This is solely for drip guys. Don't actually use engulfing on Arlecc xd. deathmatch and blackcliff is a good balance though. Arlecchino Genshin Impact #genshin #genshinimpact
The least they could have done is have the aura red or something to match the color theme. But Genshin 100% knows what they're doing, so they made an aura that doesn't match her theme, at all. Freaking eye sore.
i mean if youve seen Ayaka's signature (mitsplitter) or Yoimiyas signature (thundering pulse) they dont fight either character's aesthetic in the slightest
this is probably a test so hoyo could see if having pay to drip would deem more profitable for them than not having it. It probably would be bad for the long run though because the players could get annoyed by not getting the drip every new character that comes out especially with the trash rewards
If u rlly rlly think abt it, this is super contradictory to how we always ask for new skins. If u wanted the weapon purely for the drip, it’s basically like a skin (tho more expensive), and if u wanted it purely for the upgrade then u get a nice drip along with it. Trash rewards have nothing to do with this btw, ik the rewards are bad but it’s like a daily part of genshin player’s vocab now.
And the weapon banner is bad, so if people want to drip with different weapons like scyte (which only works on arlecchino, differently from Navia weapon) they will have to go through this awful banner weapon.
@@dotalbo8279 That's a thing I don't get, if Hoyo values their designs so much and they do because so far not a single skin is worth what they ask for but they ain't budging, how come that the signature weapons don't have a F2P equivalent? I mean ain't the two donuts selling like hot bread all the time? Kazuha weapon must be really unpopular since it doesn't look good on him right? right? The reality is that the drip is a good bonus but most of the people ain't pulling for it if the stats are garbage. People asking for more skins are assuming they would be more reasonable with the prices or make them worth it, there's no way a skin for a support that will be on the field for 3-5 seconds is worth 10-20 dollars.
Big reason I enjoy Honkai Star Rail so much is that everyone has their "signature weapons" by default. The Light Cones purely affect their performance in battle, but their visible weapons will be the same for everyone.
honestly though Star Rail's "weapons" are all cosmetic/for show so i dont count them as signature weapons at all but rather compare it to GenshinMC's perma-Dull Blade as their 'weapon'. HSR's real signature weapon is still the light cones which you DO 'have' to roll for still. Half of the HSR cast dont really have actual weapons to begin with since it has more creative freedom to have characters hit enemies with anything BUT weapons. Himeko and Gepards bags/guitar case, Serval's guitar, Clara literally has no weapon it's Svarog... Bailu literally has a Gourd. Welt a Cane, Qingque has a mahjong set, HuoHuo has... a flag? and a tail spirit thing? ETC ETC. Aventurine literally just has bare hands... technically gambling chips i guess if you consider that. calling THOSE weapons is kinda inaccurate as those are anything BUT actual weapons. plus, HSR's style of gameplay literally makes it so you never even notice or focus on the item they're using to hit enemies, but instead notice the cool whimsical animations instead. so excusing those items as a comparison to genshin having ACTUAL weapons per character is inaccurate. search up HSR weapons on google and literally the light cones are what show up.
This is essentially Genshin's first attempt at copying HSR's LCs, ironically. It's a weapon that makes the character 'complete', and it's key use is useless on anyone else but her, thus obligating anyone who gets Arle to get the weapon and anyone who gets the weapon to get Arle.
i was thinking what would it look like if she doesn't have the signature weapon, i never thought they would be using aura-like on polearm to make a scythe instead an actual scythe.
@@Shreyash112 you say that now, but if they actually gave us NOTHING scythe-like for not having the BiS, the community wouldve been raging and demanding "they could've at least given us a scythe-aura instead of giving us nothing at all!" like, let's be real here. My friends and I were literally happy and RELIEVED that they actually at least put a scythe aura on non-BiS weapons instead of leaving us with nothing. Anything they would've done would just been met with the community being unsatisfied either way. just save up for the actual Scythe and wait for a rerun if it's that important.
@@burnedchicken6644 the animation of the scythe stabbing the ground and arle dragging it around and back up would've looked weirder without the aura though. imagine a straight ass spear looking like the air beside it got lodged into the ground? that'd be even worse.
I am disappointed to see that so many people try to defend this or make it out to be not a problem. There is a difference in a barely visible standard looking scythe lazily placed on the tip of the weapon vs a costume made specific design for SSR weapon. As if the character skins weren’t greedy enough already
Same like how peoples are supporting this? And the thing I fear is that more characters will be like this in future since most genshjn players are happy about this change
Bro I got so lucky on that banner. I never pull weapons, but I thought I might as well bc the weapon seems so strong. I pull and at around 70 pulls, I "lose" the 75/25 and get a weapon that's not on the banner. Out of all the ass weapons I could've gotten, I got Primordial Jade-Winged Spear. The chance of that is so low, but I'm glad. I like Arlecchino, but I like my Xiao a bit more.
it will be different in other Hoyoverse future games. The signature weap will change the animation of the character. It will be the FPS gacha game in 2030. Hoyoverse is trying to make a shooting game just like Snowbreak: containment zone
Arlecchino colors are white, black and red. So if the scythe effect in the non signature polearms were red it would be better. Having this signature weapon that looks as a scythe is cool, but the way it's inplemented is problematic because: 1. The scyte appearance only works when it's on Arlecchino (which is totally different from Navia "claymore" for example, that looks the same for all chars) 2. The non signature version is not good, it glows yellow which doesn't match Arlecchino at all, it would be better as red color to use with Homa, Blackcliff or Deathmatch (examples that fit her color scheme). 3. The weapon banner is bad asf, so if people wanna get this weapon they will have to go through suffering, especially light spenders of f2p. I don't like the direction of this at all, I dont see how this is good when they could just make it like Navia's weapon, and give red color for the non signature polearms on Arlecchino's hands.
Then there's also the thing where other polearm characters will look really weird using the scythe. Their attacks wouldn't make sense, coz scythes involve a lot of slashing, and spears are more stabbing and different kind of slashes. Spears and scythes are not used the same way. Unlike an axe, where normal claymores and axes can be used similarly in combat
@@Jalebi-tf3ln it makes sense, thanks for the insight. So at least the non signature part would be good to be red glow, idk if they will change it, probably not. But I dont think I'll get her cuz don't have enough pulls
@@Gheniel_ The Scythe only working on Arle makes sense cause the Scythe is something she manifests from her own power. the weapon itself is still a spear, not a scythe. so it's just right that no other polearm can access the scythe. and honestly the red glow would still be weird or look bad depending on what non-sig weapon you use. I would've hated the red aura since I used the jade spear on her. the yellowish-white i think is fine tbh. it's better than not having anything at all unless you get the sig. Navia's weapon is different because the weapon being an Axe isnt tied down to any lore. it's just a new weapon look for weapon's sake. the Scythe is HEAVILY tied down to Arle's lore regarding the Crimson Moon Dynasty, something VERY NEW AND BIG. so her weapon being a big deal is honestly JUST RIGHT and lore accurate.
The fire archon most likely will fall under the support role, like every other single archon so far. One of the best supports, sure, but a completely different role from DPS.
@@bloddrinkeraka For one she's technically not an archon, and secondly she is still a support. She is specifically designed to have her party build fanfare stacks, and they get a damage buff the more stacks they have. Aside from that, one of her variations is literally just a healer, while the other is a sub DPS.
yeah, raiden’s sword for 7 seconds per rotation sure is the exact same as a permanent scythe on arlecchino (that you can’t even see while her bond of life is active)
It would look even worse, the green primordial jade spear with the scythe part, green, red and black, plus the texture flickering since they would be overlapping..
@@justsomemaninachickencostu9643or just have a scythe effect????? Ayato, Itto, Childe, Raiden, Wanderer, Hu Tao, Yunjin??? All special effects and no weird or ugly effect for non signature?
I got some insane luck and got her and her weapon in 60 pulls. I still can't believe it so every time I say it I get worried that I might loose it somehow💀
Honestly i would have expected them to do this sooner The fact its taken them this long is quite surprising But we can definitely expect to see more weapons that are not of the generic 5 weapon types in the future
Dragon's Bane also works just fine. I have it on my Arlecchino and she looks stylin' with it, and hell even the odd holographic scythe blade kinda matches the swirling dragon around the speartip as well as the gold on her heels. I'm content and willing to wait for her rerun to get her signature.
If you focus on the dark pyro effects she has when her infusion is active then you can almost ignore the mismatched drip when using stuff like primordial jade spear.
Well, since that HYV would not include a new weapon type for playable characters, I guess that an exclusive skin change for specific characters equipped with their signature weapon is in order. I've seen this in lots of RPG gacha games and I approved of this tactic. More revenue from player pulls of each 5* character and weapon banner will increase.
tbh I like the non signature weapons better, I think it’s cool that she magically enhances her weapons with the phantom scythe instead of using a real one.
They could just add her (not ugly) Scythe effect to her E like Childe (E) , Cyno (Q) or Raiden (Q). Instead, they locked it behind extremely expensive and scammy weapon banner. Hoyo become too greedy, they already got all the money in the market (2.3 billion USD NET PROFIT in 2023 to be exact, almost all from Genshin) but still push for even more profit using cheap trick while not improving game as much. At this point I just wait for Azur Promilia, and will surely try Wuthering Wave. At least look like Azur Promilia creator have better reputation as less greedy company.
Devs: could've just locked the scythe effect behind the signature weapon, but gave the scythe effect to every polearm instead to please the community The community: BOO-HOOO-HOOO, I WANTED THE F2P SCYTHE TO BE REEEED, GREEDY BUSTERDS, BOO-HOO-HOOO
You may have a point behind the Scythe effect but other than that all of what you said is absolute Mongolian brain works. Instead of blaming a company you should understand hierarchy, because in every company and every agency such thing exists. What happens in games is the decision of the PRODUCER, not the CEO, not the co founder. The producer has the UTMOST authority over the game's development. Instead of pointing your finger at the company, you can point it at the CEO (who is also the producer of Genshin Impact), because he is the one that makes these decisions for Genshin. So please, before you make a retard of yourself at least do the basic research on things.
I did something I don't normally do, and pulled for her weapon. This was the first time I've done this. There was no real good FTP alternative, and I had plenty of primos and starglitter saved up, so I figured I'd get it. I'm not happy that I had to do it. Not because the weapon is garbage, but because Arlecchino is so unfriendly towards free-to-play users, since there isn't many weapons that work in tandem with her. If there was just one craftable 4* weapon that gave either ATK or Crit Rate/DMG substats I wouldn't have gotten her weapon.
it started with characters whose kit says "can only be used with the following characters", or with signature 5 star weapons saying "full potential only unlocked by the following limited 5 star character"
It'd be cool if hoyo gives the option to change a weapon's color palette to follow the character's. Quite the rework but the drip possibilities might give more incentive to pull weapon banner
Honestly, the R5 white tassle looks great with the gold scythe effect. And fits with it better than most of the weapons listed here for going with the white elements of her design rather than red. That being said, I am immediately saving up for her weapon when it comes again.
For real, this shit normal for us. If you wanna look cool make sure you pay up otherwise if you are in a co op people will know you dont have the sig wep
I understand where some people's frustration comes from. But to me this is actually better: she grows a scythe out of whatever polearm she's holding feels sick af, especially considering that scythe is a somewhat detailed hologram of her signature weapon, not just a random blade. I consider this a much better choice than if she just performs slashing attacks with a spear like what Raiden does. If I have to complain about something, then it will be "making the hologram red"
No they should stick to what they used to do and add the scythe in her attack sequence just like every other character that has a weapon unique to tge character
@@FaithfulxFate So you basically want the polearm she is actually equipped with to never show up since the scythe would be part of her attack sequence? So then what would be the point of her signature polearm having its own design? Genuine question, even Yae miko has her weapon show up even though she uses that shrine stick.
@@13-bit-kitten you're just saying my point, she's just like every pyro dps but done better instead of being done differently by having more of a unique kit than others. Again, zero uniqueness and pure eye candy
@@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee Do you even play the game ? At the moment, she is the only character which utilizes Bond of Life mechanic, at the same time, she can't be healed, only she can heal herself, there are NO other characters like that. Do you even know what "unique" word means ? Because of what I just told, she seems clear definition of it.
Wow, a character has a unique effect even if you don’t get the signature weapon, I wonder how the fans will react! the fans in question: (But in all seriousness just be happy there’s a cool new thing and leave it)
I'm happy to see you enjoy being walked all over by greedy companies that only care about your wallet, but no one asked to be put in the same basket as you. keep me updated of when you've grown a backbone, but in the meantime please let us criticize the issues of this scammy system that is clearly only gonna get worse.
My f2p friend actually pulled for her weapon, and it cost her only 40 fates too, bruh 😭 (40 includes pulls for Arlecchino as well) I was so sad because I'm f2p too but my luck becomes terrible each year (back in the days, I got Ayaka on pity 23 and got my first 5 star on the 3rd day of joining genshin.. Good old days..)
I was pulling for weapon banner, I was like it’s okay to lose to Lyney’s weapon because I have Tighnari, then I lost to Skyward spine… last neuv/kazuha banner I also pulled for the weapon banner and I was confident to pull for the weapon banner because I have them both but lost to aquila favonia… imagine losing 66/33 2-in-a row 😔
Hu Tao: + a girl -of legal age- + pyro + polearm user + doesn't require a signature weapon to look cute + is technically an angel + yahoooooo! - not the best to play without C1 or Zhongli Arlecchino: + a woman + pyro + polearm user - looks like my principal - evil - traumatized Furina - requires a signature weapon to look cool - scares Furina - is my enemy - apologize to Furina now 'nuff said
This should have been like this from the beginning, they are signarure weapons after all. I prefer this over the old weapons with the same theme between them. Like Cyno, Nilou and Dehya sharing the same weapon with a different grip.
I don't think they will do this again except for extremely special characters. I don't want to bring about leak talk but the next 2 characters aren't visually tied to their weapons.
The drip creep in fontaine has been real. Furina got super close to a rapier. Navia brought the axe, ArleQueeno brought the scythe, and one of next 2 chars goes full rapier. So I think this will continue tho maybe not so ingrained as Arlequeeno is
@@sQrLLZI hope not, I'm a whale and this direction is gross, if the Devs continue this then I'm out and never spending a dime again Gone are the days where we had Childe, Ayato, Raiden, Itto, Cyno, Hutao etc where they have special effect without needing their signature
It's just disappointing seeing her using that scythe in her trial only for her actual weapon to be a boring glowey transparent blade. I'm glad I saw it before getting her, cause I would've actually gotten angry at seeing that while expecting her actual weapon.
@@nobody-xh6ii I'm upset over how awesome her actual scythe blade looks, but without her signature weapon it's just a lame glow. So anyone who can't get her signature weapon is stuck with that garbage.
On one hand, I don't like how out of place the aura looks. But on the other hand, the signature weapon goes a bit above and beyond what we'd typically get. I hope in the future, they continue to give signature weapons special treatment for their respective characters but don't end up compromising the aesthetics of the base character for it. If they manage to hit that balance, that'd be the best outcome.
Ngl this woudnt irritate the community if the weapon banner is just like starrail lc banner 75/25 and pity carries over it would make more ppl summon for sigs of character imo
“or just whale” me, who got arle and her sig within the first 10 pulls on each banner (i did the same for tighnari and his sig when he first came out) (i made a deal with hoyo)
Yeah. I went for the last option. I got lyney's weapon and arlecchino in just 50 pulls(two fates) meanwhile o arlecchino's banner just 10 pulls. But fk my luck in hsr went sht. I lost 50/50 on jingliu and had to do 140 pulls. For her light Cone 46 pulls.
I knew i will whale or her since first meeting in Fountaine... I had over 170 wish ready.... Now i gather again.... For Pyro Archon. I expect at least 4 banners possibly even 5 before we can get her. So i have time.
i got lucky and got her signature weapon on my first 10 pull. I was actually hoping for the featured 4stars on the banner cuz I have most of those at refinement 4 lol
The least they could have done is have the aura red or something to match the color theme.
But Genshin 100% knows what they're doing, so they made an aura that doesn't match her theme, at all. Freaking eye sore.
Or they'll just release outfit that match the aura.
@@clashcon11listen here pal, it's hoyo we talk about they sure finds a way to let us down. it's already written in history. no need for copium
@@clashcon11a skin to match the yellow aura, but not the sig weapon as well? What are you, crazy?
i mean if youve seen Ayaka's signature (mitsplitter) or Yoimiyas signature (thundering pulse) they dont fight either character's aesthetic in the slightest
I mean when you have bond of life, then you have that red aura so that's cool.
this is probably a test so hoyo could see if having pay to drip would deem more profitable for them than not having it. It probably would be bad for the long run though because the players could get annoyed by not getting the drip every new character that comes out especially with the trash rewards
If u rlly rlly think abt it, this is super contradictory to how we always ask for new skins. If u wanted the weapon purely for the drip, it’s basically like a skin (tho more expensive), and if u wanted it purely for the upgrade then u get a nice drip along with it.
Trash rewards have nothing to do with this btw, ik the rewards are bad but it’s like a daily part of genshin player’s vocab now.
Skins are 100% profitable they're just too dumb to realize that because they don't even play their own game.
And the weapon banner is bad, so if people want to drip with different weapons like scyte (which only works on arlecchino, differently from Navia weapon) they will have to go through this awful banner weapon.
Of course, but if they do that once or twice every expac people are not gonna make too much of a fuzz about it
@@dotalbo8279 That's a thing I don't get, if Hoyo values their designs so much and they do because so far not a single skin is worth what they ask for but they ain't budging, how come that the signature weapons don't have a F2P equivalent?
I mean ain't the two donuts selling like hot bread all the time? Kazuha weapon must be really unpopular since it doesn't look good on him right? right?
The reality is that the drip is a good bonus but most of the people ain't pulling for it if the stats are garbage.
People asking for more skins are assuming they would be more reasonable with the prices or make them worth it, there's no way a skin for a support that will be on the field for 3-5 seconds is worth 10-20 dollars.
Big reason I enjoy Honkai Star Rail so much is that everyone has their "signature weapons" by default. The Light Cones purely affect their performance in battle, but their visible weapons will be the same for everyone.
honestly though Star Rail's "weapons" are all cosmetic/for show so i dont count them as signature weapons at all but rather compare it to GenshinMC's perma-Dull Blade as their 'weapon'. HSR's real signature weapon is still the light cones which you DO 'have' to roll for still. Half of the HSR cast dont really have actual weapons to begin with since it has more creative freedom to have characters hit enemies with anything BUT weapons. Himeko and Gepards bags/guitar case, Serval's guitar, Clara literally has no weapon it's Svarog... Bailu literally has a Gourd. Welt a Cane, Qingque has a mahjong set, HuoHuo has... a flag? and a tail spirit thing? ETC ETC. Aventurine literally just has bare hands... technically gambling chips i guess if you consider that.
calling THOSE weapons is kinda inaccurate as those are anything BUT actual weapons. plus, HSR's style of gameplay literally makes it so you never even notice or focus on the item they're using to hit enemies, but instead notice the cool whimsical animations instead.
so excusing those items as a comparison to genshin having ACTUAL weapons per character is inaccurate. search up HSR weapons on google and literally the light cones are what show up.
It also the reason why i dont like that as well. You roll for jpeg that affect stats but i cant think of better ways.
This is essentially Genshin's first attempt at copying HSR's LCs, ironically. It's a weapon that makes the character 'complete', and it's key use is useless on anyone else but her, thus obligating anyone who gets Arle to get the weapon and anyone who gets the weapon to get Arle.
And the light cones are dope too
@@ibrahim5463I love the arts on them
sad to say i went with the last option
Not sad to say i got both her and her weapon in 100 pulls, while being f2p 😅
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@@alexeystarkov7504 congrats. >:( happy or you >:( nice >:(
@@alexeystarkov7504 congrats ! Sometimes the gacha blessings sometimes curse .
Another accurate line : sometimes maybe good , sometimes maybe shit
@@alexeystarkov7504 congrats 🤬
Happy for you 🤬
i was thinking what would it look like if she doesn't have the signature weapon, i never thought they would be using aura-like on polearm to make a scythe instead an actual scythe.
It would have been batter if they didnt apply that aura on non sig weapons, the aura looks intentional cheap design
@@Shreyash112yea fr just like dont be there im fine w no scythe animation looks weird anyway for a scythe
@@Shreyash112 you say that now, but if they actually gave us NOTHING scythe-like for not having the BiS, the community wouldve been raging and demanding "they could've at least given us a scythe-aura instead of giving us nothing at all!" like, let's be real here. My friends and I were literally happy and RELIEVED that they actually at least put a scythe aura on non-BiS weapons instead of leaving us with nothing.
Anything they would've done would just been met with the community being unsatisfied either way. just save up for the actual Scythe and wait for a rerun if it's that important.
@@burnedchicken6644 the animation of the scythe stabbing the ground and arle dragging it around and back up would've looked weirder without the aura though. imagine a straight ass spear looking like the air beside it got lodged into the ground? that'd be even worse.
@@marymint9702Still the outline is mad annoying. Arlecchino feels so incomplete without her weapon
staff of homo looks pretty good on her too but im conflicted because that was my zhonglis weapon lmao
"Staff of Homo" 💀
ur zl is a dps?
The staff of WHAT
Same
Hold up
I am disappointed to see that so many people try to defend this or make it out to be not a problem. There is a difference in a barely visible standard looking scythe lazily placed on the tip of the weapon vs a costume made specific design for SSR weapon. As if the character skins weren’t greedy enough already
Same like how peoples are supporting this? And the thing I fear is that more characters will be like this in future since most genshjn players are happy about this change
Do I like how they did it? No, but I don't really care since the alternative is good enough for me
Quit being surprised, shin has always been defended for nonsense.
@@encrypted0547 i can also see many new characters getting the same treatment now
@@theeternalmelon1241 i am not surprised in the slightest tbh. Genshin fans o ly start to criticize when it’s about free pulls
I go with the last option and I get the bow, wasting 110 wishes
100 wishes, 20 went to bow (thankfully early 😭) then other 80 to her sig so I’m happy
Bro I got so lucky on that banner. I never pull weapons, but I thought I might as well bc the weapon seems so strong. I pull and at around 70 pulls, I "lose" the 75/25 and get a weapon that's not on the banner. Out of all the ass weapons I could've gotten, I got Primordial Jade-Winged Spear. The chance of that is so low, but I'm glad. I like Arlecchino, but I like my Xiao a bit more.
@@echonox31 I also got lucky, 170 pulls got me Diluc, Arlecchino, Lyney's signature weapon, skyward atlas and arlecchino's signature weapon
i spent 150 so far, two bows and 40 in 3rd
Signature weapons are special for a reason, now they just gonna be a little bit cooler than before, not much difference.
uhhh, im pretty sure no other signature weapon has a giant custom scythe
Yea when compare to HI3 signature weapons genshin are more flexible.
@@BlueHawkPictures17that's literally what they're talking about "a little bit cooler than before". What are you having trouble understanding?
it will be different in other Hoyoverse future games. The signature weap will change the animation of the character. It will be the FPS gacha game in 2030. Hoyoverse is trying to make a shooting game just like Snowbreak: containment zone
@@snowparody I understand, I just think its quite a bit of a difference 😅
Arlecchino colors are white, black and red. So if the scythe effect in the non signature polearms were red it would be better.
Having this signature weapon that looks as a scythe is cool, but the way it's inplemented is problematic because:
1. The scyte appearance only works when it's on Arlecchino (which is totally different from Navia "claymore" for example, that looks the same for all chars)
2. The non signature version is not good, it glows yellow which doesn't match Arlecchino at all, it would be better as red color to use with Homa, Blackcliff or Deathmatch (examples that fit her color scheme).
3. The weapon banner is bad asf, so if people wanna get this weapon they will have to go through suffering, especially light spenders of f2p.
I don't like the direction of this at all, I dont see how this is good when they could just make it like Navia's weapon, and give red color for the non signature polearms on Arlecchino's hands.
Then there's also the thing where other polearm characters will look really weird using the scythe. Their attacks wouldn't make sense, coz scythes involve a lot of slashing, and spears are more stabbing and different kind of slashes. Spears and scythes are not used the same way. Unlike an axe, where normal claymores and axes can be used similarly in combat
@@Jalebi-tf3ln it makes sense, thanks for the insight. So at least the non signature part would be good to be red glow, idk if they will change it, probably not. But I dont think I'll get her cuz don't have enough pulls
@@Gheniel_ The Scythe only working on Arle makes sense cause the Scythe is something she manifests from her own power. the weapon itself is still a spear, not a scythe. so it's just right that no other polearm can access the scythe.
and honestly the red glow would still be weird or look bad depending on what non-sig weapon you use. I would've hated the red aura since I used the jade spear on her. the yellowish-white i think is fine tbh. it's better than not having anything at all unless you get the sig. Navia's weapon is different because the weapon being an Axe isnt tied down to any lore. it's just a new weapon look for weapon's sake.
the Scythe is HEAVILY tied down to Arle's lore regarding the Crimson Moon Dynasty, something VERY NEW AND BIG. so her weapon being a big deal is honestly JUST RIGHT and lore accurate.
@@marymint9702 I hope that was the only time they do that, if they're gonna do it again then be like navia's axe.
@@Gheniel_Thank you, at least someone can think in this community, this direction is regressing
meanwhile my Rosaria with Arlecchino's weapon 🌝
I remember pulling for Arle's weapon and I got Rosaria along with the weapon 😂 It's as if Rosaria wants to use it.
@@ElyonFabre Yes, I got her last constellation while pulling the weapon too haha
blacc cliff is the best
This is the main reason I’m skipping both her weapon and character banner. I’m saving for the real pyro monster anyway(archon herself)
The fire archon most likely will fall under the support role, like every other single archon so far.
One of the best supports, sure, but a completely different role from DPS.
@@GrandAngel8000Or more likely, a sub DPS that straight up deals more dmg than other DPS while also supporting
@@GrandAngel8000yeah bro furina is just a support 🤡🤡
@@bloddrinkeraka For one she's technically not an archon, and secondly she is still a support. She is specifically designed to have her party build fanfare stacks, and they get a damage buff the more stacks they have. Aside from that, one of her variations is literally just a healer, while the other is a sub DPS.
@@bloddrinkeraka Lil bro what do you think she is? 😂 Sub DPS are still supports
I'm STILL PISSED ABOUT THIS 💔💔💔💔💔
Just whale lol
Ayato, Childe, Raiden, Hu Tao, Wanderer, Cyno, Itto... All have special effects that work with any weapon and don't make non-signatures look bad..
yeah, raiden’s sword for 7 seconds per rotation sure is the exact same as a permanent scythe on arlecchino (that you can’t even see while her bond of life is active)
Her sig weapon is one of the reason I won't pull for her, I just can't afford two gold for one drip.
drip powercreep is real
If only they could stick the red scythe ornament on all weapons...
It would look even worse, the green primordial jade spear with the scythe part, green, red and black, plus the texture flickering since they would be overlapping..
@@justsomemaninachickencostu9643or just have a scythe effect????? Ayato, Itto, Childe, Raiden, Wanderer, Hu Tao, Yunjin??? All special effects and no weird or ugly effect for non signature?
I got some insane luck and got her and her weapon in 60 pulls. I still can't believe it so every time I say it I get worried that I might loose it somehow💀
Honestly i would have expected them to do this sooner
The fact its taken them this long is quite surprising
But we can definitely expect to see more weapons that are not of the generic 5 weapon types in the future
Dragon's Bane also works just fine. I have it on my Arlecchino and she looks stylin' with it, and hell even the odd holographic scythe blade kinda matches the swirling dragon around the speartip as well as the gold on her heels. I'm content and willing to wait for her rerun to get her signature.
It's just Visuals, actually when i get her, she's one of my Main Dps now 😅 and she's great af 🎉
If you focus on the dark pyro effects she has when her infusion is active then you can almost ignore the mismatched drip when using stuff like primordial jade spear.
Well, since that HYV would not include a new weapon type for playable characters, I guess that an exclusive skin change for specific characters equipped with their signature weapon is in order. I've seen this in lots of RPG gacha games and I approved of this tactic. More revenue from player pulls of each 5* character and weapon banner will increase.
tbh I like the non signature weapons better, I think it’s cool that she magically enhances her weapons with the phantom scythe instead of using a real one.
They could just add her (not ugly) Scythe effect to her E like Childe (E) , Cyno (Q) or Raiden (Q). Instead, they locked it behind extremely expensive and scammy weapon banner.
Hoyo become too greedy, they already got all the money in the market (2.3 billion USD NET PROFIT in 2023 to be exact, almost all from Genshin) but still push for even more profit using cheap trick while not improving game as much.
At this point I just wait for Azur Promilia, and will surely try Wuthering Wave. At least look like Azur Promilia creator have better reputation as less greedy company.
Devs: could've just locked the scythe effect behind the signature weapon, but gave the scythe effect to every polearm instead to please the community
The community: BOO-HOOO-HOOO, I WANTED THE F2P SCYTHE TO BE REEEED, GREEDY BUSTERDS, BOO-HOO-HOOO
@@hrizaurg2610Gross, NONE of the other characters have this, they all have special effects REGARDLESS
Imagine defending a billion dollar company 😂
You may have a point behind the Scythe effect but other than that all of what you said is absolute Mongolian brain works. Instead of blaming a company you should understand hierarchy, because in every company and every agency such thing exists. What happens in games is the decision of the PRODUCER, not the CEO, not the co founder. The producer has the UTMOST authority over the game's development. Instead of pointing your finger at the company, you can point it at the CEO (who is also the producer of Genshin Impact), because he is the one that makes these decisions for Genshin. So please, before you make a retard of yourself at least do the basic research on things.
they always been greedy
I hope harbingers are the only ones like this
Childe and Wanderer... Looks good with any weapon, no weird or ugly effect on non-signatures...
I did something I don't normally do, and pulled for her weapon. This was the first time I've done this.
There was no real good FTP alternative, and I had plenty of primos and starglitter saved up, so I figured I'd get it.
I'm not happy that I had to do it. Not because the weapon is garbage, but because Arlecchino is so unfriendly towards free-to-play users, since there isn't many weapons that work in tandem with her.
If there was just one craftable 4* weapon that gave either ATK or Crit Rate/DMG substats I wouldn't have gotten her weapon.
Just, like, get both. Get it early every time.
Fr tho, it’s a little rough. Also Hoyo making the 1st constellation so good is another danger.
it started with characters whose kit says "can only be used with the following characters", or with signature 5 star weapons saying "full potential only unlocked by the following limited 5 star character"
I really hope it's an exception because they made me pull for the weapon banner for the first time
It'd be cool if hoyo gives the option to change a weapon's color palette to follow the character's. Quite the rework but the drip possibilities might give more incentive to pull weapon banner
Her weapon is the reason why I’m not getting her.I’ll get her when I have enough for her and the weapon
Honestly, the R5 white tassle looks great with the gold scythe effect. And fits with it better than most of the weapons listed here for going with the white elements of her design rather than red. That being said, I am immediately saving up for her weapon when it comes again.
Deathmatch looks pog
bro im over here just equipping her with the cyno bp polearm lmao
honkai star rail eating so good its not fair
i won 50/50 on her weapon in 30 pity, god of rng is on my side.
as HI3 player: ah yes...... Signature Weapons......
For real, this shit normal for us. If you wanna look cool make sure you pay up otherwise if you are in a co op people will know you dont have the sig wep
I understand where some people's frustration comes from. But to me this is actually better: she grows a scythe out of whatever polearm she's holding feels sick af, especially considering that scythe is a somewhat detailed hologram of her signature weapon, not just a random blade. I consider this a much better choice than if she just performs slashing attacks with a spear like what Raiden does. If I have to complain about something, then it will be "making the hologram red"
yeah, the color is the only bad thing about it imo
I wish the yellow meant she was pneuma aligned.
I think it looks cool in the white Tassel
No they should stick to what they used to do and add the scythe in her attack sequence just like every other character that has a weapon unique to tge character
@@FaithfulxFate So you basically want the polearm she is actually equipped with to never show up since the scythe would be part of her attack sequence? So then what would be the point of her signature polearm having its own design? Genuine question, even Yae miko has her weapon show up even though she uses that shrine stick.
as an f2p who got her and her weapon early
and i took that personally
And Y'all hype for her so much... All i see in her is pure eye candy
Ok meta slave
So.... You didn't see this from far away??? LOOK AT HOW MANY VIDEOS THAT HOYO DROP JUST FOR THIS SINGLE CHARACTER.
and 35k minimum damage on lvl 70 from normal attacks with crappy artifacts and White Tassel.
@@13-bit-kitten you're just saying my point, she's just like every pyro dps but done better instead of being done differently by having more of a unique kit than others. Again, zero uniqueness and pure eye candy
@@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee Do you even play the game ? At the moment, she is the only character which utilizes Bond of Life mechanic, at the same time, she can't be healed, only she can heal herself, there are NO other characters like that.
Do you even know what "unique" word means ? Because of what I just told, she seems clear definition of it.
Very lucky I saved 220 pulls for her. Managed to get the weapon thankfully
I learned this today when I finally got her at 80 pity.
I got both her and her weapon by saving for months, so I'm happy.
I gotta say, Wuthering Waves is just around the corner...
This was reason I did not pull her that effect should not be tied to her weapon. Now I just wait other gigachad fatui to appear
it is a double edged sword in my opinion, i was going to poll for her but when I know about the weapon I skipped her
Next update: sigewinne will only use a gun if you get her signature, if not it'll be a toy
No she throws pills and bounces bubbles and has a speaker phone that she yells in lmao she's goofy the leaks are out
@@mrJones-ii7sh Thanks for spoiling it to me dickhead.
when i pull for 5 star i always pull for signature as well. Nothing changes for me.
After this I'm no longer wishing for Arlecchino, I'll be saving for Clorinde now. 😅
Wow, a character has a unique effect even if you don’t get the signature weapon, I wonder how the fans will react!
the fans in question:
(But in all seriousness just be happy there’s a cool new thing and leave it)
I'm happy to see you enjoy being walked all over by greedy companies that only care about your wallet, but no one asked to be put in the same basket as you. keep me updated of when you've grown a backbone, but in the meantime please let us criticize the issues of this scammy system that is clearly only gonna get worse.
This is one of the reason why I skipped father. I don't have enough to get her weapon.
In honkai impact the signature often changes the whole ability of the character 😂
I would've been fine if they use a darker theme on it instead of the light scythe.
My f2p friend actually pulled for her weapon, and it cost her only 40 fates too, bruh 😭 (40 includes pulls for Arlecchino as well) I was so sad because I'm f2p too but my luck becomes terrible each year (back in the days, I got Ayaka on pity 23 and got my first 5 star on the 3rd day of joining genshin.. Good old days..)
This is gonna be a rare occasion for characters that use something like 2 swords or a scythe. Its not gonna he common
im down bad for a character that have my 3 fav color (red white black)
and a scythe?!! DAMN that just made arlecchino even more edgy and I LOVE IT
Idk, I won the 50/50 in both her, and her weapon's banner. It was even early.
I was pulling for weapon banner, I was like it’s okay to lose to Lyney’s weapon because I have Tighnari, then I lost to Skyward spine… last neuv/kazuha banner I also pulled for the weapon banner and I was confident to pull for the weapon banner because I have them both but lost to aquila favonia… imagine losing 66/33 2-in-a row 😔
I use white tassel works just as great with the white and red accents
fun fact i did one ten pull on their weapon banner and i got 2 of her signature weapon :) i was shocked
Good thing my staff of homa still exist 😂
Hu Tao:
+ a girl -of legal age-
+ pyro
+ polearm user
+ doesn't require a signature weapon to look cute
+ is technically an angel
+ yahoooooo!
- not the best to play without C1 or Zhongli
Arlecchino:
+ a woman
+ pyro
+ polearm user
- looks like my principal
- evil
- traumatized Furina
- requires a signature weapon to look cool
- scares Furina
- is my enemy
- apologize to Furina now
'nuff said
What in the world
Saving up for 4 months as f2p for her and her scythe was worth it
Blackcliff one looks like small scythe
Me with my White Tassel: 👁👄👁
i'm not a whale, but i've saved since 4.1. I got everything in this phase, c3 arle, lyney, and both of their sign
I want her for the specific reason of she has a scythe my favorite weapon ever
I was mad lucky and won her and weapon's 50/50 lmao.
So, I accidentally got her signature weapon when I half-heartedly wished on the weapon banner for a reason I’m not yet sure of, haha.
This should have been like this from the beginning, they are signarure weapons after all. I prefer this over the old weapons with the same theme between them. Like Cyno, Nilou and Dehya sharing the same weapon with a different grip.
I got Arlecchino, her weapon, Lyney, his weapon. All with just 100 wishes. 😊
Bro i didnt even notice it haha i guess it doesnt bother me that much
I don't think they will do this again except for extremely special characters. I don't want to bring about leak talk but the next 2 characters aren't visually tied to their weapons.
The drip creep in fontaine has been real. Furina got super close to a rapier. Navia brought the axe, ArleQueeno brought the scythe, and one of next 2 chars goes full rapier. So I think this will continue tho maybe not so ingrained as Arlequeeno is
@@sQrLLZI hope not, I'm a whale and this direction is gross, if the Devs continue this then I'm out and never spending a dime again
Gone are the days where we had Childe, Ayato, Raiden, Itto, Cyno, Hutao etc where they have special effect without needing their signature
Man i got great magic but i did take dis into consideration so ill go for lenny or ganyu depending
They need to allow to save pity on weapon banner. I lost count how many times I lost to weapon banner 😂
Weapon is getting more niches.
We have this in HSR and I was a Genshin whale but stuff like this makes me wanna quit the game for good
I did a random 10-pull on the weapon banner hoping to get the two fontaine 4-star weapons, goal set to Lyney's bow...and got the spear. Gods, why?
good thing I haven't pulled since 2.4. I had enough for both her and the weapon
It's just disappointing seeing her using that scythe in her trial only for her actual weapon to be a boring glowey transparent blade.
I'm glad I saw it before getting her, cause I would've actually gotten angry at seeing that while expecting her actual weapon.
Huh? This makes no sense. You are mad that the scythe is hers or the fact the glow effect is a thing on the polearms that aren't her signature?
@@nobody-xh6ii I'm upset over how awesome her actual scythe blade looks, but without her signature weapon it's just a lame glow. So anyone who can't get her signature weapon is stuck with that garbage.
Got both Arle & Crimson Moon's Semblance within my first 20 pulls, not a Mora outta my pockets; pure luck baybyyyyyyy!!!
On one hand, I don't like how out of place the aura looks.
But on the other hand, the signature weapon goes a bit above and beyond what we'd typically get.
I hope in the future, they continue to give signature weapons special treatment for their respective characters but don't end up compromising the aesthetics of the base character for it. If they manage to hit that balance, that'd be the best outcome.
love the bgm! can i get name of this?
Make the aura red atleast when in pyro infusion might be better than nothing
Ngl this woudnt irritate the community if the weapon banner is just like starrail lc banner 75/25 and pity carries over it would make more ppl summon for sigs of character imo
“or just whale”
me, who got arle and her sig within the first 10 pulls on each banner (i did the same for tighnari and his sig when he first came out) (i made a deal with hoyo)
Honestly I'm too broke to care, just roll with what i have
The effect of her pyro attacks is also very cool
Yeah. I went for the last option. I got lyney's weapon and arlecchino in just 50 pulls(two fates) meanwhile o arlecchino's banner just 10 pulls. But fk my luck in hsr went sht. I lost 50/50 on jingliu and had to do 140 pulls. For her light Cone 46 pulls.
I got the crimson moon's semblance after 40 wishes as an f2p player tho, so i got lucky it seems.
Me: Saved since 4.0 because I heard leaks of her coming out this version lmao.
Dawei trying to kill his own game.
It's the director or manager
I got the signature scythe for her (i'm f2p), but I'm still using staff of homo cause I have to fully rebuild her to use the scythe
I knew i will whale or her since first meeting in Fountaine...
I had over 170 wish ready....
Now i gather again.... For Pyro Archon.
I expect at least 4 banners possibly even 5 before we can get her. So i have time.
genshin could've just have a system like lightcones, max drip, stat depends on the weapon (like HI3rd)
They could of NOT made the weapon aura reminiscent of the PissSeelie.💀
At least we got some form of scythe instead of nothing when using any other polearm. Hoyoverse could've easily left that out
i got lucky and got her signature weapon on my first 10 pull. I was actually hoping for the featured 4stars on the banner cuz I have most of those at refinement 4 lol
I got Diluc, Arlecchino, Lyney's signature weapon, skyward atlas and arlecchino's signature weapon with 170 pulls, f2p
My broke ahh could never 💀
I was going to get different colors with each weapon
NAH CUS WHEN THE VIDEO ENDED I GOT RECOMENDED A VIDEO SAYING "I BECAME A WHALE.." 😭😭😭