however, the time it will take for modsaber devs to build an APK is unknown.
I would not not be surprised if modsaber had a app out within the first few days.
The real struggle is storage space. Really disappointed there isn't a 256gb or 500gb version and no expandable storage option. 64gb and 126gb is unacceptable for the Quest.
Just going off other peoples hands on experience besides this video and going over the specs a lot of people don't like it. I believe that the specs alone speaks for itself. If you have an Oculus Go this is going to be the same thing with a few tweaks if that. I honestly don't believe it's worth the money but some people are trying real hard to sell us on it don't be fooled people.
It all depends on what you want from your VR experience. HTC Vive and Oculus Rift have better specs in terms of visual performance, but that only goes so far. Being tethered to a PC is a HUGE drawback when it comes to creating total immersion. I would much rather use a standalone headset that allows me to physically walk/run around my virtual environment. Also, the Oculus Quest literally could not be any more different than the Oculus Go. To say the Quest is "the same thing with a few tweaks" is completely absurd.
Another important detail to remember about the Quest is it’s 6d tracking. In my opinion, this detail cause the Quest to trump the Go
Never underestimate the power of convenience...just check the Nintendo Switch sales and u will b suprised...man will always go 4 the easiest option...
2:48 - hehe! So happy
Great video. It was cool to finally meet you in person today. Thanks
Hey man! You too []-)
I love how he lists all the things that “wont be able to happen with portable vr or not within the visible future” and yet only 1 year after this all of them came true: connection to pc for steam games, higher resolution displays than the valve index and high quality games
I wish Oculus was taking pre-orders.
I would have already ordered it.
Same
For what purpose? Pre-ordering is a chumps idiot tax. Purchasing things based on hype only encourages bad business practices and exploitation of potentially deceptive hype marketing.
@@UnknownSquid For what purpose? To be at the front of the queue and get my Quest a few days sooner. I have plenty of money, so I'd be happy to let $500 hold my place in line. And I'm not concerned about hype, since I already know the Go is a great product. It seems extremely unlikely that every reviewer is lying about the awesomeness of the Quest.
I have always wanted a vr but never had a powerful gaming pc but now I have been waiting since October for oculus quest. Really excited
IKR I have a gaming PC but want a VR to take on the go to play with friends so this is truly epic. :)
Just get a PlayStation VR instead
@@JCMaldonado13 don't play PlayStation not a fan of it
Oculus Quest + ALVR (once supported) + Powerbank.
Having a lot of experience trying to stream vr over a network through a lot of apps and services, I'd say that probably won't be anywhere near a good or even okay experience for 99% of people, even with a 5g wifi connection. It barely works for 3dof, and it really falls apart for 6dof because there are a lot more pixels info changing when you can move your head and hands spatially so you will drop frames like crazy and there will be an ungodly amount of artifacting.
ALVR is garbage and will never work, it's inherently flawed. Also, Quest is not compatible with streaming games via cable, it lacks the hardware to do so.
@@tannerdudeman Still, Cost-effective wireless VR is something many long for. It's not to say TPCast isn't an option, but it adds to the total expense and you're still stuck with external sensors.
I can only hope for the potential of ALVR.
@@Ohem1 Dude, if you're just trying to play Steam VR games then just get a normal Oculus Rift. You presumably have a good computer so if you're talking about ALVR, you may as well just purchase a good headset.
@@Aeviu Please read my comment again, "Cost-effective WIRELESS VR". While SteamVR is an incentive to get a VR headset, I'd only do so when the headset is more practical to use.
What is better this or ps vr because my dad says that this is bad because it doesn’t have wires 😕😒😑
I keep hearing about how great it is but what I want to know is when is it out????
April 30th
@@sqlevolicious another month! Nooooooooo
I was excited but now I think I'm more excited for the reverb.
Keep an eye on the Valve index as a viable competitor to the Reverb. Considerably superior tracking, better FoV, and competitive resolution.
This is the nintendo switch of the VR world - expect heavy support just like with the switch
Spot on, convenience is king.
I liked the segment at the beginning of setting expectations. With the snapdragon did you notice any difference in your expectations of how graphics and games looked vs how you thought they would? If you did, do you think marketing efforts should be in place to also set expectations?
I love the rift but im hyped for the quest bc no wires no setup yea also you can play vr in the train hahaha
Worst idea ever XD
@@antitrustanonyme6322 it was a joke but thanks,
but still you can play in the train or even in the airplane but only the vr games where no movement is required
@@antitrustanonyme6322 dude please dont get the rift s its so bad just get the normal rift its so much better the rift s ia a downgrade btw
@Bill Anderson its not that bad like for sure its not the highest and newesr vr experience but it is a fucking portable device. I think thats great. But yea you can always hate. And btw the rift also loses tracking if you have only 2 sensors so yea
@@antitrustanonyme6322 i dont really know what you mean ive got the rift and i dont have had any problems with it
All these years with my pc vr system I thought the main selling point of a standalone headset with full motion tracking would be to be able to walk and run in game instead of teleporting. But all the games I see in quest are arcade games and nobody is talking about the ability to walk in an adventure game... My question is can we walk with the quest or not? Does it make any sense to imagine that I would play in a park or a football field outside so I can walk in game most of the time instead of teleporting?
You can walk if you want []-)
Not being able to Super Sample is a no go for me, this could be fun for my kids. Could be a fun party deal but the short battery life is the nail in the coffin for me for my personal use.
This thing has got me really wanting to finally get into VR.
i like how everything he said was going to be highly is on the quest
I've just had my first VR experience (excluding Google Cardboard) two days ago. It was amazing, and it makes me want the Quest even more than before.
Thanks for balancing our expectations on the Quest. Oculus are clearly demonstrating they are getting out of PC VR by farming out the Rift S to lenovo
I don’t think so, the market isn’t ready for Rift 2 with eye tracking, wide FOV and high resolution as not many people own a powerful enough PC. It would be naive to think they’re getting out of the PC market after investing hundreds of thousands of dollars in PC game funding. The Respawn title is still in the works []-)
Virtual Reality Oasis I totally agree re Rift 2.0, but by the time they would have gotten around to that the Quest will have become their bread and better and also the pcvr market will be in jeopardy due to streaming content from stadia, nvidia, apple and steam.
Oculus should have updated Rift with Quest specs with optional outside in tracking, which seems to be what valve index may be doing.
Here’s my question. I have a powerful PC, but I also already have an oculus rift. When my friends come over, we all take turns playing beatsaber or we connect with each other on Minecraft through its cross platform compatibilities. Should I buy an oculus quest so that my friends can play games with me in VR, or should I sell my rift and buy the rift S to get a better upgrade?
I cant wait to play vrchat there and nostos
you prolly dont give a shit but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all the latest series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my girlfriend for the last couple of days :)
@Keith Landyn yup, have been watching on InstaFlixxer for months myself :D
How big is beat saber in terms of file size? I want to spend 400 and not 500.
Barely a couple gb from some sources.
He warned us a few times, this will not be like PC VR and I think that's where I'm spoiled already and will not like the limited kind of games I can play
Yeah a mobile VR headset wont ever hold my interest unless it has 1080 powered graphics built in. PCVR has spoiled us.
If u have the money then PC VR is better...not all of us do...
whats happening to the go? It seems to have been left behind cause I spent a good bit of cash for it.
It's still the $200 option. I don't see it going anywhere anytime soon, and my kid who worked at Best Buy told me it was a huge hit last Christmas. Top 3 things they couldn't keep in stock was GoPro's, Nintendo Switches, and the Go
Will my really thick plastic Glasses fit in the glasses spacer? (They didn't fit on the Go)
Contacts
@@bluegleam8168 Money
@@bluegleam8168 if anything I'd get laser eye surgery
@@PastorOogway thats expansive
They will but I would suggest a custom lenses solution like I showed on Oculus Go to prevent scratching the lenses []-)
Question: could Oculus create a Quest-like mobile device with a miniaturized NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 onboard? This would provide the TRUE Rift experience, rather than "Rift-like" experiences. Sure the cost wouldn't be as low, but I think many would be OK with that.
Not a chance. Power consumption of a 1060 would already exceed what this tiny mobile processor consumes alone. And the thermals would be atrocious. The "active cooling" that the quest has is pitiful compared to even the most basic laptop which already sacrifice the considerable majority of the 1060s normal heatsink volume. To fit one in a headset you'd be running that GPU at half capacity at best.
Mad that they didn’t support micro SD.
It just helps out so much.
:/
SD cards are slow they are mainly for movies, photos and music
2:42 however you can already do this for oculus go, so why wouldn't a work around be made for quest?
No, you actually can't sadly. Unless you're referring to sideloading, in which case it's the same thing as the Go
I would really like to watch Netflix on my virtual 1080p virtual TV
Breno What do you mean
Lmfao 1080p will be trash by the time this technology is mass produced
I played Dead & Buried 2 at PAX East earlier today with my son. As expected, the graphics weren't great, but the controls were very responsive. The headset felt small as I had trouble putting it on over my glasses. Maybe the final version will have some adjustments to help it better fit people with glasses, like the Oculus Go.
Cant wait for theaters to give us vr headsets for the movies they want us to watch
Uh no thanks. Theaters are germ infested enough as it is.
@@SpeekofDee maybe you could bring your own and they would stream it to your headset ... Still not good but better than using a theater owned headset
I recently bought the Go. I have a high end gaming pc but I dont want to be tethered to it as I'm often not at home so I'll probably buy this. Great early review as always bud. Many thanks.
You totally should
Hmmm, there seem to be quite a few "issues" that look more like withheld features.
I can see no reason not to allow a plug and play setup to allow people to connect it to their PC. They obviously have the technology to do it.
Nor can I see any reason why they wouldn't place cameras into the head strap to solve the tracking issue, they already have a set of sub-par headphones in there.
Dope shirt 👌
"if you've been waiting to get a pc vr headset, this is definitely the one you should get."
Rtx 2080 setup, def been waiting, which is why I follow u and vr news so intensely. This comment makes me think FB has you bought and paid for. New Vive models? Valve Index? Been a fan for a while, which is why this type of comment concerns me.
For clarification; the Quest may or may not have a dedicated app for streaming your PC to the Quest, but there are apps that can do that for any headset, including the Go. Latency issues could be dependent on your setup, and not the hardware (nic card) of the Quest since the Go manages streaming just fine if kept withing reasonable temps. Walling your user base (segmented) in the adoption phase is not a good idea, but I can understand why they want to do it from a business standpoint, but it does goes against their goal of mass adoption. In the beginning of any new tech, the innovators have to take the initial hit in order to lay down the foundation and attract. Every early software company knows this btw. To me it seems Oculus is stirring into the Apple model. I hope I'm wrong.
"Now this might not be a problem for those that have hair" 5:36
Inr how dose he think we wear vr
Amazon have no stock currently, I wonder if it's popular...duh...
Cant wait for Valve Index VR
At 9:20 damn it, they didn't fix the battery orientation! Unless they have a stronger spring, the battery will still dislodge momentarily during high speed swings in Best Saber. That's a bit of a bummer...
If it can play Pavlov and look ok I’m sold. If not then I’m getting the psvr.
That's like saying you want to be able to pedal your bicycle as fast as the new tesla as long as it can support the weight of your two dogs, and if not, you want your legs cut off so you can crawl around instead.
Reality is, the Quest is already a far better VR kit than the PSVR can ever be. If you really want more and want to stick with Sony, wait for PS5 and the PSVR2. Though it doesn't make sense financially since you can spend close to the same on a PCVR setup (assuming the PS5 and PSVR2 will cost a combined $800-900) and get a far better experience.
Do you happen to know if there will ever be a decent tennis game on either Quest or Go? Thank you!
Definitely Vader Immortal!!!
What if you have a mediocre PC? My pc might be able to handle VR, but if so not well. I could of course upgrade my pc, which is something I have been contemplating anyways to run normal games better. However, in terms of VR specifically, is the benefit of better gameplay and more games and stuff worth the cost of upgrading my PC, or if I don't upgrade my PC and run games at non-optimal settings would that just nullify the benefits? Is the lack of cord with the quest(which sounds awesome) worth the trade-off?
I feel like this headset is a step back for vr
It is inferior in a few ways, but it mainly serves to help normal people get into VR, which will be better in the long run.
Can't get enough of the Quest videos right now, very much looking forward to getting my hands on one. I was intrigued to hear you say you think it'll be unlikely to get custom songs on Beat Saber. I thought the general consensus was that you'll be able to sideload on Quest as easily as you can on Go, so modding for Beat Saber should be possible. Did you learn/hear something on this trip to contradict that?
How many mods for android games have you ever heard of? There programs like lucky patcher that can modify games to remove adverts etc. So there very well could be mods on the quest. It just depends if the people making ye windows mods even have any idea how to do that or can find someone willing to do the work.
Yeah, although it’s likely going to be harder to mod a mobile app. Also remember this is essentially circumventing security to hack the game and will require side loading []-/
The hype train,It's going too fast!we're going to go back in time, back to before oc5. I can't wait that long again!
I'm not hyped for it lol :P.
@@buniboi2163 Thanks for letting us know
@@Jay-vf8ue me neither.
its not enough of an improvement over the go to warrant the extra expense of the quest. They have priced it a little too high in my view, which i guess is normal for a new release..
Agreed. I just got a Go (really late, was led to believe it was just as bad as the Gear) and love it. I was turned off as soon as I heard the price tag. From what I can see, only difference is 6dof
@@grrgoyljones8793 There's a way to mod 6 degrees of freedom onto the Go, search it up on TH-cam you'll probably find a tutorial jn order to do so.
@@bailz6366 I thought about it, but don't games have to support it too?
@@grrgoyljones8793 Sorry man dunno, search up a TH-cam tutorial i'm sure they'll be able to answer that.
Hype is real? I’m glad is out and that helps VR grow.. but hype
Have you not seen the quests hype?
Put a module on the back of the harness that:
1. Holds a larger battery to counterweight the HMD for better balance and life
2. Has 2 more cameras to cover the dead spots
3. Has a VRLink port so you can run it wired from your PC when you want, and detach it for wireless independent when you don't
4. Raises the price to $500 and take my goddamn money
the hype is real because VR IS AMAZING AND GETTING EVEN MORE SO EVERY DAY.
and now wireless and doesn't need a pc, that is kinda a big deal too
You'll be able to wirelessly connect quest to PC via apps like Vridge.
I'm looking forward to using Alvr
I will sell my Oculus Rift and buy me an Oculus Quest, i hate all the cables on the rift and the sensors and i don't want to plug everything in and or out when i want to use VR , so i am happy to see that the quest is good enough for the most things and me ^^
I'm so excited about quest. Not because i will ever buy one, as it does not suit my vr needs, but because of what it could do for vr in terms of making vr its own platform instead of being seen as just an accessory. I believe many people initially though of vr as a gimmick, because it was easy to lump in with Kinect and PSmove seeing as they were optional hardware accessories that were touted to change the way we play games but fell flat due to them being a cheap substitute for vr before the HMD tech was ready.
Oculus Quest, for people who have no other choice. :D Long live the PC Master Race!
You're stuck in 2011.
@wittybush_...The Quest is stuck in 2001. The graphics are no better than those on the PS2.
@@dtz1000 What does that change? Does a game play good? It ages well. Is Doom graphically impressive for today's standards? No, but it plays so well.
@wittybush_...Did you not hear what he said in the video? PCVR will always give a better experience than something with a two and a half year old mobile processor.
@@dtz1000 The moment this takes off. The mass will love it, soon it will rise up to become a much more powerful and cheaper alternative. This is a roadmap you have to look at.
You've grown so much as a channel in the latest months, man. Congrats :)
Who else LITERALLY can’t wait anymore for the quest
Hi I am an Oculus developer and I am very excited to get the Quest to start to develop for this device. Humble, I think that the Quest will create a Massive VR Market. Maybe this one have not the best Quality experience or other tech topic but for its price and because all the people will not have Rift / HTC Vive and Go at the same time so they can not compare which is the best, for it., It is the best option for me.. My dream is the VR for all !!! It will be a great tool for learning !!!!
Hype is dead, valve has won
at 8:48 what is that? it appears to be a button of sort. with a hole? and at 10:12
Wheres the proper rift 2. I wont buy this quest thing.
So the quest can used with the steam store
And the quality and disc space can be better with a good computer?
Thanks for answering
Might be able to unofficially use steam months after release but it would probably suck.
And no it cannot be used as a pcvr headset
Toaster Head ok thanks
I am very excited, I think it is the perfect device for those, like myself, who don't have a pc strong enough to run the rift or the money to purchase said pc. I love robo recall on the rift so can't wait to play that in my own home instead of bugging my buddy to play on the rift. With that said, please for the love of all things, when the hell is the release date? Haha, I know you don't know but man, early spring to me is now.
The tether from rift headset to my PC drove me nuts and ended up returning it. Can't wait for the Quest!
ill be waiting to see Valves potentially less compromised version first.
one of the questions I have is how well does the devise stick to your head? Can you feel it wobble around when you shake your head, does it feel like it's going to fall off or does it fit snug and tight on your head like a headlamp.
Even though I own a Rift I still want one of these! The true deciding factor for me will be a review of Robo Recall running on it. That game probably makes best use of the touch controllers on the Rift, and is quite simply the best touch experience, period. If that game play can be reproduced in the Quest, the lower graphics simply won't matter. It would be worth the entry price alone. It's THAT good!
Great video man! It was awesome to get a first look from someone who knows their stuff.
I'd love something simple to buy along with the quest, maybe like an outside processor with extra storage that you can plug into the headset itself, amping up what games you can play on it. Like a mini gaming PC that fits in your pocket and can simple be connected to the back of the vr, one can dream
i may be getting this for christmas im excited even thought christmas is a while away
Thanks, GREAT VIDEO! I'm super excited to see how games like superhot and space pirate trainer play on the quest, and how they compare to the experience you get on the Vive or rift!
I hope after it’s release they make a better version with a better graphics card
I suspect the reason the show model has the leather face padding and plastic backing is to allow the staff to wipe the headsets with a disinfectant between users
one of the best quest videos yet
Thank you so much for this video! I've been living off scraps of details for the Quest but this video answered it all and then some. This is the first that I've heard of the feature that will allow you to see outside the VR (albeit black and white and grainy, as you specified) without taking the headset off. Really excited for Vader Immortal as well!