Get Started With Looper Pedals For Guitar [Basic Operation, Signal Chain] - That Pedal Show

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  • New to looper pedals? We talk about their basic functionality, problems with timing and rhythm, position in the signal chain and dip a toe into more creative applications.
    Life too short for long TH-cam videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
    Welcome! In this episode, Dan and I take a newbie’s approach to looping. We are not experts in this, so we walk through their basic functionality and address some questions you may have surrounding timing and signal chain positioning. We also introduce the concept of adding rhythm loops via a slightly more complex pedal.
    Please note this isn’t a looping masterclass, or how to create those amazing multi-layered performance pieces - we’ll get somebody in for that down the line.
    A note on the signal routing for the Boss RC-10R…
    The RC-10R has stereo ins and outs. You can configure the outputs in other ways too. For this show we had the guitar loop (output A) going to the guitar amps in our studio, while the rhythm pattern (output B) were sent to a full-range powered PA speaker… because they sound pretty pants into a guitar amp to be honest. To see the full signal routing options head to Boss’s site and ingest: www.boss.info/...
    TheGigRig Humdinger is there because we were getting a ground loop issue with the RC10-R’s rhythm track into the EV powered PA speaker.
    Enjoy the episode!
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    Interesting bits and go-to sections…
    - Oh no! This won’t encourage anyone into looping: 00:17
    - What we’re doing today: 3:25
    - What do you use looping for? 6:08
    - Looper pedals in general: 8:00
    - MXR Clone Looper: 8:45
    - How to set up a basic loop: 9:08
    - Problems with rhythm? 11:10
    - Make the first one simple: 12:40
    - Don’t go too slow: 14:25
    - What about a metronome? 15:55
    - Half speed / double speed / reverse? 18:05
    - Let’s make a loop: 22:30
    - Ambient textures? 25:00
    - Boss RC-10R with rhythm section: 26:50
    - Where to put your looper in your signal chain: 35:30
    - …first in line? 35:30
    - …last in line? 38:09
    - Using two loopers together? 40:15
    Guitars in this episode:
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    • Matchless HC-30 with Hughes & Kettner Vintage 212 / Celestion G12M Greenback
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  • @turbomoogle
    @turbomoogle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Should have titled this "Looper: a 45 minute explanation on how to play with yourself"
    Cheers guys.

    • @StarseekerAtlas
      @StarseekerAtlas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like your funny words, Moogle Man.

  • @Joe-mz6dc
    @Joe-mz6dc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    55 years old now. I can only imagine how cool it would have been when I started at 9 years old and watching you guys with all those pedals.

  • @LeeWilliams1977
    @LeeWilliams1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I think it's probably been said by now, but I'd also recommend playing a bar or two before you start recording, especially with chords as you actually want any notes ringing to come in as you start.

  • @alexanderkernoghan4385
    @alexanderkernoghan4385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    When I have taught this to other guitar players I find it is helpful if they do a slightly longer loop when they start. If the loop they are aiming for was too short (1 or 2 bars) I found they were panicking about pressing the button on the looper and couldn't concentrate on being in time! If they did a loop of 4 or 8 bars they could relax into what they were playing and hit the looper in time without difficulty.
    Great video guys.... please never say that your videos aren't for advanced players there is always great inforrmation to be gleaned for even the most experienced, such is the quality of your content. Keep it up.

  • @MarkPritchardGuitar
    @MarkPritchardGuitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I still think someone should bring out a looper called Groundhog Day............sorry.

    • @jonlohrenz5446
      @jonlohrenz5446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mark Pritchard I’ve always thought there should be a “River City Treble Booster”.

    • @noisecode5867
      @noisecode5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I see a whole line of Groundhog day inspired pedals. The "Dont drive angry" fuzz. The "PHILL phill" delay for the two Phills, Connors and Punxutawney. The "Doozy" chorus, "Watch that first step." The "Ned Ryerson" noise gate as a bit of an insurance policy. The "Dont Forget Your Booties" boost. I could do this all day!

    • @larrystoltenberg8361
      @larrystoltenberg8361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonlohrenz5446, or "River City Trouble Booster." My hometown is River City (Mason City), IA.

    • @lamech006
      @lamech006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It only plays “I Got You Babe.”

    • @PedalExperiments
      @PedalExperiments 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or a delay/looper called the "Groundhog Delay"?

  • @jonprudhomme7694
    @jonprudhomme7694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I often put a looper at the start of my chain when testing another pedal.
    Record some basic loop, and then I play with the knobs of the pedal I am exploring to see the effect.
    We can't all have a second pair of hands to play while we fiddle with stuff!

    • @geekinthegarden3927
      @geekinthegarden3927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also helps with comparing results if the input is the same for every tweak or pedal.

    • @alexleech4490
      @alexleech4490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also... if you're A/B-ing pedals to test them, having a loop (= the EXACT SAME thing every time) is a god-send

  • @jmanson3310
    @jmanson3310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This so cool... I have literally been playing harmony to myself all evening on my new Boss RC10R and then I thought what's on the tube. This! Awsome.

  • @darthstrat5057
    @darthstrat5057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I normally put mine at the end but I have put a looper at the front of my pedal chain to shape my sound to a certain riff rather than playing the riff, bending down and changing some settings and then replaying the riff. Great vid guys.

  • @blues61
    @blues61 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love using a looper as part of learning to scales and soloing. That said, laying down a chord progression in a loop is also making my rhythm playing better and I'm even noticing things that need improvement in my basic strumming technique. One tip for bedroom players - adding a pedal topper to the stomp switch makes it so much easier to hit in bare feet/socks. :-)

  • @marinotomas
    @marinotomas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have just been a dad and this last month has been many hours on the couch feeding my son and making him sleep. In that silence of my home and those endless hours with my little one in arms TPS has been the ideal company: I have seen all the episodes and learned hell of a lot. You guys never cease to amaze me with the quality of the content you produce every week. Thanks for everything.

    • @Tomsdrawings
      @Tomsdrawings 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tomás Marino congratulations CRD (=cool rocking daddy)! All the best to you.

    • @Crosshatch1212
      @Crosshatch1212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You not still a dad dnt say you looped on that too ,lol
      Goodluck with the fam bro mini budding jimie hendrix picking up on those sound vibes .

  • @sph33_
    @sph33_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite person who does looping is KNOBs. I just picked up a CBA blooper and it is something else.

  • @EricMooreGuitar
    @EricMooreGuitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just picked up the Digitech Trio+ and I LOVE looping and playing “with the band”. I think a looper is an essential practice tool.

    • @dhod900
      @dhod900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eric Moore I’m on day three of ownership myself, really enjoying it so far.

    • @randomstuff4176
      @randomstuff4176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love the Trio+ myself. You have to be accurate with the timing of the initial loop though as you are establishing the timing and chord changes (which are used by the inbuilt drums and bass). I found playing simple chords with perfect timing on the first pass is the way to go, as it doesn't record your guitar on the first "loop/pass". Then on the second pass (first overdub) you play the rythm guitar you actually want.
      I have this and a Boss looper as the boss doesn't require you to be accurate with timing and records your guitar on the first pass. ie. The Boss is much easier to use .. and the Trio teaches you how to play properly :)

  • @kyuseok93
    @kyuseok93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One utility for placing the looper at the beginning of your signal chain is for tweaking your gain stack. Create a simple loop of your clean guitar signal (playing soft -> loud), and then you can sit down and mess around with your gain stack without having to back and forth.

  • @patrickfitzgerald2861
    @patrickfitzgerald2861 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And before you know it a whole day has flown by, and you've somehow finished your first post-rock album!

  • @justinak517
    @justinak517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Best way I’ve found to get your loop timing spot on is to use a drum beat on your phone while you lay down the first loop, works every time.

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or use the inbuilt drums on the looper (if it has that feature) then take them out (if it has that feature).

    • @revenant235
      @revenant235 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Great idea

    • @grahamkelly8299
      @grahamkelly8299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you do live? I guess you could find a way you putting your phone through your in ears

    • @justinak517
      @justinak517 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      graham kelly I don’t use a looper live, just for practice and learning at home.

    • @dahliafiend
      @dahliafiend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grahamkelly8299 a lot of bands now have a click in the drummers in-ear monitors.

  • @TheHowardSinclair
    @TheHowardSinclair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh man, now I need a looper, and it'll have to have a reverse function. I could spend hours with that thing, especially with my Neunaber Immerse. The way you used it as a creative tool to create soundscapes was inspirational. Having previously used Cubase to "flip" a guitar line to get that reverse sound but this makes it possible ahead of the recording process. Great show as always guys, but this really connected with me as a creative idea.

  • @WayneMemphisMojo
    @WayneMemphisMojo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly I think this type of video is good for us experienced "looper users" because sometimes a refresher is a good thing. Over time I sometimes forget things & maybe there is a chance I could have missed something. As always I appreciate your work in bringing us the pedal videos we need.

  • @BollocksUtwat
    @BollocksUtwat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The intro to this video was basically a 2 man version of my first hour with my new looper acquired at christmas, including the obligatory reverse guitar solo. I actually stumbled into playing a surprisingly good melody just by playing through the loop on reverse overdub and was basically counter harmonizing with myself and then in reverse sounds like 2 guitars stacked like I'm some kind of melodic genius ghost writing for Frusciante's solo albums. Accidents are the best musical ideas ever! Loopers make for fun if unreproducible accidents.

  • @nsiepmann
    @nsiepmann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been looking forward to this episode! I'm in the early stages of my looping journey, with the Boss RC-30, and the thing I've been having trouble with is, if you're doing it as part of a song, how to make it not sound like the bottom's dropped out of the song when you stop the looper... I'm considering getting a TC HOF 2 to put next to it on the board (after it in the signal chain) so I can cover the transition from loopy bit to non-loopy bit with some MASH footswitch action...
    Also, other thing you can do with two loopers: one-person performance of Steve Reich's 'Clapping Music'! Get a loop going of the pattern on the first looper, then start the second looper on the beat and end it one eighth note shy of the end of the pattern, then leave it to work its way back round into sync :D

    • @nsiepmann
      @nsiepmann 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      (Although slightly more seriously, 'Piano Phase' is probably a better candidate, since you don't need to be as incredibly precise with the timing of the second looper...)

    • @casenowie
      @casenowie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      'Frame by frame' by King Crimson is another song where 2 guitars play the same pattern and 1 guitar (Fripp) skips a note. I'm gonna try that.

  • @craigsi16
    @craigsi16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If you record a blank loop, then swell in a chord and keep the sustaining over multiple overdubs, then you won't get the glitch every time the loop resets

  • @aaronpotterguitar
    @aaronpotterguitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yay the jazzmater is back!!

  • @vincet68
    @vincet68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    One tip for beginners - if you place your looper after delay/reverb, play the loop through before hitting record, so that the delay/reverb tails record on the first beat. Otherwise, the loop will chop at the repeat point when it’s playing back.

    • @fgonzalez90
      @fgonzalez90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, if your looper can do *record-overdub-playback* (default mode in Boss loopers), you can instantly record delay/reverb licks with confidence, by using the overdub mode in order to record the delay/reverb tails. It's not as widely common as the former tip, but it also works! ✌

  • @thekramdens
    @thekramdens 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you're having issues with timing, try playing with a rhythmic delay pattern to lock in your tempo...Also try to start your loop in between notes, of course you'll need to end it in the same spot
    If using a two amp setup, I suggest having the looper feed only one amp. Especially if your amps don't have a lot of headroom.

  • @giantessmaria
    @giantessmaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My girlfriend just bought me the Boss rc 300 loop station....because she saw a person doing a performance with it....and i'm like holy sh*t, you just made me head of my own band...i'm still learning about all the neat stuff it can do...yes please, by all means, have one of those pro loop performers you mentioned please...i think that would make for a great show! thanks guys, great stuff...happy new year!

    • @Revitandgo
      @Revitandgo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      raj lippy sounds like she’s your soon to be wife 😆😂

    • @giantessmaria
      @giantessmaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Revitandgo better than a wife my friend. we have now been happily unmarried for 37 years! no need to rush things ;)

  • @nephilymbass1
    @nephilymbass1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My helpful trick for looping is lay down a clean part with delay pedal first. use the repeats of the delay as a sort of musical metronome to get your timing together for the overdubs

  • @EricW6800
    @EricW6800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the RC10R!!, was my Christmas present for myself 😄you are actually the first who explains the right sequence of using the pedal with drums 👍

  • @sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678
    @sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    yes! KT Tunstall on the show please!!

    • @sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678
      @sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      also, I have frustrated myself with a looper numerous times, because I wanted to have a chord change to play over, but then got stuck using the thing to record the loop because I kept messing it up.
      I guess only Wayne Krantz can record a loop and have it sounding in the pocket af XD

    • @stevenblakeakahashburns
      @stevenblakeakahashburns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yip
      And she can explain the wee bastard pedal,
      Akai headrush

    • @stuartbowlerwell2845
      @stuartbowlerwell2845 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Going to see her on 18th Jan!

  • @kevkev00333
    @kevkev00333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You guys should REAAALLLY get Nick Reinhart in from Tera Melos or the YT channel Pedals&Effects.
    He is like a looping wizard in his own totally unique way.

  • @VisualGuy
    @VisualGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks as always guys. You guys inspire me to keep my channel growing and also helping me improve it all the time!

  • @michaeld1378
    @michaeld1378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much for this episode. There are many others I'd rather watch (like vintage guitars.. ), but this one made me get up and go use my neglected ditto for nearly 3 hours. This makes the episode a top ten for me.

  • @groundzerro
    @groundzerro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just a note here one of the things I like about you guys is the fact you don't get too heady, just Mick and Dan. Experimentation and learning a main stream. Tonal quality a driven factor, making this a go to stream for anyone at any level. Mick stay comfortable with yourself no expectations, stay away from politics both political and business, I think it weighs heavy on you. Stay as honest as you can with yourselves it resonates in your shows. Wishing you guys the best for the new year. :)

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Coree. Business and politics weighs heavy on everybody I hope, because it’s what causes the most pain against where decent human aspiration sits. Comrades together for the same purpose, instead of enemies pitched against one another. Business and politics needs the latter. Hey ho.

    • @groundzerro
      @groundzerro 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatPedalShow :)

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I finally got reunited with my pedals after everything being in storage for 7 months.
    Moving into my new place I got my music stuff in a little at a time.
    Brilliant timing for your Looper show.
    Got me motivated. That and some tips from Marty Music.
    Had to relearn the RC-3 operations; been so long I'd forgotten.
    Stuck a little 4 bar funk groove in it (2 parts) and Meant to jam lead all over it.
    Instead I stumbled upon a load of double stop stuff and sliding broken chords that I'd not put together before.
    Okay AND a bit of mindless lead too …
    As a lifelong bass player I'm really enjoying my discoveries in the realm of the thin string guitar.
    Looping is So immediate in giving you something to play against whether writing, practising or just noodling.
    How did we ever manage before without them ?
    Oh! I remember. Lot's of scratched records from fumbling to get the needle back at the right place in the track ….
    Thanks guys

  • @matabercrombie3816
    @matabercrombie3816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22:00 to 23:25 is probably my favorite spontaneous moment of music I've seen on the show. Sounded like the bridge of an epic Pink Floyd jam.

  • @crissmith2911
    @crissmith2911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had a DigiTech Trio+ for a while now and have been frustrated with the inability to maintain a clean rhythm backing loop after stomping on OD pedals for lead tones to play over the top. I cannot believe I never thought of putting the damn thing at the END of the chain! So simple and yet learned so much. Thanks guys!
    To be fair, the Trio+ input jack says "Guitar In." Must... plug... guitar... in... here....

    • @mr501mc
      @mr501mc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cris, 1st off thanks for the laugh. Second I had the same trouble with my 1st pedal. I was sure it was broke

  • @EDKguy
    @EDKguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I play something awesome into my looper and it never seems that good when I hear it back... I may have to bin it like I did with my mirrors😅

    • @larrystoltenberg8361
      @larrystoltenberg8361 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep practicing with it!

    • @Joe-mz6dc
      @Joe-mz6dc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I believe he was making a joke. What he is saying is that his playing is bad, and he doesn't realize it until he hears it back in the looper. (Which is most likely not true, he is probably very good). Just a little humour.

  • @justinp2033
    @justinp2033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The main reason I bought my Alter Ego was to have a looper without wasting limited space on my pedal board. I love using it for practice but I always wind up playing the same type of thing. Thanks for the tips guys, and as always, great show.

  • @noisecode5867
    @noisecode5867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great show guys! I have to disagree with your advice about not playing the first note of the next bar when finishing a loop. I find that if you know you are about to stop playing, your brain naturally inserts space at the end of what you are playing and there will always be that tiny space at the end of your loop throwing the timing off the whole thing. the method that works best for me is to play a bar, hit the loop button the second time around to record letting your foot come down in unison with your pick hand on the first note, play the loop, then hit the loop button again as you play the first note of the next bar to punch out letting your foot come down in unison with your hand on the first note of the next bar again. I get perfectly timed loops this way. maybe not for everybody but worth a try. Thanks as always for all you do!!

  • @paulcowart3174
    @paulcowart3174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never had a looper but am seriously considering getting one #1 I'm in a creative slump #2 will help me play more #3 good for writing #4 Why the heck not and all the above lol 😁 Now to choose which one Thanks guys Perfect timing for this episode

  • @krum41
    @krum41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been looping since the '80's so happy that you touched on the loose and random kickback of using these pedals in an open creative way great primer!

  • @typedeaf
    @typedeaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sold me on the RC10R as a practice device. Planned on starting with the Ditto, but the RC10 with drums seems like so much more fun at home.

  • @moritzpetersen7882
    @moritzpetersen7882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was in the market for an acoustic amplifier I recorded a few soundbites of my J-45/LR Baggs Lyric combination into the small ditto looper and just took the looper to the guitar store. I then just plugged the looper into those amps I was interested in to hear exactly my guitar through a variety of amplifiers.

  • @fishypaw
    @fishypaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Looper pedals are great
    Looper pedals are great
    Looper pedals are great
    Looper pedals are great
    ...
    taerg era sladep repooL
    taerg era sladep repooL
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    taerg era sladep repooL

    • @davidk.8608
      @davidk.8608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hate loopers
      I hate looper
      I hate loope
      I hate loop

    • @fishypaw
      @fishypaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidk.8608 I ate (fruit) loops

    • @LEgoiste
      @LEgoiste 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ha
      Ha Ha
      Ha Ha Ha
      Ha Ha Ha Ha
      Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...........
      Ah!
      Ahh!!
      Ahhh!!
      Ahhhh!!!!
      Ahhhhh!!!!!!!!!

    • @bahgheera
      @bahgheera 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fishypaw man it's called FL Studio!!

  • @Chord_The_Seeker
    @Chord_The_Seeker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the funniest comments I’ve seen on TH-cam was in a thread where people were talking about the worst pedals they’ve ever heard. A guy said that a looper was the worst because it kept playing back the crap he played over and over. Same here, man. Same here.

    • @pd4165
      @pd4165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, man.

  • @PaulBesselleMusic
    @PaulBesselleMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first looper was the DOD DFX94. It blew my mind back in the early 90s as it had 4 seconds of loop time. How far we've come. X

  • @RickRomanelli
    @RickRomanelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I accompany my wife's Yoga classes with loopers, iPads, acoustic guitars and TELECASTERS! Still, I'm sure there is value for me in this video.

  • @ludlow555
    @ludlow555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dan & Mick get stoned and do what we all do when we first get a looper.

    • @its_just_berk
      @its_just_berk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ive never looped before. But after watching this, i know exactly what you mean.

    • @seanc.5310
      @seanc.5310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      truth

  • @fishypaw
    @fishypaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a Boss RC-300 a while ago, and it's the best pedal I've bought so far for helping me improve my playing and rhythm. It has a basic drum machine built in, so it really helps with my timing. Plus the ability to record things on the fly, build up tracks and then actually listen to myself playing, has helped my guitar playing so much. If someone was to ask me "what should my first guitar pedal be?", I'd strongly advise consider buying a looper. It's such a great tool.
    P.S. I can also download backing tracks to it, from Boss or other sources, which are great to jam along to and practice lead. :)

  • @robin4616
    @robin4616 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the show guys. Amazing as always.
    Would love to see a show on your musical influences/favorite albums and your approach on how to recreate these sounds !

  • @CharcoaI
    @CharcoaI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You guys have to check out the band 'Minus the Bear' (particularly the album: Planet of Ice).
    Looper/DL4 mastery

    • @CharcoaI
      @CharcoaI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      (And/or if you want to see it in action; check out the 'rig rundown' from 6 years ago where Dave Knudson shows off his board and technique)

    • @andy_watt
      @andy_watt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dave is the looping master. That rig run down is epic

  • @vincet68
    @vincet68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We take it for granted, but tapping/stomping foot while playing is really important to embed time in your playing - I really began to focus on this when I took myself back to school after 30+ years via Paul Gilbert’s Artistworks course (he makes a BIG deal about it). One of the side benefits of that is it also tightens up the stomp point of looping. Now that many more players are sitting playing at home, the tap/stomp has become less “automatic”.

  • @domukaz
    @domukaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching the end of this video about Australia's problems at the beginning of 2020 has such dramatic irony now. Great show!

  • @DRChevalier
    @DRChevalier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much guys. I have the small Ditto and have determined that my start stop timing sucks. Start at the beginning end at the beginning was an ah ha moment. I bought the RC 10 as a machine to play along with predominantly and clearly need to spend more time with the full demo, the manual and several hours to start building my own practice tracks to play over. I still have a lot of work to do but this episode illuminated a lot of former questions.

  • @brianrollins7275
    @brianrollins7275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great introduction to looping for beginners. Thanks for doing what you do. It’s very gracious of you both to share your knowledge and expertise. Much appreciated!
    I recently sold my Boss RC-5 and bought a simple ditto looper. I play with headphones on most of the time and I just didn’t like what the Boss at the end did to my tone. Dynamics and pick attack were not the same. Now I use the ditto and it’s true bypass doesn’t change my tone. I’m not saying Boss pedals are bad but I definitely feel the difference. I run a fuzz and wah first then I use a buffer with low output impedance at 100 ohm, then I have 6 all true bypass pedals going into the amp. Just a home player but still a tone chaser and to my ears it’s the best setup for me at this time. The buffer pedal with 1m ohm input impedance and 100 ohm output impedance was a game changer in my setup. Only using a 10ft cable from guitar to first pedal and 6ft cable from last pedal to amp so 1 buffer is perfect. If you have more than 50 feet of cable another buffer before the amp would drive a nice clean signal back to the amp. Just my 2 cents. YMMV
    Whatever you do just try to have fun while your learning.
    Take care folks

  • @daves9492
    @daves9492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice introductory episode, but I'm now looking forward to seeing who you can get in and what you can do for a more advanced episode! Maybe there's a tie-in with the new Chase Bliss thing?

  • @krystledawne
    @krystledawne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve got the Ditto x2, and I’m excited to go practice using it again. Thanks for the inspiration guys!

  • @shredb4dead
    @shredb4dead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always practice with my Boss RC-3 looper. I set a drum beat on it (my metronome), bass line with guitar in neck position, rhythm guitar part play along, ambient noises added then go off with lead over it all. With a little practice It doesn't take long at all to get the timing down. It's the only way to practice.

  • @TheWhollymoly
    @TheWhollymoly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I started back in the Neolithic Period, my first metronome was a little wind-up mechanical one and I wore it out. Then I moved on to the electrical ones, with an electric motor inside that controlled some sort of beater (looked like the ball end of a bass guitar string) that hit against the inside of the plastic box to make the sound. I burned out the motor on more than one of those. Next I moved onto one of the small, battery-operated digital metronomes. I had one for probably 6-8 years and, yes, I wore that out, too. All of which is to say: one can be born with some innate skill at time-keeping, but regardless how much or how little innate skill one has, it takes thousands of hours to be able to play confidently and expressively in time. Some of my favorite musician friends have something that we call "perfect tick", except this is learned, not innate. Basically, if I tell them to give me a tempo--let's say 144 bpm--they can give it to me, and I can check it with a metronome and it'll be pretty much spot on. I can do this with a few of the more commonly used analog metronome markings. Good time is essential to all pop and jazz musics, and this becomes no more apparent than when a guitar player buys a looper pedal and begins experimenting with it. It is the modern, digital equivalent of the old axiom "The tape never lies."

  • @bleeknoir
    @bleeknoir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooh! New MXR looper does the octave up Nels Cline thing??!! Well they just stole the looper market! Thanks for another amazing show. All the best wishes for the new year you fine gents.

  • @twat75
    @twat75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Pretty sure a "Clear Your Loops, People" shirt would sell.

  • @elonmush4793
    @elonmush4793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your first pedal purchase should be a looper! It's a great practise tool and lots of fun!

  • @DanyRivard
    @DanyRivard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some time ago you made me know the Looper and I really appreciate it.
    I'm now addict to the Looper. I can no longer live without my Ditto!!!

  • @scot-combs
    @scot-combs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking forward to this. Right now I only use my looper to develop solo's.

  • @Adventuresingearland
    @Adventuresingearland 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Gents and Lady. Happy New year. The content remains vibrant, hugely enjoyable and vital; hopefully sufficiently viral to garner you a few quid to boot.
    Keep doing good shows, OK?

  • @peters6589
    @peters6589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys have a great show...very detailed and fun. I've learned a lot about the right way to use pedals from you guys.
    Keep up the great work. Much respect.

  • @GuyNarnarian
    @GuyNarnarian 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think Loopers are the ultimate tool for the "bedroom guitarist". It is the one pedal that gives you back exactly what you give it. I know this video is old but I was surprised at how much I liked the MXR. Kinda wish you showed more of the R-1 or Ditto, but after this I actually think the one to get is the the RC-10R if you are really going to make the looper a part of your playing. They are kind of instruments in of themselves, especially using two like they did at the end.

  • @stevekirby7333
    @stevekirby7333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some years ago I knew a duo where the woman sang and the guy played guitar. He would set up loops with something he had and then solo over them. They wanted to do a larger gig so I agreed to go and play drums for them. He had the looper level fairly low so he could play solos at his normal level. Problem was he wasn't very good stopping and starting the loops. It didn't bother him blowing over them by himself, but trying to play a beat over something buried under his soloing that had glitches every 2 or 4 bars was brutal. I only did the one gig needless to say. ;-)
    After watching Danish Pete and Mark Lettieri I got a Ditto Mini. Great fun for practicing and fooling around.

  • @W4rpth0rn
    @W4rpth0rn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got a Boss RC3 for my birthday, perfect timing as always chaps!

  • @jegl1012
    @jegl1012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the dynamic duo of tone

  • @RICKYBUBSJULIAN
    @RICKYBUBSJULIAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for doing an episode I requested ages ago :)
    Just about to start watching it.
    Edit: I just realized that having your looper at the beginning of your chain is an amazing way to learn how your other pedals work together and react when you change settings... COOL!

  • @drutgat2
    @drutgat2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this.
    There are a few things that you did not mention which might be useful for those new to loopers to know:
    1. Some loopers have an auto record setting, which means that you do not have to depress a footswitch in order to start the first loop
    2. It might be good to talk about how loopers deal with the less common time signatures (e.g., 7 beats to the bar); some loopers have settings for these less common time signatures
    3. The second-hand market can be a good way to find relatively sophisticated loopers at affordable prices
    4. Storage - instead of having to clear one's loops/overdubs, some loopers have huge memories which can literally accommodate h;ours of recordings, and they also have the ability to name and/or number tracks

  • @mushkamusic
    @mushkamusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, I used to use a looper when I was doing solo acoustic gigs as an artist on the AliveNetwork agent roster to flesh out the sound, provide a backing for soloing, and with an additional mic to record percussion too. I got pretty darned sick of the gigs and was sooo very happy to ditch them altogether a few years ago. I'm sure Dan can sympathise ;)

  • @ginoames
    @ginoames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time to break my looper out again. Very inspiring episode guys. Thank you!

  • @scottgrimes2405
    @scottgrimes2405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like the idea of the looper at the start of the chain, freeing you to turn effects on and off to dial in a new sound quite easily. Hadn’t thought of that yet. Cheers! Love the show here in Canada btw!

  • @TheRealZookness
    @TheRealZookness 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tash Sultana is another incredible looper.

    • @MrTDembinski
      @MrTDembinski 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shane Gochenouer yeah man, she’s fantastic

  • @jasonb1846
    @jasonb1846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For ambient looping (like at 25:00), record a silent loop for 8-10 seconds first. Then it eliminates that “record skipping” harshness when the loop restarts.

  • @jamesdalgleish9389
    @jamesdalgleish9389 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best looper instructional video ever? Thanks guys 🎸

  • @jcavender00
    @jcavender00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like to load a drum beat onto my phone and then play it into the pickups on my guitar so that it's in the looper :) Then i can have a beat to layer some rhythm parts over. Fun for practice/noodling times!

  • @BdotRASS
    @BdotRASS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looper between delay and reverb is my personal favourite.

  • @TheBigH1975
    @TheBigH1975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an RC3. I like to use the built in drum tracks for the base loop and use the tap tempo, then it's all in time when I start putting the guitar over the top.

  • @nolarocks
    @nolarocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan's first overdub made the loop at the beginning of the vid sound incredible!! Seemed to impress the room. Could have gone in a traditional direction from there and not made the idea a throw away. Sounded like a keeper to me.

  • @GregoryStoner
    @GregoryStoner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic inspiration, on the same day my pre-order Boss RC-10R show up. It was Danish Pete looping convinced me it was time run down this rabbit hole,

  • @fatfro1
    @fatfro1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could also place your looper in the middle and place pedals that you don't want affecting the sound before the looper and place pedals that you would like the looper to be affected by after it.

  • @niaralosusa
    @niaralosusa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great show!
    I like splitting the signal path with one path to amp A with pedals, and one path with looper (effects after) to amp B. Then I can create a loop and add effects as needed, and switch to the other path to play leads or add texture. Great fun!

  • @aleach1985
    @aleach1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great timing with this episode..... Received my first looper for Christmas and been having a lot of fun

  • @geirbyre
    @geirbyre 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi D&M! If you talk about looping you NEED to talk to Bernhoft (Jarle Bernhoft). He is just one of the best!❤️

  • @samuelxavier2473
    @samuelxavier2473 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I played for years in a band that used drum machines. That really sharpens up your timing.

  • @ptrisonic
    @ptrisonic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good primer - just as I was looking at the MXR.................. I know I'm always late to the party; I just tripped over a new favorite overdrive (actually two) the MXR "Sugar Drive" and the Keeley "Sweet Spot" for low gain applications. Very good! Best, Pete.

  • @MrWhit30
    @MrWhit30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a Jam Man Solo, which proved to be way too complicated for my simple brain and simple needs for practice and trying out ideas. Shoulda got a Ditto and saved my cash. Struggled a bit about where to place it in a wet/dry set up. After experimenting I decided I like it best at the end of the dry section, just before the wet split.

  • @Xenious
    @Xenious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having neglected TPS for a few episodes I'm really loving the sound of that Jazzmaster!

  • @chr15tree
    @chr15tree 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sees Dan's and Nick's face around 2:50 and realises this is going to be a good one!!!

  • @lukewarren7857
    @lukewarren7857 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank's I been wondering in the front of chain or rear
    It was cool you made a show

  • @stoneysdead689
    @stoneysdead689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One tip I have for ppl who have trouble hitting the button on time- like me, play long loops. The truth is, I'm not trying to become a looper that performs live using a loop pedal- I'm just practicing and trying to develop ideas. So- if need be, I'll play the whole song and then go back dub a lead line over it. You don't have to get a bar to loop perfectly- it's a good exercise for improving timing and it's fun but, it's not necessary if you're just practicing or trying to develop an idea into a song. I would recommend getting a looper with some beats stored in it and the ability to change the tempo and all- that really helps. Having a drum beat to keep you honest makes your timing much better and improves your playing tremendously. Without it, you may think you're in time and consistent- but chances are, you're wrong.

  • @bigthewig9624
    @bigthewig9624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use a mooer drummer pedal into a digitec jamman solo, record 12 bars of drums them jam over putting bass and guitar parts down, great for practice.

  • @stevieboy444
    @stevieboy444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never mind the conductor, the bassist, the drummer or your own sense of rhythm....the dude that REALLY knows where the one is....is the looper!

  • @StevenHadfield
    @StevenHadfield 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Boss RC3 is my current looper. Having a save function is a godsend, great as a notepad, so no more riffs lost to the ether.

  • @tomking4013
    @tomking4013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi guys, Bill Ruppert shows some other excellent tricks with the electro harmonix looper, one that I now use, similar to an ambient thing; create a loop about a second long, but don’t play anything, then engage overdub and fade in chords to create a big pad sound. Great for scale practice and hearing differences in modal scales.

  • @smellytele9629
    @smellytele9629 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOL!! It's nice to know I'm not the only player who is looper challenged. It looked like you guys were having a lot of fun. Thanks for the vid!

  • @colingordon8655
    @colingordon8655 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Boss is like the Digitech Trio+. Had one, sold it, steep learning curve - i'm learning guitar, not looper pedals! TC Ditto all the way! I try to do a muted drum pattern on the first take then play chords etc after that. Great show, btw.

  • @petergraham9267
    @petergraham9267 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Desperately trying to figure out how to use a looper in a live band situation with a real drummer / percussionist! Anytime you feel like doing that video, I’m first in line to watch it 😳😎

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have to play to you. You basically can’t play to them.....

  • @BenFentem
    @BenFentem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loving some Micky Magic on the Jazzmaster, really suits you sir!

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Ben. I really like that guitar!

    • @pabcrane
      @pabcrane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThatPedalShow - Mick, did you end up changing the pots?

    • @ThatPedalShow
      @ThatPedalShow  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pabcrane Not yet Paul. I'll probably do it as and when I find some more vintage authentic pickups... i find I never have the tone pot on max on the bridge pickup, but usually do on the neck... so I'm not sure.

    • @ciaranjmurray
      @ciaranjmurray 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThatPedalShow Not really expecting a reply this late on, but I'll try... Have you changed the pots by now, a year later? I find the tonal range of the Jazzmaster as it was designed very useful and uniquely beautiful. You may not, of course!