The hunter snare bomb re procs cast no shadows automatically, add in saints inspiration mod to overflow the magazine and blow your load on bosses and champs. 😄
I was going through my vault the other day and stumbled across my old threat level from scourge it has grave robber which was a terrible perk back in the day and I forgot they kinda massively buffed it recently where it fully reloads on empowered melee hits so my old grave robber trench barrel role is actually really good now I plan on using it next time I need a good shotgun
The origin trait in perfect paradox is so good, that I'd rather use it over imperial, just because it plays so well with trench barrel, so you rarely have to reload; it's just really fun
I spent all my 99 max engrams from defiant last expansion on the imperial decree to get the red border cuz u said to get it. I have been waiting to use it since lol.
Not bad gameplay, wish they would come out with heavy ammo shotguns with trench barrel, hit harder than normal shotgun, maybe slug launchers? (think bastion without the charge time)
@@lazykba lot of the newer frames, like the rocket sidearm, are basically new weapons and adds variety to the game as well as deepening the buildcrafting pool. Hope to see more new frames and other options added to the heavy weapon slot in the near future.
@@lazykb so punching and shooting its different to shooting and punching? i'll be damned, and fs there are vids comparing them, i just wanted to see how its doing rn with the changes and the actual meta and seemed like its a point to mention in this vid if you ask me
@@jlrebor2626 it's not. Melee damage is scaled and compared entirely different from gun damage. The only comparison is just if you have a broken melee build it does more damage and if you don't it doesn't. Comparing trench and 12p is like comparing supers and heavy weapons
@@lazykb while supers and heavy arent directly compared, they are by the dps they can produce, this is not a game of "1 thing does the damage at a time" and even if they get the damage calculations from wildly different sources, if the requirements for doing the rotation are the same, they absolutely can be compared, if i need a build to make a 12p work better than trench, that means i can do a build with trench to optimize it too, which is better in that case? idk how you cant see that if i need to punch and shoot or shoot and punch to make the perk work, they can absolutely be compared, my point was that it feels odd to say this perk is this good or that good without comparing it to a perk that funtions basicaly the absolute same, idc how the games calculates anything, i wana know in which bases one its better than the other and how much i need to push one or the other, dont see what you dont understand
@@nightfuryzero6625 there is no shotgun with both, but I don't see significant value in this since you aren't realistically investing in melee and gun damage at the same time on a build
It depends some on preference but pretty much your prefered reload perk, Threat detector, enh dual loader, grave robber, or overflow perks are all good
John LFG would never disrespect me like this. NEVER.
John Barrel remebers when trench wasnt linited to just three shots
John Barrel my goat
We used to melt gambit bosses with 4 ikelos trench barrel shotys back in forsaken. Good times
The good ole days
The hunter snare bomb re procs cast no shadows automatically, add in saints inspiration mod to overflow the magazine and blow your load on bosses and champs. 😄
@@Cabnr310 lmao that's hilarious honestly
While weakening enemies and potentially giving you Radiant? I gotta try this
I was going through my vault the other day and stumbled across my old threat level from scourge it has grave robber which was a terrible perk back in the day and I forgot they kinda massively buffed it recently where it fully reloads on empowered melee hits so my old grave robber trench barrel role is actually really good now I plan on using it next time I need a good shotgun
Thats actually the most swaggy shotgun ever. Protect this gem
The origin trait in perfect paradox is so good, that I'd rather use it over imperial, just because it plays so well with trench barrel, so you rarely have to reload; it's just really fun
You can also focus Hand in Hand at Banshee some days.
been using grobber trench ikelos this season, on prism warlock w/ incinerator snap. shit absolutely COOKS. big damage dealers in chat.
@@stvlth didn't they do something to Grave robber in the initial TFS balance update?
@@lazykb yeah powered melee hits now proc the full magazine reload which is gaming with any melee that has multiple charges or low cd
@@stvlth oh yeah that's nuts
Trench barrel the goat
best content creator
@@Daniel-eye best commenter
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Another Shotgun Video!!! LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! SHHOOTGUN FOREVERR!!!
Shotguns are back !!!
@@lazykb THEY NEVER LEFT!!!!!! Also someday with recombination is cool.
I spent all my 99 max engrams from defiant last expansion on the imperial decree to get the red border cuz u said to get it. I have been waiting to use it since lol.
@@deep_ak-4728 nah b. It's been good since release!!
Not bad gameplay, wish they would come out with heavy ammo shotguns with trench barrel, hit harder than normal shotgun, maybe slug launchers? (think bastion without the charge time)
@@mondaymeatloaf rocket sidearms have set the precedent for that kind of thing tbh
@@lazykba lot of the newer frames, like the rocket sidearm, are basically new weapons and adds variety to the game as well as deepening the buildcrafting pool. Hope to see more new frames and other options added to the heavy weapon slot in the near future.
John "Trench Barrel" LazyKB LFG
I miss John LFG!!
Trench barrel would still see some use if they didn't remove crown of sorrow from the game
legend of acrius is so good too
@@teod5433 yeah it's awesome
After seeing this video, I also came.
whats your crafted imperial roll?
I use threat detector and Trench and since with a threat stack you reload faster than your fire rate
i waas waiting for a comparison with 12punch
@@jlrebor2626 why? They're literally completely different and are impossible to compare
@@lazykb so punching and shooting its different to shooting and punching? i'll be damned, and fs there are vids comparing them, i just wanted to see how its doing rn with the changes and the actual meta and seemed like its a point to mention in this vid if you ask me
@@jlrebor2626 it's not. Melee damage is scaled and compared entirely different from gun damage. The only comparison is just if you have a broken melee build it does more damage and if you don't it doesn't. Comparing trench and 12p is like comparing supers and heavy weapons
@@lazykb while supers and heavy arent directly compared, they are by the dps they can produce, this is not a game of "1 thing does the damage at a time" and even if they get the damage calculations from wildly different sources, if the requirements for doing the rotation are the same, they absolutely can be compared, if i need a build to make a 12p work better than trench, that means i can do a build with trench to optimize it too, which is better in that case? idk how you cant see that if i need to punch and shoot or shoot and punch to make the perk work, they can absolutely be compared, my point was that it feels odd to say this perk is this good or that good without comparing it to a perk that funtions basicaly the absolute same, idc how the games calculates anything, i wana know in which bases one its better than the other and how much i need to push one or the other, dont see what you dont understand
I heard trench with one two punch cooks
@@nightfuryzero6625 there is no shotgun with both, but I don't see significant value in this since you aren't realistically investing in melee and gun damage at the same time on a build
@@lazykbbastion had one two punch trench barrel and If set up right it actually does some of the highest special ammo dps
Pair trench barrel with what?
It depends some on preference but pretty much your prefered reload perk, Threat detector, enh dual loader, grave robber, or overflow perks are all good
@lazykb ok thank you.